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Speaker 1: Angus Sampson, Welcome into the studio.

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Speaker 2: I think he wants me to be mad Max.

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Speaker 3: Ice by Ice the Autobiography of Vanilla Ice, and these

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Speaker 3: cameras are.

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Speaker 2: On, Professor I make bags out of your spritos.

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Speaker 1: Angers Sampson, Welcome into the studio. Mate, pretty high production.

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Speaker 4: In hereops, I don't know if you're used to these

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Speaker 4: big sort of production sets.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've never worked with a zebra before.

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Speaker 5: Yeah that's Glenn. He's twenty. Smells good. Jesus Gabriel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that is Peter Gabriel. Jack was just saying he

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Speaker 1: heard you say you listen to the Family podcast as well.

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Speaker 2: Why I didn't know it exists existed?

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Speaker 3: And my mate Griff who MJ's Mett, told me, oh,

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Speaker 3: you've got to listen to this amazing podcast.

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Speaker 2: And I live in America and Australia, and when I'm

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Speaker 2: in America, I try to listen to American podcasts when

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Speaker 2: I'm trying and listen to ours.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, I came out to us and put it on

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Speaker 3: and I was I was actually outraged and how good

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Speaker 3: it was.

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Speaker 1: But it makes you angry, you know, I like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know when you look at there are people who can

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Speaker 3: there are people who can share their private life. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'll say it on Twitter or something like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: I have friends with millions of dogs, millions of followers,

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Speaker 3: and they post like seventeen pictures of the same thing,

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Speaker 3: and I look at them and I'm like, what, who

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Speaker 3: are you posting for? Why are you so needy? And

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Speaker 3: then I might tweet something just taking the dog for

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Speaker 3: a walk, and someone will be like, is that an euphemism?

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Speaker 2: I think we delete it? Oh my god, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think I I'm I think I'm

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Speaker 3: worried too much about what people think and care, and

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Speaker 3: so you know, when I tuned into that, I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, who is this Trish? And how is how come she?

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Speaker 3: Where's she come from? How come she's leading the chats

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Speaker 3: and what have you. But ironically, I think that's probably

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Speaker 3: why I like it. It's less white males talking, and

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Speaker 3: I always appreciate it. Whenever Jack, you know the silent

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Speaker 3: what is it from Penninella?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yes he is. Solon As.

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Speaker 2: Comes in. He's like the Dali Lama.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's like a silent monk. You don't hear from

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Speaker 4: him for like five weeks and then eventually he'll just

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Speaker 4: add some just a tiny piece of gold into it.

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Speaker 2: But how many podcasts do you need? How many podcasts?

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Speaker 5: Sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Don't know?

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Speaker 5: Sixteen is the magic number.

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Speaker 1: Sty There's more, There's more and more coming as well.

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Speaker 4: Hey, yeah, I wanted to ask you before we get

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Speaker 4: into into your life, your career, you and Matthew. I

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Speaker 4: was doing a bit of research yesterday on yourself all

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Speaker 4: your past roles. I didn't realize you were both in

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Speaker 4: Footy Legends together.

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Speaker 2: That was an Australian film.

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Speaker 3: I think they shot that in two thousand and three and.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was come out two thousand and six,

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Speaker 1: so it would have been shot in two thousand and three.

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Speaker 2: Or maybe it was two thousand and four.

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Speaker 3: And it was made by the former Young Australian of

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Speaker 3: the Year Quad, brother of Ann and that was Vietnamese.

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Speaker 2: Refugees and Qua was doing a lot of work around

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Speaker 3: Ended up making writing this film with his brother and

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Speaker 3: they had Claudia Carbon in it and it was like

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Speaker 3: a football film that I was like, oh, I'd love

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Speaker 3: to you know, because I grew up loving footy and

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Speaker 3: I'd love to sort of combine the two and like

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Speaker 3: apparently they're getting excellent football, you know, real rugby league

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Speaker 3: players involved to play and like all stars. And it culminates.

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Speaker 3: The film culminates with a bunch of battlers. If you

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Speaker 3: look at it now, it's so disbelievable. With a bunch

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Speaker 3: We don't even have a full team of sevens.

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Speaker 6: It was like they It was funny because when me

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Speaker 6: and Vossi turned up to do the commentary or Vossi

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Speaker 6: and I thank you for correct.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to made bad grammar.

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Speaker 3: And U s with ken Oh yeah, I don't know,

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Speaker 6: And they were really nervous because they someone had told

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Speaker 6: them that I was quite loose and you know, I

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Speaker 6: don't know, but they were like, oh.

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Speaker 5: You know, so I want.

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Speaker 6: They were tippy toeing around me a little bit. And

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Speaker 6: we done what we did one scene and the boom

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Speaker 6: we'll just do that again. The boom dropped in and

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Speaker 6: I said, no, no, leave it in. I said, the

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Speaker 6: audience will appreciate it, will go to show me you

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Speaker 6: don't take ours was too serious. And they both looked

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Speaker 6: at each other and went, oh, yeah, good point.

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Speaker 3: I said, no, it was the players they had basically

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Speaker 3: was a tournament too. I guess maybe salvage or say

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Speaker 3: play their way out of their lower as socio economic situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I can't recall, but it culminates with playing the I

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Speaker 3: guess the opposite of the Uga schooners, which were like

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Speaker 3: maybe I don't know, the double Baby Dolphins or something

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Speaker 3: you had and.

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Speaker 6: We had Brett Kenny, Brett, Kenny, Bradley, Clyde, Cliffy Lins.

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Speaker 2: Rod Wishart was in it, rocket right.

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Speaker 3: I saw him two weeks ago at the Melbourne from

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Speaker 3: Lighthart V at Tiger's V Storm.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and he beautiful.

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Speaker 3: Man came up, came up and say gooday, and said,

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Speaker 3: you wouldn't believe how many people come up to me and.

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Speaker 2: Talk about you.

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Speaker 5: Live with his young bloke Tyrant.

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Speaker 2: Become friends with his brother cal Callum. Yes, lovely cow.

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Speaker 1: He's a good man.

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Speaker 2: I went down to visit the he's involved with the

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Speaker 2: Better Beer. Oh yes, we have with Foux and Steely

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Speaker 2: from the Inspired Unemployed.

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Speaker 3: I went down to the Sacond eight of them one

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Speaker 3: time last year to Mick cron and Oval at Jerringong.

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Speaker 2: And I never never seen like local league played by

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Speaker 2: adults and I couldn't believe the sound of the guys sick.

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Speaker 2: And is that the same for NRL? Is that do

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Speaker 2: they make those noises?

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Speaker 6: You know what it is and of course you, of

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Speaker 6: course you removed a fair bit away from the crowd.

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Speaker 6: But I'm with you when I watched the local football

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Speaker 6: and you know that you're right there.

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Speaker 5: Make the sound of the crunching. It was funny if you.

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Speaker 6: I was talking about this the other day Jim Jeffries,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's how linked there.

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Speaker 6: He was one radio and he goes your old man Gary,

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Speaker 5: So yeah hees my dad.

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Speaker 6: My mum dated your old man when they were young.

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Speaker 5: And he went, so it's your old man. She said, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: He talks about that.

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Speaker 5: Inappropriate.

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Speaker 6: So he got in touch with me. He said, listen,

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Speaker 6: the real Australia. He said, Madde, can you organize a

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Speaker 6: on the sideline to show what it's like. So we

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Speaker 6: lined up the narrow Been sharks and the Cromer kingfishes

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Speaker 6: and we're going to sit on the side and commentate.

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Speaker 6: There was a COVID breakout, another one, another wave that

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Speaker 6: been like I can only imagine when the Americans were

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Speaker 3: The thing with the footing legends was that I had

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Speaker 3: actually tried to play football for I don't want to

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Speaker 3: say career, but I guess it was sort of the

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Speaker 3: only thing I did, the only activity I did. And

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Speaker 3: so word had filtered down from we filmed it Saint

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Speaker 3: Mary's in there, which is in the west of Sydney

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Speaker 3: for your international listeners.

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Speaker 2: Listener, we have a large base.

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Speaker 3: And word filtered down to the set that apparently Matthew

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Speaker 3: had said about me, Oh this kid can play.

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Speaker 2: That was the exact words. I've never forgotten it. After

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Speaker 3: We sort of had sort of like they called it,

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Speaker 2: Going to put a shot on him, just because they

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Speaker 2: failed me. And I just did my best, like Tan

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Speaker 2: Margot like that and jammed and I kid you not.

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Speaker 2: At the last minute. I guess it's called putting up

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Speaker 3: I just lifted his elbow and I literally I think

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Speaker 2: I was like Simon Dwyer.

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Speaker 3: Just like on camera, all my all my lifelong dreams

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Speaker 6: Elbow, the cork in the shoulder or the bye of.

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Speaker 4: The stinger and it just vibrates all the way down

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Speaker 2: But it was a lovely, lovely experience.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that was twenty orded years ago. And now

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Speaker 3: I'm filming with Claudia again. I'm in Australia filming a

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Speaker 3: series called Bump for Stan which we're shooting our fifth

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Speaker 1: What's that about Bump.

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Speaker 3: It's a story of a teenage girl who has a

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Speaker 2: It was during COVID.

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Speaker 3: It's the first time I worked in Australia since we

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Speaker 3: did the what's called Pickups from mad Max Ferry Road

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Speaker 3: like seven years earlier, and so it was during COVID.

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Speaker 3: So I actually had to do two weeks quarantine to

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Speaker 3: go on to do the show Bump. And I was

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Speaker 3: traveling from a farm in Victoria to Sydney and they

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Speaker 3: said would you do quarantine?

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Speaker 2: I was like sure, So they said we might be

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Speaker 3: So I go to Sydney, get to Sydney Airport, places

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Speaker 3: deserted army Army soldiered camouflaged dudes and has kem suits.

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Speaker 3: We were seated five meters apart at the luggage carousel

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 2: It was just a bit of a vein, coarse vain

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Speaker 1: No, that went straight over my head.

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Speaker 3: And so we lived in a house that was built

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Speaker 3: And and a lot of rising damp, which might explain

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Speaker 6: But your dad to psychiatrists bring their work home.

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Speaker 3: You'd have to think so, wouldn't you. He's fairly he's

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Speaker 3: in Sydney. There were days when you know, you didn't

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Speaker 6: That's interesting, guess because a lot of doctors now doctors,

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Speaker 5: How to deal.

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Speaker 6: With people, break bad news or to work with them,

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Speaker 6: to show empathy, but to not allow their problems to

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Speaker 6: but to still how to keep that distance.

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Speaker 2: Is that something so they can see? Is that something

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Speaker 2: they can they see it.

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Speaker 6: Happen or.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It's yeah, But like you know, sitting down with a

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Speaker 5: It's very difficult.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's a very good listener, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: I grew up loving Mark War.

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Speaker 5: I love Mark War two.

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Speaker 2: Although I recently learned that Steve Wall was at West

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Speaker 2: I was. He used to say to Dad, Oh he's

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Speaker 2: just not like but like you see good? Is he? Like?

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Speaker 2: Is he the best? And trying to get dad to

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Speaker 6: And I see him at Fox Sports quote regularly. He's junior,

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Speaker 6: Hi about something I minut is something like you know

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Speaker 5: Respond five.

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Speaker 6: And then he came back and gaves, I was just

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Speaker 6: thinking about what you said. He said, fucking stupid.

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Speaker 5: What what the what?

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Speaker 6: What the could you say that? I don't know, It's

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Speaker 6: just it was just my opinion, and you spark my memory.

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Speaker 6: Like Steve, remember the day you hit the four on

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Speaker 2: I went to it.

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Speaker 6: I was there as well, Angus, But I tell you

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Speaker 6: went up and said, hey, hey, Gucci, how you going

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Speaker 6: and I said, Graham, I'm I'm just I'm a I'm

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Speaker 6: actually be completely shitting yourself right? And he went, fuck you, mate,

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Speaker 6: and I went said, nah, fuck you. So any security

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Speaker 6: coming through me out? And I said, and I said,

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Speaker 6: this is someone. I said, what happened? I said, I mate,

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Speaker 6: I've got an argument with Graham Goose. So I said,

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Speaker 6: hearing you know, Kerry out Coop talking about this amazing

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Speaker 5: God, Oh, thank you Graham Gooch.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought that Graham Gooch looked a lot like

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Speaker 5: He did Mark, And now that's the name I have

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Speaker 2: I think he was the last unranked individual to win

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Speaker 3: Right right.

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Speaker 6: I think maybe he's one of those blokes market He

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Speaker 2: If you don't know, oh you wouldn't know that. He

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Speaker 2: bed Hills. Yeah. So I'm trying to get dad to

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Speaker 2: commit to some some an opinion. Yeah, and I say,

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Speaker 2: but he's really he said, well, he's good enough to

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Speaker 1: He must be, all right, How did your parents go?

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Speaker 4: Because your parents obviously going into like nursing and doctor

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Speaker 4: too strong professions, how do they feel about you wanting to.

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Speaker 1: Be an actor? Because it's it's one of those professions

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Speaker 1: it's very obviously hard to make.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know, well, I didn't know it was a

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Speaker 3: A profession now, Like I I think, I think there's

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Speaker 3: it's hard to be an actor, like you know, I mean,

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Speaker 6: Do you get do you get when you do a role. Okay,

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Speaker 6: the movie is about to come out, do you do

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Speaker 6: you get apprehensive?

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Speaker 5: Are you? Are you thin skinned?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 5: And I asked that question respectively.

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Speaker 2: No, no, But I mean it's you grow up. I have.

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Speaker 2: Everyone has adolescent baggage.

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Speaker 3: And you know, having an older sister, I would see

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Speaker 3: be like, your nails are disgusting, or cut your tone,

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Speaker 3: whatever it is, those things that you sort of hold

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it's the same if you with you guys

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Speaker 3: But you know, it's my favorite part of any production,

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Speaker 3: of any project I'm.

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Speaker 2: Involved here is.

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Speaker 3: It's before it ever comes out to the public. You've

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Speaker 3: cast or you were the director and we were shooting

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Speaker 3: in I don't know, Bowen, Queensland or something, or in Santiago,

445
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 3: Chile and we're from Australia.

446
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 2: Instead of going home to our wife boyfriend, you know.

447
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 3: You actually with one another, guess like and so I

448
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 3: guess it may have been like when you're doing COVID

449
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 3: for the NRL stuff or on tour the Great Britain

450
00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 3: tours that they talk about, and I realized that that's

451
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: everything I've been.

452
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:16,920
Speaker 2: Craving since a kid.

453
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: Is that sort of inie and camaraderie and boys seem

454
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Speaker 3: to talk about it, footballers seem to talk about it,

455
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 3: or I've heard you talk about it with Gary with

456
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: your father about your father missing the comaraderie. In the

457
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: mind afterwards, it's you know, you just want endorsement.

458
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 2: We just want endorsement that our instincts are correct.

459
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 3: So with filming, it's very love it's a lovely thing

460
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Speaker 3: to be asked to come and create and perform.

461
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: That's a very exciting.

462
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: Thing for actors to go, I've got a callback or

463
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Speaker 3: you know I've got the job, or you know I'm

464
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Speaker 3: going to Argentina to film. And then when it's often

465
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 3: the same actors are like, yeah, I just did this,

466
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 3: Like you're always sort of proving that your career choice

467
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: is a good one, or that you're busy, or that

468
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 3: you're worth something, And so am I thin skin sure,

469
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm much happier to talk about you than me. This

470
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: is a thing for me where I must have been

471
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 3: asked to over two hundred podcasts, and after you, after

472
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 3: you asked me to do one with Coops and it

473
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 3: was new, I thought, oh, yeah I should. If I

474
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Speaker 3: do it with people I like, then it's not really

475
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: a podcast. Obviously, after this, am my thin skin, I'll

476
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: be like, shit, I can't believe I said that. Well

477
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: that was worrying, or can you take that out? Do

478
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Speaker 3: we really need to hear from a middle aged white guy?

479
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Speaker 2: You know? It's that's the reality of it. The thing

480
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 2: for me that made me excited to come here today

481
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: was I wanted to ask you guys questions. So am

482
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Speaker 2: I thins again? Absolutely? Yeah.

483
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Speaker 6: We all say it's copping criticism, accepting criticism. Is it

484
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 6: takes time, you know, it takes after a certain period

485
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Speaker 6: of time to actually not take it personally. You know,

486
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 6: talk about age, you know, and you're pushing towards fifty.

487
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 6: I've gone over the edge of fifty and people say you.

488
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Speaker 5: Have to be young again. Oh, I'd hate to be

489
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Speaker 5: in my twenties again. Like yeah, I like because I

490
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Speaker 5: because at this.

491
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Speaker 6: Age now, I've worked life out. I think I have

492
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Speaker 6: Who knows when I'm in the sixties I might look back,

493
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 6: but I feel I've worked life out and everything just

494
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Speaker 6: sort of on the teftline.

495
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Speaker 5: Everything falls off me. It doesn't matter what people say

496
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Speaker 5: to me, doesn't matter.

497
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Speaker 6: It's not that I don't care, it just doesn't impact me.

498
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Speaker 3: But why when you say you work something out, what

499
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: did you work out? Or is it you experience something?

500
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Speaker 6: I experienced something, and I there are certain I remember,

501
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 6: I've been through things that you would think are completely

502
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 6: the worst thing could happen in your life, all your

503
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 6: fears right. And I remember walking with my great Irish

504
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Speaker 6: mate and we're walking along and it was a horrible time,

505
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 6: horrific and he turned to me and said, maybe you okay,

506
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 6: and I said, you won't believe this, but I am.

507
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 6: And I thought, I thought, you know, it just shows

508
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 6: you what you can endure. And once I went through

509
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 6: that and got through that, I was like, fuck you

510
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 6: just get out there and live your life. Just go

511
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 6: for it, because if I get you know, you just

512
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 6: know the things that you fear most, you get through it,

513
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 6: you'll come through the other side.

514
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Speaker 5: It'll be okay.

515
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 2: Well you.

516
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Speaker 3: That my questions, you know, some of them are like

517
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Speaker 3: I guess you cover what you see that's we have

518
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: no choice.

519
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: You're not saying you want.

520
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 3: To be bashed by somebody if that if you grew

521
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 3: up in a terrible house with violence. But if you're

522
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: watching things, you want to see yourself on screen. If

523
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 3: you're watching your mum play footy, I want to do

524
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 3: that too, whatever whatever that is. So but you're just

525
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: not sure if it's the right choice or what's important.

526
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Speaker 3: I know, for me, I'm much better at work than

527
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 3: I am at home. That's yeah, that's uh, you know

528
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 3: that's probably because I I'm good at I think I'm

529
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 3: a good dinner table guest.

530
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Speaker 2: I can you know, I can tell you some anecdotes

531
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: that aren't about me.

532
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: Is the anger? Is the anger?

533
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 4: Samson at work? A completely different man at home? Like

534
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 4: are you you know when you get home? Are you

535
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: completely different bloke than when you're in front in a crowd,

536
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 4: like a lot of energy at home?

537
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know people always joke about it, I

538
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 3: hate people or whatever.

539
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: But you know, sometimes if I'm walking down the street

540
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Speaker 2: with family and my nursyllabic or and someone bumps.

541
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 3: Into us, it's suddenly you go up to nine. I

542
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: think it's true with anyone, then you they walk off.

543
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: Who was that? I'm absolutely no.

544
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: Idea, and then it's become on a slabic again.

545
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: But it's I have a great life. I don't don't

546
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: for a minute think that I'm you.

547
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: Know, struggling, you know, outside of places that other people

548
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: aren't struggling.

549
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 5: We're not working in a salt mine.

550
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: That's right. You know, I feel very grateful.

551
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: I live in California for at least half the year,

552
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: usually about nine months a year, and I have a

553
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: farm in Victoria that I try to get back to.

554
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: Bought it off the internet without ever having gone there,

555
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: never seen it from a hotel room in stab City.

556
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 5: Oh yeah wow.

557
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: And you know that those are the things where you

558
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: sort of go what all I wanted was to be

559
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: on Game of Thrones, for example, Yeah, that's not, but

560
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 3: just as a reference, why am I on that?

561
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 2: I've got a good head for that sort of you.

562
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: Know, swords and sandals and.

563
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 6: Ladies and gentleman punch of pilot.

564
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: Take you testiculous and so and so.

565
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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where you know, I firmly

566
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 3: believe what what are you doing about it?

567
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 2: Is?

568
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: What my version of is. I wanted to do that

569
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: or what are you doing about? Other people might say

570
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: manifestation is the key, or other people might say, you know,

571
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 3: I was going to be an actor once, or I wanted.

572
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: To be a danc or a director.

573
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 3: So I ended up getting a letter one day from

574
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: the guy who wrote Game of Thrones asked me to

575
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: be the lead villain in a not that they call

576
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: a lead villain, but the follow up to.

577
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Speaker 2: The show in Europe. It was all I wanted, was

578
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: like to.

579
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Be vindicated as a performer in Europe as an actor

580
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Speaker 3: and not have to audition to boot.

581
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 2: You know, you get there.

582
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 3: And you're like, this is amazing, it's amazing, and then

583
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 3: these things start creeping in like that you indulge, you off,

584
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: You're like, wow, this is a shit script.

585
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow that. I spent twenty eighteen days in Limerick.

586
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 2: First eighteen days the.

587
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,239
Speaker 3: Sun came out for twenty minutes and I was like,

588
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 3: looking out my penthouse apartment, there were suicide patrols walking

589
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 3: the bridges, three bridges of the Shannon River, twelve of them.

590
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: I would come home, I'd leave work, leave for work

591
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 3: before the sun wherever it was, came up, come home

592
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 3: after the sun had gone down.

593
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: I have to learn my line. So the next day

594
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: I'd take them down cups of tea, you know, midnight

595
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: chat to them.

596
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: Highest rate of suicide in per capita in Europe is Ireland.

597
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm like that, what am I?

598
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like what it impacts you?

599
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: You're like, what am I worried about?

600
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 6: Before we talk about some of the roles, I've going

601
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 6: to say, I really enjoyed some of your radio work.

602
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 6: Used to occasionally go on Get This with the great

603
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 6: Tony Martin of Martin Malloy fame. The other thing I

604
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 6: used to listen. I used to listen you had this,

605
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 6: You had this show, late night radio show on the.

606
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: A b C.

607
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 5: The Lonely Hearts Club, Lonely Hearts Club. I used to

608
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 5: love I used to love.

609
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: It, The Lonely Hearts Club. Coops was a radio show

610
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: that came up with and got Radio National Australia to

611
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: agree that I was allowed to do it anonymously.

612
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 5: Rich and Silk.

613
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 3: With Andrew Denton, Tony Martin and all these people that

614
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 3: I had loved Sampang, I still love them, Steve Curry

615
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: and it was a it was a men's group radio

616
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 3: on Saturday nights. All around Australia and we but but

617
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: they couldn't tell anyone that it was us that was

618
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: the I can't believe that they agreed to it. The

619
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: Green Guy organized to organize the photo shoot for the

620
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: cover of the Green Guy in the broadsheet newspapers. I

621
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 3: got three of my mates, Horse Spency and robbing him

622
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: alone to pretend to be breakfast radio sort of trio.

623
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Speaker 2: I must have been asked eight hundred times to do

624
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: radio in my life, must have been and whenever I

625
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 2: had no money, I'm gone, I should have done it.

626
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: But this was a This was a late night show

627
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 3: where basically, as part of the premise was we had

628
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: all met at the home of Sexual Men so.

629
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: At Hosum.

630
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 3: Homosexual Man, and were part of our final step we'd

631
00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: been wronged by females or found ourselves alone surprisingly and

632
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: part of our yeah, so I guess migration back into

633
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 3: society and dating and.

634
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: Was to share our stories and tales.

635
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 3: Of woe and we would have experts come in. I

636
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: had a friend who grew up in Tahiti, Matthew Tripp's

637
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 3: sister actually from the storm, Tina Hello.

638
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Who was voice a character named Matilde, and it was.

639
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: The segment was, I guess it's a bit like you

640
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 3: what some of your shows where the intros and outros

641
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 3: are longer than.

642
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: The actual.

643
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: Actual substance on the section, and it was pillow talk

644
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 3: with Matilde and so what the idea was to spice

645
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 3: up things in your sex life? And she would see

646
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 3: she would say something in French and then give the

647
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 3: and give the English translation.

648
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 2: And it was one a week. And it turns out

649
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: that everything.

650
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 3: She said like you'd hear her say something in friends,

651
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 3: You're like, well, that sounds sexy. And then the music

652
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: would stop and the translation was where is the nearest

653
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: atm It was all to do with paying for sex?

654
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 2: And then we would have cooks come in and give us.

655
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Recipes to make it home. They genuinely do it, but

656
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: we would we would.

657
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: Try not to laugh. You know. It was produced by

658
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: Nicky Hamilton.

659
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: And and and Pots and bands who does who?

660
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: Maddie who does get this? And Sizzle Town.

661
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 3: Stuff now, And it was a great privilege to do that,

662
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: you know, it was it was just a play. And

663
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,439
Speaker 3: Andrew Dent said to me, he said, you know, thank

664
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 3: you so much for this invitation. I've just never I've

665
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Speaker 3: never been able to play for such a long time

666
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Speaker 3: to come on very liberating, you know that it wasn't Andrew.

667
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Speaker 3: You didn't have to watch his p's and q's. How

668
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Speaker 3: it would work is I'd invite so Maddie onto the

669
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Speaker 3: show and I just give you your name and your occupation.

670
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Speaker 2: So for Andrew, he was Wesley DeShawn and he was

671
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Speaker 2: a poet. Yeah, and then he turned up. That was it. Panging.

672
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Speaker 2: I think Panging. I think Pangy was. I think he was.

673
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Speaker 3: Maybe no, that that was Cousin, but Pangy was someone

674
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Speaker 3: like a choreographer, you know, like Lucas Dawson was Steve

675
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: Curry and Tony Martin was the second unit director. So

676
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Speaker 3: you just it was just it's just a thing that

677
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: we're trying not to laugh. We play music, a lot

678
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Speaker 3: of it yout rock and it was a number one

679
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Speaker 3: podcast in Australia on health.

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Speaker 6: Really in the Health, in the Health CAAG Yeah, Angus

681
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Speaker 6: mad Max working with the great George Miller.

682
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Speaker 5: What type of guy's George?

683
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Speaker 2: He's a hero. Yeah, he's a hero. Before he even

684
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 2: got into filmmaking, I think grew up in rural Queensland,

685
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: twin Greek migrant yeah, I don't want to tell his story, but.

686
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: Anyone who works in I guess in America we call

687
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 3: them first responders, but health and care, medical industries and

688
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 3: what have you. He studied medicine at Union in South

689
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 3: Wales with his twin brother, became a doctor, was doing

690
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 3: his rounds down in Melbourne and made the first mad

691
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: Max after seeing a lot of being called to roadside accidents,

692
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 3: you know when they didn't have to have seat belts

693
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 3: or people didn't wear seat belts, and.

694
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Speaker 2: So that already is an interesting enough you know, hundred

695
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Speaker 2: different lives lives.

696
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 3: But I I went to I grew up in I

697
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: went to school in Armadale, northern New South Wales, and

698
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: I made of mine Simon Desh, and he loved He's

699
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: from Lightning Ridge. He he loved Mad Max and he

700
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: we we could watch videos on the weekends. I was

701
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: at boarding school up there, and you could get a

702
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 3: new release or and a weekly and he would just

703
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 3: get every weekly was.

704
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Speaker 6: Mad Max you st jode your sparks and memories about

705
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 6: the overnights, the two nights or the weekly.

706
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Speaker 5: Anyway, Yeah, and.

707
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 3: Some of these references and so and so he would

708
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: get Mad Max every Week, made in nineteen seventy nine,

709
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: set an anarchy road like sort of a dystopian future.

710
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: It just opens with a few years from now. Yeah, and.

711
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 3: I didn't realize it was an Australian film. I just

712
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: remember that was the moment where I was like, hold on,

713
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: they make films in Australia. Ironically, the first ever feature film,

714
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: Coops in the World, was an Australian film about Ned Kelly,

715
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: and so I was like, oh, wait, this is a thing.

716
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: I still didn't know you could be an actor or

717
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 3: a creative for a job, because I didn't consider myself either.

718
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: But seeing George in the flesh for the first time.

719
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Speaker 3: Years and years later, I did a film called Kakoda,

720
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Speaker 3: and I'd heard that he might be making a new

721
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: Mad Max and one of the assistant directors was his assistant,

722
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Speaker 3: and I said.

723
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Speaker 2: To him worked on Mount Tambourine.

724
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Speaker 3: I said, mate, if they need anything, I'll park cars valet,

725
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: whatever you want, I'll do it. Of course, he was

726
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: just as enthused about getting the gig as anyone else,

727
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: and nothing happened. Years and years later I auditioned for

728
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Speaker 3: George for this Justice League that was proposed. Armie Hammer

729
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Speaker 3: is Batman, Megan Gaale, Wonder Woman.

730
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Speaker 2: Ah. That was sort of like early yep. D C.

731
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Speaker 2: Day's pre Marvel.

732
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Speaker 5: And I did this audition.

733
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Speaker 2: For the Great Nikki Barrett and I can't remember what

734
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: I did, but at the end I was like, oh,

735
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Speaker 2: and thank you for Mad Max or whatever you going

736
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Speaker 2: to write it there.

737
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Speaker 3: A couple of years there was a strike, write a strike,

738
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Speaker 3: and the film never happened. A couple of years later,

739
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Speaker 3: I get asked to audition and I'm like, I don't

740
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Speaker 3: know what this is, but it's for George again, so

741
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Speaker 3: I think it's for I think it's for Justice League

742
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Speaker 3: what George does, and I hope I'm sure he doesn't mine. Normally,

743
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Speaker 3: when you auditioned for something Coops, they might give you

744
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: a scene from the from the screenplay, unless you're Matthew Johnson,

745
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 3: and you just get to walk on.

746
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Speaker 5: And spread the telling around it and so and.

747
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: So people get it and they go, oh, this is

748
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: my character. There's a scene in which my character features.

749
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to give They don't usually give you the

750
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Speaker 3: whole screenplay, espectainly in later stages of my career. They

751
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 3: it's sort of like a privilege for you to get

752
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 3: more access to that stuff. So I try to audition

753
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 3: now because I don't. I don't feel good about myself,

754
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 3: you know, for a long time. And so especially if

755
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: they don't give you as much information as they can,

756
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: you're like, well, ill you know anyway, And so George

757
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: what he does with his team is that he'll give

758
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 3: you a selection of scenes and they've just they've been

759
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: amended somewhat so not for copyright, and you get to

760
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Speaker 3: choose which one you want to choose.

761
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 2: One of them is like the Who's.

762
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Speaker 3: On first sequence? Another one was like a two hander.

763
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Speaker 3: One's got three beeple in it. There's a monologue and

764
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 3: they say it interests us which monologue or which scene

765
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 3: you choose and shows us how you like to work

766
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 3: versus this is the scene. Try and get it right.

767
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: And he said something to me while back. He said,

768
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Speaker 3: I'm curious films are so different at the end, but

769
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Speaker 3: when they're at the script form, they're identical.

770
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Speaker 2: They all look the same.

771
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Speaker 3: And so he's always been looking to innovate, I guess,

772
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Speaker 3: or maybe not innovate.

773
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Speaker 2: But anyway, I'll let him tell his story.

774
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: But for me, I chose a monologue that I recognized

775
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: from the film twenty fifth Hour with Ed Norton.

776
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Speaker 2: I love that movie.

777
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 6: Talking about the other day film Seemore often well, I

778
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 6: think it's such an not a Spike Lee movie.

779
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Speaker 5: That makes When I found out he.

780
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Speaker 2: Made, I yeah, did you like Crooklyn?

781
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Speaker 5: Yeah? I did. I really enjoyed very un track and.

782
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Speaker 2: So yes, I did that.

783
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: And at the end end of the audition, they say,

784
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Speaker 3: I'll tell us something that you've never told anyone, and

785
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: I confess I told them something that you know that

786
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 3: had happened to me, and.

787
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: Like a childhood assault that happened I never told anyone.

788
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 2: And the casting ladies director amazing that he was crying.

789
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,919
Speaker 2: I was great. I was like, wow, this, I don't

790
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 2: know why I did that, you know, I just wanted

791
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: to be taken seriously.

792
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: And just as she went to the camera, so I said, oh, actually,

793
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: can I just record a message for George?

794
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: And she's like what I said, Can I just record

795
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 2: a message to George? And she's like sure, And I said,

796
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you for Mad Max

797
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 2: changed my life, my favorite Mad Max. Most people like

798
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 2: Mad Max two aka Road Warrior, but I like Mad

799
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: Max the original, and I don't even call it Mad Max.

800
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: One sat down in the Yu yangs and back as

801
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: marsh and what have you?

802
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: Or near there anyway? I said, can I just say

803
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 3: thank you? And my favorite scene is the is the

804
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 3: featuring the police.

805
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: Chief played by Roger Moore, the character Fee McAfee where

806
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: and I'm saying that I'm stop talking Fee McAfee.

807
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: Where the guy Max Rokotansky's thinking of quitting. And the

808
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 3: guy comes in with a hap tenaie outfit and they're listening.

809
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 3: He has I don't appreciate having to what you say, Brian,

810
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 3: our top pursuit man with candy, and he has goodbye

811
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 3: McAfee and good luck and I do this.

812
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 2: And and then Roger Wardling's over the banister.

813
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: And goes, thanks labertorche, you're a real human beings. If

814
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 3: we're going to get a job, at least at least

815
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: I've got that out of my system.

816
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:46,240
Speaker 5: Is it on with you? Mad Max?

817
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 6: The original he just stands up to this day still

818
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 6: and he's my favorite.

819
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 5: It's so camp he's he's like I tell.

820
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 2: You, he was the only one. Max was the only

821
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: one they got to wear leather. The rest of them

822
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: were in vinyls.

823
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Speaker 6: Well I loved it when he gets it's in your blood, Rosky.

824
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: People need heroes, Max, that's in your blood.

825
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 6: What I hear and made Mad Max three is a masterpiece.

826
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 2: What is Beyond thunder Dome?

827
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Beyond Sunday Dome.

828
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 3: I just well, yeah, I'll tell you something off air

829
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 3: about it, but it's that's some they had some tragedy

830
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: before that.

831
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: And what people don't know around that is there's actually.

832
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 3: Two directors of Beyond Thunderdome. So you notice that there's

833
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 3: a sizable shift.

834
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 6: When when Sorry, that's really interesting because when I watched

835
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 6: it recently, You're right, it looks like halfway through the movie,

836
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 6: it looks like the movie is going to reach its

837
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 6: conclusion and then it just goes again like it.

838
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: Was, Yeah, genius.

839
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Speaker 4: When you found out you got the role? Did he

840
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 4: did George Miller ask you about that part?

841
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 2: I've got to tell you. When you grow up with

842
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 2: ugly parents, I know you got to navigate, you find

843
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: beauty and other things. And so I get a vocal

844
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: to come in to see to meet with doctor George

845
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 2: at his then.

846
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 3: Potts Point offices. It's beautiful, old Art deco movie theater.

847
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: I'm so nervous, and you know, you fork at the

848
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 3: same time. And I walk in and it's all very secretive,

849
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 3: and they take me up to a room and I

850
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: sit down and there's all these miniature models of dystopian

851
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: vehicles that would later feature in Fury Road. Surrounding me

852
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: is like twelve thousand storyboards, so storyboarders.

853
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: For our listeners or your listeners viewers. It's like an

854
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: imagined framing, hand drawn for what they envisaged the shot

855
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: to look like at that particular point.

856
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: And he was he'd done a script basically like a

857
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 3: with his with nicol Lethuris and others, that it was

858
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 3: all storyboards like a graphic novel.

859
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting in there waiting for my hero to arrive,

860
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: and I'm looking around. I'm looking around, and he comes in.

861
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 3: He's like, he says the most complimentary things, things that

862
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 3: I never imagined that he was familiar with, that I

863
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: had done work wise, that I was almost embarrassed to

864
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 3: think even you talking about, you know, the late night

865
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,879
Speaker 3: podcast or whatever the show was called. Afterwards, I go, wow,

866
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 3: you don't believe anyone.

867
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: Knows these things or familiar with these things. He gave it,

868
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 2: he said, now. He handed me the script and he said, now,

869
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: as there's a character in here, i'd love you to

870
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 2: look at see see see, see what you think of it.

871
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: I won't tell you.

872
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: Which one and and and come back to me.

873
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: You know, if you go upstairs and read the screenplay,

874
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: take you about eighty minutes and come back and we'll

875
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: have a chat after you just and so I go stair,

876
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 2: I thank you here, and I'm like wow. And I

877
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 2: start going through the script and there's hardly any.

878
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 3: Written dialogue and it it's just pictures. And as I'm

879
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 3: reading it, I'm like, I think he wants me to

880
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: be mad Max.

881
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 2: That's life, That's.

882
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: That's how I think you're strutting on it.

883
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't need to read the rest

884
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: of it now because the character I playing infuriy and furious.

885
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: There is the organic mechanic. He didn't appear. He appeared

886
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 2: at the start, but it didn't appear until a bit later.

887
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: But I was like, it's Max. Max is the only

888
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: male white character. I'll do it, like, you know. And

889
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: as I'm sort of having this moment, this guy comes

890
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 2: in there. They're making Happy for two at the time, and.

891
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: Great film in itself as well.

892
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: It's the same directive and he knows who I am.

893
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 3: And uh, and so I end up going back downstairs.

894
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: I was like, I cannot wait to tell my friends,

895
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to be mad Max with me. Just you

896
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: know the guy the night riding goes past and instead

897
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 3: of cutting to the putting the gloves on.

898
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: Just just I'll be there.

899
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 4: Uh.

900
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: And so it was a great lesson for me. I

901
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: guess in patience as well.

902
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: I think I was cast in it maybe five years

903
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: before we filmed.

904
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 2: Years before we filmed it.

905
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 3: They were originally going to do it in in Namibia

906
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 3: with Mel Gibson, and then then nine to eleven happened.

907
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: I couldn't get insurance and what have you.

908
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 3: Then they were looking at having Heath Ledger and a

909
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: bunch of others, but we ended up shooting it in

910
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: Namibia because they had two once in a century rains

911
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 3: out at the Monday Monday where they filmed Mad Max two.

912
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: And we did Furiosa there as well, which was very

913
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: exciting to visit those places where.

914
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 6: The first one they were going to film it out

915
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 6: the back of Burke Yeah, and suddenly because out there

916
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 6: it is so dry and red Earth suddenly suddenly they

917
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 6: get this, as he said, this once in a lifetime

918
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 6: Downpaurs and it's lush and too.

919
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so we got to go to Namibia and

920
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 3: South Africa to Cape Town, which is where we shot

921
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: Fury Road.

922
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 2: You know, every film is solving problems.

923
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 6: Tom Hardy at that point, he wasn't a household name

924
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 6: when he got the role. Members and this English at

925
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 6: Tom Hardy, English guy playing Mell's role. But now he's

926
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 6: just about my favorite act at What was he like

927
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 6: and said, he's in an intense guy?

928
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: I guess, so yeah, I mean I have to be

929
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,439
Speaker 3: careful what I say because you know, there's what there's

930
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 3: the stuff that happened, and then there's and there's you know,

931
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: the public perception.

932
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 2: Of it all.

933
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: But fundamentally I had no issues with Tom. There there's

934
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: lots of stories, you know. The thing for Tom like this,

935
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: I asked him after the film because we were We

936
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 3: caught a plane to Calgary once and we sat next

937
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: to each other afterwards. He was doing inception inception inception?

938
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 3: Is that the one where he walked up the mountain

939
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 3: or something? Or what's the snow one?

940
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,959
Speaker 2: Is that? Is that it?

941
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: I think there is amount.

942
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: There with the bear Bear tax leave. That's what he

943
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 2: was He was doing Revenue Inception.

944
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 4: That's a that's with goes inside of his dreams.

945
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: I love that one.

946
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: That's a great movie.

947
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 2: He was doing The Revenant were I was doing Fargo,

948
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: and I asked him about about it all. It was

949
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: after after my vaccine.

950
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 3: He really talked about the weight of expectations of being

951
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: stepping into Mel's role.

952
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 2: And I spoke to George at the premiere of Few

953
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: Road and he said he sat in between.

954
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 3: Tom and Melt at Grandma's Chinese in Hollywood, and he

955
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: said that Mel loved it, was like elbowing him throughout.

956
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 3: And Tom got a lovely compliment from from Mel afterwards.

957
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: So I thought, you know, Cet Charlaise was the hero

958
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 3: in that film. She really was the leader for us,

959
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 3: and you know, she'd sort of have a week off

960
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: and give her house to her make up assistance. The

961
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: tough thing for Tom that I don't think we'll ever

962
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: but was that during that filming. So there was an

963
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: unfortunate incident in a cinema I think in Colorado with

964
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 3: some people who were shot, Yes, unfortunately, and in a

965
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 3: session of the Dark Knight Rises or something whatever, the

966
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: one he's in.

967
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so I believe it was Warner Brothers.

968
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 3: The movie studio sent security guards to everyone, everyone in

969
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 3: the cast, m.

970
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 2: Wherever they were on the planet.

971
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 3: And we were in Schwockman, which is a town in Namibia.

972
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: The least populated country for that per site for that

973
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 2: size respects to Malta. And once that happened, things sort

974
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: of seemed to change a bit on set, you know,

975
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: having to security guards with him at all time seemed

976
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,960
Speaker 2: to things seemed to you know, it sort of added

977
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 2: to the intensity on those jobs, even for Furio. So

978
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone can imagine the weight that happens.

979
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: It's very the minuture of it.

980
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 3: But the thing that back to George is that here

981
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 3: is this gentleman that inspire is inspiring hundreds of us.

982
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 3: We had over a thousand crew on Fury Road, eight

983
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 3: hundred visas I believe from.

984
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:08,719
Speaker 2: People from over this way.

985
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: He went to Africa, all get behind one one man

986
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 3: and he's producing partner, and I just I think that's

987
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 3: the greatest thing. Yeah, you know you actually I actually

988
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: don't want to share it, like I don't want to

989
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: share not not don't want to share it, but it

990
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: becomes something else when other people see it, they go nice.

991
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: It didn't do well at the box office. Yeah, you're like,

992
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 2: are you? Are you saying that my experience wasn't it?

993
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 5: Can?

994
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 4: I ask you Furiosa and few like which one was

995
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 4: your favorite of the modern too?

996
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 2: Well?

997
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 3: I enjoyed Fury Road more with all due respect to

998
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 3: my cast in Furiosa, there were too many Australians.

999
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 2: And for me to feel special.

1000
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I loved the first one because I never thought

1001
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 3: it would happen or not. I say the first my

1002
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 3: first film with George, I never thought it would happen.

1003
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 2: And Fury Road middle of nowhere.

1004
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: I got to work with the great Hugh keyes Burn,

1005
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 3: who played the toe cutter in the original, and I

1006
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time with him, asking him a

1007
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: lot of questions. And then when Furiosa came about which

1008
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 3: the quick I'll try and tell it quickly. The quick

1009
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 3: story of Furiosa was when Fury Road happened, what was happening.

1010
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: George has been trying to encourage the South Wales government,

1011
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 2: in Australian government to sort of follow this Sir Peter

1012
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: Jackson model from New Zealand, which was it identified the

1013
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: great cost for them is to find.

1014
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: Artisans and helpers to make a film and then they

1015
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: have to stand down while he goes into editorial mode.

1016
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 2: What they did in New Zealand was they were able

1017
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: to roll like you know, Lord of.

1018
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 3: The Rings into zena Warrior Princess into Hercules into King Kong.

1019
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 3: They didn't lose any of those film practitioners and so

1020
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,760
Speaker 3: then it attracted other people, and so they were trying

1021
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 3: to He was trying to get the New South Wales

1022
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 3: government to do that and Happy Feet two was taking

1023
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 3: a bit longer than expected, and so he got the

1024
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: Happy Feet two people. The idea was to make Furiosa

1025
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:32,320
Speaker 3: as like an anime to explain who Charlie's Charlie's.

1026
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 2: Character was before Fury Road.

1027
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 3: They were like, we'll give you Furiosa and Fury Road.

1028
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 3: And when you read Furiosa, everyone was like, this is

1029
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 3: a much more traditional script.

1030
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 2: This is this is.

1031
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 3: Absolutely compelling, and so people were pushing George to make Furiosa.

1032
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 2: First then Fury Road.

1033
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 3: So I enjoyed Fury Road more because I guess I

1034
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 3: know I was in our freaker. I was doing something

1035
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: I never thought I'd get to do in a in

1036
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 3: a film franchise or a film uber that I never

1037
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 3: thought would be possible the second time, you know, I

1038
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 3: was like, oh, there's the dickhead from Underbelly.

1039
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 6: You know, like it's it's too local, not not too local.

1040
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: But it just didn't feel as I didn't feel as

1041
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 2: you know, sort of remote.

1042
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: And I wrote some questions down that I wanted to

1043
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: ask you no, because you know I often you often

1044
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: asked like what's your favorite and all this sort of stuff.

1045
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 3: First of all, I was I just went and watched

1046
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 3: The State of Origin at Andrew Ditton's house. I said,

1047
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 3: you've got any questions for them? He said, I've got one.

1048
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 3: You asked them was there a player that they saw.

1049
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: That they were afraid of? You saw you were? Were

1050
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: you ever afraid playing football? That's from.

1051
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was revolving door that night.

1052
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 6: But you know what, Angus I, When you play, fear

1053
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,479
Speaker 6: is a really important part of it, because it's fear

1054
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 6: of letting your teammates down, Like when you're out there,

1055
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 6: when you've got such close bond. I would literally I

1056
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 6: swear to God's standing in front of a car coming

1057
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 6: at me for my teammates. I would rather do that

1058
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 6: than let my teammates down. When you sort of state

1059
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 6: of origin and all the guys running. When you see

1060
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: homoli Oli Kawatu in your suit going in there, that like,

1061
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 6: I respect that.

1062
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: People go, oh, that's.

1063
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: Undisciplined, mate, that is standing up being part of your mates.

1064
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 5: Like you know.

1065
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 6: For me, have I ever feared rather than fear? Not

1066
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 6: physical fear. But I remember really one of the first

1067
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 6: first games I ever played, when you played the Raiders

1068
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 6: in the early to mid nineties. It was a fate

1069
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 6: worse than death. They just beat you up so bad.

1070
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 6: They were the ninety four Raiders. I back against any side,

1071
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 6: they're incredible, but I remember we might have been ninety

1072
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 6: two or ninety three. I ran on the field and

1073
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 6: I'm a young greenhorn and I'm looking around at the

1074
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 6: camera stadium. It's freezing cold, and I look as we're

1075
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 6: about to kick off, I look and I go, fuck

1076
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 6: me dead. It's Melviourninger, you know what I mean, And

1077
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 6: you're going lands.

1078
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 5: It was.

1079
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 6: And I looked at mal and I just went, oh shit.

1080
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 6: And I remember the first time I tackled him. I

1081
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 6: said this to Mau and he sort of half took

1082
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 6: offense and said it was Mal was like you know

1083
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 6: when you're a kid and you tackle your dad in

1084
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 6: the lound room and you feel that strength and he

1085
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 6: goes all right, So comparing me to your old man,

1086
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,439
Speaker 6: said no, no, no, I didn't hit it dispersionally, but yeah,

1087
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:44,919
Speaker 6: that's what.

1088
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 5: It was like.

1089
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 6: And there was a time in the game I'm standing

1090
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 6: up a short side and there's me and the winger

1091
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 6: and I'm out of position. I'm caught up a short

1092
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 6: side and it's about a third of the field and

1093
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 6: I look and they've got no one andrewco on the

1094
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 6: wing and Mal and I'm sitting there and I think

1095
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 6: to myself, oh, please, please don't call the ball, Please

1096
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 6: don't call the ball.

1097
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 5: And he just looked at me and the ball the

1098
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 5: other way. He looked at me. He winked and smiled.

1099
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah he knew.

1100
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: I got There's been a few. I'm not gonna lie gussy.

1101
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 4: But when I went to Manly after Melbourne, Nelson said, Solomon,

1102
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 4: I remember we played him at the Battle of Brookvale.

1103
01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 4: Here we beat him, but geez, like we I spent

1104
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 4: five years avoiding Nelson at training, like whenever contacted come around,

1105
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 4: Like there's a large group of us that used to

1106
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: see what they break into two groups for defense, and

1107
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 4: whatever group Nelson would walk into, you would.

1108
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: See seven blokes to the other group.

1109
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 4: So Mate and just and I knew the whole week

1110
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,160
Speaker 4: their game plan always was trying to put Nelson one

1111
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 4: on one with the halves. So I just knew it

1112
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 4: was coming, and it was And he was just into

1113
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 4: me the whole time because he knew I hated tackling.

1114
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 2: Mate.

1115
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 6: The most scared I've ever been before a game, and scared.

1116
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 2: It's to not let your teammates down.

1117
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 6: But adrenaline and fear is really really important thing. It's like,

1118
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 6: you know, adrenaline covers a lot of things. It's a painkiller,

1119
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 6: but it's appetite suppress and all those things. You know,

1120
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 6: but it's so important makes you it gets you up emotionally.

1121
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 6: I always look at Dane gag guy, right, gay guy,

1122
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 6: that he would he could play a game and he'd

1123
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 6: be seven out of ten for the team, like South

1124
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 6: when he was there and he played Origin, he'd be

1125
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 6: nine out of ten, nine half out of ten. And

1126
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:33,440
Speaker 6: that's being able to use adrenaline to elevate yourself.

1127
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 5: Emotionally.

1128
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 6: The most terrifying thing I've ever experienced was right at

1129
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 6: the end of my career. I'm playing for Wigan in

1130
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 6: the North of England and we're playing Wakefield Trinity at

1131
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 6: Wakefield and it's a and I reckon. There's fifteen hundred

1132
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 6: people at the game and I'm staring. I'm standing at

1133
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 6: the urinal and I'm standing there and I haven't got

1134
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 6: an ounce I'm not one bit nervous, and I've got

1135
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 6: Noah adrenaline And it was fucking terrifying.

1136
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

1137
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 6: And every time I got hit in that game, it

1138
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 6: was like it hurt. I felt every blow and I

1139
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 6: just couldn't wait for the game to be over.

1140
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 5: And it was like, yeah, that that that that's scary.

1141
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 5: That that was.

1142
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 6: That's probably the most fear I've felt.

1143
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask your favorite team growing up in

1144
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: the NRL.

1145
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:28,280
Speaker 6: I I was Newtown Jets originally because Cessno Goanna's my

1146
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 6: dad's team, and they had they had a sister club

1147
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 6: agreements traveled back and forwards, and I was Newtown. Unfortunately,

1148
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 6: when they when they were dissolved, I become Balmonte Tigers.

1149
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 6: Even my first year of playing at the Knights when

1150
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 6: I was playing President President's Cup under twenty one, I

1151
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 6: was still a Tigers fan. I'd play for the Knights

1152
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 6: and games going on the.

1153
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 5: Hill and cheer for the Balmain.

1154
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 2: You know Arthur Lornd is a Tiger's fan, is he? Yeah?

1155
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 2: His dad his first pub is in balm And So

1156
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 2: I asked you because I was in Vegas for the NRL.

1157
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 2: I didn't see you, guys. I just I just felt

1158
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:14,479
Speaker 2: you and I had a couple.

1159
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 5: They tell me it was a good trip.

1160
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you both if you were a

1161
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 2: head coach, if you were appointed head coach tomorrow, who

1162
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: would be your assistant coaches? That's a that's a good question.

1163
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, you need the club. Do you want a

1164
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: club or doesn't It doesn't matter.

1165
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: But I tell you who I A team i'd love

1166
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 1: to have my hands on because they're they're young and

1167
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: they're so talented.

1168
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 4: Broncos. I'd love to have the like that Broncos squad

1169
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 4: because they're so they're so still so young. Assistant coach

1170
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: you just got appointed head coach of eels. Jason Ryles

1171
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 4: had him at Melbourne and he's just everything I'm not.

1172
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 4: He's very good, he's very he's just he's very good

1173
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 4: at defense, and he's very good at being serious but

1174
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 4: also not serious to the point where people like don't

1175
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of coaches that can get so

1176
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 4: stuck up on being serious and like almost trying to

1177
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 4: be not belittle players, but they want to be the

1178
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,919
Speaker 4: dominant figure that after a while people just go fucking

1179
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 4: sick of that coach, like he's annoying. But he knows

1180
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 4: the right time of when to be that dominant, but

1181
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 4: then when to be one of the boys as well.

1182
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 4: So he's just so loved by the playing group.

1183
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 6: I'd go the three guys, I'd get on board. I'd

1184
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 6: go one my producer on the radio show that I

1185
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 6: do and also the TV everywhere I go. I take

1186
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,400
Speaker 6: Himhill called Ben Hogarth. You used to work for Al

1187
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 6: Jazeera years ago. He's just I can do unbelievable and

1188
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 6: the reason I'd get him to all the editing and cuts.

1189
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 6: How would I use him parf from that? I don't know.

1190
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 6: But anytime I say hey, Ben with a difficult question,

1191
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 6: he just goes done. He's like the mcguiver, he just

1192
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 6: goes done.

1193
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 2: No problem's first note.

1194
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 5: No angus really Henry Winkler made my.

1195
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 2: Mate James One who's in Australian rebooted it.

1196
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah again, I go Okay.

1197
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: Usually there's a defensive coach, have an attacking coach.

1198
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 6: And so and the next guy I do I get

1199
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 6: would be Brian Fletcher, because Fletcher is very intelligent as

1200
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 6: far as football hides it, very well like, but just

1201
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 6: a great guy to have around. Players are absolutely love him,

1202
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 6: you know, A terrific guy. Third, third guy I get

1203
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 6: is an old coach. You coached Northern Neagles for a while.

1204
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 6: He's always been a great made of mine. He's at

1205
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 6: the Bulldogs now in recruitment, guy called Peter Sharp.

1206
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 5: Now.

1207
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 6: The mistake that a lot of coaches make these days, Angus,

1208
01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 6: is they get too many like minded people, and they

1209
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 6: get too many like they'd get too many ex's and

1210
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 6: those guys. I don't need x's and those guys I

1211
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 6: can look after that. What I need is guys who

1212
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 6: number one I trust and number two can look after

1213
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 6: the players and can be a bit of cartleage between

1214
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 6: me and the players, right so that I don't you know,

1215
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 6: I can pull out the big stick when I need it.

1216
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 5: But these guys are going to look at look after

1217
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 5: the rest. And that's a big mistake.

1218
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 6: I've told a couple of coaches in the last five

1219
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 6: years when they get a job a point, don't appoint

1220
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 6: young coaches like you A point, older guys who have

1221
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 6: lived a life and can look after the players like

1222
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 6: they're their kids. And then the thing I admire most

1223
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 6: about Sharpe's a great people person. But in his life

1224
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,560
Speaker 6: he's written the last fifteen to twenty he's endured a

1225
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 6: lot of tragedy, and so he has that natural empathy.

1226
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 6: So he's the first guy at a point.

1227
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 3: You mentioned before origin, Can you explain the difference between

1228
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 3: state of origin football as a player and club.

1229
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 2: Football, first grade football, and perhaps maybe using train I

1230
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 2: mean if I said trains, you might go bullet train. Yeah. Yeah,

1231
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 2: but what why can't Why can't Why can't we have

1232
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,439
Speaker 2: state of origin every week?

1233
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:23,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just it's apart from being physically demanding, mentally

1234
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:27,959
Speaker 6: it's so it's so demanding. It's just like I remember,

1235
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 6: it takes you a little bit sometimes to understand state

1236
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 6: of origin football. What it was the first time I

1237
01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 6: was picked. We went in in ninety five. We had

1238
01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:36,920
Speaker 6: a young side as me and Andrew and a few

1239
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 6: of the guys. It was long camp. Ten day camp.

1240
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 6: By day four we're still drinking and I'm going, what

1241
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 6: am I doing? And we were heavy favorites nearly all

1242
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 6: the camp.

1243
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 5: I assume we're going to win this, you know.

1244
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 6: And I remember running onto the field the Sydney Football

1245
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 6: Stadium and standing there I feel all right, and looking

1246
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 6: over as Coensland burst out of the tunnel and my

1247
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 6: teammate Robbie Davis was running an old ant and I

1248
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 6: looked in him and I've never seen him hold himself

1249
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 6: like before, and I went, we're in trouble.

1250
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: You know.

1251
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 6: That's it's it's state of origin football, if it makes sense,

1252
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 6: isn't about the football. It's what's inside you. Like I said,

1253
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 6: it's your ability to elevate yourself emotionally.

1254
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, moving away from footy, but I can ask

1255
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 3: those questions later.

1256
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: What was your first gig that you went to? Music gig?

1257
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: First music gig album.

1258
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't suspect you've ever bought an album.

1259
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: I've bought a vinyl still in the plus jack miles

1260
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 4: of collected he.

1261
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 1: I think the first one, uh, And I don't know.

1262
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: Actually we didn't go to he maybe it.

1263
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 4: Was Dickie Clapton, Richard Clapton. We went and watched him

1264
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 4: at Rudy Hill Rsel No, No, it.

1265
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 2: Was North City.

1266
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, don't worry he it was awesome.

1267
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Dicky was off. He looked like he had a

1268
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 4: big day by the time he got on stage, big month.

1269
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1270
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 4: He had the sunglasses on and he was basically using

1271
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 4: the mic stand to hold himself up.

1272
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 5: He's awesome, one of the best.

1273
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 6: The first gag I ever went to I remember seeing

1274
01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 6: Jimmy Barnes might have been holding Vim but the first

1275
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 6: key I went I was Iness, not boy. Traveled down

1276
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:20,479
Speaker 6: to Newcastle on the bus and went to the sixteen

1277
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 6: went to the Palais Royale in and watched Spy versus Spy.

1278
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 5: Three piece Newcastle bands.

1279
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 6: Newcastle very good at producing three piece bands, Silver Chair,

1280
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 6: so on and so forth, Scream and Jets four.

1281
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 3: One of them was a small contributor, more Pie than four.

1282
01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 3: Who would play you in your biopic?

1283
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 2: Oh?

1284
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 1: Good question, Dad? Do you know yours?

1285
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:56,839
Speaker 4: You always say yours, Dudley Moore, you always say Mark Woolberg.

1286
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,560
Speaker 5: Oh wow, do what have I ever said this? We

1287
01:09:59,600 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 5: asked me?

1288
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 4: He said it earlier and you you you've tossed up

1289
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 4: Tom Hardy and Mark Wilberg both times up.

1290
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: We've asked you that before.

1291
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, Mark Woburg's a little earnest. He's one of those

1292
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 6: guys I've said. We've used this example for me. Were

1293
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 6: at Paula Quarry, just said, you know, I like that

1294
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 6: Mark Wilbur is one of those guys to hear his action,

1295
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 6: but he never hears cut.

1296
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 4: My my one. I know that you've said this to

1297
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 4: me before. The actor from The Bear.

1298
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 6: The lead actor Carmie, Yeah, I forgot his name, and

1299
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 6: he was in The Iron Claw too.

1300
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,719
Speaker 3: You could be the guy what's his name, Josh O'Connor,

1301
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 3: he could play you the is he from the Crown.

1302
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 4: Sean Penn, Yes, it's see they picking. Do you see

1303
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 4: the theme that they're going with The guy from The Bear?

1304
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 5: Sean Penn.

1305
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 1: Two dudes with huge.

1306
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 2: Noses and he has to breathe in once a day.

1307
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 6: He remember one saying, Trush goes he got hit and

1308
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 6: she goes, oh, I think he's broken his nose. Broken

1309
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 6: that nose, it'll mean major surgery, definitely.

1310
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 3: General Speaking of each other, what what's your favorite quality

1311
01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 3: in Cooper qualities.

1312
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 2: And what about you for math?

1313
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: This is a psychiatrist coming, This is yeah.

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Speaker 2: Because the thing is I've got a good mate in

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 2: mel t Bone who.

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Speaker 3: He He's said to me, I can't believe that they're

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01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 3: a family. I can't believe what they talk about as

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:37,959
Speaker 3: a family. He reminded me that you guys are related

1319
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 3: and Trisha as well for the family podcasts. And I

1320
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: was like, you know what that's I don't know if

1321
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 3: that's testament to you or or when you know, when

1322
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 3: you call your dad Matthew or Jack will text me

1323
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 3: and revert you as Matthew or something, you forget that

1324
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 3: you're you're related. And it's testament to any I guess

1325
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,919
Speaker 3: family that a you communicate, but you communicate well. I'm curious,

1326
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 3: as you know all the jokes aside and I haven't

1327
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,880
Speaker 3: given you any notice what some of the qualities.

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 6: I think the qualities that I both admire and my

1329
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 6: two boys is that he.

1330
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 1: Said Cooper, he said, just Cooper.

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01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 6: It gets projected from other people. People will say I

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01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 6: run into Cooper, I run into Jack, I run into

1333
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:29,480
Speaker 6: your two boys.

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01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:31,639
Speaker 5: The other day. Cheers their good blokes.

1335
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 6: Cheers there you know, and for me, that's you know,

1336
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,640
Speaker 6: and there's lots of things that make up that you know.

1337
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 6: And both of them got integrity. Both of them are

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01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 6: honest and that's what I admire, and both of them

1339
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,599
Speaker 6: the thing, and they both got strength of character. That's

1340
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 6: probably I think the thing I love most. Their strength

1341
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 6: of character to the point that they will drag me

1342
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 6: aside sometimes and say, like Jack said to me the

1343
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 6: other day, he said, you know, Dad, he said, you know,

1344
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 6: for blokes your age, he said, I really might. I

1345
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,439
Speaker 6: think you've got the wood on a lot of people

1346
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 6: your age. You know, things you do, he said, but

1347
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 6: twenty percent of the time you really let yourself down.

1348
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 6: Ye And I went, okay, yep, no worries, And I

1349
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 6: just totally ignored.

1350
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: It and then asked to borrow the car.

1351
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks, sad, you want to get me vig.

1352
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 4: Okay, this is actually the easy one for me. Me

1353
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: and Jack were telling we're talking about this yesterday. I

1354
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 4: like in Matthew as a person of power, somebody who

1355
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 4: especially in rugby league, has his shows, somebody who is

1356
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 4: high in the media.

1357
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: He could very.

1358
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: Easily bag a lot of people if you wanted to,

1359
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 4: But he never has, and even if you know he

1360
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: might have personal difference with someone. He never has a

1361
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 4: bad He never likes putting people on show on a

1362
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:54,879
Speaker 4: public forum like there was. We use the example yesterday

1363
01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 4: Jack didn't with Paul Vaughan in twenty twenty in COVID.

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01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember this. He had a

1365
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: barber and everyone all week smashing him in the media going,

1366
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: how could you break.

1367
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 4: The rule of COVID. You're putting people's lives in danger?

1368
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 4: And Dad's show come on on a Thursday night after

1369
01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 4: everyon been bagging him on from Monday to Wednesday, and

1370
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 4: he come on and he said, Okay, I gos just

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01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 4: off the top. I want to talk about the Paul

1372
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 4: Vaughan incident. You know, I don't want to speak too

1373
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 4: much of the incident. He knows he's done the wrong thing.

1374
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 4: He's been getting ham it all week. Just want everyone

1375
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 4: out there to remember Vaughn is a champion bloke. He's

1376
01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 4: been on here multiple times. I never judged someone of

1377
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 4: how they treat me or the boys on the couch,

1378
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:35,400
Speaker 4: but how they treat the people behind the cameras, the

1379
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:37,679
Speaker 4: producers and the makeup artist. And no one has ever

1380
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 4: treated them as nice as Paul Vaughan has, so everyone

1381
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 4: remember he's a good bloke. He just made a mistake.

1382
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 4: And apparently Paul Vaughn texted Jack straight away and said,

1383
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 4: thank your old man so much. That's done so much

1384
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 4: for me and my family. Like we've been under the

1385
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 4: pump for a week and I've always and a lot.

1386
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 4: Nicko Hines has said a very similar thing the last

1387
01:14:55,000 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 4: month earlier in the y was getting under the pump,

1388
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 4: and he's always vouched. Matthew's always got his just doesn't

1389
01:15:01,439 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 4: like kicking people when they're down. And I love that

1390
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 4: quality and I love you, mate, I'm proud of it.

1391
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1392
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,479
Speaker 6: I remember once that there was one one thing which

1393
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 6: you know, I'm really sorry about now, and I apologize

1394
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 6: to him. I remember Robbie Farrer and I was sort

1395
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 6: of rebuilding my life and I reckon, you know, And

1396
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,920
Speaker 6: I guess at the time, I was suffering a bit

1397
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 6: of PTSD, and you know, I was sort of not

1398
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 6: well in myself, and I'd been critical of the Tigers,

1399
01:15:27,640 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 6: and rightfully so, because they weren't playing good. They were

1400
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 6: a great team on paper, but they weren't fulfilling their potential.

1401
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 6: And I use the word soft. Now, Robbi didn't play

1402
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:38,959
Speaker 6: in the game. I said, I saw the game against

1403
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 6: against the Dragons. Just are better than that. You're just

1404
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 6: playing soft, you know. And Robbie irked and things went

1405
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 6: from there and he was like, you know, well come on,

1406
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 6: you know, you know, and we sort of went back

1407
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 6: and forwards and he said, is there anything else you

1408
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 6: want to ask me? And I went, yeah, I hear

1409
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,000
Speaker 6: that young Benji don't like each other. Is that any

1410
01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 6: truth in that?

1411
01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 5: Anyway?

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01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 6: Just went from there and afterwards went away, and for me,

1413
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 6: it was a turn a turning point in that part

1414
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 6: of my life. I just went away and I went

1415
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 6: and I run into someone and they went, maybe, what

1416
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 6: was hell of that's not your really, it's not your goal.

1417
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 6: And I went, I know, you know, I don't you know,

1418
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 6: I don't know. It was just where my headspace was

1419
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,120
Speaker 6: at the moment. And I was over in the super Bowl,

1420
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 6: you know, about three years later, and I run into him. Yeah,

1421
01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:24,080
Speaker 6: I said, Robbie, I just want to say this mate,

1422
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 6: is that you know, I wasn't in a good place

1423
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,879
Speaker 6: at that time, and I just want to apologize you anyway.

1424
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,959
Speaker 5: Yep, yep, understand. Yeah, it's it's.

1425
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 3: It requires we need people to you know, to stop pylons,

1426
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 3: don't we Yes, that's the reality.

1427
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,160
Speaker 6: You know, the cancel culture. You know you get throse days, Angus,

1428
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 6: you know with people, and I get some of it.

1429
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, I just.

1430
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, he hasn't sinned as they say. You know.

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01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 6: Well, I tell what, Angus, I've loved that today. It's fantastic.

1432
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 6: I've gotta I've gotta ask you something. Finally, have you

1433
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 6: ever been to the calro Beach services?

1434
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 3: I have?

1435
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: Actually?

1436
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 5: Have you with dad? No, he's about to. Let's do it.

1437
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: I did my I did my what do you call it?

1438
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,839
Speaker 2: Problem with medallion here at Coloroi.

1439
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 5: That was that was a year record drownings.

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01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 2: H