1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:13,081 Speaker 1: Apologie Production. I'm Mickey Fisher, and welcome to the Village 2 00:00:13,081 --> 00:00:16,681 Speaker 1: Crazy Lady. People are talking to me and they are 3 00:00:16,721 --> 00:00:20,361 Speaker 1: not physically in this room, so to just strap in 4 00:00:20,401 --> 00:00:23,081 Speaker 1: for that. Can't call me crazy, So I said it first. 5 00:00:23,241 --> 00:00:26,081 Speaker 1: Whoever's try to come through whatever messages need to come through, like, 6 00:00:26,161 --> 00:00:29,881 Speaker 1: just bring it on, Let's do it Crazy Crazy Crazy 7 00:00:30,201 --> 00:00:36,041 Speaker 1: the Village Crazy Lay Podcast. Hello, gorgeous legends, and welcome 8 00:00:36,081 --> 00:00:40,001 Speaker 1: to another episode of the Village Crazy Lady. Today. I 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,921 Speaker 1: have a definite Village Crazy Lady in the room with 10 00:00:42,961 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: me or my beautiful auntie Allie Kay, who has come 11 00:00:49,521 --> 00:00:53,081 Speaker 1: on the podcast before, and we chatted about well, you 12 00:00:53,161 --> 00:00:55,681 Speaker 1: chatted about your experience like growing up in the church 13 00:00:55,761 --> 00:01:00,161 Speaker 1: and sort of realizing that you know, you had these 14 00:01:00,641 --> 00:01:02,921 Speaker 1: abilities and more that you just started to really learn 15 00:01:03,001 --> 00:01:06,721 Speaker 1: yourself and understand your intuition and that whole journey and experience, 16 00:01:06,721 --> 00:01:08,321 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of people were listening to 17 00:01:08,361 --> 00:01:12,601 Speaker 1: that and they learned so much from that. Today, I'm 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:17,881 Speaker 1: so excited to chat because you recently how to hysterect me. 19 00:01:18,081 --> 00:01:21,521 Speaker 1: I did, and I really want to talk about one 20 00:01:21,681 --> 00:01:24,961 Speaker 1: like the journey of how you came to that decision 21 00:01:24,961 --> 00:01:29,841 Speaker 1: because obviously you're a spiritual person. You're a reiki teacher, practitioner, master, 22 00:01:30,521 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: and so you understand sort of like you've been on 23 00:01:33,761 --> 00:01:36,921 Speaker 1: the journey of healing it and understanding that part of 24 00:01:36,961 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: you and understanding what was sort of in that space. 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: You've done womb, spiral, womb healings, all of that kind 26 00:01:42,161 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: of thing, which is so fascinating, and I know even 27 00:01:46,401 --> 00:01:49,361 Speaker 1: for a lot of people, they assume that to have 28 00:01:49,401 --> 00:01:51,561 Speaker 1: a womb space, you have to have a womb. But 29 00:01:51,601 --> 00:01:54,081 Speaker 1: then also I want to talk about because before you 30 00:01:54,121 --> 00:01:56,361 Speaker 1: went in for your he directed me a few days before, 31 00:01:56,721 --> 00:02:00,281 Speaker 1: I came over and did a healing and it was 32 00:02:00,401 --> 00:02:05,721 Speaker 1: like the main Oh my god, it was so farking wild. 33 00:02:05,761 --> 00:02:08,961 Speaker 1: I've got goosebumps just thinking about it, Like probably the 34 00:02:09,081 --> 00:02:11,921 Speaker 1: coolest because to me, it wasn't even a healing, it 35 00:02:11,961 --> 00:02:13,921 Speaker 1: was like a ritual. It was like a ceremony. 36 00:02:14,081 --> 00:02:15,041 Speaker 2: It was a ceremony. 37 00:02:15,161 --> 00:02:17,761 Speaker 1: It was a ceremony, and the journey of it was 38 00:02:17,881 --> 00:02:20,321 Speaker 1: so beautiful and so amazing. So I want to talk 39 00:02:20,361 --> 00:02:24,041 Speaker 1: about that, but let's start with like your journey and 40 00:02:24,121 --> 00:02:28,081 Speaker 1: how you got to going. All right, I'm done, let's 41 00:02:28,081 --> 00:02:28,441 Speaker 1: get it out. 42 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,361 Speaker 2: It's good out well, yeah, as you had said, you know, 43 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:35,481 Speaker 2: I've done womb spiral, which was great, and womb healings, 44 00:02:35,481 --> 00:02:38,401 Speaker 2: and I guess, you know, for me that womb space 45 00:02:38,441 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 2: has always been a little bit problematic. I guess you'd say, 46 00:02:41,601 --> 00:02:43,761 Speaker 2: like i'd you know, as a teenager, I never had 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,801 Speaker 2: regular periods. You know, I had to go through IVF 48 00:02:47,201 --> 00:02:50,881 Speaker 2: to have my son, fell pregnant naturally with my daughter, 49 00:02:51,041 --> 00:02:53,481 Speaker 2: but that also came with a lot of health issues 50 00:02:53,641 --> 00:02:57,001 Speaker 2: IVF for me, so I feel like it was great 51 00:02:57,041 --> 00:02:59,761 Speaker 2: because that got me my son and then that then 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,281 Speaker 2: I was able to have you know, full naturally with Olivia. 53 00:03:03,401 --> 00:03:06,561 Speaker 2: But you know, my periods were never something that we're enjoyable, 54 00:03:08,361 --> 00:03:11,361 Speaker 2: not any periods enjoyable. But yeah, people can just go 55 00:03:11,401 --> 00:03:15,321 Speaker 2: through that monthly period and don't have pain, don't have discomfort, 56 00:03:15,441 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: don't have the PMT. And that was a real revelation 57 00:03:18,921 --> 00:03:21,241 Speaker 2: for me when I learned that, I was like, really, like, 58 00:03:21,401 --> 00:03:23,601 Speaker 2: I thought that was just part and Parcel, I thought 59 00:03:23,721 --> 00:03:27,481 Speaker 2: that's just what your path was. So I guess as 60 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: I was more connecting. Fast forwarding to the last few 61 00:03:30,881 --> 00:03:35,961 Speaker 2: years when studied reiki, became spiritually aware of what my 62 00:03:36,041 --> 00:03:42,041 Speaker 2: spiritual needs were really felt at the time, like I thought, 63 00:03:42,721 --> 00:03:46,081 Speaker 2: womb space healings and wals, I thought, you know, that's 64 00:03:46,121 --> 00:03:49,801 Speaker 2: really connected to the pain that I feel. And look 65 00:03:50,681 --> 00:03:55,441 Speaker 2: that none of those things really helped my physical aspects 66 00:03:55,481 --> 00:03:58,321 Speaker 2: of what was happening with in my period, but there 67 00:03:58,441 --> 00:04:01,521 Speaker 2: was just so much healing to be done in my 68 00:04:01,601 --> 00:04:05,081 Speaker 2: womb space. That was just I had no idea. And 69 00:04:05,241 --> 00:04:07,721 Speaker 2: as you do things, you learn more about the ancestral 70 00:04:07,801 --> 00:04:12,881 Speaker 2: side of how much your womb space holds in that 71 00:04:13,001 --> 00:04:16,001 Speaker 2: regards as well. So that was just that was actually 72 00:04:16,081 --> 00:04:17,801 Speaker 2: just such a big learning journey for me. 73 00:04:18,241 --> 00:04:20,041 Speaker 1: What do you think for some of the biggest things 74 00:04:20,041 --> 00:04:23,561 Speaker 1: that you learned, Like on that journey, how much I didn't. 75 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: Like myself and how much that lack of understanding of 76 00:04:28,481 --> 00:04:31,241 Speaker 2: myself was in my womb space, and how much of 77 00:04:31,281 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: that was generational, Like yeah, it all just and how 78 00:04:36,401 --> 00:04:41,121 Speaker 2: much of that when your birth comes with you like 79 00:04:41,281 --> 00:04:44,481 Speaker 2: that is that just I ha didn't know that, Like 80 00:04:44,561 --> 00:04:47,201 Speaker 2: it was just nothing that I understood. So I did 81 00:04:47,201 --> 00:04:50,161 Speaker 2: all the womb healings and did all of that. Really 82 00:04:50,241 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: kind of kept getting this voice in my head that 83 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,601 Speaker 2: kept saying, it needs to go, it needs to go, 84 00:04:55,841 --> 00:04:57,761 Speaker 2: it needs to go, and I'll be like, now it 85 00:04:57,801 --> 00:05:00,521 Speaker 2: does not like, no, I'm so close to menopause and 86 00:05:01,041 --> 00:05:03,641 Speaker 2: no way, Like I'm a healer. I can heal myself 87 00:05:03,681 --> 00:05:05,361 Speaker 2: and I can go to other people and I have 88 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,041 Speaker 2: this healed. It's fine. Like I'm such a sensitive body, 89 00:05:09,401 --> 00:05:11,201 Speaker 2: I can't go through an operation. Why would I do 90 00:05:11,241 --> 00:05:14,961 Speaker 2: something so drastic? And then I think the more I did, 91 00:05:15,281 --> 00:05:17,281 Speaker 2: the more that just kept coming to the service. The 92 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,761 Speaker 2: more I released, the more I let go. That voice 93 00:05:21,841 --> 00:05:24,681 Speaker 2: was so strong. Wow, it has to go. 94 00:05:24,761 --> 00:05:25,401 Speaker 1: It has to go. 95 00:05:26,161 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: And so that's when I kind of started investigating. I 96 00:05:29,801 --> 00:05:32,361 Speaker 2: started seeing a few different doctors, found the doctor I 97 00:05:32,681 --> 00:05:36,641 Speaker 2: liked and was able to find my voice, which I 98 00:05:36,681 --> 00:05:38,361 Speaker 2: wouldn't have been able to do a few years ago. 99 00:05:39,001 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: It's almost like there's so much that I guess we 100 00:05:41,681 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: can do. You know, you do the spiritual healing, the 101 00:05:44,521 --> 00:05:48,121 Speaker 1: energetic healing, the understanding, the ancestral thing that which is 102 00:05:48,161 --> 00:05:52,401 Speaker 1: so important because it gives you so much knowledge and understanding. 103 00:05:52,681 --> 00:05:55,561 Speaker 1: But I think people sometimes forget, especially when you're on 104 00:05:55,601 --> 00:05:59,041 Speaker 1: the spiritual journey and you're like in this world, you 105 00:05:59,121 --> 00:06:02,161 Speaker 1: forget that there's so much that can be, like the 106 00:06:02,161 --> 00:06:07,001 Speaker 1: physical side of things and the the evolutionary side of things, 107 00:06:07,241 --> 00:06:11,961 Speaker 1: you know, the ability to have a hysterectomy, Yeah, has 108 00:06:12,041 --> 00:06:15,401 Speaker 1: so much power in it also, as you said, getting 109 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,001 Speaker 1: a choice, getting to use your voice. 110 00:06:18,961 --> 00:06:21,801 Speaker 2: Yes, and for once actually saying this is what I 111 00:06:21,841 --> 00:06:24,441 Speaker 2: want and this is what my body needs. And why 112 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,201 Speaker 2: do you think that? Because I know, because I know 113 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,681 Speaker 2: I've been told it's done. I know my body so well, 114 00:06:30,721 --> 00:06:33,801 Speaker 2: I know it's so intimately well now, Yeah, through all 115 00:06:33,841 --> 00:06:36,921 Speaker 2: of those healings and through Reki, and Reki has just 116 00:06:36,961 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 2: been such an integral part of this, the whole process 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,041 Speaker 2: from since when I've made the decision to have the hysterectomy. 118 00:06:44,401 --> 00:06:46,401 Speaker 2: And of course you know, I'm so impatient. I wanted 119 00:06:46,401 --> 00:06:48,281 Speaker 2: it done yesterday, Like I was like, man, can't you 120 00:06:48,281 --> 00:06:49,121 Speaker 2: fit me in next week? 121 00:06:49,201 --> 00:06:50,521 Speaker 1: Like you're starting to get this done? 122 00:06:50,641 --> 00:06:54,561 Speaker 2: What I've done, Yeah, it's done. And you know, I 123 00:06:54,561 --> 00:06:56,561 Speaker 2: had to wait three months and that was the best 124 00:06:56,601 --> 00:06:58,681 Speaker 2: thing that could have ever happened, because it gave me 125 00:06:58,841 --> 00:07:04,481 Speaker 2: so much time to really release what I didn't need anymore, 126 00:07:05,401 --> 00:07:09,561 Speaker 2: shifting my womb space into my heart space and putting 127 00:07:09,601 --> 00:07:13,601 Speaker 2: all what needed to go into there. So when my 128 00:07:13,721 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: uter has got taken out, all of that got taken 129 00:07:16,881 --> 00:07:20,001 Speaker 2: out as well. Yeah, it's it was probably it's the 130 00:07:20,041 --> 00:07:21,601 Speaker 2: most powerful thing I've ever done. 131 00:07:21,921 --> 00:07:24,081 Speaker 1: Wow, I love that. That's why I needed you to 132 00:07:24,081 --> 00:07:26,641 Speaker 1: come on so I can talk about it because for that, like, 133 00:07:26,681 --> 00:07:28,401 Speaker 1: it's the most powerful thing I've ever done. And I 134 00:07:28,401 --> 00:07:31,681 Speaker 1: always think, like, even when we're having this conversation, I 135 00:07:31,841 --> 00:07:35,121 Speaker 1: keep seeing the conversation that I've had with Lauren, the 136 00:07:35,321 --> 00:07:39,761 Speaker 1: Spirit Baby communicator who's come on. Yeah, and she said 137 00:07:39,841 --> 00:07:44,481 Speaker 1: that often, especially now, like babies are choosing to come 138 00:07:44,681 --> 00:07:49,681 Speaker 1: through via c section because they're wanting to bypass the 139 00:07:49,761 --> 00:07:54,401 Speaker 1: vaginal canal because they're like these physical parts of us 140 00:07:55,241 --> 00:08:01,241 Speaker 1: have emotional energetic that it's all intertwined in it. And 141 00:08:01,281 --> 00:08:03,481 Speaker 1: when they're coming out of the vaginal canal, they're also 142 00:08:03,681 --> 00:08:06,201 Speaker 1: taking all of the trauma that stored in there with 143 00:08:06,241 --> 00:08:07,921 Speaker 1: them and they're going, no, thank you, I don't want that. 144 00:08:08,001 --> 00:08:10,241 Speaker 1: There's children wanting to come like they're wanting to come 145 00:08:10,281 --> 00:08:13,321 Speaker 1: through via adoption and surrogacy and everything else because they're 146 00:08:13,321 --> 00:08:16,401 Speaker 1: wanting to bypass all of that for the sake of 147 00:08:16,441 --> 00:08:19,601 Speaker 1: the relationship with you. Yes, you know, So then I 148 00:08:19,641 --> 00:08:21,641 Speaker 1: think of like exactly what you've said, you know, when 149 00:08:21,681 --> 00:08:28,081 Speaker 1: it's like taking out the physical womb. It's taking all 150 00:08:28,121 --> 00:08:29,001 Speaker 1: of that shit with it. 151 00:08:29,401 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's an in and it's it's having an 152 00:08:32,121 --> 00:08:35,401 Speaker 2: informed choice, isn't it. Like I did so much research 153 00:08:35,441 --> 00:08:38,201 Speaker 2: on it, but at the end, nobody could tell me 154 00:08:38,241 --> 00:08:39,441 Speaker 2: otherwise because I just knew. 155 00:08:39,801 --> 00:08:40,201 Speaker 1: I knew. 156 00:08:40,361 --> 00:08:43,201 Speaker 2: I knew that's exactly what I needed to do for 157 00:08:43,321 --> 00:08:46,441 Speaker 2: my body. I knew that that uters was now toxic 158 00:08:46,521 --> 00:08:48,961 Speaker 2: for me. Like, you know, I was bleeding. You know, 159 00:08:49,001 --> 00:08:52,441 Speaker 2: I'm fifty one, so I've got a great GP. 160 00:08:52,601 --> 00:08:55,801 Speaker 1: But he was male, and he just kept. 161 00:08:55,641 --> 00:08:58,601 Speaker 2: Saying, yeah, you're so close to menopause. You're so close 162 00:08:58,641 --> 00:09:01,481 Speaker 2: to menopause, Like just waited out, and I kept being Yah, 163 00:09:01,521 --> 00:09:03,921 Speaker 2: you're right, you're right, you're right, And then that so 164 00:09:04,041 --> 00:09:07,361 Speaker 2: I thought, no, you're actually not right. Guess you're not right, 165 00:09:07,961 --> 00:09:10,961 Speaker 2: not right. I'm not listening. I'm not for the listening 166 00:09:11,001 --> 00:09:14,281 Speaker 2: to myself, and I feel like it. I was having 167 00:09:14,281 --> 00:09:16,441 Speaker 2: periods every two and a half three weeks. You know 168 00:09:16,441 --> 00:09:21,761 Speaker 2: how much stuff I've done homopathically, acupuncture, spiritual healings, all 169 00:09:21,801 --> 00:09:23,601 Speaker 2: the other things, and I just knew that that was 170 00:09:23,641 --> 00:09:26,561 Speaker 2: a time that it had to go, because yeah, periods 171 00:09:26,561 --> 00:09:28,641 Speaker 2: every two and a half three weeks. I was in pain. 172 00:09:28,761 --> 00:09:31,001 Speaker 2: I was exhausted all the time. I couldn't kept my 173 00:09:31,081 --> 00:09:34,441 Speaker 2: eye up. There was just so much to it physically 174 00:09:34,881 --> 00:09:37,001 Speaker 2: as well as spiritually and emotionally. 175 00:09:38,001 --> 00:09:40,841 Speaker 1: Okay, how long has it been now since you got 176 00:09:40,841 --> 00:09:41,361 Speaker 1: it taken out? 177 00:09:41,521 --> 00:09:42,601 Speaker 2: Five weeks on Friday? 178 00:09:42,921 --> 00:09:44,561 Speaker 1: How do you feel? Amazing? 179 00:09:45,161 --> 00:09:48,601 Speaker 2: Yeah? Great, And it was you know, I was so prepared. 180 00:09:49,321 --> 00:09:51,441 Speaker 2: I don't know how often in life sometimes we get 181 00:09:51,561 --> 00:09:55,521 Speaker 2: to choose to have surgery. I felt so grateful that 182 00:09:55,881 --> 00:09:58,841 Speaker 2: it was in my control so I could I could 183 00:09:58,881 --> 00:10:01,921 Speaker 2: prepare my body as best as possible. And yeah, it's 184 00:10:02,081 --> 00:10:03,161 Speaker 2: not a walk in the park. 185 00:10:03,361 --> 00:10:04,601 Speaker 1: It's not great. 186 00:10:05,041 --> 00:10:07,081 Speaker 2: I think for the first trips I probably cried every day, 187 00:10:07,241 --> 00:10:13,881 Speaker 2: you know, like but that it was really painful. It 188 00:10:13,921 --> 00:10:16,881 Speaker 2: was just I was incapacitated and I was out of control, 189 00:10:17,121 --> 00:10:20,241 Speaker 2: and I don't like feeling sick. It's not you know, 190 00:10:20,321 --> 00:10:23,041 Speaker 2: I'm not a good patient. I'm an impatient patient, so 191 00:10:23,641 --> 00:10:25,401 Speaker 2: you know, and I think there's still a lot of 192 00:10:25,441 --> 00:10:29,321 Speaker 2: releasing and healing to do. Even though you're so ready 193 00:10:29,601 --> 00:10:31,321 Speaker 2: for it to come out, there's still a lot that 194 00:10:31,361 --> 00:10:32,041 Speaker 2: you need to do. 195 00:10:32,481 --> 00:10:34,641 Speaker 1: Well, were the things that were coming up? Do you think. 196 00:10:34,721 --> 00:10:38,041 Speaker 2: Oh, it was so interesting really, pretty much straight after 197 00:10:38,081 --> 00:10:40,001 Speaker 2: I had the hysterectomy and I was doing raking on 198 00:10:40,041 --> 00:10:44,881 Speaker 2: myself and releasing emotions, and so much was coming up 199 00:10:45,401 --> 00:10:48,721 Speaker 2: of me being in my mum's room, so pre birth, 200 00:10:48,841 --> 00:10:52,481 Speaker 2: so stuff that was pre birth. So I think every 201 00:10:52,481 --> 00:10:54,641 Speaker 2: time I've done a healing in myself, it's been about 202 00:10:54,761 --> 00:10:58,441 Speaker 2: pre birth. So I was not expected as a third child, like, 203 00:10:58,521 --> 00:11:00,681 Speaker 2: it was not on the plan, life plan for mom 204 00:11:00,761 --> 00:11:03,521 Speaker 2: and dad. But I really needed to come through. It 205 00:11:03,561 --> 00:11:06,241 Speaker 2: was on my plan, my records. I had to come 206 00:11:06,241 --> 00:11:08,761 Speaker 2: through that time. But you know, they were dealing with 207 00:11:08,801 --> 00:11:11,601 Speaker 2: a lot. You know, Mum had had post sountal depression. 208 00:11:12,641 --> 00:11:14,281 Speaker 2: You know, it was a big ass for her to 209 00:11:14,281 --> 00:11:17,441 Speaker 2: have another baby. So there was so much that needed 210 00:11:17,481 --> 00:11:23,441 Speaker 2: to be healed for her and for me. And I'd 211 00:11:23,481 --> 00:11:26,921 Speaker 2: not done any pre birth healing at all until i'd 212 00:11:26,921 --> 00:11:27,601 Speaker 2: have the hysterecter. 213 00:11:27,681 --> 00:11:27,721 Speaker 1: Me. 214 00:11:28,361 --> 00:11:32,561 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been really interesting watching her over these 215 00:11:32,641 --> 00:11:35,561 Speaker 2: last few weeks and seeing stuff shift from her. 216 00:11:36,041 --> 00:11:38,801 Speaker 1: How about your kids? Have you noticed anything with the kids? 217 00:11:38,841 --> 00:11:40,681 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you know, that's funny. I was thinking about 218 00:11:40,681 --> 00:11:45,921 Speaker 2: that the other day. Not really, No, No, no, I haven't. 219 00:11:45,801 --> 00:11:48,121 Speaker 1: But how amazing, like the way that you will be 220 00:11:48,161 --> 00:11:53,321 Speaker 1: able to support them through everything. It will obviously there 221 00:11:53,361 --> 00:11:54,841 Speaker 1: will be things that will come up for them at 222 00:11:54,881 --> 00:11:57,681 Speaker 1: certain times and things that they were moving through and 223 00:11:57,721 --> 00:12:01,321 Speaker 1: like for you to be able to understand and support 224 00:12:01,521 --> 00:12:02,681 Speaker 1: them through it. 225 00:12:02,921 --> 00:12:04,841 Speaker 2: Well, I think even just seeing that I've made my 226 00:12:04,881 --> 00:12:08,481 Speaker 2: own own choice that you know that, yeah, I could 227 00:12:08,481 --> 00:12:11,681 Speaker 2: have just kept waiting and waiting and hoping menopause stopped 228 00:12:11,681 --> 00:12:14,281 Speaker 2: a period and I could get out of that pain 229 00:12:14,401 --> 00:12:17,401 Speaker 2: and discomfort. But just I think for them going, oh, yeah, 230 00:12:17,441 --> 00:12:20,721 Speaker 2: mum's just made that choice herself, Like she's just taken 231 00:12:20,801 --> 00:12:23,441 Speaker 2: upon herself to go to the doctor and say this 232 00:12:23,601 --> 00:12:27,921 Speaker 2: is what I need, like be a voice for herself. 233 00:12:28,281 --> 00:12:32,041 Speaker 1: Do you think that through you really finding your voice 234 00:12:32,241 --> 00:12:35,281 Speaker 1: and understanding your body and listening to yourself and listening 235 00:12:35,321 --> 00:12:37,721 Speaker 1: to your own healing and going this is what I need, 236 00:12:38,081 --> 00:12:41,081 Speaker 1: does it help you understand their autonomy more? 237 00:12:41,201 --> 00:12:43,601 Speaker 2: Definitely. So that's been a really big learning curve for 238 00:12:43,641 --> 00:12:46,921 Speaker 2: me as a parent. And yeah, actually my son brought 239 00:12:46,921 --> 00:12:49,201 Speaker 2: something up to me the other day and it is 240 00:12:49,281 --> 00:12:51,681 Speaker 2: I feel like, actually that's maybe that's one thing like 241 00:12:51,761 --> 00:12:55,641 Speaker 2: we've talked more about like early parents and experiences and 242 00:12:55,681 --> 00:12:57,481 Speaker 2: there were things that I think, oh my god, I 243 00:12:57,521 --> 00:13:00,641 Speaker 2: can't He wanted a Wham T shirt and you know, 244 00:13:00,681 --> 00:13:02,641 Speaker 2: he would have been probably grade seven or something, and 245 00:13:02,681 --> 00:13:05,881 Speaker 2: I was kind of like, oh, I don't know, mate, 246 00:13:06,001 --> 00:13:09,641 Speaker 2: that like could give the wrong impression about you know, 247 00:13:09,841 --> 00:13:13,881 Speaker 2: who you are, Like what the fuck? Why would I 248 00:13:14,041 --> 00:13:17,841 Speaker 2: say that? Like I was just so like, man, and 249 00:13:17,881 --> 00:13:20,121 Speaker 2: I think you need to own these things too that 250 00:13:20,201 --> 00:13:22,361 Speaker 2: you say, because you know, I was able to say 251 00:13:22,401 --> 00:13:24,841 Speaker 2: to him, yeah, that I was so caught up in 252 00:13:25,601 --> 00:13:30,481 Speaker 2: needing to parent in a way that caused no distress 253 00:13:30,641 --> 00:13:33,081 Speaker 2: or caused no one to look at us differently. I 254 00:13:33,121 --> 00:13:35,441 Speaker 2: needed to be a safe parent. I needed you to 255 00:13:35,481 --> 00:13:39,441 Speaker 2: be just that, you know, the child that is just 256 00:13:40,201 --> 00:13:43,721 Speaker 2: does not step out of their boundaries, does not do 257 00:13:43,761 --> 00:13:47,361 Speaker 2: anything different. I need you just to be very cookie 258 00:13:47,401 --> 00:13:50,321 Speaker 2: cutter child. And of course neither of my children are. 259 00:13:51,481 --> 00:13:53,561 Speaker 1: But yeah, so I think you know that was and 260 00:13:53,601 --> 00:13:54,361 Speaker 1: it was really good to. 261 00:13:54,281 --> 00:13:56,441 Speaker 2: Be able to stay him. I'm really sorry, and I 262 00:13:56,481 --> 00:13:58,361 Speaker 2: own that. And I can't believe I said that, but 263 00:13:58,401 --> 00:14:00,321 Speaker 2: I know I now I can explain to you why 264 00:14:00,361 --> 00:14:01,041 Speaker 2: I said that. 265 00:14:01,401 --> 00:14:03,201 Speaker 1: And he was like, I mean, he was. 266 00:14:03,161 --> 00:14:06,281 Speaker 2: Like, mum, I can see how much you've changed and 267 00:14:07,001 --> 00:14:09,841 Speaker 2: how things are so different for you now. But yeah, 268 00:14:09,881 --> 00:14:12,521 Speaker 2: they're the kind of things that you kind of go, yeah, wow, 269 00:14:13,081 --> 00:14:13,481 Speaker 2: that's so. 270 00:14:13,841 --> 00:14:17,041 Speaker 1: Like I find that so important and empowering though, to 271 00:14:17,121 --> 00:14:19,681 Speaker 1: be able to like have that relationship with your kids 272 00:14:19,801 --> 00:14:22,601 Speaker 1: where they also get to see you be fucking human, 273 00:14:23,121 --> 00:14:26,121 Speaker 1: you know, and like, I don't think that it's our 274 00:14:26,201 --> 00:14:29,081 Speaker 1: job to be perfect for them, because we can't be, 275 00:14:29,241 --> 00:14:33,321 Speaker 1: and that's impossible, and any display of that is dishonest 276 00:14:33,641 --> 00:14:37,241 Speaker 1: because if they can't see that, we can say things 277 00:14:37,321 --> 00:14:39,961 Speaker 1: or do things that we then change our mind about, 278 00:14:40,121 --> 00:14:41,961 Speaker 1: or that we go, oh my god, I'm so sorry, 279 00:14:42,041 --> 00:14:43,961 Speaker 1: or that's all I knew at the time, thank you 280 00:14:44,001 --> 00:14:47,041 Speaker 1: for teaching me more, or you know, I really took 281 00:14:47,081 --> 00:14:49,641 Speaker 1: that as an opportunity for growth, whatever it is. Then 282 00:14:49,681 --> 00:14:51,041 Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to do the same, 283 00:14:51,281 --> 00:14:51,681 Speaker 1: that's right. 284 00:14:51,681 --> 00:14:53,921 Speaker 2: And I have learnt so much from them. They you know, 285 00:14:53,961 --> 00:14:55,841 Speaker 2: they are my children for a reason, and then my 286 00:14:55,961 --> 00:14:58,561 Speaker 2: children because I needed those lessons to be taught to 287 00:14:58,601 --> 00:15:03,481 Speaker 2: me of freedom and being not judgmental and you know, 288 00:15:03,721 --> 00:15:07,121 Speaker 2: like that freedom of express yeah, you know, not feeling 289 00:15:07,201 --> 00:15:10,201 Speaker 2: like I had to be this perfect person all the time, 290 00:15:10,281 --> 00:15:14,241 Speaker 2: and you know, Oh, it's yeah, it's that's big. 291 00:15:14,721 --> 00:15:19,721 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the ceremony ritual healing thing that we 292 00:15:19,761 --> 00:15:22,161 Speaker 1: did before you went in, because that was like the 293 00:15:22,361 --> 00:15:26,161 Speaker 1: coolest fucking thing. I was crying in it. And obviously 294 00:15:26,201 --> 00:15:29,241 Speaker 1: we're related and we which makes it so much more 295 00:15:29,281 --> 00:15:34,681 Speaker 1: powerful because we obviously share ancestors. So that's like, it's 296 00:15:34,681 --> 00:15:37,521 Speaker 1: so beautiful getting to do a healing on you and 297 00:15:37,961 --> 00:15:41,361 Speaker 1: surrounded by our family, you know, like that's always so special, 298 00:15:41,601 --> 00:15:44,721 Speaker 1: but this was on another level, on an absolute another level, 299 00:15:44,721 --> 00:15:46,241 Speaker 1: And I want to be I want to talk about 300 00:15:46,281 --> 00:15:49,401 Speaker 1: like my perspective, but then your perspective, because for me, 301 00:15:49,481 --> 00:15:51,361 Speaker 1: it was the craziest thing. And I always go into 302 00:15:51,401 --> 00:15:55,521 Speaker 1: a healing and I'm like, always have this thing where 303 00:15:55,561 --> 00:15:59,001 Speaker 1: it's like, who knows, maybe I see nothing, maybe nothing 304 00:15:59,041 --> 00:16:00,121 Speaker 1: significant comes. 305 00:15:59,921 --> 00:16:02,481 Speaker 2: Up, Bunny that you. 306 00:16:04,201 --> 00:16:07,161 Speaker 1: Seriously, every time, every single time I do a healing, 307 00:16:07,161 --> 00:16:09,601 Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe fucking two words will come up, maybe 308 00:16:09,641 --> 00:16:11,721 Speaker 1: nothing will happen. Maybe all I need to do is 309 00:16:11,801 --> 00:16:13,481 Speaker 1: like flap my hands around and you go on your 310 00:16:13,481 --> 00:16:16,641 Speaker 1: own experience or whatever, and then I start and it's 311 00:16:16,761 --> 00:16:18,401 Speaker 1: kind of like a little bit like that, you know, 312 00:16:18,441 --> 00:16:21,801 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of like, you know, channeling in, tuning in, 313 00:16:22,361 --> 00:16:24,041 Speaker 1: going yeah, no, you need to go to your heart, 314 00:16:24,161 --> 00:16:25,281 Speaker 1: need to do a little bit of this or the 315 00:16:25,321 --> 00:16:30,241 Speaker 1: other thing. And then next minute, I'm like basically taken 316 00:16:30,441 --> 00:16:34,001 Speaker 1: into The only way I can describe it is a 317 00:16:34,041 --> 00:16:39,561 Speaker 1: portal that I'm like these ancestors and these guides have 318 00:16:39,761 --> 00:16:42,481 Speaker 1: like brought me into. I had to like basically walk 319 00:16:42,521 --> 00:16:45,641 Speaker 1: into this sort of like bubble, and like when I'm 320 00:16:45,641 --> 00:16:48,801 Speaker 1: doing these healings, like my eyes are closed for ninety 321 00:16:48,841 --> 00:16:50,561 Speaker 1: nine percent of it except for when I'm needing to 322 00:16:50,641 --> 00:16:53,441 Speaker 1: like move around. But even when my eyes are open, 323 00:16:54,441 --> 00:16:57,801 Speaker 1: pretty much all I can see is everything I'm being shown. 324 00:16:58,481 --> 00:17:01,641 Speaker 1: I'm basically taken to like a new place, and I've 325 00:17:01,681 --> 00:17:04,641 Speaker 1: been taken into this sort of portal thing and I've 326 00:17:04,681 --> 00:17:07,921 Speaker 1: walked in and this I don't even know what happened. 327 00:17:07,921 --> 00:17:09,961 Speaker 1: It was like I was taken on this little journey 328 00:17:10,041 --> 00:17:13,321 Speaker 1: and I step out and I just keep even seeing now. 329 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,401 Speaker 1: So there was so much to do with flowers, which 330 00:17:15,441 --> 00:17:18,041 Speaker 1: is so random, and that comes up later. But I 331 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: walk out and I'm basically in a forest, and like 332 00:17:21,561 --> 00:17:23,801 Speaker 1: I'm in a forest and you were in front of 333 00:17:23,801 --> 00:17:30,041 Speaker 1: me in this forest, and it became a full ceremony, 334 00:17:30,281 --> 00:17:34,801 Speaker 1: like we had these ancestors around, like your dad was 335 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:39,161 Speaker 1: there as well, and he did his own thing, and 336 00:17:39,201 --> 00:17:44,761 Speaker 1: then like Nana was there, your your nana was there, 337 00:17:44,801 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: Like everyone was there, and then like ancestors that you 338 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: know I don't even know about, yes, exactly, it just 339 00:17:52,281 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: became this and just I can't, I can never, I 340 00:17:55,281 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: can't get the forest out of my mind. And because 341 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 1: you're such, you're so connected to earth as well, so 342 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,681 Speaker 1: none of this felt surprising, no, that we were there 343 00:18:03,721 --> 00:18:06,601 Speaker 1: and I was like on my knee is beneath the table, 344 00:18:07,321 --> 00:18:10,801 Speaker 1: like taking things from you and like putting them into 345 00:18:10,801 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: the earth. And as I did, it was like flowers 346 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: grew out of this earth. And then I basically was 347 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: like I did a lot of stuff and was like 348 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,561 Speaker 1: you know, obviously in this fucking forest, just being guided 349 00:18:21,561 --> 00:18:24,961 Speaker 1: to do whatever it was. And then the coolest part 350 00:18:25,001 --> 00:18:30,121 Speaker 1: was when it was like time basically to remove the womb, 351 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,801 Speaker 1: and the journey that went on and all the healing 352 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: done before that was like really beautiful. But then I 353 00:18:36,521 --> 00:18:39,201 Speaker 1: basically had to stand at the edge like the at 354 00:18:39,241 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: your feet, and it was almost like birth. It was 355 00:18:42,961 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: like you there was like this moment where it was 356 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,161 Speaker 1: almost like you it had to like be fully pulled out, 357 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: like you were birthing your room. I was like, okay, 358 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: and it's the craziest thing, Like it all sounds so 359 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: fucking intane exactly when you're in it. It is like 360 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:07,361 Speaker 1: I'm in a forest and I am helping my auntie 361 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: birth her womb right now with like the fucking forest, 362 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: I felt like snow white, like with the fucking like 363 00:19:14,521 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: you know, forest creatures around like they're sitting there just 364 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,241 Speaker 1: like you know, like you're sleeping beauty or something. And 365 00:19:21,961 --> 00:19:24,921 Speaker 1: this womb came out and I had to like walk 366 00:19:24,961 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: over to this other part of the room in the 367 00:19:27,921 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: real world, but in forest world, it was just like 368 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,121 Speaker 1: this other spot between these trees, and I had to 369 00:19:36,201 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: like literally take my time like basically digging a grave 370 00:19:42,281 --> 00:19:45,360 Speaker 1: for not a grave, because that's the absolute wrongest word, 371 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:51,561 Speaker 1: and wrongest is a wrong word anyway, the wrong word. Yeah, 372 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 1: we'll take wrongest to basically give it back to the earth. 373 00:19:56,481 --> 00:19:58,961 Speaker 1: And it was the most beautiful thing and I had 374 00:19:59,001 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: to like really slowly bring it into the earth and 375 00:20:03,201 --> 00:20:06,801 Speaker 1: it was like the earth like absorbed. And while we 376 00:20:06,801 --> 00:20:10,481 Speaker 1: were doing this, like these female ancestors were like standing 377 00:20:10,521 --> 00:20:13,921 Speaker 1: around you and there were flowers growing around you. Oh 378 00:20:14,001 --> 00:20:17,921 Speaker 1: my god. It was just the most beautiful thing. And 379 00:20:18,041 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: all I kept thinking afterwards was just like I wish 380 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:29,001 Speaker 1: more people got to experience and understand this, you know, 381 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,081 Speaker 1: to be able to as you've said, like the choice 382 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: to go. I know, I need to do this. I'm 383 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: doing this for my body. I'm like, you know, because 384 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,041 Speaker 1: there's so much noise. There's so many people who could 385 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: tell you, you know, you could just work through it. You 386 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: could just do this, You just do this, blah blah blah, 387 00:20:43,441 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Have you tried medication, Have you tried 388 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,201 Speaker 1: you know, going to live with the monks and meditating 389 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:53,481 Speaker 1: the pain out of you or whatever? You know, everyone 390 00:20:53,561 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: has their own opinion on whatever it is. But the 391 00:20:56,481 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: power to go, I'm listening to exactly what I need, 392 00:21:00,681 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: and I'm making this decision for myself. But then to 393 00:21:04,281 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: like go through that experience of like you know, understanding 394 00:21:10,281 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: and seeing the ancestral line of it and getting to 395 00:21:14,041 --> 00:21:17,041 Speaker 1: have that experience where we got to have like a 396 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: ceremony around it. 397 00:21:18,481 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, like you said, I wish there 398 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: were more women that understood the rituals around things and 399 00:21:23,441 --> 00:21:28,241 Speaker 2: how comforting a ritual can be, and how soothing and 400 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 2: healing that a ceremony can be when about your body 401 00:21:33,321 --> 00:21:36,321 Speaker 2: like it, I mean that healing for me was just 402 00:21:36,441 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: I knew it had to happen, Like it was just 403 00:21:39,521 --> 00:21:41,360 Speaker 2: it just had to be done. Yeah, before you know, 404 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 2: I knew, and it was you that had to do 405 00:21:43,001 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: it for me. And it was amazing. I mean I 406 00:21:45,961 --> 00:21:48,321 Speaker 2: was really like pretty out of it the whole time. 407 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,441 Speaker 2: I do remember feeling like almost that feeling a bit 408 00:21:51,521 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: giving birth, that releasing from my body. It was like 409 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,321 Speaker 2: so full of my uterus just leaving and it was 410 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:00,641 Speaker 2: so peaceful and calm, and it was at that point 411 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,201 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm definitely making the right decision. 412 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:06,441 Speaker 2: Like it was just that feeling like I was being 413 00:22:06,521 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: split open, you know, I said to you, I just 414 00:22:08,441 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: felt like I was just being I could feel my 415 00:22:11,001 --> 00:22:15,321 Speaker 2: body expanding and expanding and expanding and expanding. It was 416 00:22:15,441 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 2: could feel like the heat and intenseness in my third 417 00:22:20,681 --> 00:22:24,321 Speaker 2: eye and in my diaphragm, in my solar plexus, like 418 00:22:25,321 --> 00:22:29,241 Speaker 2: you're feeling so much at the same time as been 419 00:22:29,281 --> 00:22:33,721 Speaker 2: on this other level of healing. And then after that, 420 00:22:33,801 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: the amazing thing was I was just you know you're saying. 421 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,801 Speaker 2: There was the ancestral people like the women that you 422 00:22:41,801 --> 00:22:43,801 Speaker 2: you know, and Dad was there like, which was amazing 423 00:22:43,801 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: because he's really evolved in that spiritual world. But for 424 00:22:47,721 --> 00:22:51,161 Speaker 2: the next few days until I went to surgery, those 425 00:22:51,201 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 2: ancestral women followed me around around sat behind so but 426 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 2: like sat find my just stood behind my head on 427 00:23:01,561 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: either side of my shoulders and they followed me around. 428 00:23:04,521 --> 00:23:09,521 Speaker 2: I felt so comforted, so protected, so supported, Like going 429 00:23:09,561 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: into that surgery, I just they were there, that were 430 00:23:12,321 --> 00:23:14,281 Speaker 2: just I knew nothing was going to go wrong because 431 00:23:14,321 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 2: I knew that they had me. They knew and it 432 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,641 Speaker 2: was like they were just cheering me, going, yes, you're 433 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 2: doing this for the right reasons, and thank you for 434 00:23:21,761 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 2: releasing us from all of this as well, Like yeah, 435 00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:29,761 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, that that understanding. There's so much more 436 00:23:29,801 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 2: that's happening on so many different layers when we're doing 437 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: things for ourselves. 438 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,721 Speaker 1: Yes, the choice, the doing things for ourselves. It's so interesting. 439 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,801 Speaker 1: I've literally like almost forgotten and I love that we 440 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: are doing this podcast and talking about all of this 441 00:23:44,521 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: now because in the last like five group healings that 442 00:23:47,441 --> 00:23:51,041 Speaker 1: I've done the same kind of thing. Especially for a 443 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,001 Speaker 1: few weeks the same thing kept coming up and I 444 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: just am like, oh wow, okay, they were again just 445 00:23:57,120 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 1: like this needs to be shared, especially when you were 446 00:23:58,921 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: talking about your like female ancestors around you and like 447 00:24:04,281 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: how they was so soh the celebration of it, and 448 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,001 Speaker 1: just the like, yes, yes, yes, you're making a decision 449 00:24:11,001 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 1: for yourself because they've been coming through so strongly lately 450 00:24:17,001 --> 00:24:19,801 Speaker 1: for people, and you're going to be feeling them, Like 451 00:24:19,961 --> 00:24:22,201 Speaker 1: for people listening to this, You're going to be feeling 452 00:24:22,281 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: these ancestors on your shoulders and it's going to feel 453 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,481 Speaker 1: like they're constantly pushing you to make decisions for yourself 454 00:24:30,521 --> 00:24:33,521 Speaker 1: because they literally came through the other week and they 455 00:24:33,521 --> 00:24:37,761 Speaker 1: were like basically begging. They're like, please, please, please please. 456 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 1: Do not get to the end of your life and 457 00:24:40,001 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: realize that you lived for everybody else except for yourself. Yeah, 458 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 1: do not get to the end of your life and 459 00:24:45,721 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 1: realize that you just people pleased and you said yes 460 00:24:48,921 --> 00:24:51,441 Speaker 1: when you wanted to say no. You stayed in relationships 461 00:24:51,481 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: because you felt like you had to, and you and 462 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: you lived because you were told that's how you were 463 00:24:56,281 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: supposed to live. Because they're like because you'll get to 464 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,161 Speaker 1: the end of your life and you realize, like, none 465 00:25:01,241 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: of that fucking mattered, and what was the point it 466 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,761 Speaker 1: was my life? Why was I living it? Because like 467 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,641 Speaker 1: a lot of these women lived lives like that. 468 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 2: Oh, And I think there's just so much around that 469 00:25:13,961 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 2: womb space that needs to be released from women. And 470 00:25:16,961 --> 00:25:20,281 Speaker 2: I think especially when we get to my age as well, 471 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: where where our bodies are completely changing and there's such freedom, 472 00:25:25,961 --> 00:25:30,521 Speaker 2: like we're about to step into a whole different lifetime. 473 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,601 Speaker 2: I feel like of freedom, like don't hold onto what 474 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: doesn't need to be there anymore. And just even that 475 00:25:38,001 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: connecting with your there's so much negativity I think around menopause, 476 00:25:41,921 --> 00:25:44,761 Speaker 2: and yeah, it sucks. There's things about perimenopause that make 477 00:25:44,801 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: life really tricky and hard. But I feel like the 478 00:25:47,561 --> 00:25:51,681 Speaker 2: more connected you can be with that space, then the 479 00:25:51,681 --> 00:25:54,281 Speaker 2: more understanding you'll have of your body and the less 480 00:25:54,321 --> 00:25:57,161 Speaker 2: fear you'll have. And that when you had Rosy rees 481 00:25:57,241 --> 00:26:00,281 Speaker 2: on and she was really connecting with your vagina, yes, 482 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,561 Speaker 2: and connecting with that's oh what was it. 483 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: In the mirror? Yeah, in the mirror. Alie sent me 484 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,120 Speaker 1: a photo of she's like not off her vagina but 485 00:26:10,241 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: she's like I'm like, she's like, I'm holding space all 486 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:21,441 Speaker 1: and it was all these. 487 00:26:21,241 --> 00:26:25,201 Speaker 2: Things because I think you're investigating yourself, like you're understanding, 488 00:26:25,201 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 2: and so for me it was like wow, you know, 489 00:26:27,761 --> 00:26:29,961 Speaker 2: I guess so much of my upbringing in the church 490 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:34,961 Speaker 2: was about such negativity around sexual awakening and sexual understanding 491 00:26:35,001 --> 00:26:38,281 Speaker 2: and about your vagina, and to me, it wasn't part 492 00:26:38,281 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: of my body, Like I had such disconnect with that 493 00:26:41,001 --> 00:26:43,561 Speaker 2: as well. Like it was like and when I did that, 494 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: it was like I couldn't stop crying. I was like, 495 00:26:45,801 --> 00:26:49,481 Speaker 2: oh my God, Like this is me. This is actually 496 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: all of me, my vagina, my uterus, my room space, 497 00:26:54,281 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: this is actually part of who I am and my soul. 498 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,161 Speaker 2: And there's so much feeling in that. Like I think 499 00:26:59,201 --> 00:27:01,961 Speaker 2: I was so disconnected from that. There was no Yeah, 500 00:27:02,001 --> 00:27:05,521 Speaker 2: I just had pushed all of the feeling away from 501 00:27:05,561 --> 00:27:08,401 Speaker 2: my from my sexual being or just even being a vagina. 502 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: It was just too many bad experiences. 503 00:27:11,441 --> 00:27:14,001 Speaker 1: And I think, like even when you're talking about menopause 504 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,121 Speaker 1: before and like obviously there's such a not a negative 505 00:27:17,201 --> 00:27:19,321 Speaker 1: conno tape because I think, you know, women are starting 506 00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: to like own it a bit more and talk about 507 00:27:21,481 --> 00:27:25,721 Speaker 1: it God and a hundred percent thank God. But I 508 00:27:25,761 --> 00:27:30,161 Speaker 1: think like we are really needing to connect to these 509 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: parts of ourselves. And it starts from like, like you know, 510 00:27:33,001 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: we've spoken about it before in this podcast, where like 511 00:27:35,321 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: as kids going through you know, our cycles, and it 512 00:27:39,001 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 1: was always a shameful thing, Like God forbid anyone sees 513 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: that you like got a tampon in your pocket, or 514 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,761 Speaker 1: like you have your parage to hide everything. 515 00:27:48,721 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 2: Don't say anything, don't swim, don't say you're not swim 516 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,201 Speaker 2: because you've got. 517 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: Your period or oh yeah, all of those things, and 518 00:27:55,801 --> 00:27:58,521 Speaker 1: like there's so much shame around these parts of ourselves. 519 00:27:58,561 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: And even like not even just the period, but just 520 00:28:02,041 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: one hundred percent when we were saying, like have just 521 00:28:04,041 --> 00:28:07,521 Speaker 1: having a vagina, I remember even like having pubes, for 522 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,121 Speaker 1: God's sake, I remember like the amount of mental space 523 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: that my my pubes took up when I was a 524 00:28:14,721 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: teenager of like no one taught me what to do 525 00:28:17,681 --> 00:28:20,401 Speaker 1: with these things. But also like I've got to wear 526 00:28:20,561 --> 00:28:24,281 Speaker 1: swimmers that you know, like cut off half of my 527 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: funny and like you can literally see everything, and like 528 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,161 Speaker 1: I can't go to like the swimming carnival with pubes 529 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: coming out, but no was telling me what to do 530 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: about these things, and also how much shame and I'm 531 00:28:35,001 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: gonna get bullied and like yeah, insay, no wonder we 532 00:28:38,561 --> 00:28:40,761 Speaker 1: have such a disconnect to that part of ourselves. And 533 00:28:40,801 --> 00:28:44,081 Speaker 1: I'm the same, Like even I still haven't even done it, 534 00:28:44,161 --> 00:28:46,561 Speaker 1: the like sitting in was gonna ask you if you've 535 00:28:46,561 --> 00:28:48,801 Speaker 1: done it yet, I've bitched out, No. 536 00:28:48,801 --> 00:28:51,281 Speaker 2: It's so good, Wiki, you need to do it. Honestly, 537 00:28:52,001 --> 00:28:56,361 Speaker 2: it's so It's so healing and so therapeutic and and 538 00:28:56,601 --> 00:29:00,761 Speaker 2: just makes you feel so connected and in tune with yourself. 539 00:29:00,801 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: And yeah, I just didn't realize how much of that 540 00:29:03,601 --> 00:29:06,561 Speaker 2: was just like literally separate part of me, Like you 541 00:29:06,801 --> 00:29:09,281 Speaker 2: like sat out here, not in here. 542 00:29:09,321 --> 00:29:09,961 Speaker 1: Because. 543 00:29:12,521 --> 00:29:15,281 Speaker 2: I'm putting to my womb space and vagina was not there. 544 00:29:15,441 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: So what we're talking about for everyone who's like, what 545 00:29:17,281 --> 00:29:20,841 Speaker 1: do you even mean like literally sitting in front of 546 00:29:20,841 --> 00:29:24,201 Speaker 1: a mirror, legs spread. 547 00:29:24,161 --> 00:29:29,081 Speaker 2: Looking at your vagina, caressing it, understanding it, seeing it 548 00:29:29,161 --> 00:29:32,361 Speaker 2: for what it is, feeling it and not like in 549 00:29:32,401 --> 00:29:36,921 Speaker 2: a sexual masturbation way. For me, it was really about 550 00:29:37,521 --> 00:29:40,841 Speaker 2: loving it and loving the experiences I've had with I 551 00:29:40,881 --> 00:29:43,001 Speaker 2: guess for me as a teenager, when it just felt 552 00:29:43,041 --> 00:29:47,081 Speaker 2: like such a negative thing a vagina at all, really, 553 00:29:47,721 --> 00:29:50,281 Speaker 2: and to have any yeah, I have any sexual feelings 554 00:29:50,361 --> 00:29:50,841 Speaker 2: at all. 555 00:29:51,161 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 556 00:29:51,521 --> 00:29:55,201 Speaker 2: So yeah, just really feeling that connection and that love 557 00:29:55,441 --> 00:29:59,681 Speaker 2: and being grateful for it, not being disconnected from it. 558 00:30:00,001 --> 00:30:02,161 Speaker 1: You said at the beginning, like a lot of the 559 00:30:02,201 --> 00:30:04,321 Speaker 1: feelings that were coming up in regards to your womb 560 00:30:04,361 --> 00:30:08,761 Speaker 1: space were around and not liking yourself. Oh yeah, How 561 00:30:08,761 --> 00:30:11,481 Speaker 1: different do you feel from like this time last year 562 00:30:11,521 --> 00:30:11,841 Speaker 1: to now? 563 00:30:11,881 --> 00:30:15,841 Speaker 2: Oh? Not a different person and not in a like Oh, 564 00:30:15,841 --> 00:30:18,321 Speaker 2: I'm so glad I left that old me behind because 565 00:30:18,761 --> 00:30:22,961 Speaker 2: I feel freer. Yeah, I feel freer. I feel Yeah, 566 00:30:23,041 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: I just feel lighter. I feel freer. I feel like 567 00:30:26,761 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 2: when these emotions, obviously stuff still comes up. That's just 568 00:30:30,401 --> 00:30:32,281 Speaker 2: what happens. You don't something to be free of it all. 569 00:30:32,961 --> 00:30:34,921 Speaker 2: But I feel like I can tap into that so 570 00:30:35,081 --> 00:30:39,041 Speaker 2: much quicker now than what I could before because I'm 571 00:30:39,041 --> 00:30:42,481 Speaker 2: not pushing so much away either. So I feel so 572 00:30:42,561 --> 00:30:46,401 Speaker 2: much more connected to my spiritual side and my higher self. 573 00:30:47,001 --> 00:30:49,601 Speaker 1: I think I would say, and especially in regards to 574 00:30:49,721 --> 00:30:52,601 Speaker 1: like that, because that's such a it's a hard feeling, 575 00:30:52,601 --> 00:30:55,281 Speaker 1: but I think it's something that probably so many people 576 00:30:55,281 --> 00:30:58,801 Speaker 1: can relate to that feeling of like not liking yourself, 577 00:30:58,961 --> 00:31:00,401 Speaker 1: you know, I know, even for me, like I want 578 00:31:00,401 --> 00:31:00,681 Speaker 1: to be of. 579 00:31:00,801 --> 00:31:03,321 Speaker 2: So much shame around who I was and thing's going 580 00:31:03,401 --> 00:31:06,521 Speaker 2: to happen in the past and thoughts I had and 581 00:31:07,561 --> 00:31:12,161 Speaker 2: not needing to be so perfect, understanding that no one 582 00:31:12,281 --> 00:31:16,241 Speaker 2: is perfect. And yeah, I think that would probably be 583 00:31:16,961 --> 00:31:21,001 Speaker 2: the biggest change I feel that you like yourself. 584 00:31:21,401 --> 00:31:26,281 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love Yes, yes, I love that. That would 585 00:31:26,281 --> 00:31:29,441 Speaker 1: be your advice to anyone who is maybe on this 586 00:31:29,521 --> 00:31:32,321 Speaker 1: journey or like, you know, whether it's just wanting to 587 00:31:33,001 --> 00:31:36,561 Speaker 1: learn more about their womb space or like understanding how 588 00:31:36,641 --> 00:31:38,761 Speaker 1: much is in there and how much we can learn 589 00:31:38,801 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: from it and how much is stored in there, or 590 00:31:41,321 --> 00:31:44,721 Speaker 1: even people who are like I've been thinking, I've been 591 00:31:44,761 --> 00:31:46,601 Speaker 1: feeling that feeling of like it needs to be gone, 592 00:31:46,921 --> 00:31:49,121 Speaker 1: I need to do it, or whatever decision it is. 593 00:31:49,441 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think listen to yourself, like listen to 594 00:31:52,281 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 2: what keeps coming up for you, and certainly take on 595 00:31:56,641 --> 00:32:00,601 Speaker 2: other people's advice. But I think you know in your 596 00:32:00,641 --> 00:32:03,721 Speaker 2: heart what's right, and I think you're knowing your heart 597 00:32:03,841 --> 00:32:06,401 Speaker 2: what suits your body. And I think just you know, 598 00:32:06,881 --> 00:32:09,841 Speaker 2: do womb space healings or I have Reiki sessions and 599 00:32:09,921 --> 00:32:13,281 Speaker 2: ask for it to be centered around your womb. Investigate 600 00:32:13,361 --> 00:32:15,921 Speaker 2: that because I think that kind of can help you 601 00:32:16,001 --> 00:32:18,161 Speaker 2: get to where you need to be as well, because 602 00:32:18,161 --> 00:32:20,361 Speaker 2: it would bring up emotions that maybe you need to 603 00:32:20,401 --> 00:32:23,081 Speaker 2: work through before you can even make that decision. Because 604 00:32:23,121 --> 00:32:25,761 Speaker 2: I even if I had made that decision this time 605 00:32:25,841 --> 00:32:28,321 Speaker 2: last year, I'm so glad I never went through with 606 00:32:28,361 --> 00:32:30,641 Speaker 2: it because I wouldn't have been ready yet, I wouldn't 607 00:32:30,641 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 2: have been at where I was now fully ready to 608 00:32:33,241 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 2: heal and let it go. So just just don't second 609 00:32:38,721 --> 00:32:39,441 Speaker 2: guess yourself. 610 00:32:40,241 --> 00:32:43,521 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, And also I think like that what you 611 00:32:43,601 --> 00:32:46,161 Speaker 1: said about just the making the choice. I think like 612 00:32:46,241 --> 00:32:48,281 Speaker 1: we can do all the womb healings in the world. 613 00:32:48,401 --> 00:32:51,081 Speaker 1: We can do all the energy healing, we can get acupuncture, 614 00:32:51,121 --> 00:32:53,801 Speaker 1: we can do all the things, but sometimes the most 615 00:32:53,921 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: healing thing and the real lesson and empowerment that we 616 00:32:58,321 --> 00:33:00,681 Speaker 1: need is getting to make a choice for ourselves. 617 00:33:01,161 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think there was still a lot of 618 00:33:04,561 --> 00:33:06,281 Speaker 2: for me, like I think, oh, but I'm a healer. 619 00:33:06,441 --> 00:33:08,041 Speaker 2: How am I supposed to be a healing if I'm 620 00:33:08,081 --> 00:33:11,081 Speaker 2: going surgery to remove my uterius? Like that doesn't make sense, 621 00:33:11,161 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 2: you know. I think I said to you, I just 622 00:33:12,761 --> 00:33:16,681 Speaker 2: feel like I'm my fraud, But it's not. It's about 623 00:33:16,761 --> 00:33:19,161 Speaker 2: knowing there's all these things you can do and you 624 00:33:19,241 --> 00:33:22,721 Speaker 2: have so many choices. Yes, yeah, not feeling like you're 625 00:33:22,801 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: just stuck. Don't ever feel like you're stuck because you're not. 626 00:33:25,801 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. I think that's a beautiful place 627 00:33:28,561 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: to end. And I'm so I feel like this is 628 00:33:31,281 --> 00:33:34,801 Speaker 1: going to be so relevant to probably like more people 629 00:33:34,841 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: than we even realize, you know, And again, just like 630 00:33:37,001 --> 00:33:39,601 Speaker 1: coming back to that, getting to make a choice is 631 00:33:39,641 --> 00:33:44,361 Speaker 1: so important for yourself. Yeah, you guys can actually like 632 00:33:44,521 --> 00:33:47,881 Speaker 1: get healings from Ali as well, and if you, she's 633 00:33:48,561 --> 00:33:51,041 Speaker 1: one of the most incredible healers ever. And I'm not 634 00:33:51,081 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: just saying that because I love her. I'm saying that 635 00:33:54,001 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: because I've received them and you walk away feeling like 636 00:33:57,321 --> 00:34:02,361 Speaker 1: the most loved I cry, I like, and she's just 637 00:34:02,521 --> 00:34:04,961 Speaker 1: she makes you feel so loved and you move through 638 00:34:05,121 --> 00:34:07,881 Speaker 1: so many amazing things. You don't do distance yet, do 639 00:34:07,921 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: you you're doing You're such an in person touch. 640 00:34:11,081 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: I am a bit of an in person I do 641 00:34:13,441 --> 00:34:19,281 Speaker 2: do distance healing, but I am definitely an in person, nurturing, touching. 642 00:34:19,081 --> 00:34:22,081 Speaker 1: Kind of person, absolutely, which is what makes you so amazing. 643 00:34:22,561 --> 00:34:24,801 Speaker 1: How can people book with you and find. 644 00:34:25,081 --> 00:34:29,441 Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram? So soul alignment Reiki on Instagram. I 645 00:34:29,481 --> 00:34:32,561 Speaker 2: will have a website up shortly. My lovely husband is 646 00:34:32,601 --> 00:34:34,761 Speaker 2: working on that for me at the moment. But yeah, 647 00:34:34,841 --> 00:34:37,281 Speaker 2: just DM me. I'm not doing healings at the moment. 648 00:34:37,321 --> 00:34:39,841 Speaker 2: I'll be back in February. Just taking this time to 649 00:34:40,401 --> 00:34:43,601 Speaker 2: recover fun. Yes, I'd love to see anyone amazing. 650 00:34:43,641 --> 00:34:45,641 Speaker 1: I'll put all of that in the show notes as well. 651 00:34:46,041 --> 00:34:48,561 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening, and thank you so much 652 00:34:48,601 --> 00:34:51,641 Speaker 1: Alie for sharing that. It's just so beautiful and I'm 653 00:34:51,681 --> 00:34:53,801 Speaker 1: just so grateful for you. See soon. 654 00:34:54,001 --> 00:34:54,401 Speaker 2: Bye,