Speaker 1: Visploy Report.
Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the Royal Report. I'm Caroline de Russo,
Speaker 2: coming up on the show tonight. And the world continues
Speaker 2: to react to Mega's Netflix series, and not in a
Speaker 2: good way. Prince William and Princess Catherine throw their support
Speaker 2: behind opposing sides at the Wales by England six Nations
Speaker 2: match and Jabrits have the right to protest the monarchy.
Speaker 3: Rale editor of The.
Speaker 2: Daily Mirror, Russell Myers joins me to discuss that later
Speaker 2: in the show, but first, I feel like the Royal
Speaker 2: Family has its groove back after a tumultuous twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: It seems that everything has calmed and writed itself, and
Speaker 2: that's no criticism, it's just an observation. I'm still surprised
Speaker 2: they managed to achieve as much as they did last year,
Speaker 2: but the strain and the threadbare nature of the working
Speaker 2: Royal cohort was absolutely evident and there's no point pretending otherwise.
Speaker 2: But this year the Royal Family has routine vigor. There
Speaker 2: are smiles and it appears that there's finally a consistent
Speaker 2: strategy in how the Royal Family engages and presents itself
Speaker 2: and to be honest, it makes for a really good content.
Speaker 2: This week, William did a rare interview where he spoke
Speaker 2: about his relationship with David Beckham and his love for
Speaker 2: Aston Villa and the King Well. He practiced CPR.
Speaker 1: Ten eleventh, twelve, thirteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Sixteen, and he released his favorite playlist which included our
Speaker 2: very own Carl Minogue, as he launched the King's Music
Speaker 2: Room podcast. This will no doubt follow on nicely from
Speaker 2: the Queen's Reading Room initiative. On the more usual side
Speaker 2: of things, the family acknowledged Commonwealth Day. So this week
Speaker 2: has been a great mix of the traditional and the novel,
Speaker 2: the formal and the relatable, and all with great focus
Speaker 2: and energy. I'm sure they may be a smaller and
Speaker 2: lana Royal family, but they are well and truly back
Speaker 2: at their best. Joining me now is a Daily Express
Speaker 2: role report of Pandora Foresight and news Coop columnist Angela
Speaker 2: Mollard Pandora, The Prince Loves He's Football. From an engagement perspective,
Speaker 2: how important is the message at these sins.
Speaker 3: Well, it's every man's sport here in the UK.
Speaker 4: It's been around for god knows how long, and it's
Speaker 4: so relatable to everybody from every different part of society really,
Speaker 4: and the fact is he is supporting a team which
Speaker 4: isn't Chelsea one of the really really big clubs. And
Speaker 4: he did say that when he was at school he said,
Speaker 4: actually listening to my peers, I wanted to not be
Speaker 4: a sheep, which actually I think is quite reflective of
Speaker 4: how he is in his adult life and especially now
Speaker 4: in the.
Speaker 3: Position that he's in. So that was really interesting.
Speaker 4: And he also makes sure that when his kids are
Speaker 4: at home, he will ensure that they sit in front
Speaker 4: of the TV and watch it, and he really does
Speaker 4: hope that his son, one day, George is going to
Speaker 4: ensure that he does go there and watch it with him,
Speaker 4: and he has on a couple of occasions. Now he's
Speaker 4: a bit older and he can sit there for a
Speaker 4: full match, which is quite a bit of time, and
Speaker 4: also with cameras on him. But we did see some
Speaker 4: fantastic imagery of him in the last couple of weeks
Speaker 4: where he was sat there and he did get really
Speaker 4: enthused by it. So no, that was brilliant to see.
Speaker 4: And also I suppose for him, like any sport and
Speaker 4: you're really into it, gives you time to completely switch off.
Speaker 4: It makes you so much more relatable, it gives you
Speaker 4: a topic to speak about. And of course now he's
Speaker 4: got David Beckham on side where they get to text
Speaker 4: each other if he ever needs him to go to
Speaker 4: an event or anything for him now that he is
Speaker 4: an ambassador of the King's Foundation, and anybody in the
Speaker 4: UK knows how much of a huge legend David Beckham is.
Speaker 4: I mean he is quite literally the people's royalty outside
Speaker 4: of the royal family. So this is such a great
Speaker 4: friendship and I do generally think it is a friendship.
Speaker 3: Between them both.
Speaker 4: So yeah, extremely relatable and I guess another bow to
Speaker 4: William's public viewing image, I suppose, and how he is
Speaker 4: just getting it right at the moment.
Speaker 3: As you said at the start of the.
Speaker 4: Program, Caroline, they are just understanding the public and this
Speaker 4: year is no exception.
Speaker 2: And Angela, I think the King has just kicked off
Speaker 2: the year with the bang. We're the middle of March,
Speaker 2: but I feel like he's really molding himself into the
Speaker 2: sort of king he wants to be. He's got the
Speaker 2: fundamentals right, but he's also having a bit of fun.
Speaker 2: I think that's really important. Oh, I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5: He's everything just in the last couple of weeks, from
Speaker 5: global peacemaker to Kylie Minogue fan. You know, his Apple
Speaker 5: playlist is at the top of Apple Music's charts at
Speaker 5: the moment, which I think is really interesting. Why I
Speaker 5: think the question is why The key is we don't
Speaker 5: know if he's cured from cancer, if he's going to
Speaker 5: be cured from or he's going to live with cancer.
Speaker 5: Unlike Kate who has said that she is in remission,
Speaker 5: we have had no updates on his condition recently, and
Speaker 5: certainly there's been nothing saying that he has cured from it.
Speaker 5: So if indeed he is living with cancer and will
Speaker 5: continue to live with cancer, then I think he's very
Speaker 5: much leaning into what he sees as his legacy eraror
Speaker 5: what is this going to stand for? Is it going
Speaker 5: to be fun?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 5: Is he going to enjoy these years he came to
Speaker 5: the crown late He's now a seventy six year old man.
Speaker 5: What is he going to do? I think he's very
Speaker 5: much distinguishing himself from the late queen by being a
Speaker 5: hands on monarch. His interests are varied, you know, from
Speaker 5: music to climate to health, all sorts of issues and
Speaker 5: of course that Commonwealth Day Service where this is one
Speaker 5: of the key jobs of being monarch is bringing the
Speaker 5: Commonwealth together. And I think he is doing an exemplary job,
Speaker 5: as you say.
Speaker 2: Now another shock of a wake for Megan following the
Speaker 2: release of him Netflix series. This was the reaction on
Speaker 2: goggle Box Megan as in Meghan Markle, that's the one
Speaker 2: I don't like her. Now is this seriously her house?
Speaker 3: Hmm? Yeah, I assume, so this isn't my house. Wait
Speaker 3: what it's not even her house.
Speaker 2: It's not her house.
Speaker 4: Making candles out of bees wax from her own beehives.
Speaker 1: It's not her beehives.
Speaker 2: And while the candles set.
Speaker 3: Let's go make a beautiful cake. Oh my godness, get cake.
Speaker 2: What the hell do you know.
Speaker 1: What she's having? She's having a crafternoon. Do you reckon?
Speaker 3: You'd pay one hundred million for this?
Speaker 2: That's going to go on all the layers in between.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this girl's exhausting. Wasn't just here In Australia,
Speaker 2: Talk TV also waited in with some satire.
Speaker 3: Welcome to my beautiful home.
Speaker 2: What do you mean it's not my home?
Speaker 1: Every morning I picked beautiful flowers from my beautiful garden,
Speaker 1: and I feed them to my beautiful children. So what
Speaker 1: if you haven't got a fucking garden. I haven't really
Speaker 1: got any children. Bees get me out of this soon. Now.
Speaker 1: I've always loved taking something pretty ordinary and elevating it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: Like my husband.
Speaker 1: It's so funny that people keep calling me Meghan Markle
Speaker 1: because it's Meghan Sussex now.
Speaker 4: Megan in Sussex, God Sussex, Megan Goid.
Speaker 2: Sussex Pendora, a bit uncouth. And while things have calmed
Speaker 2: down somewhat, the commentary continues. It just doesn't seem to
Speaker 2: be improving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't. I think she's kind of done a
Speaker 4: bit of an own goal here. She has to be
Speaker 4: open to criticism and commentary when she is going to
Speaker 4: be mixing in Hollywood and Netflix series unfortunately, and that
Speaker 4: is just something she's going to have to deal with
Speaker 4: and her team are going to have to deal with.
Speaker 4: She has opened herself up now to verging into the
Speaker 4: Hollywood era of Meghan, which I think is great. She's
Speaker 4: not slamming the Raw family as she is in this
Speaker 4: Oprah interview, which we've spoken about a few times. So
Speaker 4: I think she's getting it right. She's on the right track.
Speaker 4: But unfortunately how she has been advised, or perhaps the
Speaker 4: road which she is comfortable going down is not one
Speaker 4: which is very relatable to the ordinary person. As you
Speaker 4: said last week, Caroline, you know, is having bees in
Speaker 4: your garden with a beehive very relatable?
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 4: Are people going to have the time where they're working
Speaker 4: mums to be able to create bedside platters almost for
Speaker 4: their guests if they're lucky enough to have a guest bedroom, No,
Speaker 4: it's not. So she has to be open to this.
Speaker 4: But also she did confirm that there is a second
Speaker 4: series of this. But one thing I would question with
Speaker 4: that is was this second series already pre agreed by
Speaker 4: Netflix or is this just a PR spin to say, oh,
Speaker 4: because it's been so successful within the first few days,
Speaker 4: I've guaranteed a new Netflix series on.
Speaker 3: Top of this one. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 4: I would question that, But what I would say is
Speaker 4: that we're still speaking about it. So if her PR
Speaker 4: strategy is let's get headlines, doesn't matter what they are, well,
Speaker 4: then she's successful if she can ignore all the negative
Speaker 4: commentary surrounding that.
Speaker 2: I think that's an excellent observation, and I would love
Speaker 2: to see whether that second series makes it. But one
Speaker 2: royal observer with a very very keen eye picked this up.
Speaker 2: It nearly lost my name. I mean, there's the loss
Speaker 2: of identity.
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone in the world knows that Megan
Speaker 3: Micale has eaten.
Speaker 2: Jack in the box and loves funny too. Do you
Speaker 2: keep saying, Megan Mokele, you know him Sussex now Angela.
Speaker 2: Meghan shifted around a lot on focus and narrative. She
Speaker 2: was bound to come a cropper at some point, wasn't she.
Speaker 5: She was, And it's not the first time. We know
Speaker 5: in the Opera, Oprah Interview and the Netflix series that
Speaker 5: she will say things and then they will be fact
Speaker 5: checked and they're not accurate. And I think the thing
Speaker 5: with Megan is the first person she needs on the
Speaker 5: payroll is someone to actually fact check. She will have
Speaker 5: had creative control over this, and someone needs to be
Speaker 5: which is what would happen if she was working under
Speaker 5: the palace saying you know you said this back in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two and now you're saying this now now.
Speaker 5: If you want to have credibility then you have to
Speaker 5: be consistent in what your responses are. But the thing
Speaker 5: about Meghan is that she's a shapes shifter, she's a hustler,
Speaker 5: she's always evolving. She's very Hollywood, less royal, so we
Speaker 5: perhaps need to allow her this. She's if she's going
Speaker 5: to be the next Martha Stewart and the next Gwyneth Pultrow,
Speaker 5: then she is going to, like those two women, be divisive,
Speaker 5: as Pandora has said. But look, I didn't mind the series.
Speaker 5: What I mind is when Meghan says one thing and
Speaker 5: has said the other thing. So that disingenuousness is the
Speaker 5: issue I have a problem with.
Speaker 2: And Pandora, we know that she's desperate to be part
Speaker 2: of Hollywood. But even within that in industry, you know
Speaker 2: celebrity chef Jameson Stocks and journalist and biographer Tina Brown,
Speaker 2: who's had something to say before. Both have had a go,
Speaker 2: haven't they.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not been great.
Speaker 4: From a commentary perspective, what I would say is there
Speaker 4: have been a couple of celebrity chefs or well known
Speaker 4: chefs who have looked at it, and they're probably.
Speaker 3: Looking it through a chef's eye.
Speaker 4: I've got to be completely honest with you. But Megan
Speaker 4: has never tried to say that she is a chef.
Speaker 4: But I do know that it does really ryle up
Speaker 4: of chefs when you try and become sort of an
Speaker 4: influencer around cooking, because you've not had the cooking training
Speaker 4: to do this, You've not gone through the school, you've
Speaker 4: not got the grades.
Speaker 3: So I do understand that.
Speaker 4: But again, on the same note, is she harming anybody
Speaker 4: from doing this series? No, it's so light, it's so fluffy,
Speaker 4: and she's not slamming the royals. So ultimately, in my book,
Speaker 4: should she be getting the amount of negative commentary that
Speaker 4: she's getting. No, I don't think it's quite justified. But
Speaker 4: would I say, could she reel back and get a
Speaker 4: little bit more, as Angela noted, perhaps a little bit
Speaker 4: more advice along the way, so that she doesn't trip
Speaker 4: herself as much as she wants to, because there will
Speaker 4: be people who will be scrutinizing absolutely every single word
Speaker 4: Meghan says just to trip her up. And ultimately, this
Speaker 4: is a multimillion pound deal, and I really don't understand
Speaker 4: how people can sort of commission this and get her
Speaker 4: to go ahead with it once it's not being really
Speaker 4: gone over with a fine toothcomb. It's just baffling to me.
Speaker 2: And that's not the end of it. Ather Angela a
Speaker 2: podcast about female founders. What do we know?
Speaker 5: That's right, Megan's got a new podcast. It's every day
Speaker 5: now we get a new Instagram update, don't we. So
Speaker 5: this is recollections of a female founder. She's going to
Speaker 5: be interviewing business women who are at the top of
Speaker 5: their game. Now there's a too pronged interest in this.
Speaker 5: She wanted another podcast series after obviously doing The Archetypes,
Speaker 5: which was generally regarded as a failure. Look, it got
Speaker 5: some viewing, you know, when it started, it was getting
Speaker 5: a million listening figures. But of course Spotify cast her
Speaker 5: and Harry at a Drift that was a twenty.
Speaker 2: Million dollar deal.
Speaker 5: Now Lemonada, who is producing this podcast, there is no
Speaker 5: way that Megan will be being paid anything like that.
Speaker 5: In fact, interestingly, this company did one of my favorite podcasts,
Speaker 5: which is Julia. Louise Dreyfus is wiser than me. So
Speaker 5: I expect high standards from this and actually a very
Speaker 5: good podcast. But I think what's really interesting here is
Speaker 5: there's a synchronicity Finally in Meghan's projects that the as
Speaker 5: Ever Brand, the Netflix show and now the Female Founder,
Speaker 5: they all relate to each other, they all talk to
Speaker 5: each other, and we're seeing what we hope to see
Speaker 5: now is her having some cohesiveness in her working life
Speaker 5: going forward and look, you know, let's see how it happens.
Speaker 5: I'll want to listen to this whether what we have
Speaker 5: to hope that it is not the me me, me
Speaker 5: we which came out from archetypes. She just constantly talked
Speaker 5: about herself.
Speaker 2: Let's hope. Ladies, Angela Mollar Pandora Foresight, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for joining us now coming up Royal leverters of
Speaker 2: The Daily Mirror, Russell Myers reveals how the Royals marked
Speaker 2: this year's Commonwealth Day welcome back and this week the
Speaker 2: Royal family celebrated Commonwealth Day, the day we're being acknowledge
Speaker 2: the association of fifty six independent countries, almost all which
Speaker 2: formed part of the former British Empire, of course, which
Speaker 2: includes a great nation of Australia. And with so much
Speaker 2: angst in the world, it's great to have fifty five
Speaker 2: other good friends spanning the globe joining me now.
Speaker 3: Is Royal Editor for the Daily.
Speaker 2: Mirror, Russell Myers, Russell, the Royal family, we're out in
Speaker 2: force for Commonwealth Day, and what was the King's message?
Speaker 1: You see her? Well, Hi there, Cole Well listen first
Speaker 1: and foremost. It was great to see the King and
Speaker 1: the Princess Wells at this year's Commonwealth Day service because
Speaker 1: obviously they had to miss the last one due to
Speaker 1: being diagnosed individually with cancer just within weeks of each other.
Speaker 1: So great to see them leading the family out in force.
Speaker 1: And it was a message of unity not only with
Speaker 1: the family but of course the fifty six nations that
Speaker 1: have come together to form the Commonwealth, the Family of Nations,
Speaker 1: it's often described are as and certainly you know in
Speaker 1: periods of war and distress. Certainly that's going on in
Speaker 1: Europe and the Middle East at the moment. And the
Speaker 1: King's message was extending beyond the Commonwealth, I think, and
Speaker 1: trying to get people to listen not only to the
Speaker 1: people beside them, but of course to their friends and
Speaker 1: neighbors around the world. And certainly we had the King's
Speaker 1: message this year was all about unity in trouble times
Speaker 1: and when you extend that to the theme of the
Speaker 1: common Wales which was to allow each individual nation to
Speaker 1: thrive on its own. I think we had a very
Speaker 1: rounded message for people coming together this year, and.
Speaker 2: A great unifier obviously for many of those nations is
Speaker 2: the sport of rugby and the Prince and Princess of Wales.
Speaker 2: I love that friendly rivalry they have for the Six Nations.
Speaker 2: We saw it again this week. Tell us about it.
Speaker 1: Well, big big weekend of sport across Europe. Of course,
Speaker 1: it was the finale of the Six Nations. England just
Speaker 1: lost out to France, eventually taking the crown. But there
Speaker 1: was a big, big game between England and Wales to
Speaker 1: try and get England into that pole position. They absolutely
Speaker 1: thrashed Wales. They were on a bit of a losing
Speaker 1: streak and they rode out eventual winners. I think it
Speaker 1: was sixty eight to fifteen fourteen in the end. So
Speaker 1: we of course had the Prince of Wales as the
Speaker 1: patron of the World Rugby Union and Kate as the
Speaker 1: patron of the English team, as well as a bit
Speaker 1: of rivalry within the household. They did attend the match together.
Speaker 1: The England team, being good sports, invited the Prince of
Speaker 1: Wales even into the dressing room to meet them after
Speaker 1: the game, when the Princess of Wales went down to
Speaker 1: see them. So I think, you know, great to see
Speaker 1: the Princess of Wales out in force again. And we're
Speaker 1: going to have a few more of these joint engagements
Speaker 1: this year because as Kate is finding her way back
Speaker 1: to duties after her cancer treatment, I expected that there
Speaker 1: would be a bit more sort of a support around
Speaker 1: the family network for her to get back to work.
Speaker 2: And she looked like she was having fun. Even at
Speaker 2: Commonwealth Day. She looked very happy and all smiles and
Speaker 2: great energy and I think that that is but it's
Speaker 2: been great to say for the beginning of this year.
Speaker 2: Now you'll recall the anti monarchy protests around the time
Speaker 2: that Charles ascended the throne. In one of those instances,
Speaker 2: it's been found the police acted unlawfully. So what was
Speaker 2: the reasoning here and what's the broader issue?
Speaker 1: Well, of course a broader issue is the right to protests,
Speaker 1: and I think that we're seeing this more with Charles
Speaker 1: his reign. Certainly it's something that hasn't really phased him.
Speaker 1: But a republic, the anti monarchy group has grown in
Speaker 1: numbers and they have grown in voice since Charles acceded
Speaker 1: the throne, and this harks back to September twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: when the Late Queen I had passed away. Charles has
Speaker 1: sended the throne and there was a small protest going
Speaker 1: outside Saint James's Palace in London at the time, and
Speaker 1: a chat called Simon Hill, a trainee Baptist minister at
Speaker 1: the time, just walked past and said who elected him?
Speaker 1: And one of the police officers heard it and he
Speaker 1: was duly arrested and charged with obscene behead threatening behavior,
Speaker 1: which seems kind of ludicrous. You know, when you ever
Speaker 1: speak to to Charles in these moments, whether it's been
Speaker 1: members of the Commonwealth or people's right to protest, he's
Speaker 1: always said privately that people should be allowed to express
Speaker 1: their voice. And I think there have been several instances
Speaker 1: in the police's mind where they have been heavy handed
Speaker 1: with arresting people. We saw it during the coronation. They
Speaker 1: didn't want any disturbances. But Simon Hill has been apologized
Speaker 1: to by the Met Police and he's received two and
Speaker 1: a half thousand pounds compensation, so possibly a lesson for
Speaker 1: the police to not be so heavy handed. With these protesters,
Speaker 1: we're just expressing their right to protest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look for the protest that they were from
Speaker 2: my recollection, they were not violent or anything of that nature.
Speaker 2: There may have been others, but I didn't see them.
Speaker 2: But you know, we do have that sort of liberty.
Speaker 2: We do have the right to protest, and if it's
Speaker 2: not violent, I don't see why it should be an issue. Now.
Speaker 2: Still with the King, and look, he has been very
Speaker 2: skillfully engaged in recent weeks, and we have spoken of
Speaker 2: this in that soft diplomacy, particularly visa a Trump. He's
Speaker 2: come out in defense of the Canadians this week, which
Speaker 2: is not surprising at all.
Speaker 1: Really, well, no, of course he is a cook, of
Speaker 1: course king of Canada as he is King of Australia,
Speaker 1: and he's very got vested interests in the relationship between
Speaker 1: Canada and the US. And hinderbox it's been at the
Speaker 1: moment with Donald Trump firing off insults left, right and
Speaker 1: center to his Canadian neighbors, calling it to you know,
Speaker 1: the potential fifty first state of the United States, talking
Speaker 1: about the potential annexation of Canada. And this is very,
Speaker 1: very troubling. Not only two Canadians but also to the
Speaker 1: King as well. We saw King Charles meet Justin Trudeau,
Speaker 1: the outgoing Prime Minister of Canada, just a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago at Sandringham, and this week he was presenting
Speaker 1: a ceremonial sword to black Rods, which is part of
Speaker 1: his ceremonial duties as sovereign, and he was talking about
Speaker 1: the pressing matters which are interest to both parties. Royal
Speaker 1: sources were telling me that of course that would have
Speaker 1: involved the conversations between Donald Trump and Canada have called.
Speaker 1: Canada has a new Prime minister in Mark Carley, so
Speaker 1: it'd be very interesting to see the dynamic between the
Speaker 1: two men moving forward, something that King Charles is going
Speaker 1: to take very very seriously. He's got a trip planned
Speaker 1: their next year which will go hand in hand with
Speaker 1: a royal talk to the United States. So I guess
Speaker 1: that anything can happen. And certainly when Donald Trump is speaking,
Speaker 1: we're finding new things that he's angered about day to day,
Speaker 1: so I think there's something. The British government and King
Speaker 1: Charles will watch the situation very closely.
Speaker 2: I think they will, and I believe the Canadians ad
Speaker 2: for a general election towards the end of the year,
Speaker 2: so it will be interesting to see how that issue
Speaker 2: feeds into that election. Now on to the races, and
Speaker 2: it was like a royal family reunion this week at Cheltenham.
Speaker 1: What can you tell us, Well, it was Chiltenham, great
Speaker 1: fantastic race meet here in the UK. It brings out
Speaker 1: all the sort of celebrities and then people from the
Speaker 1: sporting world, fantastic festival of racing to experience by the
Speaker 1: royals as well. We saw the Queen there worked with
Speaker 1: some friends and her Rex's husband as well, big big
Speaker 1: horse racing fan Andrew Parker Bowles. We saw Zara Tindall
Speaker 1: there and caused Princess Anne was mixing with some friends
Speaker 1: and family as well, and it's going to give you this.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this period of time because it gives the
Speaker 1: royals a chance to sort of relax before the busy
Speaker 1: spring period. Of course, we've got the King and Queen
Speaker 1: off to Italy in just a couple of weeks. That
Speaker 1: tour should be shaping up nicely. Apart from, of course,
Speaker 1: the Pope Frances his illness, which will possibly mean that
Speaker 1: mean that the King and Queen do not have an
Speaker 1: audience with the Pope. So I imagine we'll find some
Speaker 1: more in the coming days than that. But in terms
Speaker 1: of Cheltenham, great, fantastic, fantastic, see the roles out and
Speaker 1: looking forward to a pat spring schedule here in Europe.
Speaker 2: And lastly, I've only got about a mina. But Dane Perleith,
Speaker 2: former judge of the Great British Bake Off, she's no
Speaker 2: fan of the Duchess of Sussex. What does she have
Speaker 2: to say?
Speaker 1: Well, I think that's pretty mildly Caroline, because she is
Speaker 1: not a fan. I mean some people, some people are,
Speaker 1: some people aren't. And certainly Meghan's new show with Love
Speaker 1: Meghan has been very very divisive, hasn't it. But Brually,
Speaker 1: you know, the baking goddess of our screens, has has
Speaker 1: said that she's not a fan of Meghan. She says
Speaker 1: she didn't really get the sort of touchy feely broadcasting
Speaker 1: nature of her show. She didn't think that it was
Speaker 1: altogether watchable television to just talk about what you enjoy
Speaker 1: doing with your friends. And I guess it has been
Speaker 1: pretty divisive for Meghan show, hasn't it. Whether you like
Speaker 1: it or whether you load that people are talking about it.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's just what Meghan and Netflix wanted. They're bringing
Speaker 1: it back for a second season that was recorded alongside
Speaker 1: the first, so let's see and well, let's wait and
Speaker 1: see what the ratings do, because you know, Meghan is
Speaker 1: a sort of towarder force at the moment with her
Speaker 1: show and with her new podcast, so I suppose, you know,
Speaker 1: people are still talking about her, so and that's that's
Speaker 1: that's got to be good for her.
Speaker 2: And well, we are definitely talking about it. Thank you
Speaker 2: so much, Russ and Myers. And that's the show for tonight,
Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Up next, he's Newsnight.