WEBVTT - Sharri | 13 January

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<v Speaker 1>Live on Sky News. This is Sharry.

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<v Speaker 2>Good Evening. Well, I've got exclusive footage tonight of two

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<v Speaker 2>very high profile Australians catching up with Donald Trump at

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<v Speaker 2>Mara Lago. The video was taken inside the room and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to show you that in a moment, But first,

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<v Speaker 2>can I just say welcome back everyone. I hope you've

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<v Speaker 2>all had a good break. I hope you had the

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<v Speaker 2>chance to relax and have a breather. I had a

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<v Speaker 2>lovely few weeks with the family and the kids up

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<v Speaker 2>the coast. And it's our first show back tonight for

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<v Speaker 2>the year. It is packed and it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a massive year. There's already so much going on, so

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<v Speaker 2>much to talk about. We're coming up on the show tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>As I said, exclusive footage from inside Mary Lago of

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<v Speaker 2>top Australians meeting with Trump and Millennia. I'll give you

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<v Speaker 2>a hint. It's not Alban Easy or Penny Wong. Also

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<v Speaker 2>tonight we crossed to la where Washington correspondent Annalise Nilsen

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<v Speaker 2>will give us the latest on the devastating fires. Albaneze's

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<v Speaker 2>offensive claim that he's done all he could on the

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<v Speaker 2>antisemitism crisis I'll get Julian Lisa's response to that, plus

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<v Speaker 2>his push for National Cabinet to be convened to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with this issue. It's an idea the Prime Minister has

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<v Speaker 2>already dismissed, as he claims he's not responsible for the

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<v Speaker 2>racism crisis. Plus have young girls been betrayed for the

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<v Speaker 2>sake of political correctness. I've discussed with Spiked onlines Brendan O'Neill.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's start with the Los Angeles fires. Twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>lives lost, more than ten thousand homes destroyed, and over

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred thousand people evacuated, Beautiful suburbs reduced to rubble

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<v Speaker 2>and ash, the face of La completely changed, perhaps permanently.

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<v Speaker 2>And after a week, the catastrophe is still ongoing. Three

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<v Speaker 2>major fires still raging by the Santa Anna wins, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can see here's where the active blazers are ongoing.

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<v Speaker 2>And now the districts of bel Air and Brentwood are

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<v Speaker 2>facing fire warnings that they could be under threat. And

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<v Speaker 2>this may very well be the worst natural disaster in

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<v Speaker 2>American history. And these fires weren't a shock. The Santa

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<v Speaker 2>Anna winds have fueled wide files throughout southern California's history.

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<v Speaker 2>LA's environmental factors and the fire risk are well known,

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<v Speaker 2>so those running the state should have been prepared, but

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't. Their hopeless response unforgivable. They should have done

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<v Speaker 2>everything in their power to mitigate the fire risk and

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<v Speaker 2>reduce the fuel. Instead, they prioritized ideology and virtue signaling.

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<v Speaker 2>And now there's uproar quite rightly about why tiny fish

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<v Speaker 2>and diversity quotas were more important than saving homes and

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<v Speaker 2>saving lives. Or in a nutshell, here's what's gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Fire hydrants had no water in them, a major reservoir

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<v Speaker 2>was left empty and unable to be used. No new

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<v Speaker 2>dams were built despite funding approval ten years ago. The

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<v Speaker 2>city's fire budget was cut by seventeen million dollars US

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<v Speaker 2>that is last year, and firefighting equipment was sent off shore.

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<v Speaker 2>And as for the leadership for La, Mayor Karen Bass

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<v Speaker 2>knew there was a high fire risk, but shrugged her

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<v Speaker 2>shoulders and went on a free trip to Ghana. And

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<v Speaker 2>when she was pressed on this by a reporter, here

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<v Speaker 2>was her incredible reaction or non reaction.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while

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<v Speaker 3>their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire

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<v Speaker 3>department budget for millions of dollars. Madam, there have you

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<v Speaker 3>nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to say

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<v Speaker 3>to the citizens today?

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<v Speaker 2>And then the city's fire budget was cut by seventeen

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<v Speaker 2>million US last year. And that's according to the Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles Fire Chief Kristin Crowley, who said this impacted on

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<v Speaker 2>wildfire preparation, but her own handling wasn't so great either.

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<v Speaker 2>According to the Wall Street Journal, only five percent of

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<v Speaker 2>her department's budget was spent on fire prevention. Five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>And Crowley has called a diversity, inclusion and equity a

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<v Speaker 2>top priority. And then there's Governor Gavin Newsoon. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>so distracted by his obsession with Trump that he dropped

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<v Speaker 2>the ball on protecting his own people. In recent months,

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<v Speaker 2>he's spoken about Trump proof in California, But what about

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<v Speaker 2>fire I approof in California?

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<v Speaker 4>His call per retribution, revenge. He's pretty clear we responded

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<v Speaker 4>to his assault on California where he tried to unwind

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<v Speaker 4>our progress, and so we're doing now with a special session.

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<v Speaker 4>He is not waiting to react to that. We're preparing

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<v Speaker 4>for that in a much a more sober way.

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<v Speaker 2>To think Newsome wanted to be president. Surely he's finished

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<v Speaker 2>After this, voters are furious and have turned against him,

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<v Speaker 2>and news told one upset voter that he was literally

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<v Speaker 2>on the phone to the president, but it turned out

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<v Speaker 2>he actually wasn't literally on the phone to the president

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Was my daughter's school, governor, Please tell me what you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, But I'm not going to hurt of my promise.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm literally talking to the president right now to specifically

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<v Speaker 4>answer the question of what we can do for you

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<v Speaker 4>and your daughter?

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<v Speaker 5>Can I hear it?

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<v Speaker 6>Can I hear your call?

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<v Speaker 4>Because I don't believe it? I'm sorry, can I There's

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<v Speaker 4>literally I've tried five times. That's why I'm walking around

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<v Speaker 4>to me I was the president not taking your call

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<v Speaker 4>because it's not going through.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the problem with these officials. Their ideological political

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<v Speaker 2>obsessions are more important to them than fulfilling basic obligations

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<v Speaker 2>to keep people and their homes safe. One of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest issues in this whole saga has been the lack

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<v Speaker 2>of water. The water restrictions or because of the laws

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<v Speaker 2>around protecting a tiny fish called smelt. Trump has spoken

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<v Speaker 2>about this on his social media accounts and in press conferences.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very sad because I've been trying to get Gavin

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<v Speaker 2>Lissen to allow water to cover.

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<v Speaker 5>You have tremendous footer.

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<v Speaker 6>They send it out to the facility because they're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To protect their tiny little fish.

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<v Speaker 5>Which is in other areas. By the way, it's called

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<v Speaker 5>the smeller.

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<v Speaker 2>And for the sake of the smell, they have no water.

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<v Speaker 2>They have no water in the fire hydrants. Well what's

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<v Speaker 2>Governor Newsom's response to all of this. Well, he's announced

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<v Speaker 2>an independent inquiry, but he also claims there's misinformation, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's spoken about cheap political shots.

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<v Speaker 4>Reservoirs are completely full. Of the state reservoirs here in

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<v Speaker 4>southern California, that missing disinformation. I don't think advantages or

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<v Speaker 4>aids any of us responding to Donald Trump's insults, we

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<v Speaker 4>would spend another month. I'm very familiar with them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it wasn't misinformation. The reservoir wasn't full. That

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<v Speaker 2>one reservoir that serves the Palace aids was not full.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's exactly what triggered my desire to get the

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<v Speaker 4>investigation to understand what was happening with that local reservoir

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<v Speaker 4>that was not a state system reservoir which the President

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<v Speaker 4>elect was referring to as it relates to the Delta

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<v Speaker 4>and somehow connecting the Delta smelt to this fire, which

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<v Speaker 4>is inexcusable because it's inaccurate, also incomprehensible to anyone that

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<v Speaker 4>understands policy in the state.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's no question that one hundred and seventeen million

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<v Speaker 2>gallon reservoir was offline, was out of commission. Fire hydrants

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<v Speaker 2>simply have had no water in them, and this has

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<v Speaker 2>been widely reported. And the Wall Street Journal also reported

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<v Speaker 2>that the smelt fish water protections led to billions of

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<v Speaker 2>gallons of water being flushed out to the Pacific Ocean

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<v Speaker 2>each year, along with chronic water shortages. The Wall Street

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<v Speaker 2>Journal reports and I quote that mister Newsom opposed mister

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's first term efforts to ease the fish protections. They write,

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<v Speaker 2>you can lead California progressives to water, but you can't

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<v Speaker 2>make them think. But when you can't deal with questions

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<v Speaker 2>about why fire hydrants are empty, why a reservoir was empty,

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<v Speaker 2>why there isn't enough water supply, well, of course, just

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<v Speaker 2>blame misinformation. And the left media is upset that Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>and x won't help them censor the shocking truth now

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<v Speaker 2>that Mark Zuckerberg is on the same page as Elon

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<v Speaker 2>Musk in ending the so called fact checking, that's really

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<v Speaker 2>censorship in disguise. California's mismanagement is not a surprise, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not isolated to the area of fire protection. It

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<v Speaker 2>extends to drugs, crime, homelessness, petty theft. And there's a

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<v Speaker 2>sensational New York Post editorial about this. It says, with

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<v Speaker 2>a democratic governor, democratic mayors, democratic city councils, in a

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<v Speaker 2>democratic justice system, the progressives have darkened the land of

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<v Speaker 2>perpetual sunshine. This week's devastating wildfires are the pinnacle of

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<v Speaker 2>democratic incompetence. Environmentalists and politicians refuse to clear the underbrush

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<v Speaker 2>that fueled the flames. A reservoir in Pacific Palisades with

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<v Speaker 2>shockingly bosed for repair. This is a reckoning. The voters

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<v Speaker 2>must demand total change. Democrats have enjoyed one party rule

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<v Speaker 2>in California for too long, and there is no one

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<v Speaker 2>else to blame for what has happened. California is not

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<v Speaker 2>paradise lost. California is paradise squandered. The people must take

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<v Speaker 2>it back. It's an excellent editorial. I recommend you read it.

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<v Speaker 2>But La, that we know is home to Hollywood's sunshine, Wealth,

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<v Speaker 2>an opportunity, Well, it's now the global face of woke mismanagement.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the extreme example of putting ideology above common sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But the biggest and saddest question now is how does

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<v Speaker 2>La rebuild from this? The ten thousand families who've lost

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<v Speaker 2>everything they own, where do they go now? Where do

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<v Speaker 2>they live? How do they recover? So many don't have insurance,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's another story, but it's incomprehensible to think how

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<v Speaker 2>much has been destroyed and how many homes have been lost.

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<v Speaker 2>The extent of the destruction is the outcome of extreme

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<v Speaker 2>incompetence of Californian Democrats, whose shocking decisions unquestionably exacerbated the fires.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've been exposed. But you have to ask at

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<v Speaker 2>what price. I'm going to come back to that a

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<v Speaker 2>bit later. We'll cross to Annalie Nilsen in Washington, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's turn to Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 7>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>His inauguration is a week today, and already there are

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<v Speaker 2>some Aussies who are clearly in the new president's orbit,

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<v Speaker 2>and Penny Wang and Alban Easy are not among them. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>Australian businessman Anthony Pratt was invited to Trump's exclusive New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Eve celebration at Marra Lago, along with former Prime

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<v Speaker 2>Minister Scott Morrison and his lovely wife Jenny. I've got

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive footage that was sent to me by someone in

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<v Speaker 2>the room of both Anthony Pratt and Morrison chatting with

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<v Speaker 2>Trump and Millenia. Here it is. The footage goes for

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<v Speaker 2>about a minute. We're going to keep showing it to

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<v Speaker 2>you now as I chat. So this video is from

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<v Speaker 2>inside Donald Trump's New Year's Eve party at Mari Lago,

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<v Speaker 2>where the President elect held court. He had plenty of

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<v Speaker 2>time with both Anthony Pratt and Scott Morrison. It's understood

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<v Speaker 2>Millania and Jenny got on very well. They were happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be reacquainted since the last time they met when

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<v Speaker 2>Morrison was Prime Minister. As you can see as you're watching,

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<v Speaker 2>it's quite an expressive conversation and Trump actually at one

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<v Speaker 2>point taps Pratt's shoulder in a warm way. Trump's son

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<v Speaker 2>don Ja, was just behind them. You can see that

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<v Speaker 2>at some point in the footage, and I'm told that

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Pratt spoke to Trump about business and said he'd

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<v Speaker 2>invest billions of dollars under Trump's leadership, and a source

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<v Speaker 2>tells me Trump was very gracious. The song hot Stuff

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<v Speaker 2>by Donna Summer was playing while they chatted, and YMCA

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<v Speaker 2>of course got a crack two, but instead of the

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<v Speaker 2>words young man, everyone in the room sang Trump. Matn

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<v Speaker 2>Trump gave a speech at the start of the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>It was quite an extravagant affair, and Lara Trump also

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<v Speaker 2>sang a song, but it was quite a relaxed evening.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony Pratt donated fifteen million dollars US to support President

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<v Speaker 2>Trump in the final days of his election campaign, and

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<v Speaker 2>this included fourteen million to the Make America Great against

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<v Speaker 2>super pac another one point one million to Trump's inaugural

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<v Speaker 2>funt so. This donation put Anthony Pratt among the top

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<v Speaker 2>donors to Trump's campaign, alongside Elon Musk, Timothy Mellon, Miriam Addison,

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<v Speaker 2>and Linda McMahon. Pratt is now living in America. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been granted a visa for permanent US residency and he'll

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<v Speaker 2>be more than welcome there because he's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>largest Australian employers of Americans. He's seventy factories in the US,

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<v Speaker 2>employee around twelve thousand people. And Scott Morrison is also

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<v Speaker 2>spending more and more time in the US, particularly with

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<v Speaker 2>his company, American Global Strategies, where he's the non executive

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<v Speaker 2>vice chairman, but he hasn't moved there, despite some media reports.

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<v Speaker 2>At Trump's inauguration next week, it'll be Penny Wong representing

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<v Speaker 2>the Albanezy government. Richard Miles should have gone because in

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<v Speaker 2>defense circles he is better regarded in America and he's

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<v Speaker 2>the only one that Republicans have any sort of good

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<v Speaker 2>word to say about. The rest of the Albanezy government

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<v Speaker 2>will struggle under the Trump administration. They were already struggling

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<v Speaker 2>with the Biden administration because Alban Easy and Penny Wog

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<v Speaker 2>had split with the US At the United Nations. Albo

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<v Speaker 2>has been aligning himself with the outgoing Justin Trudeau, who's

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<v Speaker 2>well and truly on the outer or with Trump and

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<v Speaker 2>with Canadians. Alban Easy hasn't been asked to come to

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<v Speaker 2>the US to meet with Trump, and this will all

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<v Speaker 2>be an election issue in the next few months. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just one of many areas where the prime minister is

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<v Speaker 2>failing Okay, let's bring in now Sky News host Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>Bond and Joe hilde Brand. Great to see you, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't be better than gentlemen. Look at Caleb, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start with with that. You know, Penny Wog is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the one who attends alongside Kevin right

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump inauguration, Yet she's been angery the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 2>and by the way, not just on Israel, but also

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<v Speaker 2>on just how chummy they all are with China. The

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<v Speaker 2>US isn't comfortable with that. I mean, it just shows

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<v Speaker 2>how difficult it's going to be for alban Easy.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kevin rad for heaven say, we don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>go to his record of what he said about Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>which he promptly scrubbed, of course, from Twitter once Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was re elected. I mean, we're hardly sending our best,

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<v Speaker 1>are we. Now. You're probably right that Marles ought to go,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Prime Minister ought to be there. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>he was not invited is quiet telling. But really we

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<v Speaker 1>should be putting forward even though there's an election campaign

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<v Speaker 1>coming and obviously both Darton and Albanezi very much in

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<v Speaker 1>election mode at the moment, but we are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest leader in the world, the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>free world, the President of the United States being inaugurated.

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<v Speaker 1>Why would our prime minister not be bashing down the

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<v Speaker 1>door to get to that event, even if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>achieve a great deal. Apart from being there, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to talk to other world leaders. We know he's

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time overseas going and meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>world leaders at the beginning of his prime ministership. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be so keen to do it now,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps because yeah, indeed, but perhaps because he's more worried

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<v Speaker 1>about what's going on at home and he thinks he

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be on TV screen's here more than he

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<v Speaker 1>does talking to world leaders because he's worried about his job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we'll get to election timing in a moment,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with you joke, because I'm sure you've got some

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<v Speaker 2>insights on that. But when do you think of that footage,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it shows you just how close Because not

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<v Speaker 2>everyone at that New Year's Eve party had access to

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump. It was a roped off area. Yet they

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<v Speaker 2>spent quite a lot of time speaking with Scott Morrison

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<v Speaker 2>and Anthony Pratt, and yet nothing with Kevin Rudd, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>with Penny Wong. It's embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the problem is and it's a problem that

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<v Speaker 6>is even more broad than just those individuals. But there

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<v Speaker 6>has been I think a certain smugness among left wing elites,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, left of the left elites, the upper

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<v Speaker 6>middle class left, as I'm constantly lamenting about where they

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<v Speaker 6>were just dismissive of Trump, all embracing new sort of

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<v Speaker 6>agenda and that this is progressing politics and it's inevitable.

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<v Speaker 6>And we've seen that not just on dismissing Trump but

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<v Speaker 6>dismissing Australia Day. There was a really interesting poll in

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<v Speaker 6>the Telly today that shows support for Australia Day is

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<v Speaker 6>actually growing while it Dali himself no less said that,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, the midnight hour of wokeness is upon us

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<v Speaker 6>and that wokers in its death rise. A few of

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<v Speaker 6>us have been saying that, but again it's certain. I

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<v Speaker 6>think it actually genuinely seems to be the case. And

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<v Speaker 6>I know this from people I've spoken to in the

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<v Speaker 6>New South Wales Labor Party and from what has happened

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<v Speaker 6>in the US. But all these absolutely not no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 6>but people, but people would be coming out like people

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<v Speaker 6>in the Labor Party. Again, not to reveal any confidences,

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<v Speaker 6>but people in the Labor Party have been coming out

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<v Speaker 6>and saying, oh, we all think this is crazy too,

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<v Speaker 6>but we thought we were the only ones. We just

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<v Speaker 6>thought it was inevitable and that these people would just

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<v Speaker 6>take over our party. And they've actually pushed back and

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<v Speaker 6>they have won, and they have won convincingly with someone

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<v Speaker 6>like Chris Min's in charge, where you know, these people

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<v Speaker 6>are proud of fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Trots Albo, whether he knows it or not, achieved that

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<v Speaker 1>by losing the voice. The voice was the vanguard for

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<v Speaker 1>people to start standing up with these saying actually, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't like work anymore. So, whether he knew it or not,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the greatest thing, all.

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<v Speaker 6>These assumptions that this is eving evident, that's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 6>that Donald Trump's an idiot and he's crazy and he's

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<v Speaker 6>a madman and he's a loser and Trump is over,

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<v Speaker 6>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they were also happy to say that publicly.

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<v Speaker 6>That's right, and now suddenly they need his that's right.

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<v Speaker 6>And now suddenly they need Trump's favor And none of

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<v Speaker 6>them would even have his phone number, you know, none

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<v Speaker 6>of them would even know how to get in Gonet

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<v Speaker 6>with him. So I think it is just a very

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<v Speaker 6>very salient lesson in smugness and thinking that you are

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<v Speaker 6>on the right side of history. Sometimes history has a

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<v Speaker 6>way of surprise.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's why, as I reported late last year, Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Right has been trying to draft in Scott Morrison to

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<v Speaker 2>help him do his job that he clearly isn't going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do now. Well, as we've been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, the federal election will be held in the

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<v Speaker 2>next few months and already it's turning a bit heated.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton and Alban Easy trading barbs after the Coalition's

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<v Speaker 2>unofficial campaign launched yesterday.

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<v Speaker 8>Have a look, Coalition a negative about absolutely everything. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>I haven't seen any specifics, but Peter Dutton will continue

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<v Speaker 8>as he did yesterday to look for areas of division.

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<v Speaker 1>Australians have endured one of the most incompetent governments in

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<v Speaker 1>our nation's history.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Caleb, you know Albanezey claiming Dutton's trying to create

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<v Speaker 2>fear and division. We are feeling fear. It's Alban Easy

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<v Speaker 2>who's created it. It is the most ridiculous comment i've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard from the Prime minister. He has created the fear,

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<v Speaker 2>not Peter Dutton in opposition.

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<v Speaker 1>What division is he talking about? I mean, look, the

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<v Speaker 1>Prime Minister may well want to acquit himself with the

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<v Speaker 1>word opposition. The first few letters of that suggest oppose.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is the job of an opposition to oppose the

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<v Speaker 1>things that a government is doing. So of course they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a negative road. I mean, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>an opposition does. They have to combat the things that

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<v Speaker 1>a government is doing. What can he possibly mean by

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<v Speaker 1>a division? The only bloke whose own division is Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Albanize and his government with its absolute weakness, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>on his watch, with the help of some state premiers,

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<v Speaker 1>you have had social discord all across the country because

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<v Speaker 1>no one had the leadership to stand up, sayang, in

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, let's take a step back here. We as

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<v Speaker 1>a country don't tolerate this kind of behavior in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we've ended up with division caused by his government,

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<v Speaker 1>not by Dutton. And I mean we say you look

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<v Speaker 1>at yesterday the Victorian Trades Hall, who I know are

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<v Speaker 1>not your mates, Joe, even though you are a great

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<v Speaker 1>made of the Labor Party, rocked up out the front

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<v Speaker 1>of Dutton's campaign launch essentially with that three eyed fish,

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<v Speaker 1>a blow up version of the three eyed fish, thinking

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<v Speaker 1>that that's somehow going to win Labor another election by

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<v Speaker 1>fighting on nuclear energy, by saying, well, all the fish

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<v Speaker 1>are going to have three eyes. That is what Labor

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<v Speaker 1>is doing right now. They think that's going to win

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<v Speaker 1>him an election. They've got another thing, so so stupid.

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<v Speaker 6>And again remember there are a couple of MPs from

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<v Speaker 6>the left, including at least one from Victoria, who were

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<v Speaker 6>posting memes of the three eyefish on social media and

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<v Speaker 6>probably got Todd shut it down, Take it down, delete

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<v Speaker 6>it you look like an idiot. You are actually hurting

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<v Speaker 6>the callers because it makes the Labour Party look like

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<v Speaker 6>the unscientific blood heites, not the oppelaision. It was also

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<v Speaker 6>the Victorian Labor Party that posted that oh so funny

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<v Speaker 6>social media meme I'm Peter Darton and his wife and

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<v Speaker 6>his wife seeming to refer to him as a monster

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<v Speaker 6>again and Albanez he has to get on the phone

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<v Speaker 6>and clean up their mess because these are guys who

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<v Speaker 6>like to take a massive dump in their own backyard

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<v Speaker 6>and then when it all comes back to horn them

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<v Speaker 6>pitter dunsfault or it's all Rupert Murdock's fault. Now it's

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<v Speaker 6>your fault being the dumbass trots that in New South

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<v Speaker 6>Wales we're so proud to purge. So that is the

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<v Speaker 6>first thing to say about Victorian branch of the ALP

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<v Speaker 6>and what a massive liability it is going to be

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<v Speaker 6>on Peter dund That is the reason why he launched

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<v Speaker 6>his campaign in Victoria in jism, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably there's going to be a really big focus from

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton on Victoria, absolutely no question. He wants to

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<v Speaker 2>win a lot of seats there and for good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not much to win in Queensland. Coalition has a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's going to be New South Wales and Victoria.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe very quickly before you go, what are you hearing

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<v Speaker 2>about when the election will be called?

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<v Speaker 6>I think the fact that Anthony Albanezi did not go

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<v Speaker 6>to is not going to Trump's inauguration makes it look

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<v Speaker 6>like it'll bit sooner rather than later. There would have

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<v Speaker 6>been a whole bunch of back channels. So if he

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<v Speaker 6>thought that if Anthony Albanez was going, he would have

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<v Speaker 6>been invited. February it'll possibly call it in February. If

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<v Speaker 6>there's a rape cut in February, which is looking increasedb

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<v Speaker 6>more likely than it was. Apparently that is increasing, you

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<v Speaker 6>can bet your bottom dollar he'll call in it. But

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think he will go much after March. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think he'll want Parliament to go back. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>think he'll want to do it. I'd probably say.

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<v Speaker 1>March all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll hold you to that.

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<v Speaker 5>Joe, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll replay it one hundred times. If you'repe I'm shoking.

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<v Speaker 2>We got around klebn. Great to see you. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's turn to this major scandal in the UK where

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<v Speaker 2>politicians saw under pressure over the soft treatment of Pakistani

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<v Speaker 2>Muslim men sexually abusing and raping thousands of white working

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<v Speaker 2>class girls in towns across England. Now, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>smartest commentators in the world, Brendan O'Neill, is going to

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<v Speaker 2>join me now to speak about these grooming gangs. He

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<v Speaker 2>wrote in The Australian over the weekend, how political correctness

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<v Speaker 2>is protecting Britain's grooming gangs. He said that report after

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<v Speaker 2>report has found that local politicians and police forces were

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<v Speaker 2>initially loath to investigate the gangs because they feared appearing racist.

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<v Speaker 2>PC pushed out the truth and Brendan joins us. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>Brendan O'Neil, great to see you again, first show of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five. Look, can you explain to all of

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<v Speaker 2>us what has happened here and how is it the

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<v Speaker 2>case that men who have raped or sexually abused women

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<v Speaker 2>girls have been given soft treatment.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a really shocking scandal. It's the worst scandal

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<v Speaker 7>of the post war era in the UK, no question

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<v Speaker 7>at all. Because what happened is that thousands of white

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<v Speaker 7>working class girls were sexually assaulted and in some cases

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<v Speaker 7>raped and killed by gangs of men who were mostly

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<v Speaker 7>Pakistani Muslims. And we've known about this scandal for a

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<v Speaker 7>long time in this country. And the worst thing about it,

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<v Speaker 7>as you say, is that officialdom often turned a blind eye.

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<v Speaker 7>The police, social workers, local council officials. They often turned

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<v Speaker 7>a blind eye because they didn't want to be seen

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<v Speaker 7>as racist, they didn't want to be seen as Islamophobic.

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<v Speaker 7>So this case really shows us how dangerous political correctness

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<v Speaker 7>can be. You know, we tend to think of politicals

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<v Speaker 7>as something funny and ridiculous and canceled culture and watching

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<v Speaker 7>your p's and q's and using the right pronouns and

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<v Speaker 7>so on. But in these kinds of situations it can

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<v Speaker 7>actually be lethal.

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<v Speaker 2>And how is this playing out politically? Is the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>here completely on Kiir Starmer? And is the opposition party

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<v Speaker 2>you know, seizing on this or is Reform emerging like

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<v Speaker 2>the strongest voice in this matter.

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<v Speaker 7>It's causing huge waves here in the UK, partly because

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<v Speaker 7>of Elon Musk's tweets. He's really brought it back into

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<v Speaker 7>the global headlines, but also because people in the UK

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<v Speaker 7>feel that we've never had a real reckoning with this scandal.

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<v Speaker 7>There's a lot of heat on Kirs Starmer.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>The unbelievable thing is that Keir Starmer's government is currently

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<v Speaker 7>thinking of bringing in an even tighter definition of the

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<v Speaker 7>idea of Islamophobia. So here we have a scandal which

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<v Speaker 7>in large part was driven by people's fear of being

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<v Speaker 7>called Islamophobic, and yet Starmer's government wants to tighten up

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<v Speaker 7>even further any criticism of Islam, any criticism of the Koran,

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<v Speaker 7>any criticism of Muslim practices. I think what this scandal

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<v Speaker 7>really shows is how dangerous the idea of Islamophobia can

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<v Speaker 7>be because this idea essentially acts like a straight jacket

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<v Speaker 7>on public discussion. You're not allowed to say anything critical

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<v Speaker 7>of Islam. You're not even allowed to criticize individual members

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<v Speaker 7>of the Muslim community, which was the case in this scandal.

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<v Speaker 7>So the idea of Islamophobia actually is incredibly censorious. It

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<v Speaker 7>prevents us from getting to grips with the problems in

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<v Speaker 7>our society and it is a real, I think, bad

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<v Speaker 7>thing for our communities that we aren't allowed to openly

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<v Speaker 7>discuss the problems that we face. So Keir Starmer still

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<v Speaker 7>doesn't recognize how important freedom of speech is to get

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<v Speaker 7>into the bottom of this scandal.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, you just mentioned Elon Musk in that answer. In

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<v Speaker 2>his intervention, so he's endorsed this figure that probably most

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<v Speaker 2>viewers here wouldn't have heard of, Tommy Robinson. But doing so,

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<v Speaker 2>he's also attacking Nigel Farage. He says there needs to

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<v Speaker 2>be a new leader of reform. What do you think

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<v Speaker 2>about his intervention and how Nigel Farage is doing.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I think his intervention is it's a bit crazy,

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<v Speaker 7>it's quite funny. He really has put the cat among

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<v Speaker 7>the pigeons in British politics. So you know, it's fun

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<v Speaker 7>to watch to see him sending out all these tweets

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<v Speaker 7>and saying pretty zaany things about the government and talking

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<v Speaker 7>about this scandal that he hadn't previously heard about. But

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<v Speaker 7>I think he's wrong about Nigel Farage.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 7>Farage is the leader of Reform. In our general election

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<v Speaker 7>last year, Reform did incredibly well. They got millions of votes.

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<v Speaker 7>I think they got around fourteen percent of the vote,

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<v Speaker 7>which is incredible for a new insurgent party. They're getting

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<v Speaker 7>lots of votes from working class voters who feel that

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<v Speaker 7>they've been abandoned by labor, who feel that labor looks

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<v Speaker 7>down at noses at them and treats them as white

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<v Speaker 7>trash who don't know what they're talking about and are

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<v Speaker 7>all really stupid. That layer of the electorate is really

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<v Speaker 7>sick and tired of being patronized, and they're turning to

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<v Speaker 7>Farage as an alternative voice, and Farrage is very popular.

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<v Speaker 7>Tommy Robinson, on the other hand, the figure you mentioned there,

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<v Speaker 7>he's a very fringe figure. He is not taken seriously

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<v Speaker 7>by most normal people in this country. He's seen as

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<v Speaker 7>a bit of a problem in fact, because he discusses

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<v Speaker 7>things in a pretty cac handed way often, so I

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<v Speaker 7>think Elon Musk has picked the wrong horse in this battle,

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<v Speaker 7>and I think he needs to be a little bit

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<v Speaker 7>better informed about British politics and about the role Nigel

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<v Speaker 7>Ferrad has played in British politics over the past twenty years,

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<v Speaker 7>and maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>He needs a bit careful because it's often seen like

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<v Speaker 2>he's representing the US and Trump. Now I've given his

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<v Speaker 2>proximity to the incoming president. Brandan O'Neil. We always love

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<v Speaker 2>your commentary and your insights, so terrific to have you

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<v Speaker 2>on the show again. Thank you. Now after the break,

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<v Speaker 2>Albanese's pathetic response to the anti Semitism crisis, Well, why

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't he have the guts to call a national cabinet?

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<v Speaker 2>Liberal MP Julian Lisa, who's leading this campaign, will join

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<v Speaker 2>me live next. That's after this quick break, Welcome back. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>as you may have seen, Anthony Albinizi has claimed in

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<v Speaker 2>interviews that he's done all he can to battle this

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<v Speaker 2>horror rise in anti Semitism, and it's a statement that

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<v Speaker 2>should make every one of us angry because it's a

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<v Speaker 2>shocking dereliction of duty. He's never taken racism against Jews

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<v Speaker 2>seriously enough, and just days into twenty twenty five, this

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<v Speaker 2>is only getting worse. We've seen swastika is spray painted

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<v Speaker 2>across the front of synagogues one in southern Sydney, an

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<v Speaker 2>attempted arson attack at Newtown Synagogue, and recently we saw

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semitic garbage graffitied on cars in Sydney's East. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much that's happened over the past few weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>four weeks that we've been off. It's more than I

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<v Speaker 2>can even cover now. And isn't that devastating to say

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<v Speaker 2>Alberanze's leadership on this has been inadequate to say the least.

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<v Speaker 2>While I despair, Julian Lisa says this is time for

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<v Speaker 2>a national cabinet on the anti Sammitism crisis. He's absolutely right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's on set with me right now. Julian, great

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<v Speaker 2>to see you again.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks Cherry, good to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>So before I want to hear more about your idea,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually just want to show you Anthony Alberze's response

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<v Speaker 2>to your suggestion have a look at this.

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<v Speaker 8>I've seen some of some of those comments from missus Lisa,

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<v Speaker 8>I make this point that state and territory governments, again

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<v Speaker 8>we have a federation in Australia, state and territory governments

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<v Speaker 8>are responsible primarily for those issues. What we have established

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<v Speaker 8>as Operation a Alite to make sure that the Australian

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<v Speaker 8>Federal Police work cooperatively with state and territory governments.

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<v Speaker 2>Not his responsibility, Julian, it's the problem of the state.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, it's everyone's problem. Showing anti Semitism is a problem

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<v Speaker 9>for everyone. And indeed, when we've seen these escalating attacks

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<v Speaker 9>on synagogues and Jewish properties over recent days and months,

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<v Speaker 9>I think the time for wringing our hands and apologizing

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<v Speaker 9>that anti Semitism is a problem in Australia is over.

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<v Speaker 9>This is a time for action. I want to see

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<v Speaker 9>no one engage in these activities and the best way

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<v Speaker 9>you can do that is to provide it a terrant,

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<v Speaker 9>to ensure that if you're engaged in this activity, you

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<v Speaker 9>will do time, you will go to jail. And I

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<v Speaker 9>think the federal government does have a responsibility. Firstly, they

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<v Speaker 9>have a responsibility to convene the National Cabinet. Secondly, there

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<v Speaker 9>are offenses through using a carriage service, a mobile phone,

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<v Speaker 9>using apps to plan and organize these attacks. I think

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<v Speaker 9>if anybody is engaged in any of these things, we

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<v Speaker 9>should be using every power at our disposal, federal, state

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<v Speaker 9>and territory to ensure that these attacks don't happen. And

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<v Speaker 9>I was delighted to see the Premier of Queensland say

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<v Speaker 9>that if the Prime Minister convene National Cabinet to look

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<v Speaker 9>at these issues, he would be there at the heartbeat.

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<v Speaker 9>If a Jewish property, a synagogue of communal center, you

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<v Speaker 9>should do time. Because this isn't paint on a building,

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<v Speaker 9>as the Greens would like you to think. This is

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<v Speaker 9>about saying to your fellow Australians, you're not welcome in

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<v Speaker 9>this country and you should be scared. And we've had

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<v Speaker 9>enough of this over the last fourteen fifteen months. If

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<v Speaker 9>you'd asked me fifteen months ago if we'd still be

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<v Speaker 9>talking about anti Semitism now, I would have said, oh,

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<v Speaker 9>there's no way. But this has got worse, not better, Shari,

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<v Speaker 9>and that's why it's time to set a standard that

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<v Speaker 9>if you attack Jewish property in this fashion, you will

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<v Speaker 9>do time.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the issue that we are seeing incidents almost

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<v Speaker 2>every day now this year. It has been basically every

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<v Speaker 2>single day, and it's very rare that you hear about

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<v Speaker 2>someone being caught or someone going to prison. There do

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<v Speaker 2>seem to be no consequences. I mean Alban Easy today

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<v Speaker 2>he claimed that Peter Darton is creating fear. He's Alban Easy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's creating fear because he's let this hatred emerge. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't deal with it quickly enough and he's still not

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with it properly. Look, you're so you've today made

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<v Speaker 2>headlines in the Australian because you're also criticizing Penny Wang

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<v Speaker 2>for basically trading away Western values. What's your criticism of

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<v Speaker 2>her on this point?

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<v Speaker 9>Look, I think Australia has a proud tradition as a

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<v Speaker 9>Western democracy, a liberal democracy. We stand with other like

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<v Speaker 9>minded democracies, and I think Penniwong as the Foreign Minister,

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<v Speaker 9>both on Israel and on Ukraine particularly, has not done

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<v Speaker 9>enough and in fact has been selling out our values

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<v Speaker 9>and selling out our traditions on Israeli. You remember, even

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<v Speaker 9>as people were searching for bodies on the seventh of October,

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<v Speaker 9>even as people were unaccounted for, she was telling Israel

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<v Speaker 9>to exercise restraint. Even before the seventh of October. She

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<v Speaker 9>had that ham fisted change of the capital of Israel

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<v Speaker 9>without consulting the Israelis, without consulting people who are interested

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<v Speaker 9>in those issues here in Australia. She gave funding to UNRA,

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<v Speaker 9>which subsequently, as you know, was involved in the October

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<v Speaker 9>seven terrorist attacks, both as providing a headquarters for Hamas

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<v Speaker 9>communication operations and also with its own employees engaged in

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<v Speaker 9>October seven's attacks. And then she's consistently voted against Israel

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<v Speaker 9>at the United Nations and called for things like cease

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<v Speaker 9>fires which would have seen the Hamas leadership and Hisboalal leadership. There,

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<v Speaker 9>she's treated the Israeli ambassador worse than she treated the

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<v Speaker 9>ambassador of China, despite the fact that there were occasions

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<v Speaker 9>where Chinese troops fired flares at Australians.

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<v Speaker 2>And those military attacks Australia. That's exactly right, And they

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<v Speaker 2>think they can fix it all by sending Mark dreyfirst Israel.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, this is just a gimmick just before the election,

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<v Speaker 9>because I think the government realizes that fair minded people

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<v Speaker 9>don't want to see what Australia has done to Israel

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<v Speaker 9>happened to Israel because they see Israel as a country

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<v Speaker 9>like Australia, a liberal democratic country that stands for human rights.

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<v Speaker 9>And it's straordinary to see this. And Mark Drafisis is

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<v Speaker 9>completely the wrong person to send there.

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<v Speaker 2>He's just the reason they're sending him is because he's Jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Jewish, I'm Jewish. We've actually been extremely strong on

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<v Speaker 2>pushing back against his anti semitism.

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<v Speaker 9>Where has he been on this, Well, that's right, and

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<v Speaker 9>I think the fact that he's gone, along with all

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<v Speaker 9>the anti Israel positions of the government is deeply felt

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<v Speaker 9>in the community. Not only that he is the person,

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<v Speaker 9>more than any other cabinet minister who has the machinery

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<v Speaker 9>of government to deal with social cohesion and anti Semitism,

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<v Speaker 9>the Human Rights Commission, the Federal Police, and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Voted against your idea for a judicial inquiry.

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<v Speaker 9>He did repeatedly, repeatedly, And so you know, when the

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<v Speaker 9>government says that they have done everything they can, it's

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<v Speaker 9>just a lie. It's just like the lie they told

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<v Speaker 9>the Jewish community before the last election that there'd be

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<v Speaker 9>no difference in the policy in relation to the Jewish

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<v Speaker 9>community and Israel between the Coalition and Labor. No greater

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<v Speaker 9>lie has ever been told in Australian Politics show.

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<v Speaker 2>Julian Lisa, thank you so much for your strong commentary

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<v Speaker 2>and your continued push for action on this. So need

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<v Speaker 2>your strength and we're grateful for it. Thank you, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>sh all. Right after the break, the data is showing

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<v Speaker 2>Australians are starting to reject the change the Date movement

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<v Speaker 2>and they're embracing Australia Day. I'll discuss this with my

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<v Speaker 2>panel next. Okay, let's return now to the devastating fires

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles and we've been speaking about incompetence, but

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<v Speaker 2>have a look at this. The diversity head of the

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<v Speaker 2>Fire Department, Christine Larson, has come under fire for these

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<v Speaker 2>recently resurfaced comments. Is she strong enough to do this?

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<v Speaker 9>Or you couldn't carry my husband out of a fire.

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<v Speaker 6>Which my response is he got himself from the wrong place.

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<v Speaker 3>If I have to carryhim out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of a fire, oh god. Let's bring in to discuss

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<v Speaker 2>Adnimedia's Lisa Godard on News dot COM's deputy editor Liz Burke. Lisa, Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>great to see you. Look, Liz, this is serious mismanagement

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that Cleiper just shows the wrong priorities

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>of gender quotas and diversity quotas rather than actually protecting

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>people and their homes from the risk of fire. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, there are some quotes from that clip that

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 10>look pretty bad no matter what the context. But you know,

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<v Speaker 10>this week especially, there's another quote there where she talks

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<v Speaker 10>about when you want when you have someone to assist

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.440
<v Speaker 10>you in a fire, you want someone who looks like you.

0:38:29.800 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 10>I've never heard of people's looks being raised, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>in any sort of preferences when it comes to any

0:38:35.320 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 10>kind of essential services, let alone emergency services. No one's

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<v Speaker 10>calling the fire department saying I'd need urgent help. Can

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:44.600
<v Speaker 10>you please send someone of a particular ethnicity or of

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<v Speaker 10>a particular gender. But this, this clip was made, I

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<v Speaker 10>think promoting the department's d I push they're trying to

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<v Speaker 10>overcome some criticisms, some pretty serious discrimination lawsuits that they've

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 10>faced over the past couple of decades. But really, I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>I still want to give this woman the benefit of

0:39:05.160 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 10>the doubt. In that clip, she also raises some points

0:39:08.080 --> 0:39:10.000
<v Speaker 10>that I think are quite valid. That says, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>when you're a minority in an industry or in a workplace,

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<v Speaker 10>you come under.

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<v Speaker 2>A more scrutiny. You're judged more harshly, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's true.

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<v Speaker 10>So you know, I want to give her the benefit

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<v Speaker 10>of the doubt and assume that someone who is in

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<v Speaker 10>such a senior position deserves to be there and has

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<v Speaker 10>proved that they deserve to be there. But yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 10>kind of no real good way to spin those lines

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<v Speaker 10>coming out now.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just that one clip, Lisa, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>the entire strategy. I mean, I spoke about this at

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<v Speaker 2>the start of the show. It's California mismanagement by Democrats

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<v Speaker 2>who are obsessed with progressive politics. And you know, there

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:50.279
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the water supply because they were protecting fish. It

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't have been worsely managed. There's just was no

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<v Speaker 2>fire prevention strategy, and we are now seeing as a result,

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<v Speaker 2>tenth or more homes lost.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, you've had two of the major areas just completely obliterated.

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<v Speaker 11>I spent years working in America, so I know those

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<v Speaker 11>areas well. And it's astounding when you look at those pictures,

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<v Speaker 11>like you would have Sharry over the break and just

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<v Speaker 11>to see it was armageddon in those parts of California.

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<v Speaker 11>And I can tell you what Kamala Harris will be

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<v Speaker 11>rethinking any plans she may have had to want to

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<v Speaker 11>try and run in California after this, because I'm predicting

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<v Speaker 11>there will be an enormous backlash against the Democrats and

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<v Speaker 11>against this woke policy and Tip picking up at a

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<v Speaker 11>point Liz made, Yes, I understand and I fully support

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<v Speaker 11>that women should be out there and we should be

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<v Speaker 11>able to do whatever job we want to do. But

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<v Speaker 11>the reality is, when you look at military, if you

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<v Speaker 11>look at police, if you look at firefighting, there is

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<v Speaker 11>this requirement to have the strength and the physical capability

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<v Speaker 11>to actually go into a burning building, kick somebody up

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<v Speaker 11>and carry them out, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would like to think that if I had.

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<v Speaker 11>To call Triple O or I was in that situation,

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<v Speaker 11>whoever was coming to my rescue had that physical ability to.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that one hundred percent. Now let's turn to this

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<v Speaker 2>new pole from the Institute of Public Affairs in the Telegraph.

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<v Speaker 2>It reveals that the anti Australia Day movement is losing support.

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<v Speaker 2>Sixty nine percent of respondents say Australia Day should be

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<v Speaker 2>celebrated on January twenty six. Liz, we're seeing that Peter

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<v Speaker 2>dartin is campaigning on issues related to this, so there

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<v Speaker 2>does seem to be this return to wanting to celebrate Australia. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I walked into my local shops yesterday and it had

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<v Speaker 10>had a green and gold makeover. There were you know,

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<v Speaker 10>full size Australia flags hanging from the ceiling, bunting everywhere,

0:41:34.480 --> 0:41:36.759
<v Speaker 10>green and gold as far as you can see, and it.

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<v Speaker 2>Did feel like a celebration.

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<v Speaker 10>I felt like this year there certainly seems to be

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<v Speaker 10>less enthusiasm for the change the Date debate, and I

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<v Speaker 10>know that tends to ramp up closer to Australia Day,

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<v Speaker 10>but we're a fortnight out and I just don't see

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<v Speaker 10>the appetite for it this year. I think most people

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<v Speaker 10>are you know, pretty much over it. Most people do

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<v Speaker 10>want to celebrate Australia. They're proud to be Australian, and

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<v Speaker 10>I guess the enthusiasm and the energy to debate where

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<v Speaker 10>that date falls is probably you know, fallen away from

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:12.800
<v Speaker 10>the people who are really really passionate about it, many

0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:15.640
<v Speaker 10>of whom you know would still be disappointed by the

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<v Speaker 10>result of the Voice referendum, which a while ago now

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<v Speaker 10>but still you know, seems quite fresh and also I

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<v Speaker 10>think there's there's other problems going on at the moment.

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:27.399
<v Speaker 10>People are living in a cost of living crisis. There's

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<v Speaker 10>bigger international issues going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I think the energy for that debate from those

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<v Speaker 10>people who are in other years, you know, more eager

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<v Speaker 10>to discuss it, has has fallen away a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa. It's actually young Australians now, who you know previously

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<v Speaker 2>might have wanted to change the date, but at least,

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<v Speaker 2>according to this poll, are saying that January twenty six

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<v Speaker 2>should be kept. What do you think about this?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah, eighteen to twenty four year olds and I think

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<v Speaker 11>the figure went from forty eight percent Chowry up to

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<v Speaker 11>fifty two percent now want to celebrate Australia Day on

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<v Speaker 11>the day that we all argue it should be celebrated on.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with Liz.

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<v Speaker 11>You walk into the stores now and there is actually flags,

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<v Speaker 11>there is Australia Day material there, which they should be.

0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:14.319
<v Speaker 11>And I think Woolworth's probably played a really big role

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<v Speaker 11>in this, because there was an enormous backlash when they

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<v Speaker 11>said that's it, we aren't going to do it. And

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<v Speaker 11>I think the average Aussie wants to actually not be

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<v Speaker 11>shamed to go, well, I can't celebrate the fact that

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<v Speaker 11>I live in this great country. And from a corporate perspective,

0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 11>I can tell you a lot of boardrooms around this

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.800
<v Speaker 11>country agonized over whether we should be putting up social

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 11>media posts celebrating Australia Day. Now, years ago, you would

0:43:36.320 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 11>quite happily put up that cliche thole in the sand,

0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:40.879
<v Speaker 11>it's Australia Day, we're all out for a barbecue, We're

0:43:40.880 --> 0:43:42.960
<v Speaker 11>out with our mates. But then you had to really

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<v Speaker 11>stop and rethinking who am I going to offend? That

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<v Speaker 11>was the question everybody is asking behind the scenes, and

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 11>I think a.

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<v Speaker 2>Corporate Australia has been some of the worst perpetrators of

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<v Speaker 2>this woke culture. All right, well out of time, Lisa

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<v Speaker 2>got ed lisz Bag thank you both so much now

0:43:57.320 --> 0:43:59.960
<v Speaker 2>after the break and other cringe worthy performance by Joe

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>Biden reminding us so he's still the mad well for

0:44:03.520 --> 0:44:07.160
<v Speaker 2>another week at least with the nuclear codes, Koshagada would

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<v Speaker 2>join me after this quick break, welcome back. Well, let's

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 2>turn to the United States, where Donald Trump has been

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.759
<v Speaker 2>dropping hints on acquiring Greenland.

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<v Speaker 11>We need greenland for national security purposes.

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<v Speaker 4>People really don't even know if Denmark has any illegal

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:27.840
<v Speaker 4>right to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And Sky News contributor Koshagata joins me, now, kosher, great

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<v Speaker 2>to see you. Look, how has Denmark responded and what

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<v Speaker 2>do you make of Trump's aspirations here?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, it's a classic Trump. He loves to showcase

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<v Speaker 5>the art of the deal where this would be a negotiation.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not something militaristic, it's not something in the nuts

0:44:51.480 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 5>and balls. It's like big picture ideas, and it shifts

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 5>the orbit and window of what might be possible. The

0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 5>US does have a long history of making land purchase

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 5>agreements with dollars Florida from Spain, Louisiana from France, and

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<v Speaker 5>actually the US Virgin Islands were purchased from Denmark in

0:45:07.160 --> 0:45:09.920
<v Speaker 5>nineteen seventeen. So he's using that as a backdrop and

0:45:09.960 --> 0:45:13.240
<v Speaker 5>trying to put this trial balloon out there. The response

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<v Speaker 5>I think, you know, the leadership of Denmark and even

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<v Speaker 5>some parties within Greenland have sort of been brushing it

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<v Speaker 5>off and making fun of it. There are some polls

0:45:21.200 --> 0:45:24.279
<v Speaker 5>suggesting that the people might be interested in it, and

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<v Speaker 5>the leader, the Prime Minister of Greenland, actually just came

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<v Speaker 5>out and said that he's open to discussion and negotiation.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's a start, So it'll be very interesting

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<v Speaker 5>to see Trump laid out what the cases for the US,

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<v Speaker 5>which I think is obvious. There's also a case for

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<v Speaker 5>Greenland that you know, they're already being protected indirectly by

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:42.840
<v Speaker 5>the US. This would just make it more protective. And

0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 5>maybe there's more upside that they could share in that

0:45:45.040 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 5>model for their mineral and resource richness that the US

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:50.600
<v Speaker 5>could help them develop at a better and faster pace

0:45:50.600 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 5>than Denmark probably could.

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>And there have been reports that there have been private

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:58.520
<v Speaker 2>messages and back channels between Greenland and the Trump team,

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how that goes now. Meanwhile, Joe Biden

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 2>has made global air waves because he says he could

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.359
<v Speaker 2>have beaten Trump, and he thinks even Kamala Harris could

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 2>have beaten Trump.

0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:14.440
<v Speaker 6>Have a look, I think I would have beaten Trump,

0:46:14.680 --> 0:46:17.799
<v Speaker 6>could have beaten Trump, and I think that Karmala could

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:21.120
<v Speaker 6>have beaten Trump, would have beaten Trump. It wasn't about

0:46:23.920 --> 0:46:26.399
<v Speaker 6>I thought it was important to unify the party.

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<v Speaker 2>Kosher Kamala could have beaten Trump if one there was

0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 2>a way we could have tested that theory.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, he could have and would she could even

0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 5>would have, but they didn't. And you know, it's so funny.

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 5>He's arguing a hypothetical, but nobody believes it obviously, and

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.279
<v Speaker 5>their track records, not only now in this race, but

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 5>historically as well. They're not exactly the best campaigners that

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 5>they've lost multiple things both times, and this time Trump

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 5>was just a whirlwind that nobody could stop.

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<v Speaker 2>What about this former Trump advisor Steve Bannon, he's said

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 2>that Elon Musk is going to be out of the

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:06.480
<v Speaker 2>White House by inauguration day. So he's reportedly told one

0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>METEA outlet that he's not going to have a blue

0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.080
<v Speaker 2>pass to the White House, he won't have full access,

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:14.239
<v Speaker 2>He'll just be like any other person. I mean, that

0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>might technically be true, but kosher Elon's been by Trump's side,

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 2>so it seems unlikely he's suddenly going to be on

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:23.320
<v Speaker 2>the outer. But what do you think of this push

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>by the true magas against Elon?

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<v Speaker 5>You know, every movement has its alliances. Some are easy alliances,

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:35.439
<v Speaker 5>sum are uneasy alliances. And this tech right, as it's

0:47:35.440 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 5>been called to Silicon Valley people that have by and

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:40.320
<v Speaker 5>large been more friendly to the left by every metric,

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 5>and really threw down for Trump at this time is

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<v Speaker 5>an example of that uneasy alliance. So that's typified by

0:47:46.840 --> 0:47:49.120
<v Speaker 5>Musk versus Bannon, and these are people who've been in

0:47:49.160 --> 0:47:51.680
<v Speaker 5>the trenches and they've sort of prison sentences and they've

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 5>been canceled, and they're saying, hey, you know you guys

0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 5>are Johnny Completely's Your help was much appreciated, but take

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.680
<v Speaker 5>a backseat to us. You're sort of seeing that play

0:47:59.719 --> 0:48:02.760
<v Speaker 5>out with the legal immigration debate, with the free speech

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 5>debate a little bit, and I think that's kind of

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 5>what he's signaling. But for now, you're right, Musk has

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:09.600
<v Speaker 5>definitely earned a seat at the table with the help

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 5>that he's provided financially in every other which way, and

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:13.880
<v Speaker 5>those two seem to be joined at the hip. So

0:48:13.920 --> 0:48:17.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't see that breaking anytime now, but anything is possible, exactly, and.

0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.480
<v Speaker 2>It can't last forever that sort of romance. All right,

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Coach you gada. Great to see you again, and thanks

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 2>everyone for your company tonight on our first show back.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll see you tomorrow at eight o'clock. But for now,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure the man you have missed all summer, Paul Murray,

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:34.520
<v Speaker 2>have a good show, Paul