1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Did you intend to kill or cause really serious injury 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: to Donald Patterson by serving that meal? 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: No? I didn't. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: Did you intend to harm him in any way? 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 2: No? 6 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: Did you intend to kill or cause really serious injury 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: to Gail Patterson by serving that meal? No? Did you 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: intend to cause her any harm at all? No? Did 9 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: you intend to kill or cause really serious injury to 10 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Heather Wilkinson by serving that meal? 11 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: No? I didn't. 12 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: And did you intend to cause her any harm at all? 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: No? 14 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: And did you intend to kill Ian Wilkinson by serving 15 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: that meal? No? 16 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: I didn't. 17 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: Did you intend to cause him any harm at all? No? 18 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: I didn't. 19 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: There were some emphatic denials from Aaron Patterson in court today. 20 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: As her defense barrister Colin Mandy brought her three days 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: of evidence in chief to an end. But it wasn't 22 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: the end of her time on the stand, because Crown 23 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: Prosecutor Nannette Rodgers had our own set of questions for 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 3: the woman accused of triple murder. 25 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 4: I suggest that you deliberately used foraged mushrooms in the 26 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 4: beef Wellington that you'd serve to your guests on Saturday, 27 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 4: the twenty ninth of July. 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: No, that's not true. 29 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 4: I also suggest to you that those foraged mushrooms were 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 4: death cap mushrooms. 31 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: I didn't deliberately put death cap mushrooms in the meal. 32 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: It was a day dominated by the prosecution's cross examination 33 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 3: of Erin, and we'll break it down in this episode. 34 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 3: I'm Brooke Greebert Craig, and this is the Mushroom Cook. 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: We just finished day twenty six of Aaron Patterson's murder trial, 36 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: and court reporter Laura Passella joins me in our makeshift 37 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: podcast studio. 38 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 5: Let's get this episode underway. 39 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 3: As we mentioned at the start of the episode, today 40 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 3: the jury mostly heard the prosecutions cross examination of Aaron, 41 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 3: and there was a lot of rapid fire questions from 42 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: doctor Rogers. 43 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: Yes it was, mister Mandy. Didn't take very long today 44 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 5: to finish Erin's evidence in chief, so by eleven thirty 45 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 5: doctor Rogers had risen to her feet and asked Erin 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 5: her first question. 47 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 3: Here's an exchange between Aaron and doctor Rogers from today 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 3: in court, voiced by actors. 49 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: So to sum up in relation to your so called 50 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 4: cancer diagnosis, your claim to various people that you had 51 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 4: been diagnosed with cancer before the lunch was deliberately false. 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: Yes or no? 53 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: I didn't make that claim. 54 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 4: You told this lie. I suggest as part of your 55 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 4: efforts to get the lunch guests and Simon to attend 56 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: your lunch correct or incorrect? Incorrect, And I suggest to 57 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 4: explain why the children were not present correct or incorrect? 58 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: Incorrect. 59 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 4: You knew you didn't have cancer, however, correct, that's true, 60 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: but you needed, I suggest, to appear to have a 61 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: good reason to invite your guests to lie lunch at 62 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: your house, because it was so out of the ordinary 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 4: for you to do this. Agree or disagree? 64 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: Disagree? 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 4: Do you say that it was ordinary for you to 66 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,519 Speaker 4: have people over to your house for lunch. 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: No, it wasn't ordinary, and it. 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: Certainly wasn't ordinary to invite Ian and Heather, was it. 69 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 2: That's true. They hadn't been for lunch at my house before. 70 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: I suggest that you never thought you would have to 71 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: account for this lie about having cancer because you thought 72 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: that the lunch guests would die. 73 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: That's not true, and. 74 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 4: Your lie would never be found out. Correct or incorrect, 75 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: That's not true. 76 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 5: Doctor Rogers reminded the court of Ian Wilkinson's evidence from 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 5: the second week of the trial where he said that 78 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: Aaron had announced at the lunch that she had cancer 79 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 5: and that she had undergone a diagnostic test that showed 80 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 5: a tumor. But Erin told the court today that she 81 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: did not make those statements at the table. She did agree, though, 82 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: that she wanted the guest to believe she would be 83 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 5: having treatment for cancer, but she denied ever telling them 84 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 5: that she had a diagnosis. Erin admitted yesterday in her 85 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 5: evidence in chief that she misled the guests when she 86 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 5: told them she might need upcoming treatment to hide the 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 5: fact that she was planning to have gastric bypass surgery 88 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 5: due to the body image issues she had developed over 89 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 5: her life. She explained that she misled them because she 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: was too ashamed to tell her guests she was planning 91 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 5: to have that surgery. 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 3: Let's move on. Aaron was asked many questions today about mushrooms, 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: including whether she saw a post on citizen website I 94 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: Naturalists and this post was about death cap mushrooms cited 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 3: in Locke. Here's her exchange with doctor Rogers. 96 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 4: I suggest that you saw Christine McKenzie's post that she 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 4: posted on I Naturalists on eighteenth of April twenty twenty 98 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 4: three about death cap mushrooms at Locke. Do you agree 99 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 4: or disagree? 100 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: I disagree. 101 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 4: I suggest that you then went to Locke on the 102 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 4: twenty eighth of April twenty five, twenty three. Do you 103 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 4: agree or disagree? 104 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if I did go to lock that 105 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: day or not. 106 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 4: I'm going to suggest that you went to lock on 107 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: that day to find death cap mushrooms. Agree or disagree? 108 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: Disagree. 109 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: The jury were then shown an image of yellow tinged 110 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: mushrooms laid out on a dehydrator tray on a set 111 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 3: of electronic scales. 112 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 4: These mushrooms in image one of Exhibit eighteen are the 113 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 4: death cap mushrooms that you found at lock on twenty 114 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 4: eighth of April twenty three. Agree or disagree? 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 2: Disagree? 116 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 4: I suggest that you were weighing these mushrooms, these death 117 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: cap mushrooms, so that you could calculate the weight required 118 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 4: for the administration of a fatal dose for one person 119 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: agree or disagree, disagree, and the weight required for five 120 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: fatal doses for five people. Agree or disagree disagree. 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 5: Eron told the jury yesterday that she made six beef 122 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 5: wellingtons and put one in the fridge when she was 123 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 5: plating up today, Doctor Rogers asked her whether she intended 124 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: to serve one of those six beef Wellingtons to Simon 125 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 5: if he had turned up to the lunch. She replied 126 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 5: that if he had come, she would have given him 127 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: a beef Wellington too, but she again denied deliberately putting 128 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 5: death cat mushrooms in any of the beef Wellington's. On 129 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 5: the topic of Simon, doctor Rogers also took Erin to 130 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 5: some of his testimony, where he said that Erin had 131 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: told him she had done a blind taste test with 132 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 5: their daughter by hiding dried mushrooms in muffins to see 133 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 5: which one she would like more. Eron told the court 134 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 5: today that it was true that she was putting dried 135 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 5: mushrooms in her children's food, including spaghetti, lasagna, stew, and brownies, 136 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: and she explained that she was trying to get extra 137 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 5: vegetables into her children's bodies. Doctor Rogers suggested that she 138 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 5: was actually trying to see if she could successfully hide 139 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: mushrooms in food generally, but Erin said it was only 140 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 5: in really to her children's food. 141 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: Doctor Rogers also questioned Erin about the dehydrator she bought 142 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,119 Speaker 3: from a store in lean Gatha about twelve seventeen pm 143 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 3: on April twenty eight. Erin admitted that she dumped this 144 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: dehydrator at the Kunwarra tip four days after the lunch 145 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 3: on August two. Here's what was set in court. 146 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: And you agree that they were your fingerprints found on 147 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 4: your dehydrator. 148 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 2: Correct. 149 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: You took the dehydrator to the transfer station because you 150 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 4: had been using it to dehydrate mushrooms, hadn't you, Yes, 151 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 4: and not just any old mushrooms, death cap mushrooms in fact. Correct. 152 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: I didn't know that i'd done that, and you knew. 153 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: That they were death cap mushrooms that you had been dehydrating. Correct. 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know that, and you were very keen. 155 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 4: To dispose of any evidence which might connect you with 156 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 4: the possession of death cap mushrooms. 157 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: No, I didn't know they'd been in it. 158 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 4: That's why you rushed out the day after your release 159 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: from Monash to get rid of the evidence. Correct. No, 160 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: you lied to police about never owning a dehydrator because 161 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: you knew you had used the dehydrator to prepare deathcat 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: mushrooms to include in the lunch. No, I didn't know 163 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 4: that you lied because you knew if you told the 164 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: police the truth, it would implicate you in the deliberate 165 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: poisoning of your four lunch guests. Correct. 166 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: No, no, it's not true. 167 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 5: Aaron told the jury yesterday about a conversation she had 168 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 5: with Simon while they were at Monash Medical Center on 169 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 5: August one. She said that he accused her of poisoning 170 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 5: his parents using the dehydrator. When she was asked to 171 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 5: explain why she dumped the dehydrator, she said after that 172 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 5: exchange with Simon, she was scared about the conversations that 173 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 5: might flow with people from child protection, and she was 174 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 5: scared that authorities would blame her for making everyone sick. Later, 175 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 5: during the proceedings today, doctor Rogers asked Aaron about messages 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 5: she sent her online friends in December twenty twenty two 177 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 5: about Don's response to an ongoing child's support dispute with Simon. 178 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: In the messages to her friends, Erin said that Don 179 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 5: couldn't adjudicate because he didn't know both sides, and Simon 180 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 5: wouldn't give his side. She said that Don told her 181 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 5: that all he could ask is that Simon and her 182 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 5: get together and pray for the children. Before she then 183 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 5: said this family, I swear to foking God in this message. 184 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: There were three emojis that Aaron sent, one after the 185 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 5: reference to Simon not giving his side, and two after 186 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 5: the reference to praying for their children. These messages were 187 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 5: shown to the court today on screens, but they were 188 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 5: not screenshots of the messages themselves, but rather extracts. I 189 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 5: don't think any of us foresaw there would be in 190 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 5: exchange about emojis in this trial, but that's what took 191 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 5: place today. Here's what was said. 192 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 4: I suggest to you that these are eye roll emojis, 193 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: but you disagree with that. 194 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: I think there's a better eye roll emoji than these 195 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: that actually makes it clear that eyes are rolling. I 196 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: can't see anything about eyes rolling in there. 197 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: By inserting these emojis, I suggested that you were mocking 198 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: their advice to you. 199 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 2: Correct, No, that's not true, and. 200 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 4: Part of your mockery was the religious components of their advice. 201 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 4: Do you agree? 202 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 2: No, I don't. I wasn't mocking. I was frustrated. 203 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: Even though these emojis are right next to the phrases 204 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: pray together and pray for the kids. 205 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: They are. 206 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 3: Doctor Rodgers will continue her cross examination of erin tomorrow, Laura. 207 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: The jurors actually found out more about the timeline of 208 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: the trial today, didn't they. 209 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 5: Yes, that's right, So we're nearly at the end of 210 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 5: the sixth week and at the beginning of the trial. 211 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 5: Just as Christopher Biale indicated to the jury that the 212 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 5: trial would only be about six weeks so today he 213 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 5: turned to the jurors to offer them an update. He 214 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 5: said that Erin would most likely continue giving evidence until 215 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 5: early next week, before legal discussions would be taking place 216 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 5: in the jury's absence. He then said that after that 217 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 5: there would be the closing addresses from both the prosecution 218 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 5: and the defense, which would likely bring them to the 219 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 5: end of next week. Then after that, he said, they 220 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 5: would be hearing from him directly when he delivers his 221 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 5: judge's charge or his instructions to the jury, and that 222 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 5: would also take a couple of days as well. Justice 223 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 5: Bale then said to them that the brute would then 224 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 5: go on the other foot because none of them could 225 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 5: tell him how long it would take them to deliberate 226 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 5: a verdict, but he said when that time came, they 227 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: should take all the time they need. 228 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 3: I'm sure the jurors appreciated getting that timeline. Just like 229 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 3: we did, and just like them, we'll be here for 230 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: the duration of the trial, bringing you all the latest 231 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: updates in the case. For now, head to the mushroomcook 232 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 3: dot com dot au for more