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Speaker 1: H approach production.

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Speaker 2: For the record.

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Speaker 3: I'm done trying to make you all comfortable for the record.

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Speaker 3: You ain't trying to grow downer stuff for your fort

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Speaker 3: the record, laugh on me going all the way for

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Speaker 4: For the record, for the for the record, for the red,

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Speaker 4: for the record, record for the record.

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Speaker 3: I'm done trying to make you all comfortable.

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Speaker 2: Right, Welcome back to the Clink and Possible Brand's chat

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Speaker 2: with McGall pick back up where we left off.

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Speaker 1: We think he's sharing how his mother helped stop him

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Speaker 1: from taking his own life. That's a long journey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a really really long journey, brother, that's yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, I'm a little bit huh. I've never

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Speaker 1: had that relationship with a mum, so I can only

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Speaker 1: take on how your mum would feel. Why. I've never

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Speaker 1: had my mom, So for me, it's just that's life.

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Speaker 1: But I've always appreciated every one of my mates mums.

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Speaker 1: And to hear you speak in that way and then

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Speaker 1: know that you know, it's just yeah, it's just not

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Speaker 1: me for six you know, like, wow, what a blessing

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Speaker 1: to a Mum's still here today.

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Speaker 2: Mummy is still here. Yeah, absolutely. Mum's one of my

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Speaker 2: greatest beautiful, one of my greatest teachers, and one of

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Speaker 2: days later, I said, why did you ask that that night?

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Speaker 2: Why did you ask? And she said the night that

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Speaker 2: it happened then, when I was gassing myself. She said

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Speaker 2: sickest feeling come over it, and that she burst out

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Speaker 2: into laundroom and said to my dad, we need to

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Speaker 2: get iggy homes. Something is wrong. And that's where that started. Now,

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Speaker 2: if if Mum had called, it would have been a

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Speaker 2: really a like a divine intervention if with how it

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Speaker 2: that was a turning point in my life. Now, that said,

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Speaker 2: just because I said I wasn't going to kill myself

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Speaker 2: tempting fate. That was still absolutely there. Now, my focus

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Speaker 2: My other knee was dislocated in a street altercation. I

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Speaker 2: sit down on this bench seat outside of cabab shop.

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Speaker 2: They're like, settle down, Niggy settled down, and I was like,

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Speaker 2: So I did that, had that operation, and did that rebuild,

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Speaker 2: Mean absolutely, and I guess having been through a knee

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Speaker 2: I approached it differently, and sure enough, I got it

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Speaker 2: So I just went back to boxing, but then turned

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Speaker 2: in boxing that'd have a go at my trainer, not Jason,

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Speaker 2: That's exactly. But did that and did well for a

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Speaker 2: That was great, But ultimately my passion was always muy Thai,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you spent time when you talk about muy Thai,

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Speaker 1: And I really want to talk about this for a moment,

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Speaker 1: because you go from basically the double knee surgery to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look absolutely so. And then just before we get

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Speaker 2: And during that time, Jason actually died. Jason passed away.

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Speaker 2: He shot himself. I remember getting the phone call the

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Speaker 2: my first real dealings with death was at that time,

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Speaker 2: to have that my old brother figure train our best friend,

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Speaker 1: Can I sorry, Yeah, forgive me? Can you forgive me

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Speaker 1: I feel that it's necessary it was to be said,

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Speaker 1: So I just I can't help it at the moment,

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Speaker 1: just processing what you just said. In reference to losing

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Speaker 1: literally loved, adored, who saved your life predominantly from your

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Speaker 1: you and you could have been the one that was

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Speaker 1: getting buried. Did it have an impact on your whole

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Yeah, definitely. How did I feel? I was devastated.

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Speaker 2: I was devastated. It was the one person that truly

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Speaker 1: three three piece komba or four pits and you just go, oh.

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00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the speed and the liver, the accuracy of everybody.

431
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, all right, but that's that's why he

432
00:26:11,681 --> 00:26:14,041
Speaker 1: is who he is and why he is the waves

433
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,761
Speaker 1: and you know you're to me like that, like that

434
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 1: mirror image. Obviously you're Iggy McGowan, but you know, like wow,

435
00:26:22,561 --> 00:26:27,201
Speaker 1: you know where your mental state in life is and

436
00:26:27,481 --> 00:26:32,281
Speaker 1: your ability and knowing who you are. That's right there.

437
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: Sums it up for me. You know, that is just

438
00:26:36,441 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: some scary stuff. That was.

439
00:26:38,241 --> 00:26:41,041
Speaker 2: Yeah, look that was excellence. That was you know, when

440
00:26:41,201 --> 00:26:44,041
Speaker 2: just getting back into moy Thai, having left the old

441
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,201
Speaker 2: life behind. And then I had a phone call one

442
00:26:47,281 --> 00:26:50,041
Speaker 2: night before this is before I moved to the Gold Coast,

443
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,641
Speaker 2: so that was when just coming up on weekends and

444
00:26:54,241 --> 00:26:56,801
Speaker 2: I had a phone call from my older sister Tess

445
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,281
Speaker 2: one night. I'd been working in a gym down there

446
00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: near y Amber and I just got home and I

447
00:27:03,961 --> 00:27:07,521
Speaker 2: knew that there was some bad news. I could just

448
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,801
Speaker 2: tell with Mum and dad the energy in the place.

449
00:27:11,921 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: I got on the phone to Test and she said, ah, Iggy,

450
00:27:19,521 --> 00:27:24,561
Speaker 2: I've been diagnosed with melanoma. I've been diagnosed as it's terminal.

451
00:27:24,681 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: They said I've only got months to live. And I

452
00:27:30,001 --> 00:27:33,601
Speaker 2: was I was distraught. You know, we knew that there

453
00:27:33,681 --> 00:27:37,281
Speaker 2: was Tested had a mole cut off her back. She

454
00:27:37,441 --> 00:27:41,561
Speaker 2: was pregnant at the time and she had a mole

455
00:27:41,761 --> 00:27:46,321
Speaker 2: in between her shoulder blade. It was only small, and

456
00:27:46,801 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 2: she always had her skin checked. She never would go

457
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,681
Speaker 2: out in the sun, but she had it checked one

458
00:27:51,721 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: time during the pregnancy and they said, we don't like

459
00:27:54,281 --> 00:27:57,041
Speaker 2: the look of this, so they cut it out. They

460
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: called her back in the next day and they said,

461
00:27:58,921 --> 00:28:00,961
Speaker 2: we really don't like this. They took out a big

462
00:28:01,001 --> 00:28:04,641
Speaker 2: horseshoe shape, took out all her lymph nodes under one arm,

463
00:28:04,761 --> 00:28:08,961
Speaker 2: half lymphans of them, and they said, we think we've

464
00:28:08,961 --> 00:28:11,281
Speaker 2: got it all, but there's one more test that we

465
00:28:11,321 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: can do, but it might interfere with the fetus. And

466
00:28:15,201 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 2: she said, well, I don't want to interfere with the fetus.

467
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,681
Speaker 2: And they said that's okay. We can do it once

468
00:28:18,721 --> 00:28:21,521
Speaker 2: you give birth. We're ninety nine percent sure that we've

469
00:28:21,521 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 2: got everything, that it's all good. She gave birth to

470
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,281
Speaker 2: my niece Mabel, and the next day they did this test.

471
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,561
Speaker 2: They put the dye in through the body and it

472
00:28:33,681 --> 00:28:37,561
Speaker 2: just lit up like a Christmas tree, every major organ

473
00:28:37,761 --> 00:28:41,001
Speaker 2: of bones, everything, And that's when I got that call

474
00:28:41,081 --> 00:28:44,201
Speaker 2: from test to say that it was terminal and only

475
00:28:44,281 --> 00:28:48,561
Speaker 2: months to live, and so I dropped everything and I

476
00:28:48,601 --> 00:28:51,401
Speaker 2: moved down to Sydney with family to be around Tests

477
00:28:51,481 --> 00:28:56,041
Speaker 2: and to nurse her leading up to her passing. Was

478
00:28:56,081 --> 00:29:01,481
Speaker 2: down there for a nine month period. I didn't want

479
00:29:01,481 --> 00:29:06,281
Speaker 2: to leave Testa's side, so I just said that's it.

480
00:29:06,761 --> 00:29:09,641
Speaker 2: I'm here no matter what, I'm not going anywhere. So

481
00:29:09,801 --> 00:29:12,521
Speaker 2: went from being in hospital to then into palliative care,

482
00:29:13,721 --> 00:29:18,841
Speaker 2: and Tess was Tess was like a saint. Tess was

483
00:29:19,681 --> 00:29:26,481
Speaker 2: the most beautiful person. She was always so nurturing, always

484
00:29:26,561 --> 00:29:30,561
Speaker 2: so considerate of other people. Growing up, Tess is the

485
00:29:30,601 --> 00:29:35,361
Speaker 2: second eldest, so played a massive role in raising the

486
00:29:35,441 --> 00:29:40,761
Speaker 2: younger kids. It just came naturally to her, that motherly nature.

487
00:29:41,401 --> 00:29:46,361
Speaker 2: And she'd always wanted to She'd always just really wanted

488
00:29:46,401 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: to have a child and be a mum. So she

489
00:29:49,801 --> 00:29:54,841
Speaker 2: met a lovely guy, Victor, and then that's when she

490
00:29:54,921 --> 00:30:00,321
Speaker 2: was pregnant got diagnosed. So it was a massive and

491
00:30:00,361 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: if people ask me about a turning point in my life,

492
00:30:03,081 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: I know I've mentioned a few, but this was the

493
00:30:07,281 --> 00:30:14,201
Speaker 2: solidifying line. This is when I made a choice. And

494
00:30:15,641 --> 00:30:19,001
Speaker 2: so nurse Tests in that time and just saw a

495
00:30:19,041 --> 00:30:22,841
Speaker 2: stripped bear of all the things that she loved. I

496
00:30:22,881 --> 00:30:28,321
Speaker 2: saw test go from being able to nurse Mabel. I

497
00:30:28,361 --> 00:30:30,921
Speaker 2: remember we had a six month birthday party for Mabel

498
00:30:30,961 --> 00:30:32,681
Speaker 2: because we knew the Test wasn't going to be around

499
00:30:32,721 --> 00:30:37,281
Speaker 2: for her first If Mabel was upset. It got to

500
00:30:37,281 --> 00:30:39,281
Speaker 2: a point where Test wasn't able to nurse her anymore,

501
00:30:39,321 --> 00:30:43,681
Speaker 2: she didn't have the strength. Just seeing her deteriorate, and

502
00:30:43,881 --> 00:30:49,561
Speaker 2: the hours and hours and days of horrific pain where

503
00:30:49,881 --> 00:30:52,521
Speaker 2: the tumors and things are getting bigger, pushing on the

504
00:30:52,601 --> 00:30:56,081
Speaker 2: spinal cord, pushing on nerves to them not being able

505
00:30:56,121 --> 00:31:00,801
Speaker 2: to walk, seeing all these things happen, and the torment

506
00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:06,641
Speaker 2: in my own mind, arguing what was happening. I would

507
00:31:06,641 --> 00:31:10,481
Speaker 2: be there night after night after night, trying to will

508
00:31:10,521 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: myself to be able to change places with tests and

509
00:31:14,081 --> 00:31:16,561
Speaker 2: trust me, you can't do it. If anyone could, I

510
00:31:16,561 --> 00:31:18,641
Speaker 2: would have done it. I put in a lot of effort,

511
00:31:19,601 --> 00:31:25,841
Speaker 2: but you simply can't. And to then one day I

512
00:31:25,881 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 2: went for a walk to get some fresh air. I

513
00:31:28,521 --> 00:31:32,281
Speaker 2: was in front of Bondi Beach. I was walking along

514
00:31:32,401 --> 00:31:36,201
Speaker 2: just thinking, why the fuck am I still here? Why

515
00:31:36,241 --> 00:31:38,761
Speaker 2: am I still here? Like I don't even want to

516
00:31:38,801 --> 00:31:43,121
Speaker 2: be here, and Tess's life has been taken from her.

517
00:31:44,481 --> 00:31:48,041
Speaker 2: Why am I still here, and I had this epiphany.

518
00:31:48,081 --> 00:31:51,041
Speaker 2: It's the only way I could describe it is I

519
00:31:51,161 --> 00:31:53,561
Speaker 2: just had this message that you're here to be a leader,

520
00:31:53,641 --> 00:31:59,921
Speaker 2: You're here to guide people. And it was because I've

521
00:32:00,041 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: walked these predict these LIFs that have predictable endings. That

522
00:32:04,601 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: was the mess that came to me in an instant,

523
00:32:06,441 --> 00:32:10,161
Speaker 2: that I was here to be a leader. Then my

524
00:32:10,281 --> 00:32:12,121
Speaker 2: mind came back in and was like, who am I

525
00:32:12,201 --> 00:32:16,121
Speaker 2: meant to lead? So I quickly forgot about that, kept

526
00:32:16,201 --> 00:32:20,001
Speaker 2: focusing on tests, and as it got toward the end,

527
00:32:20,081 --> 00:32:22,801
Speaker 2: about a week before tests passed, she said that she

528
00:32:22,961 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: wanted to ask something of people. So we all gathered

529
00:32:26,481 --> 00:32:31,761
Speaker 2: in the room around Tess's bed and everyone said, what

530
00:32:31,921 --> 00:32:34,521
Speaker 2: is it? Test? What is it? She said, I want

531
00:32:34,521 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: to ask you all something. Everyone's like anything anything.

532
00:32:38,281 --> 00:32:38,601
Speaker 1: Tests.

533
00:32:39,841 --> 00:32:42,521
Speaker 2: She said, I want to ask you to look after

534
00:32:42,641 --> 00:32:46,881
Speaker 2: each other. And everyone said, of course, of course, yes, yep,

535
00:32:47,121 --> 00:32:50,281
Speaker 2: of course tests. And she said, and the second thing

536
00:32:51,001 --> 00:32:54,721
Speaker 2: is I want you to look after yourselves. Everyone said,

537
00:32:54,761 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 2: of course, of course yes. Tests. And now I walked

538
00:32:58,441 --> 00:33:02,601
Speaker 2: out of there. Breton, I thought, this is my sister's

539
00:33:02,681 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: dying wish. I'm going to honor her dying wish, and

540
00:33:09,001 --> 00:33:12,881
Speaker 2: I sat with it, and I thought, look after each other. Well,

541
00:33:13,161 --> 00:33:15,001
Speaker 2: I can only be in one place at a time.

542
00:33:16,001 --> 00:33:18,681
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll start with the second part, look after yourself.

543
00:33:19,081 --> 00:33:22,681
Speaker 2: I thought, that's it. From this moment forward, I'm going

544
00:33:22,761 --> 00:33:26,321
Speaker 2: to be completely self sufficient. I'm going to be balanced.

545
00:33:26,841 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm going to be one hundred percent self sufficient, and

546
00:33:32,481 --> 00:33:34,761
Speaker 2: so I put all of my focus to that. Once

547
00:33:34,841 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: test passed, my full focus was on honoring test as

548
00:33:38,801 --> 00:33:42,681
Speaker 2: dying wish. So I was all about just being balanced

549
00:33:42,761 --> 00:33:47,041
Speaker 2: and having self rule. I was fortunate enough to come

550
00:33:47,081 --> 00:33:49,921
Speaker 2: across a great teacher who was able to pass on

551
00:33:50,521 --> 00:33:54,841
Speaker 2: principles and practices from an esoteric tradition and really help

552
00:33:54,961 --> 00:33:59,801
Speaker 2: me refine everything that I've learned over the years around

553
00:33:59,841 --> 00:34:06,841
Speaker 2: the mind and transformation and operate from those principles to

554
00:34:06,881 --> 00:34:10,721
Speaker 2: this day. But that was my focus, and that was

555
00:34:10,761 --> 00:34:16,081
Speaker 2: what I chose to take from Tessa's death. I chose

556
00:34:16,121 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: to take it as well. I am still here, what's

557
00:34:19,521 --> 00:34:22,441
Speaker 2: this going to mean to me? Is it going to

558
00:34:22,441 --> 00:34:24,161
Speaker 2: be the end? Is it going to be the worst

559
00:34:24,161 --> 00:34:26,121
Speaker 2: thing ever? Am I going to use it as an

560
00:34:26,161 --> 00:34:29,721
Speaker 2: excuse to fall in a heap? And I decided no,

561
00:34:30,441 --> 00:34:34,721
Speaker 2: that that's it. I'm here. This is a gift. I'm

562
00:34:34,721 --> 00:34:38,081
Speaker 2: going to live every day to the full. I'm going

563
00:34:38,121 --> 00:34:41,201
Speaker 2: to be the best I can possibly be in honor

564
00:34:41,241 --> 00:34:44,641
Speaker 2: of Tessa's life and in honor of Tessa's death, that

565
00:34:44,761 --> 00:34:48,321
Speaker 2: no matter what, I'm here to live fully every day

566
00:34:48,361 --> 00:34:51,401
Speaker 2: like a celebration, and that that is the greatest gift

567
00:34:51,641 --> 00:34:54,161
Speaker 2: that I can give to Tessa's spirit.

568
00:34:54,721 --> 00:34:57,481
Speaker 1: Other I just want to thank you right now for

569
00:34:57,881 --> 00:35:04,921
Speaker 1: your vulnerability and opening up and sharing is because that's

570
00:35:05,681 --> 00:35:13,801
Speaker 1: that's time that's very powerful and just for me personally,

571
00:35:14,321 --> 00:35:17,521
Speaker 1: I see you post some things on your page with

572
00:35:17,561 --> 00:35:21,081
Speaker 1: your beautiful niece, and I've just my heart's full watching

573
00:35:21,121 --> 00:35:26,201
Speaker 1: his dance sing, and I just I always I don't know,

574
00:35:26,321 --> 00:35:28,641
Speaker 1: I just had this. I just went, Wow, what a

575
00:35:28,681 --> 00:35:31,801
Speaker 1: cool uncle, What a cool uncle. I just every time

576
00:35:31,801 --> 00:35:35,321
Speaker 1: I see these little moments that you have shared, and

577
00:35:35,401 --> 00:35:37,641
Speaker 1: I know I can see and read how close that

578
00:35:37,681 --> 00:35:42,241
Speaker 1: you are now it makes absolutely million percent sense. But

579
00:35:42,681 --> 00:35:45,081
Speaker 1: you know those beautiful little moments that you share together,

580
00:35:46,281 --> 00:35:48,561
Speaker 1: and just me be me, you would just go what

581
00:35:48,881 --> 00:35:51,521
Speaker 1: a great uncle, what a cool uncle, with no knowledge

582
00:35:51,561 --> 00:35:56,281
Speaker 1: of how in depth. So for me hearing you now

583
00:35:56,601 --> 00:35:59,681
Speaker 1: open up and share this, that little thing that I've

584
00:35:59,681 --> 00:36:03,441
Speaker 1: always sort of been observant of has just made complete

585
00:36:03,441 --> 00:36:07,121
Speaker 1: sense and my heart's full, and yeah, I just I'm

586
00:36:07,201 --> 00:36:08,841
Speaker 1: a bit struck mate, to be honest.

587
00:36:08,641 --> 00:36:13,401
Speaker 2: With no thanks brother, Look, look I'm grateful. I thank

588
00:36:13,441 --> 00:36:18,641
Speaker 2: you for creating this opportunity. And I know I skipped

589
00:36:18,641 --> 00:36:21,001
Speaker 2: over that part of the story. It was obviously one

590
00:36:21,041 --> 00:36:25,721
Speaker 2: of the if not the most monumental thing in my life.

591
00:36:25,841 --> 00:36:29,481
Speaker 2: You know, was was that period that was? It was

592
00:36:29,561 --> 00:36:33,841
Speaker 2: one of the most meaningful experiences. And an interesting thing

593
00:36:33,881 --> 00:36:36,561
Speaker 2: is sometimes if people asked me the question, what's the

594
00:36:36,561 --> 00:36:39,961
Speaker 2: most beautiful thing I've ever seen, and my answer is

595
00:36:41,921 --> 00:36:47,681
Speaker 2: always my sister's dad, And some people find that really strange.

596
00:36:47,721 --> 00:36:49,881
Speaker 2: But what I mean by that is it was the

597
00:36:49,881 --> 00:36:53,881
Speaker 2: most powerful, the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. It

598
00:36:53,961 --> 00:36:57,321
Speaker 2: was the most impactful thing I've ever seen. And why

599
00:36:57,441 --> 00:37:05,361
Speaker 2: is because Test died beautiful. Test was so selfless, She

600
00:37:05,681 --> 00:37:09,881
Speaker 2: conducted herself, carried herself with grace right through to the end,

601
00:37:09,961 --> 00:37:13,801
Speaker 2: the whole time when being stripped bare of the things

602
00:37:13,841 --> 00:37:16,481
Speaker 2: that she loved, being able to nurse her own daughter,

603
00:37:18,201 --> 00:37:21,241
Speaker 2: not being able to walk everything, no matter what, Test's

604
00:37:21,241 --> 00:37:24,761
Speaker 2: focus was on other people, everyone else, not once did

605
00:37:24,801 --> 00:37:28,041
Speaker 2: she complain. And I was with her every day, not

606
00:37:28,241 --> 00:37:32,321
Speaker 2: once when she had every reason to say this is unfair,

607
00:37:32,361 --> 00:37:36,961
Speaker 2: this is awful. Nothing, absolute grace, And I'll give you

608
00:37:37,001 --> 00:37:41,801
Speaker 2: an example. There could be and there often were days

609
00:37:41,881 --> 00:37:44,441
Speaker 2: on end where no amount of morphine, no amount of

610
00:37:44,881 --> 00:37:47,921
Speaker 2: breakthroughs and pain medication, it wouldn't touch the sides of

611
00:37:48,841 --> 00:37:51,921
Speaker 2: the pain that test was going through. So it would

612
00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:54,441
Speaker 2: be in there trying to get tests to do some breathing,

613
00:37:55,041 --> 00:37:57,481
Speaker 2: trying to get her to do some different meditations just

614
00:37:57,641 --> 00:38:01,761
Speaker 2: to try and get through the pain. And then it

615
00:38:01,921 --> 00:38:06,761
Speaker 2: seemed like Tess was getting some sleep after days and

616
00:38:06,841 --> 00:38:09,321
Speaker 2: her eyes would be closed. She'd be laying there and

617
00:38:09,361 --> 00:38:12,561
Speaker 2: I'd think, finally she's getting a bit of rest. So

618
00:38:12,601 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: I'd go to leave the room, and as I got

619
00:38:15,521 --> 00:38:19,921
Speaker 2: near the door, i'd hear a soft voice say I

620
00:38:21,801 --> 00:38:24,841
Speaker 2: and I'd go back over to her and I'd say,

621
00:38:24,841 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: what is it, Test?

622
00:38:25,561 --> 00:38:25,921
Speaker 1: What is it?

623
00:38:25,961 --> 00:38:28,041
Speaker 2: Do you want me to call the nurse? And she'd

624
00:38:28,041 --> 00:38:34,121
Speaker 2: say her eyes closed? Are you okay? She'd ask if

625
00:38:34,121 --> 00:38:37,401
Speaker 2: I was okay, and I'd say if I am test Test,

626
00:38:37,521 --> 00:38:43,321
Speaker 2: please please get some rest, please, and she'd say okay,

627
00:38:44,561 --> 00:38:46,601
Speaker 2: and I'd give her a kiss on her forehead and

628
00:38:46,681 --> 00:38:50,641
Speaker 2: then she would sleep like that gives me goosebumps right now.

629
00:38:51,121 --> 00:38:54,721
Speaker 2: You know that to be that selfless, to still have

630
00:38:54,801 --> 00:38:59,641
Speaker 2: that sort of awareness there for someone else and how

631
00:39:00,081 --> 00:39:01,681
Speaker 2: they're experiencing things.

632
00:39:01,521 --> 00:39:05,001
Speaker 1: Oh god, I really do.

633
00:39:07,401 --> 00:39:11,121
Speaker 2: So. I'm grateful for the examples that I've had in

634
00:39:11,161 --> 00:39:13,321
Speaker 2: my life. I've been very fortunate to have.

635
00:39:13,441 --> 00:39:16,761
Speaker 1: It's almost like she's gifted you this opportunity at being

636
00:39:16,841 --> 00:39:19,161
Speaker 1: your best version of you. You know, I like, and

637
00:39:19,201 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: she's and I please, I'm not minings in any other way,

638
00:39:22,001 --> 00:39:25,841
Speaker 1: but with love, She's sacrificed her own hardship and pain

639
00:39:26,041 --> 00:39:29,081
Speaker 1: to ask the best version of you and also obviously

640
00:39:29,281 --> 00:39:32,361
Speaker 1: your family members, but for you that we're talking about

641
00:39:32,441 --> 00:39:36,321
Speaker 1: right now, you know, and I can't help it. Go

642
00:39:36,401 --> 00:39:40,441
Speaker 1: back and think, had you have succeeded that night or

643
00:39:40,521 --> 00:39:44,201
Speaker 1: any other time, how broken that beautiful sister of yours

644
00:39:44,241 --> 00:39:46,761
Speaker 1: would have been losing her brother.

645
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Speaker 2: You know, like, wow, Look, I'm grateful for it all,

646
00:39:52,041 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 2: every single bit of my story, the bits that I've

647
00:39:55,001 --> 00:39:57,241
Speaker 2: mentioned and the things that we haven't had a chance

648
00:39:57,321 --> 00:40:00,121
Speaker 2: to I'm grateful for it all because it has shaped

649
00:40:01,921 --> 00:40:05,921
Speaker 2: the man that I am, and ultimately it's I've chosen

650
00:40:06,361 --> 00:40:09,201
Speaker 2: for it to mean. And that's what it really comes

651
00:40:09,241 --> 00:40:13,401
Speaker 2: down to, is accepting responsibility and choosing, Okay, what is

652
00:40:13,401 --> 00:40:15,121
Speaker 2: this going to mean to me? And what am I

653
00:40:15,161 --> 00:40:17,921
Speaker 2: going to do with it? And to me, it's that

654
00:40:17,961 --> 00:40:20,801
Speaker 2: epiphany that I had in front of Bond Diabetes during

655
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Speaker 2: Tessa's death, that here to be a leader, here to

656
00:40:25,161 --> 00:40:28,281
Speaker 2: be an example. You know that my life is the teaching.

657
00:40:28,921 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: I'm here because yep, I've walked these different I've lived

658
00:40:32,441 --> 00:40:35,281
Speaker 2: these different lives. I've walked the path and I've come

659
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Speaker 2: out the other side, and I'm here to show people

660
00:40:40,641 --> 00:40:43,401
Speaker 2: you can do it too. That I'm not special, that

661
00:40:43,521 --> 00:40:46,161
Speaker 2: anything I've been able to overcome, anything I've been able

662
00:40:46,201 --> 00:40:49,121
Speaker 2: to face, that you can do it too. If you

663
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Speaker 2: accept responsibility and you commit to change, you can turn

664
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Speaker 2: everything around. You can make things better. And so that

665
00:41:00,481 --> 00:41:02,561
Speaker 2: is my work today. And now I'm fortunate enough to

666
00:41:02,961 --> 00:41:07,041
Speaker 2: work with people of all walks of life, from mums

667
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Speaker 2: and dads to teens, kids, corporate groups, CEOs, business people,

668
00:41:15,081 --> 00:41:21,201
Speaker 2: people that have addiction, people that are suicidal, anxiety, depression, abuse,

669
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Speaker 2: you name it, and I love it all because being

670
00:41:26,001 --> 00:41:30,041
Speaker 2: able to be that support for someone that guide for

671
00:41:30,081 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: someone to help guide people to complete power within themselves.

672
00:41:34,081 --> 00:41:37,161
Speaker 2: That's all I was ever craving my whole life. I

673
00:41:37,201 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 2: was wanting to be free from the dependency on things

674
00:41:40,481 --> 00:41:43,721
Speaker 2: outside of me, free from and that's what I stopped

675
00:41:43,761 --> 00:41:50,081
Speaker 2: after Tessa's death. Drugs, alcohol, sugar, you name it. Stopped

676
00:41:50,121 --> 00:41:55,241
Speaker 2: everything completely. And I've been that way for twelve thirteen,

677
00:41:55,321 --> 00:41:59,641
Speaker 2: nearly fourteen years now, and I came to balance.

678
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Speaker 1: This is the secret to why you've got such myself body.

679
00:42:02,721 --> 00:42:06,641
Speaker 1: You ripped up machine here. There's not a wrinkle. There's

680
00:42:06,681 --> 00:42:08,641
Speaker 1: not a wrinkle in you. The color in your skin

681
00:42:08,761 --> 00:42:11,361
Speaker 1: is so beautiful and glowing. I'd like to know what

682
00:42:11,441 --> 00:42:14,801
Speaker 1: men's products you And when you take that shirt, Holy

683
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Speaker 1: Tom Dooley, you're.

684
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Speaker 2: That's a that's a byproduct of living.

685
00:42:22,441 --> 00:42:24,641
Speaker 1: This way, you know, that's this is when it all

686
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Speaker 1: shifts into this amazing human.

687
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Speaker 2: That's it. But I guess, well, it's reflective, isn't it?

688
00:42:31,721 --> 00:42:34,001
Speaker 2: And I know that I'm not. I'm not saying everything

689
00:42:34,041 --> 00:42:41,321
Speaker 2: you said was true, but legend so funny, so funny. Look,

690
00:42:41,441 --> 00:42:45,441
Speaker 2: it's but to be healthy, to be well, to be balanced,

691
00:42:46,241 --> 00:42:50,561
Speaker 2: was everything I ever wanted. And that's why when people

692
00:42:50,801 --> 00:42:52,881
Speaker 2: see the way that I eat. For example, I made

693
00:42:52,881 --> 00:42:55,721
Speaker 2: a very particular diet. I don't eat any rubbish, and

694
00:42:55,721 --> 00:42:58,721
Speaker 2: people will say, come on, why don't you have a

695
00:42:58,801 --> 00:43:01,201
Speaker 2: cheap meal or whatever, And it's I don't need a

696
00:43:01,241 --> 00:43:04,961
Speaker 2: break from feeling great like I love being balanced. I'm

697
00:43:05,121 --> 00:43:08,681
Speaker 2: I'm healthy, my mind is sharp and clear. I know

698
00:43:08,801 --> 00:43:11,361
Speaker 2: how I'm going to feel. I have great energy, great focus.

699
00:43:12,081 --> 00:43:14,641
Speaker 2: You know, from someone that was once given all these

700
00:43:14,681 --> 00:43:19,441
Speaker 2: different diagnosis and medications for things, to be able to

701
00:43:19,481 --> 00:43:22,841
Speaker 2: get off all of that and heal myself and have

702
00:43:23,001 --> 00:43:28,881
Speaker 2: complete control over myself is the most liberating, most empowering

703
00:43:28,921 --> 00:43:31,281
Speaker 2: thing ever. It was all I ever wanted, all the

704
00:43:31,361 --> 00:43:36,561
Speaker 2: self medicating through the different the different acts and different

705
00:43:36,641 --> 00:43:39,161
Speaker 2: things I would do to finally come to this place

706
00:43:39,161 --> 00:43:42,761
Speaker 2: of peace within myself, to be able to cultivate presence,

707
00:43:43,081 --> 00:43:45,241
Speaker 2: to be able to move through and make my days

708
00:43:45,281 --> 00:43:48,961
Speaker 2: of meditation. Yes, I have my formal practices of things,

709
00:43:48,961 --> 00:43:53,441
Speaker 2: my daily rituals, but ultimately it's about being able to

710
00:43:54,161 --> 00:43:58,161
Speaker 2: make the day into a meditation. And that's what I

711
00:43:58,201 --> 00:44:02,201
Speaker 2: love teaching and sharing with people and helping people to

712
00:44:02,281 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: come to that place of peace, no matter whether there

713
00:44:06,321 --> 00:44:08,241
Speaker 2: as I said, no matter what walk of life they're

714
00:44:08,321 --> 00:44:11,081
Speaker 2: coming from, no matter what age they are, to be

715
00:44:11,121 --> 00:44:14,521
Speaker 2: able to have that control over themselves and understand that

716
00:44:14,881 --> 00:44:19,001
Speaker 2: they are the creator of their life and how how

717
00:44:19,041 --> 00:44:23,521
Speaker 2: to do that, meaning how to actually with intention consciously

718
00:44:23,601 --> 00:44:25,881
Speaker 2: create who it is that you wish to be in

719
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Speaker 2: the world and how you would like to be able

720
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Speaker 2: to present to the world and interact with life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that and it's having a massive impact

722
00:44:35,121 --> 00:44:37,761
Speaker 1: on a lot of people's lives. And look, I think,

723
00:44:37,841 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, for anybody out there that's looking for that edge,

724
00:44:42,081 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm going to ask you to give

725
00:44:45,441 --> 00:44:50,041
Speaker 1: his contacts because you're talking to somebody who is authentic,

726
00:44:50,561 --> 00:44:54,161
Speaker 1: has lived as we've just heard through. You know, I

727
00:44:54,161 --> 00:44:56,281
Speaker 1: don't know what much more you could live through to

728
00:44:56,361 --> 00:44:58,041
Speaker 1: be where you are and do what you do like

729
00:44:58,121 --> 00:45:04,081
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's it's life. It's a real life, and

730
00:45:04,121 --> 00:45:08,601
Speaker 1: you're here today because of those experiences. For anybody out

731
00:45:08,641 --> 00:45:11,841
Speaker 1: there that's looking to reach out, where can we find you?

732
00:45:14,041 --> 00:45:16,801
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, So people can reach out through my

733
00:45:16,961 --> 00:45:21,921
Speaker 2: socials at Iggy McGowan on Instagram or Facebook or my

734
00:45:22,001 --> 00:45:26,681
Speaker 2: website Iggy McGowan dot com. I'd love to hear from anyone. Yeah,

735
00:45:26,721 --> 00:45:28,881
Speaker 2: I feel free to shoot me a DM. But any

736
00:45:28,921 --> 00:45:33,841
Speaker 2: inquiries or even if anyone in your audience that watches this,

737
00:45:33,881 --> 00:45:37,921
Speaker 2: I'd love to hear your feedback, reach out. It's just

738
00:45:38,001 --> 00:45:41,761
Speaker 2: great to know that things can have an impact on

739
00:45:41,881 --> 00:45:45,201
Speaker 2: people if you can relate. Yeah, shoot me a message.

740
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. And look, I can vouch as

741
00:45:48,681 --> 00:45:50,881
Speaker 1: I said in earlier in the chat, there's definitely been

742
00:45:50,921 --> 00:45:53,441
Speaker 1: times there where I've chosen to make a call and

743
00:45:53,481 --> 00:45:57,201
Speaker 1: reach out to Egy, whether it be a short conversation,

744
00:45:57,401 --> 00:45:59,721
Speaker 1: a few words or long. You know, it's always been

745
00:45:59,761 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: something that's been relevant and has stuck up here. And

746
00:46:04,641 --> 00:46:08,681
Speaker 1: you know, for anybody who, as we said earlier, that

747
00:46:08,761 --> 00:46:11,201
Speaker 1: may feel that there is no other option, there definitely is.

748
00:46:11,281 --> 00:46:14,561
Speaker 1: And we hope that this journey of you being here

749
00:46:14,601 --> 00:46:17,601
Speaker 1: today and listening to Iggy's story and being a part

750
00:46:17,641 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: of what we deliver through the Clink gives you hope

751
00:46:21,041 --> 00:46:24,561
Speaker 1: and gives you inspiration to know that there are great tools.

752
00:46:24,921 --> 00:46:27,881
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you and before we we we

753
00:46:27,961 --> 00:46:30,361
Speaker 1: do sum this up, because it's been an amazing chat

754
00:46:30,401 --> 00:46:32,841
Speaker 1: and our feel that we could really go in so

755
00:46:33,041 --> 00:46:36,641
Speaker 1: much longer. I'd love to be able to from our chat,

756
00:46:36,961 --> 00:46:40,801
Speaker 1: leave two powerful tools for our guests. Because you are

757
00:46:40,921 --> 00:46:44,401
Speaker 1: episode one of season seventeen, and I'm so honored to

758
00:46:44,401 --> 00:46:48,041
Speaker 1: still be here. It's like a lifetime in the podcasting industry.

759
00:46:48,161 --> 00:46:52,281
Speaker 1: So you know, we're aiming for five million downloads very soon,

760
00:46:52,481 --> 00:46:56,121
Speaker 1: and you know, to have you leading from the front

761
00:46:56,161 --> 00:47:00,881
Speaker 1: as you do. But also to season seventeen, let's give

762
00:47:01,161 --> 00:47:03,241
Speaker 1: too wonderful tools that you live by.

763
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Speaker 2: Okay, excellent. To start with something very simple, and that

764
00:47:09,761 --> 00:47:15,521
Speaker 2: is the statement to yourself, I am responsible. It's a

765
00:47:15,601 --> 00:47:20,681
Speaker 2: mental stance I am responsible because it's only when we

766
00:47:20,721 --> 00:47:25,641
Speaker 2: accept responsibility that we are then stepping into the driver's seat,

767
00:47:25,641 --> 00:47:29,161
Speaker 2: that we're actually accepting that we are the creators of

768
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Speaker 2: our life. And so when you make a statement to yourself,

769
00:47:33,241 --> 00:47:36,641
Speaker 2: I am responsible and you condition yourself in that way,

770
00:47:36,961 --> 00:47:42,481
Speaker 2: what you're doing is you're accepting your power responsibility. So

771
00:47:42,481 --> 00:47:46,801
Speaker 2: many people they dismiss responsibility. They don't want to accept

772
00:47:46,841 --> 00:47:49,761
Speaker 2: any responsibility for their life and how their life looks.

773
00:47:49,761 --> 00:47:52,481
Speaker 2: And that's a victim that's what people look. It's a

774
00:47:52,561 --> 00:47:56,641
Speaker 2: victim mindset. Whereas when you state to yourself the truth,

775
00:47:56,921 --> 00:48:02,281
Speaker 2: which is I am responsible, that means I have the

776
00:48:02,321 --> 00:48:06,161
Speaker 2: ability to respond. It means it's not what's happening that

777
00:48:06,241 --> 00:48:09,521
Speaker 2: creates how I feel. It's my response to what is happening.

778
00:48:10,241 --> 00:48:13,001
Speaker 2: I am able to respond powerful to this. What's this

779
00:48:13,121 --> 00:48:15,321
Speaker 2: going to mean to me? Okay, I'm going to look

780
00:48:15,321 --> 00:48:16,841
Speaker 2: at it and I'm going to see the advantage. I'm

781
00:48:16,841 --> 00:48:20,041
Speaker 2: going to see the opportunity. I'm going to respond in strength.

782
00:48:21,121 --> 00:48:24,601
Speaker 2: I am responsible. That's a mental stance. Every day I

783
00:48:24,721 --> 00:48:28,161
Speaker 2: begin my day out on my balcony or wherever I

784
00:48:28,201 --> 00:48:32,281
Speaker 2: am in posture and breath. I align my body in

785
00:48:32,321 --> 00:48:36,721
Speaker 2: a particular posture and connect with my breath. Once I've

786
00:48:36,761 --> 00:48:40,921
Speaker 2: done that, I then say to myself, I am responsible.

787
00:48:41,361 --> 00:48:45,201
Speaker 2: I create my day, and it is this mental stance

788
00:48:45,401 --> 00:48:49,241
Speaker 2: to say, as I move through the day, I choose

789
00:48:49,281 --> 00:48:52,921
Speaker 2: how I respond. So it's not life that determines how

790
00:48:53,001 --> 00:48:55,721
Speaker 2: I feel. It's not the challenge, it's not other people,

791
00:48:56,481 --> 00:49:00,081
Speaker 2: it's me. I'm in the position of power. So that's

792
00:49:00,241 --> 00:49:04,881
Speaker 2: the first tool. I am responsible, and the second is

793
00:49:05,801 --> 00:49:09,601
Speaker 2: a ritual of reflection and correction. So one thing that

794
00:49:09,641 --> 00:49:12,121
Speaker 2: I get anyone that I work with it obviously everything

795
00:49:12,801 --> 00:49:16,161
Speaker 2: I teach, I live myself. I have a meeting with

796
00:49:16,241 --> 00:49:19,561
Speaker 2: myself every day, I'll have a meeting with myself the

797
00:49:19,601 --> 00:49:22,601
Speaker 2: same as I would with a client, where I sit

798
00:49:22,681 --> 00:49:27,081
Speaker 2: and I look within myself, I go okay. So to

799
00:49:27,201 --> 00:49:30,601
Speaker 2: reflect is to bring awareness to things. That's what conscious

800
00:49:30,641 --> 00:49:34,881
Speaker 2: living is. If you're not bringing awareness to why you're

801
00:49:34,881 --> 00:49:37,761
Speaker 2: doing what you're doing, why you're thinking, what you're thinking,

802
00:49:38,081 --> 00:49:42,481
Speaker 2: then you're just going through life on autopilot, constantly reacting

803
00:49:42,521 --> 00:49:45,521
Speaker 2: to things, giving your power away doing things just because

804
00:49:45,521 --> 00:49:49,481
Speaker 2: that's what you've always done. So I have this daily

805
00:49:49,561 --> 00:49:53,961
Speaker 2: ritual where I will reflect. It's always great to write

806
00:49:54,001 --> 00:49:55,641
Speaker 2: it down as well. If you can have a book

807
00:49:56,041 --> 00:49:59,081
Speaker 2: to actually write things down, it makes it tangible. Then

808
00:49:59,121 --> 00:50:03,841
Speaker 2: you can actually see what you've been thinking. So some

809
00:50:03,961 --> 00:50:07,761
Speaker 2: simple questions ask yourself when you do this. Brett's got

810
00:50:07,761 --> 00:50:08,481
Speaker 2: his book there.

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Speaker 1: Properly, and this is given an ownership of the fact

812
00:50:14,801 --> 00:50:17,281
Speaker 1: that this book is in my hands. I am presenting

813
00:50:17,321 --> 00:50:18,921
Speaker 1: it to you, and I am going to make a

814
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Speaker 1: conscious to write each day in this book after this day.

815
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Iggy.

816
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Speaker 2: I'm glad you've got it there. That's great. This is

817
00:50:27,881 --> 00:50:30,281
Speaker 2: the nudge that you've needed. And this is the thing

818
00:50:30,441 --> 00:50:33,441
Speaker 2: is like, is when you make this commitment and so

819
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Speaker 2: I'll have some people that will say to me, really

820
00:50:35,641 --> 00:50:39,681
Speaker 2: every day, I'm like, yes, every day. We're talking about

821
00:50:39,721 --> 00:50:42,921
Speaker 2: the very thing that creates your life, the very thing

822
00:50:42,961 --> 00:50:46,361
Speaker 2: that creates your emotions. And people they're looking at it

823
00:50:46,401 --> 00:50:48,961
Speaker 2: like it's a chore. This isn't a chore. It's a gift.

824
00:50:49,601 --> 00:50:54,561
Speaker 2: You get to actually create how you want to feel

825
00:50:54,561 --> 00:50:58,041
Speaker 2: and what actions you're going to take. So yes, every day.

826
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Speaker 2: So back to the ritual itself. It's asking yourself some

827
00:51:02,121 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 2: really simple questions, how did I go today? How did

828
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Speaker 2: I feel? Get clear on that and actually write it down.

829
00:51:11,681 --> 00:51:15,721
Speaker 2: Everyone can can write down how they felt. Then it's

830
00:51:15,761 --> 00:51:19,881
Speaker 2: asking what was I thinking that was creating these emotions?

831
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Speaker 2: Because it is our thoughts to create our emotions. So

832
00:51:23,681 --> 00:51:26,201
Speaker 2: what it does is it brings awareness. It gets you

833
00:51:26,281 --> 00:51:29,321
Speaker 2: to start listening to your mind. What is that voice

834
00:51:29,321 --> 00:51:33,681
Speaker 2: in the head saying, paying attention to what this narrative is,

835
00:51:33,721 --> 00:51:39,601
Speaker 2: what these thoughts are to Then the next question, what

836
00:51:39,801 --> 00:51:42,961
Speaker 2: is the correction of this thought? And this is the

837
00:51:43,001 --> 00:51:46,841
Speaker 2: most important part, right, excuse me. A lot of people

838
00:51:46,881 --> 00:51:49,841
Speaker 2: will talk about journaling and they'll say, ah, a journal,

839
00:51:49,881 --> 00:51:51,881
Speaker 2: a journal, But a lot of the time, what they're

840
00:51:51,881 --> 00:51:55,001
Speaker 2: actually doing is just reliving what they did in the day.

841
00:51:55,041 --> 00:51:58,601
Speaker 2: They will just write down, like a story, what they

842
00:51:58,641 --> 00:52:02,041
Speaker 2: did that day. If you're just doing that and that alone,

843
00:52:03,081 --> 00:52:05,281
Speaker 2: I don't see that as being helpful because you're just

844
00:52:05,361 --> 00:52:09,441
Speaker 2: reliving what you just lived, rather than that's the step

845
00:52:09,441 --> 00:52:13,601
Speaker 2: in the process, write it down as of mind dump. Okay.

846
00:52:14,161 --> 00:52:17,121
Speaker 2: But then there has to be this processing of things,

847
00:52:17,161 --> 00:52:20,361
Speaker 2: this actual correction of things, where you're looking at okay,

848
00:52:20,361 --> 00:52:23,161
Speaker 2: how did I feel right? What was I thinking that

849
00:52:23,321 --> 00:52:26,841
Speaker 2: was creating that? To then be able to correct the thought,

850
00:52:27,281 --> 00:52:29,601
Speaker 2: because just because you're thinking something doesn't mean that it

851
00:52:29,681 --> 00:52:32,721
Speaker 2: is the case. A lot of the time, it's fearful,

852
00:52:32,841 --> 00:52:37,521
Speaker 2: it's limited, it's disempowering. So to then be able to

853
00:52:37,561 --> 00:52:39,921
Speaker 2: correct the thought, and you could ask yourself, what else

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Speaker 2: What's the most most powerful way I could look at this?

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Speaker 2: And so then you're able to write down that correction

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Speaker 2: of thought. And when you do this through repetition and

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Speaker 2: you make it a daily practice, you're one taking control

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Speaker 2: over your emotions. You're bringing awareness to it, and you're

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Speaker 2: also bringing awareness to what is creating it way of thinking,

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Speaker 2: and then through repetition you're able to correct that thought.

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Speaker 1: Absolute you absolutely and I'm going to take everything you

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Speaker 1: just said then and put that in my toolbox because

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Speaker 1: I needed that as well. I'm yeah, ext truly grateful.

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Speaker 1: It's it's been an honor, Aggie. You're an absolute inspiration mate,

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Speaker 1: and I know that you'll play it down and oh no,

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Speaker 1: I just dive love, but I'm telling you now, mate,

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Speaker 1: you're inspiring many and there's so much good coming out

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Speaker 1: of the work that you're doing. Firstly, once again, thank you,

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Speaker 1: and I respectfully and honored to have you as a

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Speaker 1: guest as my number one for season seventeen. I think

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Speaker 1: everybody will get a lot out of today's conversation and guys,

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Speaker 1: please reach out. We'll also put in our socials, your

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Speaker 1: networking connections and so on your website and what have you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you everybody who's taking the time. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: all the new listeners. It's an honor to have you

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Speaker 1: guys here, and please feel free to go back to

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Speaker 1: season one and come through because there's over two hundred

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Speaker 1: episodes there of amazing people and this this season is

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Speaker 1: just going to be fantastic. Twenty twenty five is our

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Speaker 1: year two sideways Surf. We can't do this without you

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Speaker 1: each week having our backs. We love you. Thank you

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Speaker 1: very much. Pod Shake You're awesome and remember guys getting

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Speaker 1: into sideway surf will jump online and grab your clink

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Speaker 1: ink apparel. Be the best you can be, one percent

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you so much, brend I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: You're a good man and I really do. I'm grateful

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Speaker 2: for this opportunity, so thank you, and thanks to all

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Speaker 2: for listeners as well.

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Speaker 3: Photo Record, don't try and make you uncomfortable, photo Record,

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