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Speaker 1: On scoring wields Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panety Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Reader Panny Show. Coming

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Speaker 3: up tonight an Australia Day backflip from a council after

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Speaker 3: a rate payer backlash. Professor Im Plimer will be here

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Speaker 3: to fact check the PM's renewables claims. Josh Hammer will

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Speaker 3: join me with the latest from the US, including some

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Speaker 3: fantastic poll numbers for Donald Trump, and later in the hour,

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Speaker 3: an Emmy Award winning actor and LGBTQ activist tells me

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Speaker 3: how he is now under attack in his own community

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Speaker 3: because he is Jewish and he never neglect left. He's

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Speaker 3: losing it. And tonight it stars Little Doom Goblin, Greha Thumberg.

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Speaker 3: Show me what how listen?

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Speaker 4: Show me what democracy listening.

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Speaker 3: Let's bring in the panel Senior writer for News Corp

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Speaker 3: Patrick Carlin and The Australians Media writer Ellsworth Gang will

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Speaker 3: start with the more deeming defamation case against Victorian Liberal

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Speaker 3: leader John Pursuto. Liberal MPs, we are told now were

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Speaker 3: inundated with messages from the public and according to Liberal

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Speaker 3: MP David Hodgett, around ninety seven percent of the messages

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Speaker 3: he received were supportive of more deeming and critical of

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Speaker 3: John Pursuto Patrick No surprises there could have told the

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Speaker 3: court that this move by Pursuito has not just been

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Speaker 3: enormously damaging, landing him in this court action, but also

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Speaker 3: the lack of political judgment political now is almost offensive.

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Speaker 5: Well, there shouldn't be an issue. I mean, it's essentially

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Speaker 5: a small story that should then put the bed internally

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Speaker 5: at some point, well before now we're having a court

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Speaker 5: case play out, we're having all these coalition politicians sort

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Speaker 5: of coming up and exposing the alleged sort of skulldugery

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Speaker 5: and chicanery of internal politics of this. This should have

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Speaker 5: gone away. I mean, the Allen government is in trouble.

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Speaker 5: It's Victoria's bankrupt at the moment. We've got all these

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Speaker 5: big projects that are putting us under pressure. We've got

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Speaker 5: cost them living. We've got the ideological thing with the

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Speaker 5: Allen government ministers. They should be in trouble. Why is

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Speaker 5: the Liberal Party having to deal with this or why

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Speaker 5: is it chosen to deal with this in such a

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Speaker 5: damaging way.

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Speaker 3: Well, can John Pursuito survive this, Sophie, whatever way this

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Speaker 3: court case goes, I just don't know. How you can

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Speaker 3: remain leader.

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Speaker 6: I think it's going to be hard for him rita

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Speaker 6: whichever way the case ends up. And surely the Liberal

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Speaker 6: Party in Victoria should be focused on fighting the state government,

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Speaker 6: not fighting themselves. As Patrick says, this was a story

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Speaker 6: that could have blown over in forty eight hours if

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Speaker 6: it was handled correctly. It was a story that could

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Speaker 6: have been killed.

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Speaker 3: It should have been a win for the Liberals. Here

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Speaker 3: you have a member of the first term MP, a

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Speaker 3: mum of four, who was physically assaulted that day by

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Speaker 3: these crazy left wing activists, and then she was blamed

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Speaker 3: for these neo Nazis who gate crash their protests by

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Speaker 3: Dad Andrews. Dan Andrews went for her very strongly. John

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Speaker 3: Pursuito could have had a win by sticking up for

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Speaker 3: his MP, sticking up for women's rights, saying she shouldn't

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Speaker 3: be blamed for the actions of these disgusting men who

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Speaker 3: gate crash the event. But no, he decided he was

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Speaker 3: going to be tougher on her than Dan Andrews was.

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Speaker 3: And here we have this deformation action and I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at the names of some of these lawyers. This is

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Speaker 3: going to be very expensive.

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Speaker 6: Sophie it is going to be very expensive reacha I've

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Speaker 6: heard it could be as much as up to four

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Speaker 6: million dollars. This entire thing, and also just the images

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Speaker 6: that are going through the media like Moi Redeem Deeming

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Speaker 6: arriving at court each day, as you said, a mom

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Speaker 6: of four on her own, and there's John Pursuito arriving

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Speaker 6: every day hand in hand with his wife. This is

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Speaker 6: a shocking look for the Victorian Liberal Party and and

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Speaker 6: all their ins and outs, all their private conversations are

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Speaker 6: now being laid out for the public to see.

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Speaker 3: And the former Treasurer made some very interesting comments in quarter.

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Speaker 3: We don't have time to get to those. Let's move

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Speaker 3: on to the Albanezy government so called misinformation disinformation legislation.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a major issue in the next

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Speaker 3: federal election. Daily telegraphs Tim Blair has had his own

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Speaker 3: take on this issue. Here argued, instead of using these

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Speaker 3: new laws to counter dangerous misinformation and disinformation, the alban

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Speaker 3: Easy government should try a simpler and much less expensive approach.

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Speaker 3: It should sack itself, after all, being among the nation's

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Speaker 3: larger sources of miss and disinfo, Albo and Co shurely

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Speaker 3: must just up and go. Patrick Albert and co. Are

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Speaker 3: guilty of spreading plenty of misinformation. Was only last week

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Speaker 3: that the Prime Minister copped an embarrassing fact check on x.

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Speaker 3: It's not isolated these laws are they had bad news.

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Speaker 3: The legislation in its current form is orwelling in Oh.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean every government, including the Albanesi government, lies

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Speaker 5: to try and win a point of view. We've seen

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Speaker 5: that with energy prices with the Albanesi government. You look

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Speaker 5: in America, Joe Biden, Carnala Harris have all been caught out.

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Speaker 5: And this is politics. It is a lot of it

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Speaker 5: is misinformation. It's about sort of spreading untruths. If you like,

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Speaker 5: who's the arbiter of what is misinformation? Who's going to

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Speaker 5: say this is the.

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Speaker 3: Lefty bureaucrats that are points will be the arbiters. And

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Speaker 3: that is scary as you say it is, and it's

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Speaker 3: going to impact everyday people us in the media, academia,

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Speaker 3: people and positions of influence aren't included in this sofa,

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Speaker 3: but the average person is. And of course we're going

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Speaker 3: to have cost of leaving immigration being top line issues

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Speaker 3: at the next federal polar But I think free speech

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Speaker 3: is also going to be on the ballot.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, Rechel and Patrick is dead right with that. Who

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Speaker 6: is the arbiter, Who who is the cop who just

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Speaker 6: the social media cop who says this is okay and

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Speaker 6: this is not okay? And that's where I think why

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Speaker 6: some of this might be set out to do the

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Speaker 6: right thing.

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Speaker 3: It can be incredibly.

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Speaker 6: Dangerous when someone doesn't agree with a view they say, right,

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Speaker 6: that's misinformation or disinformation and just stamp it out.

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Speaker 3: And I think that is concerning. Now let's go to

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Speaker 3: South Australia, the city of Umley. Am I pronouncing that right?

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Speaker 7: So?

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Speaker 3: Well well done? They have decided to keep Australia Day

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Speaker 3: on Australia Day. How quaint. This is a backflip after

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Speaker 3: there was a backlash from rate payers. A community survey

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Speaker 3: show just over sixty percent of rate payers want to

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Speaker 3: celebrate Australia Day on January twenty sixth, not another data

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Speaker 3: as the council was proposing. The only surprise here, Patrick,

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Speaker 3: is that the council actually listened to the rate payers.

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Speaker 3: This is again quaint.

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Speaker 5: That's unheard or isn't it. You hear all these councils

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Speaker 5: talking about this is what our electors want. This is

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Speaker 5: what the council people want. It's not truly you said,

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Speaker 5: look at some of these surveys and say, hang on,

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Speaker 5: that's just not right. That doesn't tell you with everyday opinion.

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Speaker 5: This is great that they had a survey six and

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Speaker 5: ten said this and they said all right, we'll go

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Speaker 5: back to it because six and ten that's what the

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Speaker 5: majority want and from most people Australia is not this

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Speaker 5: divisive thing. It's just, you know, it's a nice day

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Speaker 5: where new citizens get to celebrate that in Australia.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that you've still got in this inner

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Speaker 3: city affluent area six in ten saying keep it on

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Speaker 3: January twenty sixth I think is almost a miracle because

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Speaker 3: we've had Sophie just a barrage of bad stories and

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Speaker 3: ill will in the media suggesting this is a harmful day,

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Speaker 3: that this day to be celebrating it is akin to

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Speaker 3: celebrating genocide and white supremacy. We've had that narrative now

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Speaker 3: for so many years.

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Speaker 6: That's right, Racha, and look only is in a very lovely,

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Speaker 6: prestigious pocket of Adelaide. So there will be people critical

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Speaker 6: that the rape payers had a majority of view there.

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Speaker 6: But I actually think it's good that for once the

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Speaker 6: Council went Okay, this is what they think, let's go

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Speaker 6: back to the drawing board and let's reinstall what we're

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Speaker 6: originally going to do.

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Speaker 3: And I think you're right. Australia Day.

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Speaker 6: We hear a lot of noise from minority groups about this,

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Speaker 6: when I think a lot of Australians are just happy

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Speaker 6: to celebrate this great country.

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Speaker 3: And most of the minority groups were against Australia Day.

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Speaker 3: Let's be clear. Australian born, affluent, inner city types. They're

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Speaker 3: the ones who are, you know, the till seats, the

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Speaker 3: green seats as well. Now the Browlow Metal was on

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Speaker 3: last night. I didn't watch it because I don't like

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Speaker 3: being bored, but but you two were glued to the television.

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Speaker 3: Carlton's Patrick Cripps won the competitions Best in Ferres with

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Speaker 3: a record breaking forty five votes. Nick Dekos from Collingwood

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Speaker 3: was runner up and he also broke the record. But

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Speaker 3: the night wasn't with our controversy, Patrick, the Brownlow voting

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Speaker 3: system is under scrutiny again given the manner in this

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Speaker 3: the way this record was broken, is it still relevant

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Speaker 3: to the brownlow.

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Speaker 5: Oh look, I think it's definitely still relevant, if only

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Speaker 5: for the nice dresses.

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Speaker 3: Nice stress.

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Speaker 5: But look, you do have two very dominant players in

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Speaker 5: Crips and Decos. You've got to feel very sorry for

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Speaker 5: Nick Dacos. They are the kind of player, the style

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Speaker 5: of player who do attract umpires.

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Speaker 3: Vote. It's a midfielders award, isn't it it is?

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Speaker 5: I look at poor old Marcus Bontempelli from the Western Bulldogs.

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Speaker 5: He's one of the best players by mile in the

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Speaker 5: competition and he can't get more than twenty votes.

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Speaker 3: But he won the afl PA Award. But I think

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Speaker 3: so is so did. Did the right man win? Was

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Speaker 3: Nick Dakos robbed We'll reach it.

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Speaker 6: I'm biased here, I'm a Carton girl, and I was.

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Speaker 3: Really thrilled Patrick. I loved his speech.

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Speaker 6: I love that he grew up on a sheep and

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Speaker 6: wheat farm, and I just think he's a great role model.

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Speaker 6: And let's hope he wins a third one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I should have known not to ask you,

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Speaker 3: because that was always the response I was going to get. Now,

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Speaker 3: Italian Prime Minister Georgia Maloney has had a massive win

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Speaker 3: on the illegal immigration front, She's recorded a sixty four

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Speaker 3: percent drop in unlawful entries despite heavy criticism from the

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Speaker 3: establishment and from the EU. Patrick remember when we were

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Speaker 3: told she was this far right Zalat, a fascist, dangerous,

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Speaker 3: she would plunge Italy into crisis. Turns out she is

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Speaker 3: actually pretty effective and according to polls, the most or

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Speaker 3: one of the most popular leaders in Europe.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely. And look, you had British Prime Minister Keith Stamer

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Speaker 5: go go and visit her to find out how do

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Speaker 5: you do this. There's a big immigration problem for Europe

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Speaker 5: and Britain, especially those numbers. You look at those numbers,

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Speaker 5: you're talking tens of thousands, You're talking lots of deaths.

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Speaker 5: In need a solution, You need something that works. And

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Speaker 5: this is actually worked in Italy remarkably well. Look in

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Speaker 5: the stats. What are they doing that the world should

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Speaker 5: be copying it?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and so on the media angle. I remember when

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Speaker 3: she did win, the coverage was unhinged, hyperbly on steroids.

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Speaker 3: She was called a fascist. I wasn't kidding there. And

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Speaker 3: has there been any sort of retractions and maybe we

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Speaker 3: got it wrong. I haven't seen that in the Australian media.

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Speaker 8: No, not really reached her.

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Speaker 6: I can't say we have seen that, but actions speak

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Speaker 6: louder than words, and she seems to be doing good

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Speaker 6: job and point in cases exactly what you've just discussed

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Speaker 6: with those immigration numbers. So I think her critics need

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Speaker 6: to perhaps sit back and see that the work that

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Speaker 6: she is doing is obviously resonating and it is working.

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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton's nuclear plan, which yesterday he gave a speech

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Speaker 3: Plymer Professor Plymer. How reliable is battery storage battery backup?

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Speaker 3: Now. The Australian Pipelines and Gas Association and Master Plumbers

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Speaker 3: before you go in the opposition leader's nuclear plan will

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Speaker 8: Well, this is common sense to have energy security and

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Speaker 8: that gives you energy security. We currently don't have energy security.

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Speaker 3: We don't and we're becoming increasingly reliant on China for renewables,

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Speaker 3: Professie Climer, thank you so much for your time. Evening

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Speaker 3: still to come, and Lefties losing a plass. Josh Hammer

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Speaker 3: promising news for Donald Trump. Welcome back. Now it's time

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Speaker 3: for lefties losing it. Remember that angry little doom goblin

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Speaker 3: Gritteth Thunberg, Well, she appears to have lost interest in

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Speaker 3: Me what the people looks like?

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Speaker 4: Show me what pot, Show me what democracy looks like.

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Speaker 4: Show me what democracy looks like. Show me what the

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Speaker 9: Show me what po.

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Speaker 3: That's talking about power for a global warming alarmist. There

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Speaker 11: One good, oh my justice, human rights, one.

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Speaker 4: Struggle, one good, climate justice, human.

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Speaker 3: Rights, one struggle, one fired, climate justice, human rights genius.

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Speaker 3: That's that intersectional dementedness that the left have embraced. It's

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Speaker 3: all just an anti West, neo Marxist ideology. The issue

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Speaker 3: since we heard from transactivist still in Mulvania. I wonder

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Speaker 3: what is up to My pronouns are us a?

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Speaker 12: Pronouns?

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Speaker 8: Are usaid?

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Speaker 3: How about it? Okay, let's move on. Time to check

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Speaker 3: in with the leader of the free world. Here is

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Speaker 3: President Joe Biden struggling at the Quad address this week.

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Speaker 3: There were only three other leaders on stage with him,

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Speaker 13: So I want to thank you all for being here,

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Speaker 13: and now who am I introduce you next?

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Speaker 1: Who's next, distinguished guests, the Prime Minister of the Republic

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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the woman who replaced him as the Democrat's presidential

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Speaker 7: So I loving a former vice PRESI well at that.

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Speaker 11: Project twenty twenty five is Donald Trump's play for the

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Speaker 3: Women, color people, people of color and the LGBTQ plus community.

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Speaker 4: To band together and to finally defeat the Trump agenda.

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Speaker 3: And I want to do that.

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Speaker 11: Him have the pulse do you want of ships show?

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Speaker 3: But it turns out the lies she spewed there about

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Speaker 3: She was reading from a script held up by one

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Speaker 2: What is a woman?

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Speaker 3: Can you tell me what a woman is?

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Speaker 3: I'm really sorry for the loss of your brain cells.

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Speaker 7: You have to realize how bad things got, particularly for

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Speaker 3: I'm going to have plenty more lefties losing it content

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Speaker 3: with my next guest, including more of the real Kamala,

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Speaker 3: you know, the one who has been the borders are,

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Speaker 3: are at large and Senior Council for the Article three project,

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Speaker 14: me because she is still not given a foalsome sit

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Speaker 14: down interview since she bloodlessly could her purported boss Joe

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Speaker 14: Biden back in July. You know, Trump has been a

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Speaker 14: time struggling to try to land a go to nickname

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Speaker 14: for Kamala Harris. He has his trademark nicknames. There was

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Speaker 14: of course Little Marco and lion Ted Cruz in twenty

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Speaker 14: sixteen and all of that.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 14: I mean, some people think that it should be coming

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Speaker 14: law because she's pretty communist leaning, you might say, I mean,

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Speaker 14: I think another alternate possibility might be Camellia law, because.

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Speaker 12: She's a chameleon.

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Speaker 14: I mean, she uses a total chamellion. I mean, something

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Speaker 14: that she says in twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 14: who knows if she's gonna believe it tomorrow, to say

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Speaker 14: nothing about three to four or five years from now,

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Speaker 14: you know. Looking at the electoral college map, I actually

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Speaker 14: was playing around with my map earlier today, kind of

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Speaker 14: doing some different alternative scenarios. It's really gonna come down

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Speaker 14: to Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, in my opinion, is really the number

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Speaker 14: one battleground to say of this November. Are the voters

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Speaker 14: in Pennsylvania when they are informed that Kamala Harris supported

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Speaker 14: a full ban on fracking oil and natural gas as

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Speaker 14: recently as twenty and twenty, how are they going to

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Speaker 14: react to that? I mean, she could pretend like she

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Speaker 14: didn't mean it. She could pretend like she olds a

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Speaker 14: different position now. But How are you possibly supposed to

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Speaker 14: believe her, especially when she refuses to sit down for

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Speaker 14: an actual interview with any interviewer across the entire spectrum,

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Speaker 14: even a friend the interview.

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Speaker 3: Now you mentioned Pennsylvania, don'tbald. Trump's going to be back there.

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Speaker 3: He's going to the site of the first attempt on

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Speaker 3: his life for a bullet nicked his ear after a

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Speaker 3: last millisecond head turn saved his life. It's just still

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Speaker 3: incredible to think about. He's going to be holding another

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Speaker 3: rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on October five, and Democrat Senator

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Speaker 3: for Pennsylvania John Fetterman has said there's growing enthusiasm for

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Speaker 3: Trump in the Keystone State.

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Speaker 13: And I never agreed with our approach talking about that

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Speaker 13: he's a convicted felon. It's not going to have any

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Speaker 13: impact on that. It's like what's left. He's been impeached

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Speaker 13: twice now, it's been two attempted assassinations, one where a

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Speaker 13: bullet actually actually hit him. There's energy and there's kinds

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Speaker 13: of anger on the ground in Pennsylvania and people are

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Speaker 13: very committed and strunk. Trump is going to be strong.

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Speaker 3: So much is riding on the critical swing state of pencil.

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Speaker 3: And I think it's very clever for Trump to return

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Speaker 3: to the scene of that first assassination attempt because a

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Speaker 3: maidis tried to memory that whole incident.

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Speaker 14: Yes, so, first of all, a brilliant move by Donald Trump,

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Speaker 14: utterly brilliant to return to Butler, Pennsylvania. He actually was

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Speaker 14: in Pennsylvania over the past twenty four hours, well in Indiana, Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 14: a town called Indiana, not to be confused the state,

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Speaker 14: but to go back to the actual scene of when

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Speaker 14: he was literally millimeters I mean sentimiters are most probably

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Speaker 14: millimeters away from having his life just taken away from

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Speaker 14: us on the world stage. To go back there in

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Speaker 14: a triumphant return is a is a brilliant political tactic.

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Speaker 14: I mean, this is the kind of tactic that wins

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Speaker 14: Trump all sorts of new converts, new fans there because

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Speaker 14: they see someone who have the courage to get up

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Speaker 14: there after his brush with death. The angel of death

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Speaker 14: is hovering at that point inches above his head. He

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Speaker 14: gets up there, and he has that iconic photo, that

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Speaker 14: historic world iconic photo with the raised f pump. To

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Speaker 14: go back there, hopefully he imitates that scene. Hopefully he

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Speaker 14: tries his best to recapture that exact scene where he's

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Speaker 14: raising the fist there. It's a brilliant move. But you know,

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Speaker 14: speaking of John Fetterman, give credit where credit is due.

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Speaker 14: John Fetnerman once again is one of the more rational

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Speaker 14: Democrats out there. Not necessarily a particularly high bar of

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Speaker 14: these days, but John Fetterman, who has been very sober

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Speaker 14: actually when it comes to the conflict in the Middle

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Speaker 14: least compared with the rest of his party. He sounds

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Speaker 14: very sober here as well, saying that the whole convicted

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Speaker 14: fellon threat to democracy thing.

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Speaker 3: It's not playing.

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Speaker 14: No one cares. And the reason that the threat to

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Speaker 14: democracy thing, by the way, Rita is not playing is

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Speaker 14: because there is one party in America right now that

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Speaker 14: is literally trying to toss the opponent in jail. It's

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Speaker 14: not the Republican Party. It is the Party of Biden

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Speaker 14: Harris and the Democratic Party. So that you know that

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Speaker 14: dog won't hunt, as they say in the South and whatnot. There,

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Speaker 14: they're gonna have to be Trump on the actual issues.

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Speaker 14: The problem, to get back to what we were just

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Speaker 14: saying a few minutes ago, is that they can't talk

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Speaker 14: about the issues because they have a candidate who doesn't

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Speaker 14: know what she stands for and is changing her purportance

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Speaker 14: stands every single day ending in white.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, projection is all the left have these days.

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Speaker 3: Accuse your opponents of what you yourself are guilty of,

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Speaker 3: and that we see that over and over again, and

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Speaker 3: not just in the US. But I wonder if the

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Speaker 3: honeymoon is finally over for Kamala Harris. A new poll

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Speaker 3: from the New York Times Senate College shows a Trump

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Speaker 3: winning in the battleground states of the Sun Belt. He

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Speaker 3: leads Harris in Arizona fifty forty five. In Georgia, the

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Speaker 3: margin is four percent, forty nine to forty five, and

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Speaker 3: in North Carolina, Trump is ahead forty nine to forty seven.

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Speaker 3: And we know, Josh that historically his numbers are understated.

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Speaker 3: There's just a shyness factor when it comes to people

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Speaker 3: telling polsters that they're going to be voting for Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump totally.

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Speaker 14: So you know, in New York Times, Sienna considered one

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Speaker 14: of the very best polsters here in the United States.

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Speaker 14: And this is this is a great hole for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 14: I mean, they have him comfortably ahead out out in

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Speaker 14: Arizona state that he obviously has to win. You know,

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Speaker 14: he's leading in most of the higher quality polls out

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Speaker 14: in Nevada as well. Nevada as a state that has

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Speaker 14: not gone for Republicans at a presidential level in two

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Speaker 14: decades since George W. Bush won it in two thousand

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Speaker 14: and four. He's looking pretty good in Georgia right now.

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Speaker 14: You know, it's gonna come down to those rust belt states, which,

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Speaker 14: by the way, is the reason that I wrote a

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Speaker 14: column all the way back in March saying that he

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Speaker 14: should pick JD. Evans to be his running mate because JD.

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Speaker 14: Vance is quite literally mister Rustbelt. I mean, he's from Ohio.

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Speaker 14: He wrote hill Billy elogy. You know, you know he

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Speaker 14: lived this life. So in this final five six weeks

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Speaker 14: of the campaign, let's get Tim Wallas, who was born Nebraska.

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Speaker 14: He's the governor of Minnesota. He is something of a

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Speaker 14: Midwestern guy himself. Let's get him up there against JD.

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Speaker 8: Vans.

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Speaker 14: They're actually gonna have a vice presidential debate next week,

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Speaker 14: so I can't wait for that. But you know, besides

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Speaker 14: the actual kind of fifty cuss of a mono a

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Speaker 14: mono debate, let's get them both out there having dueling rallies.

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Speaker 14: Let's see which Midwesterner can actually win the hearts and

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Speaker 14: minds of the actual Rust Belt voters, the weight working class,

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Speaker 14: the voter that Trump tapped into in twenty sixteen. I

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Speaker 14: would be willing to bet that it's gd Evans who

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Speaker 14: can tap into them in a way that Tim Waltz cannot.

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Speaker 14: I continue to think that Don Trump's actually a pretty

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Speaker 14: good shape to win this election.

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Speaker 3: Now, there have been at more revelations about that second

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Speaker 3: assassination attempt against Donald Trump, the suspects that note has

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Speaker 3: been released. Ryan Wesley Routh wrote, this was an assassination

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Speaker 3: attempt on Donald Trump, but I am so sorry failed you.

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Speaker 3: I tried my best and gave it all the gumption

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Speaker 3: I could muster. It is up to you now to

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Speaker 3: finish the job, and I will offer one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty thousand dollars to whoever can complete the job. Josh, Well,

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Speaker 3: what more can he tell us about this man and

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Speaker 3: the way this case is being handled?

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Speaker 14: Right, So, there are a few things to note here.

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Speaker 14: First of all, you know he was planning this for months,

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Speaker 14: quite quite literally months. Apparently he cased out the golf

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Speaker 14: course for weeks. In events he was stalking Donald Trump

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Speaker 14: from Afar for months on ends, he wrote this chilling letter.

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Speaker 14: You know, he actually self published a book last year

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Speaker 14: in twenty twenty three where he actually called for Iran,

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Speaker 14: for the Iranian regime to assassinate Donald Trump. Now he's

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Speaker 14: offering a one hundred and fifty thousand dollars bounty. I mean,

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Speaker 14: as if he has that cash on hand. I mean,

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Speaker 14: the guy's a total lunatic. It's not he can pay

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Speaker 14: that up anyway there, But I mean talk about something

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Speaker 14: that obviously should never have happened, especially after Butler Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 14: I you know, to this day, we have not gotten

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Speaker 14: answers from the US Secret Service. They actually released an

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Speaker 14: internal review of what happened on Friday. They really did

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Speaker 14: not come to any firm conclusions there either as to

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Speaker 14: what happened in either of these attempted assassinations, were probably

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Speaker 14: gonna have to rely on Congress and the subpoena power.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 14: The good news is that because Ryan Routh in this

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Speaker 14: letter actually said that he was going to attempt to assassinate,

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Speaker 14: he used the word assassination. Because of that, the Department

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Speaker 14: of Justice to turn jeral Merrick Garland and the US Attorney.

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Speaker 14: They are likely now to bring an additional charge. He's

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Speaker 14: a raven charged with two federal firearms charges. They're going

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Speaker 14: to attack on an additional charge for attempted assassination with

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Speaker 14: the President of the United States, which I many others

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Speaker 14: are calling for last year. So you have that, you

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Speaker 14: also have Governor DeSantis up in Tallahassee or Capital who's

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Speaker 14: leading a concurrent investigation trying to bring attempted murder charges.

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Speaker 14: DeSantis should not slow down with that. He should continue

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Speaker 14: full speed ahead as well. Look, in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 14: I am a proponent of capital punishment. I hope that

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Speaker 14: I would prefer that this man fry and not see

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Speaker 14: the light of day. But if it has to be

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Speaker 14: life in prison, I guess I will take that.

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Speaker 3: There's so many unanswered questions, though, Josh, about where this

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Speaker 3: man got his money from, because it doesn't seem to

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Speaker 3: have any source of real income. But he did extensive travel,

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Speaker 3: who was paying for that? Why didn't he spend any

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Speaker 3: real time in prison? He faced dozens of serious charges,

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Speaker 3: weapons of mass destruction charge, you had a police standoff

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Speaker 3: for hours. There seems to be a lot of unanswered

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Speaker 3: questions with this as there is with Butler. But I

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Speaker 3: want to move on to today the Argentinian Trump, as

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Speaker 3: he has been called Harvia Milay. Being in New York

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Speaker 3: he met with Elon Musk, who was wearing a black

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Speaker 3: Maga cap. Tell me about the impact Mila has had

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Speaker 3: on Argentina in a relatively short period of times. Is

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Speaker 3: a country that went from one of the riches in

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Speaker 3: this region in South America to one of the poorest

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Speaker 3: thanks to socialism, perrhism. What impact has Milay's small government

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Speaker 3: approach had so far.

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Speaker 14: Well, in a very short time period, he has already

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Speaker 14: taken drastic measures to turn around the Argentinian economy. I mean,

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Speaker 14: inflation has come down to a relatively normal level, wages

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Speaker 14: have been increasing in real inflation, just the terms GDP

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Speaker 14: per capita is already on the rise, certainly relative to

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Speaker 14: what it was under his predecessor. As you said, Rider,

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Speaker 14: Argentina was one of the wealthiest countries in Latin America.

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Speaker 14: In fact, I think by some measures it was actually

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Speaker 14: by it was actually clearly number one for a period

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Speaker 14: of time there and it became just an absolutely indebted

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Speaker 14: socialist hellhole. And you know what he's been able to

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Speaker 14: achieve in a very short time ought to be inspiring

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Speaker 14: to those around the world who would seek to come

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Speaker 14: into power in a system of leftism or totalitanism and

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Speaker 14: then be given the opportunity to try to turn around.

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Speaker 14: There's a lot of meat on the bone, is what

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Speaker 14: I'm trying to say, in a lot of left wing

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Speaker 14: governments all throughout the world. The story of Hoavier Malay

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Speaker 14: now quickly he's come in and turned this around very quickly.

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Speaker 14: That should give inspiration to those seeking to challenge and

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Speaker 14: depose a lot of these other left wing socialists, rulers,

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Speaker 14: prime ministers, dictators, whatever their title may or may not be,

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Speaker 14: all throughout the world. And also on the global stage

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Speaker 14: with what he's saying in terms of the pro Trump rhetoric,

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Speaker 14: he's casting good votes at the United Nations. By the way,

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Speaker 14: Argentina has been an actually rare, standout good vote when

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Speaker 14: it comes especially to Middle East issues. You know that

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Speaker 14: was not the case under the previous governments. And Argentina

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Speaker 14: is a fairly large country, it's a good sized population,

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Speaker 14: so this is an important story to keep your eye on.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I remember I think it was just two

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Speaker 3: or three days before that election where Milay was waving

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Speaker 3: an Israeli flag at one of his rallies, so he

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Speaker 3: was unashamedly pro Israel, even when I think he was

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Speaker 3: advised it could be costly for him during the election. Now,

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Speaker 3: before you go, I just want to ask you about

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Speaker 3: a report from Channel twelve News in Israel. They've reported

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Speaker 3: that the UN, together with the US Department of Justice,

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Speaker 3: is arguing that unrighte employees who were involved in October

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Speaker 3: seven should have immunity from legal action. Can you shed

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Speaker 3: any more light on this developing story because it seems unbelievable.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's actually even worse than that Jerusalem Post headline

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Speaker 14: that the viewers just saw is indicating. So the UN

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Speaker 14: is not only seeking immunity for its own employees. Its

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Speaker 14: own employees, you know, which, by the way, by a

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Speaker 14: very large margin, happened to be moonlighting as Hamas Jihattist apparatchicks.

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Speaker 14: You know, they're basically you and employees by day Jihattist

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Speaker 14: by night. But it's actually worse than that, because the

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Speaker 14: Joe Biden do o J I'm gonna repeat this, the

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Speaker 14: Joe Biden do OJ has filed a brief in court

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Speaker 14: agreeing with this argument. The official stance of the United

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Speaker 14: States Department of Justice is that the UNRAN employees who

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Speaker 14: participated in the single largest slaughter of the Jewish people

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Speaker 14: since Hitler and the Nazis were alive, deserve immunity from

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Speaker 14: prosecution because they're international employees. I mean, I don't have

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Speaker 14: words to describe how unspeakably evil this is. And you know, look,

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Speaker 14: if you're looking at what's happening on the world stage

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Speaker 14: in general, come November here in America, you really ought

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Speaker 14: to pull a lever for Donald Trump, given how much

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Speaker 14: the world is on fire over the past few years.

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Speaker 14: But if you needed one final closing argument, it probably

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Speaker 14: should be this. I mean, this is just a morally jarring,

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Speaker 14: absolutely rock bottom level stance that the Joe Biden doj

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Speaker 14: is taking, by the way, taken by Attorney General Merrick Garland,

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Speaker 14: who is the son of if I'm not mistaken, a

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Speaker 14: Polcaster Vibors as well.

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Speaker 3: Josh Hammah, Thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 14: Thank you reader.

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Speaker 3: Coming up, an award winning actor and LGBTQ activist tells

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Speaker 3: me he is now under attack in his own community

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Speaker 3: because he is Jewish. Welcome back, joining me now. Is Jewish,

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Speaker 3: LGBTQ advocate and Emmy Award winning actor. You've all, David,

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Speaker 3: You've all. This year, you attended a Pride parade in Washington,

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Speaker 3: d C. Where you and the group you were with

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Speaker 3: were physically assaulted, abuse spat on just for being Jewish

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Speaker 3: and supporting Israel. Here's some of what happened.

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Speaker 8: Rushing us.

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Speaker 7: You're rushing us.

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Speaker 11: You can't hear.

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Speaker 12: These. I have been a lifelong LGBTQ activist. I believe

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Speaker 12: in the values.

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Speaker 3: Of protecting LGBTQ people.

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Speaker 12: But they are attacking us in the middle of a

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Speaker 12: Pride march. Am I not supposed to be welcome within

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Speaker 12: my own LGBTQ community because I am Jewish, because I'm Israeli.

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Speaker 12: We are people of all nationalities here, all different types

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Speaker 12: of LGBTQ people, and we're being booed right now.

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Speaker 3: Incredible scenes. This is a movement that's supposed to be

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Speaker 3: inclusive and tolerant. Did you feel welcome?

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Speaker 12: I did not feel welcome, as is obvious from that video.

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Speaker 12: The thing is we also were assaulted in multiple different

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Speaker 12: events during that Pride weekend in Washington, DC, and the

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Speaker 12: same thing happened in New York city. The thing is.

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Speaker 12: I also was warned in advance by the FBI and

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Speaker 12: other organizations in the United States that agitators were planning

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Speaker 12: on disrupting Pride events in more than one hundred cities

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Speaker 12: across the United States. I don't believe that anybody should

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Speaker 12: be allowed to stop our pride, to stop us from

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Speaker 12: presenting ourselves being who we are. That's part of what

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Speaker 12: living in a democracy is about. But I've seen these

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Speaker 12: factions within the LGBTQ movement grow and increase, and I've

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Speaker 12: been waiving that red flag for a long time, and sadly,

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Speaker 12: I've been heavily ignored. And that's why we're seeing what

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Speaker 12: we're seeing right now, with the Lgbtqia Plus movement having

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Speaker 12: gone to some mind twisting extremes.

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Speaker 3: Mind twisting. Indeed, the whole hostility towards Israel and the

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Speaker 3: Jewish people for members of that community is bizarre. It's

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Speaker 3: bordering on suicidely stupid when Israel is the only place

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Speaker 3: in the Middle East where that community enjoys rights, equal rights.

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Speaker 3: I noticed nobody has taken up the New Tolerance Campaigns

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Speaker 3: offer of a million dollars to hold Ay Pride March

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Speaker 3: in Gaza or the West Bank. It will be be

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Speaker 3: unthinkable to have any sort of event celebrating the community

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Speaker 3: in those parts of the world other than in Israel.

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Speaker 12: Look, you're speaking the truth. Israel is the only country

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Speaker 12: in the Middle East that protects lgbtqia plus rights and

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Speaker 12: every other letter you wish to add to this movement.

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Speaker 12: Israel is the only country in the Middle East that

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Speaker 12: provides asylum for people for Arabs who wish to flee

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Speaker 12: their countries and move into Israel so they can still

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Speaker 12: speak Arabic, so they can still be around other Arabs

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Speaker 12: and Arab Israelis in order to be safe. The same

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Speaker 12: thing goes for women's rates. So look, I'm an equal

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Speaker 12: opportunity supporter and an equal opportunity critic. If somebody from

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Speaker 12: my own liberal, progressive LGBTQ movements is doing things that's

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Speaker 12: against the values of these movements, then I'm going to

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Speaker 12: speak out about it. And I've been speaking out about

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Speaker 12: these issues starting in twenty sixteen, when I started to

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Speaker 12: see more and more manipulation entering the LGBTQ space. In

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Speaker 12: twenty sixteen, people used to go to the LGBTQ conferences

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Speaker 12: When I would speak at when I would be speaking

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Speaker 12: one of the keynote speakers at a conference, and they'd

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Speaker 12: hand out free shirts and free mugs and the free buttons,

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Speaker 12: all the things we see. And they'd have people who'd

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Speaker 12: walk there with a kafia and wrap it around somebody's

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Speaker 12: neck and say, oh, here's a kafia. It's a symbol

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Speaker 12: of resistance against any form of oppression. And that's all

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Speaker 12: they did. So all of a sudden, they started to

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Speaker 12: create these little symbols that people would recognize and say, oh,

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Speaker 12: that person is wearing a beautiful scarf, then we must

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Speaker 12: be the same. Is that all that it takes with

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Speaker 12: catchy nursery, rhyme, slogans that rhymes to manipulate these people

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Speaker 12: to believe that Hamas is an organization that an LGBTQ

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Speaker 12: person should support, or Hezbollah or the or Iran. It

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Speaker 12: doesn't make.

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Speaker 3: Sense, does not make sense. And that anti Israeli sentiment

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Speaker 3: we saw the Pride Marcher has extended into Hollywood increasingly,

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Speaker 3: something you've pointed out. You know, Hollywood champions the left's causes,

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Speaker 3: and this appears to be another one now and it's

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Speaker 3: also in the music industry, in entertainment industry, in general.

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Speaker 3: Most recently, rapper Macklemore launched into a tirade against Israel

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Speaker 3: and America at a concert raising money for anwar.

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Speaker 15: Have a listen, Yeah, America, October seventh happens, and I

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Speaker 15: start paying attention, and I start, I started learning. I

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Speaker 15: started listening. I start, I start going back and learning

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Speaker 15: the history this issue that was deemed so complicated. It's

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Speaker 15: a genocide, absolutely, and it has been since nineteen forty eight.

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Speaker 15: Don't get it twisted.

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Speaker 12: Don't get it incredible.

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Speaker 3: To me that he admits to only really being interested

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Speaker 3: in this issue after October seven, but he looked at

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Speaker 3: the slaughter of innocent Israelis in their homes at a

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Speaker 3: music festival and decided they were to blame. It's as I.

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Speaker 12: Said, truly, or it's bewildering, just as you stated, and

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Speaker 12: as he stated himself, including in his other speeches that

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Speaker 12: he's been giving since October seventh, where he actually says

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Speaker 12: the words that he didn't know anything about the situation.

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Speaker 12: He didn't know anything about what's happening in the Middle

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Speaker 12: East until October seventh, and he's only recently learning about it. Wonderful.

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Speaker 12: That is absolutely a person that we should be listening

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Speaker 12: to a rapper who says that he doesn't know anything

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Speaker 12: about the situation, but he knows how he feels. What

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Speaker 12: we're seeing is the progressive left, which is far too

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Speaker 12: focused on this oppressor, oppressed narrative, even though so many

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Speaker 12: of us talk about being non binary. They're focused on

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Speaker 12: binary thinking a light and dark and they've learned false

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Speaker 12: information from non reliable sources, and that the facts are

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Speaker 12: out there from reliable sources. I listen to your show,

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Speaker 12: I listen to what you say, and if I don't

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Speaker 12: agree with everything you say, that makes me more excited,

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Speaker 12: because maybe you'll change my mind, maybe I will change

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Speaker 12: somebody else's mind. That's what this should be about. But

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Speaker 12: they are canceling anybody who disagrees with them. They're forcing

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Speaker 12: facts to fit their opinions, as opposed to shaping their

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Speaker 12: opinions based on facts. Here's something that will bother you

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Speaker 12: more than all of the other things that bother you

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Speaker 12: that you speak about. Ninety seven percent of people under

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Speaker 12: the age of forty five receive their news and world

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Speaker 12: information from TikTok and Instagram.

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Speaker 3: Well, this is a problem, and we see what trends there,

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Speaker 3: we see what's promoted particularly on TikTok, and I don't

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Speaker 3: believe it's all organic there. They determine what is allowed

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Speaker 3: to trend and what's suppressed, and it's very dangerous time.

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Speaker 3: But I applaud you and the work you do, very brave. Indeed,

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Speaker 3: you've all David, thank you so much for your time

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Speaker 3: this evening.

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Speaker 12: The feeling is mutual. I applaud you for everything that

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Speaker 12: you're doing. You're a voice of reason and a voice

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Speaker 12: of truth, and I will do everything to help spread

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Speaker 12: that truth so people can learn and do the right thing.

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Speaker 3: That's it from me. I'll see at eleven tomorrow with

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Speaker 3: Kelly J. Keen Up. Next is Newsnight.