WEBVTT - The Rita Panahi Show | 27 May 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.519 On Scynelds, Australia. 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:07.280 This is the Wider Panety Show. 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:11.360 Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:14.000 Coming up tonight, I speak to a brave young woman 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:19.480 suing her Australian medical team after she underwent irreversible trans surgeries, 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.080 including the removal of her healthy breasts. Will take a 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.040 close look at Slapgate. 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:27.160 Did Bridget mccron. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.680 Commitssion act of violence or is the vision of her 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:33.600 slapping the French president mis leading? Patrick Carline will be 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.960 here to discuss the day's top stories. Kosher Gaidor will 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.520 tell us all about Kamala Harris's bizarre trip down Under 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:43.760 where she collected a fat fee for attending a real 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:47.400 estate conference, and later in the hour they always droll. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.960 Alex Stein on the phenomenon that is seeing some of 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:55.840 the world's most high profile atheists turned to God and left. 0:00:55.880 --> 0:00:59.640 He's losing it brings the lulls. Tonight I'll show you 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:05.520 about just means I'm hard for passion. 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:09.720 But first to a bizarre, some would say disturbing incident 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.640 involving French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte the 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:18.520 Peer were disembarking a plane in Vietnam when Brigitte was 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:20.800 filmed slapping Emmanuel Macron. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:22.160 Indeed, the seventy. 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:25.319 Two year old aggressively pushed her husband's face with both 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:30.000 hands in an interaction which quickly made headlines around the world. 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:32.320 Let's bring in news Corpse. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:36.320 Senior writer Patrick Carlin and Patrick the French President's office 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.840 is declaring this was just play fighting. It was a 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:43.839 playful interaction. It wasn't a violent one. Are you buying 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:44.560 that explanation? 0:01:44.959 --> 0:01:47.760 I don't think the world is buying that explanation. That 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:50.640 was not horsing around. And if you keep playing the footage, 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:53.360 you see that he reaches for her hand as I 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:57.640 walk off down the plane and she refuses to take it. 0:01:58.120 --> 0:02:01.880 That's not horsing around. And you look at his expression 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.440 there as it's happening. That's not fun. 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:04.640 No. 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.160 No, he was not expecting that door to be opened 0:02:09.240 --> 0:02:12.360 and for that interaction to be shown to the world. 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:13.920 So the shock. 0:02:13.760 --> 0:02:17.640 There was a very very real Now, there are so 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.920 many rumors about Brigitte a manual, but I'm just going 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:24.480 to put those to one side for the moment. The 0:02:24.600 --> 0:02:31.640 official explanation, the official narrative of their relationship Patrick to 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:35.960 me is troubling enough. The claim is from the couple 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:39.000 is that they met back in nineteen ninety three when 0:02:39.040 --> 0:02:44.080 mccron was fifteen years old, while Bridgitte was thirty. 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.400 Nine and a teacher at his school. 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:51.079 Yes, in most civilized countries, that would have her up 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:53.960 on charges, not being the first lady of the nation. 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.760 How is this okay? 0:02:57.080 --> 0:03:02.320 Well, look, this age now is one thing, But back then, 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.000 when she's a teacher in a position of authority and 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:09.600 he's a teenager underage, come on, she was married. 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:11.560 I think she actually had three kids at the time. 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:14.920 I think he left, he went to another high school. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.359 Then they caught up again when he moved to Paris 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.720 later on. So I think the official story is that 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.399 he was a bit older than fifteen when they became romantic. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.679 Yes, and if you believe that, then good luck to you. Now. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:32.480 It's been revealed that two of the teenagers allegedly involved 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:37.160 in Sunday's machete brawl at Northland Shopping Center were in 0:03:37.200 --> 0:03:38.640 fact out on bail. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.400 Boys age sixteen and fifteen were already on bail for 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.200 serious weapons offenses. They were charged and reminded. 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.520 Two other men. 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:50.880 Age twenty and eighteen were arrested this morning and have 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:54.840 already been bailed. The older one was already on bail 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:55.760 at the time. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:04:00.600 Patrick, it would seem that the Allen government's tough laws, 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:03.040 the tough new bail laws that we were told were 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.800 going to change everything, Well, they may not be tough 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.760 enough if we've got people getting out over and over 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.200 again and the machete ban. Everyone seems to be obsessing 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:17.400 about that, the media, the opposition, the Labor Party, is 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:18.560 that the solution. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:19.080 To this issue. 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:21.760 Look, there's the longest story here, which we've talked about 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.800 often over the last three or four years, where these 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:27.600 kids have machetes. They're turning up in people's houses at 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:30.800 two am to steal their cars and to take those 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.240 cars for joey rides. This has been going on for 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.320 a very long time. It's been something that the police 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.400 have been pushing for greater action on. It's what the 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.000 community has been pushing, you know, for a long time. 0:04:42.080 --> 0:04:44.080 We want to feel safe in our homes. You have 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.479 kids streaming through a shopping center with machetes. Yeah, and 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:52.039 they're on bail already. And as that report pointed out, 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.559 the twenty year old was on bail he's got charge 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.360 for running through a shopping center with a machete, then 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:57.920 he's got bail. 0:04:58.000 --> 0:04:58.279 Again. 0:04:58.600 --> 0:04:59.600 That's not working, is. 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.120 It, Well, it doesn't appear to be, but stealing cars 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.440 home invasions they're already illegal, and they're still doing it. 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:08.960 I'm not sure a machete bad is going to be 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:10.080 the ANSI. 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:11.040 It seems to be. 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:16.000 Such a band aid, reactive way to deal with this issue. 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:21.760 And even if machetes become unavailable for these thugs, they're 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:24.760 going to have other bladed weapons. You're really going to 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.880 feel any safer in a home invasion if they don't 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:29.440 have a machete, if they've got a big. 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:33.719 Kitchen knife, exactly right, I mean, they'll use whatever is available. 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:36.320 It seems to be machetes. I don't understand why. I 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.560 don't actually see the need for machetes in sort of 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.520 western society. Really, they don't serve any purpose at least 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:45.760 gun they do in farms, yes, but guns on farms 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:51.880 serve a purpose, whereas machetes in a metropolitan context do 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.960 not serve any purpose except to minutes. So I don't 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.920 think the band's going to work of itself, Absolutely not. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.719 But the bail thing that's something that's a watchy space 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:03.320 because these things are going to keep on happening. 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:08.760 Absolutely absolutely. Now let's go to the energy crisis. The 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:14.080 Australian Energy Regulator has approved a price increase, meaning households 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.200 in New South Wales are going to see their power 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:21.360 bills rise up to nine point one percent starting July one. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.880 Queensland South Australian Victoria we'll also see price increases. 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:26.400 Patrick. 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:31.080 The news comes as the as we're finding out the 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.800 full cost of renewables that we're going to have a 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:41.800 decade of these price surges because the transition is just 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.320 so expensive and we still don't know if it's actually 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.720 going to work. And I would suggest most thinking people 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:49.719 would say it's. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.400 Not going to work. Yes, but here we are. 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:57.279 But we're going full steam ahead with this plan despite 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.160 the considerable cost of the community. 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:02.640 It amazes me that these sorts of numbers haven't sort 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:04.159 of been currency before. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:04.440 Now. 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:06.599 I mean, this is all very predictable. It's going to 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.760 cost an absolute fortune. They're not going to hit the targets. 0:07:10.520 --> 0:07:15.560 It's going to dislocate a lot of regional communities especially 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:21.440 it's an ideological wonderland of craziness should have been a 0:07:21.440 --> 0:07:24.920 big election issue to be fair and look hitting people 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:27.720 in the hip pockets. People are struggling as it is. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.280 They keep going up nine percent a year or seven 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.760 percent a year. Australian is going to say we can't 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.440 afford to be green. We're going to save ourselves before 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.120 we save the planet at some point. 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:41.440 Well, this is the great failure of the coalition. 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.600 Since they've signed up to NIT zero, they've lost two 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:48.800 elections in landslides and that can't argue anymore that it 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.720 has to be a decision between emission cuts and affordability. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:53.880 They did that in. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:57.840 Twenty nineteen and they won the unwinnable election and they've 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:01.080 I don't know, for some reason, abandoned that position. 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.080 And this is another. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.080 Area where they really should have gone to town during 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:10.040 the election campaign and they've failed. Revelations that only one 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.440 percent of politicians and public servants, I'm very generous defined 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.960 benefits pension schemes will be affected by Labour's plan to 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:22.360 tax unrealized gains on super accounts in north of three 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:23.200 million dollars. 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.560 There's a great report. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.360 On this by Frank chung In at News dot com 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:28.920 dot au. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:30.680 He does great work on that site. 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:34.360 Now, I can't believe Patrick that the Coalition failed to 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:41.880 prosecute this argument is so profoundly unfair and the fact 0:08:41.960 --> 0:08:45.760 that they're exempting themselves makes it even more unfair. And 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:49.679 yet I don't think West Australians really understand this issue 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.520 until now until post election. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.480 Look, it was sold by the Labor Party that basically 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:58.520 only eighty thousand Australians would be affected by this, but 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:01.400 it sets a precedent whereas are Lie'm going to move 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.560 And if you actually look at three million dollars as 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.080 the threshold, that's not going to be indexed. So three 0:09:08.080 --> 0:09:10.200 million dollars today might sound like a bit of money 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:12.680 in twenty years time, it's not going to be as 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.840 great as an amount. And you look at young people now, 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.160 you look at the modeling now, for say twenty two 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.640 year old on average wages doing well, doing the right thing, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.200 putting their money into the safe place that Super has 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.120 always represented, there will be over three million dollars in 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:31.920 forty years time. It's a really retrograde tax that has 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.600 been condemned by everybody except the Labor ministers who have 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:36.800 gone out to defend it. 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.880 And there's no guarantee that they won't apply it to 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:42.319 other acid classes. 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.920 I mean, why not apply it to. 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:48.280 Property or share portfolio is all sorts of other assets 0:09:48.600 --> 0:09:52.160 an individual might have. So you're right, Once this is 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:54.720 in effect, it's probably going to expand even further. 0:09:54.760 --> 0:09:58.120 Patrick Carline, thanks so much for your time tonight. Joining 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:59.360 me now is Women's. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.760 Forum Australias had advocacy is Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie was shortly 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.200 going to be speaking to Mel Jeffries. She's a de 0:10:05.440 --> 0:10:09.640 transitioner and she'll tell us about the devastating impact these 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:14.280 gender treatments have had on her. Your organization is pushing 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:18.599 for an immediate block on all gender interventions for Australian 0:10:18.679 --> 0:10:23.480 children and an urgent national inquiry. We've seen major developments 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.560 on this issue around the world, from Scandinavia to the 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.840 US to the UK. Why is Australia a lagging behind? 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.559 Good Evening reader. I think that we have a big 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:36.480 problem with the activists and the whole that they have 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.880 on government. Last year, Mark Butler announced that they were 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:41.199 going to. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:41.680 Do a review. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:47.400 That was quickly assured by his assistant Health Minister that 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.359 that was just a review to look at the guidelines 0:10:50.400 --> 0:10:54.079 that she supported and to roll them out nationally. But 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:57.760 the tragic reality is that situations like mel. 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:00.640 Are place. 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.160 What we've seen through the Westmead Gender Clinic in Sydney, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.200 and also that was also noted in the CAST review 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:12.520 is that transition regret happens, and that a lot of 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:16.679 young women who are caught up identifying as transgender often 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:20.480 do because there are orbit of mental health issues including autism, 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:25.320 backgrounds of trauma, depression that are untreated, and they go 0:11:25.400 --> 0:11:29.840 on to undergo these radical treatments and surgeries that are harmful. 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:32.480 We need a national inquiry as soon as possible. We 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:36.280 know that girls in Queensland can access surgery as young 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:40.720 as thirteen to receive a double misectomy. That's been reported 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:46.120 online and also noted on a particular plastic surgeons website. 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:48.600 We know that kids have been put on puberty blockers 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.200 from the age of twelve. These treatments are not only irreversible, 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:55.000 they come with lifelong complications and so I think that 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:59.560 the government should be halting all gender treatments immediately and 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.880 they need to do a thorough national investigation in conjunction 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:04.040 with the states and territories. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:08.679 Now let's talk about Netball Victoria. 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:12.920 They've launched an investigation into whether transgender players pose as 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:17.840 safety risk to biological female players following a series of complaints, 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.160 including from a club which has threatened to boycott matches 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:26.000 against a team with transgender players due to safety concerns. Steph, 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.559 This entire episode to me is bizarre because there are 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:34.160 men's netball teams and there's also mixed netball. So why 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:37.040 would a man identifying as a woman opt to play 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:38.760 in a women's league. 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:45.240 Well, not only there's one player that's not only opting 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.960 into the women's league, he's playing in the male elite 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:52.000 league as well. It's absolutely ridiculous. I think a lot 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:56.079 of the clubs are fear full of litigation. The laws 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.920 are confusing. You've got state legislation anti discrimination, they're just 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:03.959 The SDA is also very confusing because while there are 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:08.160 provisions to protect to exclude on the basis of things 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.880 like strength and stamina, these clubs still have to make 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.880 the case that it's relevant to this particular type of sport. 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:15.319 You know, would. 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.160 Community sport hold up compared to elite sport. Many of 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.480 the elite sporting codes have made the rules so stringent 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:25.160 on testosterone that male players can't compete in them. So 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:27.560 what we need is we need this mess cleared up 0:13:28.840 --> 0:13:32.360 by our federal MPs. Claire Chandler's moved a Save Women's 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.440 Sport bill. There's been no move to pick it up 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:38.079 and actually implement it. But we need male and female 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:39.480 to be defined, and we need to get rid of 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:43.720 these provisions and have a blanket protection for sex based sports. 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:49.960 And didn't Epple Victoria give one of their clubs, Faulkner, 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:54.440 an award for respecting the beliefs and personal space of 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:59.000 players Muslim women. There seems to be a bit of 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.640 inconsistency hypocrisy in these. 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:08.240 Matters, absolutely, and I'm all for them making a space 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.120 for Islamic players to be able to get involved, but 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:13.120 what about the women? Why can't women. 0:14:12.960 --> 0:14:13.920 Be protected as well? 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:16.760 It is a double standard for them to give a 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.600 minority group and then to tell women that they don't 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:23.280 matter and that their rights to have a single sex 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.000 safe space where they're not going to be injured by 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.760 male players. And that is what the female netball players 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:32.880 have complained of the physical force in competing against these men. 0:14:33.200 --> 0:14:35.520 They have not provided that for women, and I think 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.440 It's great they're having a review, but how utterly absurd 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:45.120 that it's got to this stage before they've looked at it. 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:48.200 It is utterly absurd, and I think it's all about 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.760 clubs and individual players putting some pressure on these sporting bodies, 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:56.720 because otherwise they'll just take the easiest road and do 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:58.600 what the active as class tell them to do. 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.160 Sephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time tonight. 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.640 My next guest is someone who for years believed she 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:09.840 was non binary and transgender, trapped in the wrong body. 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.480 Mel was encouraged by the trans community and affirmed by 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:19.160 her doctors to undergo so called gender treatments, including hormone therapy, 0:15:19.720 --> 0:15:22.960 and she even underwent a double misectomy. She had her 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:26.960 healthy breasts removed. Now all these treatments were carried out 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.080 despite Mel having a history of mental health issues that 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.600 she says were not under control and they got worse 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:37.360 during the course of her treatments. Mel is living again 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.880 as a female and is suing. 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:41.680 Her medical team, her doctors. 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.400 And Monash Health for negligence, accusing them of failing to 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:48.280 adhere to professional standards of care. I'm very pleased to 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:50.080 say that Mel Jeffries joins me. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.720 Now, Mel, thank you so much for being here. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.600 Tell me about how you were allowed to undergo these 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:59.960 gender treatments and how did it all start. 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:02.720 For me to really get. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:04.760 Into it, you have to kind of really understand that 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:09.360 I had quite a troubled childhood and it led into 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:18.160 a turbulent teenage years. It was during during year eleven 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:24.440 I experienced a sexual assault by schoolmate and that kind 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:30.360 of created quite a level of discomfortent in my body 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.480 and being perceived as female. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:33.400 Which. 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:42.080 I saw like a youth Gender GP clinic and they 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:48.360 connected me with transactivists when I it was either sixteen 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:53.840 or seventeen, and that's when I kind of really got 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:59.280 into believing like this explains the discomfort and problems that 0:16:59.320 --> 0:17:02.040 I've experienced. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:05.560 That doesn't even do you feel like if you transition 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.639 to mail, you'd be safe, that wouldn't happen to you. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.040 Again, there was an aspect of that, because that is 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.320 primarily why I don't have my breast, because I experienced 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:21.359 quite a few situations of non consensual touching, and I 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.600 had most of my life I've considered myself asexual, and 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:30.040 I was quite like disgusted by you know, like having 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.640 a period and the thought of motherhood. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.159 That so that was actually. 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:42.480 Something that made it offered me an alternative from what 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:46.520 I had. But like I had, there was like quite 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.880 a few traumatic situations in my childhood that are do you. 0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:53.879 Think those traumas were fully considered before you were allowed 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:57.800 to go down this path of having irreversible surgeries? Were 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:01.920 you given warnings about what that could mean medically for you? 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.359 For me, it's quite difficult because the reason I started 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.320 this lawsuit was two years ago. I got a late 0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:11.440 diagnosis of autism. When I was five years old, they 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:15.800 screened me for autism. I had selective mutism, so there 0:18:15.840 --> 0:18:17.639 was like a few signs, but at that point in 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:22.679 time they said, no, you're just anxious. So that's the 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.159 diagnoses of autism as well as the sexual trauma. 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:26.720 I feel like if I had. 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.240 Knew that I was autistic when I was a child, 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:33.639 I feel like there would have been a lot like 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.399 I would have had a better understanding of my body 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.000 and like why I feel alienated from my body, my 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:42.800 family and society. Like having breast was quite like a 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:47.240 sensory issue for me, So bounding, like because I would bind, 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:52.160 I bound for like seven years. That put that at 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.760 ease a little bit, but then that also I wasn't 0:18:55.760 --> 0:19:01.959 actually safe from that either, like because I still one 0:19:02.000 --> 0:19:04.280 of my stays in the psych word. This man didn't 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.879 know what I was, so he grot my breast and 0:19:06.960 --> 0:19:08.800 I'd been binding at the time, and that was kind 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:11.840 of like quite terrifying because it was like, oh, I 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.240 thought that I passed as a man, And that's kind 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:15.760 of one of the biggest things that I'm dealing with, 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.160 is like I don't really feel like I can trust 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:21.520 anyone because it's like, for so long I was affirmed 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.640 in something that couldn't. 0:19:23.280 --> 0:19:25.880 Be real, and it wasn't real, and that. 0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.040 It's supposed to be an act of kindness to affirm 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:35.160 someone's gender identity, but as you've experienced, it's not really 0:19:35.280 --> 0:19:36.440 kindness at all, is it. 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:38.760 It actually creates a whole set of new issues. 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:43.960 Yeah, because it's like I'm actually because I still struggle 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:48.280 with body dysmorphic disorder and have quite severe like disordered 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:52.000 eating still. So I've been struggling with the disorder eating 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:54.680 since I was about fourteen. The gender stuff came around 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:58.399 like sixteen ish, So there's this long standing issue that 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:03.400 I haven't had addressed. And then it's kind of there's 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:08.880 similar similarities between eating disorder treatment and gender like medicine, 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:13.480 because eating disorder services they have one framework that's kind 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:15.400 of being applied everywhere. It's like the health at every 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.919 size fat acceptance kind of intuit to eating and that 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.399 didn't work for me, just like gender firming care, it 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:22.239 didn't work for me. 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:24.959 So your experience isn't isolated, is it. 0:20:24.960 --> 0:20:28.359 There's a lot of girls who go through these who 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.240 do have who are on the spectrum or do have 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.320 traumas in the past, and I think that's why it's 0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.200 so important that you're speaking out and hopefully you save 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:42.280 many other confused youngsters from going down the path you did. 0:20:42.600 --> 0:20:45.679 And I hope, really do hope your case shines a 0:20:45.760 --> 0:20:46.959 light on that area. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.520 Are you getting support from the trans community or the 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:51.880 wider LGBTQI community at all. 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:56.600 There's segments like there's the lgb movement where they want 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.040 to cut off the TQ and like, I didn't expect. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.639 I didn't know that that existed because for me, it 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:06.320 was all the acronyms together and they were all argently 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:11.159 like pro trans and gender identity, and so it was 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:15.080 quite refreshing to see that aspect, But for me, it's 0:21:15.080 --> 0:21:17.920 been quite like hostile because I have had a few 0:21:17.960 --> 0:21:21.399 people since the Spotlight episode, particularly I described my experience 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:24.080 as a medical catastrophe, and then it was like this 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:27.120 transactivist that I knew like a decade ago, like went 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.040 on to this podcast and it was like trying to 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.640 debunk gender filming care and it's like it wasn't really 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:36.880 appropriate for him to try and debunk my the way 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.360 I described my experience like that felt crazy. 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.400 Like I understand, understand, it's very difficult. Mel Jeffries, thank 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.320 you so much for your time tonight. I really appreciate it. 0:21:44.359 --> 0:21:45.600 Thanks still to come. 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.280 Lefties Losing It class will take a close look at 0:21:49.320 --> 0:22:04.240 Kamala Harris's bizarre trip down under kosher gator as in details. 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.000 You're watching the Riata pannih Show and it's time for 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:11.280 Lefties Losing it. The worst vice president in our lifetimes 0:22:11.400 --> 0:22:16.000 is in Australia. Yes, Kamala Harris reportedly earned hundreds of 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:19.760 thousands of dollars to speak at a real estate conference 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:20.720 on the Gold Coast. 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:21.400 I'm serious. 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:26.560 She was headlining with other really serious world figures like Maritzio. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.080 You know he's from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yes, 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.280 real estate agents or realtors as the Yanks call them, 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.919 paid upwards of fifteen hundred dollars. 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:41.040 To hear pearls of wisdom from the word salad specialist herself. 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.200