WEBVTT - Josh Addo-Carr | Part 1 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:02.360 My parents. 0:00:05.960 --> 0:00:09.080 I'm not living with them. I'm just staying with them. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.520 I'm looking I'm taking care of them at the moment. Yeah, 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.160 because I don't know if you know, but these two 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:15.960 late you know there, they're getting old. 0:00:17.079 --> 0:00:18.960 Let's hope you do look after me when I'm like 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.320 mid seventies and I'm actually shooting myself. 0:00:21.000 --> 0:00:21.520 And things like that. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:23.439 You to wipe my ass, change my nappy, all that 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:23.959 sort of stuff. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:24.520 Look forward to. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:26.520 I'm sure the home I put you in obviously when 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.160 i'm living. 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:30.200 Truth right. 0:00:32.240 --> 0:00:35.120 Also, I'll make sure i'll redecorate your bedroom upstairs when 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.360 i'm up there as well. It'll be good fun just 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:40.639 through out the work bench, mate, I'm going to get 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:42.400 all the boys in here. Fox's family is going to 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.240 move in. I'm in here, Brandon. 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:46.440 The monsters. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:52.920 I don't want them. That'd be horrible. Josh had a car, mate, 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:53.800 Good to have. 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.600 You any good? 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:57.880 Yeah, mate, I don't know if you know how to 0:00:57.880 --> 0:00:59.560 work a mic before, if you work too. 0:00:59.400 --> 0:01:00.560 Far away, yeah, you get it. 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:02.400 You'll be able to hear yourself in the We call 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.200 these things cans. Cans. 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:05.800 They're away. 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:09.800 No, you're not allowed. Just when you laugh, go all 0:01:09.840 --> 0:01:12.240 the way back there. What have you been doing? What's happing? 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.440 Not much, bro, just family time with the kids. Missus. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.039 Father again, huh father again? Well done? Another little boy, 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:22.039 Jack Jada Black? 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.880 Were you hoping is there? Are you thinking about? Were 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.319 you hoping there to be a girl? Because you've already 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.080 got a little boy. I want to try full of boys, bro, 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:30.119 you just want all boys. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.800 I already got my girl right fighting troop by the graces. 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.160 I think the same too, you know what I mean? 0:01:38.200 --> 0:01:39.240 Make sure they look after the trouble. 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.480 Yeah, that'd be good. But they all play footy? 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:46.400 Yeah I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:47.280 You want them to. 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.080 I don't want them to. But if they love it, 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:52.000 then you. 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:55.080 Were the same, right dude, You probably didn't want You 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:56.120 didn't want us to play footy. 0:01:56.920 --> 0:01:58.440 I was happy to do whatever you wanted to do. 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.960 But look in an ideal world. I remember having a 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.160 conversation with Jack wants to mate, listen, why don't you 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.680 go go to the States to get a college education? 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.920 And he was like, nah, Dad, you know Friday nights 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:13.040 I corrupted you sitting every Friday night, me drinking on 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.800 the couch watching Friday night football. 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:16.320 It just bled into you. Blokes. 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:19.560 Yeah, what do you do? You choose your own path anyway. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:20.400 I can't tell you what to. 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.720 Do exactly, bro. And if you tell, if you try 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:23.840 to tell your kids what to do, you know what 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:28.840 they're going to do. Fox. Let them pick their own path. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:30.720 I give them enough road to trip over. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.000 Thanks for the gifts to by the way. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.280 Yeah, let's try it, man. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.320 I think I love this green. You know, green is 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.880 my color. Green, Green is my color. I mate, I 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.440 get attracted door things green. It's a roll leg green. 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:51.320 Yeah, I love it. I appreciate it. It's awesome. 0:02:51.639 --> 0:02:54.280 Let's talk quickly. But Paramatta, right now, how are you 0:02:54.360 --> 0:02:56.079 enjoying time over and paramounter? 0:02:56.200 --> 0:02:56.480 I love? 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:01.400 Yeah, just the people, the player group, the coaching staff, 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:06.560 everyone behind administration there. Transitioned really well into the team. 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.320 I knew a lot of the boys and the coaching staff, 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:11.480 so love and I know we're not getting the results 0:03:11.480 --> 0:03:14.080 at the moment, we're not far off, but just just 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:16.080 loving the way we want to play in the stole 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:17.000 of foota we want to play. 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:18.960 But I really enjoyed it. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.760 You've come from clubs with good fan base. Melbourne had 0:03:21.760 --> 0:03:24.200 a good fan base, Bulldog's got a crazy fan base. 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.280 Paramatta like there is. That's as big a fan base 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:28.120 as called. 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:28.840 The Sleeping Giant. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.440 Yeah, yeah, right, how's the Roles files going Jason Rolls? 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.120 Obviously you had him as assistant coach at Melbourne. You've 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.920 got a good relationship with him. Has you been going. 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:37.920 He's been going good man. 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:42.160 You know, he's the same as when we were at 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.440 the Storm. But I don't think not much has changed. 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.840 But he's been good. 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:50.560 But this is still not alluding to what he used 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:52.600 to put on the powerpoints when he was an assistant coach. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:57.200 But yeah, used to call Billy Billy Walters used to 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.080 call it the greatest showman because he had a really 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:00.920 good dummy. But he used to take used to do 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.520 these things like at the start of every meeting. It 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.640 was just like you know that one mate in a 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:09.520 group chat who always somehow gets the sickest videos. Let's 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:11.920 get sent to him. He'd always just put this real 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.880 like sickening video just to get the room laughing, and 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:16.680 then he'd have everyone. 0:04:16.720 --> 0:04:18.239 Does he still do that? 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:18.760 Yeah. 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:22.200 Phil Jackson coached the Chicago Bulls, probably the greatest, one 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.280 of the greatest coaches history of sports. When he used 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:27.960 to do the videos for the Chicago Bulls with Jordan 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.320 and all those blokes, he used to like sort of 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:32.680 cut together into the film scenes from the Wizard of 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:33.880 Oz and everything. Get them laughing. 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.679 Oh really like that? He was really imagining. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.960 If I mean, if you're gonna sit there in a 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.160 team meeting for anyhow, you may as well be able 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:40.960 to have a bit of a laugh. 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:45.320 And you want energy before the meeting too. I think 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:48.040 that's what rosal. He makes the meetings and training fun. 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.880 Got to hear some of the coaches, Foxy. Just imagine 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.320 sitting in a meeting with that for an how and 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:53.560 a half. 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:54.720 Yeah, you know, we just. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.560 We sort of like, you know, I think we're better 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:04.159 than that, just going off. Yeah, I wonder some people 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.200 sit there, you know? Am I wasting my life? 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:07.159 Yes? 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:12.280 Yeah? What about the playing group? What about the boys 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:13.880 that you haven't seen? You a lot of them coming in. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.800 But how is the because every playing groups like different 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:19.920 every you have loose characters in there, what's the paramatter? 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:24.080 Like? Let sleep, bro, I feel like we're a close bunch. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:27.480 You know, they're good, They're good bunch of boys. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:28.280 Who's your game? 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.480 Uh? One? 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:37.080 Or two senior player, you've got to basically after all 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:37.560 of them. 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.240 That's true because we live we live all over Sydney 0:05:40.240 --> 0:05:41.880 bro We always try to catch up with a cafe 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.280 before training before captains run. 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:46.840 But I feel like we're all close group. 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.440 Did you play with Mitch at the Tigers? 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:50.360 Yes? I was that the titles with Mitch Mitch. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:52.919 Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's We always. 0:05:52.600 --> 0:05:54.840 Talk about it. Back in the days, we had a 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:55.640 pretty good side. 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.840 Oh yeah, you had a well like back in those 0:05:58.880 --> 0:06:00.880 days to a lot of you young guys who are 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.040 all like sort of scattered around in the NRL now 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.240 and leaders at their respective clubs, but you guys were 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.760 like you were probably the you guys were the rat 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:11.880 pack of the West Tigers and now you're all like, 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.320 you know, good family man all your respective clubs. But 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:20.680 I imagine you'd have some cracking stories, not for not 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:21.000 for the. 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:27.360 Like what, he's a good players, a good kid. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:28.520 He's a very good kid. 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:32.600 He keeps to himself, but I feel like over the 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:34.040 last couple of weeks he's really coming out of the 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:36.280 shell and has a laugh at the boys, comes out 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:40.839 the breaky like I said, and he's definitely a shigning like. 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.840 Tear Blake, I reckon, you get on really good with 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.240 He's an old player who went to Union for years. 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.760 Scotty wise Man or one of the assistants. 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.880 Scotty how good is love him? 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.640 Because I had the time of up in lenox Head 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:57.360 when Covid when Covid. 0:06:57.120 --> 0:06:58.360 Here, Oh yeah, was he up there? 0:06:58.400 --> 0:06:58.600 He was? 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:01.160 That's why who I did a little pre season because 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:02.960 I last stayed in Sydney and everyone had to go 0:07:03.040 --> 0:07:03.520 to melbur. 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:06.320 You and George Jennings, Yes, yeah, that's right. I remember your. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.880 Storm said, oh, we got like a couple of hours 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:12.400 to pack all that stuff up and drive down to Melbourne. 0:07:12.400 --> 0:07:14.680 I said, I can't, like I don't know, I had 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:15.840 something on or whatever. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:18.560 But end up getting stuck in Sydney and they were like, oh, 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.600 you have to move to to lenox Head for three 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:23.720 or four weeks, have a little mini pre season up 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.480 there because there was a green zone. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.200 And Sydney was a red zone. Yeah that's right, Yeah, 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:28.280 I had all these little zones. 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.600 I remember when you did it. Yeah, all the boys 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:34.920 were off because you guys were remember we were in 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:36.840 we were in Melbourne and it was like piercing down 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.800 rain and Foxy and Jenks were in Where was that Lennox? 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.880 And it was like every day they just post pictures 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.600 at the beach and just the locals made. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:48.480 Us so fun for they cooked to the surf. I 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.320 don't have to surf. I don't even know how to swim, 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.920 but a surf I was. 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.760 I'm trying to get out there. But I'm just you know, 0:07:55.960 --> 0:08:02.600 I'm not the fittest person at all. I'm trying to. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:01.240 Make your a Lando. 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.320 Bargain with a crack. Yeah. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.400 Well, why is he going to full circle? Why is 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.720 he played under twenty one for Paramount of President's Cup 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.760 that's called back in the day. Then he went away 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:15.040 went into the union coaching union with the war Tars Wallabies, 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.600 English Ruby Union back of Paramount. Tremendous fella. 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:21.200 He's so smart, like he comes up with little drills 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:24.360 that we can work on, like within our game. I'll 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.560 sit down with them all at the time, and obviously 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.440 it was part of the union there for a bit 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.840 and Rosie give me heads up just to try to 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:34.160 give him a hand and a few areas and that's 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.360 something I really enjoyed. Try to coach the boys and 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:38.840 help the boys and help our coaches as well. 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:39.760 That's good. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.560 And let's go to your und our old journey for 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.959 a week. Let's start right in the beginning. You start 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.960 at the Sharkis of your South juniors. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:51.960 Yeah right, he went Mattreville Light, didn't you? 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:53.000 Yes? 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:55.600 Did you come through with any of the boys there. 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:56.920 There's a lot of us. 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:04.360 Adnamshan Or Blake, Tyron Phillips, Aaron Gray, Dylan Walker. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:04.760 Reno went there, didn't. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:06.640 Boy Cord? 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.280 What was Blake like in school? 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:11.080 He's just stubborn brother. 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:16.680 I played so much football with Adam through school obviously 0:09:16.720 --> 0:09:17.680 through Souse as well. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.840 I've known him since under elevens or something. 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.000 He's a good player, He's freak. He's so good. 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.600 But if you if you looked at us two back 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.400 in the day, you think, oh no, there's two followers 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:31.719 and never making you know what I mean, like all 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:32.640 the two rat. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:35.880 Bays and fifteen. You know what, it's just good to 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:36.280 see that. 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.400 You know, he he's stuck by his dream and he's 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.640 a feeling man now and he's back in. 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:41.560 Sydney and enjoy his foot. 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.080 Yeah, great places come out of Matroville, so all once 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.319 spoken about. But back in the day, Michael Whitney, who 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:50.320 was a left hand let's Australian cricketer. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:51.359 Yeah. 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.520 Actually he was the guy one of the major reasons 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:55.640 South got back in the competition, massive south Man. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.679 But also the Ollow brothers. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:03.120 Yeah, Steve, Gary, Gary and Mark Loave It three brothers 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:06.200 who played for the Wallabies. Now the mainstay of the 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:08.719 eighty four Grand Slam Mark Keller. Many believe him to 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:12.400 be the greatest union player of all time. Naturally, really, yeah, 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:14.280 they came through the greats playing rugby league. 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:15.719 They all played Wallabies together. 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:17.320 All played Wallabies together on the same side. 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.959 That's pretty good. But I wanted to ask the Sharks 0:10:21.000 --> 0:10:25.120 because you played under twenties at the Sharks, yep, did what. 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:26.440 Were the did the Sharks? 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.640 Like I've always wanted to know. I always wanted to 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.200 ask you, did the Sharks want to keep you there? 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.000 Or like did something happen or because you end up 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:35.960 at the obviously debut at the Tigers. But I thought 0:10:36.360 --> 0:10:38.600 I'd imagine you would have been a junior that like, 0:10:39.160 --> 0:10:40.880 if you were coming through their ranks, they would have 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:42.600 wanted to retain it, right. 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:45.880 I wasn't a so how it all started for me? 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.840 I signed up online because I was gone through a 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.200 bit of stuff when I was younger, just had a 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.280 year off foot and I signed up on the line 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.560 for a trial at the Sharks. The Bulldogs and the 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.240 Sharks tried out for both and I think it was 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.720 like one hundred players to try out for the under twenties, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.760 and that's how sort of all started for me. And 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.200 I was the only play out of like one hundred 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:08.240 players that get picked out of that troll to stay 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.640 with the under twenty side. And I was like, I 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.640 think I was I didn't even I wasn't meant to 0:11:14.640 --> 0:11:17.719 play round one under twenties. And then with one of 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.760 the wingers pulled up sick or something and ended up 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:24.040 getting the crack there and scored I think two three 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:26.320 tries against the Gold Coast Times and that's sort of 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:28.959 helped started for me and kept my position there. Played 0:11:28.960 --> 0:11:32.680 fullback a bit of five eight there as well. Yeah, 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.360 fullback center wi mister fixed back. 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.520 He's the passing going on John West Bro. 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.360 But I really enjoyed my football there, Bro. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.959 But yeah, Flano was the head coach there, stayed there 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:51.600 for two years. They just wanted to sign me for 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:58.040 was Cup after after twenties. But Melbourne and the Tigers 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.400 wanted to sign me for first grade for both one year, 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:04.320 and I just thought it was the first grade contract. 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.760 Never really trained me first grade at the Sharks as well, 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.000 So I just wanted to give it one more crack. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:11.200 That's that was my attitude towards it. Just give it 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:12.480 a last last crack. 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.679 And that's why I went to the the So what 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:18.800 so Melbourne were circling you then, Yeah, they wanted to 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.440 sign me for one you deal to go down there, 0:12:20.440 --> 0:12:23.760 but I was like, I wasn't stable at the time, 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:28.120 like just living was. So I was like, I'll give 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.640 it one last crack here in Sydney with the West Tigers. 0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:33.920 Then I played nine games there and yeah, I. 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.400 Remember that Sunday like hard over against the same game. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.959 Yeah, because you'd signed with Melbourne two weeks before. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.720 That, right was captains run day before? 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:48.720 So the day before, oh wow, day before the Tigers. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.160 No, No, they didn't know. That's what I mean, like 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.680 Tigers are always the last enough, no last side. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.800 Because I was obviously going really well in this of 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.960 Ours Cup and I wasn't getting a crack and and 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.600 it's melturne storm but they offered me, I think a 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:04.839 three deal or something. And still if I don't take, 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:08.880 you know, and yeah, I'm signing the contract day before 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.679 Captain's run. And then the next day I didn't even 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.560 know I was going to play. They all told me 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:16.960 or David, David's out, You're in, but they. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.520 Didn't telling And the back of it, I'm like, I 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:19.040 just signed. 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:23.800 It's an incredible coincidence though, that your first grade to 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:28.480 Boo and his first grade to against each other, and 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:32.520 you blokes would actually form one of the great wing combinations. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:34.000 It's crazy when I look back at it. 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:39.240 Now, do you like still speak to him just on Instagram? 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.280 I just reply to his stuff here and there. 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:43.960 He's still not crazy down he's in. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.480 I think he's in Japan at the moment. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.360 I think he signed with like overseas quiet, but every 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:51.360 now and then we touch base. 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:53.959 But yeah, it's one of the great mysteries. He hasn't 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.599 dominated union. I thought that when he went there to 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:57.880 here we Go, he did. 0:13:57.720 --> 0:13:59.760 A real bad hamstring remember when he first went and 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:02.000 he was out for like nearly the whole year. And 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.400 I don't think he's like I think like they've struggled 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.400 to rehabit for a while. I think he's sort of 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:09.080 come in and out of the side, like he's injured 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:09.720 a lot of the time. 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.640 So Fox, just when you went to I don't want 0:14:13.640 --> 0:14:14.600 to jump too far ahead here. 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:16.800 You just tell me if I've gone a little bit too. 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:22.440 You go to your plans, you can see you can 0:14:22.480 --> 0:14:23.440 see who the alpha. 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:23.360 And the. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.000 Bloke behind us. 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:29.400 When you went. 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.520 So when you went to Melbourne, what was the first 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:33.880 conversation you had with with Craig as far as the 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.080 expectations he had on you. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:38.840 It was at the front of his house with that 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:40.800 cafe across the road from his house. 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:45.680 In Oh yeah, what is that? 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:49.640 To be honest, I can't remember, but. 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:57.760 I think I was telling him at the time, like, okay, 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:01.400 I can't remember what the common station was until I 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.400 got the first day of pre season. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.880 Yep. He's like, yeah, you. 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.720 Can't be doing all this Larry stuff after trials and sweet. 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.000 Yeah done, but no problems. But the first ever meeting. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.280 I was so worried about, like moving to another city 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:22.360 or another state. He's like, look, mate, if it doesn't 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.960 work out, we can we can send you back home 0:15:24.960 --> 0:15:27.120 with no stress. So you don't need to worry about that. 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:28.720 Oh really, he always gave you that option, Like. 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:30.880 Yeah, I always that, Yeah, give me that option. But so, 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.800 and that's probably the only thing I remember from that conversation. 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.840 Did you ever have that temptation to go back or 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:36.800 did you love it straight away? 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.600 Rather the first year I was struggling. I didn't know 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:42.520 anything about tax and all that kind of stuff. So 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.120 I went brought a brand new car, brand new highlus. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.800 I didn't know anything about tax I thought of the 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:49.400 multimnion at the time. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:52.680 But yeah, so I bought a brand new car. 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:56.280 I was paying a fortune for that, and then I 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:59.000 have to obviously live in a house and I was 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:00.640 living off like one hundred dollars tow hundred bucks a 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:01.920 week and I was struggling. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:02.800 I ring my best man. 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.720 I said, but I don't think I can stay down anymore, 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:06.960 because I was living off two hundred two hundred bus 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.480 or one hundred bucks a week or whatever it was. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:13.320 And I almost almost moved back. My best man was like, no, 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:17.000 I just stay down to stick to it. And that 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:18.840 was probably just before the season started. So I didn't 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:20.760 know whether I was dayborn. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:25.280 So so you didn't know like obviously that Melbourne preseason 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.320 must have been like a shock to the system for you, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.520 because look, letting people know like Foxy is a is 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:35.840 a sublime athlete, he's a fast twitch man, and in 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:38.560 the gym you can like throw weight around like because 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.520 you're powerful, spots power. But when you were still be 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.840 the one effort man, because you do a lot of 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.480 conditioning games, heaps are running like for a long period 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.840 of time and say like the ball, get out the 0:16:50.880 --> 0:16:53.720 fox and you'd go one hundred meters and score. But 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:56.240 then for the next five minutes in the game, Foxy 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:59.280 was just he was out like you would So that 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.720 first pre seas it must have been that's a minute 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.240 man's moments moment. 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:03.440 Man. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:08.119 Yeah, it was very tough, but believe it. And I 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.399 was pretty I was actually pretty fit. How skinny I 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:14.000 was before I went to Melbourne. That's when it just 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.000 hit me, like a ton of bricks, just the way 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:19.960 they trained and how the intensity of training like after 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.919 a recession, but like you could only walk put their 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:29.320 conditioning games into third h whatever into like we'll find 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:30.240 we'll finish on. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:32.280 Running. 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.800