1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:04,519 Speaker 1: On Scynelds, Australia. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 2: This is the Wider Panety Show. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panety Show. 4 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, I speak to a brave young woman 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 4: suing her Australian medical team after she underwent irreversible trans surgeries, 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 4: including the removal of her healthy breasts. Will take a 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 4: close look at Slapgate. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 3: Did Bridget mccron. 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 4: Commitssion act of violence or is the vision of her 10 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 4: slapping the French president mis leading? Patrick Carline will be 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 4: here to discuss the day's top stories. Kosher Gaidor will 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 4: tell us all about Kamala Harris's bizarre trip down Under 13 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 4: where she collected a fat fee for attending a real 14 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 4: estate conference, and later in the hour they always droll. 15 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 4: Alex Stein on the phenomenon that is seeing some of 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: the world's most high profile atheists turned to God and left. 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: He's losing it brings the lulls. Tonight I'll show you 18 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 3: about just means I'm hard for passion. 19 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 4: But first to a bizarre, some would say disturbing incident 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 4: involving French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife Brigitte the 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: Peer were disembarking a plane in Vietnam when Brigitte was 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 4: filmed slapping Emmanuel Macron. 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 3: Indeed, the seventy. 24 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 4: Two year old aggressively pushed her husband's face with both 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 4: hands in an interaction which quickly made headlines around the world. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 3: Let's bring in news Corpse. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 4: Senior writer Patrick Carlin and Patrick the French President's office 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: is declaring this was just play fighting. It was a 29 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 4: playful interaction. It wasn't a violent one. Are you buying 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: that explanation? 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 2: I don't think the world is buying that explanation. That 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 2: was not horsing around. And if you keep playing the footage, 33 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: you see that he reaches for her hand as I 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: walk off down the plane and she refuses to take it. 35 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: That's not horsing around. And you look at his expression 36 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 2: there as it's happening. That's not fun. 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 5: No. 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: No, he was not expecting that door to be opened 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 4: and for that interaction to be shown to the world. 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: So the shock. 41 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 4: There was a very very real Now, there are so 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 4: many rumors about Brigitte a manual, but I'm just going 43 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: to put those to one side for the moment. The 44 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 4: official explanation, the official narrative of their relationship Patrick to 45 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: me is troubling enough. The claim is from the couple 46 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: is that they met back in nineteen ninety three when 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: mccron was fifteen years old, while Bridgitte was thirty. 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: Nine and a teacher at his school. 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 4: Yes, in most civilized countries, that would have her up 50 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 4: on charges, not being the first lady of the nation. 51 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 3: How is this okay? 52 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 6: Well, look, this age now is one thing, But back then, 53 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 6: when she's a teacher in a position of authority and 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 6: he's a teenager underage, come on, she was married. 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 2: I think she actually had three kids at the time. 56 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: I think he left, he went to another high school. 57 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: Then they caught up again when he moved to Paris 58 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: later on. So I think the official story is that 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 2: he was a bit older than fifteen when they became romantic. 60 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 3: Yes, and if you believe that, then good luck to you. Now. 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 4: It's been revealed that two of the teenagers allegedly involved 62 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: in Sunday's machete brawl at Northland Shopping Center were in 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 4: fact out on bail. 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 7: Boys age sixteen and fifteen were already on bail for 65 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 7: serious weapons offenses. They were charged and reminded. 66 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: Two other men. 67 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 7: Age twenty and eighteen were arrested this morning and have 68 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 7: already been bailed. The older one was already on bail 69 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 7: at the time. 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 4: Patrick, it would seem that the Allen government's tough laws, 71 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 4: the tough new bail laws that we were told were 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: going to change everything, Well, they may not be tough 73 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 4: enough if we've got people getting out over and over 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: again and the machete ban. Everyone seems to be obsessing 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: about that, the media, the opposition, the Labor Party, is 76 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 4: that the solution. 77 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: To this issue. 78 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: Look, there's the longest story here, which we've talked about 79 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: often over the last three or four years, where these 80 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: kids have machetes. They're turning up in people's houses at 81 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: two am to steal their cars and to take those 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 2: cars for joey rides. This has been going on for 83 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: a very long time. It's been something that the police 84 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: have been pushing for greater action on. It's what the 85 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 2: community has been pushing, you know, for a long time. 86 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: We want to feel safe in our homes. You have 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 2: kids streaming through a shopping center with machetes. Yeah, and 88 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: they're on bail already. And as that report pointed out, 89 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,559 Speaker 2: the twenty year old was on bail he's got charge 90 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: for running through a shopping center with a machete, then 91 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: he's got bail. 92 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: Again. 93 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: That's not working, is. 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 4: It, Well, it doesn't appear to be, but stealing cars 95 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: home invasions they're already illegal, and they're still doing it. 96 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 4: I'm not sure a machete bad is going to be 97 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 4: the ANSI. 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 3: It seems to be. 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: Such a band aid, reactive way to deal with this issue. 100 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: And even if machetes become unavailable for these thugs, they're 101 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: going to have other bladed weapons. You're really going to 102 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 4: feel any safer in a home invasion if they don't 103 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: have a machete, if they've got a big. 104 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: Kitchen knife, exactly right, I mean, they'll use whatever is available. 105 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: It seems to be machetes. I don't understand why. I 106 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: don't actually see the need for machetes in sort of 107 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: western society. Really, they don't serve any purpose at least 108 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: gun they do in farms, yes, but guns on farms 109 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 2: serve a purpose, whereas machetes in a metropolitan context do 110 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: not serve any purpose except to minutes. So I don't 111 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 2: think the band's going to work of itself, Absolutely not. 112 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 2: But the bail thing that's something that's a watchy space 113 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 2: because these things are going to keep on happening. 114 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely. Now let's go to the energy crisis. The 115 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 4: Australian Energy Regulator has approved a price increase, meaning households 116 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 4: in New South Wales are going to see their power 117 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: bills rise up to nine point one percent starting July one. 118 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: Queensland South Australian Victoria we'll also see price increases. 119 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: Patrick. 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: The news comes as the as we're finding out the 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 4: full cost of renewables that we're going to have a 122 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 4: decade of these price surges because the transition is just 123 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 4: so expensive and we still don't know if it's actually 124 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 4: going to work. And I would suggest most thinking people 125 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 4: would say it's. 126 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: Not going to work. Yes, but here we are. 127 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 4: But we're going full steam ahead with this plan despite 128 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 4: the considerable cost of the community. 129 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: It amazes me that these sorts of numbers haven't sort 130 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 2: of been currency before. 131 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 8: Now. 132 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 2: I mean, this is all very predictable. It's going to 133 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: cost an absolute fortune. They're not going to hit the targets. 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: It's going to dislocate a lot of regional communities especially 135 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: it's an ideological wonderland of craziness should have been a 136 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: big election issue to be fair and look hitting people 137 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: in the hip pockets. People are struggling as it is. 138 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 2: They keep going up nine percent a year or seven 139 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: percent a year. Australian is going to say we can't 140 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: afford to be green. We're going to save ourselves before 141 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: we save the planet at some point. 142 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: Well, this is the great failure of the coalition. 143 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 4: Since they've signed up to NIT zero, they've lost two 144 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 4: elections in landslides and that can't argue anymore that it 145 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: has to be a decision between emission cuts and affordability. 146 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: They did that in. 147 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen and they won the unwinnable election and they've 148 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 4: I don't know, for some reason, abandoned that position. 149 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: And this is another. 150 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 4: Area where they really should have gone to town during 151 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 4: the election campaign and they've failed. Revelations that only one 152 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 4: percent of politicians and public servants, I'm very generous defined 153 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 4: benefits pension schemes will be affected by Labour's plan to 154 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 4: tax unrealized gains on super accounts in north of three 155 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 4: million dollars. 156 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 3: There's a great report. 157 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: On this by Frank chung In at News dot com 158 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 4: dot au. 159 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 3: He does great work on that site. 160 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 4: Now, I can't believe Patrick that the Coalition failed to 161 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: prosecute this argument is so profoundly unfair and the fact 162 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 4: that they're exempting themselves makes it even more unfair. And 163 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 4: yet I don't think West Australians really understand this issue 164 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 4: until now until post election. 165 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: Look, it was sold by the Labor Party that basically 166 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: only eighty thousand Australians would be affected by this, but 167 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: it sets a precedent whereas are Lie'm going to move 168 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 2: And if you actually look at three million dollars as 169 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: the threshold, that's not going to be indexed. So three 170 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: million dollars today might sound like a bit of money 171 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: in twenty years time, it's not going to be as 172 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: great as an amount. And you look at young people now, 173 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 2: you look at the modeling now, for say twenty two 174 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 2: year old on average wages doing well, doing the right thing, 175 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: putting their money into the safe place that Super has 176 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 2: always represented, there will be over three million dollars in 177 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 2: forty years time. It's a really retrograde tax that has 178 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 2: been condemned by everybody except the Labor ministers who have 179 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: gone out to defend it. 180 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 4: And there's no guarantee that they won't apply it to 181 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 4: other acid classes. 182 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: I mean, why not apply it to. 183 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 4: Property or share portfolio is all sorts of other assets 184 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: an individual might have. So you're right, Once this is 185 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 4: in effect, it's probably going to expand even further. 186 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: Patrick Carline, thanks so much for your time tonight. Joining 187 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: me now is Women's. 188 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 4: Forum Australias had advocacy is Stephanie Bastian. Stephanie was shortly 189 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: going to be speaking to Mel Jeffries. She's a de 190 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 4: transitioner and she'll tell us about the devastating impact these 191 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 4: gender treatments have had on her. Your organization is pushing 192 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 4: for an immediate block on all gender interventions for Australian 193 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: children and an urgent national inquiry. We've seen major developments 194 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 4: on this issue around the world, from Scandinavia to the 195 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 4: US to the UK. Why is Australia a lagging behind? 196 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 9: Good Evening reader. I think that we have a big 197 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 9: problem with the activists and the whole that they have 198 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 9: on government. Last year, Mark Butler announced that they were 199 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 9: going to. 200 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 4: Do a review. 201 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 9: That was quickly assured by his assistant Health Minister that 202 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,359 Speaker 9: that was just a review to look at the guidelines 203 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 9: that she supported and to roll them out nationally. But 204 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 9: the tragic reality is that situations like mel. 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: Are place. 206 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 9: What we've seen through the Westmead Gender Clinic in Sydney, 207 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 9: and also that was also noted in the CAST review 208 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 9: is that transition regret happens, and that a lot of 209 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 9: young women who are caught up identifying as transgender often 210 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 9: do because there are orbit of mental health issues including autism, 211 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 9: backgrounds of trauma, depression that are untreated, and they go 212 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 9: on to undergo these radical treatments and surgeries that are harmful. 213 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 9: We need a national inquiry as soon as possible. We 214 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 9: know that girls in Queensland can access surgery as young 215 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 9: as thirteen to receive a double misectomy. That's been reported 216 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 9: online and also noted on a particular plastic surgeons website. 217 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 9: We know that kids have been put on puberty blockers 218 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 9: from the age of twelve. These treatments are not only irreversible, 219 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 9: they come with lifelong complications and so I think that 220 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 9: the government should be halting all gender treatments immediately and 221 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 9: they need to do a thorough national investigation in conjunction 222 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 9: with the states and territories. 223 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 3: Now let's talk about Netball Victoria. 224 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 4: They've launched an investigation into whether transgender players pose as 225 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 4: safety risk to biological female players following a series of complaints, 226 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: including from a club which has threatened to boycott matches 227 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 4: against a team with transgender players due to safety concerns. Steph, 228 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 4: This entire episode to me is bizarre because there are 229 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 4: men's netball teams and there's also mixed netball. So why 230 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: would a man identifying as a woman opt to play 231 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 4: in a women's league. 232 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 9: Well, not only there's one player that's not only opting 233 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 9: into the women's league, he's playing in the male elite 234 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 9: league as well. It's absolutely ridiculous. I think a lot 235 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 9: of the clubs are fear full of litigation. The laws 236 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 9: are confusing. You've got state legislation anti discrimination, they're just 237 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,959 Speaker 9: The SDA is also very confusing because while there are 238 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 9: provisions to protect to exclude on the basis of things 239 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 9: like strength and stamina, these clubs still have to make 240 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 9: the case that it's relevant to this particular type of sport. 241 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 3: You know, would. 242 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 9: Community sport hold up compared to elite sport. Many of 243 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 9: the elite sporting codes have made the rules so stringent 244 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 9: on testosterone that male players can't compete in them. So 245 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 9: what we need is we need this mess cleared up 246 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 9: by our federal MPs. Claire Chandler's moved a Save Women's 247 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 9: Sport bill. There's been no move to pick it up 248 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,079 Speaker 9: and actually implement it. But we need male and female 249 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 9: to be defined, and we need to get rid of 250 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 9: these provisions and have a blanket protection for sex based sports. 251 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: And didn't Epple Victoria give one of their clubs, Faulkner, 252 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: an award for respecting the beliefs and personal space of 253 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: players Muslim women. There seems to be a bit of 254 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: inconsistency hypocrisy in these. 255 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 9: Matters, absolutely, and I'm all for them making a space 256 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 9: for Islamic players to be able to get involved, but 257 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 9: what about the women? Why can't women. 258 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 3: Be protected as well? 259 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 9: It is a double standard for them to give a 260 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 9: minority group and then to tell women that they don't 261 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 9: matter and that their rights to have a single sex 262 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 9: safe space where they're not going to be injured by 263 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 9: male players. And that is what the female netball players 264 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 9: have complained of the physical force in competing against these men. 265 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 9: They have not provided that for women, and I think 266 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 9: It's great they're having a review, but how utterly absurd 267 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 9: that it's got to this stage before they've looked at it. 268 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 4: It is utterly absurd, and I think it's all about 269 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: clubs and individual players putting some pressure on these sporting bodies, 270 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: because otherwise they'll just take the easiest road and do 271 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 4: what the active as class tell them to do. 272 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: Sephanie Bastian, thank you so much for your time tonight. 273 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 4: My next guest is someone who for years believed she 274 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 4: was non binary and transgender, trapped in the wrong body. 275 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: Mel was encouraged by the trans community and affirmed by 276 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 4: her doctors to undergo so called gender treatments, including hormone therapy, 277 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 4: and she even underwent a double misectomy. She had her 278 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: healthy breasts removed. Now all these treatments were carried out 279 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: despite Mel having a history of mental health issues that 280 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: she says were not under control and they got worse 281 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: during the course of her treatments. Mel is living again 282 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: as a female and is suing. 283 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: Her medical team, her doctors. 284 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: And Monash Health for negligence, accusing them of failing to 285 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 4: adhere to professional standards of care. I'm very pleased to 286 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 4: say that Mel Jeffries joins me. 287 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: Now, Mel, thank you so much for being here. 288 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 4: Tell me about how you were allowed to undergo these 289 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: gender treatments and how did it all start. 290 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: For me to really get. 291 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 10: Into it, you have to kind of really understand that 292 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 10: I had quite a troubled childhood and it led into 293 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 10: a turbulent teenage years. It was during during year eleven 294 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 10: I experienced a sexual assault by schoolmate and that kind 295 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 10: of created quite a level of discomfortent in my body 296 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 10: and being perceived as female. 297 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: Which. 298 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 10: I saw like a youth Gender GP clinic and they 299 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 10: connected me with transactivists when I it was either sixteen 300 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 10: or seventeen, and that's when I kind of really got 301 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 10: into believing like this explains the discomfort and problems that 302 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 10: I've experienced. 303 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: That doesn't even do you feel like if you transition 304 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 4: to mail, you'd be safe, that wouldn't happen to you. 305 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 10: Again, there was an aspect of that, because that is 306 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 10: primarily why I don't have my breast, because I experienced 307 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 10: quite a few situations of non consensual touching, and I 308 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 10: had most of my life I've considered myself asexual, and 309 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 10: I was quite like disgusted by you know, like having 310 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 10: a period and the thought of motherhood. 311 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 3: That so that was actually. 312 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 10: Something that made it offered me an alternative from what 313 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 10: I had. But like I had, there was like quite 314 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 10: a few traumatic situations in my childhood that are do you. 315 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 4: Think those traumas were fully considered before you were allowed 316 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: to go down this path of having irreversible surgeries? Were 317 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 4: you given warnings about what that could mean medically for you? 318 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 10: For me, it's quite difficult because the reason I started 319 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 10: this lawsuit was two years ago. I got a late 320 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 10: diagnosis of autism. When I was five years old, they 321 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 10: screened me for autism. I had selective mutism, so there 322 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 10: was like a few signs, but at that point in 323 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 10: time they said, no, you're just anxious. So that's the 324 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 10: diagnoses of autism as well as the sexual trauma. 325 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: I feel like if I had. 326 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 10: Knew that I was autistic when I was a child, 327 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 10: I feel like there would have been a lot like 328 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 10: I would have had a better understanding of my body 329 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 10: and like why I feel alienated from my body, my 330 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 10: family and society. Like having breast was quite like a 331 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 10: sensory issue for me, So bounding, like because I would bind, 332 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 10: I bound for like seven years. That put that at 333 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 10: ease a little bit, but then that also I wasn't 334 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 10: actually safe from that either, like because I still one 335 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 10: of my stays in the psych word. This man didn't 336 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,879 Speaker 10: know what I was, so he grot my breast and 337 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 10: I'd been binding at the time, and that was kind 338 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 10: of like quite terrifying because it was like, oh, I 339 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 10: thought that I passed as a man, And that's kind 340 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 10: of one of the biggest things that I'm dealing with, 341 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,160 Speaker 10: is like I don't really feel like I can trust 342 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 10: anyone because it's like, for so long I was affirmed 343 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 10: in something that couldn't. 344 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: Be real, and it wasn't real, and that. 345 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 4: It's supposed to be an act of kindness to affirm 346 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: someone's gender identity, but as you've experienced, it's not really 347 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 4: kindness at all, is it. 348 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: It actually creates a whole set of new issues. 349 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 10: Yeah, because it's like I'm actually because I still struggle 350 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 10: with body dysmorphic disorder and have quite severe like disordered 351 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 10: eating still. So I've been struggling with the disorder eating 352 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 10: since I was about fourteen. The gender stuff came around 353 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 10: like sixteen ish, So there's this long standing issue that 354 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 10: I haven't had addressed. And then it's kind of there's 355 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 10: similar similarities between eating disorder treatment and gender like medicine, 356 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 10: because eating disorder services they have one framework that's kind 357 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 10: of being applied everywhere. It's like the health at every 358 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 10: size fat acceptance kind of intuit to eating and that 359 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 10: didn't work for me, just like gender firming care, it 360 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,239 Speaker 10: didn't work for me. 361 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,959 Speaker 3: So your experience isn't isolated, is it. 362 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: There's a lot of girls who go through these who 363 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 4: do have who are on the spectrum or do have 364 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: traumas in the past, and I think that's why it's 365 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: so important that you're speaking out and hopefully you save 366 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: many other confused youngsters from going down the path you did. 367 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 3: And I hope, really do hope your case shines a 368 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 3: light on that area. 369 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 4: Are you getting support from the trans community or the 370 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 4: wider LGBTQI community at all. 371 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 10: There's segments like there's the lgb movement where they want 372 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 10: to cut off the TQ and like, I didn't expect. 373 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 10: I didn't know that that existed because for me, it 374 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 10: was all the acronyms together and they were all argently 375 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 10: like pro trans and gender identity, and so it was 376 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 10: quite refreshing to see that aspect, But for me, it's 377 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 10: been quite like hostile because I have had a few 378 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 10: people since the Spotlight episode, particularly I described my experience 379 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 10: as a medical catastrophe, and then it was like this 380 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,120 Speaker 10: transactivist that I knew like a decade ago, like went 381 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 10: on to this podcast and it was like trying to 382 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 10: debunk gender filming care and it's like it wasn't really 383 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 10: appropriate for him to try and debunk my the way 384 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,360 Speaker 10: I described my experience like that felt crazy. 385 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 3: Like I understand, understand, it's very difficult. Mel Jeffries, thank 386 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: you so much for your time tonight. I really appreciate it. 387 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 3: Thanks still to come. 388 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 4: Lefties Losing It class will take a close look at 389 00:21:49,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris's bizarre trip down under kosher gator as in details. 390 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 4: You're watching the Riata pannih Show and it's time for 391 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: Lefties Losing it. The worst vice president in our lifetimes 392 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: is in Australia. Yes, Kamala Harris reportedly earned hundreds of 393 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 4: thousands of dollars to speak at a real estate conference 394 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: on the Gold Coast. 395 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm serious. 396 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 4: She was headlining with other really serious world figures like Maritzio. 397 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: You know he's from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Yes, 398 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: real estate agents or realtors as the Yanks call them, 399 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,919 Speaker 4: paid upwards of fifteen hundred dollars. 400 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: To hear pearls of wisdom from the word salad specialist herself. 401 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 4: And WOWE didn't they get their money's worth? She pulled 402 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: out this all time Kamala classic, the see what can 403 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 4: need and they're unburdened by yasan profound, profound, still profound 404 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: the ten thousandth time I've heard her say it. Indeed, 405 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: the entire experience was reportedly a hot mess of incoherent 406 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 4: word salads. The Daily Mail reports Kamala Harris left the 407 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 4: audience baffled as she laughed and talked about Playboy magazine 408 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 4: covers and launched into a confusing word salad after being 409 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 4: asked about the importance of humility. 410 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: But I want to know more about the. 411 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 4: Playboy magazine segue, please, she would say. 412 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: You know, you look at the random story or whatever, 413 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 2: you look at the cover of Playboy magazine. 414 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 9: Let me just tell you the reason that people are 415 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 9: looking at these things. 416 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: I understand why they were developed for the perpetuation of 417 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: the human species. 418 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 3: Okay, that made a lot of sense. 419 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure that will help real estate agents sell plenty 420 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: of houses, as will this bit of inspiring retric about 421 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: never accepting the word no. 422 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 6: I don't hear enough. 423 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: I eatne for breakfast here until the time. 424 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 3: I can. I tell you that many times that it 425 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 3: is ilicitly or explicitly said to me. 426 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 11: It's not your chime. 427 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: You're not ready. 428 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: They're not ready. 429 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: Nobody like you has done this, and then. 430 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 5: The amount. 431 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: Don't you listen? 432 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: Oh kamala, you should listen because it's not your time. 433 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 3: You're not ready. We don't want you. You are not president. 434 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 4: The American people said no in emphatic fashion last November, 435 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: and hopefully you've heard the message because. 436 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 3: No means no. 437 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 4: Now, let's have a little fun and frivolity courtesy of 438 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: the Knelk Boys, who played a hilarious prank on the 439 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 4: parents of a young woman by pretending that she is 440 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 4: dating some lefty losing a TDS sufferer. 441 00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 6: Watch this. 442 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 3: Donald Trump has got to go. 443 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 5: He right, guys, will see you tomorrow. 444 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 4: Okay, how are. 445 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 8: You, guys? 446 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 5: Hi beb are you? 447 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 7: How are you? 448 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 5: How are you? 449 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 4: Did you notice he asked for consent before kissing her 450 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 4: on the cheek. How long before these parents lose their 451 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 4: patience with this Democrat boy wooing their daughter. 452 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 5: That's just a bit upsetting. Yeah, okay, sorry, what's your pronouns? 453 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 12: Are you here? 454 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 13: They? 455 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 5: Them? Okay, them, them, I will have the mushroom's idiot? Yeah, 456 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 5: thank you. 457 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: They're trying hard to keep it together, but I don't 458 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 4: think it's going to last. Because let's add a mega 459 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 4: hat to proceedings and see what happens next. 460 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 5: Excuse me, sir, hold on, sorry, excuse me, sir sir. 461 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 5: How does it feel to be driving a fascist mobile? 462 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: Great car? 463 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? 464 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: I can actually drive myself. I don't need a self 465 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 5: driving car. 466 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 6: Kyles, listen, are you trying to fist us off? 467 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: Because I'm getting fissed off. 468 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 5: I'm pissed off too, because there's a Make America Great Again? 469 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 5: How there's a Tesla year and this country is going 470 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 5: fascist right in front of us. 471 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 8: You fascist means I don't know. 472 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: I'll show you what fascist means. 473 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 5: I'll show you what fascist means. I'll show you what 474 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 5: fascist means. How's that for fascist? Yeah enough, I'm done 475 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 5: with that. AI, guys, if you guys are on a 476 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 5: tray show. We're totally not drive. 477 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 4: Now Here is a blast from the past, and my word, 478 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 4: how things can change so dramatically in five years, Yes, 479 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 4: five years ago, we had Nancy and the rest of 480 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 4: the race bating Democrats taking a knee for George Floyd 481 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: and the anti American, anti police, anti nuclear family neomarxist 482 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 4: of BLM. 483 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 11: We gather in honor of those Americans and so many 484 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 11: others George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, I'm on Ibury Batham, Jean. 485 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 4: Yes, just five years ago when I and just a 486 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 4: handful of others in the media were pointing out the 487 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 4: absurdity of all that. Remember that era of every idiot 488 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: posting a black square on their Instagram page to show 489 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 4: their solidarity. 490 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 3: With that movement. And then there was the weeping, so 491 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 3: much weeping. 492 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: Here is Mayor of a Minneapolis, Jacob Fray, sobbing like 493 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: a little schoolgirl at George Floyd's funeral. 494 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 3: Oraw concept. 495 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 4: And against that backdrop we had mass violence, arson, looting, 496 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 4: and destruction costing around two billion dollars. Let's bring in 497 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:22,199 Speaker 4: Skar us contributor Kosher Gata Kosher five years on what 498 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 4: have we learned from the BLM riots and that race agenda. 499 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 14: A few things five years gives a perspective that time 500 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 14: and distance can give. The first thing that jumped out 501 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 14: at me from that footage was that was peak virtue 502 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 14: signaling and we're past that peak. Just the whole thing 503 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 14: announced Pelosi and friends in the ethnic African garb, which 504 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 14: confused me because we were told that's cultural appropriation, but not 505 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 14: when she does it in this context, and then she's 506 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 14: kneeling with very expensive shoes, you could see I didn't 507 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 14: didn't escape my attention as well. That juxtaposition and of 508 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 14: course a mass because it was during covid era under 509 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 14: the chin more virtue signaling. Either it works or a dozen, 510 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 14: but they're trying to do both. So I think all 511 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 14: of that, the absurdity of all of that is now clear. 512 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 14: And I think the other thing to change is with 513 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 14: the election results the way that have happened, the whod 514 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 14: dea edifice is crumbling, or at least cracking, and that's 515 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 14: giving political cover and social cover to people in the 516 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 14: culture to push back on. I think what we all 517 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 14: saw as absurdity, but maybe the cost for pushing back 518 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 14: was too high five years ago, and now. 519 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 3: The cost was high. 520 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 4: It was almost unanimous when he came to the celebrity 521 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 4: corporate class that were all jumping on this BLM bandwagon, 522 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: and with that funeral, that very public George Floyd funeral 523 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 4: at a time where so many couldn't say goodbye to 524 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 4: their loved ones because there were. 525 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 3: All sorts of limits on funerals. 526 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: So he just brought it home even more than that 527 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: the elite were operating with their own rules. Now to 528 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 4: the woman who wanted to be president, who was raising money, 529 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: bail money for thugs arrested during the BLM riots. Well, 530 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris was in Australia to speak to a conference 531 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 4: of real estate agents. 532 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 15: The Gold Coast Highway shot for a motorcade of unmistakable authority, 533 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 15: nine unmarked SUVs, police motorbikes and a full US Secret 534 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 15: Service detail. Look at all the cars. Wow, unbelievable. Oh, 535 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 15: it's just the next level state and federal police patrolling 536 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 15: the perimeter. A presidential style protection and entrance for the 537 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 15: headline speaker. 538 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 4: Presidential style protection. Why what do you make of Kamala's 539 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 4: visit down Under? She certainly regaled the land rats with 540 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: her keen insights with word salads and rambling segues. Is 541 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: this her future kosher the speaking circuit? 542 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 5: I think so. 543 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 14: I'm afraid so. And that's just the era we live 544 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 14: in that once you're part of the club president and 545 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 14: vice president, or a candidate, even a failed one, you 546 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 14: only fell upwards. She just signed with CIA, the pre 547 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 14: eminent talent agency in the world, in February. Her speaking 548 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 14: fears a rumored two hundred to three hundred thousand us D. 549 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: She's uniquely bad at speaking, you know, And that's what 550 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: I signed aidable so absurd, and maybe that's why she 551 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: came all the way to the other end of the 552 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 4: world here in Australia, which has put Australia this week 553 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 4: on the map. 554 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 14: And probably not in the way we would like, because 555 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 14: people are paying real money, hard earned money, to to 556 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 14: go to this conference and listen to her, among others. 557 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 14: But it feels to me like it's her training ground. 558 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 14: Go as far away do general leadership, speaking at a 559 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 14: real estate conference at the other end of the world, 560 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 14: and then she's working her way back up to whatever 561 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 14: her plan is. 562 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: Oh, it would have thought it was a little bit 563 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 4: beneath the dignity of the office of a former vice 564 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 4: president to be at a real estate conference on the 565 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 4: Gold Coast and for our American friends, what would that 566 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 4: be like? It's not exactly Vegas. It would be something 567 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 4: like Atlantic City. 568 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: Kind of that kind of vibe that's not really better. 569 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 4: And the real estate agents apparently paid between nine hundred 570 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 4: dollars and seventeen hundred dollars for these two day extravaganza. 571 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 4: A bunch of different speakers, Kamala obviously being one of them. 572 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 4: If that is her future, I'm going to wonder who's 573 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 4: going to give even two hundred thousand or three, four hundred, 574 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 4: five hundred thousand, all those figures have been rumored. 575 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: To hear her speak, because it's not her strength. 576 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 14: No, it's not uniquely bad at that. She is as 577 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 14: you say, And I think the staying power of the 578 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 14: speaking fees will be interesting to see this industry, though 579 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 14: it's a little bit cloak and dagger. You signed with CA, 580 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 14: they book you, whether you're a good speaker or not. 581 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 14: You charge your fees for a period of time, and 582 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 14: it can work. Whereas if she were to ever venture 583 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 14: into something where you have to stand on your own 584 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 14: two feet like a podcast. We're seeing Michelle Obama struggling 585 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 14: with that. That's where I think it might be more difficult. 586 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I do pray for a Kamala podcast 587 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 4: because the amount of material it would give me for 588 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: this program would be overwhelming. Please, Kamala, aren't consider a 589 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 4: podcast now. Meanwhile, POTUS President of the United States was 590 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: at Arlington National Cemetery today in honor of Memorial Day. 591 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 13: Every child that lives in peace, every home that is 592 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 13: filled with joy and love, every day the Republic stands 593 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 13: is only possible because of those who did what had 594 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 13: to be done when duty called, and the cost was 595 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,719 Speaker 13: everything to them and to their families. Our debt to 596 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 13: them is eternal, and it does not diminish with time. 597 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 3: It only grows kosher. 598 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: It was a strong speech and despite the usual suspects 599 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: in the media treating the Trump presidency like it's a 600 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 4: perpetual crisis, the military, the men and women of the 601 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 4: armed forces, have been boosted by the Trump administration. You 602 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 4: only have to look at the recruitment numbers to see 603 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 4: evidence of that. 604 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 3: They're having a huge surge. 605 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: In the number of people who are joining after a 606 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 4: long period of having trouble attracting recruits. 607 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,719 Speaker 14: Absolutely, that is the ultimate metric in a voluntary system 608 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 14: where you don't have a draft. How many people actually 609 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 14: want to sign up to represent their country and what 610 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 14: are they motivated by? Treatment was a huge challenge. On 611 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 14: top of that, they also had attrition because of the 612 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 14: vaccine mandates. A lot of people left, so some of 613 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 14: the best in writers were gone and knew people weren't 614 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 14: signing up and that has been like a one to 615 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 14: eighty turnaround. Obviously, Vans and Pete Haggsath have had their 616 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 14: controversies and people in the media are out to get them, 617 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 14: but they are aspirational figures. You look at that image 618 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 14: of the two of them sitting behind Trump two years ago, 619 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 14: that would have be Kamala Harris and Lloyd Austin sitting behind. 620 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: VI upright, it is buttened up corightly. 621 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 14: If your young recruit, this. 622 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 3: Is quite inspirational. Absolutely. 623 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: Now, before you go, there's been a further development since 624 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 4: Donald Trump called out the anti white racism, anti white 625 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 4: violence in South Africa. Let's hear from Julius Malema, a 626 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: parliamentarian and the founder and leader of the Economic Freedom Fighters. 627 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: I will never be intimidated by America. I will never 628 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 1: be intimidated by Donald Trump. They were speaking about me 629 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: in that meeting at White House. If they were not 630 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: buzzipping about me, they should have called me into that meeting. 631 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: I would have untouched everything that Donald Trump wanted from. 632 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: Us, unapologetic, not backing down, and he again led chance 633 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 4: of kill the boa killed the farmer. I think Donald Trump, 634 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 4: if nothing else, has succeeded in shining a light on 635 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,720 Speaker 4: this very important issue that other world leaders have ignored. 636 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 3: And we saw during. 637 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 4: The horrors of apartheid, just about every world leader take 638 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 4: a stand, whether there were sanctions, whether they were speaking out. 639 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: But this is being ignored up until now. 640 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 14: And Trump really is the master at shaping narratives and 641 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 14: using the bully pulpit to force the media to focus 642 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 14: on whatever the issue of the day is. He's not 643 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 14: missing a beat. Malema over here. He continues to say many, 644 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 14: many vile things. He will not be invited to the 645 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 14: White House. I think that's a little bit about his 646 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 14: per grade. But he's certainly making hay from that meeting, 647 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 14: and it's not backing down. So the more he does that, 648 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 14: hopefully that coupled with Trump's strategy does get more global 649 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 14: media and we're leaders paying attention to it, but it 650 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 14: just seems very difficult for most of them to take 651 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 14: the kind of down that they did when the Reeses 652 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:13,800 Speaker 14: were in reverse. 653 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 4: Well, it was very interesting because obviously he's never going 654 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 4: to be part of the South African team visiting, but 655 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 4: the South Africans did take along a couple of golfers 656 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 4: to try to, I don't know, appeal to Donald Trump's 657 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: love of golf, and he would certainly know who those 658 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 4: players were, their elite players. 659 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 3: But one of them. 660 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 4: Then told a story about how his families involved in 661 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 4: farming and they've been impacted by this violence. They've had 662 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,320 Speaker 4: to deal with people trying to burn down their farm 663 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 4: and go after them. 664 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,520 Speaker 3: So as much as. 665 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 4: Much of the media has tried to paint this as 666 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 4: some sort of a right wing conspiracy, the evidence there 667 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 4: is overwhelming. 668 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 14: That was quite remarkable. Like, on one level, I kind 669 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 14: of felt bad for the South African president because he 670 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 14: came with the strategy, brought the golf legends, and then 671 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 14: the meeting took a different turn. But the fact that 672 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 14: one of them validated that point, that's interesting. Actually, I 673 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 14: didn't know if the President of South Africa knew that 674 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 14: was going to happen, or because that kind of gave 675 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 14: a crack. 676 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 4: I think he knew he was going to have a 677 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 4: TV screen rolled in and had a six minute. 678 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: Tape of anti white violence played for him. 679 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,960 Speaker 4: So yeah he next time, next time a world leader 680 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 4: goes into the Oval office. 681 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 3: Prepared or they will be prepared or hor else. Kosher Gator, 682 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 3: thank you so much. 683 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: I was a pleasure to still to come the phenomenon 684 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 4: that is seeing some of the world's most high profile 685 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 4: atheists turned to God. 686 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 3: Alex Stein joins me next. Welcome back. 687 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 4: Joining me now is comedian and host of Primetime with 688 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 4: Alex Stein on blads TV. Alex Stein, let's start with 689 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 4: a little phenomenon. We've seen in recent times of some 690 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: very famous, very influential atheists rethinking their worldview. And they 691 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 4: don't come much more influential than Joe Rogan. 692 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 3: Have listened to this. 693 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 12: Terrence Wecan had a great line about the difference between 694 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 12: science and religion. Is a science only asks you for 695 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 12: one miracle. I want you to believe in one miracle, 696 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,800 Speaker 12: the Big Bang. 697 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. 698 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 15: A good one. 699 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,720 Speaker 12: It's a great line. It's because it really is true. 700 00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 12: And it's funny because people would be incredulous about the 701 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 12: resurrection of Jesus Christ, but yet they're convinced that the 702 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 12: entire universe is smaller than the head of a pen, 703 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 12: and for no reason than anybody's adequately explained to me. 704 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 12: It makes sense. Yeah, noaneously became everything. Yeah, okay, I 705 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 12: can buy that. I'm starting with Jesus. 706 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jesus makes more sense, Alex. 707 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 4: The New York Post reports that Joe Rogan is attending church. 708 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 3: Is it a miracle? Has he seen the live. 709 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 15: Well read? 710 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 8: I would say it isn't miracle. But I mean, if 711 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 8: you look at what Joe Rogan's going through, I'm not 712 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 8: surprised considering that the science has been wrong about so 713 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 8: many things lately. I mean, just when it comes to 714 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 8: the pandemic and the lockdown, and especially when it comes 715 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 8: to this trans science telling you know, children that they're 716 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 8: born in the wrong body. So I think Joe Rogan, 717 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 8: a guy that's had a lot of scientists on his show, 718 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 8: a guy that I think respects science more than probably 719 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 8: an average person, has lost his faith in science hand 720 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 8: and has found his faith in God. So I'm not surprised, 721 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 8: and really science has yet to explain how, you know, 722 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 8: all life arose from non living matter. I mean, just 723 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 8: the idea that everything came from nothing and that we 724 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 8: evolved from ponds come. I mean, it just sounds highly unlikely. 725 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 8: And that's what Joe is saying. And I think it's obvious. 726 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 8: And you know, there's a lot of different religions, so 727 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 8: there's a lot of different paths to God, but I 728 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 8: think that you know, it's obvious that. 729 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 10: We have a soul. 730 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 8: I believe you have a soul, and Joe Rogan's figuring 731 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 8: that out and it's better late than ever, So, you know, 732 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 8: God bless your Rogan. I hope that he encourages more 733 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 8: people to try to get more connected with the spiritual creator, 734 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 8: whoever that may be. For each individual. 735 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 4: Well, Alex, I do think a lot of individuals, a 736 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 4: lot of men in particular, were red pilled during the 737 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,280 Speaker 4: COVID era Because you look at Joe Rogan, people think he's. 738 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 3: Some right wing reactionary. 739 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 4: He's always been off the left. He was a big 740 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 4: backer of Bernie Sanders. He was a Democrat pretty much 741 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 4: all his life, and it wasn't until COVID, where he 742 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 4: saw how the media lies and manipulates. They went after 743 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,440 Speaker 4: him because he took I think it was Ivan Mechtin 744 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 4: when he got COVID and they were accusing him of 745 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 4: all sorts of craziness that he knew wasn't true, and 746 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 4: that seemed to really change his entire worldview, and how 747 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 4: he saw not just the media but the scientific fraternity, 748 00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 4: and how there's idea logical capture with them as well. 749 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 4: They're not sticking to the facts at all times. 750 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 8: No, I mean to accuse him of taking Horse de 751 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 8: Warmer constantly on CNN and every lamestream media outlet that 752 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 8: would make him lose his faith in the mainstream media 753 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 8: and mainstream science. 754 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,240 Speaker 4: That's it now, from the sublime to the ridiculous. Bruce 755 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 4: Springsteen keeps annoying fans who've paid good money to hear 756 00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 4: him sing his classics. 757 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 3: Instead they are copying undergraduate rants like this. 758 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:47,840 Speaker 6: There's some weird, strange and us going on in America. 759 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 15: They are prosecuting people for using. 760 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 4: Their rate to free speech and voices. 761 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 6: They're to say, this is happening now. 762 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 8: In America. 763 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 13: The richest men are taking satisfaction and abandoning. 764 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 6: The world's forest children to say. 765 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 3: This is happening now. 766 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, it's really too old to be this stupid Alex. 767 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 4: You can tell from the small smashing of pools there 768 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 4: that the audience wanted to stop ranting and to stop singing. 769 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 8: Well, Rita, it's quite embarrassing when you look at Bruce Springsteen, 770 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 8: one of the richest musicians in America, who's had an 771 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 8: incredible career, but he cannot heal from his Trump derangement syndrome. 772 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,560 Speaker 8: And I know that's a cliche at this point, just 773 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 8: accusing everybody of having it, but you know, Rosie O'Donnell 774 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 8: actually moved out of the country. This guy is in 775 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 8: front of an audience of his adoring fans and all 776 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,960 Speaker 8: he wants to do is talk about the person he 777 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 8: hates the most in the world. Like that is a 778 00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 8: mental illness, that's a sickness. He needs to go and 779 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 8: enjoy the audience that he has in front of him 780 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 8: instead of putting them through some sort of college lecture. 781 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 8: It's embarrassing. 782 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 4: Well it was an undergraduate college lecture. It was just 783 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,800 Speaker 4: so ridiculous, and some of the things he said about 784 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 4: the suppression of free speech. You're saying this in the UK, 785 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 4: where you're getting people arrested for just tweeting biological facts. 786 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,239 Speaker 4: So really, if he's concerned about free speech, it would 787 00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 4: be concentrating on what's happening in the UK. 788 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,000 Speaker 3: Let's listen to this further rant from Bruce. 789 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 15: All happening now. The majority of our elected. 790 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 13: Representatives have failed to protect the American people from the 791 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 13: abusions of an. 792 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 3: Unfitted You're right about Rose o'donald. 793 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 4: At least she followed through with what she said she 794 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 4: was going to do, was to flee the country. She's 795 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 4: still bleating about Donald Trump twenty four to seven. He's 796 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 4: obviously still living rent free in her head. But what 797 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:15,560 Speaker 4: about these celebs who campaigned throughout the election season. Bruce 798 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,800 Speaker 4: was at Kamala's rallies, He sang, he performed, He tried 799 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 4: to boost her in whatever way he could, and in 800 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 4: the end she lost comprehensively. Are they ever going to 801 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 4: accept that this is the will of the American people? 802 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 8: Well, I don't think they will. I mean, I don't 803 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 8: understand how they cannot see that over half the country 804 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 8: likes Donald Trump, so that means that over half of 805 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,319 Speaker 8: his fans like Donald Trump. I mean This is just 806 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,759 Speaker 8: a harsh reality that they cannot accept. I know the 807 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 8: fact that they just were all they were all fans. 808 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 8: I can guarantee that you can find clubs of Bruce 809 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:54,360 Speaker 8: Bringstein liking or praising Donald Trump before he ran for president. 810 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,319 Speaker 8: So it just doesn't make sense. They just need to 811 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 8: let it go and just you know, I would say, 812 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 8: get a lot long to go along to just try 813 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 8: to make his life better, his fans better. But instead 814 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 8: these people want to constantly fight and fight and fight 815 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,279 Speaker 8: and defend people like Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, who 816 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 8: are you know, just so incompetent when they're in office. 817 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 8: It's really sad, reader, but that's the Hollywood elite. That's 818 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 8: what these musicians. That's why they all stink, and that's 819 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 8: why the culture is shifting so dramatically. 820 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 11: Now. 821 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 4: The Trump administration has been very strong on the trans issue. 822 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:32,760 Speaker 4: They campaignt heavily on it, and they just announced the. 823 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,240 Speaker 3: So called gender firming procedures. 824 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 4: The gender firming model is no longer going to be 825 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 4: funded through medicaid. 826 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 8: Medicaid will no longer be used to pay for barbaric 827 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 8: gender mutilation procedures on minor children. 828 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 4: Well, promises made, promises kept, Alex. 829 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 3: It's not just the US. 830 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 4: We've seen the same thing in the UK where they're 831 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: pretty much banned puberty blockers for under eighteen. 832 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 3: There's been a massive shift in this area. 833 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 8: Well, I medn't even be a debate. A child can't 834 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,080 Speaker 8: drive a car, child can get a tattoo, a child 835 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 8: can't enter into a contract. So a child shouldn't be 836 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 8: able to decide whether or not they want to get 837 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 8: life changing altering surgery where they can't pro create in 838 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 8: the future, and they lose the ability to even have 839 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 8: any pleasure in a normal relationship. So yes, this is 840 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 8: obvious that they need to stop it for children. And 841 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,960 Speaker 8: if you're over eighteen, I listen. I'm not an anti 842 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 8: this and that you can do what you want to do. 843 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 8: But for children, no, it is a crime. And I 844 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 8: think it should be a crime to tell a child 845 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 8: they're born in the wrong body. So this is a 846 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 8: serious thing the Trump administration. Once again, another one for 847 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 8: the Trump administration, and I. 848 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 4: Really do appreciate though the policies may be similar to 849 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 4: the UK and other parts of the world, I do 850 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 4: appreciate that very bold language we heard there from Caroline Leavitt, 851 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,359 Speaker 4: because that's how many people see this and that's what 852 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 4: it essentially is, and to try to use more sensitive 853 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 4: language as opposed to saying that we are doing enormous 854 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 4: damage to these kids. We are essentially mutilating them, and 855 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 4: they're not shy about saying it. 856 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 3: How it is. 857 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 4: Now, before you go, Alex, you've been out there doing 858 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 4: the Lord's work again, confronting ante on musk protesters with 859 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 4: your musical gifts. 860 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,080 Speaker 8: I don't give a damn because I feel my great 861 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 8: and I just. 862 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 3: Know that he's gonna appear to train. 863 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 15: He's got a lot of babies. 864 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,760 Speaker 2: I don't believe. 865 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 5: I don't believe in evolution. 866 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 8: No, I don't believe that we have bought from poets. 867 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,320 Speaker 3: Come Now, that's a reality. 868 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 8: That's a theory. 869 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,240 Speaker 5: You don't understand the difference. 870 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 3: A big bank theory is just a theory. 871 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 5: I think he's proven. 872 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 3: So tell me about your days, Alex. 873 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 4: You just roam the streets looking for these lefties losing it. 874 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,319 Speaker 3: And just I don't know, break into song. 875 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 4: I'm wondering how you're doing well, and how did you 876 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 4: have the lyrics. 877 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 3: Ready to go? How did you know where he was going? 878 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 3: To go. 879 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 4: It's it's essential to know how you go about your 880 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 4: process as Alex. 881 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 8: Well, Rita, you know, I'm Primetime ninety nine, Alex signed 882 00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 8: the Pimp on a Blunt, the town Hall Terror, the 883 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,960 Speaker 8: number one city council rapper in the world. So when 884 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 8: I go to these protests, Rita, they're there. 885 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: You know quite often that. 886 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 8: That Tesla Cedar Springs Service Center. So I went out 887 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 8: there and I was battling them because they wouldn't talk 888 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 8: to me. So I said, hey, let me try to 889 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,800 Speaker 8: wrap them. Maybe that'll make him laugh, and they did laugh. 890 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 8: But Rita, I was just trying to out absurd them, 891 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,239 Speaker 8: and I think I did the job. But now I'm embarrassed. 892 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 8: Millions of people are going to see this, Rita, so 893 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 8: I didn't expect you to play it. So thank you. 894 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 8: I appreciate it. Everybody go, you know, follow me, but man, 895 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,880 Speaker 8: I'm embarrassed. I hope my dad doesn't wantch follow. 896 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 4: Alex because this is what he does day in and 897 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,280 Speaker 4: day out. He's out there and he's having these confrontations 898 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 4: and somehow not getting himself bashed, which we're grateful for. 899 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 4: Alex Stein, thank you so much for your time and 900 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,240 Speaker 4: that's all the time I've got. I'll see you tomorrow 901 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,880 Speaker 4: night at eleven up. Next it's Newsnight.