WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 11 May 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.840 From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. All right, 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:11.520 so cayleb let me explain to the jail person after 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.600 the show. All right, after the show, thank you so 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.680 much for watching wherever you're happy to be big Sunday 0:00:16.760 --> 0:00:19.440 night ahead, including our bold predictions for the week ahead. 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:22.400 But as the weather starts to cool off in much 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.760 of the country, it gets even better in the magical 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.560 state of Queensland. And that's the next location for our 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.280 ourtown event once a month where we go to regional 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:32.720 Australian and we celebrate all that he is awesome. You 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.680 can join us a couple of sun day's time, the 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:38.080 twenty fifth of May. Now as well, I have been 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:40.199 banging on and on and all the planning meetings for 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:41.639 these things. I want to do it outside. I want 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:43.840 to do it outside. But what about the weather. Well, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:47.280 fingers crossed, no rain in cans Or. Of course it'll 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.800 be for some reason a magic wet season Sunday. But 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:53.479 we'll be outside having fun pool side and yeah, I 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:56.960 may well not wear the toles. Don't worry. Sunday the 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:58.880 twenty fifth of May. Outoud. It's gone news dot com 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.200 that you outdown at skinem dot Au. All right, off 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.800 the top, let's go for the brownie points. I love 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.360 is Sharn She's of course the mother to my beautiful 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.400 two kids. We have been together since year eleven at school. 0:01:11.640 --> 0:01:14.319 We've been together for a long time, and of course 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.360 she was my favorite person in the world, and then 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.760 as the mother, becomes the favorite person in the world 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.479 to my two beautiful daughters in Asher and Zadi, who 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.240 probably need to go to bed it is a school night. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:28.600 So mums are the ones who sacrifice, the ones who 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.160 have to do it all and then a whole lot more. 0:01:31.200 --> 0:01:33.640 And in our house that is beautiful shann me doing 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.000 this job is the greatest professional thrill I had in 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:37.640 my life. But it means I don't tuck my kids in, 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:39.760 and it means often I can be sleeping when the 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.920 kids get up in the morning. So she does all 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:43.959 the hard work and I love her oh so much 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.520 and I will forevermore to my beautiful mum Jude as well, 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.680 love you, Thank you for all of your sacrifices. We 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.480 had a lovely time with Stanley and the team. It 0:01:52.600 --> 0:01:55.760 leaves for Tuna on Friday night, which was fabulous. Happy 0:01:55.800 --> 0:01:58.360 birthday to her, as well, and to all of the 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:01.080 mums who are the new mums first around, to all 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.240 of those that have seen many a Mother's Day before, 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:05.240 and also strength and love to all that we think 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.440 about on this particular day because Mum's no longer with us. 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.560 So again, strength and love and happy Mother's Day. What 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.120 a beautiful time it is as we all celebrate and 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.839 love the most important people in our family. Well, of course, 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:19.639 today was everything from I'll meet you for brunch, I'll 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.560 pick you up, I'll take you for a drive, let's 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:23.639 go up the mountains. We'll go for a drive, we'll 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:24.600 have some fish and chips. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:24.880 Love. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:27.280 Whatever Mum wants to do, we do it, and we 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.359 try to do it in droves. Few other people, well, 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:32.560 they're a little different than you and I because they're 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.360 up and fight and fit, and they are out and 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.400 about and all around the country people were doing all 0:02:37.480 --> 0:02:40.000 sorts of runs for the mums that they have no 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.040 have lost through things like ovarian and breast cancer, or 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:46.640 the women who have survived it, or of course the 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.680 men who love those women. Oh, so to everyone who 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.079 was involved in those runs today, again, congratulations to each 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.160 and every one of you, and love to your mums too. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.840 The wife was diagnosed and she has come through that 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:03.520 experience very well. So we're celebrating with a runner. 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.880 She walked into our house today and she said, oh, 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:07.760 they're going for a ten care line. 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:13.160 Now. One of the unique ways that people have mentioned 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.840 mothers today was by the Defense Force. Good on this 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.600 then normally they do this for say Christmas Day, but 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.440 the Australian Defense Force, via their media organization, has gone 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:24.520 off and given an opportunity for the people who are 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:27.160 serving their country and are not able to see their 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.120 mums today, be it from the other part of the 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:30.800 country or maybe the other side of the world. As 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.040 you can see, they had their chance to say Happy 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.000 Mother's Day, so on their behalf, happy Mother's Day to 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:37.000 their mums. 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:43.960 Hey mom, it's me your favorite daughter. Happy Mother's Day. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:47.560 Love you guys, and thank you so much for your service. 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:50.960 All right now, I could sit here and do what 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.360 we kind of did maybe too much of last week 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.080 but still relevant, which was to go over the reaction 0:03:56.160 --> 0:03:57.640 to the election. But I'm not going to put you 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:00.480 through that tonight. Relax, even though I could you all 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:04.040 of the details from all of the entrials, including the 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.160 ABC who went and found people who said the reason 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.280 they didn't vote for the Liberal Party was because the 0:04:08.320 --> 0:04:10.680 slogan get austrated back on track was too clothes to 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:14.280 make Astra make America great again. What no back on 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:15.640 track was a reference to the fact that more than 0:04:15.680 --> 0:04:17.599 fifty percent of the country thinks the country is in 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.720 the wrong direction, the wrong track, but anyway. And then 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:22.040 there were the people who said that it's all the 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:24.080 work from home stuff, and that's the reason why they 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:26.839 decided to invote whatever. You've heard it all before, you've 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.680 also heard almost any and every person with any tangential 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:31.960 or serious connection of the Liberal Party saying, well, their 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.039 plan is for the next three years, any. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.880 And all the policies we took to the election we 0:04:37.000 --> 0:04:39.120 will need to review and revisit. It doesn't mean we're 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:40.680 going to dub them all, but it also doesn't mean 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:41.840 we automatically keep them. 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:45.000 There is nothing wrong with the Liberal Party's values, but 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:49.599 its capacity to project those values through policy, through leadership, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.120 through through its language, through its offering to the public 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:56.479 is I think where we let ourselves down. 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.320 Now valuable conversation and one that we have to have 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:01.080 in droops and drabs over the next three years. But 0:05:01.279 --> 0:05:04.640 I probably rule a line under Okay, that's too much. 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:08.320 When this person turns up on the ABC and basically, look, 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.719 I'm going to take a bet hasn't voted Liberal a 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:13.600 few elections in her life, but we'll see. And her 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:16.160 suggestion for how the Liberal Party can turn itself into 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.479 anything but the Liberal Party to save itself from anything 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:20.480 about the Liberal Party. 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:23.800 I wish that someone from the Liberal Party would bring 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:24.240 me in for a day. 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:26.680 I'd given them a course on something. It'd be very helpful. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.680 What would you say to them, I would say, wake 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:30.040 up tomorrow and decide you're the teals. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.720 Wake up tomorrow and don't just emulate the kind of candidates. 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.279 You pick, but the kind of policies that they. 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:38.240 Agree on collectively. You need to be socially progressive. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.400 You are living one hundred years ago and you are 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.760 dreaming of this old Australia that no one in this 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.120 country wants or foresees as the future. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.799 Look, I get it bad loss too on the Trot 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:51.760 They did win an election. What in twenty nineteen, you're 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:53.640 living one hundred All this stuff this is a bit 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:55.600 like remember in the nineties when all the Howard Hages 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:58.760 used to talk about the nineteen fifties. The nineteen fifties, 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:02.760 So okay, let me say this about the plan for 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:05.080 this show going forward. Now, you know I like data. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:06.760 When there's data, I'm going to talk about data. I'm 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.640 not going to hide the reality of things. But I'm 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:10.880 also not going to wallow in things. I get it. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:12.920 I've got a lot a few complain emails last week, 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.200 and I always want to be the show that's confident 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:17.720 and forward facing and fight fight, fight. But we couldn't 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.159 have spent last week pretending that the result wasn't what 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.240 it was. And I'm not going to ignore it for 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.240 the next three years. But let's turn to some positives. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.320 And regardless of who ends up being the leader, isn't 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.239 it going to be fantastic that you Sto Nampa jimper 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.960 Price will end up as the deputy leader of the 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.960 Liberal Party. Now this is a fascinating move. Now we 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.640 know that there is a lot of trouble with the 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.920 National Party blowing up that she's left a version of 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:42.680 the National Party to join the Liberal Party, and that 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:44.840 will mean that presumably she's not going to be running 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.560 for the Senate again in two years. Time. She made 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.080 some references to a coastal community I think in New 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.080 South Wales. I'll double check, so maybe she might be 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.080 coming to the Lower House from something like that in 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.800 three years time. But regardless of who the leader is, 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:01.400 just JEPI Price looks like she will beat the deputy leader. 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.680 Should be still in this spine and she'll be able 0:07:03.680 --> 0:07:07.479 to argue with anyone anywhere what she believes in. Whether 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.360 this turns an election or not, we'll all find now. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.400 But if nothing else, that's what you want in your 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.280 political leader, right You want that if you're somebody who's 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:18.400 a hardcore green, labor liberal or whatever, that you want 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.920 somebody in the leadership structure not to say the things 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.760 that are on double check. Is this going to work? 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.400 Not going to work? Somebody who's going to shoot straight. 0:07:25.680 --> 0:07:28.080 Three examples of her shooting straight today. Number one. 0:07:29.440 --> 0:07:33.600 I have made the decision, and the decision wasn't taken lightly. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:35.920 You know, I'm very passionate about our country and the 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:40.000 direction in which it is going because I've seen how 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:43.560 socialism has destroyed the lives of those that I love 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.320 in remote communities, and with the Labor government now in 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:51.040 power for three more years, it is the most marginalized 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.480 who miss out the most, you know, let alone every 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.000 day Australians. 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:55.840 In all of this. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.320 And so I guess the fighter in me feels I'm 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.080 obliged to step up. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:05.800 Good honor now again. She could be one of these 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.280 people who, like some that were rumored, are going to 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.280 fit it out for a couple of years. Wait, a 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:13.239 couple of elections, burn the front bench, burn the back bench, 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.280 and then when there's two Liberals left, there'll be the 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.160 one that miraculously will become leader and three years later 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:20.520 we'll win seventy six seats. No, she's gone with this, 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:24.120 bugger this, I'm into the fight again. By effectively walking 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:26.960 away from the National Party the Country Liberal Party, which 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:29.840 is again aversion of the National Party in the Northern Territory, Well, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:31.840 they won't pre select her again to be a senator 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.120 even if she is the deputy leader of the Liberal 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.920 Party because of these internal games. So her putting her 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:39.200 hand up to say I want to be the deputy 0:08:39.240 --> 0:08:41.439 leader means she can find her way towards a winnable 0:08:41.440 --> 0:08:44.320 seat the next election. Then three years after that, guess 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:46.520 whom we might be talking about as a potential prime Minister. 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:50.600 She doesn't miss including about where her own party decided 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:52.840 to make some choices and win the wrong direction. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:58.400 After the result of their referendum, it was evident what 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.080 we needed to do. Instead of looking at the polls 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.280 and thinking, look, we're not going to win this, we 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.680 had to get in there and actually change the narrative, 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:13.480 lead the narrative in the argument, and also hang around 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:17.040 the neck of the Prime minister his failings pin his 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:18.679 lies to him. 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.480 I don't completely agree with that because, as I have 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.880 said before, remember Bob Hawk lost a whole bunch of referenda, 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.679 but he still won a whole bunch of terms. So 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:29.560 there's not always a straight line, and she's not saying that, 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:32.200 but there's not a straight line between losing a referendum 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:35.200 and losing government. But the opportunity to knock off the 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.040 first term government, as historically difficult as that was, well, again, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.680 most of the country disappeared for the Prime minister, most 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.400 of the country didn't vote a preference one for the 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.640 Labor Party. Most of the country still thinks that we're 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:49.720 headed in the wrong direction. So those were all vital 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.079 things that seem to have been missed. But she does 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:54.760 have a preference about who on Tuesday should be the 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:58.200 leader of the Liberal Party. She's running with the former 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.959 shadow treasurer Angus Taylor. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:06.640 He is a pragmatic, deep thinking individual who I would 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:11.680 absolutely be privileged to serve beside going forward for the 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.040 benefit of the Liberal Party. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:16.800 Now, I don't know what's going to happen inside the 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.160 Liberal Party room. It's hard to work out exactly where 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:21.000 the factions sit in how many of this and how 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:23.920 many of that, and what the goldilocks position is here 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.040 after the election, because with just forty seats, even way 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.880 down from the way down of twenty twenty two, it's 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.920 hard to work out exactly who is going to be 0:10:32.960 --> 0:10:36.400 going in which direction. But Susan Lee, she believes that 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.000 she is the best person for the job. She of 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.040 course came forward along with Angus Taylor and did the 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:43.800 unusual thing because normally it's about talking to your collicus. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:45.360 They're the only ones that are going to make the decisions. 0:10:45.360 --> 0:10:47.840 It doesn't matter what people on TV or radio think 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:51.160 about this, but they're deciding to include the people and 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:53.720 doing some videos to kind of make themselves look sort 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.400 of a bit inevitable. Dare I say so? 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:57.679 Here? 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.480 Is what Susan Laigh had to say today. Susan Leo 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:03.000 I should say about why she wants to be the 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:06.080 next leader of the Liberal Party and thus alternative Prime Minister. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:10.640 I've listened. We got it wrong. We need to do 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.600 things differently going forward, and we do need a fresh approach. 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:18.360 So on Tuesday morning, when the Liberal Party room meets 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:22.080 in Canberra, I will be putting myself forward for the 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.920 position of Leader of the Federal Party. We do need 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:29.640 to reflect a modern Liberal party meeting modern Australians in 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.040 every single walk of life across the country. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.240 As for Angus Taylor, and again, the big move in 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.240 and around your cint nampajinper Price is not just to 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.240 move votes, but also to move expectations that he will 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.199 be next in line. This was his pitch over the weekend. 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:49.280 This moment demands experience, energy and a plan. Australians want 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:52.840 more than opposition. They want a real alternative, one that 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:56.760 understands them, one that earns back their trust. I'm standing 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:00.800 for leader to make sure we're ready. Let's regroup, rebuild 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.400 and get back in the fight now. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.160 Yes, over many years I've sat here, been part of 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:09.000 the fights about the lefties of the Liberal Party or 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.480 the right we have a Liberal Party or the Bedweaders, 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:13.520 who of course are worried about their own back seats. 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.680 And in many ways, whichever third is left out is 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.440 the one that the media turns to to cause as 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.920 much trouble as possible. Why because they aren't interested in 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:25.520 the Liberal Party being competitive, let alone winning. So can everyone, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:28.640 regardless of what happens on Tuesday, not start a blood 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.200 feud that runs for the next three years, but back 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:34.840 in whoever wins on Tuesday for the next three years. 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.320 Because Dave Shama puts it. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:42.960 Right, and I think it's very important that which whatever 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:47.319 the outcome is, everyone respects the result, and everyone gets 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.400 behind the new leader and make sure that they have 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.440 the best prospects of success as possible. I know that's 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:55.920 not going to be easy, but you know, we don't 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:58.080 have the luxury of being able to tear ourselves apart 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:00.480 over the next year or two. Our party rems not enough, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:02.880 Our level of public support is not high enough to 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:04.320 indulge ourselves in that way. 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:07.280 Strong strong, strong point. I might have a little bit 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.640 to say into the future about how the Liberal Party 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:12.760 can show a little bit more discipline even when yes, 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.280 there will be some MPs that are dissatisfied with the leader, 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.400 but I'll get to that a bit later. But before 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.760 we get to Tuesday, we go through Monday and tomorrow 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.360 is when there will be a decision about the future 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.120 of the National Party. Now, remember they held on to 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:29.240 all of their seats. But there is an absolute belief 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:31.560 from people like Matt Canavan that it is time to 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:35.080 be absolute about anti ned zero, to stand in a 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:38.280 very strong position and if that even means walking away 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.280 at times from what the Liberals want, then that's what 0:13:40.320 --> 0:13:43.079 they should do. Well, David Little Proud who says no 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:47.320 greatest strength together while standing up for regional areas. This 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.720 vote happens tomorrow morning, full coverage in the morning and 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:53.559 throughout the day here on Sky News. For the current leader, 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:55.840 this is what he's saying publicly this weekend. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.280 I'm proud of my record. I'm comfortable, mind skin, but 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:03.599 it's the party room's decision. I'll have those conversations with 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:06.200 those members of the party room in a respectful way 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.719 and whatever happens happens. But I'm still committed to the 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:09.520 National Party. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:12.560 And as for Matt Canavan, his pitch about why he 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.719 now remember, well, just at an Opjeb Price, we'll be 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:17.680 running to be deputy Liberal leader. That wouldn't make her 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.960 the deputy Opposition leader. The deputy Opposition leader is always 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.680 the leader of the National Party. Hence why they become 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:28.360 the deputy prime minister. Not just the deputy Liberal becomes 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.480 the deputy prime minister. This is what Matt Canavan had 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.240 to say in his pitch again the vote tomorrow. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.360 I'm running because I think we have to end the 0:14:38.400 --> 0:14:42.560 tyranny of groupthink in our country. Over the last few years, 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:44.840 A Paul has come down in our nation, which has 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.520 not allowed the debate, which has seen any kind of 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.200 descent from the prevailing view is somehow disloyal. I think 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:53.600 austrained people deserve a choice, a proper choice. I don't 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.960 think we got that at the election because I felt, 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.120 especially at the National's Party, we pulled our punches sometimes 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.000 we explicitly decided to turn the volume down on our 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:05.000 party in an ultimately futile attempt to help the Liberals 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.720 win seats in the city. That strategy didn't work, so 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:08.560 we need a new plan. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.160 So Monday's National Party, Tuesday's Liberal Party and who knows 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.480 when the Greens will make their decision about whom their 0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.520 next leader is after Adam Bant lost his seat and 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:22.400 she just didn't this weekend people just stop me in 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:26.800 the street to express their grief. Well, that race seems 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.120 to be a three way one between Sarah Hanson Young 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.600 who would be the person who spend the most time 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.080 in the parliament, Marine Ferruki who remember, if you attack 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:37.800 her anything is racist, same way Sarah Hanson Young. I 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:39.840 can show you the book where she even calls our 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:42.720 people like me for commenting about her at all, that 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.880 they are sexist. And of course the super woke, super 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:50.440 lefty current Deputy leader from Queensland, the Rissa Waters. Now, 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:52.080 I'd love to be able to tell you what any 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.120 of these people had to say about their pitch, or 0:15:54.160 --> 0:15:56.000 if any of these people are actually confirming that they 0:15:56.000 --> 0:15:58.720 are running to be the leader of the party. But 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:02.000 guess what. The party that claims to be the most 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:05.880 connected to the people, the most downward democracy, the ones 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.640 who constantly have mass meetings of their party, guess what, 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:17.080 duck egg, nothing, zero tumbleweed. It's all playing out behind 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.320 closed doors. Remember that next time they lecture any other 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.240 political Party about how they work these people. If they 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:27.560 have a battle of two, it could well end up 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:31.080 being voted upon by those MPs. But in every leadership 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:33.880 change since they became the party that they have become, 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.320 since Bob brown Butt on his past, it is not 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:42.240 fought over watch this space. On Friday, the Prime Minister 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.320 walked in front of a massive party room. Why because 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.800 there's more than ninety people in there now is MPs 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.400 for the Labor Party. I'll save you the victory moments. 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.160 You can watch that on almost every other version of 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.960 the media right now. But as you know, two ministers 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:00.840 were dropped from current ministries, one the Attorney General, that 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:05.320 being Mark Dreyfus, and the Industry and Science Minister Ed Husick. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.960 He has gone now. I'm sure it doesn't help Ed 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.040 that I publicly say that I like the guy. But 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.560 I like the guy when way back when in opposition, 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:15.720 we had him on the program often as just a 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.840 backbench Labor MP who was always honest and open about 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.760 his opinions. He was also absolute about his beliefs, which 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.800 means sometimes you come to serious disagreements. But the wonderful 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:27.959 thing that I like about Ed in particular is that 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.280 he sees the humanity in his political opponents, and when 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.480 you have a conversation away from the microphones, away from 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:36.800 the cameras, he is a thoroughly decent person. Again, I'm sorry, Ed, 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:39.280 I know that that puts you into a column with albow, 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.840 but I cannot lie. You're a very good and decent man. Now. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:45.159 Mark Dreyfus has of course been Attorney General for some 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:46.919 period of time. I'm not a fan of how he 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.160 is publicly. I recognized he's had a very difficult private 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:52.360 life after his wife passed away in the past twelve months, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.399 So not good on top of all of that to 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.880 be moved on in terms of your political career. Both 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.679 remain labor in pas, but they will not be mens. Well. Today, 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.320 Ed Husick decided to do what very few labour people 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.040 do when the machine rolls over them. He didn't go 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.439 quietly into the night. He had already been booked for 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.480 an interview on the Insiders program with David Spears this 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.600 morning over on the ABC. This was before he was 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.240 dumped as a minister, But rather than pulling out of 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.600 that appearance, he held on to that appearance, which, when 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:25.840 he was able to speak his mind and it will 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:29.639 ruffle feathers, it may cost him future career progression. But 0:18:30.160 --> 0:18:32.840 this is a guy who's never going to go down 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.359 without a fight and will always be looking you in 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.639 the eye when the fight is on. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.120 We've had a sort of bare faced ambition and a 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:48.760 deputy prime minister wheeled a factional club to reshape the ministry. 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:51.719 I think when people look at a deputy prime minister, 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.760 they expect to see a statesman, not a factional assassin. 0:18:56.920 --> 0:19:00.080 Now that's a while in terms of all the things 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.239 said about politicians, that's hardly in the outrageous category. But 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.080 for a labor person to criticize another labor person publicly 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.680 while they are serving in the same government, big deal, 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:13.000 big deal, specifically going after a person who is in 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:17.000