WEBVTT - RACE TO THE FINALS! Can Penrith Win Without Yeo? 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.480 Well, well, well, you certainly jinxed your mate thirty two 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:08.640 from thirty two couldn't miss Then suddenly, mate, did you 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:09.400 get involved? 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.719 I look, I've had a lot of Shark fans dm 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.680 me about it and of our listeners calling me the 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:18.119 mock getting straight into me. I don't think it was me. 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:20.880 I think it was a big hype into it before 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.800 me rewarding him with blonde hair bet. Potentially, I think 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:27.600 it's it's I heard Jimmy Maloney talking on a podcast 0:00:27.680 --> 0:00:29.920 during the week. Actually he went on a similar run. 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:32.919 I think when he whenever Daryl Halligan was coaching him 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:34.440 goal kicking it what do when he was at Penrith, 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:36.280 I think he kicked like twenty seven or something or 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.879 twenty six in a row yep and didn't realize he 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:41.880 was on a streak, and then Daryl Halligan said to him, 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:44.280 made the streaks going good, hitting him really well like 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:45.800 you're looking at I think he was looking at breaking 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:48.680 the Penrith record for that yep first kick the next 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.000 like two days later when he was playing just because 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.400 it had been drawn to his attention or missed it 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:55.920 and he said, hit it really poorly. So it's one 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.400 of those things you almost wanted like just not know 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:00.120 what's going on. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:02.520 Yeah, you know what I mean. It's interesting with goalkickers, 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.399 yeah goalkicking. To speak to people who have but who 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.479 are the top tier kickers, They say, goal kicking has 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.200 nothing to do with the ball. It's just everything going 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.680 on between the years, and it's trying to shut off 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.440 that noise. You've got a certain technique, things that you 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.479 want to do, or your cues, but you don't want 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.120 to focus on the cues, you know what I mean. 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.680 It's almost like unconscious. So it's such a fine line 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:28.040 in so many different aspects. And you see different guys 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.119 like Mark Rodell who's put the arm in the air, 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:32.400 you know. You see different guys that will hold there, 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:36.800 like Johnny Wilkinson would actually with his left hand hold 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.120 his right arm to keep that shoulder square. All these 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.600 little cues, but at the very essence of it, you're 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:44.560 trying to forget all those things and just block it 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:48.160 all out and just quite in the mind. I don't 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.600 imagine when you're going into kick sometimes in your mind 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:54.400 you're going okay, like it's just working a million miles now, 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:55.720 You're just trying to shut it up. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.880 Well, it's even like you look at the goal kicker 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:02.160 every other aspect of the game. It's so quick you 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:03.960 don't have time to think about it. But it's like 0:02:04.040 --> 0:02:06.960 your score and then it's just you there the goalkicker, 0:02:07.000 --> 0:02:08.720 You walk back, you set it up on the tee, 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:10.920 and it's like you almost you just want it done 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.880 because it's like the build up of the crowd. The 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.320 kids start to flaunter over where you are, start giving 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.560 your ship, you know, start getting into youa. 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:19.320 What do you obviously the penalty shootouts, you know the 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.720 World Cup or you know Champions League penalty shootouts at 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:24.400 the end of the game, what's the first thing that 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:28.800 the goalkeeper does. The goalkeeper walks out, walks around, walks 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.600 up to the strike cab, walks back again, and the 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.360 referee is trying to hurry him up because they know 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:37.160 all they're doing is dragging it out and exerting pressure 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:41.080 on the on the guys take the penalty goal and 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:42.640 the other one who's made you see with the NBA 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.240 with the shoot you know, like got free throw, free throw, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:46.880 so they just given more time to think about it. 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.959 Yeah, you overthink. The beauty of a game is it's quick. 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:51.400 You actually don't have time to think. All you do 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.919 when is reacting. We're about to talk about the isaiaho 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.480 Peck injury, but just on the Sharkis for one more second. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.440 They got beat by the Wooden Speed the Dragons. People 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.280 have been tipping the Sharkis to go really good. I 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.720 actually thought the Dragons they probably beat a lot of 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:10.079 other teams on their day. They played really really well, 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.360 played really well. Do you how do you see that lost? 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.560 Is that something where you look at the Sharks and 0:03:15.639 --> 0:03:18.120 you put a line to them through them for finals 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.120 or an extent or is it a good freshen up 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:21.160 before finals? 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.720 This season Cooper is so it's been so bizarre that 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.880 you know, it's unlike any other season. The fact that, 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.280 I mean, how would how would you still think that 0:03:30.320 --> 0:03:32.800 the Dolphins can win this competition after being beat sixty 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:36.200 six No, but by the Sharks. But it's just the 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:39.960 nature of this competition. You know, teams rack up scores 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:45.920 really quickly. Other teams don't so much lose form but 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.520 just come off for a week or two. It's a 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:50.920 little bit like that, Like you said, coopas to look 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:52.920 at the Dragons where they are in the ladder and go, oh, 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.280 you know, jeez, that's a really bad loss. But mate, 0:03:56.320 --> 0:03:59.240 the Dragons have proven themselves. One thing doing Young's done 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.560 really quickly with them is turn them into a tough 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.080 side to beat. And I've said this before, the people 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:09.360 at the very base of a rugby league side. If 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.720 you're coaching aside the very base, the number one thing 0:04:11.760 --> 0:04:14.080 you must set up is the fact that before you 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.960 talk about winning and everything, you must be a tough 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.360 side to beat. You know, and yeah, okay, what does 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.720 that entail? What it means You're a side that doesn't 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.839 give up cheap field position, doesn't make a lot of errors. 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.320 You know, they kick well to the corners, they chase hard, 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:32.200 they're enthusiastic with defense. Those very basic things make you 0:04:32.240 --> 0:04:36.640 a very hard side to beat. And that's how it 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.159 proved against against the Sharkies. There's been little cues coming 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:43.359 about the Sharks after that Dolphins win. There's been you know, 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:46.080 when you go on a long winning run, oftentimes when 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.359 the when the loss eventually happens, you go back and 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.120 have your football you're playing, say two or three games 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:54.240 into the long winning streak, and compared to where your 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.240 football got to and you go, oh god, we got sloppy, 0:04:57.440 --> 0:04:59.520 you know all those hilarious and I reckon the first 0:04:59.520 --> 0:05:03.039 sign could it was last week with FITZI, when FITZI 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:05.520 was up in that box. Last week's the most animated 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.000 I've ever seen him, and like hitting the table and 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.760 I mean effectively they had the game ounder control. But 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.520 he was obviously seeing things that were slipping into their 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:17.280 football that he didn't like. That's probably held them back 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:20.080 in previous campaigns. Yeah, I thought it was more FITZI 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.600 trying to strong arm the team, going mate, hoping it's 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.080 on camera to show them, But I think the other 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.200 way now, I'm thinking he's starting to see he saw 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:29.480 some things coming into their game. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:31.880 Well, even a lot of people looked at their draw 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:33.840 for the last four and they went, it's a real 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:37.440 easy draw to the extent where Sharks may finish first 0:05:37.720 --> 0:05:39.560 because they should win all these games. I don't think 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.680 they have many teams in the top eight. I don't 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.080 think they have any teams in the top eight their 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:47.159 last sort of four games. So you almost look the 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.680 other end and go, this Dragon's game. Although it's a 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.080 shock to the system and fans are probably going how 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:53.680 they're going to win the comp. They're getting beat by 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.280 team coming last. It might be a thing where they 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.919 can go into review this week and FITZI can go like, 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.240 fix up these detail is it clearly he's seen and 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.480 you've seen slipping and they actually had it's a real 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.440 tough game that they had yesterday leading into the finals. 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:10.320 It would be a really good practice to go and say, right, 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.039 just let's have a look at all our stuff we 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:16.960 did in week two of our long run. Now, let's 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.080 just have a look at how we were last week 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.479 against South's you know, and then how that turned into 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.680 this week. It's really funny, Coop. I'm not being a 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:28.520 smart ass saying this or you know, coming out in 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:31.159 revision going oh you know what I said in this 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.120 arrest of it. But the best example I can give 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:39.200 people on how long winning streaks can actually be bad 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.560 for football is the Melbourne Storm side you played. 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.039 In that year Falcons. 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:47.440 I don't know the Storm when you is win nineteen 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:51.440 in a row. Yeah, not the NRL side, the l 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:54.679 twenty twenty one, Yeah twenty twenty. You were in that side. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.440 You were part of that side. You went in for 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.280 different spots. You guys won nineteen in a row and 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:02.520 for a long time in the season started looking like 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:03.679 unbeatable magic. 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.360 It was the year after Cameron Smith retired to remember 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:07.960 the Boys hit the ground running yep. 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:10.400 And I'm telling you you've played a game against the 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:14.560 Cowboys and I went away and all those won the game. 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.160 I said, there's no way. They say I was going 0:07:16.200 --> 0:07:18.760 to win the competition. They're like, why is that? And 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.760 I said, have a look at how far their football's deteriorated. 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.080 And they're like, oh, yeah, but they'll get it back 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:26.400 on track. I said, no, no, no, it's been going 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.320 bad for quite a while. I think it's got past 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.920 to the point at the part of the it's hit 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.160 the time of the season. I don't think they've got 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:38.720 time to adjust it back. And I still maintain that 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.800 that when you've got to game nineteen and twenty, I 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:44.520 remember just going mate the foot. The football was so bad, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:46.720 Like it got so bad. You played a game against 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:49.840 the Cowboys and like the Boys doing things on the 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:52.640 sidel like running over the sideline, you know, just doing 0:07:52.680 --> 0:08:00.400 really stupid things. That was. It was very unlike Melbourne 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:02.920 say that the least at the time, but it was just. 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.680 How far is too gone, Like are you saying, are 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.080 you saying it's too far gone, you're too close to 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.520 the finals, or it's so far gone that if you 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:13.400 go on a streak that long and it does get 0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:16.120 to that stage that it's almost too far gone. 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:18.200 I think Jacket a little bit of both. I think 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.680 I think there's certain things that can creep into your 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:23.520 football that once they're in there, it almost takes an 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.960 offseason get them out to have it. It becomes habitual, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:29.559 and winning covers a lot of that. When you're winning 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:33.479 games and long winning streak. Even the coach can recognize 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.720 that things creeping in. But because you're winning, you're getting w's, 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.280 it sort of smethers over the cracks. The then would 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.640 it's when suddenly the loss finally happens. 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:46.120 It just like, well, I remember that year, like I 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:49.040 like you said, the boys were like unstoppable, even when 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.600 people were getting injured and going in like the next 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.520 man up, like everyone was getting wrapped in that who 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.720 was going into that side? And then I think it 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.880 was the game. It's the preliminary finance against Panda Panthers 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.920 and a team that hadn't you know, hadn't been going 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.200 on this run. We'd won the mind A Premiership, but 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.959 you go on such a long run and then for that, 0:09:09.040 --> 0:09:11.160 for those nine En games, you're the standard. Everyone's doing 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.400 video on you, taking your good stuff, you know, picking 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.040 apart your guys game and they got up there and 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:18.920 I remember at the end of that game the boys 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:22.400 got beat. I didn't play in that and Craig Bellamy 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:24.920 said to the boys in the sheds after game, this 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.160 was the most winnable competition that I've ever coached in 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:30.800 my life, and we've let that slip, like nineteen games 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.080 in a row. It's almost bet a bit of complacency, 0:09:33.120 --> 0:09:35.360 and there's a bit of psychological stuff like the Nico 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.560 goalkicking thirty two in a row. You almost think like 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:41.000 a loss is coming. You know you can't you can't 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.640 go underfeed forever. You know a loss is coming. And 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:45.839 then you get into finals where you almost want to 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:48.520 have a finals. So there a loss before finals, so 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.120 the pressure's gone, the streak is gone, and you can 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:51.600 start again. 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.720 Well, I think we've gone a long way around saying 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.160 that that loss. I don't think time will hurt the 0:09:57.160 --> 0:09:59.679 Sharks too much. Yeah, I think it's I think it's 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:02.440 probably come at the right time, if their football had 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:06.800 just started to deteriorate, if Fitzi's recognized that their football 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:09.760 reached just peak at sixty six l and since then 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.000 it's just been gradually going off a little bit. I 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:15.559 think that that win coming at this moment is God's. 0:10:15.280 --> 0:10:17.840 Hand something to you can never doubt the back end 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:19.840 of the year. And I know it sounds funny, but 0:10:20.360 --> 0:10:23.480 like those teams at the bottom, they've started looking towards 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.400 Mad Monday. And when you do that, it gives you 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:28.800 a little bit of extra energy because you want to 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.199 finish on a high as you know, you might finish 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:33.440 the year in a spot you don't want to be in, 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:37.880 but you know, and I'll say this amongst some teammates 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:40.520 I've had in the past, if you finish low, some 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:42.839 people take it like if you finish going to Mad 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:43.520 Money off a win. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.880 They almost go into Mad Monday as if they just 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:46.480 won the calm. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.000 Yeah yeah, well yeah, on a a week such a 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:50.679 long time, you can lose ten in a row and 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.520 they have a really good win. Like the Dragons, they've 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.160 won two games all year. They're probably sitting there in 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:57.480 review to day going, yes, how good a we gone. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:10:59.000 But there's one three games. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:00.720 Yeah, let's be real. Yeah that's right. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.360 Now, let's get in the biggest news at the moment 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:06.480 leading into finals, because the ladder's starting to tape shape. 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:10.720 But Isaiah Oh in that Warriors game on Friday night 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.400 has it looks like a pack injury. They're still kind 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:16.559 of keeping their class to the chest. I reckon by 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.120 tomorrow when this comes out, we'll probably know more. But 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.200 it didn't look good and it looks like a pack 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:22.959 from everything I've seen in Peck injuries. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.280 It does coop. It is look like Isaiah is going 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.640 to be part of this competition all the part of this, 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.080 the rest of this campaign for Penrith. It has surprised 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:33.760 me to look. Firstly off the top is how big 0:11:33.760 --> 0:11:36.440 a loss it. It's a huge loss, huge loss because 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:39.280 he's as much as their halfback as Nathan is. As 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.400 far as you know where, you know when when to 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.160 call the ball, when to take the ball forward, when 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.400 to push it sideways, you know where should it go, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.160 he has a huge role in that. It's a huge loss. 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.400 I am surprised how quickly people have come out and said, oh, 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:54.120 they can't win them. Put the line through them. And 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:55.679 there's a lot of people have come out and said that, 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.760 do you think they can still win the COMPA, Yeah, 0:11:57.760 --> 0:11:58.679 they're still my favorites. 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.040 The coow think they're saut there. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.080 They've had a really good apprenticeship there for Lindy Lindsay 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.520 Smith like he's been doing. If you watch some of 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:09.160 his staff when he's not starting it comes on, he 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:09.640 does the. 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.400 Role quite well. 0:12:11.520 --> 0:12:14.319 Jack. I really think it'd be a mistake to try 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.000 to play the same way you just Lindsey can, but 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.160 Lindsay at this point hasn't got the past selection and 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.240 the vision that Isaiah had. I think it would be 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.439 a mistake from Penrith to try to get get someone 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:29.880 like Lindsay and say right, I guess now you're going 0:12:29.920 --> 0:12:33.800 to play the Ya role. I think this could push 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:41.040 Nathan towards probably another level. I think this has I 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:43.600 really like I don't like Nathan so much on sweep 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.000 shapes where Isaiah Gallant to the ball short out of 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:49.640 the back of Nathan sweeping, it's effective, It's really effective. 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.280 I get that at work sometimes. But for Nathan's best football, 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.640 Nathan to me always plays his best football when he 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.600 puts pushes up flat at the event at the ruck line, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.240 and he's dead square because when he's standing square out 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.400 and going to the defense, every option is available to him. 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:10.480 When he's on sweep shape, sweeping behind plays off Isaiah, 0:13:10.640 --> 0:13:13.080 he's going down a Coula sack. Now he can't check back. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:15.200 He's on that one way route and he does little 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.240 deceptive players all the rest of it. But he's not 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:20.040 near as as dangerous as when he's on that first receiver. 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:22.560 And I'll say the same about Reece Walsh. That's why 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:25.040 I really like it when Adam Reynolds wasn't there at 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:28.200 times last year when Reye Walsh went into that first 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.200 and second receiver and catching the ball square rather than 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:33.600 on a sweep, how dangerous he became. It's the same 0:13:33.640 --> 0:13:36.440 with Nathan, so I think it'd be Firstly, it's a 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.120 mistake to try to play the exact same style of football. 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:42.160 I think they'll adjust. I think you're seeing more Nathan 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.360 playing that pure playmaker role. Secondly, the other guy who's 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.160 going to be vital is Jack Cogga. Cogger is going 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:52.520 to be so important to this because you know, like 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:57.080 you know, if when Jack was in that team, he 0:13:57.240 --> 0:14:02.080 was the second deputy. If Nathan he's the sheriff and 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.920 the first deputy is Isaiah. He was the second deputy. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:07.960 Now he slips up into that role. He is so important. 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.760 I thought with Jack anyway, watching the way that Nathan 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.480 was playing when Jack was there, that they couldn't they 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.480 couldn't drop Jack that he I think he has to 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.720 be there for the rest of this season, even more 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:25.080 so now it's just essential if you go and right, oh, well, 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.360 you know what does that mean? From there? Put it 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.560 this way? Is that it for Blaze? Now? I think 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:32.840 Blaze has a spot on the bench. In fact, this week, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:35.640 I don't know if Dylan Edwards is back this week. 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.400 I'd love to see and young Edgar has proved his 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:40.840 Jesus a player of quality. But I'd love to see 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:42.840 Blaze for his own confidence and just to see what 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.440 he does. I'd love to see the spine well, the 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:49.040 creative players this week be seven clear, he six, Cogo 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.840 won Tilly. I'd love to see what he could do there. 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:53.920 I think he's played full back at Parramatta and his 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:56.000 debut in his day he did a really good job, 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:59.120 played really really football there, so people forget like he 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.320 was an outside back he first come into first grade 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:03.200 and he's only developed his body since then. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:08.160 And for mine, Nathan, with Jack Cogger alongside him, Nathan 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:10.800 was able to actually not babysit sets, being able to 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:12.760 go all in knowing the Coggle will come on the 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:15.080 back of it and finish the set. So it takes 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:19.000 a load off a load off Nathan. Now without Isaiah, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:22.280 that Jack Cogger role is just so essential that Jack's 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.360 got to have a big finish to the season and 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.920 even more of a reason why, in my opinion, can't 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.479 put plays back into the sixth. 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:30.480 I'll have a different opinion to you. I they're not 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:32.680 my favorites anymore to win the comp They're not my 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:36.160 favorite I think Isaiaho, like you said, he's so important 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.680 to how they play their football, how they build pressure, 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.640 how they attack the middle third, so then they can 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.600 skim the edges later in the game. So I and look, 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.080 maybe I'm going to get clipped up, but in the 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:49.120 final series by Penrith, they're going to put my face 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.720 on the big screen. You know, you know that, you know, 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:53.720 like when people get on debut videos and they go, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.200 you know, this bloke never believed in me. Maybe coming 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.560 to the final series, they'll clip this up and saying 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:01.000 we can't win the comp and they would put shit 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:03.920 on me. But I just don't think. I don't think 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.200 they're my favorites anymore to win the con. Look, Penri's 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.200 biggest strength has always been like their preparation during the week, 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.400 and it almost it doesn't matter who's there, the people, 0:16:13.480 --> 0:16:15.800 the deputies on the field, they're the ones that control 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:18.800 it and execute it. Like there's a game two weekends 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:22.520 ago and I think I was doing the commentary for it. 0:16:22.560 --> 0:16:25.280 They played out at Wogga or out at Mudgie against 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.040 Camber Raiders, yep, and they had a And this is 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:30.520 what I mean by their strengths, always their preparation during 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:34.040 the week and what they can, their vision, what they see. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:36.960 They saw in Canberra that when they set a scrum 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.600 on the fast scrum line, that their blind side winger 0:16:39.600 --> 0:16:41.720 would set on the open side I think was Jed Stewart, 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.880 he'd come to the aid defender on the open side. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.920 So they come up with a play where Nathan would 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.440 drop a drop a middle straight into Jed Stewart who 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.440 was the left side winger. He's at Marka and then 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.240 they would instantly hit the short side with like a 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:57.640 two or three man overlap. I think ed Jackson, Edgar Jackson, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.040 Edgar britt he scored the the try on that play. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:02.840 If people go little straighten. 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.760 Yeah, yeah, So that that has always been their biggest strength, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:10.119 which is which makes me think, well, they're not a 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.560 ride off, but I still don't think they're the favorites 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:13.320 to win the Common now. 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:17.560 So okay, so just go back to that. So why 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.720 with Isaiah and I being there, what is that relation 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.400 to what you were just talking about. 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.560 I would say their biggest strength is how could they 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:27.880 prepare during the week, right, So even though Yo, he's 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.000 not there, Yeah, Yo, he's not there, but he it's 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.520 still that's why for me they're still premiership threats. I 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:36.359 still I just think, no, Yo out there, for what 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.320 he does with the legs, bee through the middle and 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.679 his vision and pass selection. That's the biggest thing. You 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:42.880 can have these shapes and how you prepared during the week. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:46.640 But Yo, he's got the vision and you know how 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:49.240 to if it to change things on the run. You know, 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:50.960 he's got that. He's got he's almost like an on 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.280 field coach where he goes this isn't working what prepared 0:17:53.359 --> 0:17:55.560 They've changed a little bit. I can change what we're doing. 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:59.000 Well. Listen what Lori Lorie Daily said about him as 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:00.760 far as a skipper in his leadership with State of 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.080 Origin and the great Roy Simmons, who's one of the 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:07.320 greatest panthers of all time. And Roy Royce is not 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.919 a bloke to come out with hyperble or you know, 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:15.040 make big hot takes and makes Royce is just a very, 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:19.080 very such a straight up bloke. He says. We said, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.359 when I Yo finishes, he'll be known as the greatest 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.359 panther of all time. That's a wrap, that's a bigger 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:27.800 that's enormous rap you think about you know Brandy, Nathan 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.199