1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: The three sixty UBI League from every angle boards he 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: by it selfast joining me again the great Gordon Tallis. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: It's been the journal Australian buzzer roth. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: Field and Paul Crowley and the big show is here 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Nas up against j W h. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: This is set to. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Be an absolute ripper off, a battle between the big men. 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: Gordion, Yeah, absolutely like these two guys. Both of them 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: are enforces. Jared's been doing it for a long time 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 3: and Nelson well what is he six foot six, six 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 3: foot seven and one hundred and thirty something kilos. So 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 3: when the two big boys claude, I believe this is 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: where it'll be one So I reckon they both of 14 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 3: them give both of their forward packs a lot of confidence, you. 15 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 4: Know, and they can change the momentum, you. 16 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 5: Know, the pair, Apart from the on field rivalry, off 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 5: the field, I don't think they've got a lot of 18 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 5: time for each other. And Mike Carriyanas from Brent Rueda 19 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 5: got a story in the Telegraph website now apparrently a 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 5: couple of years ago in the New Zealand camp they're 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 5: both wearing the jersey and they've had a flare up 22 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 5: it training and It got quite nasty and the two 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 5: of them had to be separated and Jared's apparently threatened 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 5: him and Nelson doesn't back down. You'll see it crawls 25 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 5: and that it will shake that stadium. Those two on 26 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 5: each other, it's their job. You know, they're the enforces 27 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 5: of their team. It wouldn't surprise you at all. The 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 5: story apparently goes that that they were running each other. 29 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 5: Nelson raised his bumpers a couple of times. Jared warned 30 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 5: him the first time, warned him the second, and then 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 5: they came together and had to be pulled apart. You'd 32 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 5: hate to be back and who's going to win with you? 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: And if they love lost there and you see that 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: when they take each other on, like there is something 35 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: that means more to both Jared and Nelson when they 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: go head to head, they seem to rise to the occasion. 37 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 5: This is one game with these two on the field, 38 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 5: you'd expect to sin be. Something is going to happen 39 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: between those two plays. It won't be pretty mate. 40 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: Not necessarily. 41 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 6: The line for the Roosters, I said it the other 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 6: night and I'll say it again. The Roosters have to 43 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 6: be very careful that they don't cross the line because 44 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 6: they're disciplined. They can't afford to go down to Melbourne 45 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 6: and lose anyone for ten minutes. They can't afford to 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 6: go down to Melbourne and give unnecessary penalties away. But 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,359 Speaker 6: in saying that, like you said, they have to be 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 6: ferocious and they have to take Melbourne on through the middle, 49 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 6: and it starts with it starts with Jared on Big 50 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 6: Nelson and you know, they. 51 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 7: Just have to stay within the rule. 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 2: Right, The key is balance for the Roosters. 53 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,679 Speaker 1: Be tough, be ferocious, but don't give penalties away and 54 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: don't make errors because that's been their achilles he all 55 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: over the past few seasons. 56 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 8: Now. 57 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Roosters coach Trent Robinson had his game face on today 58 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: before the Rooster's jumped on the plane to Melbourne. 59 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 9: We need to hold that intensity about us and we 60 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 9: have the players that enjoy playing at that level and 61 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 9: that's important to our game. You set a tone over 62 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 9: many years about how to play that role, and he's 63 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 9: one of you that will play an intense game and 64 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 9: that's our vision for the game. Gets top Teddy, Yeah, 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 9: that's definitely there and it's in the past. That won't 66 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 9: make any difference tomorrow night. That won't make any difference 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 9: at all. The time's coming and we need to make 68 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 9: sure that's tomorrow. We're a much better team this year. 69 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 9: I think we've proven that on performances. We're really steely 70 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 9: in our approach. That's why it's really key for us 71 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 9: to be really confident in what we're going to do 72 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 9: tomorrow night. We're looking at as an opportunity and we 73 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 9: want to attack that. People underestimate ted does it so 74 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 9: consistently well. When times get difficult, Teddy turns up always, 75 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 9: always not sometimes, always. 76 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: Storm up again. 77 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: Sir Russ's life and I break free right here on 78 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Fox League Friday, six point thirty PM. A steely focus 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: from coach Robinson. Right there, he looks fired up and 80 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: he looks ready to rock on. 81 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 4: Well, that's what you want from your coach, don't you. 82 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 2: You know? 83 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: What is it one out of nine or twenty. So 84 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: he's gone down to Melbourne and we saw Teddy daughter 85 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago. He got a bit prickly, 86 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: So you know, I think it's us first ven They 87 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: got their backs against. 88 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 4: The wall, and I like it from you. 89 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 7: They have to give themselves a chance too. 90 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 6: Sorry, buzz They they went down there last year, wasn't 91 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 6: it in a finals game they got beaten on the bell. 92 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 6: I think that day they might have had four or 93 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 6: five out of their regular starters. Now admittedly Melbourne were 94 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 6: missing I think the un missing Pappenhausen and Hughes. But 95 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 6: it came down to the wire and you look through 96 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 6: this rooster's side and even without Brandon Smith and Sam Walker, 97 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 6: Gordy and I sat out the back before and years 98 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 6: the old Ron Massey theory where you sit down with 99 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 6: the two teams and you go through the and we 100 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 6: picked it as you would probably pick out of a 101 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 6: combined side. Seven of those roosters starting thirteen would probably 102 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 6: still make the combined side. 103 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 7: Like this is an even clash. 104 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 10: You know, at the back end of the year. 105 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: I haven't seen James Tedesco in this form, this fresh, 106 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 5: this fire up for a few years, and I've put 107 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 5: it down to the fact that he was brushed for 108 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 5: state of origin and the rest his body got over 109 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 5: that period of time where he's normally a worry, he's 110 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 5: normally captaining New South Wales and I looked at some 111 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 5: of his stats today. You know he's made one hundred 112 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 5: and sixty seven tackle busts this year. Now, that is 113 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: far more than any other player in the con He 114 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 5: is in you could nearly say career best for and 115 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 5: into this year. 116 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: He is an explosive player, but he's their most reliable 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: and most consistent. That's what these coach Trent Robinson just 118 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: alluded to before and in that interview, he gets surprised 119 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: with the criticisms or I suppose other teams or media 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: second guessing him because he just loves the way that 121 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: he produces every week. But if you look at the roosters, 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: forwards are great and they aimed up against last week 123 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: against mainly Joey marnh was a big difference. Now you've 124 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: been talking for weeks about Joey Marner and he stepped 125 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: up and he's been quiet the last couple of months. 126 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: He created more. 127 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: Opportunities, took pressure off the creative players, and Sandon Smith 128 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: and Luke Kerey so also was brilliant. 129 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: So if they're pack aims up and those two. 130 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: Guys who are just big athletic outside backs with X factor, 131 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: then it gives time and space to Kiriy and sand 132 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: and Smith and those two probably need it right right 133 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: now up against Melbourne. They're not the players that Melbourne 134 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: have gotten the spying. Kiri's and are both great last 135 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: week because of their forwards and because of the likes 136 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: of Marno to Desco and Sulky. So if all goes 137 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: to plan and they produce what they did last week, 138 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: then it gives sand and Smith and Kiri an opportunity 139 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: to cause an upset Gordy. 140 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I reckon that. The Rusters, it's just a 141 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: running thread, you know, without Walker. 142 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: Obviously, he's a passing threat, He's got a lot of 143 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 3: tricks in his bag, He's got a great little short 144 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 3: king game. But I just think the Rusters now simplifying 145 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 3: their game and they're just running and they're just like 146 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: Tedesco's probably one of the best board runners and like 147 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 3: so as Marnu. 148 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 4: So I give them a real chances. 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 5: In Yeah, you talk about those two roosters centers and 150 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 5: playing each side, I would suggest howth and even Nick 151 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: Meeni have been probably a little bit better, more consistent 152 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 5: throughout the whole season. 153 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 4: Been awesome. 154 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: And you know what, It's funny you mentioned that because 155 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: they have been awesome and they've probably exceeded expectation from everyone, 156 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: as all Melbourne players do. This is their biggest challenge. 157 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: This is where the Roosters can gain an advantage. You 158 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: know that they cancel on Mini and. 159 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 6: How I was thinking Marno's up against Howeth and how 160 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 6: Earth has had a breakout season, but this is a 161 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 6: big test when Marnu is back in form and the threats. 162 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 6: I agree with your brain that become both both centers 163 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 6: are a big threat and especially the backfight for the rooster. 164 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 6: But yeah, a big job for this young man who's 165 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 6: had you know, he's had huge raps on him for 166 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 6: three or four years. He came into this season many thought, well, 167 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 6: it's make or break Melbourne had basically told him that 168 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 6: shape up will ship out, and he's shaped up and 169 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 6: he's proven himself to be one of the stars. 170 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 2: Of He sure hasn't. 171 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: We're touching that a little bit later because he's had 172 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: an incredible year. I think he played in the back 173 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: row coming through the grades and big wraps on him, 174 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: but he was quite for a few years. But he's 175 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: had a fantastic season now without Smith and Walker for 176 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: the final series, but also six months now it's going 177 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to be longer six months. 178 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: In the next year, the Roosters are going to be 179 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 2: missing these. 180 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: Two key playmakers, two of their bigger marquee players. Do 181 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: we know if the Roosters are trying to sign anyone 182 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: else in there to replace them, because it's going to 183 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: be a significant amount of time where they're not going 184 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: to have these two next year. 185 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll lived someone Chad Townsend, which I found and 186 00:08:54,160 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: we knew that buzz No, well sorry you asked me who. Well, no, 187 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 5: they're going to have to run with Sam and Smith 188 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 5: and kind of Watson. 189 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: What do you sorry? 190 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 10: Body, So there's long work steading you. 191 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 2: I think it's getting to you. Listen, I'm sorry, but 192 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: this is my point, right. 193 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: The point is is that we know they've signed them, 194 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: but that's not usually how the Roosters operate. They usually 195 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: they won't sit back and set off for mediocrity, right, 196 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: they want to win premierships. 197 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 5: You can't overnight just bring in a half back replacement 198 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 5: for Sam Walker that they don't exist unless they can 199 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: do a deal with s George and they give us 200 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 5: ben Hunt for one year and we'll send you a 201 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 5: couple of you know, but there's no light for like swap. 202 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 6: Course, what I think is I agree with both completely. 203 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 6: When when the Roosters go into a season, they don't 204 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 6: go in there to wait for Sam to return in 205 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 6: May and Brandon Smith in July and think, well, we 206 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 6: can give them that big a start and still hope 207 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,719 Speaker 6: to finish top four and the aim has to be 208 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 6: finished top four. And you mentioned Ben Hunt. I know 209 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 6: that this has been knocked down by the Roosters, but 210 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 6: it kind of if it could happen, it would make 211 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 6: sense because Brandon Smith is off contract at the end 212 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 6: of next year and while Hunt could come in and 213 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 6: easily fill in for Sam Malmanninger Queensland. Everyone seems to agree, 214 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 6: despite the fact that Ben Hunt spent his career playing halfback. 215 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 6: His best position is hook and he could he could 216 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 6: be an absolute. 217 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 2: He covers both positions. 218 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 7: He would whether it happens, I don't know. 219 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: Nik Polis and said that they're not looking for any 220 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: major signings. So he's saying that, So that's let's make 221 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: that clear. 222 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 5: They'll have to get someone because Marno is going swalowing hard. 223 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 5: He's going, that's right, tear is going. You know, they're 224 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 5: going to have to bring in some new troops. But 225 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: who I think Marno will come back. He'll be back 226 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 5: in the comp by journ after his stint in Japanese rugby. 227 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 10: But I don't know. I can't answer your question. I 228 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 10: apologize down to but I just don't see what the 229 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 10: things A lot of men through. 230 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 7: Sorry, they have a lot of blakes coming through that 231 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 7: will you know, up the top thirty. 232 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 10: But yeah, I don't know if they're ready. The thing 233 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 10: I'll say about Smith is he showed. 234 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: Me last week behind a good pack those rolling middles 235 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 5: that he's just about up for it. 236 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: Well, let's move on. Thanks for the scoop there, buzzers, 237 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: all right. 238 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: Craig Bellamy was also tense as the stormating to make 239 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: their first grade final in four years. 240 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 8: What did you take on the way the finals have 241 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 8: been refereed The Roosters can maybe use it to kind 242 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 8: of maybe win ugly. 243 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I'm not quite sure. Well, you could sort 244 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 11: of read into it. But you start trying to do that, 245 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 11: you know, you start taking you your mind away from 246 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 11: things that you should be concerned about. 247 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 7: My players, the senior players who may be at the 248 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 7: pub next. 249 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 11: Year, and I guess at the m's been a lot 250 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 11: about them, you know, Like I'm not in there, so 251 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 11: I don't know. Yeah, obviously it's yeah, you know, Jerry's 252 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 11: been a wonderful play for that club for a long time, 253 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,559 Speaker 11: so they're going to miss it. Will next year, but 254 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 11: they're not going to miss it mom or not because 255 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 11: he's going to do. 256 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 12: These storm Rus's classes are always pretty intense. As a coach, 257 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 12: how do you sort of feel about those matchups? 258 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 11: Just concern ourself with what we need to concern ourself with. 259 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 11: That's all. 260 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 12: Proud noises glancing through the speakers. I guess it's that 261 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 12: a tactic for tomorrow. It's going to be thirty thousand here. 262 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 11: I don't be a tactic, but they're going to be 263 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 11: for your people, they're going to be fairly noisy, so 264 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 11: you know, we need to adapt to those conditions or 265 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 11: that situation. 266 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: There would be a lot to describe it. 267 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: Like Trent robertson. 268 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: Craig Bellamy also very focused there in that pre match interview. 269 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but it just feels like this 270 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: sets up to be a pretty pretty big game. Not 271 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: only the players but the coaches are really focused. They're 272 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: ready to go, and we all know how much. This 273 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 1: is writing on this game, but you can see it. 274 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's a fair bit of pressure on them. 275 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: You know, they've been sitting there, They've been one of 276 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: the better sides all year, They've had a week off, 277 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 3: they're fresh and they should win their game. 278 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 4: So I think that adds to the pressure. 279 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: When you've got the Roosters who had a great win 280 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 3: last week, They've got the momentum. They've been sitting there 281 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 3: weight and you don't know whether you can just turn 282 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 3: it back on are that momentum? 283 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 2: You know? 284 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 4: I think they'll be up for the challenge. But Craig. 285 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: Craig did look a little bit nervous there a gent. 286 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 5: We see him all night and we talk about the 287 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,559 Speaker 5: enforcer on enforce from the halves on the halves, you know, 288 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 5: the coaching box and the tactics and the game of 289 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 5: chess they play and what it's going to be very important. 290 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 10: I looked at their records early in the year. 291 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 5: Bellyate's got a sixty nine point seven percent win record, 292 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 5: which is nearly unheard of from a man of his experience. 293 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 5: Robbo has got sixty three point five. They've both won 294 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 5: three premierships. What about head to head head to head, 295 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: I think belly ache as well. In front, particularly in 296 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 5: recent times our crawls. 297 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: You were big on the Storm, not relying on marquee 298 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: signings and just developing from within. 299 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 6: It's an amazing statistic when you go back and look 300 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 6: over the course of Craig Bellamy's career at the Storm 301 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 6: and from the greatness that he built out of the 302 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 6: early years to the Cameron Smith, Billy Slater, Coop and 303 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 6: Kronk and again this year I wade a few weeks ago. 304 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 6: If you go through that Storm side at the moment, 305 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 6: the only marquee player, well not even marquee but top 306 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 6: top line player that he signed with Zada Coats and 307 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 6: the rest of them they've even got as kids all 308 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 6: they've got them off the scrap hoop from other clubs. 309 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 6: And we're not just talking about the wish Arts and 310 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 6: the Anderson and those sort of players. Jerome Hughes is 311 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 6: the best example of Craig Bellamy's magnificent coaching. Where he 312 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 6: was I think he played one game at the Titans 313 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 6: and won at the Cowboys, and. 314 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 7: If he stayed at those clubs, who knows what may 315 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 7: have been. 316 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 6: But he goes to Melbourne and he was basically the 317 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 6: third string fullback and after four or five years of 318 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 6: Craig Bellamy coaching, he turns into a Dally Hen Medal 319 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 6: favorite for the half back position, and honest to God, 320 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 6: you put him up there with Nathan Cleary is the 321 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 6: best half back in the game. 322 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 7: And that's Craig Bellamy. That's what he does. He coaches 323 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 7: the best out of every player that walks over. 324 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: They've lost a lot of players and when they first 325 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 3: come together, I thought Chris Anderson did a great job 326 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: because they got pulled him from everywhere. But I think 327 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: Craig Bellamy, when he leaves, that will be the biggest 328 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: loss that they've ever had. And they've lost some amazing shows, 329 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 3: like they've lost Cameron Smith. I think he's an immortal, 330 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 3: like they've lost Billy Slater, They've lost Glen Lass, like 331 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: Greg English, but he will be the biggest loss. 332 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 4: Of that life. 333 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: I think the Jack Howard situation of Pitti Mine is 334 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: a Melbourne storm. He was a young kid who had 335 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: big wraps on him and didn't quite make the imprint 336 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: that they thought he would and have developed as quick 337 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: as they would have liked. 338 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: Played in the Brisbane Queensland Cup. 339 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: I think even played maybe in the back row, and 340 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: a lot of other teams would have threw him on 341 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: the scrap, people who just said, you know what, I 342 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: don't think he's going to reach the potential. You know, 343 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: go somewhere else. They put time and effort into him. 344 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: They trusted him, and they've put him in the centers 345 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: and they put belief in him. And look at the 346 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: look at what he's given back. And the players in 347 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: Melbourne just love being in Melbourne. They love playing for 348 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: the Melbourne Storm. They love playing for Craig Bellamy and 349 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: they and he can see that and they give back 350 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: and they give back through their performances. 351 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 10: Well all of them. 352 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 5: Sure, we all struggled a bit at the West Tigers. 353 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 5: You know, he didn't do anything special. Nick Mooney was 354 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: a good football. 355 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 10: Not as good as he is now. 356 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: The only sign that surprised me, and they've spent for 357 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 5: a big name was Stefan you toy commander because the 358 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 5: Bulldogs were off for him, really big brush. They sort 359 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 5: of broke a rule about budget signings with that. So 360 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 5: you must understand the opinion. 361 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 4: Bell's got on all right. 362 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: Six pm Saturday, Carnella face their biggest test in years 363 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: when they take on the Panthers for a spot in 364 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: the Grand Final. 365 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: The stage is set. Let's go. 366 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 8: Saturday Night Live from six o'clock the second NRL Grand 367 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 8: Final qualifier. 368 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: Who goes through these. 369 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 10: Battle hardened Panthers? 370 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: They had dead ways to score, These Panthers or. 371 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 8: The pride of the Shire, the Cronulla Sutherland Sharks. Both 372 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 8: clubs came into the Big League in nineteen sixty seven 373 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 8: and the Panthers are out to be the first instant 374 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 8: George in the nineteen sixties to win four Premierships. 375 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 4: In a row. 376 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 7: The Sharks. 377 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 2: The Sharks have won just the one, but what a 378 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: one it was. 379 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 8: Today it's this little fellow doing the business. 380 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: He's having the night of his career. 381 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 8: Brayden Tricky Trindle. In just a few weeks, he's gone 382 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 8: from renegade to rugby league royalty, from purgatory to pinner, 383 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 8: turning not just his life but the whole joint around 384 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 8: three hundred and sixty degrees or thereabouts. 385 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 2: For Penrith, it's the. 386 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 8: Usual suspects bordering greatness. Nathan Cleary is only one Nathan Cleary. 387 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 8: Dylan Edwards's far is trouble here playing his one hundred 388 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 8: and fiftieth first grade game, and Isaiah Yo why yo 389 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 8: yo Yo? 390 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: The Panthers and. 391 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 8: The Sharks Live Saturday night, straight after the Mattie John Show, 392 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 8: right here on Fox League. 393 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Panthers up against the Sharks, Life and I Break Free 394 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: right here Saturday, six pm on Fox League. 395 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: It sets up to be a massive game buzz. 396 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: But late last night we had some breaking news that 397 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: Raymon and Iro were in doubt. Can you give us 398 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: some updates on that? 399 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: Well, I think Raymian's highly highly unlikely and as a chance, 400 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: but taller Kai and Atkinson are on standby. They've been 401 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 5: pulled out of the lower grades and ready to slide 402 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 5: in with You know, Cronulla are very lucky to have 403 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 5: two experience plays Owill Atkinson certainly filled in strong last time, 404 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 5: but it would be a massive blow to lose both 405 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 5: of them. 406 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 10: Raymond has been has been really good. 407 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 5: Look, he was in contention for Origin for a little 408 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: while earlier in the year, and yeah, look, I hope 409 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 5: he I think he's highly unlikely. 410 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 10: I hope he gets through. 411 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 6: He saw the difference that Ramian made last week because 412 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 6: he missed the previous week, hadn't he and Hero has 413 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 6: been one of the most improved players. 414 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 7: In the competition this year. 415 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 6: To be a huge, huge loss for Cronulla to lose 416 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: those two starting centers. 417 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 5: Do you know why they're not playing bus just injuries? 418 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 5: Forty You know that, you know they're carrying injuries from 419 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 5: last week. Raymond's been crooked for two or three weeks. 420 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 5: He came back last week and you know, look that 421 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 5: they'll do it. They're not needle injuries like Turbo or 422 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 5: Cooper Kronk. Did you know their strains and they're had one. 423 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 7: Some ankle in a bicep. 424 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: I think it is all right. 425 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: We had James who've been the lab last week while 426 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: carry onas was in the Fox League Lab last night. 427 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 2: Crawls, you've been in there today. 428 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 7: I was crunching the numbers yesterday actually Broth Yeah, yeah, yeah. 429 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 6: I was talking to Aaron Wallace and I asked him 430 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 6: about Braden Trindle's stats and basically his try involvements and 431 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 6: what we discovered. It was quite exceptional really because people 432 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 6: we talk about that game last week being his breakout moment, 433 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 6: but what these stats show is throughout the season in 434 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 6: his nineteen games. Braiden Trindle actually has the best average 435 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 6: for try involvements of any player in the competition. Now 436 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 6: James Tedesco actually has the most, but on an average 437 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 6: of his nine en games, he's the best. Nathan Cleary's 438 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 6: second best. It's marginally behind, and of course Nathan's had 439 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 6: his injuries this year. But it shows that this guy 440 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 6: has now become the number one man at Cronulla. 441 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 2: That's sure. 442 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 8: It does. 443 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. So you think there's going 444 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: to be a bit of a bidding water, then. 445 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 7: I really do, and I know I agree of the result. 446 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 6: I get what you're saying, and I agree with what 447 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 6: you're saying that you know, to offer someone of his 448 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 6: experience and what he's done so far outrageous money would 449 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 6: be ridiculous. But we work in a world where the 450 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 6: salary cap comes down to supply and demand, and clubs 451 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 6: we've seen it in the past, are prepared to gamble, 452 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 6: gamble on talent and you have to pay over the 453 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 6: odds to get a bloke at your club line. 454 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: I think he's worth minimum six or seven, that's worst case, right, 455 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: He's on thround and now, so he's worth at least doubles. 456 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 2: I've got no doubt about that. 457 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: The only difference I would say, you know, when you 458 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: look at those stats and numbers, is it doesn't have 459 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: big moments in there. You know, it doesn't have clutch plays, 460 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: and it doesn't have premierships, you know, And that's that 461 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: adds a lot of value to a contract, you know. 462 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: That takes the halves to you know, an extra two 463 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: or three hundred thousand and maybe four, you know. 464 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 2: So that's the only thing. 465 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: And I think it's a good opportunity for him this week. 466 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: As I said, he's had a magnific year. He'd be 467 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: great for a lot of clubs. But just on this, 468 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: if he's an main man now, if he's a superseded Nico, 469 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,360 Speaker 1: they can't lose him, right you wouldn't. 470 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 4: They have to sign him? 471 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 7: You wouldn't think so, because like can they can they 472 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 7: sign him? 473 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: If he if he goes up, if he's worth nine 474 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: hundred sight. 475 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 7: Buzz, you would have a better idea for me. 476 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 6: What I'm saying is I reckon there will be clubs 477 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 6: out there that maybe not go nine hundred. But look 478 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 6: at Jackson Hastings for instant what Newcastle paid a Ridge. 479 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 10: And this bloke's worth more. Look there's talking about Yeah, 480 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 10: there's did it. He's talked. 481 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 5: The Broncos are interested as well. The Coronolla problem is 482 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 5: Fana Blake a rise next to you on a million, 483 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: Nicko's on a million and not playing like a million 484 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 5: dollar player. Atkinson's off contract, Trendle's off contract, five other 485 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: players are so that they do have an absolute squeeze 486 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 5: like all clubs, and I think the CAP's going to break. 487 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 10: Atkinson or Trendall will have to go. 488 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 2: They'll lose Atkinson, surely they're going to have to buzz. 489 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 6: Can they afford to lose Drindle? Like if Trindle's Tringle's 490 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 6: got that, he's got that. I know he's only played 491 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 6: what is it about sixty or seventy first grade games, 492 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 6: but he's got that Cody Walker's style about him where 493 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 6: you get the feeling he's such a silky player and 494 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: he's just a natural footballer and he will improve with age. 495 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 6: And because of the struggles we've seen with Nicol in 496 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 6: recent times and the talk that maybe down the track 497 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 6: he might not be the seven anymore, can the club 498 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 6: afford to get rid of this squad. 499 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 7: Or let this guy go? 500 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 10: Yeah. 501 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 5: What impressed me most about those stats Shore put up 502 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 5: was that Cleary plays in an international team basically with 503 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 5: champions all alongside him. We saw the Kangaroo squad today, 504 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: not one Cranolla player in it. So he's done it 505 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 5: with inferior players to what clearly plays alongside every week. 506 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 10: He's very special. 507 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 4: Just back on that. 508 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: So ready between the lines and the male from the 509 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: journeys this week is that Nick is not a seven 510 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: and he's six or one, which means they cannot lose 511 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 1: Trindle even more so like they can't. So it sounds 512 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: like Cornella I have identified Trindle as their seven. So 513 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: you build your team around the seven. So Niko goes 514 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: to six or one, which means that they're. 515 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: Going to keep him. They have to keep him. 516 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: Really, that's that's just from the week we've had and 517 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: every journal that's been there's. 518 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 5: Other players they've got to keep two breaks, you know, 519 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 5: Camen McGinnis has got to stay, Blake Brawley's got to stay, 520 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 5: you know, Britain. Necora needs to stay, Ronaldo needs to stay. 521 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 5: Raiment you know, mate, some caps just don't work. There's 522 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 5: no you know, you can't treat the cat it's just 523 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 5: a fact. And if they do invest all their money 524 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: in him and Phanel Blake and Hind, it's kind of. 525 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 2: Weak do that. 526 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: Clubs do do that. 527 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 6: You look at Melbourne's spine, you know the money that 528 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 6: they spend on Pappenhouse and Munster, Hughes and Grant and 529 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 6: then they build against months. So that's what it comes 530 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 6: down to, how much faith they have in Trindle and 531 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 6: whether they back him to be that man. 532 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 5: Having I spoke to him last Saturday after that blockbuster 533 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 5: game he had. He wants to stay. He was genuinely 534 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 5: wanting to stay. The club stood by him. He's an 535 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 5: loyal Indigenous boy, he really is. He will do everything 536 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 5: possible to stay, but he's got to check what the market. 537 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: He must likely take a little bit less to stay. 538 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: You think, I think he want to keep the team now, 539 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: buzz Shark Park upgrade. What's going on here? 540 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 5: Oh well, nothing's going on their break and it's really disappointing. 541 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: We hear every year there's a threat to take the 542 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 5: Grand Final out of Sydney from the Independent Commission unless 543 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 5: money goes to suburban grounds and we just do. 544 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 4: A year by year deal. 545 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 5: Cronulla that ground down there is useless. It cannot hold 546 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,199 Speaker 5: even nurl and holds thirteen thousand crawls. We're up against 547 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 5: Paramatta and thirty towns, more thirty so et cetera. What 548 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 5: Penrith did was give their ground to Venues New South Wales. 549 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 5: It's not theirs and they came in and built a 550 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 5: three hundred million they're doing it now. Cronulla have to 551 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 5: give that stadium to Venues New South Wales say it's 552 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 5: yours to run, will lease to one hundred years peppercorn 553 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 5: lease and we'll play out of there. That is the 554 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 5: only way they're going to get government money because they're 555 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 5: a privately owned organization. 556 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 10: A chance of oh look that that that's one of 557 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,479 Speaker 10: the ideas they're looking at. 558 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 4: What's the perfect size for out there? 559 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 10: You only need doing twenty thousand. 560 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: You want to get finals there? Yeah you can. 561 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we can. 562 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 10: Host an rl W games in decent sheds. 563 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: And he's part of the deal that you get a 564 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 2: good seat or a special suite or. 565 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 5: Something that it's not part of the deal. No, Brath, 566 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 5: I pay for my membership every year. I don't go 567 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 5: to the sweet I'm still make Chad Townsend. 568 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 4: All right, don't. 569 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: Catch up, and Cleary has enjoyed the free flowing footy 570 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: the finals has produced. 571 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: Take a look. 572 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 10: I've heard the ref say it before the. 573 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 13: It gets like this in finals because the teams are 574 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 13: a little bit more disciplined than so, yeah, you know, 575 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 13: I think that's it can only be a good thing. 576 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 13: But obviously there needs to be penalties or sixty games 577 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 13: then they'll call it. So it's definitely better. Players like 578 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 13: to play that way, fans like to watch it. You know, 579 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 13: the team sort out, sort out the result. I think 580 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 13: that's what everyone wants. 581 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 11: A bit of ruin around Ivan. Is it hard to 582 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 11: execute Panthers style footy if we get this kind of 583 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 11: weather on Saturday, No. 584 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 13: I don't think so. I think it's a bit of 585 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 13: a challenge for everyone. I think our style sort of 586 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 13: suits any topper conditions. That's what you'd like to think 587 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 13: anywhere and be both same for both teams. 588 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 2: Can the Penrith Panthers be stopped? 589 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 5: My heart says yes, and I'm chipping Carnala for the 590 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 5: only reason I have is that Penrith are not as 591 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 5: good as they worked for the last three years. Take 592 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 5: out Crichton, kick our Burton corus our lane capable may 593 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 5: hop good. 594 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: Maybe the rain one helped Carona as well. 595 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 5: It will if it becomes a slog and you know, 596 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 5: you take out this little epid extra skill that Penrith 597 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: have got need all that. 598 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 10: I do know that and davery cow. 599 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 5: Talk about Fitsy's coach and the other day, I think 600 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 5: he will have them at peak performance, and they'll need 601 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 5: to be at peak performance, and they'll need to catch 602 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 5: Penris slightly off and Penris that's been desperately weakened. 603 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 6: Cross ge whiz did you watch the semifinals first, just 604 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 6: see a couple of weeks, Liam Martin, I know, mate, 605 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 6: I know what you're saying. They did look lethargic coming 606 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 6: into the finals, but when the blow torch was applied 607 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 6: to them in that game against the Roosters that I 608 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 6: think Liam Martin summed it up for me the way 609 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 6: that all the talk that week was about Crichton and 610 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 6: he went out and said, well, we'll see who's the 611 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 6: man to know. And Nathan Cleary the way that he 612 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 6: just has an ability to stand up in any moment 613 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 6: of the game, and even Ivan as a coach when 614 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 6: you think about it, and this is a conversation we've 615 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 6: had too People look at Nathan clear and they say, well, 616 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 6: if Nathan Cleary was at Melbourne or if he was 617 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 6: at Brisbane, you know they'd win several competitions in a row. 618 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 7: No, they wouldn't, No, they wouldn't. 619 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 6: What Ivan's done out there is quite incredible because even 620 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 6: when you look back at Craig Bellamy and having the 621 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 6: champions that he had previously, he didn't win the camp 622 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 6: every year. This guy's won three in a row and 623 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 6: going for four. It's an incredible achievement. 624 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: The big challenge for Kronella as whether they believe that 625 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 3: they can win. If they believe that I believe to win, 626 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: of course, yeah, but every side goes out there, but 627 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 3: then when push comes to shove, when they're there and 628 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 3: if they're behind by ten, do they have the belief 629 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 3: that what they've been training for. 630 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: Across For the life of me. 631 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, I couldn't for the life of me. Melbourne and 632 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 10: Melbourne this year we know. 633 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 2: Them pretty different story. 634 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 6: I couldn't for the life seeing the Raiders beat the 635 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 6: Roosters like in a game of football. 636 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 7: Like Gordy said, if they turn up with that belief. 637 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 6: And mentality that they can do it, and they and 638 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 6: they truly believe anything in the game of rugby league 639 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 6: is possible. 640 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: Dream They led the Cowboys twenty four Neil last and 641 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 5: then I think switched to next week and let them back. 642 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: Would you like to have a wager? 643 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 10: But I do not want to have a wage. I 644 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 10: thank you very much, Brace, but I appreciate the offer. 645 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: It's not even a succulent Chinese meal. 646 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 10: Now you talk. Now you're talking, all right, Plenny. 647 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: Want to come and Saturday at five pm, don't miss 648 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: the Fox League Awards for Rugby League excellence. We flet 649 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: Tiny and Cooper John's brought to you by the Monopoly 650 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: game at Mackins