1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: On sky Lives Ostrodia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panalty Show. Good evening and welcome 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 2: to the reda panehe Show. 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, the Victorian Liberal Party celebrate a positive 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 3: poll result by dumping their leader and electing a first 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 3: term MP to lead them to the next election. Nikata 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 3: will discuss that and the day's other top headlines. The 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: New South Wales Libs are sticking with met zero despite 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: their federal counterparts dumping the policy professor in Pimer. 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: We'll have more on that later. 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: Kosha Gator will have the latest from the US, including 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: startling revelations about Thomas Cooks, the man who tried to 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 3: assassinate Donald Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. The always droll Alex 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: Stein joins the program and will be covering everything from 15 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 3: the UFC to war crimes and left his Losing it. 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: We find out what question had the co founder of 17 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 3: Wikipedia lose his mind? 18 00:00:59,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: You know what I'm done? 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 5: I wish is you? 20 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 4: Thanks? 21 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 6: What's going on? 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 7: It's stupid. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 8: Don't ask me stupid questions. 24 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,680 Speaker 3: But let's start in Victoria, where Jess Wilson has been 25 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 3: elected the new leader of the Victorian Liberal Party after 26 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: Brad Batton lost a spill motion in a closed door 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: party room meeting. The Australian reports the vote for the 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 3: Victorian Liberal leadership spill motion was nineteen to thirteen. Brad 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: Baton lost despite a Freshwater Strategy poll which was released 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 3: shortly before the party room meeting, showed he had an 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 3: election winning lead over Labor. Brad Batton led just into 32 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 3: Allen as preferred premiere forty five percent to thirty four percent, 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,199 Speaker 3: with twenty one percent undecided. Jesse Wilson is a first 34 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 3: term MP and becomes the first female leader of the 35 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: state Liberal Party. She's outlined her priorities. 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: Here's what she said is. 37 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 5: Leader, I have a clear focus. I have clear priorities. 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 5: One get the budget back into control so we can 39 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 5: invest in things that matter. Two to end the crime crisis. 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 5: Three to make sure that Victorians can get access to 41 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 5: the healthcare that they need and deserve. And four to 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 5: give every Victorian the best opportunity to own their own 43 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 5: home in this state. 44 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 3: Deputy Victorian Liberal Leader Sam Groth also survived a challenge 45 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: to his position by Police spokesman David Southwick. Let's bring 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 3: in mensi's research center. Senior fellow Nick Kata Nick, how 47 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 3: do you see today's events? 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 3: I mean the Victorian Libs just seem to be uniquely hopeless. 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: They seem hell bent on not winning an election. 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,679 Speaker 8: Well, I think Jess Wilson was perfectly right on those 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 8: four priorities. I put the top two as cost of 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 8: living and crime in Victoria. There's another one though she 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 8: missed off, and that's competency, and that's competency within the 55 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 8: Liberal parts. Because unless the Liberal Party is match fit, 56 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 8: nothing will happen at the next election other than what 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 8: happened at the last election will have another term of 58 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 8: labor government. So that is the biggest challenge for because 59 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 8: unless she gets that right, unless you can get knock 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 8: some discipline into that party, get it wanting to win 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 8: the election, getting it focused on winning the election, then 62 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 8: nothing else counts. I wish her all the best with that, 63 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 8: and I hope she manages it because for the sake 64 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 8: of people in Victoria, we really need that change of government. 65 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 3: Well, she said nothing about the treaty. You could win 66 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: an election based on that alone. I can understand why 67 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: she didn't say anything about that, because she was the 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 3: lone Victorian Liberal who on the record said she was 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 3: voting yes in the referendum. She said nothing there about 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: land tax, she said nothing really there about energy policy, 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: gas exploration. There was a lotched in touch, including Labour's 72 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: crazy culture wars Nick. 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 2: But the treaty is a big issue. 74 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: Just Inta Allen was on three a w earlier this 75 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 3: week defending the. 76 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 2: Voice and treaty. Have a listen. 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 9: You know, you well know why the ten year long 78 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 9: journey on hearing Victoria on Treaty has been pursued. It's 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 9: because the evidence in the data shows that for Indigenous Victorian's, 80 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 9: Indigenous Australians, there has been ongoing systematic disadvantage as a 81 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 9: result of the experience of colonization. 82 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: And so that is well understood. 83 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: There you have it, ongoing systematic oppression discrimination because of colonization. 84 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: Victorians voted no Nick like the rest of the country, 85 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 3: and yet we are not only receiving a voice, but. 86 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: We're also getting a treaty. 87 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: And Jess Wilson seems to be not in a great 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 3: position to fight that policy, given she back the Federal 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 3: Voice and she was a lone voice within the Liberal 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 3: Party to public do that. 91 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: How does she reconcile those two positions. 92 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 8: Well, you're absolutely right to draw attention to those comments 93 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 8: from Jacinta Allen. You know, this whole idea that today's 94 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 8: generation of Aboriginals are traumatized because of what happened to 95 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 8: their ancestors two hundred years ago, that is rubbish, That 96 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 8: is junk science. 97 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: It's just not true. 98 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 8: So we can forget that argument. As for Jess Wilson, well, look, 99 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 8: I think there is so much woke rubbish that needs 100 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 8: to be unpacked, and I hope she is determined to 101 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 8: do this, but she first has to get elected, and 102 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 8: to do that you need three or four clear issues. 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 8: She hasn't chosen to make this one of her four 104 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 8: issues to date. Maybe that in the end won't matter 105 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 8: because she's going to the heart of what is really 106 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 8: hurting people at the moment, which is cost of living, 107 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 8: and of course she must bring energy into that. She 108 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 8: must point out that the way that the Victorian government 109 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 8: is going on net zero is increasing prices of electricity 110 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 8: vastly and reducing security supply. Has to do that. But 111 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 8: you can all that together as coss a living which 112 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 8: is hurting people, and crime and the just hope that 113 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 8: the people like you Reta. Newspapers like The Herald Sunnell 114 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 8: continue to campaign on this other stuff that they're doing 115 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,559 Speaker 8: to bring it to the attention of Victorians who don't 116 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 8: like this stuff one bit at all. It just builds 117 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 8: momentum for a change. 118 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: You need the opposition leader to oppose, and I don't 119 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: think she's going to be opposing too much when it comes. 120 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 2: To net zero because I think she backs it. 121 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: This is what happens when you elect smaller Liberals to 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 3: lead the party. You want them to go against their 123 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 3: own principles and ideology. 124 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to happen. 125 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: Let's hear from the defeated Liberal leader, Brad Batton. 126 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: He was quite emotional after the vote. 127 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 10: I stand continuously proud in the role that I've done 128 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 10: and the things that I've done for the community. The 129 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 10: Victorian Liberal Party now has a very clear path to 130 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 10: go towards the next selection. When I sat in that 131 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 10: room just then and obviously I'm out here now first 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 10: so the vote didn't go my way. But what I 133 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 10: will tell you is I was sitting there thinking of 134 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 10: people like Mark and Taneil who have had people come 135 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 10: into their home and the Victorian Liberal Party need to 136 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 10: make sure that we're on path to ensure that we 137 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 10: can get into power at the next election because we 138 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 10: need to see genuine change. 139 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: The reports are and James Campbell and the Herald Sign 140 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: has written this that Brad Batton came undone as a 141 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 3: leader when he moved James Newberry out of the Shadow 142 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 3: Treasurer position and he's a backing of that. Loan to 143 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: John Pursuto has also upset many within the Liberal Party. 144 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 3: But let's move on to New south Wales. Their leader, 145 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: Mark Speakman, has avoided a leadership spill, but there are 146 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: still questions surrounding his future as the party's leader. Members 147 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 3: of the state Liberal Party met this morning to debate 148 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: the net zero policy, and the majority of Liberal MPs 149 00:07:55,800 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: back the existing policy. Nick This comes as the Nationals 150 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 3: elect a new leader again. It seems to be fair 151 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: bit of turmoil and how can the New South Wales 152 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 3: Libs have a policy that's so different to their federal counterparts. 153 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 8: Well, exactly Rider, And the point is it's not their 154 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 8: business anyway. Like the net zero nonsense, the Paris Agreement. 155 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 8: The federal government signs up for that, not the New 156 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 8: South Wales government, Not the Victorian government. And one of 157 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 8: the big problems through their energy policy is that these 158 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 8: state governments keep intervening and setting these targets and all 159 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 8: this stuff, and you can't run a national electricity grid 160 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 8: like that. Yes, they're responsible out of the constitution for 161 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 8: providing electricity. Yes, they're responsible to make sure the generators 162 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 8: stay pumping out electricity twenty four hours a day. They 163 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 8: should be responsible for making sure that it is the 164 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 8: cheapest possible power that you can produce, because that will 165 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 8: attract business and industry to the state. But beyond that, no, 166 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 8: I think it's all fluff and nonsense and they need 167 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 8: to stop getting distracted. They seem to not stop following 168 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 8: the Mackin path and think, you know, somehow the great 169 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 8: climate heroes, and just get on with the job of 170 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 8: making sure that I can turn on my lectures to 171 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 8: whenever I want, and I know it's going to be 172 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 8: as cheap as it can possibly be. 173 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about foreign mister Penny Wog She's praised 174 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: Australia's economic relationship with China. During a keynote address at 175 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 3: the Australian Institute of International Affairs and an event they 176 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: were holding, she said Australia didn't need to choose between 177 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 3: protecting its sovereignty and maintaining productive economic ties with Beijing. 178 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 11: Have a listen, well, we want is a relationship that 179 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 11: allows us to cooperate and engage with China on prosecuting 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 11: our national interests and whilst bilding security and prospiraity in 181 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 11: our agion. 182 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 2: Nick, is that broadly the coalition position too? 183 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 8: Well, I hope the coreddctions going a bit harder on this. 184 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 8: I mean, I see Penny Wong said that we have 185 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 8: to quite encouraged when I heard her say we have 186 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 8: to increase our defense and then she went on against misinformation. No, 187 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 8: we've just an increaser full stop, Misswan. You know, China 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 8: is a really threatening, aggressive and unfriendly actor strategically in 189 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 8: our region. It happens to be one of our biggest 190 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 8: trading partners. Well, that's fine, but we cannot afford to 191 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 8: look naively at China or their intentions. We can't get 192 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 8: sucked into that sort of you know, Beijing banquet diplomacy 193 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 8: that all these people get treated to when they go there. 194 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 8: I've been through this. They can be very you know, 195 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 8: warm and lovely hosts for an evening. 196 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 4: But it's very much. 197 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 8: You know, China is a country we need to be 198 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 8: very very wary of. And I do worry with this 199 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 8: government Penny Wang and near alban Easy. They don't seem 200 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 8: to realize that. They seem to think we can be 201 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 8: deep buddies with China. No, I don't think we can. 202 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean, surely she would be fully aware of Beijing's 203 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 3: global ambitions. As you said, they're aggressive, they're unfriendly, and 204 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 3: they think long term. They're not thinking in next two 205 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 3: to three years. They're thinking next thirty, forty fifty years. 206 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 2: And I think that gives them an enormous advantage. 207 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 8: Nick, Well, it does, especially with the government like this, 208 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 8: which only thinks for the next five minutes. And what 209 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 8: this's where is the where is the rigor in this government? 210 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 8: Where's the determination to reigning costs like the ndis so 211 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 8: that we can allocate government spending where it should properly 212 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 8: be in lower taxes and defending this country. We need 213 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 8: to increase the amount we spend on defense. We need 214 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 8: to do it very very quickly. But you see none 215 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 8: of that sense of urgency in this government, and very 216 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 8: mixed messages sometimes coming out of both Penny Wong and 217 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 8: Anthony Alberesi. 218 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Anthony Albernesi has dismissed two court rulings which found Brittney 219 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 3: Higgins Allee was never the subject of a political cover up. 220 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: A Federal court judge and a Western Australian Supreme Court 221 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: judge found claims by Brittany Higgins off a political cover 222 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 3: up of an alleged rape were not just false, but dishonest. 223 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: The Prime Minister was asked about whether Penny Wong. 224 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: And Katie Gallagher, Linda Reynolds and Fiona Brown an apology. 225 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 12: Here's what he said, Well, thank you for reading that question. 226 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: A judge found the issue on Brittany Higgins a very 227 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: different from the way that you characterize it. 228 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: That was a very dismissive, rather rude way to answer 229 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 3: that question. 230 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for reading that question. Nick. 231 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 3: The Prime Minister doesn't seem to be taking this seriously, 232 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 3: and I think it's something that. 233 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: Goes to the Labor Party's credibility. 234 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 3: They weaponized this incident to blame the Scott Morrison government, 235 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: to paint this hideous picture just as simply was not true. 236 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 8: It goes to the character and honor of the Prime 237 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 8: Minister himself, the fact that he cannot see that this 238 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 8: was such a sordid, ced and cynegal attack that was 239 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 8: completely unfair, that destroyed the parliamentary career, destroyed the ministerial 240 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 8: career of a very honorable and decent woman. He cannot 241 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 8: recognize that, he cannot apparently see any empathy over this, 242 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 8: and instead they just play that hard nosed Labor politics 243 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 8: over and over again. Penny Wong and Katie Gallagher should 244 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 8: just crawl under the beds and never come out in 245 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 8: shame over this. It is such a tacky incident. I 246 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 8: feel we shouldn't even have to talk about things so 247 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 8: unpleasant on your show. But this is politics these days, 248 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 8: as practiced by the Labor Party, and I hope we 249 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 8: never see It's like a. 250 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: We had here a terrible alleged incident and an alleged 251 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 3: rape being used to demonize the Scott Morrison government, to 252 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 3: demonize Linda Reynolds Fear and a Brown women who had 253 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 3: done nothing wrong, and the way they were treated and 254 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: the way their lives were impacted is quite shameful. To 255 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: to try to bring politics into an alleged rape when 256 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 3: there was no political cover up, and that became the 257 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 3: story the political cover up, So the. 258 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: Prime Minister needs to address that. 259 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: He also needs to address how they came to that 260 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: compensation amount, in the time they did, and the manner 261 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: they did. Nikata, thank you so much for your time tonight. 262 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 3: Joining me now is a esteem geologist and author, Professor 263 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 3: Ian plymer Ian. 264 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 2: Let's start in New South Wales. 265 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: The coalition's net zero policy has put the Liberal leader, 266 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 3: their Mark Speakman, in a difficult position. While the Libs 267 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: have relatedly walked away from that zero federally, at state level, 268 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 3: a large number of New South Wales of WIMPs remain 269 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 3: in favor of their twenty to fifty emissions reduction target. 270 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 3: Earlier today, the Libs debated their. 271 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 2: Energy policy during an extended party room. 272 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: Meeting, and there are no signs the end that the 273 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: policy will be changing. 274 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: Well, the federal Liberals are half pregnant. 275 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: They couldn't expunge the words like Paris, they couldn't get 276 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: rid of words like a decarbonization. 277 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 4: So they've been dragged screaming into this situation. 278 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: They've been dragged into it by their members and by 279 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: the electorate. Now, as Nick Cator correctly said, this has 280 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: got nothing to do with the state Liberal party. It's 281 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: got nothing to do with the state opposition. And I 282 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: think you're quite right. This is the keen factor which 283 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: is still overhanging everywhere. So the state Liberals have to 284 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: win an election. And the way to win an election 285 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: is to figure get about at zero, worry about the 286 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: cost of living, worry about the fact that people's power 287 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: is exorbitant. People's power once needs to be cheap, people's 288 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: power once needs to be reliable. It isn't any longer. 289 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Start acting on behalf of the people rather than non petty, 290 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: pathetic little fights within the party room. 291 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 4: And these fights are done by those who have no knowledge. 292 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: They should watch Sky, watch this program, watch Chris Kenny, 293 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: watch Outsiders to see that there's a large body of 294 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: science out there that shows that human induced global warming 295 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: is absolute nonsense. Why should we waste taxpayers money on it? 296 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: Why should we even go down the line of pushing 297 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: up people's electricity costs. Focus on the issue, and the 298 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: issue is the cost of living. And the issue is 299 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: that you can perhaps fix this by going back to. 300 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 4: Cheap, reliable electricity that we once had. So I think 301 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 4: need this. 302 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Southwald's Liberal Party is in Cuckoo Land. They're making sure 303 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: that labor continues to be in. 304 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 4: Power in New South Wales. 305 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: It's about time they got real, got west of the 306 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: Blue Mountains and start to talk to people and people 307 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: that might actually be affected by climate change policies. 308 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: And you're coming to us from Saudi Arabia. What's the 309 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: attitude there to net zero? 310 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,199 Speaker 4: They just don't care. I work in a lot of 311 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 4: different countries around the world. 312 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: It's only Western Christian countries that are replacing Christianity with 313 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: this new religion called climate change. 314 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 4: They don't care. 315 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: They're interested in building a booming economy. Now I work 316 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: in many other countries in the world. It's exactly the same. 317 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: And we have this disease of the West where we've 318 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: replaced Christianity with a new religion, and that new religion 319 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: we pay penance in that new religion, we pay. 320 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: Indulgences like a high electricity cost. 321 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: In that new religion, have a holy book called the 322 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: IPCC reports. No one thread the four thousand odd pages 323 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: in the Laters's IPCC report, just the same as no 324 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: one has read their holy books. So this is a 325 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: Western phenomenon and it's derived from countries being very wealthy 326 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: being Christian, and people beating their chest trying to bring 327 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: us back into this wonderful, idealistic world of communism. 328 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 3: Now there's some new research this will interest you, that 329 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: indicates a key Atlantic current could be pushed to the 330 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: brink of collapse within decades and ian that would usher 331 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: in a new ice age. Forget about global warming and 332 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: ice age dramatically rising sea levels. These claims are by 333 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: climate scientists in a controversial new study. 334 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 2: I can see why they. 335 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 3: Went from global warming to climate change, and that covers everything. 336 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 2: Now you can also cover a new ice age. 337 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: Well, excuse me while I yawn and times we heard 338 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: that the golf stream is going to collapse. Now, the 339 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: gold stream brings tropical warm water up to the far 340 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: northern reaches of the Northern Hemisphere, and so this is 341 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: why we have such as in northern Norway, the port 342 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: of Narvik. 343 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 4: It's a warmwater port. If the gold stream. 344 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: Shifted, which it has done in the past, then you 345 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: will freeze the northern part of the Northern Hemisphere. 346 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 4: That's happened before, it'll happen again. 347 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 1: And models might be used to try to predict this. 348 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: But we know from history that We've had a freezing 349 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: of the north, so it's nothing surprising. We shouldn't be 350 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: worried about it. In the past when it happened, we 351 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: didn't have double or triple glazing, we didn't have modern 352 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: heating systems, we didn't have the transport systems that we 353 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 1: have now. So these are people frightening as witness, trying 354 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: to win more research grants and using models. 355 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: And every time something is modeled, I am very skeptical. 356 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: Now, before you go, we had the COP thirty talk 357 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: fest in Brazil last week and of course all the 358 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 3: climate activists were out and about and they were dragging 359 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: around statues, on flattering statues of Donald Trump. 360 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: But he's always naked. 361 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: They're obsessed with him being naked. What is the goal 362 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: of this conference these days? And just as importantly in 363 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: why did Australian Taxpace fund almost five hundred people going? 364 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 3: I could not believe the numbers that we had that 365 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 3: representing Australia at our expense. 366 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 4: The goal. 367 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: The goal is to have huge amounts of money coming 368 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,479 Speaker 1: into honey elected activists and to give bureaucrats Jawdan's two 369 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: wonderful parts of the world where they can tack on 370 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: at the end of this COP conference, they can tack 371 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: on it a couple of days of holidays. The goal 372 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: is not to save the planet. The goal is not 373 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: about the environment, otherwise we wouldn't knock down rainforests and 374 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: destroy farmland. The goal is not to keep countries economically viable. 375 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: The goal is to take money from your pocket with 376 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: government assent, going into unelected people who want to have 377 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: controls in our life. 378 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 4: It is an absolute disgrace. Now, if they. 379 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: Were effective, you would probably have one or perhaps two 380 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: COP meetings and then you would have solved what the 381 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: perceived problems were. We're now up to thirty COP meetings 382 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: and they're still going on. 383 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: They haven't solved anything. 384 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: All they've done is they're picking some exotic place for 385 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: the next COP meeting. 386 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 4: They're their breast beting, and then they get. 387 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: Into their private jet and have Caviat and Champagne on 388 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 1: their way back to their heated or air conditioned mansion. 389 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 4: So this has got nothing to do with the average person. 390 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: This is something that the un started governments have supported 391 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: and activists absolutely love. What on earth Australia should send 392 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 1: anyone is beyond me. 393 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 4: We should have. 394 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: Done what the US did so well, go and have 395 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: your fun, but we're not paying for it and we 396 00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 1: don't support it. 397 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: Goodbye. 398 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 2: That's precisely what we should have done. 399 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: Instead, we've got Chris Bowen lobbying to have the next 400 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 3: one held in Australia. At least we'll save some money 401 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: in airfares. 402 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: But apart from that, we're going to have this. 403 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: Circus in our backyard of professor im Plymar thank you 404 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: for your time and. 405 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 2: Enjoy Saudi Arabia. 406 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: Good night. 407 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 3: Still to karma, left is losing it, plus startling revelations 408 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 3: about Thomas Crooks, the man who tried to assassinate Donald Trump. 409 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: Kosher Gator is up next. 410 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: You're watching The Reader Patney Show, and it's time for 411 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 3: lefties losing it. Let's start in Hollywood with hippie dippy 412 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: actor Woody Harrelson, who seems so likable and chill well 413 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 3: until you hear him say something this stupid and you 414 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: realize he's just another hard left tits suffering, vegan lefty 415 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 3: losing it. 416 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: I wish here a way. 417 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 13: To get rid of that sort of a get in 418 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 13: a great president, you know, but doesn't seem like that's 419 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 13: going to happen, and I don't know how much he's 420 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 13: going to continue to foment hatred. We have a guy 421 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 13: running this country who has hon earthed a lot of 422 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 13: bigotry and a lot of racism, and it seems to 423 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 13: be more virulent than ever. 424 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 8: So yeah, it's strange. 425 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 13: How we just it seems like we're going backward. 426 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 14: Now. 427 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: Remember, for about five minutes Woody Harrelson was railing against 428 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 3: the left censorship, he was railing against big farmer and 429 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 3: mandatory COVID vaccines. 430 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 2: What looks like he's back to drinking the kool aid. 431 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 14: Now. 432 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 2: This next clip is delicious. 433 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 3: Watch here as the co founder of Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, 434 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 3: loses his mind when an interviewer seeks to correct his 435 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 3: claim that he's the sole founder of Wikipedia. 436 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 2: There's a tantrum incoming. 437 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 15: I'm Jimmy Wale's your Wikipedia? 438 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 2: You're the founder or co founder? Because I don't care. 439 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: That's the dumbest question in the world. Really, absolutely, there 440 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 2: seems to be a dispute. 441 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 15: There's no dispute. I don't care, So yeah, say what 442 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 15: you like, it doesn't matter. 443 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: Well, isn't that like when it comes to Wikipedia? 444 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: A problem? 445 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: You know what what what are the facts? 446 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 15: Yeah, well it's not a fact, it's an opinion. So 447 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 15: you can have whatever opinion you like. It doesn't matter. 448 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 2: But for you, you're the founder. 449 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 15: Can I just say again it doesn't matter. I've answered 450 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 15: your question four times. I mean what I'm done. I 451 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 15: wish you thanks. 452 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 4: What's going on? 453 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: It's stupid? 454 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 15: Don't ask me stupid questions? 455 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 2: Was that stupid? It was the first question. 456 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 3: That's so wacky that I want to believe it's satire. 457 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: But who can tell these day? Is what's SATURI? What's real? 458 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 4: Now? 459 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: Does something that sounds like it belongs in a sketch 460 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: comedy show? Here is the President of Venezuela, Nicholas Maduro, 461 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: breaking into song, singing John Lennon's Imagine as he talks 462 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 3: about rising US tensions of his schedule. 463 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 7: Right, I'll speople, What a beautiful song, he says. 464 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 2: He tells the young ones to look up the lyrics. 465 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: I mean, this is rich work from a brutal, wanna 466 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: be dictator. I'm no warmonger, but watching that it gets 467 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: me a hankering for some stealth bombers over Caracas. 468 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 2: But for the record, the lyrics of. 469 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 3: Imagine are not inspiration or they're stupid, they're innane. There 470 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: are teenage girl's ideas of profound I did look up 471 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 3: the lyrics just for Nicholas. Here's some Imagine there's no countries. 472 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 3: It isn't hard to do. No thank you, I don't 473 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,360 Speaker 3: want to imagine that. Imagine no possessions. I wonder if 474 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 3: you can no need for greed or hunger. I mean nice, 475 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: except John Lennon was worth around two hundred million dollars 476 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: when he was tragically murdered in nineteen eighty. Nineteen eighty, 477 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: that'd be like a billion dollars these days. Now to 478 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 3: the ongoing meltdown over Sydney Sweeney for refusing to apologize 479 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 3: for appearing in that wildly popular Genes commercial for American Eagle. 480 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: It would have been so easy for her just to say, wow, 481 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 5: that really spun out of control. 482 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 2: I didn't think about it. That obviously wasn't my intention. 483 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 3: Also, American Eagle, American Eagle needs to be accountable. 484 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 5: To me. 485 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 14: That's everything. It's a company. 486 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 5: The real courage, the real confidence is apologizing is saying 487 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 5: that I did something wrong. 488 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 14: That It's a lot. 489 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: Now, let's try to get to the bottom of Baron Gate. 490 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: People are obsessed with Baron Trump, and that obsession saw 491 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 3: all sorts of excitement when they thought he had given 492 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 3: Biden a mouthful on inauguration Day. Here is one of 493 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: the more popular theories of what he said when. 494 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: He leans into Biden. Here he says it's on. 495 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 8: Okay, And then. 496 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 5: When he goes up to Millenia, she says, try to 497 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 5: be nice, and he says okay, but she doesn't really 498 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 5: know what he had said to him, and then he 499 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 5: turns back and looks back at Biden. 500 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people love that theory because, after all, 501 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's DOJFBI had tried to put Baron's father in jail, 502 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 3: tried to put his brothers in jail, tried to bankrupt 503 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 3: the family, rated his mother's underwear drawer. But now we 504 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 3: have some clarity on what was really said, and sadly, 505 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 3: for some it's a lot more mundane and a lot 506 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 3: more polite than that narrative. Here is Baron's big brother 507 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: Eric setting the record straight. 508 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 16: They had all these like lip reading experts and they 509 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 16: just you know, and they're like, Baron just told Biden 510 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,719 Speaker 16: to go f himself. Like so one night I'm very 511 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 16: close to Baron. I love Baron Dedath Right. One night 512 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 16: I called Baron, I go, buddy, look what did you 513 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 16: actually say? And he goes, you know, it was something 514 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 16: so polite. I almost wouldn't even get it right, but like, 515 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 16: you know, congratulations and you know, best of luck to 516 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 16: you or something like that, something very respectful. 517 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 3: Let's bring in Sky and News contributor Kosher Gata Kosher. 518 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 3: We've got some heavy topics to cover in, including startling 519 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 3: revelations about Thomas Crooks, the young man who tried to 520 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: assassinate Donald Trump. I say, man, but apparently he identified 521 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 3: as They will get to that, but let's start with 522 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 3: something a little bit more frivolous, and we finally have 523 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 3: an answer on Baron Gate. 524 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 6: We do. 525 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 17: That was funny and just the dn age we live 526 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 17: in the Internet, people can do those things. He is 527 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 17: fascinating to a lot of people. Oh yeah, it's just 528 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 17: desperate to get more from him. But you know, he's 529 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 17: playing it cool, kind of like mother. It doesn't give too. 530 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: Much, that's it, And I think that's part of the 531 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 3: mystique with Baron. 532 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 2: There's not a great deal of him. 533 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 3: So people just know he's obviously very tall, freakishly tall, 534 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: and apparently it's super smart, not just academically but also political. 535 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: Now he was behind a lot of his dad's cast. 536 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: The podcast Strategy. 537 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 3: And a Pole, carried out earlier this year, found that 538 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 3: are whopping forty percent of Republicans would consider amending the 539 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,120 Speaker 3: US Constitution to lower the presidential age requirement so Baron 540 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 3: could run for president sooner. I didn't even realize there 541 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 3: is a thirty. 542 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: Five year old age limit. That's how popular is. 543 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 17: Yes, and AOC just a side note, has surpassa thirty 544 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 17: five age limits. 545 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 14: A lot of people are talking about that she might 546 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 14: be in contention. 547 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 17: He is very popular, but you know, as we said, 548 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 17: he's got different parents, very complimentary with very different parents. 549 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 17: So he's got great genes from what we can see obviously. 550 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 17: But he could go the way of his mother and 551 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 17: meanting that mystique and enigma for a long time, and 552 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 17: when he decides to open his mouth publicly, it'll carry 553 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 17: a lot of wheat. 554 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 14: Or he could go the way. 555 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 17: Of his father and put everything out there and make 556 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 17: a run for it. 557 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 14: He's very young, so I. 558 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: Wish I had the clip to play right now, But 559 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 3: I've seen a little clip of him talking where he's 560 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 3: being introduced to people, and he's very much in his 561 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 3: father's style in how he communicates with people, which was 562 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 3: fascinating to observe. Now we've learned now a great deal 563 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: more about Thomas Crooks after months of nothing. This is 564 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 3: the man who came a few millimeters from assassinating Donald 565 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 3: Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania. 566 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: His online accounts and. 567 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 3: Posts have finally been revealed by Tucker Carlson, who carried 568 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: out a forensic examination of his online footprint, including his 569 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 3: violent statements, and then we had a big release of 570 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: information by the FBI. The timing of the FBI release 571 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 3: was rather curious, kosher, But if we learned about Thomas. 572 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 17: Crooks, So this investigation that led by Talker, allegedly he's 573 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 17: a bay them as you said at the top, a furry, yeah, 574 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 17: and a furry, which nobody knew what that was by 575 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 17: and large until unfortunately Charlie Kirks situation hit the news, 576 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 17: and now we all know more about it if we 577 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 17: ever wanted to. So that's another thing in there. We 578 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 17: know he was also a very high IQ, as was 579 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 17: Charlie Kirk's assassid alleged assassin as well. These are like 580 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 17: straight A students, very high intelligence, so that's maybe an 581 00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 17: ingredient in that as well. And then they sort of 582 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 17: seem to just get captured by this sort of pornographic 583 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 17: fetish type culture on the internet. 584 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 14: Maybe they're very a little bit on the spectrum. 585 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 17: Potentially this is not me, you know, speculating, but if 586 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 17: you start to paint a picture, they get sucked into 587 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 17: that vortex and then get radicalized. 588 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 14: At least that's what we're seeing in these cases. 589 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 17: Nashville shooter, the Minneapolis school shooter, all of them. There's 590 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 17: this epidemic of trans people playing or transypathetic people playing 591 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 17: a role. And I have to think that the medicalization. 592 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 17: We don't know the details with him, but if you 593 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 17: start being the wrong hormones into somebody and all that, 594 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 17: we don't know what it's doing with their mind and how. 595 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 14: It's messing with it. 596 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 3: Well, with him, we don't have any suggestions yet that 597 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: he was on any sort of treatments or hormones or anything, 598 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 3: but the reports are that he did use they then 599 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 3: pronouns as you said, and was on a website known 600 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 3: for hosting pornographic furry material if you double ry google it. 601 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: We're not going to go into descriptions here because my god, wow, 602 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,959 Speaker 3: and yeah, Charlie Kirk's Alledged Killer was also involved in 603 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 3: fury culture. Is it clear now or do we have 604 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 3: any sort of a picture of what or who radicalized 605 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 3: Thomas Crooks? 606 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: Not much. 607 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 17: The internet analysis that folks AC Tucker and others have 608 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 17: done suggests he turned in twenty twenty. That's when he 609 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 17: took a turn, and before that he maybe even was 610 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 17: a little bit center to rate. 611 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 14: People think if he would have been very young. 612 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 17: At that age, so who knows how deep he was politically, 613 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 17: and then after twenty twenty just something happens. Again, it's 614 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 17: our speculation. We know nothing about how deeply he was 615 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 17: too that day theam thing. Was it just changing pronouns 616 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 17: or something deeper. But it's not a good day for 617 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 17: that the activism around that issue, of course, and I'd 618 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 17: say it's also not a great day for the FBI 619 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 17: just in general as an institution. 620 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 14: People are very frustrated. 621 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 17: Why is it taking a journalist coming out with these 622 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,239 Speaker 17: things to hear about it? 623 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 14: And more transparency please. 624 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, because people have been crying out for some transparency 625 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 3: and some further information on what happened in Butler. 626 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 2: There seem to be so many inconsistencies that the FBI 627 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: could have sorted out. 628 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 3: And when you don't give anybody any information, there's a 629 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 3: vacuum and all sorts of conspiracy theories arise. And then 630 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 3: within hours basically of Tucker Carlson unveiling all this information, 631 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 3: the FBI release a lot of. 632 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 17: That after as well, forced to do it, and sometimes, Okay, 633 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 17: the argument is that you don't want to contaminate the 634 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 17: jury pool or a prosecution that might be underway. 635 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 14: Maybe in this case he's dead so exactly. 636 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: I mean, the only thing I could think of was 637 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 3: if they are undertaking an investigation to if there wasn't 638 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 3: people who radicalized him, if it was paid or set 639 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: up to do this, if there was any sort of 640 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 3: complicity from anywhere. 641 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 2: Else, But we haven't had any news of that. 642 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: The Daily Mail reports you mentioned Crook's political opinions changing, 643 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 3: They report his views shifted dramatically left around early twenty twenty. 644 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: Crooks reportedly called for anti Trump supporters to conduct terrorism 645 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: style attacks against US government buildings, and he even outlined 646 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: wighs to sneak a bomb into a government building and 647 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: set it off before anyone can see you. So again, 648 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 3: you see some of this online material, some of the 649 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: things he was posting, and you wonder how he wasn't 650 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: visited by law enforcement earlier. 651 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 2: And this stuff is. 652 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 17: Extreme, yes, And that is actually another thing in a 653 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 17: lot of the cases. 654 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 14: In Charlie Kirkkei's too. 655 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 17: After the fact, you do see some chatter in these 656 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 17: discord chats or chat rooms or what have you. And again, 657 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 17: just if you look at the budget and the manpower 658 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 17: and everything else that is at the disposal of the 659 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 17: US government, with the FBI and every other agency, why 660 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 17: are they not catching these things? 661 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 14: And you know, maybe that's an unfair. 662 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 17: Expectation to put out there, but people are very unhappy 663 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 17: with it because it seems to keep happening and it 664 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 17: feels like we're always behind the eight ball. Also, in 665 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 17: twenty twenty, the FBI was completely directed by the administration 666 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 17: to go after a G six and like school boards 667 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 17: and all of that. So that was a waste of 668 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 17: time when you know, people were leaving for exactly. 669 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 3: We had school moms who wanted to get gender madness 670 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: out of the classroom. Being investigated. And then we've got 671 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 3: individuals like this posting how to guides on how to 672 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 3: blow up building and nothing and nothing. Now let's talk 673 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 3: about this feud between President Trump and Marjorie Taylor Green. Actually, 674 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 3: the President has a new name for her. 675 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 4: Her life is in danger. Who's that Hopey? 676 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 12: The other green? He said, Marjorie Trader Grin. 677 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 14: I don't think her life is in danger. 678 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 6: I don't think Frankly, I don't think anybody cares about her. 679 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: She's going on the view, she's going on CNN apologizing 680 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 3: God knows for what. Well, here is a clue to 681 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 3: what's behind all this tom foolery. 682 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 18: He didn't tell her not to run, But what she 683 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 18: didn't say was that he sent her a poll privately, discreetly, 684 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 18: and it had information in it, and it showed her 685 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 18: down twenty points to John Ossoff. And so, in politics, 686 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 18: when you want to send a message to someone that 687 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 18: you like or there has been an ally, you don't 688 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 18: embarrass them publicly. You privately send them information and show 689 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 18: them what the reality is. And so I think it's 690 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 18: true that he didn't tell her not to run, but 691 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 18: it's also true that he did her a big favor, 692 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 18: which is to show her information that a candidacy statewide 693 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 18: in Georgia for her would have been a disaster. 694 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 3: It gives a little bit more information, a little bit 695 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 3: more context. 696 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 2: How do you see this? 697 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,760 Speaker 17: I think some of it could be just that personal 698 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 17: political aspiration stuff like what Scott Jennings was alluding to. 699 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 17: Some of it is, I think substantive disagreements on policy. 700 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 17: It's unfortunate because generally they're in the same tent. It 701 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,920 Speaker 17: would be nice if we didn't have this firing squad 702 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 17: eriinally on the right, but you know that's part of 703 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 17: the process. The right likes to really battle ideas, and 704 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 17: so that's what happens. She breaks with trumpra has been 705 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 17: breaking with Trump on a few issues. One of the 706 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 17: Epstein files, release it already, she's been saying, and it 707 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 17: was one of two Republicans who signed on to that bill, 708 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 17: and now Trump in the last forty eight hours and said, yeah. 709 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 14: Let's release it. 710 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 2: So that's so she was right on that. 711 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 17: She was right on that, and I think she's closer 712 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 17: being a congress woman, She's maybe closer to the base 713 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 17: in her constituency, at least in Georgia. So she was 714 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 17: hearing that probably more loudly than Trump was. 715 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 14: I can assume the. 716 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 17: Other is Israel, where she's always had this view that frankly, 717 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,880 Speaker 17: more and more people are sharing. We've talked about it before, 718 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 17: that the US spends too much financial capital, political capital, 719 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 17: diplomatic capital on that, and she was expecting Trump to 720 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 17: not be as knee deep in it as he is. 721 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 17: Rightly or wrongly, it got handed to him, but that's 722 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 17: been a big fracture between to them and that. The 723 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 17: third is economics, where she feels he's not doing enough 724 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 17: to ease domestic economic wares and fleetion, healthcare class, all 725 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 17: of that, and she wants them to just focus on. 726 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: All of that. 727 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:16,160 Speaker 3: Is understandable because that does represent quite a significant segment 728 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,760 Speaker 3: of the megabase. But when she is going on CNN 729 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 3: and apologizing, yes, when we've watched the left celebrate Charlie 730 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 3: Kirk's murder and when they go electing an attorney general 731 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: in Virginia who wanted the children of Republicans murdered, and 732 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 3: they elect him and it wasn't for me. 733 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,760 Speaker 2: That was just left a very bad taste. 734 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 17: It was definitely off brown for her too. So maybe 735 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 17: it's because of the political aspirations, which she was trying 736 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 17: to appeal more to the moderates. I don't know, but 737 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 17: that one did not eat well in that name. Marjorie 738 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 17: TREEDA green will stick trum. 739 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 3: He's so good at nicknames. I mean it's almost an 740 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 3: obvious one. 741 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 14: But wow, Yeah, he's gonna stick. 742 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 2: Oh, it's going to stick. That's the thing. 743 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 3: Even if they make up that is already made nick 744 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: name for anybody who wants to have a go at her. 745 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:02,879 Speaker 19: Now. 746 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:07,720 Speaker 3: The United Nations Security Council voted to adopt President Trump's 747 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 3: peace still earlier today and establish an international force to 748 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 3: govern and secure the Gaza Strip. Thirteen countries on the 749 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 3: Security Council supported the plan. Two Russia and China abstained, 750 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: but Kosher. They did not exercise their veto power. That's significant. 751 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 17: Yes, you know, you could say it's a symbolic gesture 752 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 17: of what they did because they can register their criticism. 753 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 17: They said the deal is too ambiguous, it's going to 754 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 17: end up favoring the US, which for the US broker 755 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 17: it's fair enough, and a few other criticisms that they 756 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 17: have on the substance of it without retoing because they 757 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 17: didn't want to throw a ranch into this thing that 758 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 17: finally got to a police after a long our journey 759 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 17: of peace and hopefully last. Also, it's interesting to note 760 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,879 Speaker 17: that they haven't really used their veto power too much 761 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 17: on this issue. I was looking it up only five 762 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 17: times between the two of them, and the US has 763 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 17: used it fifty times since the thing broke out the 764 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 17: conflict under both administrations, which goes back to that point 765 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 17: of how much diplomatic capital the US has used in 766 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 17: this conflict, and those two Russian China kind of want 767 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 17: to keep it at arm's length, be opportunistic, be more pragmatic, 768 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,360 Speaker 17: I guess, in a way that serves their national interests 769 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 17: without taking a strong position on either side. 770 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,240 Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about Poland. 771 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 3: Polish Prime Minister Donald Task has described an explosion on 772 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: the country's rail network near the Ukraine border as an 773 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 3: unprecedented act of sabotage and Russia is the leading suspect there. 774 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 17: Kosher yes, So to me, this is another reminder that 775 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 17: that war rages on. We certainly didn't wrap it up 776 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 17: in twenty four hours as I think was to be 777 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 17: put out there during the campaign, and it's a very 778 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 17: complex war. 779 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 14: It's over, it's covert. 780 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 17: There's potential sabotage, false flags, like all sorts of things happening, 781 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 17: multi dimensional warfare. It reminded me of the nord Stream 782 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 17: pipeline blow and we still don't conclusively know who was 783 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 17: behind that. 784 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 14: There are different theories. Was it the West? Was it Russ? 785 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 17: Sure there is an actually global consensus on that. And 786 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 17: so this is another one that reminded me of that. 787 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 3: Had a good idea with that one. I've got to say, 788 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 3: I've got a suggestion here. Maybe Poland can unleash their 789 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 3: new Trump loving president Carol Norocki to find the culprits. 790 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: Look how fit he is. That's incredible. That's the Polish president. 791 00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 14: We were in a new era. 792 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,720 Speaker 17: We want to see strong leaders, rhetorically strong, physically strong. 793 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 14: So he's right on point. 794 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 2: He is one point. 795 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 3: Kosher Gator, thank you so much for your still to come. 796 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:45,440 Speaker 3: Ariana Grande's weird antics with her Wicked co star Alex Stein. 797 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 2: Will be here after the break. 798 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 3: Welcome back now to the peculiar behavior of Ariana Grande 799 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 3: and Cynthia Arrivo during their latest Wicked promotional to us. 800 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 14: Do you have a ressearch for the clear fans who 801 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,719 Speaker 14: are watching this, and we love you. 802 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 2: We love you, we love you, we love you, we 803 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 2: love you, we love you. 804 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 20: In aunts, it's always been a queer place, a safe place. 805 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 2: Look for every different color of barenbo where everybody. Can 806 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 2: you read the Olt Frank Bomb books, It's the truth. 807 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 2: You're safe on us. We love you so much. The 808 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: gayer the better, the gaya the better. 809 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 3: Okay, and watch this reaction when Mark Platt enthusiastically shakes 810 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,760 Speaker 3: Arian his hand during an interview. 811 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 2: The carry on is too much popular? Can you believe 812 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,320 Speaker 2: that we're doing popular? That it's going to be so great? 813 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 6: That joy he wanted to infuse in every frame, so 814 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 6: that when you've experienced the film with all the tears 815 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 6: and everything else, you feel the joy in every single prime. 816 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 6: So I wanted to say that on this too. 817 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 2: Much and look at this absurdity. 818 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:00,879 Speaker 3: This clip went viral and recent and days, but it's 819 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 3: actually from last year. Let me tell you one thing. 820 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 3: That necklace did not need to be adjusted. 821 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 20: A beautiful sister ship that continues to grow and grow 822 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 20: even through this press store. Something's bothering her. She's going 823 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 20: to fix something. I know she's getting the fixing it. 824 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 20: That's in the the oh thank. 825 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,640 Speaker 2: You, biggest pinch me moment for each of you on 826 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 2: the set. 827 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 15: Was it the day you arrived on the set or 828 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 15: some special moment that happened that. 829 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 2: Necklace did not need fixing? 830 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 4: You know. 831 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 2: The only good thing. 832 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 3: About their bizarre antiques are all the parodies. It hasn't inspired, 833 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:36,840 Speaker 3: and I've got to say, this is one of my faves. 834 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 11: What we chose to do with the role, with the 835 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,399 Speaker 11: roles was something that I think that should be study. 836 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 20: Where are you from? 837 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 14: Dodn'ton? 838 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 12: Ohio? 839 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:53,200 Speaker 13: Oh my god, Oh my god, Oh my god. 840 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 14: Did I say something wrong? 841 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 20: He's been in honor to stand by Cynthia doing this 842 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 20: hard time. 843 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 14: I mean her battling cancer. 844 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,280 Speaker 11: I'm just bold. 845 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 14: Say I'm actually hungry. 846 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 4: She's hungry. 847 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 10: This is. 848 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 2: Well come back. 849 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 3: What I mean now is comedian and host of Mind 850 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 3: of Stein, Alex Stein. Alex What is happening with these 851 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 3: two again? Help me understand what I'm looking at. 852 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 19: No, you're exactly right. 853 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 12: The fact that she was like just you know, kind 854 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 12: of manipulating that necklace in kind of a sexual way. 855 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 12: I wouldn't be surprised if they have some sort of 856 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 12: romance going on. I mean they're talking about gay this 857 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 12: gay that. I mean, maybe they're gay, and if they are, 858 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,879 Speaker 12: that's cool, but it just seems like there's more than 859 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 12: just co stars in a movie for asking me. 860 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 3: It's just they're just so weirdly excited about things that 861 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 3: shouldn't be exciting, and just there is just too much. 862 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 3: There's just too much. There's too much that seems inauthentic. 863 00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 864 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 3: The change in Ariana concerns me. She seems so for 865 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 3: fragile physically. But let's talk about the UFC. I know 866 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 3: you love your sport, and it was an eventful UFC 867 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 3: three to two two. There was a massive brawl in 868 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 3: the crowd and the nights big winner is Makachev wants 869 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,000 Speaker 3: to defend his title at the White House. 870 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 16: When would you like to defend this new world title again? 871 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 19: Let's go open their white Coach, I'm. 872 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: Coming, Alex. 873 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,879 Speaker 3: Tell me about this plan to have the UFC at 874 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:35,720 Speaker 3: the White House. 875 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 2: It's going to be wild and I want to be there. 876 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to be invited as well. 877 00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 12: But you know, I think the real story when we 878 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,919 Speaker 12: talk about this is a lot of people were right. 879 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 12: It's sad when mom Donnie won in New York that 880 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 12: Islam would be taking over, and what happens the week after, 881 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 12: Islam just to go over in New York City. So, 882 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 12: I mean, I guess I love it all right. I 883 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 12: mean I can't I can't debate them. They're right. 884 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,160 Speaker 3: Oh, And it's interesting because Dana White was asked about 885 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 3: why Islam was so popular. 886 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 2: Normally the underdog gets a bit of love. 887 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 3: When they have the media events and the fan events 888 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,800 Speaker 3: more importantly, and he's like, well, New York's different these days. 889 00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, he is a huge star, despite the fact 890 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,960 Speaker 3: that the Dakhstan is a pretty devout Muslims, aren't they 891 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 3: They don't really buy into the Western lifestyle, but they're 892 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,000 Speaker 3: huge stars in the US. 893 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,560 Speaker 2: Now, you were recently box popped yourself. 894 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 3: You were on the other side of the questioning, and 895 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 3: you did not disappoint. 896 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 14: Do you think that this person is a patriot or 897 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,920 Speaker 14: a trader? 898 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 19: He is an evil person. Barack Obama dropped to Jroones 899 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 19: strike every twenty minutes for eight years. He's killed millions 900 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 19: of Muslim people. He's killed Jewish people. He's been responsible 901 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 19: for the deaths of a lot of people. He's a 902 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,840 Speaker 19: war criminal. From Barack Obama probably belongs in jail. 903 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 3: Oh, dear Alex, I had to edit out most of 904 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,320 Speaker 3: that answer. 905 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 2: But tell us what you really think. I think you're 906 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:01,640 Speaker 2: being a little. 907 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,400 Speaker 3: Bit harsh on President Obama. Do you really want to 908 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:05,200 Speaker 3: see him in Chile? 909 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 12: Well, you know, honestly, Barack Obama, I got to give 910 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 12: him a little credit. He's a great orator, he's a 911 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 12: great speaker. He's very smooth, and I would be lying 912 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 12: if when I was in two thousand and eight in college, 913 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 12: when he won, I thought, man, this is so cool. 914 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,400 Speaker 12: We have like a black president. Everythings black people are 915 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:22,800 Speaker 12: cool in America. People want to act like it's the 916 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 12: most racist country. 917 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 4: That's not true. 918 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,160 Speaker 12: But when he got into office, Barack Obama, I think 919 00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 12: his biggest complaint is that he didn't help the black community. 920 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, he. 921 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 12: Turned his back on the black community. And you hear 922 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,879 Speaker 12: that oftentimes from black Americans. So I just think it's 923 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 12: the fraudulent, you know, aspect to Barack Obama. Yes, he's likable, 924 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 12: Yes he's smooth, but I just feel like there's so 925 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 12: many skeleton in his closet. And then you see his 926 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:49,520 Speaker 12: wife Michelle go on and she recently. I'm sure you 927 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 12: saw where she said that black women don't like to 928 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 12: swim because it messes up their hair. But if I 929 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 12: said that, I would get canceled. So it's just crazy. 930 00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 12: The Obama's the stuff they get away with. I do 931 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,239 Speaker 12: think he's probably committed a lot of war crimes, but 932 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,319 Speaker 12: now you know our president is allowed to do that. 933 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,480 Speaker 3: Well, I think we might find out a further investigation 934 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 3: what role he may have played in the We already 935 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 3: know some of the role he played in that whole 936 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 3: Russian collusion conspiracy hoax are but yeah, there's a lot 937 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 3: of things there that I think are going to damage 938 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,200 Speaker 3: his Yeah, they're going to damage him down the track. 939 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680 Speaker 3: I think I'm just being very careful in what I 940 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 3: say because I do not want to be sued. You 941 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,799 Speaker 3: mentioned Michelle Obama, and it's been fascinating watching her in 942 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 3: recent months because she's been on every podcast. 943 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,280 Speaker 2: It seems she's got her own podcast, She's. 944 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,080 Speaker 3: Done a book to us, so so many interviews, but 945 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 3: so much of what she says is. 946 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 2: Complaining. 947 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,840 Speaker 3: She's just whining about everything from her glam team at 948 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 3: the Wide House having to pay for a row food, 949 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 3: a lot of complaints about Barack. He seems to be 950 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 3: getting on her nerves the way he chooses food. She 951 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 3: talked about having ten year period where your marriage isn't good. 952 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 2: So I don't know. She does not seem like a 953 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 2: happy woman. 954 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,839 Speaker 3: She doesn't seem to be at all grateful for the 955 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,800 Speaker 3: time she spent as first Lady. 956 00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,319 Speaker 12: Well, I don't want to get in any illegal trouble either, 957 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 12: but if I was competing for Barack Obama's love with 958 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,200 Speaker 12: Jennifer Anderson, I'd be a little nervous too. I mean, Jennifer, 959 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 12: you've heard those rumors and I don't know if they're 960 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 12: sure or not. But the Rachel haircuts say there no 961 00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,120 Speaker 12: no on Yeah, well let's just say they're not. But 962 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 12: you know, that is obviously a rumor. And I'm joking 963 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 12: when I say this. But the real thing is, I 964 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,040 Speaker 12: do think there's trouble in Paradise for Barack and Michelle. 965 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,799 Speaker 12: And this is the problem with the Michelle is that 966 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,359 Speaker 12: she has to follow the company line and always play 967 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,720 Speaker 12: a victim. Even if you were the first black first 968 00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 12: lady in the world, somehow you still have to find 969 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 12: a reason to, you know, to complain about America when 970 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,400 Speaker 12: in reality, America's the greatest country on earth in my opinion, 971 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 12: and it's only helped her become this success as she 972 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 12: is today. 973 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 18: So I don't like all the American here. 974 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 2: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time tonight, 975 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,359 Speaker 2: and that's all the time we have. Newsnight is up 976 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:10,720 Speaker 2: next