Speaker 1: Appolge production, Golferent Fire with Gollie Electric.
Speaker 2: This is not a how to guide for people wanting
Speaker 2: to get into the industry. I don't want people to
Speaker 2: think that they're going to necessarily learn something here. It's
Speaker 2: more just a fun and interesting take on the industry,
Speaker 2: but also just coming from my point of view. I'm
Speaker 2: sitting down with my producer getting down to the nitty
Speaker 2: gritty of the sex worker industry. People stay in hotels
Speaker 2: for business or for pleasure. Well, in my world it's
Speaker 2: for both. Most of the work that I do is
Speaker 2: facilitated out of hotel rooms all around the country. I
Speaker 2: have platinum membership everywhere I have worked from home before.
Speaker 2: It has its you know, pros and cons, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: The pros being that you're available really at any time.
Speaker 2: If you're home, you can decide to take a booking
Speaker 2: that comes your way. With me, I have to organize accommodation,
Speaker 2: pack a bag, take myself there, check in, get myself ready.
Speaker 2: It's honestly quite a process, so it can be a
Speaker 2: bit tricky. I'm definitely shooting myself in the foot in
Speaker 2: terms of bookings. I have to turn away a lot
Speaker 2: of bookings because it's just not the right time. It's
Speaker 2: nine o'clock at night. I'm in my pajamas, I'm ready, low,
Speaker 2: I don't wait to pajamas. I'm ready for bed, like
Speaker 2: I'm done. But you know, I'm not actually going to
Speaker 2: go get a hotel room at nine o'clock at night
Speaker 2: and check in and go through that whole process. It's
Speaker 2: just it's too much. So, yeah, there are women who
Speaker 2: work from home. That works really well for them. I've
Speaker 2: done it before. It was great. Definitely kept my overheads
Speaker 2: down because my expenses are actually so high. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I enjoy being in hotel rooms. I definitely have ended
Speaker 2: up in a point where the hotel room is getting
Speaker 2: nicer and nicer and nicer because I spend so much
Speaker 2: time in them. I have to be comfortable and they
Speaker 2: have to be a little bit bougie, and it just
Speaker 2: makes me feel a little bit better about myself and
Speaker 2: I get cute lighting and fun mini bars. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: in hotels twenty four to seven. I do tend to
Speaker 2: stick to the same hotels whenever I come into a
Speaker 2: city or a town. I feel really comfortable going to
Speaker 2: the same hotel that I've stayed in before, So I
Speaker 2: tend not to switch it up too much.
Speaker 1: What happens when you check in.
Speaker 2: Checking in can be quite embarrassing at times because people
Speaker 2: checking you in love to ask why you're staying there.
Speaker 2: But generally Sydney Melbourne they don't ask. There's so many
Speaker 2: people in those hotels coming and going, they don't give
Speaker 2: two shits what you're doing. It's the smaller, say, regional towns.
Speaker 2: I've stayed in Newcastle before where the one check in
Speaker 2: desk was right at the lift and I had to
Speaker 2: nod and look at the person behind the front desk
Speaker 2: every time I went and collected a client, and that
Speaker 2: was just horrifying. I had somebody recently they wrote to me.
Speaker 2: I just put questions up on Instagram where people can
Speaker 2: write whatever, and somebody wrote in and said, I work
Speaker 2: for a hotel chain and we know every time a
Speaker 2: sex worker is coming through, and we will often say
Speaker 2: so what brings you into town, just to see what
Speaker 2: kind of response we get. And that for me was
Speaker 2: such a light bulb moment because here I am thinking
Speaker 2: that they just have no idea whatsoever, and knowing that
Speaker 2: they're all clued on and they know single white female
Speaker 2: with a big bag who's come from a couple of
Speaker 2: streets away. She's staying for one night and has no
Speaker 2: good reason why she's staying. Yeah, kind of, I probably
Speaker 2: stand out like I saw thumb. Things are very different
Speaker 2: now I can check in without really any fuss. But
Speaker 2: back a few years ago, when it was illegal in
Speaker 2: some states to work out of a hotel room, say
Speaker 2: in Melbourne Adelaide, there's a few places where you know,
Speaker 2: you're checking into hotel rooms and you're really trying to
Speaker 2: not draw any attention to you because any type of
Speaker 2: trouble with the hotel or the checking in process, or
Speaker 2: them being suspicious or them seeing clients come and go
Speaker 2: could literally get me arrested. So it's very different now. Now, I,
Speaker 2: you know, with my platinum status wherever I go and
Speaker 2: stay and my rewards that I get, it's a very different,
Speaker 2: very different experience. Now I'm not so paranoid in hotel rooms.
Speaker 2: I've had a couple of run ins with hotel staff,
Speaker 2: or they'll give you just a cheeky grin, or you know,
Speaker 2: they just kind of let on that they know what
Speaker 2: is going on, or say, you know, I've had a
Speaker 2: couple of times where I've been with a client very naked,
Speaker 2: and the fire alarms go off. Or there was an
Speaker 2: instance actually on the Gold Coast where there was a
Speaker 2: domestic disagreement going on. I'm going to I don't know
Speaker 2: why I said disagreement. This poor woman in the room
Speaker 2: next door. I'm with client, trying to be all sexy
Speaker 2: and fun and doing my thing, and you could hear
Speaker 2: her being slapped and screamed at and he's yelling that
Speaker 2: he's going to kill her, and I had to call police,
Speaker 2: and then police have to come to the room. And
Speaker 2: here I am with somebody that I've known for twenty minutes.
Speaker 2: We are both in robes. It's two o'clock in the
Speaker 2: afternoon on a Wednesday or something, and the cops are
Speaker 2: just looking at us both just like Okay, well you
Speaker 2: know what's going on here. But yeah, wild stuff happens
Speaker 2: in hotels all the time. I've even had this actually
Speaker 2: really really scared me. So I'm one of those people
Speaker 2: who when I'm going to bed in a hotel room,
Speaker 2: I'll make sure I lock the door. I do the
Speaker 2: little flip things so my door can't be open. Then
Speaker 2: I go to bed. I don't think to lock it
Speaker 2: during the day or I don't think to lock it
Speaker 2: when I've got clients in the afternoon, say, or early evening,
Speaker 2: it doesn't cross my mind to do it. I actually
Speaker 2: had an instance recently here in Brisbane at a hotel
Speaker 2: that I say out quite often, and I was with
Speaker 2: a client. There was music playing, we were laughing, talking.
Speaker 2: I think at that stage I was just in a
Speaker 2: G string. He was completely naked, and you could tell
Speaker 2: that there were people in the room. Like we were
Speaker 2: talking over the top of music. The person who worked
Speaker 2: for the hotel was bringing us in a thank you
Speaker 2: plate for being a platinum member, just a plate of
Speaker 2: fruit and stuff like that. Anyway, I did not hear
Speaker 2: this guy knock, but also he heard that there were
Speaker 2: people in the room. And I just happened to get
Speaker 2: up to walk to the other side of the room.
Speaker 2: I think I was just grabbing water and I turn
Speaker 2: around and in the entryway to the room was standing
Speaker 2: a man holding a plate of fruit. And he just
Speaker 2: looked at me and I am full tits out in
Speaker 2: a G string and I just look at him and freeze.
Speaker 2: He does nothing apart from get the biggest smile on
Speaker 2: his face. He was so thrilled with himself.
Speaker 3: I grabbed my boobs edged backwards like I was moonwalking,
Speaker 3: and I just turned the corner and got out of there,
Speaker 3: and then he.
Speaker 2: Left the room. I was so scared and so freaked out.
Speaker 2: I actually believe that when I checked in, and so
Speaker 2: I checked in maybe for forty five minutes prior, I
Speaker 2: believe that he actually knew who I was. And I
Speaker 2: believe that he came into the room knowing that I
Speaker 2: was in there with a client, and he just let
Speaker 2: himself in because I know people who work for hotels,
Speaker 2: and if you can hear that there's a noise music,
Speaker 2: people talking, you do not enter the room. The fact
Speaker 2: that I didn't hear him knock and he just came in.
Speaker 2: Also the fact that he didn't turn to look away
Speaker 2: or apologize or back out of the room or anything
Speaker 2: like that. He just stood there smiling at me while
Speaker 2: I left, just really really got to me. That really
Speaker 2: freaked me now, so now I just constantly lock the
Speaker 2: door no matter what. Clients still sketch out and get
Speaker 2: very nervous and think that everybody is looking at them
Speaker 2: and watching them. And even last night I had a
Speaker 2: couple of clients where I had to be like, no
Speaker 2: one is watching you, Nobody is thinking that you're weird.
Speaker 2: You look like you look completely normal. People are coming
Speaker 2: and going out of hotels all the time. People are
Speaker 2: sitting on seats, people are having a drink. People, there
Speaker 2: are just people constantly. There's people on phones. People would
Speaker 2: like like, there's just stuff happening constantly. No one's looking
Speaker 2: at you. Nobody's thinking what is this guy doing. Why
Speaker 2: has he got a bag? He looks like he's fresh
Speaker 2: from work. Who's he meeting. Nobody's thinking that. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: it used to be a lot harder, but now it's
Speaker 2: really quite easy. The best thing that you can do
Speaker 2: is just follow the advice that I've given, which is
Speaker 2: you need to come to this floor. You get in
Speaker 2: the lift, don't dawdle, don't hang out in the lobby.
Speaker 2: Head straight to this floor. Usually it's safe for me
Speaker 2: last night, it's okay. Well, if you walk in, go
Speaker 2: straight to the lift, go to the rooftop bar, you
Speaker 2: can get yourself a drink, or you can just take
Speaker 2: a seat. There's generally not a lot of staff, or
Speaker 2: if they are staff, they're just hospitality staff, not actual
Speaker 2: hotel staff. And then I'll come and collect you from there.
Speaker 2: So you just follow the instructions. It's really not that hard.
Speaker 2: The worst thing that you can do is to actually
Speaker 2: go to the front desk and say, oh, hi, I'm
Speaker 2: here to see Carli Electric. Can you let her know
Speaker 2: I'm here? Well, first of all, who's Carli Electric? Secondly,
Speaker 2: they're not going to do that. That draws attention to
Speaker 2: the fact that you're a random man who's just turned
Speaker 2: up Like it's just but you hear about it all
Speaker 2: the time it happens.
Speaker 1: What would be the maximum, Like, say you've got it's
Speaker 1: a super popular night and you've got heaps, how many
Speaker 1: would you limit it to?
Speaker 2: It's as many as the towels will allow. Towels is
Speaker 2: the bane of my existence. I can only see as
Speaker 2: many clients for as many towels that I've got. I
Speaker 2: can't be seeing six clients if I've got two towels.
Speaker 2: They have to shower, but they want like generally they
Speaker 2: want to shower. They've been at work, like, they want
Speaker 2: to shower, they want to be fresh. Plus I make
Speaker 2: them anyway, I would never see anybody without them showering first,
Speaker 2: So I have to have towels for them. It's a
Speaker 2: massive red flag to hotels. If I've just checked in,
Speaker 2: I'm by myself, they've just checked me in. I go
Speaker 2: up and then I call them and say, oh, hi,
Speaker 2: I need more towels. Well, there's only one of you.
Speaker 2: There's two clean towels there that you haven't used yet.
Speaker 2: Why do you need more towels? So they are a
Speaker 2: bit weird with that. That's a massive red flag for them.
Speaker 2: That's a huge well what's going on? So I will
Speaker 2: book a twin bedroom, so rooms that I stay in
Speaker 2: have two beds, so they're thinking that there's four people max.
Speaker 2: That automatically gives me four towels, which is a lot. Really,
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know if anybody else does this,
Speaker 2: but I don't want to waste a towel on me,
Speaker 2: so I never use a towel. You get those kind
Speaker 2: of medium size like hand towels, and they're my towels,
Speaker 2: like that's what I use. I use a towel that's
Speaker 2: like a four size essentially for me. I never use
Speaker 2: a towel ever. It's actually a weird thing that I've
Speaker 2: been doing for so long that when I go and
Speaker 2: stay at a hotel. Recently, I was just on holiday
Speaker 2: and I checked into a hotel and not thinking, I
Speaker 2: went and used the little handtail to dry myself and
Speaker 2: my friend and was like, what are you doing. There's
Speaker 2: a towel for you, And I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I can use a towel. It's ingrained in me. I
Speaker 2: can't waste a towel because if I waste a towel
Speaker 2: on me, that's essentially me losing out on minimum seven
Speaker 2: hundred dollars. So yeah, towels are number one, number one
Speaker 2: generally for me. It's to answer your question for people,
Speaker 2: MAX for me is my sweet spot. It's a really
Speaker 2: good amount of money. I'm not too exhausted, I have
Speaker 2: my mental health in check. I still have time to
Speaker 2: go out, do things, hang out with friends, have good time.
Speaker 1: Do you make the bed between clients?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh, this is the This is a really big secret,
Speaker 2: and this is really exposing what us sex workers actually do.
Speaker 2: So there's a type of guy out there, and it's
Speaker 2: probably fifty percent of my inquiries for a tour is
Speaker 2: they want to be the first client. I think it's
Speaker 2: just they don't like the thought that maybe I've been
Speaker 2: run through or I've been having sex for seven hours
Speaker 2: straight and then they're going to come to me and
Speaker 2: maybe they feel icky whatever anyway, So I essentially no,
Speaker 2: this is going to get me into This is me
Speaker 2: shooting myself in the foot right now. I pretend multiple
Speaker 2: times over that they're the very first client. Ah oh God.
Speaker 2: So I have become proficient at making sure the bed
Speaker 2: is pristine. They even have like little cards or like
Speaker 2: little signs that when you check into a hotel room,
Speaker 2: they're like, hey, you know your bed is very clean
Speaker 2: and it was made by Susan, and so I will
Speaker 2: put that back on the bed. I make the pillows perfect.
Speaker 2: I try and get out every wrinkle from the bed.
Speaker 2: I also remove any rubbish or any sign that anybody
Speaker 2: else has been in the room. And I'm talking like,
Speaker 2: I go over the bed and make sure there is
Speaker 2: absolutely no body hair whatsoever in the shower, nothing, there's
Speaker 2: nothing in the bins, so the bins are empty. You know,
Speaker 2: after I see a client at the end, there's condom wrappers,
Speaker 2: there's use condoms, there's wipes, there's use towels, everything everywhere,
Speaker 2: and so I have to quickly and I'm literally running
Speaker 2: in lingerie usually making sure the whole room is spotless.
Speaker 2: Before I go down and collect the next client, and
Speaker 2: I make out that I've just checked in and that
Speaker 2: they're the first one, and yeah, but I have to
Speaker 2: do that. If I didn't do that, I would be
Speaker 2: missing out on literally thousands of dollars.
Speaker 1: Do you take the condoms off or do they take
Speaker 1: them with them?
Speaker 3: Ah?
Speaker 2: See it this is Oh these are all really good questions.
Speaker 2: And these are all things that we just do not
Speaker 2: talk about out loud. This is all very behind the
Speaker 2: scenes stuff that nobody knows anything about.
Speaker 1: That's what this podcast is.
Speaker 2: I know, And sometimes I'm like, goly, shut up. Okay.
Speaker 2: Condoms are a tricky one. If oh see, this is
Speaker 2: giving away so many secrets. If you seem trustworthy, if
Speaker 2: I think that you look like a nice person, I
Speaker 2: will let you take your own condom off, and I
Speaker 2: will watch you do it. I'll be standing there with wipes.
Speaker 2: I will hand you the wipes and invite you to
Speaker 2: take off your own condom. Generally guys want to do that.
Speaker 2: If I if I just think that I don't know,
Speaker 2: if I'm not getting that kind of like trustworthy vibe
Speaker 2: from someone, or if I don't know, it's maybe later
Speaker 2: at night and I'm a bit tired or something. I
Speaker 2: like to be in control of it. I like to know, Okay,
Speaker 2: I've got the condom, yes, seemen in there, Okay, I'm
Speaker 2: putting it in this bin. I've wrapped it up, and
Speaker 2: I'm kind of in control of the whole situation. I'm
Speaker 2: a little bit more lax if maybe I don't have
Speaker 2: back to back clients and maybe they're a repeat client
Speaker 2: and I trust them. Yeah, I just need to know
Speaker 2: where the condoms are because essentially I do need to
Speaker 2: I don't need any nasty surprises of a future client
Speaker 2: finding a condom that I didn't realize got thrown on
Speaker 2: the floor or flung over here, or there's a wrapper
Speaker 2: over there, like I have to be in control of
Speaker 2: it because yeah, I but also, you know, you don't
Speaker 2: want to walk into I think it's you know when
Speaker 2: you walk when you check into a hotel and you
Speaker 2: walk in and you see someone else's hair on your bed,
Speaker 2: you're kind of like, eh, oh, oh, there are other
Speaker 2: people here. Yeah, of course that's what happens in hotel rooms.
Speaker 2: There are constant people there. So yeah, it's that kind
Speaker 2: of like I don't want to make anybody uncomfortable or
Speaker 2: put themselves, put them in a position where they're a
Speaker 2: little bit grossed out, or anything like that. I want
Speaker 2: them to feel like everything is above board and clean
Speaker 2: and beautiful and well put together, and everything's neat and clean.
Speaker 1: Do you ever have situations where people try and take
Speaker 1: the condom off?
Speaker 2: Yes, stealthy luckily has become illegal in most states. I
Speaker 2: think it's only just about to come in in Queensland,
Speaker 2: but it's already in New South Wales and Victoria that
Speaker 2: it's an illegal act. It's actually classed as rape because
Speaker 2: essentially by them removing the condom, they're essentially removing your consent,
Speaker 2: because you have consented to having sex with a condom
Speaker 2: on and so if it's removed without your knowledge, it's
Speaker 2: class as rape now, which it's nice that it's been
Speaker 2: taken seriously. I have had it recently happen on tour,
Speaker 2: where somebody removed a condom without my knowledge and flung
Speaker 2: it across the room. It was a very eye opening
Speaker 2: experience and definitely ended the booking right there. And then
Speaker 2: I was so mad, I was inconsolable. I was I
Speaker 2: could feel the steam coming out of my ears. I
Speaker 2: was that angry. I just needed to get this dickhead
Speaker 2: out of the room. It does happen because men sometimes
Speaker 2: don't like you know, they give all the excuses. I
Speaker 2: don't like the feeling of condoms. I don't like to
Speaker 2: use them. I've never used them before. It's so imperative
Speaker 2: in my world that condoms are used. Not only does
Speaker 2: it keep me safe, but it also keeps the client safe.
Speaker 2: We don't know each other. There is that knowledge that
Speaker 2: sex workers are the most tested people in Australia. And
Speaker 2: we are all sex workers, content creators, escorts. We are
Speaker 2: constantly tested because this is our livelihood. If we get
Speaker 2: something but also get something really bad, that's lifelong boom.
Speaker 2: We are out of a job, we're out of income,
Speaker 2: Like you know, STDs for us can be career ending.
Speaker 2: So that's where condoms are so important. But also like
Speaker 2: we don't want to random men's babies or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there are guys who are known to take
Speaker 2: off a condom or they will try and pressure sex
Speaker 2: workers into not using condoms. I get so many inquiries
Speaker 2: for natural services and it's pretty frowned upon in my industry.
Speaker 2: It's pretty gross. Yeah, not into it, but the guy
Speaker 2: who did it to me recently. I was actually really
Speaker 2: proud of myself, and I phoned him up the next
Speaker 2: day and got him to fully confess what he had
Speaker 2: done and also give me an apology for it. I
Speaker 2: think I scared him into next week and I would
Speaker 2: highly doubt that he would ever do it, ever do
Speaker 2: it again. I threatened him with police, and yeah, really
Speaker 2: scared the daylights out of him. He was crying to
Speaker 2: me on the phone and just a young guy saying
Speaker 2: that he was caught up in the moment. But it's
Speaker 2: definitely no reason to take it off. Because of this,
Speaker 2: it has actually changed the way that I have sex
Speaker 2: unfortunately in bookings. So there is only one position where
Speaker 2: I'm not in control of the condom, and that's doggie.
Speaker 2: So for every other position, and I can see the condom,
Speaker 2: I can feel it, I know that it's there, I
Speaker 2: can see that it's on properly, and that for me,
Speaker 2: is something that I'm checking twenty four to seven throughout
Speaker 2: the entire booking, Like the client won't even know the
Speaker 2: things that I am doing to make sure that everything
Speaker 2: is running smoothly and how it should be. Doggie is
Speaker 2: the only position that I can be in and of
Speaker 2: course for all of you playing at home who may
Speaker 2: not know what doggie is, I'm on all fours facing
Speaker 2: away from him, and he is behind me, so it's
Speaker 2: up to him to not only insert his penis, but
Speaker 2: he's also in charge of the condom. I can't see it.
Speaker 2: I have no idea what's happening. I can kind of
Speaker 2: reach around and feel for it. But anyway, so what
Speaker 2: had happened was we were having doggie and a couple
Speaker 2: of thrusts, and then he stopped for a couple of seconds.
Speaker 2: I kind of moved my a little bit and he
Speaker 2: went again, and I just he changed the way that
Speaker 2: he was having sex with me. He suddenly had a
Speaker 2: lot of gusto, and I was like, ah, this is
Speaker 2: a red flag. I'm like, I bet you, there's no
Speaker 2: condom on And I just reached and I felt no
Speaker 2: condom instantly, and so I jumped and tried to ask
Speaker 2: where the condom was and it was across the room.
Speaker 2: Oh dear. So yeah, look, I now won't have doggie
Speaker 2: unless it's some you know, existing clients that I know
Speaker 2: and trust. But yeah, it's not something that I do now.
Speaker 2: It's not a service that I offer because I need
Speaker 2: to be in charge of the condom. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, I know that I'm being tested, but you
Speaker 2: know other people being tested regularly. I can't put my
Speaker 2: trust in them.
Speaker 1: Did you shut it down there? And then?
Speaker 2: M yeah, I was livid.
Speaker 1: Was he upset?
Speaker 2: He kept on apologizing and saying that he don't know,
Speaker 2: he doesn't he didn't know how it fell off, and
Speaker 2: that it just fell off somehow. He actually said to
Speaker 2: me before I found it on the floor like five
Speaker 2: feet away, He's like, no, no, it's inside you, it's
Speaker 2: inside you. So I did the epic fishing around while
Speaker 2: he just kind of sat there and yeah, then I
Speaker 2: noticed it five feet away. Like, condoms don't fall off
Speaker 2: during sex. Never. I don't think I've ever had a
Speaker 2: condom and you know, and and I'm gonna say it
Speaker 2: like I've said thousands of clients over my six seven years,
Speaker 2: I've never had a condom fall off. They don't fall off.
Speaker 2: I make sure so my condom sizes are so varied,
Speaker 2: and I make sure I look at what size somebody's
Speaker 2: dick is, and I make sure that I'm putting on
Speaker 2: the right size condom because they should never fall off.
Speaker 2: If anything, they're a little bit tight. So yeah, I've
Speaker 2: never had one fall off. So yeah, he was out
Speaker 2: of there and a heartbeat, in an absolute heartbeat. I
Speaker 2: was so mad.
Speaker 1: Did you want to call the police?
Speaker 2: I actually called the police, Yeah, I did, so the
Speaker 2: police were so quick to respond. They took it really seriously.
Speaker 2: I kind of thought that there's something about sex crimes.
Speaker 2: We know the rate of a sex crime actually getting
Speaker 2: to court is super low, and then actually getting a
Speaker 2: guilty verdict I think is only seven percent of cases
Speaker 2: make it to court. That's pretty pitiful. I didn't think
Speaker 2: they'd take me seriously. I didn't even think they'd know
Speaker 2: what stealthy was. They turned up within an hour. They
Speaker 2: took full evidence from the room. They bagged everything up,
Speaker 2: the condom and everything was just still there. They took
Speaker 2: my underwear, they took full statements, and took it very seriously.
Speaker 2: The downside to this was that I had to go
Speaker 2: have a rape kit. So by the time it was
Speaker 2: about three or four o'clock in the morning, I'm in
Speaker 2: hospital having a rape kit done, and it's the first
Speaker 2: time I've ever had a rape kit. To be honest,
Speaker 2: as a massive Laura Order SVU fan and I am
Speaker 2: so deep in SVU. I have just binge watched like
Speaker 2: twenty four seasons over the last It's taken me about
Speaker 2: eight months. I reckon. I put it on to fall
Speaker 2: asleep too, Like I'm so invested in Laura Order. So
Speaker 2: everything that was happening, I was kind of like, wait, no,
Speaker 2: I need to preserve this, and I can't shower and
Speaker 2: I can't do this, and I'm like I couldn't even
Speaker 2: go the toilet. I didn't want to go the toilet.
Speaker 2: I you know, I preserved the crime scene and I
Speaker 2: was ready. I was fully ready. I was actually so
Speaker 2: interested and when they were there, I asked so many
Speaker 2: questions and I was actually like, this is fascinating, okay.
Speaker 2: But the downside was the rape kit. That was such
Speaker 2: a not nice experience.
Speaker 1: Do you have to do?
Speaker 2: It wasn't until the hospital and having to do the
Speaker 2: rape kit where they went over every single little bruise
Speaker 2: on my body, every single little mark. I had to
Speaker 2: explain all the people that I had had sex with
Speaker 2: in the last week, and oh my lord, that was
Speaker 2: that was a what that was?
Speaker 1: Ah?
Speaker 2: Okay, that was such a wild time. The forensic nurse.
Speaker 2: That's the thing, that's her job. She's just a forensic nurse.
Speaker 2: The questions she had to ask were some of the
Speaker 2: most insanely intrusive questions I've ever been asked in my
Speaker 2: whole life. She's like, how many people have you had
Speaker 2: sex with today? So I had to say to her, well,
Speaker 2: I've had sex with five people today. She's like, okay,
Speaker 2: what about the last week? And I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna grab my phone and I'm like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to count. And I went back through
Speaker 2: my calendar and I'm like, la la la la la.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, okay, okay. Cool told her the number and
Speaker 2: she was like, okay, do you have names and phone
Speaker 2: numbers for all of these people? And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: hold on a second. First of all, do I know
Speaker 2: their real names? Actually? Well, yeah, I could give you
Speaker 2: their real name, but also there's confidentiality. Are you going
Speaker 2: to contact these people? She goes, well, it's really just
Speaker 2: a process of elimination. If this does get to court,
Speaker 2: we will need to just you know, knock out their DNA. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is actually so fascinating what I learned, and I
Speaker 2: did not know this. When you have sex with somebody,
Speaker 2: even if they have a condom on, they leave cells
Speaker 2: of DNA in you.
Speaker 1: What the heck?
Speaker 2: And she's like, okay, well, look, if there were five
Speaker 2: people today, you've probably got five different people's DNA. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, am I okay? What is my body doing
Speaker 2: with all of this stored man dna? She said to me.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, okay, so you've obviously had perhaps me before. Yeah,
Speaker 2: done that, that's cool. She's like, okay, well, we just
Speaker 2: use the same tool, that little weird duck quacker thing
Speaker 2: that they stick in and open up. And I was like,
Speaker 2: that's fine, I've had perhaps with me, It's all good.
Speaker 2: She came to me with it and I looked at
Speaker 2: her and then it instantly hit me like a ton
Speaker 2: of bricks. She held it up and I said, you
Speaker 2: can't use lube, can you. She's like, unfortunately no, And
Speaker 2: then I realized why rape kits are so bad. And
Speaker 2: so this tool being inserted and then widened. I'm already
Speaker 2: completely like there is nothing happening downstairs, Like I am
Speaker 2: dry as concrete, and this thing went in and it
Speaker 2: is some of the most excruciating pain I was. Actually
Speaker 2: it damaged me. I had to take I had to
Speaker 2: take like I ended up taking two weeks off work,
Speaker 2: but also I had to do like full STD checks
Speaker 2: and everything. So yeah, from that one guy stealthing me,
Speaker 2: I was not able to work for two weeks. But
Speaker 2: I was also in pain for like a week after
Speaker 2: just from having to have the rape kit done.
Speaker 1: So does that also make it feel a lot safer
Speaker 1: for you that you're seeing clients not at your home
Speaker 1: but in a hotel, in a public place.
Speaker 2: Yeah, them coming to me, there are security cameras everywhere.
Speaker 2: I've got their full name when they do a deposit. Also,
Speaker 2: they're on cameras walking in coming to my room, walking
Speaker 2: out again, I do it gives me a sense of
Speaker 2: feeling safe. The other thing that I have to check
Speaker 2: for actually is when they come to me is glasses.
Speaker 2: So technology nowadays, you know, ray bands have video recording
Speaker 2: in their glasses, and it's a well known fact in
Speaker 2: our industry that men do try it. They want to
Speaker 2: wear their glasses, they want to do all of the
Speaker 2: things with a sex worker, and then they've got this
Speaker 2: memento that either they're going to upload to some website,
Speaker 2: share it around who knows, or just keep it for
Speaker 2: their personal collection. And so yeah, when I see clients
Speaker 2: when they're in the shower, I double check do they
Speaker 2: have glasses? Have they put glasses down somewhere? Have they
Speaker 2: put their phone down somewhere? Is their phone on? Like
Speaker 2: is the screen active? Or I recently had a guy
Speaker 2: who brought out his laptop at the start of a
Speaker 2: booking and said, oh, I'm just downloading some stuff, so
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave my laptop here. And I was like,
Speaker 2: you're kidding me. You can move everything into the bathroom,
Speaker 2: So I, yeah, do make everybody move all of their
Speaker 2: stuff into the bathroom sometimes just so it's out of
Speaker 2: the way. But yeah, they're always on camera, and it
Speaker 2: does make me feel safe.
Speaker 1: Are most of your hotel booking's fun?
Speaker 2: I've come to learn that, oh, this is so many
Speaker 2: Carli secrets today. I didn't know that I had any
Speaker 2: kinks or fetishes, right, no idea. I just thought that
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know, I'm just kind of
Speaker 2: like pretty open minded. I'm into everything. I enjoy everything,
Speaker 2: not really any one way or the other. But I've
Speaker 2: come to work out that I enjoy having sex with
Speaker 2: people that I've never met before, and see that kind
Speaker 2: of makes sense in my industry because I can have
Speaker 2: sex with anyone. It doesn't matter what they look like,
Speaker 2: shape size, color of their skin, how old they are,
Speaker 2: or like nothing, absolutely nothing phazes me whatsoever. I can
Speaker 2: have sex with absolutely anyone. But I get enjoyment out
Speaker 2: of having sex with people that I've only just met,
Speaker 2: and I've come to realize that that is my that's
Speaker 2: my thing. So it does make hotel fun really exciting
Speaker 2: for me. I enjoy it, and they obviously get a
Speaker 2: kick out of it because that's what they're paying me for.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, hotel rooms can be so fun. But also
Speaker 2: at the same time, I can sometimes trash them and
Speaker 2: leave a bit of a mess and or you know,
Speaker 2: have to do a really awkward phone call to get
Speaker 2: my sheets changed because I've just made such a mess.