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<v Speaker 2>here's what's on the Front. I'm Kristin Amiot. It's Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>September twenty three. Approval for the government has fallen to

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<v Speaker 2>its equal lowest point since the twenty twenty two federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>That's according to new data from Newspoll, which shows Labour's

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<v Speaker 2>stalled housing plan is the top concern for voters. You

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<v Speaker 2>can read our experts analysis of the latest numbers right

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<v Speaker 2>now at the Australian dot com dot a u Taiwan

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<v Speaker 2>wants un membership and it needs Penny Wong's help to

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<v Speaker 2>get it. The self governed territory has asked the Foreign

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<v Speaker 2>Minister to throw her support behind un BID after Australia

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<v Speaker 2>backed Palestine's admission to the International organization. Mining giants have

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<v Speaker 2>launched a federal court bid to throw out a ruling

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<v Speaker 2>about workers' entitlements. It's the first big test for the

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<v Speaker 2>Albanzi government's new rules about how employees can negotiate with

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<v Speaker 2>their bosses. That's today's story. Imagine for a second You're

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<v Speaker 2>a worker on a mining site somewhere in New South

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<v Speaker 2>Wales and the supervisor rostered on to monitor safety protocols

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<v Speaker 2>during your shift is out of action for one reason

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<v Speaker 2>or another. You could work, but it's risky. What if

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<v Speaker 2>something goes wrong, So you and your colleagues go the

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<v Speaker 2>other route, walking off the job until you can come

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<v Speaker 2>to an agreement with your employer about how to proceed.

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<v Speaker 2>The bosses in head office note those conversations could drag on,

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<v Speaker 2>so they make the call shut the site down until

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<v Speaker 2>all the necessary people are back on deck. Mining bosses

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<v Speaker 2>say these costly shutdowns could be their new reality thanks

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<v Speaker 2>to sweeping industrial relations reforms, which were legislated in late

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two. For the centerpiece of the government's first

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<v Speaker 2>wave of UR reforms, a multi employer bargaining is available

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<v Speaker 2>to employees from today. The reforms or one of a

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<v Speaker 2>handful of big wins for labor in the early days

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<v Speaker 2>of this government. Here's former Workplace Relations Minister Tony Burke.

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<v Speaker 3>The laws so far are working exactly how we'd anticipated

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<v Speaker 3>and not quite matching up with the fear campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, the legislation allows unions to negotiate workplace agreements across

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<v Speaker 2>multiple businesses in the same industry. Then once a deal

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<v Speaker 2>is struck, they can bring in more businesses that stand

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<v Speaker 2>to benefit from that agreement. The Albanezi government assured big

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<v Speaker 2>mining companies they had nothing to worry about because the

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<v Speaker 2>reforms were targeted at low paid industries and smaller operations.

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<v Speaker 2>But the minor say unions have leapt it the chance

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<v Speaker 2>to enforce multi employer bargaining on mining sites, and a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of weeks ago the Fair Work Commission gave it

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<v Speaker 2>a big nudge. It ordered the New South Wales coal miners,

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<v Speaker 2>white Haven Coal, Peabody Energy and Ewle And Coal Mines

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<v Speaker 2>to enter a joint bargaining process, saying they have a

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<v Speaker 2>clear common interest. Now they're fighting back.

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<v Speaker 1>This has caused a lot of consternation and anxiety. We've

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<v Speaker 1>now seen white Haven Coal, Peabody and glen Core joining

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<v Speaker 1>forces in what really is now a landmark test case

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<v Speaker 1>of the Urbanezy government's multi employer bargaining laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Chambers is The Australian's chief political correspondent.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, glen Core and Peabody are big multinational companies in

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<v Speaker 1>Whitehaven is one of Australia's biggest coal producers, all three

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<v Speaker 1>very important exporters contribute a lot to the New South

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<v Speaker 1>Wales and Australian economy and they will go to the

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<v Speaker 1>Federal Court and they will seek an appeal to overturn

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<v Speaker 1>the Fairwork Commission ruling. And under that ruling, the Fair

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<v Speaker 1>Work Commission has pretty much agreed with the unions that

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<v Speaker 1>brought the action that there is a common interest, and

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<v Speaker 1>that common interest is that these companies mine the same

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<v Speaker 1>commodity in the same state.

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<v Speaker 2>Labour's been under increasing pressure to wind back the multi

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<v Speaker 2>employer bargaining legislation more or less since it passed. Opposition

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<v Speaker 2>Leader Peter Dutton has promised to repeal the laws if

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<v Speaker 2>his party wins government at the next federal election.

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<v Speaker 3>So we will take a policy that's in our country's

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<v Speaker 3>best interests, that provides support to workers, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>make it impossible, particularly for small businesses to employ staff,

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<v Speaker 3>because particularly when the economy to turns down, we want

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<v Speaker 3>employers to err on the side of keeping those workers on.

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<v Speaker 2>Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi has offered a tacit refusal to

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<v Speaker 2>walk back the laws. Instead, he's taking the nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>see here approach. His speech to the Business Council of

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<v Speaker 2>Australia on Tuesday night avoided any mention of it entirely,

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<v Speaker 2>and Workplace Relations Minister Murray Watt is digging in. He

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<v Speaker 2>says multi employer agreements are good for the economy because

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<v Speaker 2>they increase flexibility and boost productivity. Plus, the Queensland Senator

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<v Speaker 2>says only one agreement has been struck in the heating,

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<v Speaker 2>ventilation and air conditioning industry, but mining bosses fear other

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<v Speaker 2>industries employing thousands of Australian workers like banks, supermarkets and

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<v Speaker 2>iron ore companies could be in the Fair Work Commission

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<v Speaker 2>sites as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, what the mining companies say, and this is the

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<v Speaker 1>same across all bigger businesses, is that there are differences

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<v Speaker 1>between the types of companies, the types of areas where

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<v Speaker 1>people work, and the types of operations. So you're basically

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<v Speaker 1>under multi employer bargaining. Suggests that one size fits all,

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<v Speaker 1>and as plenty of workers in the mining industry know

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's iron ore or coal or LNG, they're in

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<v Speaker 1>different locations, there are different considerations. There is also concerns

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<v Speaker 1>that other sectors could be hit because if you run

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<v Speaker 1>the same common interest test. You can say the same

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<v Speaker 1>for banks, supermarkets, and very concerningly for the mining industry,

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<v Speaker 1>the iron ore companies up in the Pilboro and Western

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<v Speaker 1>Australia now more widely, they're concerned about remaining globally competitive

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<v Speaker 1>and sustainable. And it's a concern about the unions growing

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<v Speaker 1>their power and walking into one work site operated by

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<v Speaker 1>one company and then onto a different work site by

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<v Speaker 1>another company and then lumping them all in as one.

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<v Speaker 2>So what could it mean for Labour's Grand industrial vision

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<v Speaker 2>if white Haven, Peabody and Yulen get up in court.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's very much a text for the Fair

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<v Speaker 1>Work Commission and for the unions. If they can hold

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<v Speaker 1>this up in front of the Federal Court, then we

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<v Speaker 1>will potentially see this then being applied across the country

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<v Speaker 1>for the private sector. For business. They want to use

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<v Speaker 1>this as a test case to show why this is

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<v Speaker 1>not the right application under the law. So there's a

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<v Speaker 1>real standoff, and we hear a lot about big business

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<v Speaker 1>and mining being at war with the Albanese government. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that has to do with multi employer bargaining.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think there's been a few bridges burnt and

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<v Speaker 1>the timing of this. Putting aside the Federal Court appeal,

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<v Speaker 1>there will be more widely a lot of campaigning and

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<v Speaker 1>activity because the unions have great influence over this government

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<v Speaker 1>and they would be concerned not only did they can't

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<v Speaker 1>have a open discussion about where things might not be

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<v Speaker 1>working or some of their concerns, but also more tranches

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<v Speaker 1>of legislation than coming through. And they're also really concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about a hung parliament scenario where there's a Labor Greens

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<v Speaker 1>independent government, and they're just really concerned at a time

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<v Speaker 1>of such low productivity, low economic growth, high interest rates,

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<v Speaker 1>that we are making ourselves more globally uncompetitive with much

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<v Speaker 1>more complex IR laws.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up. Why the coalition's nuclear energy plan is still

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<v Speaker 2>up in the air. Subscribers to The Australian get first

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<v Speaker 2>after this break.

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<v Speaker 3>So that the government has a renewables only policy which

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<v Speaker 3>is just not fit for purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Opposition leader Peter Dutton. In June he announced his

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<v Speaker 2>party will go all in on nuclear energy if it

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<v Speaker 2>wins the next election.

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<v Speaker 3>No other country in the world can keep the lights

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<v Speaker 3>on twenty four to seven with the renewables only policy.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to make sure that hospitals can stay on

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to seven. We need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>cold rooms can stay on twenty four seven. We need

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<v Speaker 3>to make sure that our economy can function twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>to seven, and we can only do that with a

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<v Speaker 3>strong base low power.

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<v Speaker 2>The coalition has proposed building a mix of smaller modular

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<v Speaker 2>nuclear reactors and full sized facilities on sites of existing

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<v Speaker 2>power stations around the country, but for months now it's

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<v Speaker 2>declined to explain how much its big pivot to nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>energy could cost, saying only that those details would be

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<v Speaker 2>released in due course. And in a speech to the

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<v Speaker 2>Committee for Economic Development of Australia today, Dutton will toe

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<v Speaker 2>the party line. He says energy transformation like the one

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<v Speaker 2>he's proposing could create thousands of jobs, but he still

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<v Speaker 2>won't get into the numbers. On Sunday morning, Treasurer at

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<v Speaker 2>Jim Chalmers said that's not good enough.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that this is economic insanity. He is a

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<v Speaker 4>big risk to energy and to power prices in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>The fact that he's not prepared to release those details

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<v Speaker 4>I think should ring alarm bells for every Australia. It's

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<v Speaker 4>time for him to come clean.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Jeff Chambers.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 1>I think from Peter Dudden's perspective, there is such great

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<v Speaker 1>weight of pressure on Anthony Albernesi and the Labor government

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<v Speaker 1>around the cost of living and housing, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think Peter Dudden wants to provide any ammunition too early

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<v Speaker 1>for a government that's really quite desperate on several fronts

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment. And we've all got to recall that

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Alberzi waited until much closer to the twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>election before he put out his Powering Australia Plan, and famously,

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<v Speaker 1>in that plan they promised that they'd be reducing electricity

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<v Speaker 1>bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think Peter Duden is just banking on the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of anger is directed at the government and

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<v Speaker 1>there's this rising speculation that we're all looking at a

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<v Speaker 1>slightly earlier March election, which means we come out of

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<v Speaker 1>December into the summer January and we see an election

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<v Speaker 1>called pretty swiftly after that.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Chambers is The Australian's chief political correspondent, You can

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<v Speaker 2>read his exclusive story about the court action launched by

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<v Speaker 2>some of the nation's mining bosses right now at the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian dot com dot au