Speaker 1: Welcome to the Code NRL Show. I'm Dave Rickyo. As always,
Speaker 1: Brent Reid and Tyson Jackson. Hang on a second, there
Speaker 1: is one burning topic we need to dissect and listen issue.
Speaker 2: This is important.
Speaker 1: Because it's travel time for the journals to Las Vegas
Speaker 1: and we're sitting here debating. Well, Ready and Tyson are
Speaker 1: debating whether to take a bum bag or not.
Speaker 3: Now, No, I bought a what I thought was a
Speaker 3: bum bag. This makes sense, and it turns out it
Speaker 3: was a fanny pack. Now I don't know the difference, right, so,
Speaker 3: but apparently I bought the wrong order. I bought a
Speaker 3: funny pack.
Speaker 4: You can still wear the fanny pack same, It can
Speaker 4: be used the same way. Well, look, yeah, the bum
Speaker 4: bag that I wear you could probably fit.
Speaker 3: You've got some Louis Vauton or something, bendy. Sorry, wine's
Speaker 3: a waterfly something. But apparently it's I don't know. It
Speaker 3: says it's a fanny pack, and apparently that's different to
Speaker 3: a bum bag. I didn't know that. I thought that they're.
Speaker 1: Highly polarizing bum bag fanny packs whatever. They No, I
Speaker 1: haven't used one.
Speaker 4: I'd lend your mind, I wouldn't you wouldn't. I wouldn't
Speaker 4: lend him. I wouldn't lend you. I'd lend Dave. I'm
Speaker 4: going to be here, you know, I don't know where.
Speaker 2: Where does Where?
Speaker 1: Does Fendy rate compared to Gucci Louis for where's the rankings?
Speaker 4: I would say they're all up in the same I'd
Speaker 4: say Louis Vatan is probably number one, right. I chose
Speaker 4: Fendy because it's real weather. A lot of them are
Speaker 4: canvas bags.
Speaker 5: Where do your rate?
Speaker 3: Water? Waterfly?
Speaker 4: I hadn't heard a water fly two minutes when you
Speaker 4: mentioned it.
Speaker 3: Your son, I'm very dubious about the origins of yours.
Speaker 3: I suspect that because well, I was in Thailand last year, Dave.
Speaker 3: And you can get Louis.
Speaker 5: Forton and bags. Yeah, it costs nothing difference.
Speaker 4: The leathers too stiff and Lewis.
Speaker 3: Vietnam.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Come across the.
Speaker 1: Comment in the in the comments section below, YouTube and
Speaker 1: on co Sports, tell us if you're traveled, yes to
Speaker 1: a bumbag or fanning pack?
Speaker 2: No? Simple yes or no?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I'm a no these two boys. Yes, let's rip into it, guys.
Speaker 1: Eligibility is the story of the week as far as
Speaker 1: the state of origin is concerned. It's a significant change
Speaker 1: to the fabric of the interstate.
Speaker 2: Match New South Walles Queensland.
Speaker 1: Now, I think it's important for viewers and listeners out
Speaker 1: there to understand. Ultimately, this is why I do support it.
Speaker 1: The main rule change hasn't changed, and that is you
Speaker 1: need to have played your first game in Australia by
Speaker 1: the age of thirteen, and that will be bornn We'll
Speaker 1: be born that's right in New South Wales.
Speaker 3: It will be the son of an Origin player.
Speaker 2: The key point is age of thirty got to be difficult.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 1: Of course there's other dynamics to it, but the key
Speaker 1: one is there. You need to have played your first
Speaker 1: game by the age of thirteen.
Speaker 3: You need to have some connection.
Speaker 1: That's right, and I don't think we're going to get
Speaker 1: a sim influx of Pacific Island players suddenly playing Origin.
Speaker 1: And a case is Ronaldo Milatalu, who played as far
Speaker 1: as far as he concerned, he feels like he's a Queenslander,
Speaker 1: but unfortunately he only started playing his footy in Queensland
Speaker 1: at the age of thirteen and seven months, so he
Speaker 1: misses the cut.
Speaker 2: And he's still ineligible and still ineligible. How do we
Speaker 2: see it.
Speaker 3: I think it's the only option that had had when
Speaker 3: they decided they're going to review the state of origin rules,
Speaker 3: they had two options. They go shut it down or
Speaker 3: throw it wide open to anyone who was eligible under
Speaker 3: that standards you've outlined day because we already had guys
Speaker 3: playing origin, playing for Samoa, for Tonga, playing for fig
Speaker 3: So it wasn't really fair that guys playing for England
Speaker 3: New Zealand when it wasn't fair that Victor Radley couldn't
Speaker 3: play origin for New Said Wales. It wasn't fair that
Speaker 3: Adam Vanile Blake couldn't play origin for New Said Wales
Speaker 3: because he played one Test for New Zealand seven years
Speaker 3: ago or something. So I think they've made the right decision.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna be a huge impact. I
Speaker 3: think you'll see a handful of guys, maybe two to three,
Speaker 3: but are now eligible to play for queens And you said,
Speaker 3: well Ian Britain, Britain, the corp probably gets to start
Speaker 3: for Queensland. For Noila Blake playing for New Said Wells.
Speaker 3: Time may have passed Victor Radley by I reckon he
Speaker 3: might have missed his chance. I think it may impact
Speaker 3: two three players. Max, I'm happy with it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I think the rule change is a good thing.
Speaker 4: I think maybe this year and next year it's going
Speaker 4: to look a bit funny to some of us seeing
Speaker 4: like Adam fanil Blake, for example, a guy that we
Speaker 4: have known isn't eligible for a long time to start
Speaker 4: to play. But in ten years time, it's the only
Speaker 4: way that you keep Origin going because, like I said
Speaker 4: the other day, there's fifty one percent I think of
Speaker 4: the NFL's Polynesian right, So if that's such a large percentage,
Speaker 4: you're going to get more players.
Speaker 5: I want to play for New Zealand. I want to
Speaker 5: do those things.
Speaker 4: So if you keep shutting off those rules, you're shutting
Speaker 4: off talent, and that means Origin is going to dilute, dilute, dilute,
Speaker 4: dilute until the game's not the stand in, not the
Speaker 4: pinnacle as it is now in a couple of years time.
Speaker 3: I would say. The other thing, Dave, is that Australian
Speaker 3: team that went to England at the end of last year.
Speaker 3: If you look at that Australian team again, this rule
Speaker 3: may have impacted, so there might have been two or
Speaker 3: three blokes in that team who are eligible eligible to
Speaker 3: play for New Zealand or another country. The rest of
Speaker 3: them were only eligible for Australia. So I don't people
Speaker 3: are saying it on the road, the Green and Goal,
Speaker 3: the Green and Gold. I don't think it will. The
Speaker 3: mining concern for Adam vanil Blake is he's going to
Speaker 3: play for and lose a series.
Speaker 1: I feel a bit so Okay, okay, you've had your
Speaker 1: little jab which is stock standard. However you've you've admitted
Speaker 1: that he walks into these Blues front. So it's Adam
Speaker 1: vanil Blake and paint arts up front. Mitch Barnett, you
Speaker 1: would think it's right in the discussion MAXI King played
Speaker 1: his role for the Blues last year and the other
Speaker 1: one's big stuff. I know you to come on and
Speaker 1: it's a much stronger Spencer Spencer, Yeah, yeah, use your
Speaker 1: front right for the Blues.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think starting it's a no brainer. You have.
Speaker 4: I would go hass for Nolla Blake and then probably
Speaker 4: well Cam Murray's back in the mix as well, so
Speaker 4: you'd have one of those as you Cam Murray, I have.
Speaker 4: You have to have Spencer on the bench. I think
Speaker 4: he's a specialized bench front roller and it's very it's
Speaker 4: very crucial in an Origin game to come on and
Speaker 4: bring that extra hit. But one of them someone misses
Speaker 4: out right, and the inclusion of Adam Vanilla Blake mid
Speaker 4: someone misses out.
Speaker 5: You saw.
Speaker 4: Stefano last year played well but didn't get that many minutes.
Speaker 4: Max King didn't get many minutes in the de Cider.
Speaker 4: Then you've got other front rollers that are going to
Speaker 4: come out. Mitch Barnett, Terror may came close last year.
Speaker 4: They'll be bolts this year as well. So it's someone's
Speaker 4: going to miss. Like, there's gonna be someone that misses out,
Speaker 4: which is then going to cause more issues around Origin.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Brittney kr Up.
Speaker 1: Does he start in the back row for Coinsland or
Speaker 1: was Kirk Caple and Ruben Cotter in Game three last year.
Speaker 3: Of the he necessary starts. I think he's in the
Speaker 3: nineteen because there's nineteen man squads here wrong with the
Speaker 3: extended bents, so I think there's a place for him
Speaker 3: the ninety man squad. Definitely Britain the court.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, guys.
Speaker 1: As long as this season goes, we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: the Broncos and paint Ass, and whether this departure at
Speaker 1: the end of this season to South Sydney will have
Speaker 1: a major impact and what ramifications it'll have on the Bronx.
Speaker 1: I can't run away from the fact that if you
Speaker 1: take out the world's best front rower from your front
Speaker 1: front row, it's going to have a significant impact. And
Speaker 1: I'll be starting I'll be fascinated to see how the
Speaker 1: Broncos respond, both maybe from a recruitment point of view
Speaker 1: or internally depth wise on who they promote up. They've
Speaker 1: got some talented front rowers, but ready, I think this
Speaker 1: will hurt them big time.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you're right, Daugh, you lose a goal
Speaker 3: of pay as. It's going to have an impact, But
Speaker 3: it's a production line up there and may not be
Speaker 3: a guy there there right now, you go, he's logical.
Speaker 5: Actually he is.
Speaker 3: Zavier Wilson's waiting in the wings, and really he's a
Speaker 3: really good football, great player. He's not paint ass. No
Speaker 3: one's paint us. They're not going to go out and
Speaker 3: get another paint ass because he's a once in a
Speaker 3: generation footballer, right, He's sort of a break the mold guy.
Speaker 3: So they're not going to directly replace him, But I
Speaker 3: think they've got enough around him that maybe they can
Speaker 3: compensate in some way. I mean, I still think you
Speaker 3: look at that spine moving forward, Reece, you got Reece Lightning,
Speaker 3: Reee Walsh. I argue with the best player in the
Speaker 3: game at the moment, Well, Nathan's the best player in
Speaker 3: the game. I agree with the second best player in
Speaker 3: the game at the moment. You still got as Roman.
Speaker 3: Long term, You've got Jonah Pezzant coming. There's spine. They've
Speaker 3: got Blake Mozon in the system to play hooker long term.
Speaker 3: The spine. I always look at him, spine, spines when
Speaker 3: I look at teams and whether they're contenders, and that
Speaker 3: spine is in place and going to be in place
Speaker 3: for a few years yet. So yes, House is a
Speaker 3: huge loss. He leaves a huge hole, but it's not
Speaker 3: a hole they can't feel that. You're not going to
Speaker 3: directly fill it with another front row. Yeah, who matches
Speaker 3: what pain does. But you can fill it in other
Speaker 3: wise Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't. You can't argue with the spine argument.
Speaker 4: The spine for the next five years will probably be
Speaker 4: up there the top top five best spines.
Speaker 5: In the game.
Speaker 4: My issue is the Spine's going to be at its
Speaker 4: best with a forward pack that's going forward and Pay
Speaker 4: does so much work for that team to set that platform.
Speaker 4: It's one of those things, right, no matter who you've
Speaker 4: got in that production, Like everyone's admitted, they're not pain Harsh, right,
Speaker 4: Painhash sets the standard not only with his carrieres and
Speaker 4: his defense, but also his leadership. That's a massive loss
Speaker 4: and I think if you're the Broncos, you have to
Speaker 4: bring someone in. And my biggest concern is Painhuss is
Speaker 4: gone in twelve months time and there is not a
Speaker 4: single player on the market that I would be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I need.
Speaker 5: Him into it.
Speaker 3: They've got enough money there to go and look, you're
Speaker 3: not going to be able to They've got.
Speaker 5: Pains money though they've got to upgrade those guys.
Speaker 3: Well, they've got other guys so that I think. I
Speaker 3: think the cap was recently tight, right. They spent that
Speaker 3: night on Pain would have impacted them in other areas,
Speaker 3: So you know, I think they'll use that money money
Speaker 3: to shore up the rest of the team and it
Speaker 3: won't be like one point one million dollars for Pay.
Speaker 3: They're going to go get a spend one point one
Speaker 3: million dollars on the front raw because you're right, there's
Speaker 3: no one out, so they use that money in other areas.
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 4: Do you think do you think that they can still
Speaker 4: be contenders just by upgrading what they have if they
Speaker 4: lose pain Halss twelve months time?
Speaker 2: Not content? Can they win premiership?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 4: But that's what I mean right, They're going to be
Speaker 4: in that that Grand Final pitchure every year if they
Speaker 4: lose pain Haus and just rely on what else they have.
Speaker 5: Well, they've also got an aging Russell I think.
Speaker 3: Whileever they got Walsh, as I said, ma'am and pant,
Speaker 3: they're going to contempt.
Speaker 2: That's great, that's a wonderful thing. I've still got Wilson
Speaker 2: still a spine and needs a power pack to go behind.
Speaker 3: That's still a Carrigan Willison coming through. Right. They've still
Speaker 3: got a decent forward pack.
Speaker 2: Decent, yeah, decent.
Speaker 3: But that forward packs just got a matt match for
Speaker 3: opposition if they If if that hoot forward pack holds
Speaker 3: its own, the spine in the back line will go
Speaker 3: to work.
Speaker 4: But if everyone else, if everyone else, if every other
Speaker 4: club keeps recruiting keeps bringing players in, they keep getting better.
Speaker 4: The Broncos if they do not recruit and they just
Speaker 4: stick with the guys they have, they're going to stay
Speaker 4: around that benchmark that they're already at. Other clubs are
Speaker 4: going to climb in the camp. But clubs get better
Speaker 4: every year.
Speaker 3: You can't stay got better in the last couple of years,
Speaker 3: gone backwards the last.
Speaker 4: Every club gets better every year. It's not every it's
Speaker 4: not every club. The clubs that will get better and
Speaker 4: the Broncos will stay where they.
Speaker 3: Don't tell me get better next year.
Speaker 5: When I lose, you can ask me if the Roosters
Speaker 5: are going to get better.
Speaker 3: Clubund When you're at the top, it's hard to stay
Speaker 3: there because the salary cap bites. Right, So they're in
Speaker 3: a market where they're at the right now, they're at
Speaker 3: the very top. Right, they're at the apex of rugby league.
Speaker 3: And as we're seen with Penrith, right, Penrith, remarkable They
Speaker 3: want to boy, isn't it ridiculous? For five years? What
Speaker 3: was it four or five? I can't remember, I've forgotten four. Right,
Speaker 3: So and now you see the scats biding on them. Well,
Speaker 3: it's going to buy Brisbane as well because they want
Speaker 3: to camp, so that's what they're gonna do. But but
Speaker 3: with that spine and the investment that made that spine,
Speaker 3: they're still going to contend.
Speaker 4: They so they lose, they lose pain this year. Reynolds
Speaker 4: probably Ben Hunt, so that's spy, that's their best front
Speaker 4: right and then two members of their SPA that's going
Speaker 4: to take.
Speaker 1: Time three out of a game player and Jonah's Rene
Speaker 1: he's slowing down.
Speaker 2: You can see.
Speaker 4: I think is going to be I think Jon's gonna
Speaker 4: be great. He's unproved. He's unproven at the stage yet.
Speaker 3: Blake Mosa, Yeah, they are unproven, but there's a lot
Speaker 3: of talent. They're gonna be really good footballers.
Speaker 4: How long do they take that they had Goody had
Speaker 4: good talent in twenty twenty when they really struggle.
Speaker 5: They have good talent all those years that they really
Speaker 5: last year, yeah last year, But they're going to lose
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 4: They're going to lose those guys that are part of
Speaker 4: that team, but they're replacing them with good footballers.
Speaker 3: But you except for the exception, but to Willison continues
Speaker 3: his ascendancy, he's going to be an elite front rower.
Speaker 3: So yeah, you're on my phone's going now. Look people are.
Speaker 5: Upset, probably made.
Speaker 2: What else?
Speaker 3: What else? Twenty twenty seven. I would argue the Jonah
Speaker 3: Peasant will have gone past.
Speaker 4: And we're talking about sustaining as you can't just put
Speaker 4: someone in and think it's just going to stay the same.
Speaker 5: Why when has that happened?
Speaker 3: Penrith Hello lost to Rome lost Steve Crichton was always
Speaker 3: the response is theresman's there.
Speaker 4: They're losing their most two of their most experienced players
Speaker 4: and the hard and soul of their forward pack.
Speaker 3: I agree with you on the forward pack. I'm saying
Speaker 3: Peasant for Renner, give me that swap every day of
Speaker 3: the week because around thirty five, thirty six and the
Speaker 3: coming to the end of his career, that's a good
Speaker 3: the way they're doing it right now with Peasant coming
Speaker 3: in for realms brilliant succession plan fellas.
Speaker 1: Last night, Brent Reid consumed close to four to five
Speaker 1: hot dogs at a It was an exclusive Super Coach
Speaker 1: event run by Code Sports, Daily Telegraph and all Super
Speaker 1: Coach fans were invited to Alion Stadium.
Speaker 3: Hot Dogs Dave very much.
Speaker 1: You went completely you went completely over the top. You
Speaker 1: the you should have stopped this. Fergus should have stopped standing.
Speaker 2: You should have stopped at four hot dogs only had
Speaker 2: three days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, but they were very good on top because.
Speaker 2: I don't need onions.
Speaker 3: I had onions on top the tomato sauce.
Speaker 2: But Mustard leve a comment? Come with me ya or
Speaker 2: ny onions.
Speaker 1: At the event, we had quite a vocal Paramatta fan
Speaker 1: in the crowd.
Speaker 5: There are a few. There are a few.
Speaker 2: And what I'm what I'm.
Speaker 1: Noticing as we get clo and closer to this season
Speaker 1: is fans are starting to climb the walls. They want
Speaker 1: to know how their team's going to go. And a
Speaker 1: lot of Blue and Gold fans are really both excited
Speaker 1: and optimistic, aren't they optimistics? Another YEP point of view,
Speaker 1: Forty years has been since they've won their last premiership,
Speaker 1: and they don't need reminding was even born.
Speaker 5: It's almost double the time that I've been alive.
Speaker 3: What about that?
Speaker 1: I see improvement? I can't put them in my top eight.
Speaker 1: I see improvement with Moses and pez whatever, Mitch Moses.
Speaker 1: It's similar to the nots and clear effect well mitches
Speaker 1: on the field, power of chance.
Speaker 2: But they're outside my eight Fellas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have him in that log jam.
Speaker 4: I've said, I've said multiple times this preseason the competition
Speaker 4: is going to be closer than it's ever been pretty
Speaker 4: much from six to you know, thirteen fourteen, there's that
Speaker 4: log jam of teams that could slot in, teams that
Speaker 4: might not slid in. I just have them in there.
Speaker 4: And if I have to pick that they're just missing out,
Speaker 4: they're probably around that nine to eleventh spot.
Speaker 1: I suppose what's holding me back is there just there.
Speaker 1: There's some talent there, no doubt, but probably there's striking
Speaker 1: the outside backs. I love you Youngie at the back,
Speaker 1: very good, but it's the depth in the outside backs
Speaker 1: and that genuine stroke. Maybe it's maybe I have this
Speaker 1: point of view due to the fact that Zach Limax
Speaker 1: has left the club, but that's probably what's holding I.
Speaker 3: Look at the spine, Dave. I always look at team's
Speaker 3: spine right when I determine whether they're contenders Top eight contenders.
Speaker 3: That spine a peasant Moses Riley Smith's last talented silver
Speaker 3: it's very good spine. Yeah, so I think they'll a
Speaker 3: bit like you guys. I think they'll be there and thereabouts.
Speaker 3: They might scrape into the eight. They come whin the
Speaker 3: com right, But I think they can if Mitch you're right,
Speaker 3: if Mitch stays fit has a good year, I'll tell you,
Speaker 3: if Mitch stays fit has a good year, he'll probably
Speaker 3: win the Dali m and maybe they'll make the top eight.
Speaker 3: I think there are a chance, but it relies on Mitch.
Speaker 3: When the record with without Mitch's remarkable.
Speaker 2: Chalk and choose.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that what's a conversation what's a
Speaker 1: past mark for the years?
Speaker 4: I think considering where they got to a couple of
Speaker 4: years ago, anything building off what they did last year
Speaker 4: where they improved is good. I would say if they're
Speaker 4: in the conversation to make the top eight, if everything
Speaker 4: goes all, I see it going and it being as
Speaker 4: close as a past mark. But for them internally, for
Speaker 4: any club internally, a past mark needs to be a
Speaker 4: final spot. If you don't make the final, there's obviously
Speaker 4: deficiencies there. And like you mentioned, Dave, that there are
Speaker 4: deficiencies in that in that squad, you know they're outside backs.
Speaker 4: You can't confidently say who's going to be their outside back.
Speaker 4: In their outside backs, you know from Jersey number.
Speaker 1: Five to probably Fox probably Foxy Fox Fox is a
Speaker 1: lot and Isaiah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I think top it's past mark for them.
Speaker 2: I think it has to be. I think anything less
Speaker 2: than tops.
Speaker 3: As you said, a lot of optimism around them. Jason
Speaker 3: Rolls been a greater point, done a really good job,
Speaker 3: and Pezant going there to play six is a great
Speaker 3: signing for them, even though it's only twelve months. So
Speaker 3: I think a past mark is top eight. I don't
Speaker 3: think they'll be there. Yeah, I'm not saying I'm not
Speaker 3: saying by that that I think the season will be
Speaker 3: a failure either, because I think, as you said, if
Speaker 3: they make improvements, I'm happy to give them a past mark.
Speaker 3: But I think for them, they think they can make
Speaker 3: the top eight.
Speaker 4: Even Mitchell Moses in it, like with the caliber play
Speaker 4: he is, you almost give them, give them a chance
Speaker 4: no matter who's around.
Speaker 3: They've got to be in the mix. Well, they've got
Speaker 3: to get to the back end of the year and
Speaker 3: be in the mix of the top eight.
Speaker 4: And then the young guys look really good the other
Speaker 4: week as well, in that first trial against the Sharks,
Speaker 4: So there's optimism there around their juniors and then who's coming.
Speaker 3: Through what do you got them date? What do you
Speaker 3: think you didn't have them any rate? Did you? No?
Speaker 1: They're outside my eight but with you like, every club
Speaker 1: needs to be striving to play finals and I think
Speaker 1: internally they would see it as a fail if they
Speaker 1: don't make play finals footy.
Speaker 5: They're in No.
Speaker 2: Nine to eleventh for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mitch Moses like, I'm not I'm not leaving.
Speaker 2: I'm not putting them any lower. While ever he's in
Speaker 2: the town.
Speaker 3: Can I bring this up? And I hate to bring
Speaker 3: it up because it's dominant dominated this podcast for weeks.
Speaker 3: They need to resolve to Zach Clo, Max Saga. Just
Speaker 3: get it done. Yeah, you don't want that hanging over
Speaker 3: your head heading into the season.
Speaker 2: Is it hanging over the.
Speaker 3: Resolve? The rhyme matters some issue as well, because that's
Speaker 3: salary cap space they can potentially have if they resolve.
Speaker 2: There's no bites, there's no there's no bites for him,
Speaker 2: there's no biting.
Speaker 3: Melbourne happy to take him and get rid of him
Speaker 3: and consume the cap money that means they get Zachlomax.
Speaker 2: That's not fair though?
Speaker 3: Was that? Was it not fair?
Speaker 4: Because it's not an equal trade Paramatta happy to give him,
Speaker 4: give him Rome's stuff, happy.
Speaker 2: About it, plus the two hundred and fifty three hundred thousand. No, no,
Speaker 2: I haven't agreed to it.
Speaker 3: It'll be took the two hundred or so that Ryan
Speaker 3: Madison will be owed, give him another eighty or ninety
Speaker 3: in a transfer fee, so that's three hundred grand in total.
Speaker 3: ParaMed get two hundred plus on the salary cap that they.
Speaker 2: Can wife and Paramount had taken it because they want more.
Speaker 2: That's right. They're not happy with it.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's why they got to resolve it.
Speaker 1: Dave story we broke on the Code Sports platforms and
Speaker 1: Telegraph websites. Yesterday was the NRL's in principal discussion about
Speaker 1: where finals footy will be played for hosting venues, and
Speaker 1: ultimately this one falls on the suburban grounds four Points
Speaker 1: Park at Manly, Shark Park, Ocean Protect Stadium, a Cronulla
Speaker 1: and also Jubilee Oval for the St.
Speaker 2: George La Warred Dragons.
Speaker 1: Now the NRL tell us that no decision has been made,
Speaker 1: there's no finality on it. However, you think the Sharks
Speaker 1: are in the gun here with.
Speaker 3: A line through them, Dave, Well, put a line through
Speaker 3: what's it called? I should be text protect it's done.
Speaker 2: I still think there's a door a jar here ready
Speaker 2: for who they play against.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say they play the Cowboys or the Warriors.
Speaker 1: I think there'd be a discussion to be had on
Speaker 1: whether they can still play at Chuck Park, knowing what
Speaker 1: crowd are they going to get at Allions or Combank
Speaker 1: if they're forced out of their park.
Speaker 3: So Peter Landers has said that this will be determined
Speaker 3: by a range of matters, right, capacity, fan experience, all
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, and the sole discretion of the
Speaker 3: ARA or commission basically means it's the sole discretion of
Speaker 3: Peter Land. So yeah, Shark Park's obviously out of the gun.
Speaker 3: I think Four Points Park and Jubilee Stadium not to
Speaker 3: the same extent. They're obviously under pressure pressure to have
Speaker 3: home finals there. As you said, probably depends on who
Speaker 3: they play. If mainly play the Cowboys in the final,
Speaker 3: they'll play at four Points Park. If they play South
Speaker 3: and the Roosters maybe gets moved. I've been a very
Speaker 3: vocal basher basher of suburban ground.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous, like, how can how can the game begin? How
Speaker 1: can the game be built on tribalism.
Speaker 3: Sorry I should protect How can the game.
Speaker 2: Be built on tribalism? And you hate suburban grounds?
Speaker 3: Why can't people go to watch their team play proper
Speaker 3: grounds rather than it's.
Speaker 5: Not a home ground?
Speaker 1: Again, this is rugby league is building the community that
Speaker 1: no sports one game. There is no sport in the
Speaker 1: country does more community work than rugby than the NRL.
Speaker 1: And you want to rip the fabric of the game
Speaker 1: away from the people where it matters.
Speaker 3: Give me a break. You rip the fabric of the
Speaker 3: game away from the people because I say they shouldn't
Speaker 3: be playing or games.
Speaker 4: Yere at like art oval, don't bring like heart into Honestly,
Speaker 4: we've got enough problay one we don't need.
Speaker 3: Unless they get the money spend the ground, they shouldn't
Speaker 3: play there.
Speaker 2: So where should West Tigers fans be come back?
Speaker 3: They should be played eight games a year minimum of
Speaker 3: combank to a Cameltown tour like.
Speaker 5: We're not not a paramount of team.
Speaker 2: Do you know there's no greater want to.
Speaker 5: Make money or not?
Speaker 3: I want to make money rich club.
Speaker 4: So what moved your your games to a place where
Speaker 4: your your fans aren't in the the game?
Speaker 3: They went to the Paramatta game last year was there.
Speaker 3: They're not conceded, come to get the car and drive
Speaker 3: five minutes down the road.
Speaker 2: It's not five minutes. Do you do?
Speaker 5: You think you do?
Speaker 1: You conceide that season seat holders would of the West
Speaker 1: Tigers currently would be less inclined to take up their
Speaker 1: season seat membership if they're forced to combak.
Speaker 3: Listen, we're getting side tracked. West Tiger.
Speaker 2: Like that anyway, because the Rugby League is the.
Speaker 3: Offense to like over the people who like that. I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about the suburb coming for you. They don't
Speaker 3: play home finals anyway, because they.
Speaker 2: Really misnomer here.
Speaker 1: The other misnomer is the fact that if you move
Speaker 1: of Manly verse the Roosters to Combank Stadium, suddenly you're
Speaker 1: going to get more fans than what you would have
Speaker 1: got at four points part.
Speaker 3: I have sympathy for Manly because we don't travel man
Speaker 3: We don't cross the bridge if we don't have to, right,
Speaker 3: So I think Manly is I don't think man Look,
Speaker 3: Manly is not in this conversation the same extent Crenula.
Speaker 5: Okay, people don't leave. People don't leave Crenella either. We're
Speaker 5: in that area too. People don't leave this.
Speaker 2: Rules Combank Stadium.
Speaker 3: You can't play Kombank.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was going to see.
Speaker 3: I thought you're.
Speaker 2: Fans to drive an hour to paramatter.
Speaker 3: For I don't know, but I think we can. I
Speaker 3: don't know where they play it, but I think we
Speaker 3: can all acknowledge that protect stadium with you on that,
Speaker 3: with a capacity of how many thirteen thy fifteen?
Speaker 2: It'll be fifteen this year.
Speaker 3: David, I should protect staying with the capacity of even fifteen.
Speaker 5: Suitable with you on that.
Speaker 2: However, it can't be one ruleful one and another for another.
Speaker 3: That's a kid.
Speaker 2: In competition is.
Speaker 4: Why are the Sharks driving for a home final if
Speaker 4: they're not going to get one? Like, what's the end
Speaker 4: of the season won't mean as much.
Speaker 3: Okay, we'll finish.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter if.
Speaker 4: They finished seventh, if they finish problem, if they finish,
Speaker 4: if they finish eight, it makes no difference. If they're
Speaker 4: not going to play their home team, they're still going
Speaker 4: to get a chance to play the final.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be a chance to play.
Speaker 3: Cotton Wolf the last four rounds. Because it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: where you finish. Please say it doesn't work.
Speaker 4: What do you if you're in that bottom floor the
Speaker 4: top eight, well, and you can't play a home final,
Speaker 4: what are you What are you fighting for at the
Speaker 4: end of the year, because you get it's the same.
Speaker 3: If foting finished as high as your ken Because maybe
Speaker 3: if you finish the top four year double chance.
Speaker 5: I'm saying you're not. You're not if you don't get
Speaker 5: any for the top four that if you're in the bottom.
Speaker 3: Who isn't advantage because you will get home dressing rooms,
Speaker 3: You'll get all the perks are coming with the home team.
Speaker 3: You're just not playing it playing your.
Speaker 4: The dressing rooms at Combank and yeah.
Speaker 5: Almost identical.
Speaker 3: Okay, one's a little better almost. But they get all
Speaker 3: the perks of being the home team.
Speaker 4: Without without their their home ground, without their fans, the
Speaker 4: things that make a homeground with you're saying.
Speaker 3: Without their fans, right, it's their fans choice, whether they travel.
Speaker 5: And supported in the area.
Speaker 3: Fans choice and drive twenty minutes, that's.
Speaker 1: For colored Alliansler driver, how from.
Speaker 5: Allians were not far from Alliance to get forty I'll.
Speaker 3: Give me a break.
Speaker 2: Forty you can get traffic from to.
Speaker 5: In forty five minutes, or what are you doing the
Speaker 5: whole way. We'll put the I'll say it again.
Speaker 3: If their fans don't want to travel, that's their fans fault.
Speaker 5: No one else is.
Speaker 3: But the support a team there, that's not the roll's fault.
Speaker 3: That's their fans fault. If their fans aren't passionate enough
Speaker 3: to drive thirty minutes getting their car drive thirty minutes
Speaker 3: to Alliance, which is an amazing fan experience, right, we've
Speaker 3: all been there, amazing place towards football. If they can't
Speaker 3: be bothered getting in a car driving thirty minutes, that's
Speaker 3: their own faucet.
Speaker 5: No one else is.
Speaker 2: The commercialities of that happening.
Speaker 1: For Cronulla to play the Panthers at Allions, you're still
Speaker 1: going to get a very similar You'll get twenty thousand, I.
Speaker 2: Promise you sections five thousand people. Yes, oh wonderful.
Speaker 5: That's great.
Speaker 3: About the corporates and all that sort of stuff. May
Speaker 3: I have immense sympathy for Coronella, right because this is
Speaker 3: not through their own doing, because the government won't give
Speaker 3: me any cash and that is a disgrace. Right, it's
Speaker 3: a disgrace that they get no money money spent in
Speaker 3: that stadium. Right. The government is that's the same with
Speaker 3: men with manly Sorry, the state government, they need to
Speaker 3: dip their hands in their pockets and show some money
Speaker 3: on what school, I protect data and four points park right.
Speaker 3: It's a disgrace that they don't get the money, but
Speaker 3: the fact is that ground is not fit. We agree
Speaker 3: on that, and again there's no fault. It's not their
Speaker 3: fans fault. It's the government's fault and the government needs
Speaker 3: a good hard look at itself.