Speaker 1: I want the fairy tale, I want the prince charming.
Speaker 2: She how do I put this? Isn't a fan of
Speaker 2: my kissing style with.
Speaker 1: A boyfriend and girlfriend for about twelve hours. He's in
Speaker 1: a trash bin. He's non recyclable catching them mu.
Speaker 2: I love being love, I love love.
Speaker 3: On today's episode of Where's Your Head Out, we are
Speaker 3: finally addressing what's been happening in our relationships. You guys
Speaker 3: have been asking and we've been listening, so let's address
Speaker 3: the elephant in the room. Where's Your Head At is
Speaker 3: a podcast that talks all things relationships, breakups, reality TV,
Speaker 3: trending shows, and everything in between.
Speaker 2: This is your new go to destination for laughs, gossip,
Speaker 2: intimate details, advice, and much more.
Speaker 3: Hello, Matthew, going today.
Speaker 1: I'm good. This is a bit of a different episode
Speaker 1: for us.
Speaker 3: This has kind of been We've almost done this episode
Speaker 3: so many times, and then we've kind of been holding off,
Speaker 3: and well, we've.
Speaker 2: Had things going on in the podcast. Obviously, we had
Speaker 2: Harry come on, then we had Claudia and and they
Speaker 2: stirred the pot, so we had to fall up on them.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of guests coming into the end
Speaker 2: of last year as well. Yeah, we've been focusing on them.
Speaker 3: But we also realize that you guys tune into us
Speaker 3: because you want to hear about what's going on in
Speaker 3: our relationships. And for so long we did every week
Speaker 3: basically we talked about what's been going on with our relationships,
Speaker 3: and then there was obviously something that happened and we
Speaker 3: kind of stopped basically addressing our relationships because we were
Speaker 3: kind of just playing it by year. As you said,
Speaker 3: we focus more on guests, but we have been listening
Speaker 3: to you guys, and we do want to address what's
Speaker 3: been happening.
Speaker 2: So how has your life been then, Anna.
Speaker 1: So my life's been really good.
Speaker 3: We just booked our engagement venue, we've booked our wedding venue,
Speaker 3: so yeah, we're just kind of like doing all the planning.
Speaker 3: The invites went out for our engagement party in April,
Speaker 3: which we're getting super excited about. On the weekends, we
Speaker 3: were actually at an engagement party and it was really nice.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of love in the room, and
Speaker 3: I was just I just felt really excited because, you know,
Speaker 3: I was a little unsure if we were going to
Speaker 3: do an engagement party because it is you know, another expense.
Speaker 1: It's more more saving to do.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we're going to have our wedding in Greece,
Speaker 3: in Corfu, so we know that a lot of people
Speaker 3: aren't going to be able to come because it is
Speaker 3: far away. So I think we made the decision to
Speaker 3: basically do kind of a little bit bigger engagement party
Speaker 3: and we're going to have a really small, very intimate
Speaker 3: wedding with our close friends and family.
Speaker 1: Obviously you're going to be there.
Speaker 3: Four Matt started saving, already ready to go.
Speaker 2: So what's your engagement part? Are you going to have
Speaker 2: a bit more people there?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think like about eighty to ninety people.
Speaker 2: What ship That reminds me? I don't know if I
Speaker 2: can make it. Ben's fight? Is that night to what
Speaker 2: for your engagement party?
Speaker 1: Ben's fight?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, it's not. You're lying to God and.
Speaker 2: He really wants me to come and like, you know,
Speaker 2: it's been my best mate for life and all that shit.
Speaker 1: Are you taking the piss? You're taking the piers.
Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you you're.
Speaker 1: Not You're actually not going to come to my engagement party. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm actually shook. I can't come.
Speaker 2: We'll just cut that bit it's fine.
Speaker 1: What do you mean you can't come? You have to come?
Speaker 1: It's a fight, Like, who cares if you get come
Speaker 1: to watch me?
Speaker 3: So what.
Speaker 1: You are taking the piers, aren't you?
Speaker 2: Oh god?
Speaker 1: Why would did you do this?
Speaker 2: I forgot I was going to do that, and then
Speaker 2: as he was talking about it, I was like, oh, fuck,
Speaker 2: I've got to do that.
Speaker 1: That's what you planned to trick me?
Speaker 2: Yeah I did, I just didn't know when I was
Speaker 2: going to do it. Obviously Ben's having a fight and
Speaker 2: I really want to watch him. I'll live stream it
Speaker 2: from your engagement party.
Speaker 1: So your live streaming from my engagement party, I reckon
Speaker 1: know you won't.
Speaker 3: You'll be enjoying and embracing the love that I share
Speaker 3: with Michael.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would be doing that as well. I have
Speaker 2: it in my pocket watching it. But yeah, Ben's fighting,
Speaker 2: so I thought, yeah, I forgot all about that till
Speaker 2: you started talking about it, and I was like, that's
Speaker 2: why I'm going.
Speaker 3: To pray it.
Speaker 2: Lucky.
Speaker 1: My reaction wasn't bad there. I could have really gone.
Speaker 2: That's what I was thinking as well. I was like, fuck,
Speaker 2: Like if she reacts like bad, mad, I was like,
Speaker 2: this is going to be turned fucking.
Speaker 3: So yeah, we have the engagement party, very excited and
Speaker 3: that's definitely coming.
Speaker 2: I am. That was my little just joke there also.
Speaker 1: Coming to the wedding.
Speaker 3: And also one other thing that's just happened is we
Speaker 3: booked flights to Europe this year. We've put a deposit
Speaker 3: on a wedding venue in Corfu. But Michael and I
Speaker 3: have both never been to Corfu, so we've obviously never
Speaker 3: seen the wedding venue, so like we could be getting
Speaker 3: catfished on this location.
Speaker 1: It looks beautiful.
Speaker 2: I said that last time. Man, if you rock half
Speaker 2: and it's like some real do you know like those
Speaker 2: I'm picturing. I know it's a different country, but you
Speaker 2: know those like old Italy sort of like houses. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's nice from Afar and then commun.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it is on an estate and the estate
Speaker 3: has been like renovated over the years, so there will
Speaker 3: be parts of it that will be a little bit older.
Speaker 1: But I'm just hoping that it looks beautiful, that's all, because.
Speaker 3: It does look beautiful on the photos. Let's hope I'm
Speaker 3: not getting catfish, because I'll be sad and I still
Speaker 3: will be having my wedding there.
Speaker 1: Because the deposit's gone.
Speaker 3: Now, so regardless of if it's good or shit, we
Speaker 3: will be getting married there.
Speaker 2: Fair. That is brave to pay a deposit on some
Speaker 2: way you haven't visited or seen before, But I guess
Speaker 2: that's the nature of the beast, isn't it.
Speaker 3: Well it's weird though, because I've done so much research
Speaker 3: on wedding venues in Greece, I actually thought there was
Speaker 3: going to be way more that I would love, But
Speaker 3: to be honest, there was only like maybe two or
Speaker 3: three that I really loved, and this one that I
Speaker 3: did end up booking was one of the ones that
Speaker 3: I loved.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, what's the accommodation?
Speaker 3: Like, so basically we're getting married on an estate. It's
Speaker 3: a nine bedroom estate so close. Family will stay there.
Speaker 3: But then there's also like there's a five star hotel
Speaker 3: like five minutes away, or you can.
Speaker 1: Stay at the little backpackers down the road. Matt, let's
Speaker 1: cut your name on it.
Speaker 2: Remer backpackers there, what's survive that I've had some of
Speaker 2: my best times in backpackers hostile?
Speaker 1: No, it's actually not a backpacker.
Speaker 3: It's just like it looks like this Greek guy's house
Speaker 3: that he's renting out rooms.
Speaker 1: So that's why I kind of said that anyway, he's.
Speaker 2: There where I'm saying, well, that's all exciting, it's all moving,
Speaker 2: everything's moving.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for the wedding obviously, you know there has been
Speaker 3: a little bit of speculation from people who listen to
Speaker 3: the podcast that you have recently gone through a breakup.
Speaker 1: That was something that.
Speaker 3: We've actually we've kind of been going back and forth
Speaker 3: and kind of bickering a little bit.
Speaker 1: Do we tell people do we not?
Speaker 3: Like obviously, we've signed up to share our relationships with
Speaker 3: you guys having a relationship podcast, So it's really tricky
Speaker 3: and it's such a balance when there is things going
Speaker 3: on in your personal life and when things aren't one
Speaker 3: hundred percent set in stone, you don't want to like
Speaker 3: tell things too early or too late or whatever. So
Speaker 3: I guess the question that I have for you, Matt,
Speaker 3: is what is going on in your relationship?
Speaker 2: Well, yes, so I understand that obviously, and I appreciate
Speaker 2: everyone that listens to the podcast, and I understand that
Speaker 2: you guys want to hear about our relationship and that's
Speaker 2: why we signed up to do this podcast. And I
Speaker 2: completely understand and respect that. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: like we are, we are still humans. We still are,
Speaker 2: we still have life and what's going on, and as
Speaker 2: open as I am and love to be, I still
Speaker 2: need privacy in that respect to figure shit out. I'll
Speaker 2: start from the beginning. So late last year, obviously, Jen's
Speaker 2: older sister had a kid, Gus. Beautiful kid, you know,
Speaker 2: just good kid or gorgeous. Yeah, I And if you
Speaker 2: listen to this story, guys, you'll understand why. Like it's
Speaker 2: not as easy as coming on a podcast each week
Speaker 2: and just sharing your things. So she obviously sees Gus,
Speaker 2: it's her nephew. She's in love with this kid. And me,
Speaker 2: from my position and the pardicument, I'm in see Jen
Speaker 2: pushing thirty. I'm not going to beat around the bushes.
Speaker 2: Women have body clocks. I understand that she's thirty. She
Speaker 2: sees Gus, her ovaries are tickling. I can't give her that.
Speaker 2: So I like sat around for a bit on it.
Speaker 2: It was sort of eating me from the inside. I
Speaker 2: was sort of like, you know what, Like I see
Speaker 2: him hanging out and it sort of almost made me,
Speaker 2: in a weird way, disconnect from Gus. When we would
Speaker 2: see him and the family like because it's weird, it's
Speaker 2: hard to explain. And then it was sort of called out,
Speaker 2: why don't I care like about dust stories or photos?
Speaker 2: And I just said, I said, look, I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: frank with you, like I can't give you that. And
Speaker 2: it's something that's sort of like playing on my mind.
Speaker 2: And I know Jen said that she's happy to not
Speaker 2: have kids with me, and I understood that she said that,
Speaker 2: but that was it. The next day or two days
Speaker 2: into seeing me, right, things have changed since then, and
Speaker 2: we had just a serious chat about it and we
Speaker 2: just said that's something, and then it just flowed into
Speaker 2: like other chats like I said, look, people, your sister
Speaker 2: getting engaged, my sister getting engaged, Anna getting engaged, because
Speaker 2: she said I started acting weird since NICKI got engaged,
Speaker 2: and I said, it just triggered something in me that like,
Speaker 2: I don't think that I want to get engaged anytime soon.
Speaker 2: And I know that Jen and God love her and
Speaker 2: I love her, wants to get engaged. Every day I
Speaker 2: feel is like a day too that she isn't engaged
Speaker 2: to me, and I'm like, well, I don't don't. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be engaged. And how I keep saying
Speaker 2: it to her is I put this hypothetical thing right.
Speaker 2: I still want to travel, I still want to do Europe,
Speaker 2: and I still want to do a marry her again.
Speaker 2: And don't get me wrong, I'm happy to do this
Speaker 2: all with her. I'm happy to do this all with her.
Speaker 2: I still I want to buy a house, I want
Speaker 2: to do this podcast, I want this to take off.
Speaker 2: I've I've got career goals. I've got like all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I want to do all this stuff that is going
Speaker 2: to cost money, and then you've got to put on
Speaker 2: top of that the IVF, like all that sort of
Speaker 2: stuff like weddings, honeymoons, all this stuff. And I said,
Speaker 2: like when will I be financially ready to have all
Speaker 2: this money to do this? I said, I'm like another
Speaker 2: six to seven years off, plus like my career that
Speaker 2: I want to I still want to invest into that.
Speaker 1: My time and energying stressful. It's very stressful.
Speaker 2: So that's sort yeah, that's sort of what I was
Speaker 2: trying to say to her that like, and I know
Speaker 2: that you're on a bodycock. I know you're on like
Speaker 2: you're and I don't want to waste her time, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to waste my time. So late last
Speaker 2: year we took some time just swiss sales. I think
Speaker 2: it was pretty evidence through the podcast, yeah, to just
Speaker 2: think what we wanted. Back to the kid thing as well,
Speaker 2: something that was flagged with me as well was obviously
Speaker 2: Nicky's engaged and so she's planning with her other sister
Speaker 2: Sam to have a joint like a pregnancy to try
Speaker 2: FA pregnant at the same time, and Jen was slack,
Speaker 2: and I was like, fuck lack.
Speaker 3: So there's three sisters, and then you feel like Jen's
Speaker 3: getting kind of left out almost yeah.
Speaker 2: And I sort of was like, I don't want to
Speaker 2: take that away from you. And I said to her,
Speaker 2: I said to her multiple times, I'm happy to leave,
Speaker 2: walk away and see you on Instagram or on social media,
Speaker 2: or get told by someone that in like two years
Speaker 2: from now or a year from now, that you've met
Speaker 2: someone and you're pregnant and you're gonna have a kid.
Speaker 2: And I said I would like it would actually bring
Speaker 2: me joy. And then she was like, well, I don't
Speaker 2: want to have a kid with anyone else. I love you,
Speaker 2: And I said, yeah, I know, but I don't want
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't want you to give up that.
Speaker 2: And I think that she said, well, you knew that
Speaker 2: what your position, And I said, but I think because
Speaker 2: I came on this podcast and I spoke about my IVF,
Speaker 2: I spoke about my infertility, and I was so open
Speaker 2: about it, I think that people almost got a misconception
Speaker 2: that I was okay with it. Yeah, where I don't
Speaker 2: think that I have fully grasped the severity of the situation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like I said on that episode, twenty five year old
Speaker 2: me doesn't care, but thirty five year old me, that's
Speaker 2: who I'm worried about, and care about older men when
Speaker 2: it's a serious situation. So we obviously took some time.
Speaker 2: We thought about everything. Also, in this time, jen Struggle
Speaker 2: was a bit with the public side of what comes
Speaker 2: dating me, this podcast, the social media, she struggles. She's
Speaker 2: you know that firsthand. She's a very private girl. One
Speaker 2: thing that that was reported when people, this media person
Speaker 2: said that we had broken up, said that I'd stopped
Speaker 2: tagging her in photos old photos, which means were blocked.
Speaker 2: We're not blocked. We still follow each other. She's just
Speaker 2: never asked me to tag her in my post on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yes story, she says, Okay, so she can Reassember, but
Speaker 2: she never wanted tiles to be tagged in them. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so she was always a bit on that. She obviously
Speaker 2: we constantly invited to come on the podcast.
Speaker 3: We've tried to get on the podcast so many times,
Speaker 3: and like you guys always ask us, and we obviously
Speaker 3: want to respect Jen's privacy and it's our choice to
Speaker 3: kind of share our lives, but it's not.
Speaker 2: And then she and then she I said, like I've
Speaker 2: gone with like you knew this when you start dating me.
Speaker 2: I had a podcast, this is all you knew this.
Speaker 2: And she said, well I didn't understand it then, and
Speaker 2: I didn't get like what comes with it. Like for instance,
Speaker 2: when the Psidekicks said that we were going to break
Speaker 2: up and there was like media articles about it, she
Speaker 2: cried for three days straight about that, and it's like
Speaker 2: you understand that she's not in this, Like I can
Speaker 2: see those articles. I can see people speculate we've broken up, and.
Speaker 1: It doesn't affect it.
Speaker 2: It doesn't affect me. No, it doesn't affect me. I
Speaker 2: just don't have like funny like it. But then again,
Speaker 2: like we chose to be here. I guess she chose
Speaker 2: as well, but I don't think she understood what comes
Speaker 2: with it. And some people say I haven't posted her,
Speaker 2: we haven't spoken about it. Obviously, when you're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out something that's so so big and isn't like
Speaker 2: it isn't as simple as like, do you know what
Speaker 2: I mean?
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, it's.
Speaker 2: Like something massive that we're trying to figure out. We
Speaker 2: don't want to post us all over social media. I
Speaker 2: don't want to put it out there. I just want
Speaker 2: to like you're.
Speaker 1: Trying to figure it out basically.
Speaker 2: And also, my goal in twenty twenty three was my
Speaker 2: news resolution was to be better. So I've obviously taken
Speaker 2: that head on. I'm seeing a therapist, like I'm trying
Speaker 2: to be better, I'm trying to work on myself, and
Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to them obviously about the whole
Speaker 2: infertility thing, the whole like try just fully wrap my
Speaker 2: head around it so I understand it and I understand
Speaker 2: what comes with that as well.
Speaker 3: Firstly, I want to start by saying that I'm so
Speaker 3: sorry you're feeling this way because obviously, you know we've
Speaker 3: spoken about your infertility on the podcast and offline, off
Speaker 3: the podcast many times. But it is as a friend,
Speaker 3: super difficult to hear that you're really struggling with this
Speaker 3: at the moment. And I guess it's really the first
Speaker 3: sign of you struggling with your infertility is basically seeing
Speaker 3: Jen with her sister's.
Speaker 1: Baby, and that's got to be really difficult for you.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was because I love Jen and I
Speaker 2: still do. I do, and I'm seeing her like with
Speaker 2: the baby and then knowing that I can't give her that,
Speaker 2: Like I said to her, like the one thing that
Speaker 2: I've put on this earth to do, I can't do,
Speaker 2: Like as a male, the one thing that I was
Speaker 2: meant to do, I cannot do. What would hurt me
Speaker 2: and what would piss me off is if we continue
Speaker 2: today and then in three years from now, you know,
Speaker 2: like she sees her sisters get pregnant at the same
Speaker 2: time her twin sister has a kid for crying out loud,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? And it's basically half
Speaker 2: her and then she grows to resent me, Like I.
Speaker 3: Just want to say as well, I think that you
Speaker 3: have a much bigger purpose than to have kids on
Speaker 3: this planet.
Speaker 1: And I think that genuinely.
Speaker 3: Even you sharing your infertility struggles as a guy, Like
Speaker 3: there's no other guy even still that has come out
Speaker 3: with that. Like you are like a face of infertility
Speaker 3: almost to a lot of people, and like you've helped
Speaker 3: so many people even just with that episode, and like
Speaker 3: we have so many goals that we're going to smash
Speaker 3: this year, and your purpose isn't just to have kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't want you to ever feel that, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's yeah, but it's more like that's my cross
Speaker 2: to bear. Yeah, I mean, like I don't want to
Speaker 2: take it away from anyone else. And like, and I
Speaker 2: know that Jen can say like now she says she's okay,
Speaker 2: and I do believe her that she's okay with it
Speaker 2: right now, but it's in the future.
Speaker 1: You're also twenty seven that like, oh that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's a good point. So like she
Speaker 2: was like, well, what do you want because I've always said,
Speaker 2: like I want to be a dad, like of a son,
Speaker 2: Like that's what I want. I want to have a son,
Speaker 2: and I won't be there for my son. And then
Speaker 2: she was like you said all this stuff. She's like,
Speaker 2: what do you want? And I said Jen, I'm twenty seven.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't need to know what I want,
Speaker 2: and that's okay to not know what I want. I
Speaker 2: put a hypothetical, I've said it to you, like thirty
Speaker 2: fourths like thirty five, Like I don't like you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like so you can see yourself like
Speaker 2: wanting to maybe go down the path of like IVF
Speaker 2: at like thirty four which isn't anytime sex anytime soon.
Speaker 2: Like you need a financial backing to do it. You
Speaker 2: need to be in a place I think where you
Speaker 2: have achieved a lot that you want to achieve because
Speaker 2: it's going to put a lot of your energy and
Speaker 2: a lot of your time into it. And I just
Speaker 2: stressed that to Jen, and I said that I don't
Speaker 2: think that's the same timeline for you. We're still together, Jen,
Speaker 2: and I like, I don't want to be fake. I
Speaker 2: don't want to jump on this podcast and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: like tiptoeing on tulips, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: I want to give the audience me and the honest truth.
Speaker 2: But I don't feel like I can when behind closed doors,
Speaker 2: You've still got to figuring this out.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of complexities that come with
Speaker 3: this situation. It's not a case of like two p
Speaker 3: people falling out of love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is it maybe that like you're twenty seven and she's thirty,
Speaker 3: and maybe like the timing is off.
Speaker 2: There is a lot about that as well. Yeah, yecause,
Speaker 2: like I said, did women have a body clock? And
Speaker 2: then we spoke about freezing some eggs. Trust me, We're
Speaker 2: talking about every avenue, every option about this. I just
Speaker 2: want to figure it out and just you know, like
Speaker 2: keep doing what we're doing. I'll keep being honest on
Speaker 2: the podcast.
Speaker 3: And Yeah, you've just kind of been holding it to
Speaker 3: yourself because it was I guess something that you were
Speaker 3: internally processing. And the weird thing about this is Matt
Speaker 3: like calls me and tells me everything. But for a
Speaker 3: couple of months there, you were internalizing everything, Like it
Speaker 3: was just like your brain was just ticking over and
Speaker 3: you were really I mean, you've been pretty depressed lately, right, I.
Speaker 2: Think been very depressed. Yeah, it's funny you say that.
Speaker 2: I normally would call you for advice with everything, but
Speaker 2: like back when it was in full swing late last year,
Speaker 2: I felt to myself, like I need to find this
Speaker 2: out myself, Like I need to figure out where my
Speaker 2: head's at, and I need to figure out what I
Speaker 2: want to do and where I want to go.
Speaker 3: Like and like, obviously, you know, you've been told by
Speaker 3: doctors that you're in fertile, but there's so many avenues
Speaker 3: for you to still become a father, Like you could
Speaker 3: adopt the doctors told you about potentially using bone marrow
Speaker 3: to create sperm, Is that right, yeah, something that like
Speaker 3: there's so many Yeah, there's so many like crazy technologies,
Speaker 3: and we are lucky to live in a time where
Speaker 3: there's new things happening all the time, and.
Speaker 2: In a couple of years from now, medicine will be
Speaker 2: more advanced and exactly from there it will be and
Speaker 2: probably when I'm ready, the medicine hopefully will be very advanced.
Speaker 2: But that's the issue as well, when I'm ready. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's something that just yeah, yeah, the whole thing's
Speaker 2: just you know, like it's I hope it works out.
Speaker 2: I hope everything is good, But it's like I don't
Speaker 2: want to take away opportunities from people that they've obviously,
Speaker 2: Like I said, like, when when did you first know
Speaker 2: you wanted a kid? And she said, when she was
Speaker 2: seven got a baby born, and I was like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't want to take away from like, you know,
Speaker 2: seven years old that you know, like that what they want.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, it's just it.
Speaker 2: And it's like and it's like we've discussed it, like
Speaker 2: at lengths about it, and like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's just obviously a super difficult situation. And
Speaker 3: you know, even hearing you talking about this, some of
Speaker 3: this is even new information to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I've told you into this much
Speaker 2: detail about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So like obviously, thank you for sharing not only
Speaker 3: with me, but with our audience because it's I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a really important kind of conversation to have. And
Speaker 3: I can't even imagine how difficult this must be even
Speaker 3: for you to have this conversation on this platform. But
Speaker 3: you know, we are grateful that you are sharing this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, and like I said to you, like you're
Speaker 2: saying that people want to listen, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm happy too. It's just I want to sort of
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying and where I am before I start,
Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like publicizing And I know,
Speaker 2: like I said, I understand everyone and I respect that
Speaker 2: you guys come to us to listen, and I appreciate it,
Speaker 2: and I'm sorry I haven't been more honest about the
Speaker 2: situation earlier, but like you can see and hear that,
Speaker 2: like I need to figure shit out before I yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I fully yeah, and I hope. I hope everything works
Speaker 2: out and I believe it will. Yeah, ilieve everything will
Speaker 2: work out.
Speaker 3: Everything's opposed to for a reason, as we always say,
Speaker 3: and everything will fall into place as it should.
Speaker 2: And timing is everything ends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, we don't envy the position that you're in.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing.
Speaker 3: We really appreciate it's right and yeah, we'll talk to
Speaker 3: you guys soon.
Speaker 2: Thank you for letting me share my story where I'm at, my.
Speaker 1: Truth, my truth. Yeah, okay, bye guys,