WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 21 May 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.120 From the skying In Center. 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:08.399 This is Paul Murray, Life, love Sharing, Okay, Stockholm. I'm 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:10.879 going to Parks on Sunday. I'm really pumped about that. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:12.080 We're going to be there. If you want to send 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.280 us an email out tam at skuyews dot com dot au. 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:18.040 Great mood tonight and lots to get to, including something 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.919 you probably haven't heard about thus far. Now as you know, 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.880 Australia sixty forty hell no to change in the constitution 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:29.479 and having the voice. Now, the result of this was 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:32.280 that people believed, okay, the way things are is the 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:34.880 way things should be. But of course there are many 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.720 state governments that have already started a process of entering 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:44.680 into formal legal treaties with indigenous peoples. Now this process 0:00:44.920 --> 0:00:48.239 has been effectively put to one side in Queensland, but 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.120 it is happening in the Northern Territory. It's well and 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:54.760 truly taking place right now in Victoria. Now, the wokest 0:00:54.840 --> 0:00:58.840 state in the Commonwealth, is committed to find the words 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:02.880 that somehow put the past behind us, swile making sure 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:05.679 that the future is the best one possible for Indigenous people. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:09.560 At least that's the idea. Now we've shown you about 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:11.280 some of the things that are being put on the 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:17.280 table as potential ideas for this treaty. Remember Auntie Jill, Well, 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:21.800 Auntie Jill, she had ten separate suggestions that she believed 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:25.680 should actually be there, and among other things, it was 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.960 local cultural learning places for language and culture. But then 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.360 we get into the more controversial that Indigenous people should 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.440 not pay land tax, they should not pay counsel rates, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.040 they should not pay stamp duty, they should get no 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.920 interest loans if they want to buy a house. They 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.480 should have completely free university education, and there should be 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:51.320 greater infrastructure and guaranteed seats on, among other things, local councils. 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:55.360 In part this is why Auntie Jill says this is needed. 0:01:56.680 --> 0:01:57.240 But when I. 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:02.440 Went to school, I learnt about the ancient Greeks, and 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:06.880 I learned about the Egyptians, who their mummies are two 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:07.920 thousand years old. 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:12.839 Hello, what do we see at Tullamarine? 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.640 And I don't mean a flag or a few paintings. 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:24.600 I'm talking about proper culture in the landscape. We are invisible, 0:02:24.880 --> 0:02:27.480 and we are invisible in our own country. 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:32.600 I disagree strongly, but that was her speech to the 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:36.920 First Nation's Assembly, who in part will be negotiating this treaty. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:42.399 But today even more information about what is on and 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:45.680 off the table, and put simply, everything is on the 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.480 table from the perspective of the Victorian government. Now all 0:02:49.520 --> 0:02:52.720 of us understand the histories that we have all lived, 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:56.000 and the histories that certainly Indigenous people have lived, and 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.280 yes there needs to be some formal recognition of what 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.519 has happened. Also, we need to understand that the future 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.680 of our country is blank pages. And it's regardless of 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.320 how long you've been here, how long your ancestors have 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:10.440 been here, that you are connected to that future. Well, 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:15.160 the Ollen government has said today that nothing is off 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:20.800 the table, even the compulsory acquisition of private property. Now, 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:23.400 how many times have we had this conversation from marlbo 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.640 and Wick and the voice that this would not be 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:29.040 part of the conversation. Well, the Ollen government has refused 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.920 to rule out giving compulsory acquired private property to Indigenous 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:37.880 groups and establishing seats designated for Indigenous members in the 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:43.200 Victorian Parliament. Now, the minister who is taking care of 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.839 the treaty process and has plenty to say about First 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:49.400 Nations people as their relevant minister is a lady named 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:52.480 Natalie Hutchins, and this is what she said when she 0:03:52.560 --> 0:03:56.000 was asked by people in a parliamentary committee today in Victoria. Okay, 0:03:56.200 --> 0:04:00.360 what's too far? Quote? After two hundred years of colonization, 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:04.160 where this state took lands away in the settlement, murdered 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.240 people and took away culture and language, we are not 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.440 going to be ruling anything in or out as we 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:18.000 go into the negotiation table in regards to a treaty. Now, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.599 even if you are the most generous of heart and 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:24.120 believe that a treaty is a necessary step in reconciliation 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.880 or the very least putting our past behind us, at 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.320 some point in time, don't we have to know what 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.760 is the line that is too far? Now? Auntie Jill, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.719 when we pointed this out a few months ago, said 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:41.880 that's not the plan, that's just her suggestions. The government 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:45.720 today say that there is no suggestion whatsoever about the 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:50.960 acquisition of private property. So why not rule it out. 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:52.600 Why not say we are going to come up with 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.560 a treaty. It is going to be generous, there is 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.760 going to be a level of compensation. But rule out 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:01.760 to the people of Victoria, ardless of their histories, what 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.920 is or isn't on the table. There has to be 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:08.520 a line that is too far surely right. Otherwise, when 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:11.200 none of this stuff is voted on by the people 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:16.320 of Victoria, the government of Victoria will end up negotiating 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.000 on their behalf and may well negotiate on things that 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:24.240 the people of Victoria don't want. Now, there are other 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.039 places in the world that have got specific seats in 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.719 their federal parliament for the indigenous peoples of those countries. 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.400 But let's imagine if that was to take place here. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:37.360 How would that work? Who would appoint them? Would there 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:42.240 be labor candidates and liberal candidates, Green's candidates, independent candidates. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:46.720 Would they simply be appointed by the first people's assemblies 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.320 or the voices that exist in some of these more 0:05:50.360 --> 0:05:54.120 woke states. I don't know, but at this stage it 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.159 seems like we're in a treaty process where as soon 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.000 as the demands start to be seen, everyone pretends they're 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.839 not making demands, and the people who will be accepting 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.480 most likely all of the demands are not setting any 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:12.600 limits on the negotiation. Put a pin in it. Victoria 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:18.880 voted no. Even woke Victoria voted no. There is a limit. Well, 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.520 all I have to learn about what it's going to 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.200 be together, and hopefully not after it's already been signed off. 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.760 On our happy anniversary to the greatest prime Minister of 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.360 all time. Two years in the job as prime Minister 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.760 after winning the federal election in twenty twenty one, and 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.200 I mean, the country's never been better, right, I mean 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.120 every single promise that was made has come true. I mean, 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.680 this is the most transparent government ever. This is the 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:49.320 government that remember it promised to lower the cost of living. 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.839 Oh that's right. None of all of those things have 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.000 actually taken place. In fact, many of it has got worse. 0:06:55.240 --> 0:06:58.400 And it's not just our hunch. The latest opinion polls, 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:01.480 even coming from the sources that would be most sympathetic 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.000 to this government, are telling us where the majority of 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.240 people are. And it's not a slim majority. According to 0:07:08.279 --> 0:07:10.920 the Essential Polls, which pops up in the Turnbal Times 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.880 otherwise known as The Guardian, sixty eight percent of people 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.840 say that inflation has increased in the past twelve months, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.200 sixty five percent of people say that their interest rates 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.800 have increased in the past twelve months, and fifty five 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.840 percent of people have said that government debt has increased 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.600 and all of those things are facts. I'm not entirely 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.680 sure why it's not one hundred percent, but still seventy 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:35.240 percent of people feel that inflation is worse in the 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.600 second year of this government, even worse than the massive 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.240 increase in the first year, let alone the interest rate 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:44.400 pain and squeeze which is taking place as we speak. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:50.000 But just one week ago tonight, the federal budget was 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.680 handed down by Jim Chalmers. The theatrics were that every 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:56.040 labor mp was giving a standing of ocean. This is amazing, 0:07:56.080 --> 0:08:00.560 where fixed everything with too little, too late? Tax cuts 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:05.040 and twenty five bucks a month that you won't see 0:08:05.080 --> 0:08:11.480 on your power bill. So again, is just this cynical, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:15.040 jaded mind of a bearded bloke on Sky News that 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:19.880 cannot see the genius of this budget? Well, no, same pole, 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.880 same people. Just twenty seven percent of people believe that 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:26.520 this budget will have a meaningful impact on cost of living. 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.680 Seven out of ten don't because seven out of ten 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:32.760 no that thirty six dollars a week when it comes 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.920 to tax cuts, it doesn't even begin to touch the 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.640 middle let alone the sides and seventy five dollars a 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.840 quarter or twenty five bucks a month is hardly going 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:45.880 to actually change the world when it comes to power bills. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:51.280 And remember, straight after the speech took place, one of 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:52.760 the first things to come out of my mouth and 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.720 the five things that I noticed about the budget which 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.320 feels like a long time ago, but it was one 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:01.640 week agode tonight. One week ago was in service of 0:09:01.679 --> 0:09:06.080 the slogan of every household power and every worker tax cut. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.920 The reality was, when it comes to the tax cut, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.200 it's not going to be enough. It's a little too late. 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.839 And when it comes to the power bills, every household 0:09:12.880 --> 0:09:17.600 includes mansions, the mansions in the capital cities or some 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.720 of the most cashed up people amongst us. The argument 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:24.599 of the time apparently was that means testing was unnecessary 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:28.120 because everyone on the income spectrum is feeling issues when 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:29.720 it comes to cost of living. Then it came out 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.280 two days later the reality was it was too expensive 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:36.600 to means tested. Well, guess what again. The vast majority 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.920 of Australians think about the budget, which is just one 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.880 week old tonight, and the idea that the power bills 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:48.080 in mansions are being treated the same as people in 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:53.320 housing Commission. Sixty percent say the policy is wrong and 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:58.040 it should be redirected specifically to low and middle income homes. These, 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.160 by the way, the low and middle income homes the 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.520 same people who twelve months ago in the budget had 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.920 fifteen hundred dollars torn out of their hot little hands 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:12.400 as an automatic tax return. So this government is not 0:10:12.720 --> 0:10:15.400 focusing on what they say it does two years in 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.679 the gaping chasm between their promises and an election, let 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.880 alone their rhetoric as a government. And can I commend 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:27.160 strongly commend Chris Kenny for going chapter and verse through 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:29.839 all the lies, all of the obfuscation of the past 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.120 two years. I'll be posting that up on our socials, 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.240 but otherwise go look for it at skynews dot com 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:38.160 dot au Sensational Editorial. All the others were great as well, 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.480 but chris is on this particular topic really stood out 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:44.080 to me. Now, of course, when it comes to interest rates, 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:46.560 remember that was all the Reserve Bank's fault, and that's 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.240 only that evil Philip Lowe who's been sacked a long 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:52.160 time ago, only be to replace by his deputy who 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.960 actually increased rates as well. But all of the reason 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:57.640 that interest rates are going up has nothing to do 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:03.160 with domestic affairs. It's all to do with Ukraine or Gaza. Well, 0:11:03.240 --> 0:11:07.480 guess what. Even in the Sydney Morning Herald, the Age 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:12.040 and the Brisbane Times, fifty two percent of people say 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:17.920 that interest rates are mainly about domestic factors. In Australia, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.480 sixty six percent of Coalition voters know it, more than 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.440 half of other voters, and even thirty six percent of 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.080 labor people know that government isn't telling the truth about 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.120 why interest rates keep going up. Oh, it's international factors, 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.400 it's here, and who's in charge of the economy here? 0:11:35.920 --> 0:11:40.360 Old made albo with his alboonmics, which means bugger all 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:42.880 tax cut for you, but a brand new private plane 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:46.640 for him and another one for his ministers four hundred 0:11:46.800 --> 0:11:52.360 million dollars on private jets. Oh and of course people 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.600 living in the ritziest suburbs of all they can get 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:59.440 a power bill cut that they won't notice now. Of course, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.280 in reply, Peter Dutton, I think was able to change 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.679 the subject very quickly, just two days after the budget. Again, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:07.280 this is all just last week. I know it all 0:12:07.280 --> 0:12:10.480 feels like a month ago, but it was one week ago. 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:13.880 And Peter Dutton made it very clear about what he 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.000 believed to be some of the great problems of the country. Well, 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.760 guess what the ABC and its fact checkers were sent 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.200 out with a job, and that was to prove that 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:23.640 Peter Dutton was lying that the Aussie version of Donald 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.720 Trump was race vaiting, and their so called fact check 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.560 organization was sent off to run the rule of the 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:33.200 statements like this. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.760 More than sixteen thousand businesses around the country have gone 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:42.720 insolvent since the first of July twenty twenty two. Behind 0:12:42.760 --> 0:12:45.120 each of those as a family who may have lost 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:46.960 their home but certainly have lost their savings. 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:53.320 And they found that he was telling the truth. At 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:55.400 the time, in solvency figures were released by the Australian 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.760 Bureau by the Australian Securities and Investment Commission, they showed 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.599 that there was indeed a three god increase in the 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:05.320 number of manufacturing insolvencies in the first six months. Well, then, 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.680 of course Peter Dutton talked about health. He was a 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.800 former Health minister and he talked about some of the 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.439 great problems happening there as well. 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.559 People's health and wellbeing are suffering. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.679 Indeed, when I became Health Minister in twenty thirteen, we 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.760 inherited a bulk billing rate from Labour of seventy three 0:13:20.800 --> 0:13:24.360 percent and increased it to eighty four percent. When we 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.439 left government, bulk billing was eighty eight point five percent. 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.000 What Labour tried to hide in its budget and a 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.640 figure that wasn't mentioned by the Treasurer is that bolk 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:36.719 billing has decreased under Labour to seventy seven percent and 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:40.720 eleven percent drop. Always look at what Labor does, not 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:41.960 what they say they will do. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.199 Well, knock me down with a feather. The leader of 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:48.640 the opposition, the alternative Prime Minister, was telling a dirty, 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:53.120 great big truth. Fact checking again from the ABC. The 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:56.760 lattert start I released this week last week shows that 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.360 in the year of March twenty twenty four, seventy seven 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:02.720 percent of GPS these were bolk billing. It was eighty 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.400 five percent when Labour became the government two years ago. Tonight, 0:14:08.120 --> 0:14:09.199 and what about inflation? 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:17.559 In comparative inflation, Australia is worse than the US, Singapore, Germany, Spain, Japan, 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:23.520 the Netherlands, Italy, South Korea, Canada, France and the entire 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:24.480 euro Area. 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:28.560 You can imagine the streamers that were going off when 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:30.960 the fact checkers were able to find it was yet 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.920 again the truth in quarterly data for March twenty and 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.800 twenty four shows Australia's headline inflation raised three point six 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.920 percent over the preceding twelve months. It is indeed above 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.600 that of the OECD economies that mister Dunton mentioned. Oh, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.880 I'm not finished. And then when it came to. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:53.360 Power bills, electricity bills haven't gone down by two hundred 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.920 and seventy five dollars as was pledged on ninety seven occasions, 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:58.320 they've skyrockets. 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:01.320 Now, you and I know this to be the absolute fact. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.840 You and I know this to be the truth. However, 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.400 the fact checkers say they can't rule on this one 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.920 because the pledge from labor is about twenty twenty five, 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.760 and it's not twenty twenty five yet. But even then, 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:16.000 remember the Treasurer has already openly said the two to 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.120 seventy five promise, which by the way, would be the 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.080 permanent change to your bills, not just sugarheit of the 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.680 three hundred dollars which they're going to pump out between 0:15:23.680 --> 0:15:27.240 now and the next federal election. Oh, in massive seventy 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:31.600 five dollars a quarter, or twenty five dollars a month increments. 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:37.200 I mean, thank goodness. The Treasurer of course has turned 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:41.160 around and said, ah, yeah, that promise doesn't really count. 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.040 The number you're referring to is a forecast in twenty 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.600 one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.320 bill relief in the here and now. We did in 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.680 the last budget. We are again in the next budget, 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.040 but there'll be more relief for more people in this budget. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:02.640 Extraordinary, truly extraordinary. Was one week ago. One week ago 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.480 feels like three weeks and maybe even longer. That's why 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.840 it's worth actually following what the people end up saying, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:14.360 what the pundits end up saying, and even what the 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.400 fact checkers have been able to see here. Notice they 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:20.280 didn't do that for the budget though, I wonder why. 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.240 Meantime on social media and the excellent campaign which is 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.440 being waged by an awful lot of people around the 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:30.040 country right now, including Fitzi and Whipper on Nova in Sydney, 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:33.400 all the way through to the Telegraph, The Herald's Son, 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:37.880 the Corea Male, the Adelaide Advertiser, the Hobart Mercury, which 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:41.360 is to get our kids off social media and try 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:46.920 to limit it once they become teenagers. Now, surprise, surprise, 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.280 the Prime Minister. Well, he said plenty to say today, 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:51.400 But where was he a couple of weeks ago when 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:55.240 it was Peter Malanowska saying that we should introduce age 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.880 limits to access it, or Chris Min's in New South 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:00.800 Wales who was saying it as late as yes, well, 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.359 prime minister spotting that the bandwagon is moving, the bandwagon 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.480 is moving. He now officially cares about what he has 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.240 never shown an interest in until other people came up 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:12.960 with the idea. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:19.879 We put in the budget money for a trial essentially 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:25.600 of how we can restrict age restrictions, how it can 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:29.040 be effective that will take place. We want to make 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:32.960 sure that any changes that are made actually work. The 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.439 internet is difficult. I don't look at the comments on 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:41.040 my social media because if I did, I'd find it 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:45.640 difficult to leave the house in the morning. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.000 Didn'ts He was fine, of course when the Internet was 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.000 piling on the person he was trying to get rid 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:54.040 of a couple of years ago. But you know whatever, 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.960 that was all personal and now everything's cyclical. That was 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.800 some very weasily words. The Prime Minister says, Oh, in 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:04.480 the budget, we put some money aside to check age verification. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.439 That's not for social media. Remember that's one of the 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.920 very few things that came out of a national Cabinet 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.639 meeting about domestic violence, and that was about age, a 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:17.880 trial on age limiting access to pornography. So he's trying 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:19.600 to pretend that a policy that has nothing to do 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.159 with social media is one that he's already funded because 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.560 he expects that you're not going to be able to 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:26.560 follow the bouncing ball or people that were driving around 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.280 listening to FM radio this morning. I mean, that's the 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:33.360 slipperiness of this blow. Now, this guy has shared many 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:36.359 a national Cabinet meeting where all of the states and 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:40.480 all of the territories can get together. He's had a 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:44.840 national cabinet meeting since Peter Malinowskis made the suggestion about 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:48.720 age verification and access to social media. Yet was it 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.520 discussed when all of the territory and state leaders were 0:18:51.520 --> 0:18:54.560 in the room. No, when they were all in the room, 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:57.440 did he say, just like John Howard did after port Arthur, 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:01.119 let's all pass the same piece of paper that says 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.640 that if somebody has formed as a domestic violence perpetrator. 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:12.240 There is no option for bail noe. He just thinks 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:15.439 that he can slide money that's really about this and 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.440 pretend that it's about that. He comes out and says 0:19:18.480 --> 0:19:21.280 there's a press conference for five thousand dollars for emergency 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.680 payments to people that are domestic violence victims. You know 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.679 that doesn't kick in until the first of July, not 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:33.280 this year, next year. And again, as Chris pointed out 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.560 on his show today and many hosts have over the 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:40.760 past two years, this bloke who claimed he would be 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.679 totally responsible for every decision that has made, has endlessly lied, 0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:48.159 changed the subject, or just straight out gas lit people. 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.560 That was a disgrace what he did on the radio today. 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:54.040 But at least he's starting to say the policy is 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:56.680 a good idea, but he's not putting any money behind it. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.119 Now we know one of the favorite words of the 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.800 left when they lose an argument is that apparently people 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:09.159 fall for a swear word starting in M. 0:20:10.640 --> 0:20:16.200 Misinformation, misinformation, misinformation, the misinformation which is there some misinformation. 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:22.320 So they're now trying to censor the internet where anyone, 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.959 including the minister can say what they see on the 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:29.040 Internet is not the official line, so therefore it's adjudicated 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.439 by a bunch of bureaucrats who will decide if it 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:34.439 is or isn't misinformation, you know, government's version of the truth, 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:36.159 and then they'll turn around and put a fine on 0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.919 a social media company if the post stays up after 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.840 the complaint has been lodged with them. The idea here 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.400 is not to stop fake news, it's to stop inconvenient truths, 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.080 because you see after a while social media companies, if 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.560 they keep getting complaints about certain websites, they just won't 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:59.160 host those. Certain websites could even well be YouTube videos 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:03.560 of people who will push back against the government narrative 0:21:03.560 --> 0:21:04.919 and do what we do here each and every night, 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:07.479 which is use the data to prove that they are 0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:11.639 laying well. There's a new participant in the want to 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.560 sense of the Internet, and it is, in my view, 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:19.920 a concerning one. It's the Australian Electoral Commission. Now, Australia 0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:23.840 has an electoral system that we trust, and I think 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:25.520 in part of the reason why we trust it is 0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.960 because we do not know the political affiliations or even 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:34.280 complaints about wider society from the people who take care 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:38.199 of our elections. Now, the AAC is not perfect, but 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.760 there's certainly no need for people to have an attitude 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.720 about the Australian electoral process that some people have had 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:51.040 about other countries' processes in recent elections. Now, the misinformation 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.639 conversation was brought up today, as you saw by the 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:56.000 Boss of the Electoral Commission, who was giving evidence today 0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.320 to a parliamentary inquiry. Let's read along here. In an 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:04.280 appearance before the Committee into adopting artificial intelligence on Monday, 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:07.800 Australian Electoral Commission boss said that there had been a 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:13.200 trend among some among social media organizations to moderate misinformation 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.679 in the public square rather than remove it from their 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:23.200 platforms entirely. Remember, a lie or defamation is one thing. 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.720 Misinformation is just simply what the government doesn't approve of. 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:31.320 We've noticed less willingness from the social media companies to 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:34.159 remove content that we think, in some cases may breach 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:37.800 our own standards or is indeed harmful to our staff. Now, 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:42.000 anyone who's making threats against the Electoral Commission, obviously that 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:43.960 should be dealt within the same way that any threat 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:47.040 against any public official. I have no problem with that. 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.520 He says that we've seen issues where threats online that 0:22:51.600 --> 0:22:54.520 previously would have been removed were less likely to be removed. Now, 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:57.560 that's interesting, and nobody's going to stand up for a 0:22:57.600 --> 0:22:59.919 system that allows people to be intimidated. That are the 0:23:00.040 --> 0:23:05.960 people that put themselves forward to administer our elections. But 0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.600 forgive me if the person who is using the misinformation 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:13.760 word in tacit support of greater attempts to censor the 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:17.720 Internet is the same organization that was fine with this 0:23:17.880 --> 0:23:23.440 lie being shown night after night, hour after hour on television. 0:23:24.000 --> 0:23:27.040 Forgive me if I don't exactly scream to their cause 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:30.600 when they say misinformation is destroying our democracy. 0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:36.879 Everybody knows you don't set up a Medicare Privatization task 0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.440 Force unless you aim to privatize Medicare. 0:23:42.359 --> 0:23:44.800 Great man, but that was a wicked lie, an absolutely 0:23:44.880 --> 0:23:48.800