WEBVTT - Credlin | 22 July

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Krandland live on Sky News Australia.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, gentlemen, good evening, welcome to the program. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what's coming up tonight on Kredline. Doctor g Hard that's

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<v Speaker 2>the name given to the Australian man who joined ISIS

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<v Speaker 2>long thought dead. Well apparently he's alive, potentially set to

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<v Speaker 2>leave an Iraqi prison and return here to Australia. Plenty

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<v Speaker 2>to get across with this one, including the risk that

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<v Speaker 2>such a prominent figure will pose if he returns. The

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<v Speaker 2>worst decade for living standards since World War One, at

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<v Speaker 2>least that's how we're tracking as GDP growth per person

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<v Speaker 2>remains near stagnant, no one to trust in labor, and

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living is below a quarter of a percent

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<v Speaker 2>in a recent poll. Even Union Luminary Labour's Bill Kelty

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<v Speaker 2>is speaking out. Plus we'll go live to Glasgow Victorian's

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<v Speaker 2>weather laughing stock Glaswegians standing there with the multi million

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<v Speaker 2>dollar mock checks, mocking us as our incompetence, state government

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<v Speaker 2>funds their party and Commonwealth games and the usual scripted

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<v Speaker 2>lines today from Labor about returning ISIS linked Australians, But

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<v Speaker 2>no one's buying that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>ISIS is a brutal organization and anyone who has been

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<v Speaker 3>part of it and has been offshore as part of

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<v Speaker 3>it should not be coming back to our country.

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<v Speaker 2>We will stay with this issue because it was always

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen like this, wasn't it. In fact, this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably how they've been planning it all the way along. First,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, rebrand the Islamic State women as dumb, naive

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<v Speaker 2>sort of brides, make everyone fick their benign canvas, sympathy

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<v Speaker 2>for them and their children, the so called cubs of

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<v Speaker 2>the Caliphate. And even though eventually they've alleged crimes will

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<v Speaker 2>be revealed, charges of slavery and terror offenses, by then

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<v Speaker 2>too late, they'll already be back in our country. Once

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<v Speaker 2>saw the women in a back well, then it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be time for the men. And with the men,

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<v Speaker 2>a similar sympathy soft cell will be deployed. They'll start

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<v Speaker 2>with the doctor. He's not really a terrorist, is just

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<v Speaker 2>a dumb idiot who was duped into going abroad and

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<v Speaker 2>ended up working with ISIS. That'll be the line. That

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<v Speaker 2>is some sort of misguided humanitarian And once he's back

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<v Speaker 2>in the country, more men will be on the way.

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<v Speaker 2>When asked the Prime Minister. Well, he'll just repeat this

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<v Speaker 2>little mantra that it's nothing at all to do with

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<v Speaker 2>him or his government that these men, he'll say, won't

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<v Speaker 2>be given any assistance or what utter clap trap that is,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's no greater assistance than any government can give

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<v Speaker 2>these Islamic state types than a passport without which they

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<v Speaker 2>could not board a plane to Australia. Already this morning

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<v Speaker 2>Labour was out with their spin.

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<v Speaker 4>We do not facilitate are the return of ISIS fighters

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<v Speaker 4>or bridees. We have no sympathy for anyone who's participated

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<v Speaker 4>in ISIS.

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<v Speaker 5>We won't be providing any assistance to this individual or

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<v Speaker 5>that cohort, just as we haven't provided assistance to women

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<v Speaker 5>and children who've returned recently.

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<v Speaker 6>For temporary exclusion orders. I have a high threshold under

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<v Speaker 6>the low We have to operate under the Constitution and

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<v Speaker 6>the High Court, and the Minister the minute he receives

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<v Speaker 6>advice to issue such an order from the security agencies,

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<v Speaker 6>has done so and will do so.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all just blatherer from the government. Let's remind

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves who this doctor g Hard really is. Here he

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<v Speaker 2>is before he went off and joined Islamic State and

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<v Speaker 2>then images later circulated by the terror group as part

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<v Speaker 2>of their propaganda campaign. Forty one year old Perth born

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<v Speaker 2>man Tarek Kamler, an Australian trained medical doctor, a pediatrician,

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<v Speaker 2>previously thought to being killed in Raka. This is a

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<v Speaker 2>city in Syria's north close to the Turkish border, doctor

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<v Speaker 2>g Hard where we now know he's alive, locked up

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<v Speaker 2>in an Iraqi prison and, as reported today in an

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive by The Australian, currently owned thegoing interrogation by counter

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<v Speaker 2>terrorism authorities now. When asked for comment about these revelations

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<v Speaker 2>involving doctor g Hart, incredibly, Tony Burk's Home Affairs department

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<v Speaker 2>declined to provide any media comment, but the Iraqi officials, well,

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<v Speaker 2>they were more forthcoming, telling reporter Mohammad al Pharez that

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<v Speaker 2>potential repatriation of Tarak Kamla back to Australia remained I

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<v Speaker 2>quote an open yet conditional pathway, confirming developments this is

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<v Speaker 2>the iraqis again not something our own Home Affairs department

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<v Speaker 2>would do. Kie officials. A Supreme Judicial Council of Iraq

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<v Speaker 2>issued a statement regarding its investigation into him. They call

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<v Speaker 2>him Abo Yusuf l Astrali this is an alias that

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<v Speaker 2>he was using overseas, saying that he was arrested in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nineteen when he was moving through the front lines

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<v Speaker 2>of the then Caliphate. According to evidence provided to courts

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<v Speaker 2>to accord in Baghdad, doctor Jihad did not die in

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<v Speaker 2>the final Raka siege as previously thought. Instead, he retreated

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<v Speaker 2>with hard core remnants of Islamic State, and yes, their

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<v Speaker 2>statement uses that term hardcore through various territories it held

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<v Speaker 2>until he was captured, says the Iraqis. During this time

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<v Speaker 2>he was working as a field doctor. Now presumably as

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<v Speaker 2>field medics do. This meant he was patching up terrorist

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<v Speaker 2>fighters so that they could resume their battlefield brutality. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the report on the front page of The Australian makes

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<v Speaker 2>for shocking reading. Shocking, but not surprising, at least not

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<v Speaker 2>surprising to me. I have known all about these men

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<v Speaker 2>and women for many years, and I'm privy to a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of intelligence about them that I can never

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<v Speaker 2>make public. Suffice to say, individuals that joined Islamic State

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<v Speaker 2>ended up some of the most inhumane and depraved people

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<v Speaker 2>on the face of the earth. What they did, what

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<v Speaker 2>they saw what they allowed to happen, all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>the worst of the worst. Here is comments last night

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<v Speaker 2>regarding this week's bail of an ISIS linked woman by

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<v Speaker 2>former Prime Minister Tony Abbott.

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<v Speaker 7>Too many people are in out of misguided politeness. Seemed

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<v Speaker 7>to think that you cannot call out Islamism and you

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<v Speaker 7>cannot call all out Islamists.

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<v Speaker 1>Now the truth is everyone.

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<v Speaker 7>In Australia, to use a phrase I've used a lot,

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<v Speaker 7>has got to join Team Australia now.

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<v Speaker 2>Today as we know, it's the women and the children

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<v Speaker 2>who have returned here. Soon it'll be the men mark

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<v Speaker 2>my words. As revealed via the newspaper, some thirteen Australian

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<v Speaker 2>men suspected of being is As fighters are already under

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<v Speaker 2>investigation by officials to determine whether or not they work combatants.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's to say thirteen are being investigated by the

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<v Speaker 2>Raticis alone. Now is Australia involved here? Is our government

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<v Speaker 2>or are our officials any part of this? Are they

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<v Speaker 2>across it? Are they being briefed? Again? No comment from

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<v Speaker 2>Home Affairs. But knowing what I do about how Canberra works,

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<v Speaker 2>not for one minute do I believe that Australian authorities

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<v Speaker 2>are out of the loop on any of this. Not

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<v Speaker 2>for one minute do I think that this front page

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<v Speaker 2>of the newspaper today was a surprise to Tony Burke

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<v Speaker 2>or his Home Affairs department. I just don't buy that.

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<v Speaker 2>I suspect that's precisely why Home Affairs refused to make

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<v Speaker 2>a comment.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor g Hard studied medicine at the University of Adelaide.

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<v Speaker 2>He was known as a playboy, says the reports today,

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<v Speaker 2>A sleeze ball was one quote. It's also revealed that

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<v Speaker 2>he took multiple wives while overseas, including we're told a

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<v Speaker 2>convert to Islam from the United States quote an extremist.

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<v Speaker 2>Now incredibly reports the Australian doctor g Hard's children are

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<v Speaker 2>eligible for repatriation to Australia. And it's this critical line

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<v Speaker 2>in the reports today that I want to read to

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<v Speaker 2>you tonight. It says born in Perth in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five to a Palestinian father and a German Catholic convert mother,

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<v Speaker 2>Kamler was raised as an only child, meaning that unless

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<v Speaker 2>someone can tell me otherwise, unless he's got some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of other citizenship claim via his foreign born father or mother,

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<v Speaker 2>than miss doctor g Hard Tarek Kamla remains an Australian

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<v Speaker 2>citizen and that is shocking, isn't it. As a country

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<v Speaker 2>we owe this man nothing, absolutely nothing, And so if

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister says we can't stop him coming back

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<v Speaker 2>because he's an Australian citizen, then surely we change the

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<v Speaker 2>law or we deploy an exclusion order to keep him

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<v Speaker 2>locked up in Iraq or whatever other avenue we need

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<v Speaker 2>to keep this man out of our country. Here is

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<v Speaker 2>former soldier our coalition MP Field Thompson and also One

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<v Speaker 2>Nation's Barnaby Joyce demanding action.

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<v Speaker 9>There are temporary exclusion orders which the Coalition put in

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<v Speaker 9>place in twenty nineteen that can prevent this person and

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<v Speaker 9>others like what should have happened with those so called

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<v Speaker 9>Isis brides.

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<v Speaker 10>And if they don't have the laws, then whistles down

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<v Speaker 10>back down to Canberra and we can change the laws,

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<v Speaker 10>so you can say we can stop them.

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<v Speaker 11>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>What can't happen, what must not happen, is it we

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<v Speaker 2>let Albaneze and Burg get away with this game that

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing they can do to keep these people out.

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<v Speaker 11>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Beyond this, the women were their test case, but it

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<v Speaker 2>was always about the men as well. So now it starts.

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<v Speaker 2>We won't help them, says the PM. We won't give

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<v Speaker 2>them any assistance.

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<v Speaker 4>We are not repatriating people and we're not providing assistance.

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<v Speaker 4>The government is providing no support for the creation of

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<v Speaker 4>these people, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet they come back. Here is Opposition leader Angus Taylor today.

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<v Speaker 3>We've seen an ISIS terrorist who's living offshore wanting to

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<v Speaker 3>come back to our country. The Labor Party needs to

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<v Speaker 3>commit to preventing that from happening. They have many leavers

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<v Speaker 3>at their disposal. They can ensure that this person does

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<v Speaker 3>not get a passport. They can use temporary exclusion orders.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not up to just the Opposition now to fight this.

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<v Speaker 2>Every Australian's got to call out this lie that there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing that Labor can do to keep these men out.

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<v Speaker 2>There is and they must do it because, trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>you saw what happened at Bondai. It's bad enough that

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<v Speaker 2>the women are back, you do not want to see

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<v Speaker 2>the men these men back here in our country as well.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get the headlines now. From Canberraskyi's political

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<v Speaker 2>reporter Aspen.

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<v Speaker 12>Bloomfield, thirteen Australian men linked to the Islamic state are

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<v Speaker 12>hoping to return home, including Perth born pediatrician and Islamic

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<v Speaker 12>State operative Tourek Kamla, presumed dead by family and authorities

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<v Speaker 12>in twenty seventeen, the Australian reports Iraqi Supreme Court documents

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<v Speaker 12>show he is being interrogated in a Baghdad prison. The

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<v Speaker 12>Opposition is calling on the Department of Home Affairs to

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<v Speaker 12>block his return.

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<v Speaker 3>The Labor Party needs to commit to preventing that from happening.

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<v Speaker 3>They have many leavers at their disposal. I can ensure

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<v Speaker 3>that this person does not get a passport.

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<v Speaker 12>In Adelaide, several groups are pushing for a gas export

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<v Speaker 12>tax and tied to gambling regulation. Ahead of Labour's fiftieth

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<v Speaker 12>national conference. One union wants to see the Union Jack

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<v Speaker 12>and colonial statues removed from public life.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you up for changing the flat I'm here in

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<v Speaker 5>Adelaide for Labour's national conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you be up for changing it? Claire? Look, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just not what the conference is about. Yes or no?

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<v Speaker 2>Claire again?

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<v Speaker 5>Nat, Sorry, it's not something that I've had a moment

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<v Speaker 5>to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes or no, I'm changing the Union Jack.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm telling you, as Housing Minister, I don't spend my

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<v Speaker 5>time thinking about the national flag.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in the paper today. You've got a head start,

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<v Speaker 2>yes or.

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<v Speaker 5>No, genuinely haven't given it a second's thought.

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<v Speaker 12>The Liberal Party, attempting to see off a challenge from

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<v Speaker 12>one nation, has unveiled its economic plan.

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<v Speaker 13>While Labor are busy talking about themselves at their conference,

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<v Speaker 13>Angus Taylor and I are talking to small businesses and families.

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<v Speaker 13>We're talking to ordinary Australians every day, Australians about the

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<v Speaker 13>issues that are important to them, and that's what's outlining

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<v Speaker 13>this plan.

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<v Speaker 12>The document includes an instant asset right off and tax

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<v Speaker 12>back guarantee.

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<v Speaker 2>Right off the back of all of that, there was

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<v Speaker 2>a poll yesterday showing one Nature was just one point

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<v Speaker 2>off Labor when it came to dealing with cost of living. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's also reported today that we're heading for the weakest

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<v Speaker 2>decade in living standards since World War One. GDP growth

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<v Speaker 2>per person has ritten only four percent so far, which

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<v Speaker 2>puts us on track, as I say, for the weakest

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<v Speaker 2>period over one in one hundred years. Joining me now

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<v Speaker 2>Skinny's reporter Caroenn Marcus and Skyney's contributor and a woman

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<v Speaker 2>who did a mighty job while I was on leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Rodgers, great to see you both. I'll get into

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<v Speaker 2>this cost of living stuff, but to both of you

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<v Speaker 2>just quickly, it's not that hard to give an answer

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<v Speaker 2>for any senior politician. Jamie Rodgers about the flag, Peter.

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<v Speaker 14>I watched that and I was cringing because I just said,

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<v Speaker 14>answer the question.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either yes or no.

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<v Speaker 15>Do you want to remove the union?

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<v Speaker 14>Jack, And let's not forget this is also the government

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<v Speaker 14>that is selling off our defense assets, so it doesn't

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<v Speaker 14>really say a lot about how they feel about Australia.

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<v Speaker 15>Caro.

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<v Speaker 2>Like me, you've just been overseas. Everywhere I went in

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<v Speaker 2>the country I was in, I saw them proudly fly

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<v Speaker 2>there fag and we've got this cringe about our history

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<v Speaker 2>and our flag. We've got a PM in front of

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<v Speaker 2>three of them, and now we've got a union that

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<v Speaker 2>wants to dump but we've got Cricket Australia who was

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<v Speaker 2>scared of even seeing the anthem on our national day.

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<v Speaker 2>I me an artistic, it's humiliating.

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<v Speaker 15>It is, it's pathetic.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 11>I was just in Singapore and you're right, it's actually

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<v Speaker 11>going to be their national day next month and there

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<v Speaker 11>were flags everywhere and it was only the Singapore flag.

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<v Speaker 11>No one was flying other flags. Maybe not allowed to that,

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<v Speaker 11>but I don't think people want to. I don't think

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<v Speaker 11>people want to. We only have this shame, this guilt

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<v Speaker 11>around patriotism here in Australia. And the fact is, if clara'

0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.160
<v Speaker 11>neil didn't want to change the flag, I think she

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<v Speaker 11>would just say it. I think she would say I

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<v Speaker 11>don't want to. But I think her silence over at

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<v Speaker 11>her refusal to answer the question speaks volumes she is

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<v Speaker 11>open to changing it. And that's why she didn't want

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<v Speaker 11>to admit it, because it would not be.

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<v Speaker 15>A popular answer. But it right her answer.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to those decline, the standards, the decline in

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<v Speaker 2>our living standard, the numbers out today. You've got a

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<v Speaker 2>Reserve Bank governor telling us how bad it is, when

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<v Speaker 2>we know how bad it is. But you've even got

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<v Speaker 2>a labor stallward in an EXACTU Boss Bill Kelty putting

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<v Speaker 2>in a submission to a parliamentary inquiry and he says, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>something is really wrong with our economy. He's worried that

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<v Speaker 2>living standards are falling at the same time that commodity

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<v Speaker 2>prices are booming. Now. When Kelty says that labor can't

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<v Speaker 2>bury their head in the sand anymore, can they?

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<v Speaker 14>Jamie, No, you would hope that the government does stop

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<v Speaker 14>and listen, because Peter, we have a fundamental economic problem

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<v Speaker 14>in this country. The fact that we're about to have

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<v Speaker 14>the worst decade in living standards in more than a

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<v Speaker 14>century says it all. And this is off the back

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<v Speaker 14>of that OECD report that came out earlier this month

0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.360
<v Speaker 14>as well that said our living standards and our real

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<v Speaker 14>wages had all gone back by five percent over the

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<v Speaker 14>past five years in comparison to other nations where they

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<v Speaker 14>had risen by five percent. We need to start seeing

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<v Speaker 14>and taking this really seriously because businesses are closing, families

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<v Speaker 14>are tightening their belts. We need Australia to be a

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<v Speaker 14>place where you invest. Businesses want to expand they want

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<v Speaker 14>to come and open here, and they want to hire

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<v Speaker 14>people and increase their productivity. And unfortunately we've got new

0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.159
<v Speaker 14>taxes in place that is making that incredibly difficult and

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<v Speaker 14>making us not a very enticing place to come.

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<v Speaker 15>And do some business.

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<v Speaker 14>And that's exactly what we need here is to try

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<v Speaker 14>and entice more and more people and RBA will the

0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:40.000
<v Speaker 14>former RBA governor in Philip Low, and he said that

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<v Speaker 14>the business investment hasn't kept pace with population growth. I

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<v Speaker 14>think that also says a lot. This government has a

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<v Speaker 14>lot to answer for, and I really hope that they're

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<v Speaker 14>listening to a labor store wark like Bill Kelty so

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<v Speaker 14>that we can get some serious economic changes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's go to their big promises on housing, because

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<v Speaker 2>it was a centerpiece of their election campaign. I suspect

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<v Speaker 2>that they'll want it to be something they can put

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<v Speaker 2>up in lights at the next election. They put ten

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars on the table for housing. They've had a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of promises. But revelations today Caro that Treasury

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<v Speaker 2>warned them nine months before they put together the scheme

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<v Speaker 2>that the target they had was just not achievable, right,

0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.959
<v Speaker 2>just not achievable. And as of April this year, well

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<v Speaker 2>Treasury is right. They've met less than five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>their target. The target was forty thousand YEW homes. Less

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<v Speaker 2>than five percent. That's shocking. And then in the reports

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<v Speaker 2>there are various reports about this today there's been audits

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<v Speaker 2>to the staff and the turnover and that's making things worse.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a brew haha with the CEO, and you

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<v Speaker 2>know all of this, but I still can't get past

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<v Speaker 2>ten billion dollars and there are only five percent in

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<v Speaker 2>to a target. This is claroneal again, I might.

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<v Speaker 15>Add, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 11>The person who can't even answer a simple question about

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<v Speaker 11>whether she supports the flag. I mean, it's not hard

0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:06.200
<v Speaker 11>to see that she can't oversee this very important portfolio

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<v Speaker 11>and Housing Australia. I mean, it's closer to four percent

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<v Speaker 11>actually what they've delivered, and this is just three years

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<v Speaker 11>away that they're supposed to have forty thousand social and

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<v Speaker 11>affordable housing thing that projects delivered homes for people.

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<v Speaker 15>They're down.

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<v Speaker 11>It's about fourteen hundred and it's three years off. But

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<v Speaker 11>you know they've had they've been plagued.

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<v Speaker 15>With all sorts of internal issues.

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<v Speaker 11>Also out today a report that they've axed an independent

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<v Speaker 11>committee which was overseeing the decisions that they were making,

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<v Speaker 11>so there's basically no one to make sure that the

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<v Speaker 11>spending in this.

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<v Speaker 15>In this agency is defensible.

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<v Speaker 11>That they now are marking their own homeworks, so it's

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<v Speaker 11>bound to get even worse. They said in Senate estimates

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<v Speaker 11>last year that they'd laid off a quarter more than

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<v Speaker 11>a quarter of their staff. So I fear like blind

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<v Speaker 11>Freddy can see this is never going to happen. But

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<v Speaker 11>the government's going to stick to it because it's its

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<v Speaker 11>main promise and we're just going to see more waste

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<v Speaker 11>and nothing delivered.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe they're paying the Ghetto tax. I mean, maybe

0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.200
<v Speaker 2>that's the problem. The Gatto tax on construction out of

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria has gone national. Just just listen to this. This

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<v Speaker 2>is nine journalist Nick McKenzie on radio this morning about

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria's so called Gatto tax.

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<v Speaker 8>Gato's working for a hell of a lot of builders

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<v Speaker 8>in the high rise housing apartment market, effectively adding what

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<v Speaker 8>we call people in the industry and what we're calling

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<v Speaker 8>the article a Gatto tax.

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<v Speaker 2>Now this is millions and millions of dollars added onto

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of building, allegedly related to organized crime, a

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<v Speaker 2>whole lot of stuff in relation to the CFMU and

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen billion dollars of taxpayers money, Jamie and Victoria that's

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<v Speaker 2>gone missing, and yet the Premiere just Interallen is still

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<v Speaker 2>refusing to have a Royal Commission.

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<v Speaker 14>Speaks volumes, doesn't it, Peter. And this news of the

0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.320
<v Speaker 14>Gatto tax has come out just months after Premier Justinter

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<v Speaker 14>Allen had said that she had managed to remove the

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<v Speaker 14>corruption and gangland involvement within the construction industry, and now

0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 14>this story has come out, but it is also off

0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:24.640
<v Speaker 14>the back of her push to build all of these

0:21:24.680 --> 0:21:27.520
<v Speaker 14>apartments as a way to solve the cost of living

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:31.080
<v Speaker 14>and housing crisis in Victoria. But when you hear things

0:21:31.200 --> 0:21:34.359
<v Speaker 14>like apartment buildings that the plastering costs are adding around

0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.960
<v Speaker 14>that six percent more to these buildings, and a CFMAU

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<v Speaker 14>boss had said that ninety percent of the plastering invoices

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<v Speaker 14>were around some sort of alleged corruption.

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<v Speaker 15>It just shows.

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<v Speaker 14>Though that the just Into Allen has fundamentally failed Victorians

0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.760
<v Speaker 14>to be able to remove this alleged gangland involvement within

0:21:53.800 --> 0:21:57.760
<v Speaker 14>the construction industry and ultimately Peter, it's Victorians that are

0:21:57.760 --> 0:21:59.720
<v Speaker 14>paying the price for this. They are now paying the

0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 14>gas tax on buildings and apartments that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 14>buy into. So it's Victorians yet again, that being the

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<v Speaker 14>ones that are impacted.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say to the rest of the country

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria fails, unfortunately you'll be bailing them out. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is a fight. I think that every Australian, fair minded

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<v Speaker 2>Australian's got to get behind in terms of turfing out

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<v Speaker 2>a bad government. Come though, Vember Caro. The ALP conference

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 2>kicks off tomorrow. This one's interesting, right, So the Services

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<v Speaker 2>Union is threatening a brawl on the floor of the

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<v Speaker 2>conference if changes aren't made to the national platform and

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<v Speaker 2>remind people it's binding on labor MPs because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see private companies who get government contracts make

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<v Speaker 2>any profit from services to support rape and domestic violence victims.

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<v Speaker 2>You know somehow that you can't make a profit out

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<v Speaker 2>of a government contract. Well, I'll tell you what. There's

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of private companies in childcare. They make massive profits.

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<v Speaker 2>We spend sixteen billion dollars per annu and of course

0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:05.159
<v Speaker 2>we've got tax payers now funding the pay increases of

0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:09.760
<v Speaker 2>unionized staff in private childcare centers. So if you don't

0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 2>want it for DV and rape services, how about we

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<v Speaker 2>not make profit over here in childcare, or better yet,

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.800
<v Speaker 2>how about we give them money to the parents to

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<v Speaker 2>put the childcare in place that best suits their family.

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<v Speaker 11>I know it is not a novel idea and something

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<v Speaker 11>that I've been arguing for as a parent of young

0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 11>children as well someone who's used childcare for when I'm

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:33.200
<v Speaker 11>at work part time.

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<v Speaker 2>But what.

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:41.040
<v Speaker 11>It is inconsistent because why stop at vulnerable rape and

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 11>domestic violence victims. You could argue the same for children

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.440
<v Speaker 11>elderly all sorts of areas where there are private sector,

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.959
<v Speaker 11>private businesses involved. In this case, one of the biggest

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 11>unions in the country, the Australian Services Union, is threatening.

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<v Speaker 15>To have this very public rule on the floor of.

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<v Speaker 11>The National Conference on Saturday when this issue is going

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<v Speaker 11>to be debated, if they don't get their way, So

0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 11>they're basically holding the Labor Party to ransom and saying

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:12.680
<v Speaker 11>we are not we need this to be only nonprofit

0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:18.440
<v Speaker 11>or government government companies that are offering government agencies offering

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:21.480
<v Speaker 11>these services or else or else. We are going to

0:24:21.520 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 11>have a tantrum And is it only little wonder because

0:24:24.600 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 11>they're more likely to be union members of course in

0:24:28.359 --> 0:24:30.399
<v Speaker 11>these areas, so of course they're going to want to

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 11>have control over it.

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<v Speaker 15>So we'll see what happens on the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>I would actually take them more seriously, ladies, if Labor

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<v Speaker 2>made a decision on Saturday where they debate this motion

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<v Speaker 2>to keep men who pretend they are women, out of

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:46.600
<v Speaker 2>rapes and is, out of women's prisons, out of women's spaces,

0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 2>because all of this is about protecting women and they

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<v Speaker 2>can't even define anymore what a woman is. I will

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<v Speaker 2>leave it there. Thank you again, Jamie for your great

0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.199
<v Speaker 2>work the last few weeks. All right, let's go back

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<v Speaker 2>to that story on the front pay to the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>today the revelations about one of Australia's most notorious Islamic

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<v Speaker 2>state fighters, Perth born pediatrician Tarik A Kamala, dubbed Doctor Jihad,

0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:13.760
<v Speaker 2>widely presumed to have been killed in Syria a few

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 2>years ago, in fact now alive in Iraqi prison. The

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>story broke late last night. It's from a journalist at

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<v Speaker 2>the OS. His name is Mohammed Alpharees.

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<v Speaker 16>Tarrek Kamla, the notorious playboy turned Isis doctor did not

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<v Speaker 16>perish in the ruins of Rucca, as it was speculated.

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<v Speaker 16>An updating to the investigation of Kamla, also known as

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<v Speaker 16>Other User for Australia or Doctor Jihad, was published by

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<v Speaker 16>Iraq's Supreme Judicial Council late last month, which says that

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<v Speaker 16>he was apprehended while shifting through the final front lines

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:49.399
<v Speaker 16>of the caliphon The core brief outlines his capture, his

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 16>role within the Islamic States Health Department, and his final

0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:56.080
<v Speaker 16>desperate flight from the crumbling Calipha. Here is why this

0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 16>matters for Australians right now, as the Albanza government faced

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<v Speaker 16>is mounting heat over the return of a so called

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<v Speaker 16>ISUS brides, doctor j Had is among thirteen Australian operatives

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.160
<v Speaker 16>who remain in Iraqi custody. Now those men are being

0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:13.119
<v Speaker 16>questioned over their involvement with ISIS, and they could be

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 16>freed in due time if their deemed as noncombattled.

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<v Speaker 2>Right all credit to Muhammad Air and The Australian from

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<v Speaker 2>breaking this story. I'll bring in our former Australian AFP

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<v Speaker 2>Detective Superintendent David Craig. David, welcome again. I've already spoken

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<v Speaker 2>to you this week about the ISIS bride linked woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like the term, but that's the shorthand tonight

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<v Speaker 2>here was given bail earlier this week. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>get you back on with these revelations. I'm not surprised

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<v Speaker 2>by any of this, Sadly I'm not. There's already talked

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 2>from Iraqi officials about this individual. Returning to Australia. Home

0:26:48.760 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Affairs went to ground today. The department declined to give

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:54.320
<v Speaker 2>any comment to the media. We heard nothing from Tony Burke,

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.400
<v Speaker 2>we heard nothing from the Prime Minister. They just threw

0:26:57.440 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 2>out a whole lot of low level ministers with that

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 2>old line that they won't do anything to assist and

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to repatriate these individuals. But come on,

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the games up.

0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:06.520
<v Speaker 8>Now.

0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:09.520
<v Speaker 2>We know how the women got back, we know exactly

0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:15.679
<v Speaker 2>what happened here. This feels very orchestrated to me now, David.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, it's very very alarming. This is no longer

0:27:21.840 --> 0:27:24.480
<v Speaker 1>a theoretical thing that the government can try and hide

0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>behind and say that other people coming back were just

0:27:27.680 --> 0:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>brides or under the direction of these is proven Islamic

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 1>fighters that are coming back to Australia, and there's urgent

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:40.080
<v Speaker 1>action needs to happen by this government. I haven't seen

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.720
<v Speaker 1>any leadership from today at all. I know that there's

0:27:42.760 --> 0:27:44.800
<v Speaker 1>people have contacted me. There's a lot of people very

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:50.560
<v Speaker 1>worried about this because apart from doctor Ghard himself, who

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Wally says he was working in medical field, was also

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.160
<v Speaker 1>carrying in AK forty seven and repairing helping to heal

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Islamic fighters that could then go out and then kill

0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 1>our own soldiers. I mean, we need to be taking

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>a forward leaning posture with this, Peter, the government needs

0:28:07.760 --> 0:28:09.879
<v Speaker 1>to be up to this. This isn't a time for politics.

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.000
<v Speaker 1>This is a time for national security. And I don't

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>know that this government's got the heart or the nous

0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:17.480
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and jeez, I hope they have.

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.120
<v Speaker 2>When I worked to the Howard government, they brought back

0:28:22.160 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 2>the Parliament to amend a piece of legislation and all

0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:28.680
<v Speaker 2>sides of Parliament came back, or you know, people of

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:32.000
<v Speaker 2>political persuasion came back within twenty four hours and we

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 2>fixed something post nine to eleven. I remember in the

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Abbit era we had some similar, very tough legislation. I

0:28:37.920 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 2>remember briefing Bill Shorten's office. I remember my boss and

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Bill Shorten sitting down to agree that it was in

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the absolute national interest that this passed through the Parliament

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 2>absolutely as intended and quickly. So governments can do it,

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:56.120
<v Speaker 2>oppositions can do it. The opposition One Nation and everybody

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>else has said today that they stand ready to help

0:28:58.480 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 2>the Prime Minister wants us to believe that he hasn't

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.200
<v Speaker 2>got the laws he needs. But you and I both

0:29:03.320 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 2>know that the Passport Act gives him powers and he's

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>also got exclusion orders. Give us a sense right now

0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:14.560
<v Speaker 2>of what he's got on his desk that he could

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>use to keep this man out.

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well not even just this man, Peter, pardon me.

0:29:22.440 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 17>Okay.

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:24.960
<v Speaker 1>The first thing the government needs to be doing is

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 1>using these temporary exclusion orders. Now, I've seen Tony Burke

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>say that, oh, there'll be a constitutional challenge, or that

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>the High Court won't like it, or the fact is

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 1>no High Court has actually tested the validity constitutional validity

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>of temporary exclusion orders, So that's a nonsense. He's scared

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>of something that doesn't actually exist. If this is going

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 1>to push our laws to the High Court, then this

0:29:49.120 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>is the case to do it on. We are trying

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:55.160
<v Speaker 1>to stop foreign terrorist fighters coming into Australia, So the

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:57.920
<v Speaker 1>first thing is temper exclusion orders, and the Parliament should

0:29:57.960 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 1>be recalled to make sure that these these temporary exclusion

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.240
<v Speaker 1>orders and control orders for when they do get back

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>are up to the task for ex ISIS fighters in Australia.

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Why can't we recall Parliament and have that discussion. This

0:30:11.520 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 1>is very important. This is a bipartisan issue.

0:30:15.400 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I noticed in the report David that his father was

0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>a Palestinian born Australian. I presume he still lives in Australia.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:27.760
<v Speaker 2>The father, the mother was Dutch born. Now, if I

0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>remember rightly, you didn't have to take up the citizenship

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:34.000
<v Speaker 2>of another country to lose your Australian citizenship. You just

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:38.080
<v Speaker 2>had to have the ability to do it. Now, presumably

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 2>in the case of the Dutch mother, at least he

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:44.320
<v Speaker 2>could avail himself of Dutch citizenship. Can we, under the

0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>current laws cancel his ability to return to Australia knowing

0:30:48.800 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>that because of his mother, potentially his father, he will

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>not be rendered stateless.

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Look, I think that's a real possibility, Petter. I know

0:30:56.240 --> 0:30:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the High Court has looked very carefully at removing citizenship

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>as punitive measure. But if there is an alternative place,

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>alternative nation state where they can go, I think it

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>might be looked unfavorably. Now I'm not a High Court

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>constitutional expert, that's for sure, But we need to be

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>doing everything. We need our government to be standing up

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and leading this charge. Well, the first thing we need

0:31:16.720 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 1>to do is make sure, Okay, if these people are

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:20.320
<v Speaker 1>going to come back. We need to be able to

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.560
<v Speaker 1>prosecute them. We need AFP officers in Iraq. We need

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:26.520
<v Speaker 1>to get battlefield evidence. We need as much admissible evidence

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>as we can so if they do come back they

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>can be prosecuted. We need temporary exclusion orders to stagger

0:31:32.040 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the return of these people. We can't have them turning

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>up when they want. We want them to turn up

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:39.200
<v Speaker 1>here when we want. We want control over that. We

0:31:39.320 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>need to stagger the return so we can control the

0:31:41.760 --> 0:31:46.480
<v Speaker 1>resources and administer the justice needed, whatever the case may be,

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>for what they're responsible for this And the greatest danger Peter,

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>of course, is if these people do get back into Australia.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 1>It's not just the harm that they may do. It's

0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>the propaganda value that they've got, and that the transference

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>that hatred and that ideology to the next generation of Australians.

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a legacy that will haunt this government for

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 1>a very long time, and it should because we are

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.760
<v Speaker 1>going to have a terror legacy here for the next

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>ten to fifteen years at least. If these people are

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:23.040
<v Speaker 1>allowed back in without being subject to very strict control

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.080
<v Speaker 1>orders and when necessary, preventative detention orders.

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, just quickly, quickly. There's been material tenant in according Baghdad.

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.680
<v Speaker 2>There's the involvement of the Iraqi Judicial Council. There's briefing

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 2>papers that you can barely climb over in that report

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>today from the Iraqi end. There's no way that this

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.800
<v Speaker 2>is a surprise to the Albanezy government, is it. They

0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>will be absolutely briefed on this. They will be across it,

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.600
<v Speaker 2>and of course we've got a post in Baghdad.

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Of course they'll be across it.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Peter.

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I just wish that they would put the same vigor

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>and resources into stopping ISIS fighters turning to our country

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>as they have in prosecuting some of our ex veterans.

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 2>One hundred percent, David Craig, we will leave it there,

0:33:10.880 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 2>thank you. Let's go to Glasgow after the break. Poor

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 2>our Victorian taxpayers. You're given the Scott's two hundred million

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:21.160
<v Speaker 2>dollars to have a party on you. Andrew Burnham two

0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 2>day one. All of his favorites have got a gig,

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:28.120
<v Speaker 2>including someone who should have been thrown out of the Parliament.

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 2>Welcome back. Anthony Albertezy caught out this week having a

0:33:36.920 --> 0:33:40.959
<v Speaker 2>lavish point pipeer dinner with millionaires and you'd labor keep

0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:43.480
<v Speaker 2>up their attacks on Gina Reinhardt. What I'll tell you

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>who else was there with the Prime Minister. But first

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>let's go to Glasgow now where Skyney's contributor news called

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 2>European correspondent Sophie Elsewhere finds herself for the opening of

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>the Commonwealth Games this week. Well, welcome to your sofa.

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I loved your story a bit earlier in the week.

0:33:59.080 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes it was a stay aunt, you know, with the

0:34:00.760 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 2>big check, but it was a good story. Asking the

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Scots if they were happy with a two hundred million

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.359
<v Speaker 2>given to them by poor Victorian taxpayers.

0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:13.560
<v Speaker 18>Have a listen, we're giving you nearly two hundred million

0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:16.320
<v Speaker 18>Australian dollars to hold the Commonwealth Games.

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 15>What's your thoughts on this?

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 19>It's actually a normal bar could a cut of paints

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 19>for I think I would like to thank them because

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 19>I think coming to Scotland it's a brilliant, brilliant games

0:34:30.320 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 19>for the Commonwealth countries.

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 15>It's a lot, but thank you very much.

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 17>But you know you could you could have held it

0:34:37.360 --> 0:34:40.319
<v Speaker 17>yourself and then got all the people to travel out

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 17>to Australia and just so you know.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:45.520
<v Speaker 2>So we've got some subtitles there for people who can't

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:49.479
<v Speaker 2>follow that Glasswgian accent. But clearly the joke's on us.

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 18>Peter, great to be with you here from Glasgow, but yes,

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 18>that's exactly the case. Speaking to Glaswegians here, the joke

0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 18>is on victoria Orians, and sadly it is become a

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 18>joke because Glaswegians are laughing all the way to the bank.

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:09.600
<v Speaker 18>They've got nearly two hundred million, or received nearly two

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 18>hundred million dollars from hard working Victorian taxpayers to hold

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:18.520
<v Speaker 18>the Commonwealth Games here seventeen thousand kilometers away, Peter, and

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 18>walking around the streets here, I arrived here yesterday. There's

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 18>not an awful lot of excitement in the air. There's

0:35:25.160 --> 0:35:29.719
<v Speaker 18>not a lot of knowledge by locals exactly when the

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.239
<v Speaker 18>Commonwealth Games start. There's few signs up, there are some

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 18>flags on light poles. Heaven knows where all this money

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 18>is going, but I can tell you that the Scots

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 18>are very, very excited to receive this huge injection of

0:35:44.719 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 18>cash because of what the Victorian government did with the

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 18>Commonwealth Games.

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they use some of the doughs to paint that

0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 2>pride flag behind you. What can you tell us about that?

0:35:57.560 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 18>Well, that's right, Peter. I'm standing here in Castle Candle Rigs.

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 18>Should I say where this giant Pride flag is now?

0:36:04.920 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 18>Just tomorrow there will be really on display here a

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.800
<v Speaker 18>lot of the country flags, the fifty six Commonwealth nations,

0:36:14.320 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 18>and then beside them there will be black ribbons, mourning

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.600
<v Speaker 18>ribbons that the organizers will put beside the countries that

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 18>criminalize same sex marriage. And they are doing this flag stunt, Peter,

0:36:28.560 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 18>just ahead of the opening ceremony. Now there's been some

0:36:31.160 --> 0:36:35.680
<v Speaker 18>backlashing criticism that the organizers should not be getting involved

0:36:35.760 --> 0:36:38.960
<v Speaker 18>in activism. They have made it very clear they are

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 18>getting involved in activism, and Peter, the firing gun hasn't

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.400
<v Speaker 18>even shot here in Scotland, and ready we're starting to

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 18>see organizers going down this slippery slope of going into

0:36:50.440 --> 0:36:52.880
<v Speaker 18>activism and I think a lot of people are not

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 18>very impressed by that.

0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 2>I will be keeping an eye out to see how

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>many flags there are for Australia. Will come back to

0:37:00.640 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that when the Games get underway. But let's go to

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a Downing Street first day there, of course for the

0:37:05.400 --> 0:37:09.320
<v Speaker 2>new Prime minister, a lot riding on his attempt to

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:15.120
<v Speaker 2>rebrand labor. Burnham's promise change. There's the real risk though,

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:18.160
<v Speaker 2>that he's going to take labor even further to the left.

0:37:18.200 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>He's got a brand new cabinet. He's rewarded all of

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 2>his supporters. I can't believe that he's put Angela Rayner

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:30.400
<v Speaker 2>into the Housing ministry given she failed to pay tax

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>on an investment property and was thrown out, was dumped

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.879
<v Speaker 2>as the Deputy Prime Minister last time.

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:43.239
<v Speaker 18>Well, it is quite extraordinary, Peter. But Andy Burnham has

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 18>made his mark. He's gotten rid of a lot of

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 18>Keir Starmer's chiefs that were in there, and he has

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 18>said I'm getting back who I want and he's made

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 18>that abundantly clear by making appointments such as Angela Rayner

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:00.600
<v Speaker 18>coming back in as Housing Secretary. Now he's spending an

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 18>awful lot of money, Peter. He's cutting bus fares down

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:07.000
<v Speaker 18>to two pounds, He's going to build a enormous amount

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:10.440
<v Speaker 18>of social housing. He's saying he's going to spend hundreds

0:38:10.480 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 18>of millions to bring down energy bills. But Britain's are

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 18>asking how on earth is the country going to afford this.

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 18>He's only been in the office twenty four hours Peter,

0:38:20.400 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 18>and people are already concerned by his agenda that he's pushing.

0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 15>Just quickly.

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:31.280
<v Speaker 2>The man accused of murdering Conservative politician and Whittikin appeared

0:38:31.320 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 2>in court pretty gruesome details, the prosecutor saying she was

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.560
<v Speaker 2>just at home having lunch. He came in the front door.

0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 2>He allegedly struck her to the head more than twenty

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.839
<v Speaker 2>one times with a hammer. We know, of course she died.

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:49.560
<v Speaker 2>There's implications here, isn't there in terms of political security

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>for sorry, security for political leaders, particularly given there is

0:38:55.400 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>a view that he was from the left and he

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 2>was attacking her because she was from the And police

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 2>have been pretty slow to provide information to the public.

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.959
<v Speaker 18>They have Peter, and they have been criticized for giving

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.560
<v Speaker 18>out information that has proven correct and they've had to

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 18>come back and correct some of the information that they

0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 18>were putting out. But this is incredibly concerning. In the UK,

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:22.880
<v Speaker 18>politicians are on high alert. They're worried about these political

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.439
<v Speaker 18>attacks and it has ramped up the debate of whether

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 18>or not all politicians should have security, and we know

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.480
<v Speaker 18>that is one of the critical points that reform UK.

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 18>Nigel Frage, the leader of Reform UK has been banging

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 18>on about saying that he needs proper security and that's

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 18>why he accepted that five million pound donation for security. Peter,

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<v Speaker 18>this is a very very debate that's really making a

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<v Speaker 18>lot of headlines here, very controversial and incredibly distressing of

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<v Speaker 18>what happened to Anne Whittikom.

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<v Speaker 2>I enjoy the games even if the Glaswegians don't on

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<v Speaker 2>that on the coin of the Victorian taxpayer, Sophie elsewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. After the break, just what was the Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister doing at a reportedly one million dollar lavish dinner

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<v Speaker 2>at Point Piper on Monday night? Plus Barnaby's dog interview,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that barking dog into fifth Let's go on

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<v Speaker 2>Global the Wednesday Panel after the break right now to

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanize. He's lavish Point Pipe and dinner reportedly with

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<v Speaker 2>Felix Lee, the son of a Chinese developer, and joined

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<v Speaker 2>by Commonwealth Bank CEO Matt Common alongside the former Victorian Premier,

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<v Speaker 2>a great mate of Beijing, as you know, Dan Andrews

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<v Speaker 2>here to discuss this and more. My panel One Nation

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<v Speaker 2>Chief of Stuff James Ashby and Liberal MP for Barker

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Passen will barker Haha. I'll get to that one

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<v Speaker 2>in a moment with you, Tony Pod to see you

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<v Speaker 2>too after that boating accident in Tasmania last week. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pleased to know that you and your staff are back.

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<v Speaker 2>Condec James Ashby this lavviage Beijing connected Chinese shin dig

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<v Speaker 2>with the Prime Minister, but your boss she can't catch

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<v Speaker 2>up with Gina Reinhart. How's this all okay?

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<v Speaker 20>Well, as we know, do as I say, not as

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<v Speaker 20>I do. That's Labour's motto.

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<v Speaker 10>And you're right.

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<v Speaker 20>Look, we all know in politics somebody who's got a

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<v Speaker 20>couple of bucks, there's no doubt about that. But Anthony

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<v Speaker 20>Alberzi says that anyone other than Labor can't mingle with them.

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<v Speaker 20>And then this instance, he's commanded one million dollars to

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<v Speaker 20>meet with a Chinese billionaire son. And look, if you

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<v Speaker 20>ask men, you ask most Victorians. If it involves Dan Andrews,

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<v Speaker 20>it's a bad night. It's a bad deal for Australia.

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<v Speaker 20>But look, it just demonstrates why Matt Coleman from the

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<v Speaker 20>Komorf Bank seems to be really backing Grim Jim's policies.

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<v Speaker 20>The budget. You know when you see Anthony Albernesi mixing

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<v Speaker 20>with the elites, it's bad news for Australia. And I

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<v Speaker 20>might just add too. In a recent Yougove poll, the

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<v Speaker 20>Labor Party seemed to be more representative of the wealthy

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<v Speaker 20>people in this country at thirty three percent of wealthy

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<v Speaker 20>people will back Labor these days. It's the biggest cohort

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<v Speaker 20>of wealthy people that have ever backed labor, whereas One

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<v Speaker 20>Nation we backed the battlers.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a colleague at One Nation, James Barnaby Joyce. He

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<v Speaker 2>was leading the news in the UK's Independent and The Telegraph,

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<v Speaker 2>Al Jazeera, Half Post, the Daily Beast, segn En. It

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<v Speaker 2>went absolutely everywhere out today. Barnaby gave a response to

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<v Speaker 2>that interview on the seven thirty report.

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<v Speaker 15>Have listened.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we've got the grab anyway. He gave

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<v Speaker 2>a response saying it's a working dog. Hasn't anybody ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen a working dog? And I say to you, Tony Passen, well,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly ninety percent of the media they've never in a paddock,

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<v Speaker 2>have they clearly not?

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<v Speaker 17>Peter, and thank you for your comments about the Testimanian incident.

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<v Speaker 17>I'm back and recovering and my staff has undergone surgery.

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:12.160
<v Speaker 17>He's back and they're saying his prognosis is good, but

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<v Speaker 17>my thoughts are still with him. Look, I was just

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<v Speaker 17>gobsmacked at the reaction. My family run two thousand or so.

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<v Speaker 17>First crush us working dogs or something I've grown up around,

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<v Speaker 17>and clearly we've now seen manifest in the media the

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<v Speaker 17>dichotomy between those people that live in the city and

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<v Speaker 17>those people that live in the country, and one of

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<v Speaker 17>the institutions we used to be able to rely on

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<v Speaker 17>to help bridge that gap, namely the ABC, is now

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<v Speaker 17>not bridging that gap, it's exacerbating it. Working dogs are

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<v Speaker 17>treated like.

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<v Speaker 2>Seeing I dogs.

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<v Speaker 17>They're not to be patted, they're not to be played with.

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<v Speaker 17>They're there to do a job. They take instruction, they

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<v Speaker 17>take firm instruction. If they're doing the wrong thing, they

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<v Speaker 17>take very firm instruction. Safety measure more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 17>And that's what Barnaby was doing. I think he was

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<v Speaker 17>relapsing from federal political interviewee to a rural residence and

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:15.359
<v Speaker 17>farmer man. That was just that kind of moment in time,

0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:23.000
<v Speaker 17>and quite frankly to see the reaction and everyone saying,

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<v Speaker 17>thank goodness, they're not around wearing the shipyards.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I made the point last night there was not

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<v Speaker 2>an expladi from Barnaby. I grew up with a dad

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<v Speaker 2>who loved it expladive in the paddocks. So I think

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<v Speaker 2>you can James, you can all rest happy at one

0:44:36.080 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 2>nation that it was all nice and clean on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I get a reaction from you. There's been outraged

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<v Speaker 2>today about comments your boss made in relation to domestic violence.

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<v Speaker 2>What have you got to say there?

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<v Speaker 20>Well, I think Paula made it very clear when people

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.759
<v Speaker 20>listen to things in context, and if you have a

0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:55.919
<v Speaker 20>listened to the whole interview on four VC with Gary

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 20>Hargraves as I did, she made it very clear she

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<v Speaker 20>doesn't accept domestic violence is an acceptable thing for anyone

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<v Speaker 20>to put up with. But as she was trying to say,

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<v Speaker 20>there is an element of domestic violence that comes not

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<v Speaker 20>just from men. We recognize that it's the largest cohort

0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 20>come from men, but there is a cohort too that

0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:16.360
<v Speaker 20>comes from women. And she's saying communication has failed in

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<v Speaker 20>Australia and with the pressures that so many households are under,

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 20>domestic violence is not acceptable, whether it be from a

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:26.360
<v Speaker 20>man or a woman, And she also said if you

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<v Speaker 20>feel threatened in any way, shape or form, get out

0:45:29.200 --> 0:45:31.960
<v Speaker 20>of it. She's been in those scenarios herself as a

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<v Speaker 20>woman and as a mother, and she got herself and

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<v Speaker 20>the kids out of that environment. So look, let's not

0:45:37.320 --> 0:45:39.200
<v Speaker 20>play this up. I know that there's plenty of people

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 20>within the media that love to get the five second

0:45:42.239 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 20>clip rather than take the full thirty second clip. And

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<v Speaker 20>I think the media have a little bit of responsibility

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<v Speaker 20>to take here because she wasn't playing down domestic violence.

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<v Speaker 20>It's serious across this country and one nation take it serious.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you write this, tho, she's got a family

0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 2>history of her own there. So again, this is why

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to put it to you straight and thank

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<v Speaker 2>you for that, Tony. You're a South Australian MP of course,

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<v Speaker 2>so Leah blives. She's in the Senate now, but before

0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 2>she went to the Senate as she was elected party

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<v Speaker 2>president in essay and she's just winding out of that role.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to an interview she gave today that says

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<v Speaker 2>she said she won't run for that job again because

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to be absolutely focused on the work that

0:46:22.480 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>the voters elected her to do. Now Alexantik this talk

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<v Speaker 2>that he's going to run, that he's got the numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't that rule him out as well?

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<v Speaker 12>Not in my view, Peter.

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<v Speaker 17>I mean members of Parliament how often have parallel responsibilities,

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:42.560
<v Speaker 17>and in Alex's case, is an incredibly competent, capable individual.

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<v Speaker 17>And if he wants to walk and chew gum at

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<v Speaker 17>the same time, and most importantly, if the members of

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<v Speaker 17>the South Australian State Council want him to serve as president,

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<v Speaker 17>then that's a matter for them. It's not a matter

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<v Speaker 17>for anyone else. And whilst I respect Lee's views, I

0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:00.719
<v Speaker 17>don't think it should act as a a bard of

0:47:00.840 --> 0:47:05.520
<v Speaker 17>Alex putting his hand up and ultimately or potentially being

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<v Speaker 17>supported by South Astralian Liberal members.

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<v Speaker 2>All Right, leave it there, James. I'll talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>next week. We're getting very close to that Victorian election.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know who your leader is and I haven't

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>seen any candidates in Victorious, so i'll give you a

0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 2>bit of notice next week. We won't get into that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you to you both, Thank you to you both.

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<v Speaker 2>Plenty of words to get through after break, kel Ches,

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<v Speaker 2>I've missed him. I know you've still had in my

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.080
<v Speaker 2>eye was away and I've absolutely missed him, He joins me. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>kel Richards for words of the week. Of course, it's Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some good ones, phrases and words. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a phrase from Walter. He wants to know the meeting

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<v Speaker 2>and the origin of the term his nibs.

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<v Speaker 10>We use his nibs as a mildly derisive sort of

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<v Speaker 10>name to give to someone who suffers a bit from

0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:59.799
<v Speaker 10>self importance. And the oxpord goes back to about eight

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<v Speaker 10>and twenty, but probably that's the earliest time it's recorded,

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:04.719
<v Speaker 10>but probably was in the spoken language for a long

0:48:04.760 --> 0:48:08.839
<v Speaker 10>time before that. The Oxford says nibs is actually an

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:12.279
<v Speaker 10>alterational corruption of noob, and nob was a word used

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:14.879
<v Speaker 10>for a snob or self important person for a long time.

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<v Speaker 8>Now.

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<v Speaker 10>The reason why nob was used is partly that it

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:23.120
<v Speaker 10>was an abbreviation of noble nobility, and partly because nob

0:48:23.200 --> 0:48:25.640
<v Speaker 10>was an old saying word in England for your head.

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<v Speaker 10>So if you had your head stuck up in the air,

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<v Speaker 10>you were a snob, right, And so all you need

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 10>to do is change the middle syllable the vowel in

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.520
<v Speaker 10>the middle, and you get his nibs. And it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's go to take a punt, Jeffrey says.

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<v Speaker 2>The origin of this phrase? Has it got anything to

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<v Speaker 2>do with the boats, you know, the punt boats that

0:48:45.600 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 2>you propel along with a pole, particularly in the UK.

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<v Speaker 17>No, no, it hasn't.

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<v Speaker 10>Two words here, they're called hominym's different stories, different meanings.

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<v Speaker 10>The punt meaning a boat comes from the Latin word

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.720
<v Speaker 10>for a flat bottom boat. We get pontoon the same source,

0:49:01.000 --> 0:49:05.440
<v Speaker 10>but punt meaning taking a bet seems Australian. It's recorded

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<v Speaker 10>here before it's recorded anywhere else. First appears in nineteen

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<v Speaker 10>sixty five in a wonderful Little book by John O'Grady

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<v Speaker 10>calls Zing English, although it would have been spoken around

0:49:14.520 --> 0:49:16.800
<v Speaker 10>for a long time before that. It seems to have

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.879
<v Speaker 10>a French origin. There's a French word for a punt

0:49:20.000 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 10>or punt, which meant a gambler who bets against the house.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 10>And behind that is a French word I think pronounced punterie,

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<v Speaker 10>meaning to lay an egg. So betting against the house

0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 10>was always seen as being a very fragile thing to do,

0:49:33.600 --> 0:49:36.480
<v Speaker 10>and somehow that idea came to Australia. We adopted it

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:38.839
<v Speaker 10>and we started using punt to mean having a bet

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<v Speaker 10>on anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm not sure we've got time, toll, poppy or

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<v Speaker 2>Stockholm syndrome? Can we get any of those in?

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:52.840
<v Speaker 10>I can get in Stockholm syndrome? It says there's captives

0:49:52.840 --> 0:49:55.880
<v Speaker 10>who come to rule late and like and identify with

0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:58.720
<v Speaker 10>their cat toors. And it goes to a bank robbery

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:02.800
<v Speaker 10>in Stockholm in nineteen seventy three, where four bank staff

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 10>members were held captive for six days and ended up

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 10>being on side with the robbers. The question was, doesn't

0:50:09.040 --> 0:50:12.040
<v Speaker 10>account for our current situation? Possibly the thirty percent of

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 10>Australians who still want to vote labor the Stockholm syndrome

0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 10>they've come to love. They all right, I don't know,

0:50:19.360 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 10>we'll do.

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<v Speaker 2>The others next week. Thank you, Cal, great to have

0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 2>you back. That's it for me. Thank you for your

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 2>company up next and your bolt