WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 13 May 0:00:03.080 --> 0:00:05.400 Welcome late Bay. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:09.399 Well, good evening and thanks for joining us. I'm James 0:00:09.480 --> 0:00:12.920 Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond. And speaking of 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:16.239 Caleb Bond, unlike him, I am not into horse racing 0:00:16.360 --> 0:00:19.560 at all, but I reckon I could be after listening 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:22.439 to one race caller will play you his unique call 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:23.680 in just a moment. 0:00:23.720 --> 0:00:26.160 I really wondered where you were going with that, James, 0:00:26.440 --> 0:00:29.040 when you're speaking of Oh my god, what's he going 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:29.480 to say. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:30.440 About heart within your mouth? 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.720 I thought, Oh no, my my deepest and dark place 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:35.440 to be revealed. 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.640 No, no, it's nothing bad. It's just Caleb loves his 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.360 horses and I've never been interested. But I promise you 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:42.920 the race caller will say a little later he's not 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:45.520 too bad at all. Plus, when we look at what's 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:49.160 making news tomorrow, Chris Bowen doubles down on his renewables 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:53.240 dream after the election result, and the Victorian State government 0:00:53.280 --> 0:00:56.480 on a collision course with the Truth Telling Commission that 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.440 they themselves commissioned. All of that when we get to 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:02.960 tomorrow's headlines, But first, let me start with a question. 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.920 What do you think would be important qualifications for school teachers? 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:11.080 I imagine you might say, well, they should be familiar 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:14.600 with the subject matter, they should have a mastery of 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:18.840 teaching techniques, maybe be adept at behavioral management. All of 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.240 those things make sense, right, But I'm pretty sure none 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:25.720 of you would say, I think teachers it's really important 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.160 that they understand indigenous culture and anti racism. And yet 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:33.319 that is exactly what the New South Wales government is 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:37.800 requiring of all teaching graduates before they are allowed into 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:41.240 our classrooms. A statement from the New South Wales Education 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.240 Department published in the Daily Mail today reads, and I quote, 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:50.440 all staff must complete the mandatory training Aboriginal cultural education. 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:53.960 It's called Let's take the First Step Together, and training 0:01:54.000 --> 0:01:58.360 on the anti racism policy and their responsibility to actively 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:04.160 challenge racism. Now this compulsory module. It's not compulsory for 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:07.240 you to graduate, but if you graduate without doing this module, 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:10.760 you can never teach in New South Wales. It instructs 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:15.000 potential teachers on an overview of Indigenous languages, a knowledge 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:19.960 of significant Aboriginal people and Aboriginal sites, and an understanding 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:23.040 of the impact that government policies have had on Indigenous 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:26.520 people over the past couple of one hundred years. Now 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.640 the Education Department says this is very important because it 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.200 will help the teachers in New South Wales classrooms to 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:39.560 improve cultural safety quote unquote for Aboriginal students. Calebin Liz 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.440 good idea or bad idea. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:43.920 This is absolutely nuts. 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:47.480 We have a national teacher shortage in Australia. Every state 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:51.600 and territory is crying out for more teachers. In New 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:56.320 South Wales where these rules are now applying, as of January, 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:00.880 we had one thousand, two hundred and ninety for teacher 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:04.240 vacancies in the state alone, and we're told that's a 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.320 good thing because it's a four year low. So apparently 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.520 that figure is something to be rejoiced over. 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:12.560 A four year low. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:17.320 Just just under thirteen hundred vacancies in the state of 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:21.080 New South Wales. And that's just speaking of one state. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:25.160 And is it any wonder when all the research that 0:03:25.400 --> 0:03:29.839 talks about this national teacher shortage repeatedly says that one 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.760 of the really important elements to this is a lack 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:38.040 of people's respect for the profession. It has fallen in 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:42.240 people's esteem, and that is across the board. Is it 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:46.640 any wonder when parents are becoming increasingly aware of the 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:51.640 fact that these are indoctrinators, not educators, and the state 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:55.400 is doing nothing to hide the hand that they're playing. 0:03:55.520 --> 0:03:58.280 Here got to baptize the up and coming teachers in 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:01.480 white guilt so they can do the same when they 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:02.960 reach the classroom. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:05.680 This is just utter nonsense. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:10.000 When we have kids failing the most basic tenants of 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:13.760 their education. We saw last year in was it the 0:04:13.880 --> 0:04:19.040 napland results one in three kids did not meet the 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:24.360 standard requirements of grammar and spelling. And this is what 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.440 we're grilling our teachers. And we've also talked at length 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:32.279 countless times about the poor standards of teachers and the 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.760 fact that they are dropping requirements tertiary requirements for these 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:40.480 teachers because we're so desperate for them. It's like, oh, actually, 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.560 if your ATA is not that up to scratch, you 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:45.520 can still qualify for teaching. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.480 It's utterly ridiculous. 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.360 That anyone thinks that this is a priority right now 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:52.440 in our education system. 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.640 Will you have to ask the question, and I have 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:57.280 asked this a number of times and columns I've written 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.520 over the years, if your objective were to be a 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.720 good teacher, why would you bother going into the profession anymore? 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.080 Because you get bogged down in all of this garbage. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:09.680 You know, it starts at UNI and then you get 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.919 into the classroom and then they'll dictate to you. The 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.520 department will dictate to all this work stuff that you 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.040 have to do. And then you have to come up 0:05:16.040 --> 0:05:18.640 against all the other teachers, who of course are going 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.479 along with all of this stuff. And if you raise 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:22.360 your hand and say, well, actually, I just want to 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.080 get on with the job of teaching, you get bullied out, 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:28.240 et cetera, et cetera. Why would you bother to put 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.080 up with all that nonsense if you just wanted to 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.760 make sure that the next generation of kids had as 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.240 much knowledge as they could and could be good members 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.880 of society. And you mentioned the a tarslies what we 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.960 were talking recently about people with eight has less than 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.120 fifty getting into teaching, and that puts you in like 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:49.320 the bottom quarter of people who graduated from high school, 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.440 and then you can go and study teaching. Earlier this year, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.160 we found out that seven and a half percent of 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:59.039 teaching graduates couldn't pass the literacy test that they have 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.520 to take at the end of their degrees. Four point 0:06:01.560 --> 0:06:04.799 seven percent couldn't pass the numeracy test they get three 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:09.159 goes at that test. Right, these are the problems that 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.760 we're facing. And of course they're going into UNI and 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:14.680 studying teaching, having already come out of the school system 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:17.479 themselves where they were let down because they didn't learn 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.400 reading and writing and spelling and whatever properly. So they 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.040 then go off to UNI and are only as good 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:23.760 as the teachers that came before them. And then we 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:26.000 say they will go and be the best teachers of 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.839 the next generation. So forget about fixing up the problems 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.520 with literacy and numeracy and etars, but let's teach them 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.680 to be culturally aware and more than that, anti racist. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.760 And that's the whole anti racist thing really gratees me 0:06:40.920 --> 0:06:44.920 because it is departmental policy that, you know, it's not 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.919 good enough to say that you don't like racism. You 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:52.840 have to somehow actively fight racism. But what is to 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.120 actively fight racism? I mean is it to say I 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.440 witnessed a student being racist to another student, so I 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.520 sent him to detention. Well, that's what every teacher would 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.279 do anyway. I mean, you have disorder in your classroom, 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.800 you're seeing a student to detention. Know what they mean 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.840 is that you have to lecture the students about racism 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.480 and tell them that if they're white, that they have 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:17.040 all this guilt and nation feel bad about what their 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.920 ancestors did to Aboriginal people and every other mob under 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.520 the sun. I mean, for most of us, our ancestors 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:27.080 did nothing because we weren't here when this joint was colonized. 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.200 If you can prove to me that you were one 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:31.080 of the people who came in on the first fleet, 0:07:31.080 --> 0:07:34.000 different discussion. For most of us, we don't have that connection. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.520 It's not good enough to confront racism when and if 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.320 you find it to be means you've got to hunt 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.280 it down, and you've got to go seeking instances of 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:46.040 racism so that you can address them. I'm always curious 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.040 about this term cultural safety, and I'd love to know 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:51.840 how Indigenous kids, who matter as much as every other kid, 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.880 are unsafe in our classrooms. But I don't think that's 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.600 what this is really all about. Because this module that 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:01.880 is compulsory, as I said, in New Southwest Teachers, is 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:05.400 put together in partnership with a non government organization called 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.480 the Aboriginal Educational Consultative Group, who state on their website 0:08:09.480 --> 0:08:11.640 that the whole point of this module is to quote 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:16.960 ensure unique and diverse identity of Aboriginal students is recognized 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:21.560 and valued. So it sounds less about stopping something terrible 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:24.560 happening that's going on that we're all unaware of, and 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:28.880 more about deliberately and purposefully promoting the indigenous culture, which 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.960 of course leaves open the question what about all the 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:32.959 other cultures we're in our class? 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.800 And that's the thing. You start with one, you'll eventually 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:37.520 have to move on to all of them. And I mean, 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.040 can you imagine these lecturers in the unis and these 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.679 teaching students, They must be having kittens if they had 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.240 a look at what Sukia Stama said the Prime Minister 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:49.440 of the United Kingdom overnight. I mean he's had a 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.280 real come to Jesus moment. Now he's taken a look 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.400 at the polling. Of course that is now showing in 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:58.080 the UK that if there were a general election today, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.559 the party that would get the most votes is Nigel 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:05.280 Faraja's Reform, and of course sa Farage talking to Paul 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.160 Murray just before you can see the numbers there. This 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.400 was taken on May the six, twenty nine percent, so 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.800 they would vote for Reform which makes them the top 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:18.880 party the Tories Conservatives only seventeen percent and Labor the 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.160 current government twenty two percent, and they have more than 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.520 four hundred seats Labor, it should be noted. And yes, 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.839 it's the first part the post system, so it is 0:09:26.880 --> 0:09:29.679 a different system to us, and it does make you know, 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.880 they have different results on the basis of where people vote. 0:09:33.000 --> 0:09:37.160 But popularly across the country, reform is now in the 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.080 box seat and we saw that translate through in the 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.080 local government elections that they had on the same weekend 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.480 that we had our federal election. So Sukia has woken 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.640 up and said, geez, we've got to do something to 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.160 arrest this decline of the Labor Party. We've got to 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.760 get votes back from reform. So he's turned tough guy 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.080 on immigration. Now if he believes any of this, I 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.880 have to say, it's brilliant. I mean, I wish we 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:03.160 I had heard this out of the mouths of conservative 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:06.440 leaders around the world. He has said the stuff that 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.960 other people have been afraid to say. He wants to 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:14.320 deport more foreign criminals. Yes. Good. He says that local 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:18.440 staff should be prioritized over foreign staff. Good. He said 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:21.560 there should be tighter rules around family so that you 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.640 can't just come to the UK illegally and then get 0:10:24.679 --> 0:10:26.600 someone up the duff and then say well I've got 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.240 kids now I can't leave. Tighten the rules around that 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:32.040 so you can't get away with it anymore. Because in 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.120 the UK, net migration for the twelve months to June 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.240 was seven hundred and twenty eight thousand. Under the Tories 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.920 got as high as nine hundred thousand a year. When 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.560 you're talking about a country of sixty seventy odd million people, 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:52.040 they are huge numbers to be inserting into the country 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.240 every year. So Kia says he'd like to get it 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:58.400 down to as much by twenty twenty nine as three 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.800 hundred thousand a year. That is a serious cut. Here 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.760 he was talking about classmat So. 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:09.000 When you have an immigration system that seems almost designed 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:13.840 to permit abuse, that encourages some businesses to bring in 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.680 lower paid workers rather than invest in our young people, 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.760 or simply one that is sold by politicians to the 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:26.320 British people on an entirely false premise, then you're not 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:31.839 championing growth, you're not championing justice or how else people 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:36.760 defend the status quo. You're actually contributing to the forces 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:42.080 that are slowly pulling our country apart. So yes, I 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:47.679 believe in this. I believe we need to reduce immigration significantly. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.080 I mean, if only we heard these words added in 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:56.440 our country, I believe we need to reduce immigration. He 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:58.760 also warned about the fact that if you want a 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.680 country to serve and be successful, you have to abide 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:05.040 by the rule of law. And if you don't do that, 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:06.599 there are consequences. 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.679 Now in a diverse nation like ours, and I celebrate 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:17.360 that these rules become even more important. Without them, we 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.720 were becoming an island of strangers. 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.560 An island of strangers. What a brilliant line. Why has 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.559 no one else said this before? 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:27.000 He said? 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:31.000 Quote we need to take back control of our borders, 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:33.640 he tweeted last night. If you want to live in 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:37.560 the UK, you should speak English. That's common sense. So 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:43.400 we're raising English language requirements across every main immigration route. 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:47.080 I mean, this is extraordinary stuff. This is a labor 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.880 Prime Minister need I remind you, saying the staff that 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:55.239 the coalition was too afraid to say here in Australia, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.920 and to be perfectly honest, I don't care if he's 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.800 only been shocked into this because of the numbers he's 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:05.080 seen from Reform. It is the first time I've actually 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:09.040 seen someone in a long time in Australia. US is 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.000 a different discussion. We get to that a little bit later, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:15.160 but you know, the UK, Canada, Australia our major allies. 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.440 It's the first time in a long time I've seen 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:20.760 someone stand up and say it as straight as this. 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:23.880 We must take control of our borders back. We need 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:26.440 to lower immigration. I can't believe what I'm. 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:29.840 Hear that anyone who believes him can't have a single 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:34.160 firing neuron. This is the guy who came into power 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:39.120 last year because the Conservatives had allowed almost a million 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.040 immigrants into the country the year prior, and Britz, well 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:44.760 we've had enough of it. 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:46.280 You guys are gone. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.320 Ski Labor gets in and just continues the same old, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.480 same old. They knew the issue that had won them 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:57.319 the election, and they changed nothing, which is why, as 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.280 Caleb said, the weekend before last, we saw the Reform 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:07.720 Party in local government elections get thirty percent of. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:08.440 The vote share. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.720 They won six hundred and seventy seven seats across the UK. 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.400 Labor lost over one hundred the Conservatives lost over six 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:23.480 hundred and reform was just snapping them all up. Germany 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:27.720 did exactly the same thing when they saw in their 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:31.520 state elections last year that they got an absolute thumping 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.800 from the far right AfD all of a sudden that 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.000 then Chancellor got up and said, oh, well, we're we're 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:42.960 cracking down on immigration. We're going to tougher up our borders. 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:45.880 We hear you, and we are going to deliver. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:51.160 No one believed him rightly so, and the German population 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:55.360 went on to give them an absolute hiding at the 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:59.720 federal election, which saw the AfD become the most popular 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.800 part in Germany. 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.760 So that's what these governments do. 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.400 They watch the local elections, they watch the state elections. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:08.280 It of course is. 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:12.560 A brilliant gauge of the public rage, and then they say, oh, 0:15:12.600 --> 0:15:16.160 we better do something about this, otherwise we are cooked. 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:20.160 I don't care what Starmer says. Now he is cooked. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:24.480 Who's to say because he refused to really speak to numbers. 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.840 He said he wanted to get it down by the 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:30.120 next election in twenty twenty nine, but he refused to 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:34.080 actually commit to a number. Now as Prime Minister he 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.120 has the power to do that. He said he was 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:43.240 ending a quote experiment in open borders end quote who 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:48.200 voted for that experiment? Prime minister? Who voted for that experiment? 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:53.600 Absolutely nobody, And yet he's carried it on just like 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:56.040 the Conservatives did, despite knowing. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:56.760 That's why he won. 0:15:57.200 --> 0:15:58.880 There's a couple of things I thought when I heard 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:01.480 his comments. The first thing I thought was, gee, the 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:03.560 Poles must be bad, and that's before I saw the 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.400 poll that you showed at the top, so obviously he's 0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.160 reacting to the rise of Nigel Faraj, as you said, Caleb. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.480 The other thing I thought when I heard his remarks 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:16.160 was that the next time we see Kirs Starmer it 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.440 will be in prison, because surely if you say immigrants 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.960 should speak English, the next thing you know, you'll have 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.040 a Bobby on your front or raising you for a 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:26.880 racist tweet. In fact, Kirs Starmer has been at the 0:16:26.920 --> 0:16:30.160 forefront of that sort of policing, and that's the great 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.520 irony here. He's saying the very things that he himself 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.800 was demonizing other people for saying. You said, Caleb, an 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.360 island of strangers. It's a great line. Why haven't we 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.880 heard that one before? I'll tell you why, because you'd 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.000 be in fear of being arrested if you'd said that line. 0:16:46.320 --> 0:16:48.400 If Kios Starmer is serious about this, and he's a 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.240 human rights lawyer before he came to power, the first 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:54.160 thing they should do is withdraw from the European Convention 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.880 on Human Rights, which we've sat here and talked about 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.600 the way that asylum seekers who've been convicted of offenses 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:05.760 have then used that agreement that the UK have with 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.879 the European Union to find all sorts of loopholes to 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.800 stay in the country. So if he's serious, there's plenty 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:13.920 he can do. He's qualified to do it. But I 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:16.000 think you're right. I think everyone will sit back and 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:19.440 think these are mere words. And of course Nigel frag 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:20.639 that was his take on the whole thing. 0:17:20.920 --> 0:17:25.120 Absolute bogus, as transparent as freshly cleaned glass. 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.159 He says, oh, we're going to have all control of 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:27.840 the borders. 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:32.800 Well, that's your Prime Minister UK admitting he'd lost control 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:35.480 of the borders. And of course we know these things 0:17:35.520 --> 0:17:39.639 don't happen by accidents, but to a country where immigration 0:17:39.880 --> 0:17:42.879 seems to becoming less of a problem in the US, 0:17:42.960 --> 0:17:47.000 where of course Donald Trump was elected by the people 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:51.200 with a mandate to crack down on the insane levels 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:55.200 of illegal immigration that had flooded into the country during 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:59.879 the tenure of the Biden administration. Even conservative numbers s 0:18:00.160 --> 0:18:04.280 made over ten million people flooded into the country. 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.679 The White House now says that has. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:11.680 Cost American taxpayers in twenty twenty three alone one hundred 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:17.000 and fifty billion dollars housing these people, settling these people, 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.800 feeding these people, trying to get these people jobs. Again, 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.320 did those taxpayers vote for such a move? 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:26.719 Absolutely not. 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:30.760 Well, the Trump administration is crowing about how much they've 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:34.880 been able to achieve within the first one hundred days 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.040 in the job, and most recently, this video eclip went 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:43.760 viral shared by the Texan Border Force Facility, just showing 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:47.160 you what a difference just a few years can make. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:20.720 Gone Ski from absolutely bulging with illegals waiting to be 0:19:20.840 --> 0:19:24.600 processed at the border, which the Biden administration was more 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:29.480 than willing to facilitate. Under the Trump administration, it no 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:34.080 longer exists. It's just a patch of scorched grass. Check 0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:39.359 out these numbers RNC Research pulled out of recent CBP data. 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.640 It's gone from April twenty twenty four, so just last year, 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:48.120 where over one hundred and twenty eight thousand illegal aliens 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:52.960 were apprehended at the Southern border, to just eight thousand, 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:57.119 three hundred and eighty three illegal aliens at the Southern. 0:19:56.760 --> 0:19:59.160 Border this April. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:04.440 I mean bought the difference Bill muleagen tweets breaking. Internal 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:09.120 CBP data obtained by Fox News reveals border patrol apprehended 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:12.080 eighty three hundred and eighty three illegal aliens at the 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:16.879 Southern border in April, down ninety three percent from nearly 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:21.479 one thousand, sorry one hundred and twenty nine thousand in 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:26.600 the prior April. Per CBP data, only five aliens were 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.960 released in April this April, compared to roughly sixty eight 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:36.600 thousand released last April under the BIDED and admllustration. CBP 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:40.800 says the five releases were only temporary for special interest 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.399 court cases. April twenty twenty five average two hundred and 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:48.680 seventy nine Border patrol apprehensions of illegal aliens per day 0:20:49.200 --> 0:20:55.000 average twenty twenty four. In April, the average was four thousand, 0:20:55.200 --> 0:21:01.639 two hundred and ninety seven, So that's less four thousand 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:03.440 more than four thousand. 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:07.160 Less per day. Because of course, when the Trump administration comes. 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.159 In News travels like, hey, don't bother going to the 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:10.960 border anymore. 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.359 They've shut up shop, and. 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.840 All the traffickers, all the illegals would be illegals go, well, 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:22.600 we we're just absolutely wasting our time. I love Trump 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.560 admins their Project Homecoming, where. 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.080 They're now offering illegals. 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.920 They're saying, out yourselves, we'll give you one hundred We'll 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.000 give you a thousand dollars in cash American dollars, a 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:37.720 thousand bucks to leave. All you have to do is 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:41.520 rock up at any airport in America. We the government 0:21:41.880 --> 0:21:44.040 will pay for it because in the long run, we're 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:47.720 saving billions of dollars by getting you out of the country. 0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:51.880 Trump has literally said, out yourselves, get yourselves to an airport, 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:57.040 one thousand dollars cash, free flight to anywhere you want 0:21:57.119 --> 0:21:59.840 to go, as long as it's not here, we want 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:00.720 you out. 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:04.879 Can I just be completely clear he is, because this 0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.840 is mind blowing stuff. Are you saying that if you 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:12.879 shut the border it stops people coming over the border? 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:16.440 I am WHOA, I can't believe it. I mean, who 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.160 would have thought? Who would have thought it was this simple? 0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.119 And I mean Biden was Johnny come lately towards the 0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.199 end of his presidency, and you know, a bit like 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.000 Starmer in the UK started going, oh, you know, we've 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.159 got to do something about the border. We've got a 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.640 problem down on the border. And of course we had 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:35.440 the borders. Kamala Harris, who I don't know if she 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:37.680 went down there once or twice, and they actually cleared 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.920 everyone out of the way so the cameras wouldn't see 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:44.040 everyone that was there, but Biden as one of literally 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:47.080 one of the first things he did when he became 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:52.199 president was issue executive orders to rescind the executive orders 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:55.399 that Trump had put out to secure the border and 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:58.680 build the wall. It was literally one of the first 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:03.360 things he did within days of becoming present was unwind 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.920 all of that. And then of course people walked over 0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:08.280 the border. Who would have thought that was going to happen, 0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.439 And of course that was all by design. He wanted 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:12.880 those people to walk over the border because once they're 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:15.080