1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: You can listen to the Front on your smart speaker 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: every morning to hear the latest episode. 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: Just say play the news from the Australian. From the Australian, 4 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: here's what's on the Front. I'm Kristin Amiot. It's Monday, 5 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: September twenty three. Approval for the government has fallen to 6 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: its equal lowest point since the twenty twenty two federal election. 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 2: That's according to new data from Newspoll, which shows Labour's 8 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: stalled housing plan is the top concern for voters. You 9 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: can read our experts analysis of the latest numbers right 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 2: now at the Australian dot com dot a u Taiwan 11 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 2: wants un membership and it needs Penny Wong's help to 12 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: get it. The self governed territory has asked the Foreign 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: Minister to throw her support behind un BID after Australia 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: backed Palestine's admission to the International organization. Mining giants have 15 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 2: launched a federal court bid to throw out a ruling 16 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: about workers' entitlements. It's the first big test for the 17 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: Albanzi government's new rules about how employees can negotiate with 18 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: their bosses. That's today's story. Imagine for a second You're 19 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 2: a worker on a mining site somewhere in New South 20 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: Wales and the supervisor rostered on to monitor safety protocols 21 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,639 Speaker 2: during your shift is out of action for one reason 22 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 2: or another. You could work, but it's risky. What if 23 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: something goes wrong, So you and your colleagues go the 24 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 2: other route, walking off the job until you can come 25 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 2: to an agreement with your employer about how to proceed. 26 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: The bosses in head office note those conversations could drag on, 27 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: so they make the call shut the site down until 28 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 2: all the necessary people are back on deck. Mining bosses 29 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 2: say these costly shutdowns could be their new reality thanks 30 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 2: to sweeping industrial relations reforms, which were legislated in late 31 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. For the centerpiece of the government's first 32 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: wave of UR reforms, a multi employer bargaining is available 33 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 2: to employees from today. The reforms or one of a 34 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: handful of big wins for labor in the early days 35 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: of this government. Here's former Workplace Relations Minister Tony Burke. 36 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: The laws so far are working exactly how we'd anticipated 37 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 3: and not quite matching up with the fear campaign. 38 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 2: Basically, the legislation allows unions to negotiate workplace agreements across 39 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: multiple businesses in the same industry. Then once a deal 40 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: is struck, they can bring in more businesses that stand 41 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 2: to benefit from that agreement. The Albanezi government assured big 42 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 2: mining companies they had nothing to worry about because the 43 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: reforms were targeted at low paid industries and smaller operations. 44 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 2: But the minor say unions have leapt it the chance 45 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: to enforce multi employer bargaining on mining sites, and a 46 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago the Fair Work Commission gave it 47 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: a big nudge. It ordered the New South Wales coal miners, 48 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: white Haven Coal, Peabody Energy and Ewle And Coal Mines 49 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: to enter a joint bargaining process, saying they have a 50 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: clear common interest. Now they're fighting back. 51 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: This has caused a lot of consternation and anxiety. We've 52 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: now seen white Haven Coal, Peabody and glen Core joining 53 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: forces in what really is now a landmark test case 54 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: of the Urbanezy government's multi employer bargaining laws. 55 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 2: Jeff Chambers is The Australian's chief political correspondent. 56 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Now, glen Core and Peabody are big multinational companies in 57 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: Whitehaven is one of Australia's biggest coal producers, all three 58 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: very important exporters contribute a lot to the New South 59 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: Wales and Australian economy and they will go to the 60 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:15,119 Speaker 1: Federal Court and they will seek an appeal to overturn 61 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: the Fairwork Commission ruling. And under that ruling, the Fair 62 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: Work Commission has pretty much agreed with the unions that 63 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: brought the action that there is a common interest, and 64 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 1: that common interest is that these companies mine the same 65 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: commodity in the same state. 66 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: Labour's been under increasing pressure to wind back the multi 67 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: employer bargaining legislation more or less since it passed. Opposition 68 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 2: Leader Peter Dutton has promised to repeal the laws if 69 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 2: his party wins government at the next federal election. 70 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 3: So we will take a policy that's in our country's 71 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: best interests, that provides support to workers, but that doesn't 72 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: make it impossible, particularly for small businesses to employ staff, 73 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: because particularly when the economy to turns down, we want 74 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: employers to err on the side of keeping those workers on. 75 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Albanezi has offered a tacit refusal to 76 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: walk back the laws. Instead, he's taking the nothing to 77 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: see here approach. His speech to the Business Council of 78 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: Australia on Tuesday night avoided any mention of it entirely, 79 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: and Workplace Relations Minister Murray Watt is digging in. He 80 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 2: says multi employer agreements are good for the economy because 81 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 2: they increase flexibility and boost productivity. Plus, the Queensland Senator 82 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: says only one agreement has been struck in the heating, 83 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 2: ventilation and air conditioning industry, but mining bosses fear other 84 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 2: industries employing thousands of Australian workers like banks, supermarkets and 85 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: iron ore companies could be in the Fair Work Commission 86 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: sites as well. 87 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: Ultimately, what the mining companies say, and this is the 88 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: same across all bigger businesses, is that there are differences 89 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: between the types of companies, the types of areas where 90 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: people work, and the types of operations. So you're basically 91 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: under multi employer bargaining. Suggests that one size fits all, 92 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: and as plenty of workers in the mining industry know 93 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: whether it's iron ore or coal or LNG, they're in 94 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: different locations, there are different considerations. There is also concerns 95 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 1: that other sectors could be hit because if you run 96 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: the same common interest test. You can say the same 97 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: for banks, supermarkets, and very concerningly for the mining industry, 98 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: the iron ore companies up in the Pilboro and Western 99 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: Australia now more widely, they're concerned about remaining globally competitive 100 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: and sustainable. And it's a concern about the unions growing 101 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: their power and walking into one work site operated by 102 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: one company and then onto a different work site by 103 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: another company and then lumping them all in as one. 104 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: So what could it mean for Labour's Grand industrial vision 105 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: if white Haven, Peabody and Yulen get up in court. 106 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I think it's very much a text for the Fair 107 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: Work Commission and for the unions. If they can hold 108 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: this up in front of the Federal Court, then we 109 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: will potentially see this then being applied across the country 110 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: for the private sector. For business. They want to use 111 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: this as a test case to show why this is 112 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: not the right application under the law. So there's a 113 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: real standoff, and we hear a lot about big business 114 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: and mining being at war with the Albanese government. A 115 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with multi employer bargaining. 116 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: So I think there's been a few bridges burnt and 117 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: the timing of this. Putting aside the Federal Court appeal, 118 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: there will be more widely a lot of campaigning and 119 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: activity because the unions have great influence over this government 120 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: and they would be concerned not only did they can't 121 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: have a open discussion about where things might not be 122 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: working or some of their concerns, but also more tranches 123 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: of legislation than coming through. And they're also really concerned 124 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: about a hung parliament scenario where there's a Labor Greens 125 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: independent government, and they're just really concerned at a time 126 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: of such low productivity, low economic growth, high interest rates, 127 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: that we are making ourselves more globally uncompetitive with much 128 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: more complex IR laws. 129 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 2: Coming up. Why the coalition's nuclear energy plan is still 130 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: up in the air. Subscribers to The Australian get first 131 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 2: access to exclusive stories like this one. Join us at 132 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: the Australian dot com dot au and we'll be back 133 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: after this break. 134 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: So that the government has a renewables only policy which 135 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 3: is just not fit for purpose. 136 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: That's Opposition leader Peter Dutton. In June he announced his 137 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 2: party will go all in on nuclear energy if it 138 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 2: wins the next election. 139 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 3: No other country in the world can keep the lights 140 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: on twenty four to seven with the renewables only policy. 141 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 3: We need to make sure that hospitals can stay on 142 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: twenty four to seven. We need to make sure that 143 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 3: cold rooms can stay on twenty four seven. We need 144 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: to make sure that our economy can function twenty four 145 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 3: to seven, and we can only do that with a 146 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 3: strong base low power. 147 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 2: The coalition has proposed building a mix of smaller modular 148 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 2: nuclear reactors and full sized facilities on sites of existing 149 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: power stations around the country, but for months now it's 150 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: declined to explain how much its big pivot to nuclear 151 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: energy could cost, saying only that those details would be 152 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: released in due course. And in a speech to the 153 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 2: Committee for Economic Development of Australia today, Dutton will toe 154 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: the party line. He says energy transformation like the one 155 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: he's proposing could create thousands of jobs, but he still 156 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: won't get into the numbers. On Sunday morning, Treasurer at 157 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers said that's not good enough. 158 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: I think that this is economic insanity. He is a 159 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: big risk to energy and to power prices in this country. 160 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 4: The fact that he's not prepared to release those details 161 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 4: I think should ring alarm bells for every Australia. It's 162 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 4: time for him to come clean. 163 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: Here's Jeff Chambers. 164 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 3: Look. 165 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: I think from Peter Dudden's perspective, there is such great 166 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: weight of pressure on Anthony Albernesi and the Labor government 167 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: around the cost of living and housing, and I don't 168 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: think Peter Dudden wants to provide any ammunition too early 169 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: for a government that's really quite desperate on several fronts 170 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: at the moment. And we've all got to recall that 171 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: Anthony Alberzi waited until much closer to the twenty two 172 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: election before he put out his Powering Australia Plan, and famously, 173 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: in that plan they promised that they'd be reducing electricity 174 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: bills by two hundred and seventy five dollars. So I 175 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: think Peter Duden is just banking on the fact that 176 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot of anger is directed at the government and 177 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: there's this rising speculation that we're all looking at a 178 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: slightly earlier March election, which means we come out of 179 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: December into the summer January and we see an election 180 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: called pretty swiftly after that. 181 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 2: Jeff Chambers is The Australian's chief political correspondent, You can 182 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: read his exclusive story about the court action launched by 183 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: some of the nation's mining bosses right now at the 184 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: Australian dot com dot au