WEBVTT - How Mitchell Pearce found peace in Islam!

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<v Speaker 1>I want to actually– like you've gone through a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a positive life change. You've converted to Islam.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you find Islam?

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<v Speaker 3>Brothers, it's been a really cool journey. I found it

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<v Speaker 3>when I went back to Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So I stopped drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Anytime I've stayed on the straight and narrow and taken

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<v Speaker 2>out devilish behavior or bad things out of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>I've always gone to a higher power.

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<v Speaker 3>I've always felt.

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<v Speaker 2>A spiritual connection, but I'd never grew up with a religion.

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<v Speaker 2>I've read into separate religions over the years. I've read

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<v Speaker 2>into Buddhism.

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<v Speaker 3>For a bit, Christianity a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But to be honest, when I went back overseas, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a big Muslim community in Perpignan, close to Africa and

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<v Speaker 2>Morocco and Algeria.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Families that move into the south of France, mainly Algerians.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife is half Algerian. So the second year when

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<v Speaker 2>I went back with a clear mind and a mindset

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<v Speaker 2>to change, like I gave up the drink and I

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<v Speaker 2>naturally always went to higher and did some soul searching.

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<v Speaker 2>A good friend of mine over there that I knew

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<v Speaker 2>before was a Muslim guy. Around that time, I started

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<v Speaker 2>to also connect with my wife. It was only early days,

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<v Speaker 2>but obviously she's a Muslim girl. Our friends locally were Muslims.

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<v Speaker 2>So that sort of was where the curiosity started. I

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<v Speaker 2>started going to the mosque with my mate and just

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<v Speaker 2>started feeling peace, man. Like, to be honest, I'd go

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<v Speaker 2>to the mosque. I started feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>Peace in my heart.

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<v Speaker 2>I started slowly trying to practice Islam I obviously started

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<v Speaker 2>reading the Koran in an English version, obviously. But obviously

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<v Speaker 2>being a white Western Australian, the Arabic side of things

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<v Speaker 2>was a slow process.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But, man, more than anything, it was the first religion

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<v Speaker 2>or faith that I sort of felt where I felt

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of peace.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved the culture of Islam.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved through my wife and our community and Muslim friends,

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<v Speaker 2>I loved the way the Muslims.

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<v Speaker 3>Treated family the way that they.

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<v Speaker 2>The peace that a lot of the friends of mine

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<v Speaker 2>were living with. And then obviously my relationship with my

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<v Speaker 2>wife opened up the curiosity more naturally.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, man, it's been a really good journey. And

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<v Speaker 2>I converted about three, three and a half years ago now.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, it was slow steps at the start.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the whole transition gave me direction and purpose

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<v Speaker 2>and Um, and the more I've grown into my faith, um,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been a, it's been a huge North star, man. Like, um,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of my prayers have been answered. Um, as

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<v Speaker 2>a person, my, my temperament and my, the patience in

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<v Speaker 2>my life is, have had huge transformations and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>just feel a sense of direction since.

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<v Speaker 3>I've had, since I've converted.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it's, it was a sort of funny, um,

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<v Speaker 2>situation for me when i came back to australia at

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<v Speaker 2>the start i.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember yeah we had that little we met up as

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<v Speaker 1>well and yeah i think you brought it up actually

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<v Speaker 1>you brought it up to me yeah and uh i

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<v Speaker 1>don't think you brought it up to the world no

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't you didn't tell people that you converted yet

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<v Speaker 1>no uh But when you did, how did you start

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a bit more comfortable being here? Because obviously over

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<v Speaker 1>there you're comfortable. You don't really know that many people there,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not going to judge you for it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you come back here being Mitch Pierce,

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<v Speaker 1>the ex-NRL superstar, that you were going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of attention from it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you say judgment, it's such a taboo topic,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it? Because it's something that I hate about the

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<v Speaker 2>world and it's such a taboo subject of religion and all.

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<v Speaker 3>This preconceived– judgment. But it's cool that you say it

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<v Speaker 3>because I did feel that.

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<v Speaker 2>And saying that, the whole transition and the– I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>come out and spoke about– I've spoke about Islam bits

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<v Speaker 2>and pieces. I think the journos have done a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of stories. I think most people are aware that I converted.

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<v Speaker 2>It's obviously a.

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<v Speaker 3>Private thing, but I'm more than comfortable that people know.

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<v Speaker 2>But, yeah, I suppose my fears at the start when

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<v Speaker 2>I did come back were there naturally a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Um just to how people would.

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<v Speaker 2>Perceive it um but yeah it's that stuff's way out

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<v Speaker 2>of my mind now what i've found with faith for

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<v Speaker 2>me uh it's been very organic uh it's given me

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<v Speaker 2>as i said before it's given me direction and purpose

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<v Speaker 2>um i know when you know i worship god and

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<v Speaker 2>i follow principles and disciplines um my life has just

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<v Speaker 2>been a lot more peaceful and happy and I met

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<v Speaker 2>my beautiful wife. I believe that nothing's a coincidence in life.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I really believe that. And I've always believed that.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith allowed me to dive into that even more.

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<v Speaker 1>It's given you a foundation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's given me a.

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<v Speaker 2>Foundation and the routines and the principles of Islam is

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<v Speaker 2>something that really caught me. You know, you stop for

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<v Speaker 2>your five prayers. The gratitude and blessings that I get

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<v Speaker 2>out of that, you know, I've had some really amazing

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<v Speaker 2>experiences where my prayers have been answered, you know, continuously

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel being a human being and imperfect in

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<v Speaker 2>every way, like we all are, I know that when

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<v Speaker 2>I go away from what can get tempted in everyday

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<v Speaker 2>life and get distracted, I lose my alignment.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why, you know, it's been such a.

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<v Speaker 2>Good thing to find God and it's been an amazing transition, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro, I'm stoked for you. Like I feel if it's

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<v Speaker 1>serving you and you feel a sense of belonging, you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting nothing but positives, then like– what's there to regret,

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<v Speaker 1>what's there to kind of like feel embarrassed about, what's there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? Like you should feel proud

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<v Speaker 1>and like talk about your personal journey because you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be someone else out there that has gone

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<v Speaker 1>through a similar situation like yourself. And like we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about judgment, like I'm like you, like I don't understand

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<v Speaker 1>how people are so quick to judge. Like you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>feel embarrassed or no one should judge you for, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>finding Islam and having that as a positive thing in

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<v Speaker 1>your life. You know, I think there's, Good and bad

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<v Speaker 1>in every religion. That's the reality of the world, unfortunately.

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<v Speaker 1>There's good and bad in every culture. But, again, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to the person, the individual. And, like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're giving off good values, you're respectful, me as a person,

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<v Speaker 1>why shouldn't I, you know, be respectful back and just

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<v Speaker 1>accept you for you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? No, definitely. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's the biggest change.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had, like, being, as I said, a white Western

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<v Speaker 2>kid from Sydney and You're obviously Lebanese.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've grown up and seen a lot of different perspectives.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as, I guess, out of the ordinary for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got Muslim mates, I've got Christian mates, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of lives. But for me, being brought up

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<v Speaker 1>in a Lebanese household and going to Lebanon, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of assimilate. It's almost like 50-50. We all live together

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<v Speaker 1>in peace and harmony. But like you said, it's harder

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<v Speaker 1>for you. And it's a bit more like, whoa, like

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bit like a knee-jerk reaction, like, oh, my God,

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<v Speaker 1>Mitchell Pierce is Muslim now?

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<v Speaker 2>In saying that, brother, I never really got that much

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<v Speaker 2>strange reaction. Like it was actually really organic. And at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, everyone's living their own life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, you know, you don't meet someone and

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<v Speaker 3>straight away say, oh, what's your faith? I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk to you. I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's something that, you know, I hate about the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been able to live in two different cultures,

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<v Speaker 2>which has been amazing. A lot of my friends overseas

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<v Speaker 2>are Arabic, French-speaking Arabics. Um, and, and there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful different perspectives that they see the world than how

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<v Speaker 2>I potentially live around different friends and family here.

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<v Speaker 3>I've, I've always had mates from.

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<v Speaker 2>All different cultures growing up and I've known Muslim boys

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<v Speaker 2>and Christian people all my life, but the perspective changes

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<v Speaker 2>is also been amazing, you know, just to see and

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<v Speaker 2>learn and find yourself in that sort of face.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, man, like, um, you know, so many.

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<v Speaker 2>Good things has come into my life through the discipline of,

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<v Speaker 2>of Islam and, um, I love speaking about it because

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<v Speaker 2>I've just seen so many positive changes and it's made

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<v Speaker 2>me a better man, a more accountable man, taken more

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<v Speaker 2>responsibility and given me direction that I wouldn't say my

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<v Speaker 2>life was ever unhappy or that I was lost, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably searching for short-term fixes where I know

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<v Speaker 2>when you've got a North Star and you're following your

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<v Speaker 2>faith and being guided, purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Good things happen and it's only a benefit for people, man.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's on their own journey.

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<v Speaker 2>And, uh, you know, whatever it is, it's the guide

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<v Speaker 2>you is meant to be, but this was my journey

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<v Speaker 2>so far and it's, it's been, it's been good, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Unbelievable, bro. Well done.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, brother.

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<v Speaker 1>How was it, um, speaking to your family about it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was, my family were great. Like, um, naturally

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<v Speaker 2>I had a little bit of a angst. I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 2>independent in that regard. And, um, I'm not, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get too caught up with, with being controlled by what

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<v Speaker 2>other people think with stuff like that, especially deep decisions. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>But I got religiously married to my wife overseas. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a pretty private sort of thing. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>new experience for me, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so cool. Yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 2>So like you can imagine it all happens fast as

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<v Speaker 2>love happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Life changes so quick.

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<v Speaker 3>It happens so fast, man.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing it's made me realize without getting too

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<v Speaker 2>deep on you is nothing's a coincidence.

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<v Speaker 3>I agree. And when you get.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of yourself and you trust– the God that's guiding

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<v Speaker 2>you or however people want to perceive their journey, um

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<v Speaker 2>it all sort of makes sense and yeah man i

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<v Speaker 2>got religiously married which was a which was an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>experience um yeah i won't lie in those early days

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<v Speaker 2>even my missus laughed because her friends that you know

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<v Speaker 2>that it was it was a funny experience gone from

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Not being a part of that culture. Next minute you're

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<v Speaker 3>getting religiously married. That's what I'm saying. You're in your

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<v Speaker 3>30s now.

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<v Speaker 1>You've never been introduced to the culture. You have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what it entails. And then out of nowhere, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you find a connection and you're intrigued and

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<v Speaker 1>you go in further and further and then boom, next

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<v Speaker 1>thing you know you're fully committed. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it is.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, man, I'm the happiest I've ever been

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<v Speaker 2>and I've found peace with my family. I've got a

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful wife, beautiful little daughter. And, you know, faith is

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<v Speaker 2>a great guidance for us. As I said before, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not perfect. None of us are perfect. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've found clarity in the faith, man. And I respect

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<v Speaker 2>anyone's faith. And I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, this space that I've tapped into now with

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<v Speaker 2>Toddy around Reboot and helping the youth, it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone needs a direction and a purpose in life.

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<v Speaker 3>And I believe that it's there for everyone. It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you've just got to clear out the shit.

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to clear out the– the white noise, the temptations.

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<v Speaker 2>Faith's a beautiful thing for that. It's not the only

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<v Speaker 2>way for people, but it is a beautiful thing for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But people have to find their own way. But, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you find your peace when you get out

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<v Speaker 2>of all that other shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it, bro.