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Speaker 1: On Scolus Oscodia. This is the Reader Panety Show.

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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Paney Show.

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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, I speak to an Australian comic taken

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Speaker 3: to court over an offensive joke, a new allegend racism

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Speaker 3: scandal at Collingwood Football Club. Douglas Murray will give his

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Speaker 3: verdict on Paris and that Kamala Harris Rebrand. Also joining

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Speaker 3: me tonight is Army Horowitz and Daniel Wilde and of

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Speaker 3: course left He's losing it tonight featuring actress and alleged

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Speaker 3: comic Chelsea Handler.

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Speaker 1: I mean, my god, are we tired?

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Speaker 4: You?

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Speaker 5: Sad diet, mountain dew drinking, couch humping, dolphin portante fiscionado,

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Speaker 5: All of us childless, cat and dog ladies are going

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Speaker 5: to go from childless and crushing it to childless and

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Speaker 5: crushing you.

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Speaker 3: In November, let's start with the biggest story in the

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Speaker 3: Ossie Rule States. Forget about the Olympic because it's all

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Speaker 3: about Collingwood Football Club being embroiled in a new racism

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Speaker 3: scandal with allegations against chief executive Craig Kelly, who stands

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Speaker 3: accused of joking about putting a live, effing possum in

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Speaker 3: a special room for Indigenous players, and calling an Aboriginal

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Speaker 3: elder a disparaging term. The allegations come from the club's

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Speaker 3: former head of First Nation Strategy, Mark Klever. Documents have

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Speaker 3: been filed with the Federal Circuit and Family courts. Michael

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Speaker 3: Warner reports that it's also alleged in these documents that

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Speaker 3: about halfway back to the office on or about High

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Speaker 3: Street or Hoddle Street, an Asian lady was walking across

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Speaker 3: the road nearing the middle of the road.

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Speaker 2: Mister Kelly swerved the.

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Speaker 3: Car so it passed close by her, yelled statistic and laughed.

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Speaker 3: There are also allegations that Craig Kelly said to mister Cleaver,

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Speaker 3: why do you need to use Google Maps? I assume

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Speaker 3: your people can navigate with their eyes closed, and earlier

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Speaker 3: during that troup, mister Cleaver, who documents detail identifies as

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Speaker 3: non binary and gay, allegience mister Kelly told him we

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Speaker 3: are taking my car. It's a real man's car. There

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Speaker 3: are several other allegations mister Cleaver is seeking compensation for

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Speaker 3: He is seeking compensation for hurt, humiliation and distress, and

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Speaker 3: economic loss Collingwood, though, is standing by its CEO.

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Speaker 2: Here is a club president, Jeff.

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Speaker 6: Brown Mark's employment was terminated for unrelated to the complaint

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Speaker 6: that he lodged.

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Speaker 3: His employment was terminated for other reasons associated.

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Speaker 1: What were those reasons?

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Speaker 2: Dishonesty meaning dishonest conduct in what context? In a number

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Speaker 2: of respects?

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is Deputy Executive director of the Institute

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Speaker 3: of Public Affairs, Daniel Wild Dan, how do you see

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Speaker 3: this story? Collingwood is certainly ending by its CEO. The

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Speaker 3: president there said he was absolutely behind the CEO and

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Speaker 3: they were going to fight these allegations.

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Speaker 7: Well, based on what's been reported, some of what's been

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Speaker 7: said is clearly out of bounds. I don't know the

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Speaker 7: broader context though it was said, if it was said,

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Speaker 7: if the context and so forth is important, So I

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Speaker 7: don't want to get into the details of that before

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Speaker 7: we know, of course information, but there is I think

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Speaker 7: a broader point is why do football clubs have ahead

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Speaker 7: of indigenous strategy? You know, the issue here is that

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Speaker 7: identity politics has seeped into every single area of our lives,

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Speaker 7: including sporting codes. Clearly, if there are issues of racism,

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Speaker 7: they need to be dealt with but we've talked about

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Speaker 7: this before. This is often used as a cudgel to

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Speaker 7: say that the systemic racism throughout sport and using football

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Speaker 7: clubs and other sporting organizations as a tool for politics

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Speaker 7: rather than just getting on the field and trying to

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Speaker 3: And AFL clubs, including Collingwood, have been fairly eager to

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Speaker 3: play politics. We saw that during the Voice debate.

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Speaker 2: And they all took a position.

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone really, I don't think there was

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Speaker 3: a massive demand from their fan base to form a

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Speaker 3: position that they have been internally well, yeah, statistically, most

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Speaker 3: of their fans would have voted no. Speaking more broadly

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Speaker 3: about this issue and the media coverage, we saw some

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Speaker 3: major missteps and that's putting it kindly from the media

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Speaker 3: during their coverage of the Hawthorne racism scandal. Do you

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Speaker 3: think the media has learned from that episode and is

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Speaker 7: Sadly not. I think the media has been implicated. They

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Speaker 7: were almost all in favor of the Voice to Parliament.

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Speaker 7: You have a lot of activists that are in the

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Speaker 7: media rather than proper journalists. Now, there are some good

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Speaker 7: journalists that do a good job but by and large

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Speaker 7: journalism has become a tool for political activism rather than

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Speaker 7: factual reporting. They're very eager to jump on anything that

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And as for the Collingwood case, getting back to that,

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Speaker 3: of course, we'll bring you the latest as the.

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Speaker 2: Matter is fought out in court.

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Speaker 3: We are not passing any judgment whatsoever on those allegations. Now,

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Speaker 3: let's talk about labor politicians piling on Nationals front bencher

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Speaker 3: Barnaby Joyce for comments they claim are inflammatory and worthy

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Speaker 3: of him being sacked. Let's listen to those comments first.

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Speaker 3: These comments have enraged not only labor but segments of

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Speaker 3: the media.

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Speaker 8: Your greatest power is organizing on a national level. And

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Speaker 8: your greatest weapon is to turn up in numbers in

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Speaker 8: camera in Macquarie Street, in George Street, in Queen Street.

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Speaker 8: And the bullet you have is that little piece of

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Speaker 8: paper and it goes in the magazine called the Voting Box,

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Speaker 8: and it's coming up.

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Speaker 1: Get ready to load that magazine.

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Speaker 8: Go goodbye, Chris goodbye Stephen, goodbye Albow.

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Speaker 3: He likened a vote going into a ballad box to

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Speaker 3: calling for Barnaby to be sacked.

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Speaker 9: This was some of the most extreme language we have

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Speaker 9: seen from an Australian politician in recent memory. It was

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Speaker 9: extreme language used by a senior member of Peter Dutton's

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Speaker 9: front bench. Extreme language used by someone who sat for

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Speaker 9: years on the National Security Committee. I'm not calling for

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Speaker 9: Barnaby Joyce to resign, I'm calling for Peter Dutton to

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Speaker 9: sack him.

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Speaker 6: This is une for David Little Proud too.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 9: Peter Dutton is the leader of the Coalition. Peter Dutton

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Speaker 9: says that he will be a prime Minister who will

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Speaker 9: make tough calls. Well, this is the first tough call

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Speaker 9: that he needs to make if he thinks he should

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Speaker 9: be anywhere near a leadership position. He's just waiting for

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Speaker 9: the Nationals to give him permission. It shows how weak

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Speaker 9: he is and it shows that there is no low

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Speaker 9: standard that he won't let walk by.

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Speaker 2: Daniel. Where does one start.

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Speaker 3: Does the Assistant Minister to the Prime Minister not understand

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Speaker 3: that Peter Dutton can't sack a nationals MP and frankly,

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Speaker 3: why would he want to over those comments.

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Speaker 7: Well, Paul Patrick's having a hard time there. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I've never really heard of him until that. To be

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Speaker 7: with this time. But Peter Dunt's not the leader of

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Speaker 7: the Liberal Party. So it's a distinction that Patrick might

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Speaker 7: Barnaby's apologized for his language. It was probably a bit

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Speaker 7: over the top, but the fundamental thing he's saying is

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Speaker 7: there's a lot of communities in regional Australia that are

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Speaker 7: being steamrolled by the inner city elites and the energy

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Speaker 7: corporations who are putting solar panels, wind turbines, high tension,

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Speaker 7: high voltage transmission lines across their land. And what Barnaby

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Speaker 7: is saying is you need to organize, get active, you

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Speaker 7: have to go and actually communicate your issue on a

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Speaker 7: national scale. The groups together because this is a national issue,

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Speaker 7: not just a localized, regional issue. So the substance of

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Speaker 7: what he was saying was spot on. But I think

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Speaker 7: you know, he's apologized for the bullet comment and probably

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Speaker 7: fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's plenty of analogies you can make, there's other ones,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think anybody listening to that would have felt.

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Speaker 2: Compelled to do anything unlawful.

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Speaker 7: I mean, come on, what he I mean what Patrick

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Speaker 7: said that this is the most extreme language used or something?

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Speaker 7: What about what the Palestinian protest was saying it in

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Speaker 7: relation to October sees?

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Speaker 3: What about his own colleague up colleague up until a

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Speaker 3: few weeks ago saying from the river to the sea,

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Speaker 3: Palestine will be free.

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Speaker 2: Did he come on stein complain about it?

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Speaker 7: Would have condemned that?

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: Now Meta's fact checkers are claiming that an iconic image

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Speaker 3: now Trump after his near assassination is an altered photo.

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Speaker 3: You'll remember this image where he got up, put his

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Speaker 3: fist up, said fight. Absolutely outrageous but not surprising. Now

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Speaker 3: we've got a Facebook representative who has admitted this was

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Speaker 3: a mistake and apologized. But the so called fact checks

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Speaker 3: on Meta that's both Facebook and Instagram are highly partisan

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Speaker 3: and always Daniel in the one direction spot on.

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Speaker 7: They're not apologizing because they got it wrong. They're apologizing

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Speaker 7: because they got caught out. And that's always the way

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Speaker 7: We've talked about this before with the fake fact checkers.

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Speaker 7: The analysis we did the Voice to Parliament fact checking

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Speaker 7: was ninety percent of fact checking was against the No

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Speaker 7: the Yes side that was perpetrating misinformation and it was

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Speaker 7: our beneasy. He said, oh, this is just a modest

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Speaker 7: a small, modest request. Now you're changing the constitution along

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Speaker 7: racial lines. So look, this is the concern with misinformation

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Speaker 7: would be policed by people like e Safety Commissioner is

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Speaker 7: through these fact checking organizations, which, as you say, are

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And if it wasn't for X and Elon Musk

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Speaker 3: buying X, we wouldn't be having an apology and withdrawal

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Speaker 3: of this particular fact check because they wouldn't be embarrassed

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Speaker 3: because that would also exist across X, like it did

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Speaker 3: in twenty twenty where they buried that New York Post

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Speaker 3: story on Hunter Biden's laptop. They worked in unison across

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Speaker 3: the board to suppress that story.

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Speaker 2: Daniel Wylde, thank you so much for your time this evening.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: My next guest is the author of international bestsellers, including

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Speaker 3: his latest The War on the West.

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Speaker 2: Douglas Murray.

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Speaker 3: The Paris Olympics are underway and the controversy around that

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Speaker 3: drag queen heavy opening ceremonies behind us. The French have

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Speaker 3: done their absolute best to present an idealic version of

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Speaker 3: Paris that you, arguing your latest piece for the Spectator

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Speaker 3: no longer exists. Indeed, you ask, will we always have Paris?

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Speaker 10: Well, that idyllic Paris does exist in the center, but

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Speaker 10: only as long as you have tens of thousands of

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Speaker 10: policemen and soldiers stationed on the streets. And I think

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Speaker 10: that this is something which not just France, but Britain, Australia,

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Speaker 10: America and all other Western liberal societies have to think about.

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Speaker 10: You know, there was a g had a cell that

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Speaker 10: was stopped just a few weeks ahead of the Olympics

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Speaker 10: trying to carry out and attack on the Olympics. A

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Speaker 10: number of other groups have been found trying to disrupt

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Speaker 10: it as well. On the opening day, there was a

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Speaker 10: massive and still pretty much underreported the story that happened

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Speaker 10: where some of the main power grids in France that

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Speaker 10: stopped that were helping the trains run, were all taken

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Speaker 10: out in a simultaneous attack by people who clearly knew

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Speaker 10: what they were doing.

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Speaker 1: They grounded a lot.

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Speaker 10: And you know, you and I have talked about this before. Rita,

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Speaker 10: We know because this had happened in twenty sixteen, when

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Speaker 3: You are so right that reckless retrick started within minutes,

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Speaker 10: I wish that Kamala Harris made it clearer where she did.

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Speaker 10: Young woman, and you know, it's just when we first

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Speaker 10: saw that footage of her being taken away in absolute

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Speaker 10: terror on the back of a motorcycle, I think many

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Speaker 10: people fear they wouldn't see her again. But you know,

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Speaker 10: she's a remarkable young woman, and she's back back with

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Speaker 10: her family and back with her loved ones, and I

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Speaker 10: hope that happens for all the other hostages who are

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Speaker 10: still being held and who the world seems to have

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Speaker 10: forgotten about.

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Speaker 2: Well, So, Douglas Murray, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 10: This evening great pleasure, as always, reta thank.

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Speaker 2: You still to come.

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Speaker 3: And lefties losing it and Armi Horowitz takes a deep

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Speaker 3: dive into all things Carmala.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back.

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Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it and the affluent

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Speaker 3: white female liberals awful for short. They are mobilizing for

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Speaker 3: the Democrats, and they have a compelling message. I mean,

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Speaker 3: who wouldn't be swayed by this?

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Speaker 12: This is a message for every single person who looks

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Speaker 12: like me, specifically white women.

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Speaker 1: It's time.

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Speaker 12: This is no longer about politics, and you get to

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Speaker 12: write your wrongs of twenty sixteen when you didn't put

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Speaker 12: a woman in the White House who was overly qualified.

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Speaker 12: Now's your chance.

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Speaker 3: Thank god I don't look like her, because I think

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Speaker 3: that means I don't have to listen to her. But

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Speaker 3: you white women, well sorry, but this is apparently a

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Speaker 3: life and death matter, no hyperbole there.

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Speaker 12: This is no longer about red versus blue. This is

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Speaker 12: our lives that we are playing with. And the piece

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Speaker 12: that you have control, Oliver, is who you vote for

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Speaker 12: in November. You need to find a spine to stand

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Speaker 12: up against the white men in your life who are

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Speaker 12: telling you who should be your president.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ignore the white men and listen to this white woman.

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Speaker 2: Makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 3: And here is another totally sane white woman who has

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Speaker 3: a message for America. Here is comic Chelsea Handless rant

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Speaker 3: about jd Vance's childless cat lady comments.

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Speaker 12: I mean, my god, are we tired you?

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Speaker 5: Sad diet, mountain dew drinking, couch humping, dolphin portante ficionado.

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Speaker 5: All of us childless cat and dog ladies are going

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Speaker 5: to go from childless and crushing it to childless and

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Speaker 5: crushing you in November.

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Speaker 3: And here is another white woman, this time may Derange

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Speaker 3: MSNBC contributor, claiming that jd Vance's comments are motivated by

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Speaker 3: you guessed it, white supremacy. Here have any wants more

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Speaker 3: white children?

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Speaker 13: The stats are there more and more Americans choosing not

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Speaker 13: to have kids, which again emphasizes why jd Vance's comments

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Speaker 13: about childless Americans, childless Calaites could be so polically damaging.

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Speaker 5: Well, so what's interesting is this is this needileism that

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Speaker 5: comes from an authoritarian playbook, right, that there need to.

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Speaker 2: Be more white children. Right, that's the idea that there's you.

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Speaker 7: Know, this is about great replacement theory.

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Speaker 2: Racism, right, this is what this is.

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Speaker 1: So don't misunderstand it.

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Speaker 12: For him wanting more children, he wants a certain kind

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Speaker 12: of you know, racist thing.

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Speaker 2: What can you say to that?

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Speaker 3: Jd Vance is the father of three biracial children. His

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Speaker 3: children are not white, you dim witted race baiting simpleton.

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Speaker 3: And look, it's not just white women for Kamala. The

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Speaker 3: Democrats have really embraced their segregationists past. And they've also

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Speaker 3: got what they call white dudes for Harris. This group,

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Speaker 3: and yes, they do look exactly as you'd expect. Don't

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Speaker 3: you just love a white men only group created in

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Speaker 3: the name of progress. Let's hear it from these wide dudes,

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Speaker 3: starting with actor Jeff Bridges.

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Speaker 2: I'm white, I'm a dude, and I'm for Harris.

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Speaker 14: Over the last few years, you know, I've been thinking

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Speaker 14: a lot about men.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure if you guys can recall that feeling

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Speaker 4: you had on the night of Tuescay, November eight, twenty sixty.

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Speaker 4: I stood over my kid's bed and I wept.

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Speaker 3: He stood over his kids' beds and wept and ate cookies.

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Speaker 2: It looks like ladies.

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Speaker 3: If you think there is a crisis in masculinity, you'd

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Speaker 3: be right, because you won't detect any in this group.

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Speaker 10: In the marginalized communities that educate me every single day

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Speaker 10: that this is a constant education for all of us.

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Speaker 4: Kamala is carrying on her shoulders two hundred and forty

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Speaker 4: eight years of pain, of agony, of hope, of frustration,

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Speaker 4: And no matter how high she jumps, no matter how

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Speaker 4: many degrees she has, no matter how good her grades are,

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Speaker 4: she's never good enough because they're always moving the line.

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Speaker 4: What a variety of whiteness we have here with like

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Speaker 4: a rainbow of a beije man.

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Speaker 13: I am scared to death of what the future could

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Speaker 13: look like if we go back to another Trump administration.

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Speaker 3: Now to the woman herself, Kamala Harris, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Oakland born Californian who's Indian and Jamaican. Parents were both academics,

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Speaker 3: one a scientist, the other a professor.

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Speaker 2: This is how she normally speaks.

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Speaker 11: We are all in this together, and your vote is

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Speaker 11: your power. So please make sure your voice is heard

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Speaker 11: this November and register to vote at vote dot com.

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Speaker 3: That was Kamala on the set of a Drag Queen show.

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Speaker 3: Here is Kamala in Atlanta talking to a mainly black audience.

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Speaker 3: See if you can detect the subtle difference.

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Speaker 11: And you are not just win in twenty twenty and

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Speaker 11: we don't do it again in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, she's suddenly got some sort of a southern

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Speaker 3: urban droll happening, and she's not bad at it.

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Speaker 15: I said to the congressman, I didn't know he.

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Speaker 10: Could preach like that.

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Speaker 2: So authentic. There you would have spotted Terrence K. Williams,

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Speaker 2: comic Terrence K.

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Speaker 3: Williams that he is none to please with Kamala pandering

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Speaker 3: to the black vote.

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Speaker 2: Have a look at his reaction to her speech today.

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Speaker 11: Because, as the saying goes, if you've got something to say.

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Speaker 14: Girl, bah, you trying so hard to be black?

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Speaker 1: When did you start talking like this?

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Speaker 14: If you got fucked by say they say it, tell

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Speaker 14: my face, Kamala, Kamala, stop trying so hard to pan

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Speaker 14: dirt to black people and black people's faces, pretending you

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Speaker 14: are something.

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Speaker 6: That you're not.

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Speaker 3: Oh, there was certainly plenty of pandering happening at the

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Speaker 3: Atlanta rally.

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Speaker 2: Here's Meghan the Stallion telling women.

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Speaker 3: That if they want to keep loving the Kirby bodies,

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Speaker 3: then they best vote for Harris.

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Speaker 2: What and if you.

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Speaker 14: Want to keep loving your body, you know you?

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Speaker 15: Hey, buddy crazy, perfect place, Buddy crazy, perfect place.

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Speaker 3: We've got plenty more lefties losing it to cover with

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Speaker 3: my next guest, and Kamala Harris features again. She went

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Speaker 3: from denying she was ever the borderzaar to bragging that

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Speaker 3: she has a better track record on immigration than Donald Trump.

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Speaker 11: So in this campaign, I will proudly put my record

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Speaker 11: against his any day of the lead, any day of

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Speaker 11: the week, including for example, on the issue of immigration.

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Speaker 2: Incredible stuff.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is commentation and documentary filmmaker Army Horowitz.

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Speaker 3: Army that message got cheers in Atlanta. Will it convinced

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Speaker 3: independent voters? Kamala imagine what can be unburdened by what

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Speaker 3: has been.

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Speaker 13: No, it's gas lighting of the first order, although I

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Speaker 13: guess because technically she doesn't want to use the word

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Speaker 13: what to ban the word illegal immigrants. So basically, I

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Speaker 13: make guess you can calculate that on her watch there

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Speaker 13: have been no illegal people across the country. I guess

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Speaker 13: by that math she might be able to win that argument. Look, Rita,

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Speaker 13: you and I actually debated this a while back. I

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Speaker 13: gotta be honest when it came to the border deal

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Speaker 13: that the President tried to push through and then blame

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Speaker 13: the Republicans of not taking. Yes, I know it was

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Speaker 13: three years too late obviously, but I think that what

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Speaker 13: the Republicans did themselves by not engaging or taking that

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Speaker 13: particular border deal was it allowed the Democrats to do

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Speaker 13: exactly what I said, then used that as as a cudgel,

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Speaker 13: as enough of a policy issue to muddle the issue

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Speaker 13: for independent voters when they say, look, we came the

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Speaker 13: border deal, you said no, right, Just from that perspective

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Speaker 13: a loan, it's creating a lot of problems for what

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Speaker 13: should be a very clear win for the Republicans and immigration.

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Speaker 13: I'll say this about Kamala Harris. So a man named

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Speaker 13: William von Spronson, who was an Antifa radical terrorist who

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Speaker 13: died in a fiery fight with federal agents, who was

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Speaker 13: attacking an ICE facility in Washington State as an Antifa

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Speaker 13: terrorist when he was killed. Bad as manifesto. Well, guess

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Speaker 13: what if you look at what her policy prescriptions are

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Speaker 13: for the border, it comes right after Wilhem von Spronson's manifesto.

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Speaker 13: She wants to ban ICE, stop deportations. These are all

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Speaker 13: the issues that the antifa radicals have been talking about.

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Speaker 13: That's what the Republicans have got to hit over and

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Speaker 13: over again that she is an absolute radical and she

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Speaker 13: carries the yoke of the failure of the administration, whether

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Speaker 13: you want.

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Speaker 1: To call the borders are and not the borders are.

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Speaker 13: End of the day, complete and total failure for the

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Speaker 13: democratic administration. Fifteen million people across the border, which is

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Speaker 13: in Australia's terms, more than half of your population coming

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Speaker 13: across the border illegally, let's make that clear, and illegal immigration.

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Speaker 13: While it has slipped slightly in national polls from two

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Speaker 13: to three in some polls two, some polls, three in

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Speaker 13: all the battleground states, it is still very solidly the

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Speaker 13: number two issue in the country, number one, of course

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Speaker 13: being the economy.

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Speaker 3: Now, another area where Kamala is a performing spectacular backflips

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Speaker 3: is energy policy. And fracking in particular. The Hill and

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Speaker 3: other media outlets are trying to tell us the Vice

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Speaker 3: President will not seek to ban fracking if she's elected

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Speaker 3: president in twenty twenty four, but she's on the record

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Speaker 3: saying she wants to ban fracking.

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Speaker 11: I am committed to passing a green New Deal, creating

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Speaker 11: clean jobs, and finally putting an end to fracking once

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Speaker 11: and for all. There's no question I'm in favor of

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Speaker 11: banning fracking. So yeah, and starting and starting with what

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Speaker 11: we can do on day one around public lands, right,

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Speaker 11: and then there has to be a legislation. But yes,

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Speaker 11: and this is something I've taken on in California.

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Speaker 2: I have a history of working on this issue.

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Speaker 3: How important is this issue, particularly in those crucial swing

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Speaker 3: states like Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 13: Let me think about it. This yeah, really really important. Yeah,

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Speaker 13: particularly Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania is the second largest producer of energy

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Speaker 13: in the country. There are tremendous amount of jobs tied

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Speaker 13: to it. Additionally, what people really aren't talking about it's

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Speaker 13: very much a union state and there's been a lot

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Speaker 13: serious eroding of of union support among the the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 13: Of course, it was, of course one of the biggest

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Speaker 13: groups supporting the Democratic Party. You've seen erosion of that.

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Speaker 13: Trump has made a lot of headway in that also

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Speaker 13: soars JD.

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Speaker 2: Vans.

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Speaker 13: Frankly, it's an issue, of course around jobs. Look, you

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Speaker 13: have to remember that as California Attorney General, Kamala Harris

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Speaker 13: not only backed the batting of fracking, she actually sued

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Speaker 13: the Obama administration for have federal fracking off the coast

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Speaker 13: of California. And by the way, also she was a

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Speaker 13: co sponsor of the Green New Deal, right, the most

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Speaker 13: radical pol agenda, the greatest expansion of government that we've

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Speaker 13: seen in a hundred years in this country. She was

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Speaker 13: a backer, she was a co sponsor of it. So yeah,

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Speaker 13: that dog ain't gonna hunt. When she now is trying

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Speaker 13: to say, hey, I'm not wanning for president, so yeah,

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Speaker 13: I won't support the banning of fracking.

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Speaker 1: That's just not true.

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Speaker 13: It's not her history shows and she will in fact

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Speaker 13: do that if she becomes president.

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Speaker 2: Well, as you said, it's her history.

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Speaker 3: It's not just a position that she formed five minutes

666
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Speaker 3: ago that she can back out of easily. This is

667
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Speaker 3: in her DNA, this is what she actually believes in

668
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Speaker 3: positions she's implemented in the past, so I think it's

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Speaker 3: going to be a very hard sell. Indeed, now Harris

670
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Speaker 3: is also campaigning on her record of being a tough prosecutor.

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Speaker 3: They're trying to paint her as the law and order

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Speaker 3: figure against a convicted Fellon Trump. But she was actually

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Speaker 3: quite soft on crime when it mattered. In recent years,

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Speaker 3: she's back BLM, she's back bail funds forring thugs, she's

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Speaker 3: talked about defunding the police and reimagining public safety.

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Speaker 2: And she's a San Francisco Liberal.

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Speaker 3: How much ownership does she have on what is happening

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Speaker 3: in San Francisco and in California.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I wouldn't say she has no responsibility. I mean,

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Speaker 13: she was not only the chief prosecutor of San Fisco,

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Speaker 13: which we've seen the city self destruct over the years,

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Speaker 13: certainly while she was the prosecutor there, and she was

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Speaker 13: the California Tary General, We've seen both Los Angeles, San Frasco,

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Speaker 13: San Diego implode with crime and homelessness. Yeah, she has

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Speaker 13: an involvement and responsibility in all of those things. I mean,

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Speaker 13: she never as California Try General. She never forced California's

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Speaker 13: immigration laws, which led to an overrun of the legal

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Speaker 13: immigrants in the state of California. She over and over

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Speaker 13: again decided not to use a death penalty, including the

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Speaker 13: cases of someone who was a cop killer, a number

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Speaker 13: one of the triple homicide. She was also there, you know,

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Speaker 13: when somebody's trying to get a sex change and a murderer.

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Speaker 13: She used taxpayer dollars to do that.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 13: You know what I don't like is a Republican say

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Speaker 13: she's an empty vessel. Right, they've been kind of there's

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Speaker 13: been attack, they've been going on saying that she does

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Speaker 13: whatever she can to to move ahead. I don't like

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Speaker 13: that that that particular perspective because it really absolves her responsibility.

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Speaker 13: She is, in fact a hard leftist. She has proven

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Speaker 13: that both indeed and in a word, I think you

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Speaker 13: you you kind of take some of the responsibility off

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Speaker 13: her when you call her that. So uh, No, I

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Speaker 13: think she takes a lot of responsibility for the problems

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Speaker 13: in California and if you want to repeat of what's

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Speaker 13: happening in San Frisco, yeah, elector as president.

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Speaker 3: That's a very good point because I think that accusation

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Speaker 3: is also pretty empty because they have Politicians will all

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Speaker 3: cize things to get her elected. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: really a damning allegation. If you hold her record against

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Speaker 3: her voting record in the Senate, for example, that's pretty

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Speaker 3: pretty poor in itself. Before you go, army, we've had

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Speaker 3: reports today that Israel has killed a top her.

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Speaker 2: Mass leader in Iran.

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Speaker 3: Is Malhania was targeted and killed in Iran, according to

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Speaker 3: a statement by the country's revolutionary god.

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Speaker 2: And this comes army.

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Speaker 3: Just hours after Israel killed a Hazbal military leader.

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Speaker 2: It's most senior military leader.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, and all I can say is thank God and

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Speaker 13: God bless Israel for doing that. Isabel Hania was essentially

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Speaker 13: the president or flash prime minister of the terrorist state

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Speaker 13: of Gaza. Ironically wasn't living in Gaza. He was living

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Speaker 13: in luxury in Qatar, as his people didn't have as

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Speaker 13: they claim, these people don't have food. In fact, do

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Speaker 13: have quite a bit of food that shipped from Israel.

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Speaker 13: By the way, the only time I think in recording

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Speaker 13: history that when you're at war somebody else, you're providing

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Speaker 13: them with food and energy. But yeah, while they are

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Speaker 13: are feeling the brunt of what he did on October seventh,

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Speaker 13: he was living in luxury as a little rat in Qatar,

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Speaker 13: and I think that ultimately we find out how he

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Speaker 13: was murdered, I think will be one of the great

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Speaker 13: stories and another legendary story to add to most sades

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Speaker 13: storied history.

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Speaker 1: So I'm very interested.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna make it about killing.

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Speaker 3: Him and will make an amazing documentary. Maybe you'll put

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Speaker 3: it together. Ami Horowitz, Thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 2: This evening always a pleasure still to come. Isaac Butterfield

741
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Speaker 2: joins me, after.

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Speaker 3: His big win against the Australian Human Rights Commission.

743
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Speaker 2: You're watching the Raid of Pane. He's shown now.

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Speaker 3: My next guest took on the Australian Human Rights Commission one.

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Speaker 3: Eighteen months ago. Comedian Isaac Butterfield was taken to the

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Speaker 3: Human Rights Commission over a joke he made on stage.

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Speaker 3: The case has now been dropped in what he's calling

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Speaker 3: a huge win for Australian comedy. Isaac joins me, Now,

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Speaker 3: glad this ordeal is over for you. Isaac, But eighteen

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Speaker 3: months of this legal issue hanging over your head must

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Speaker 3: have been enormously stressful. And when it comes to the

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Speaker 3: Human Rights Commission, it seems often the process is the punishment.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was it was quite stressful and not knowing

754
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Speaker 6: what will come of this interaction with the government body

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Speaker 6: of which I know very little about. The Queensland Human

756
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Speaker 6: Rights Commission sent a letter to my house. It came

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Speaker 6: to my doorstep, you know, very professional. It was all

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Speaker 6: this legal stuff. I was like, oh my goodness, here

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Speaker 6: I am thinking on a comedian telling jokes when in reality,

760
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Speaker 6: apparently I'm destroying people's lives. That's a lot for me

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Speaker 6: to take on board, considering that I just do this

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Speaker 6: to make people happy. But you know, it is what

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Speaker 6: it is. Apparently that is the world we live in

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Speaker 6: right now. And as a comedian, I'm very happy for

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Speaker 6: this outcome because it does it leaves, It leaves somewhere

766
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Speaker 6: for us comedians who like to tread on the boundaries

767
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Speaker 6: of acceptable, somewhere to go.

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Speaker 3: Well, you have got a huge following, more than two

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Speaker 3: million followers on YouTube aloone. You've got big following on Facebook, Instagram,

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Speaker 3: just about every social media side. Did you ever consider

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Speaker 3: changing your approach, changing your content to avoid offending those.

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Speaker 2: Who are well, some of them are desperate to be offended.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Well, I've been doing stand up for ten years and

775
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Speaker 6: I've tried to write clean material.

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Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm not clever enough, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to do it.

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Speaker 6: I have no interest in it. And it's the I'm

779
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 6: saying with content online, I don't have a TikTok presence

780
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Speaker 6: because I've had about eight accounts taken down for commentary

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Speaker 6: that I've made on certain political issues or issues.

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Speaker 1: That are happening in the world.

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Speaker 6: So there is a lot of people out there that

784
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Speaker 6: are easily offended, and I just don't think that a

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Speaker 6: comedy show or somewhere where you're going to pay someone

786
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Speaker 6: good money to tell you jokes, I don't think that

787
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Speaker 6: is the place that you should be. If you are

788
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Speaker 6: easily offended, just don't go.

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Speaker 1: Don't listen to it. If you don't like heavy metal music,

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Speaker 1: don't listen to it. It's the same can be said

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Speaker 1: for this.

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Speaker 2: And there are plenty of PC comics.

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Speaker 3: If you want to go along to a comedy show

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Speaker 3: where the content is more to.

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Speaker 2: Your liking, there's no shortage.

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Speaker 3: But we are also seeing a research resurgence of bold,

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Speaker 3: brave comedy. The very best comics in the world right

798
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Speaker 3: now are unapologetically anti woke. You've got Ricky Gervais stage

799
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Speaker 3: ship hell, the new breed coming through like so theo Whine.

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Speaker 3: I know he's been around for a long time. Andrew Schultz.

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Speaker 3: Is cancel culture dead or is it on life support now?

802
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Speaker 3: Because a few years ago, just about all these guys

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Speaker 3: would be buried with some of the content they have.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there is cancel culture.

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Speaker 6: It is a cultural thing for these people who see

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Speaker 6: themselves as progressive or easily offended.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily work, though.

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Speaker 6: When I get canceled, I get excited because it means

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Speaker 6: I sell more tickets, because more people want to come

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Speaker 6: and see me speak, and not because they're bad people.

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Speaker 6: They just enjoy comedy, and they're there because they know

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Speaker 6: that what I'm saying out of my mouth it isn't real.

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Speaker 1: It isn't reality.

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Speaker 6: I'm only there for one reason, and that is to

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Speaker 6: say something to make you laugh, and that is it.

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Speaker 1: To forget about your life for an hour, an hour

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Speaker 1: and a half. That's it.

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Speaker 6: I'm not there to impress anyone. I'm not there to

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Speaker 6: change anyone's political opinion. I'm there to make you laugh.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Nothing else. Now.

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Speaker 3: One of your videos that did make me laugh, But really,

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Speaker 3: I don't think see this as even Riskay, this just

823
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Speaker 3: seems to be you giving good logical advice.

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Speaker 2: Let's have a look. No, it sounds crazy, but trans

825
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Speaker 2: women can produce.

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Speaker 1: Milk, not a baby. Here's step one.

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Speaker 2: You must grow your coconuts.

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Speaker 13: After about three to five years of estrogen, you will

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Speaker 13: have fully functional milk ducks from which you can feed

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Speaker 13: a baby.

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Speaker 6: Maybe you can also go to a grocery store and

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Speaker 6: pick up a bottle of milk. So once your coconuts

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Speaker 6: are grown, it is time to start producing milk. If

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Speaker 6: you are a biological man and you produce milk, do

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Speaker 6: not feed it to a child.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I endorse that message, but that transactivist is one

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Speaker 3: of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: I've got to say.

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Speaker 3: He features regularly on Lefties Losing It. You've got a

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Speaker 3: lot of content to work with out there at the moment,

841
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 3: don't you, Because the people share this stuff themselves on

842
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 3: social media and it's rich pickings.

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00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there is.

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Speaker 6: There is a lot of interesting things to focus on,

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Speaker 6: and we can focus on the more horrific things if

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Speaker 6: we want to. We can talk about wars and stuff.

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Speaker 6: But sometimes it's just easy to look at these people

848
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 6: and go thankfully that isn't me, thankfully, that's not my life,

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Speaker 6: you know, talking about a trans person producing milk to

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Speaker 6: feed to a child. I don't know what people out

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Speaker 6: there think about that, but anything to do with father's

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Speaker 6: milk is not something that should be fed to a child.

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Speaker 1: That's just my honest opinion.

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Speaker 3: We don't have the e Safety Commissioner hear that, because

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Speaker 3: she said today a.

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Speaker 2: Tweet that said pretty much that.

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Speaker 3: Isaac Butterfield, congratulations and thank you so much for your

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Speaker 3: time this evening, and that's it from me. Up next

859
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Speaker 3: is Newsnight. I'll see you tomorrow at eleven.

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Speaker 2: Good night

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Speaker 11: Eight