WEBVTT - Fox Footy Podcast: Can ANY bottom 9 teams play finals? 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.120 The big Footy issues from every angle, dissected by a 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:06.400 team that follows the game closer than anyone else wherever 0:00:06.440 --> 0:00:08.920 you are around the planet. This is your ultimate guide 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.560 to the AFL. This is the Fox Footy Podcast. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.680 We've hit the cold depths of winter and this is 0:00:18.760 --> 0:00:23.160 when the pretenders and contenders are truly separated. It's why 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.480 the all important power rankings are so crucial at this 0:00:26.600 --> 0:00:28.720 time of the year as we attempt to get a 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:33.000 firm grasp of those premiership contention trends. Will go through 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:36.640 the eighteen team rankings, dissect all the big issues in 0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:38.280 fair or fast, and there's a lot of them. This 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:42.240 week the Mailbag, the wisdom of Kevin Sheedy, the expert tips, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:44.519 and a lot more. On the Fox Footy Podcast, Ben 0:00:44.560 --> 0:00:47.519 Waterworth with you as is Crow's Comma belivea Max Law. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:48.400 Hello MAXI. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.559 They won a close game and used up all of 0:00:51.600 --> 0:00:54.040 their terrible, terrible losses in the space of about twelve 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:55.920 minutess what an incredible Friday night. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.720 That was close losses over how many forever about. 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:02.440 Seven dec I think somehow it's quite impressive. 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.040 It was a very good effort from the Crows. We'll 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.280 talk about that very shortly. Also joining us is our 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:09.360 hard working night our a bit flat after the Tigers 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.480 disappointment from Saturday. Jack Jovanovski Hello, JJ. 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.679 Hello, Well, it's good to be back. It wasn't It 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:16.679 wasn't pleasant viewing on. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.720 On Saturday, though first quarter was okay. 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.680 It was promising, too promising. It builds up the expectation. 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:27.200 It's quite some thing to be in the office when 0:01:27.240 --> 0:01:30.480 you get when Jack's doing Richmond team tips and he 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.200 particularly and he confidently. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:34.920 Nail it every week. Who's coming in and out of 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:35.240 the side. 0:01:36.120 --> 0:01:38.000 It's not Richmond enough because of course he's a very 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.080 good objective reporter. Well, but no, his knowledge of some 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:43.680 very fringe Richmond plays he is quite astounding. 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:48.400 Well, I mean i'd like to think that I get 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.880 close sometimes. I mean there are a few. 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.080 Did you not get the exact four ins and outs 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:54.840 a week or two ago? 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:56.480 I did, and I let everyone know about it. 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:57.880 Yeah, it was good. 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.760 But it doesn't sound like you're being because I brought 0:02:00.760 --> 0:02:02.440 it up this time. So it's fine. 0:02:02.920 --> 0:02:06.240 Just apologies for no record last week and this delayed drop. 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:08.280 I was sick last week and then we initially we 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.480 had a sort of replacement team ready to go. Sea 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:12.440 was also ready to host. 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.160 Apparently Zita has quit on us like three times in 0:02:15.200 --> 0:02:18.240 a row. Let's be honest here. Look, I'm not saying 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.720 that he needs to be dropped for team morale reasons, 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.200 just permanently to the reserves, but I think it's a consideration. 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.959 Anyway. We're here and we're recording, and that's the most 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.640 important thing. Just a quick word on the Hall of 0:02:28.680 --> 0:02:33.079 Fame last night, I can't remember in probably since working here, 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.919 just a such an emotional is not the right word, 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.440 but there was just so much content, I suppose in 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:45.520 last night in terms of the wonderful storylines of Aaron 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.240 Phillips and Daisy Pierced getting in in the same class, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:53.560 and of course that beautiful moment where Aaron paid tribute 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:55.760 to her dad, Greg Phillips is also in the Hall 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.079 of Fame as well, So that was that was fantastic, 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:04.320 The absolute sportsman's like speech from Peter Daly, who was 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:07.840 clearly the most in demand person post event, and Gary 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.679 was just Gary, like he just totally own the room, 0:03:10.760 --> 0:03:12.639 like it was his own sportsman night. But we sort 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:14.240 of got the rollercoaster of emotions there. 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.520 It was a fantastic knight, and so the Peter Daly 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:17.799 one was the best one for me because I haven't 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.160 really heard of him. To be honest, I'm not a 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:21.680 sandful expert. I know some of my footy history, but 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:25.160 a lot of it. But that's why ideally you induct 0:03:25.200 --> 0:03:27.400 these older players when they have the chance to be 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.160 at the event, give a speech, tell the stories they've 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:33.480 been telling their grandkids and everyone else for fifty years, 0:03:33.880 --> 0:03:35.960 but they've reversed them perfectly and they can do all 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.880 these incredible lines. Jerry did a fantastic job interviewing them. 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:40.920 He always does and gets the best out of them. 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.320 It's a fantastic night and you can understand why so 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.640 many of the people who are involved always say it's 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.280 the best night on the footy calendar, because it would 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.440 be so much fun to be around that vibe. 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:52.640 Nick Revolt and Luke Coodge also inducted as well. Revolt well, 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:54.320 it was of eligible a couple of years ago, but 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:57.360 was in person, yes this time. And of course Luke 0:03:57.360 --> 0:03:59.720 Codge the fresh guy into the Hall of Fame. But 0:03:59.800 --> 0:04:02.800 let's go max into the power rankings, where we've got 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:07.160 Collingwood and Geelong at the top and then we've got 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.960 who's Adelaide over Brisbane, Brisbane over at Brisbane over Adelaide 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:14.920 despite the result on the weekend, but so did we 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:19.080 learn do we learn much about either team in from 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:19.680 that result? 0:04:19.920 --> 0:04:22.520 So I thought what Matthew Nick said after that game 0:04:22.640 --> 0:04:25.839 was absolutely perfect, both in his suit of your narrative 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.839 birth perfectly, but I think it was also an incredibly 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:31.200 honest admission that we were lucky because we deserve some luck, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:34.159 we will do some luck, and therefore we can't go 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.360 out of this night saying oh yeah, we're totally fine. 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.080 We're a contender now. Like the simplified narrative is okay, 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:43.039 they beat the Braining Premiere is great, win Adelaide's finally 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.560 for real, But you know there was some fortune in it. Yes, 0:04:45.560 --> 0:04:47.239 they kicked in accurately at the start of the game, 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:49.640 and yes they had a role in Brisbane not kicking 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.200 a goal on the fourth quarter, But clearly Brisbane had 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:55.400 their chances and could have probably should have won. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.040 And I think Chris Fagan, as respectfully as he possibly 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.039 could suggest said postgame, we lost that game. 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.960 Yeah, I think you said we should have won. Yeah, So, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.080 which I think is totally fair. So if anything, I 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:08.080 came out of that game slightly more confident in Brisbane, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.560 who I was worried about because they hadn't had that 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.800 many great games and the Essendon game at home the 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.080 week before was less than impressive. But no, they showed 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:17.800 a lot on the road and tricky conditions against another 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.240 good team. But Adelaide lived up to the standard at 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:22.279 least of that game, and it was a quality watch, 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:24.159 which is what we wanted and not what we got. 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:26.200 Sometimes over the last couple of weeks. 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.560 Yea, if the Crows win, are sorry. If the Lions win. 0:05:29.640 --> 0:05:32.920 The disposal camp by seventy two, jack clearances by nearly twenty, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:36.719 contestable by nearly thirteen by thirteen, inside fifties by thirteen, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.599 and I think uncontested marks by eighteen, which we know 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.919 is their go to style. It's say Brisbane wins that, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.279 maybe not nine times out of ten, but ten times 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.400 out of ten. So there's a lot of learnings for 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:48.440 the Lions to come away with. 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:50.800 I think there's there's a lot of good in that. 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.760 But then also Max, I would ask you, are you 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:58.479 concerned about the inability to capitalize on that dominance because 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.520 we've seen a few times this year now and you know, 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.120 Kingy's and these kinds of people will question the Danaher 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:10.760 absence and Ty Gallup came into the time, so you're 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.320 getting a few different a few different looks at different 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.280 sort of forward mixes. He concerned at all about their 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.480 inability to actually capitalize. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.320 Yeah, yeah, that's actual thing I think looking I think 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.320 it was on first crack they showed that last year 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:25.239 they were fifth for forward efficiency in terms of turning 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.080 inside fifty into goals, twelve or thirteenth this year. So 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:32.200 that's a genuine drop off, and logically Danaher's absence as 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:34.440 one of the better key forwards in the comp is 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.000 going to play a role in that. You know, they're 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.239 nine and three with a draw in a good position. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:42.520 They have got a hard run home, so some tough 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.000 games and if they drop those, they could be in 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:46.200 trouble of dropping in risk of dropping out of the 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.800 top four. But I think that that's a flow that 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.360 is fixable because you can just have sometimes a very 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.920 efficient day and w and that can win you a final. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.320 So it's not the most devastating one, but it's a 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.839 concern in the same way that I've been concerned about 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.200 the lines for a little while. The percentage is still 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:03.320 not the worst in the top eight anymore because a 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.560 few teams have had some troubles, but it's certainly the 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:07.360 worst amongst the top five. Although I look at the 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.320 top four in the ladder now Collingwood, Brisbane, Adelaide, Gelong 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.040 that for the first time sounds like the right top 0:07:13.080 --> 0:07:15.880 four right. That feels like the four best teams are 0:07:15.880 --> 0:07:16.440 in there right now. 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.880 So two teams who are not in there are Hawthorne 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:23.240 and the Bulldogs who played as we record six six 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.960 days ago, long time ago. Was this a flinch reaction though, 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.720 Maxie Hawthorne went from seventh to fifth and the Dog 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:29.960 went from third to sixth. 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.600 No, So, as I've talked about the big Bulldogs believe, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.760 I'm the world's biggest Bulldogs believer the BBB. 0:07:37.200 --> 0:07:39.720 Yes, it's be cute. 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.080 They have done quite a lot right this season, but 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.720 not beating good teams is a problem. Being one and 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.120 six against the top nine it means something. It doesn't 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.000 mean nothing, even if they've been competitive in every one 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:54.600 of those games, so you have to take that into account. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.400 It's gonna hurt them on the ladder, like there are 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.760 three games out of the top four. Now they can 0:08:00.880 --> 0:08:03.200 make that up over their last eleven games, but it 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.000 will be tricky, so that is a problem. They're going 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.320 to end up having the same season of elimination final 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:11.000 deciding the year and either they lose that or they 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.720 go all the way to the Grand Final based. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.200 On history the Sorry Jack they play and kild Her 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.680 on Thursday night the Bulldogs. You're at the game for 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:20.400 Hawthorne Dogs as well. Did you come away from that 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.520 more glass half empty about the bulldogs prospects for this year? 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.160 I don't think so. I think it said more about 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.960 Hawthorne and their response, like they really upped their intensity 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.720 and pressure from the week before. But on the Bulldogs, 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.679 I think it's interesting because we hear about Bevo and 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:39.800 how he's quoted as a once in a lifetime coach, 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.640 and I think it's interesting with Sam Darcy to come 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:50.240 back this weekend is when or will he ever truly 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:53.880 consider moving Aaron Norton back to defense, because if there 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:58.280 are issues in key defense and someone like Norton, who 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.600 has great hands, tried. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.439 Out key defender is a junior come right. 0:09:02.400 --> 0:09:05.240 Through Sam Darcy's back He's going to be the focal 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:09.280 point of regardless of whether Norton's fort or not. So yeah, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.720 and again King's being honest. This is like the big 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:16.320 magnet move which everyone is sort of wonders about, but 0:09:16.360 --> 0:09:16.960 we never see it. 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:18.800 We talked about it for years. Basically, I feel like 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:21.200 when they've had their issues last year, they fixed it 0:09:21.240 --> 0:09:23.679 by moving Rory Lob back, and Lob has had an 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.520 okay year, but not the year that he had in 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:27.440 the second half of last season, so that's their problem. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:29.920 And he's had to move Lob foward during games in 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.360 the second half to just to get some scoring impact 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:35.920 because we're still not getting it from Norton, and I 0:09:35.920 --> 0:09:40.400 think Norton being a non factor last Days and Night 0:09:40.520 --> 0:09:43.319 was a big part of why they lost. So it's 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:44.319 just something I wonder about. 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:46.880 I think it's their scoring has not been a problem 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.440 this year. Is the thing the defense has, So that's 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:50.720 the main thing they need to fix. If you want 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.959 to sacrifice a little bit of scoring force and defense, 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.319 I think that would make some sense. He does feel 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:57.440 I'm not gonna say he's being stubborn about it, but 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.800 Luke Beverytt has his intricacies. He has his ways, such 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:02.480 as playing Ride and Gardener on the weekend. I know 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.520 he has an incredible VFL form, but it felt like 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.320 a very oh that's the bevau thing to do. And 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:09.000 then Ryan Gardner has, you know, a down night, let's say. 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:11.120 So those are the sort of things that you have 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.560 to deal with. He's trying to find a solution. 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:13.000 Clearly. 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:15.320 With Darcy in there, maybe it gives him more leverage, 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:19.840 more options. But if they don't do something, they're fighting 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:21.280 for one of those spots in the bottom half of 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:21.559 the eight. 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.440 Again, that was their lowest score of the year as well. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.600 It was their first properly bad game for the year, 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:27.720 so we can't panic. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.719 They weren't getting anywhere near as low score of that 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:31.720 I reckon for the rest of the. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:32.760 Year, certainly not at Marvel. 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:36.600 So the Hawks response was strong and we were expecting, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:40.600 and the Port Adelaide response was strong against the Giants. 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:42.520 Yeah, it felt like a completely different team after the buy, 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:43.000 didn't they? 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:47.559 So the Giants are now there? Are they still in 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:48.800 your power? They just eighth? 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.160 Then they're still ninth. They're ninth because who else am 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.439 I going to put above them? It's not like there's 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.960 anyone really that convincing in the bottom nine. There's more. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:57.400 I think we've said a couple of times in his 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.719 podcast this year there's a chasm between the top eight 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.320 nine and the rest this year. But Jack, what's up 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.640 with the Giants in particular, because they were the most 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:11.920 common Premiership tip amongst I think it was thirty five 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:16.800 Fox Footy pundits pre season and they are at the 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.920 moment in some doubt you'd think to play finals. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.880 Yes, I was one of them to tip the Giants 0:11:21.880 --> 0:11:25.640 of the flag. I guess since round six you've seen 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.120 a drop off in a few key areas and have 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:30.720 had some key injuries. I think Brenton Daniel's missing a 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:34.480 lot of footy has been He's not great, obviously, Jake 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:37.120 Stringer has hasn't had anywhere near the kind of start 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:40.240 to his Jedibirst ten years he would have liked. Josh 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:43.760 Kelly's been injured, Finn Callahan, so there are clearly some absences. 0:11:43.800 --> 0:11:46.760 But after round six you see massive drop offs in 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:51.440 like their ability to score off intercept from clearance and 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.800 even converting their chances once they go forward. So it's 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.360 a lot of the midfield has been a worry and 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.120 of course like you have a few names missing there, 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:02.560 but you just worry about their ability to actually score 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.439 from clearances. Generate clearances be first at a footy. So 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:10.520 they've been really poor in the last six rounds especially. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:13.160 And if it was bad last year though, like they 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.480 were bad from clearances last year and they overcame it 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.080 and should have beaten the two eventual Grand finals in 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:22.200 those finals. So you just imagine how worried we would 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.720 be about them, even more so if they didn't have 0:12:24.760 --> 0:12:26.000 Sam Taylor and Jack Buckley. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.240 The interesting thing about them, I think is Adam Kingsley 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.840 really brought that Richmond style of play from his time 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.160 as an assistant there, and you see the same sort 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.880 of surge mentally, which is a lot of post clearance, 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:39.640 a lot of post clearance, first of the ball pressure 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.720 after the clearance. Richmond went never a really big senate 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.240 clearance or contested ball team, but they were always like 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.200 a post clearance team and territory after the clearance. 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.120 And the care attack is what makes the Giants look 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:53.640 so dangerous when they get on top of someone. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.480 But they haven't looked dangerous in the last six weeks, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:57.439 especially trying to move the ball from the back. 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:01.000 Half from a just under the job. To the power rankings, 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:05.160 Melbourne's ahead of Carlton now and I think after I 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.120 was at the game on Monday, great spectacle as always, 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.800 and the D's were brave and Collingwood. I didn't come 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.439 away from that game thinking Collingwood had gone down the 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.920 Premiership pecking order or anything like that. It was actually 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:21.959 almost brilliant that they found another way to win, which 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:25.480 was what Craig mccraye's stress afterwards as well, is that 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:30.320 that was as gutsy as it as it gets. But 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:34.160 Melbourne was super impressive. Arguably should have won the game, 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:35.320 Probably should have won the game. 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.680 Actually, yeah, it's at at very least a coin flip. Yeah, 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.240 that was Melbourne playing up to the standard of Collingwood, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.240 I would say, and that's why I've put them in. 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:44.840 I don't think Melbourn's going to make the eight. I 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:46.959 think their draws too hard and they've already lost. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.160 Eight games, so they to go through their draw because 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:53.079 because that at the moment they are playing better than 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.200 a lot of the teams competing for that seventh Feith spot. 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:58.520 They've won five of their last eight and they should 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.320 have won two of them. They probably you could say 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.800 they should have been in Collingwood, you know, close games, 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.240 thesecents happened point game, and then the Saint Kilda game 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:09.120 as well if they hadn't kicked seven twenty one they 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.080 definitely could have and should have won that, and then 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.000 the Hawthorne game, which is their biggest loss of this patch. 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:15.920 They are in it completely at three quarter time. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:17.000 It's the fourth quarter blowout. 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.800 So they've had a really good eight weeks, are really 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:22.640 like a top eight quality eight weeks. The zip and 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.160 five start and some close losses and bad kicking is 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.160 going to cost them a spot in the finals. I 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:28.040 don't know if you're pulling up. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.640 I've got to here Port Adelaide. They play in Adelaide 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:31.800 this weekend, one of the. 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:34.200 Two really tough games to tip this week too one. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:37.800 Then a couple of tough ones Gold Coast in Gold 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:42.320 Coast and then Melbourne in Adelaide. So they're on the 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:45.800 road for three consecutive games playing the other weeks. 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.280 Yes, no, so that's the problem. They've got a lot 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:50.760 of top eight teams left, so they're going to have 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:52.840 to take some scalps. And they've played well enough to 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.920 take those gaps if they played like they did against colling. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:56.520 With you say they were playing Melbourne, Yeah, no, No, they're 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:57.840 playing the Adelaide Crows. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.360 In Adelaide, Adelaide, That's what I mean. In the City 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:00.320 of Churches Ring the else. 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:00.800 Yes. 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.680 So look, yeah, if they're good enough to take their chances, 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.760 they'll get there. But I think realistically the only team 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:07.400 that can make it from the bottom ten is Carlton, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.680 right because I think Carlton, while impressive for only one 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.840 quarter against Essendon, was pretty impressive in that one quarter. 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:16.560 And they've also got the drawer to do it. I 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:18.680 think they've only got two games left against the top nine. 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:21.400 So yeah, So their next five weeks, so they've got 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:24.960 West Coast in Perth this weekend, then North Melbourne at 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:29.240 BMCG then they fly to Port Adelaide at the Fly 0:15:29.360 --> 0:15:32.000 to Adelaide to take on the Power. Then those two 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.840 top two. There's top games against Collingwood and the Brisbane, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:37.760 the Brisbane games at Marvel Stadium. 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:40.000 And then they've got some more winnable ones after. 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.320 That Melbourn, Hawthorne, Fremantle, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, Essendon. 0:15:43.720 --> 0:15:47.200 There are enough games that Carlton at their best can win. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:50.120 You know, they're maxing out at like thirteen wins, so 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:52.440 you're sneaking in. But if the Giants are going to 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:53.840 keep falling over, if the board dogs are going to 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.720 keep stuffing up, if the Dockers do what they did 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.920 last year, there's some spots available. That's the only realistic 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.360 scenario I can see. So many teams, they've already got 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:03.840 so many losses. You can basically only a four to 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.520 ten losses and there are most teams in that bottom 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.440 ten are already on eight losses. Yeah, so you need 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.640 to have a miracle run. It says why those last 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:13.680 few years we've gotten used to it almost but they're 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.200 the exceptions against the rule, not the rule. 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.720 And two brave performances from Essen in the last couple 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:20.200 of weeks and you've got them in the bottom four. 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.760 Well, Port Adelaid did win, so I did to move 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.080 them up. You know, it's always tough this ranking businesses. 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.880 Their midfield has had some really good periods in both 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.280 of those games against Brisbane and Carlton the second and 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:32.320 third quarters they've got on top of those games. So 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.040 it's a year of not contending. We know that's sort 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:37.600 of the point of this year. It's why they did 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:40.080 nothing the Bombers in the trade period and the off season, 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.800 apart from drafting Isaac CaCO. But they're showing signs. Defensively, 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.600 they've been better, not great, but better. And the midfield 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.400 has showed some signs too, even though Zach Merrit's been 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.560 moved all over the ground, like playing forward I think 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.600 for the entire fourth quarter on Sunday nights. So they're 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.160 doing things, they're trying things. There's reasons to be optimistic 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:57.480 about them, even if they're not going to do a 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.280 lot of this year though. Have you said that they've 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.080 won as many games the Bulldogs, who I love? 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.320 So you do love the Bulldogs? That is very true. 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:06.080 Hey Jack, did you enjoy helping cover the West Coast v. 0:17:06.200 --> 0:17:07.159 North Melbourne Sunday? 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.520 It was a great watch, really good watch. I actually 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:13.600 felt because I really like Andrew mcqualter, and I felt 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.080 really bad for him because, like with the amount of 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.840 territory dominance I had, it was just like a really 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.159 hard watch as a neutual, let alone a fan of 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.399 the Eagles. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:25.320 Classic bottom three game, wasn't it? 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.080 It was like they realized they weren't playing at an AFL ground, 0:17:28.119 --> 0:17:29.600 so they didn't need to play an AFL standard. 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:33.120 Will hold your fire on the south West, will save 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:35.840 it or save your bullets for this segment and. 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.560 Now on the Fox Foody podcast, another strong edition of 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:41.640 Australia's favorite segment, Fair or Fast. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.600 Big edition of Fair or Fast Strong Melbourne theme off 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:50.560 the top, oh bias Max Max Gorn biting back at 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.200 Stephen May was a tipping point for him after publicly 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.639 carrying his club for many years. 0:17:56.800 --> 0:18:00.639 Fair or Fast tipping point for Max Horn. Yes, No, 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.280