WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 15 December 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:06.720 From the skying setter. This is Paul Murray live like 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:08.440 an evening, happy Sunday. We're ever be happy to be 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:12.280 This is our look back at one think of a year. 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.960 But i't like most of the lookbacks, which let's be honest. 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.880 This team won the footy and Larry him the won 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:22.479 the gold and Trump won and that's it. We're going 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.119 to go deep die, you know, that's the way that 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.079 we like to do it on this show. And think 0:00:26.120 --> 0:00:28.320 of this more so as a rather than you and review, 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.280 more like a performance review. And I'm playing the role 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:35.960 of the hr manager. That's shaky for everyone. Now let 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.560 us break this down into some Australian politics, some general news, 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.480 and obviously everything that happened in the United States. Now, 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.560 about this time last year, the Prime Minister was down 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:47.640 in the polls, down in his luck, and it looked 0:00:47.640 --> 0:00:50.200 like he wasn't going to be able to change the subject. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:53.360 In fact, the media was so down on him. At 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.200 the end of twenty twenty three, one full year ago, 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.440 they were writing headlines like this, the promises to Australia 0:00:59.480 --> 0:01:03.240 that Anthony how Albanesi has broken his year in review. 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.479 Anthony Alberanesi facing calls to resign as the Prime Minister 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:11.040 after the voice had failed, and Newspoll two months ago 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.200 said that Anthony Aberesi was a drag on Labour's recovery. Then, 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:18.279 of course summer happens, and that gives the Prime Minister 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:21.360 great hope and pep in his step that somehow everything 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:27.720 will be different this year. According to the Guardian newspaper, 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.520 they said that last year had brought the Prime Minister 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:34.039 back to worth, but twoy twenty four, what's it going 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.920 to hold for Dutton or Alberanzi. Now, Interestingly, the person 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:41.080 who had actually written that thesis about whether it was 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:42.680 going to be a good year for Albow and a 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.600 bad year for Dutton was Murferu, otherwise known as the 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:49.960 chief political correspondent for The Guardian, somebody who was, of 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:53.000 course such an independent journalist that she could not be 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.960 accused of picking a side until she picked aside. She 0:01:57.040 --> 0:02:01.600 literally left the Guardian to work for Anthony alban Easy. 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.320 But back to what was going on at the start 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:08.080 of this year, where the Prime Minister was telling anyone 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.760 who listened that it's time for a reset. We're going 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:14.200 to get our game back. The Prime minister two point 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:18.600 zero can a reboot of Albanese's office insure victory. People 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.560 were rather excited, Well they weren't. They just were people 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.480 in the press that have been desperate to breathe life 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:27.840 into this prime ministership year after year after year, and 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:33.600 it's only two to three years old. This was also 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.359 because cost of living has been the python that has 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.519 hurt this prime minister, exposed this government and has pushed 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.639 voters further away from labor than even at the last 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:46.440 election when they had their lowest primary in more than 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:50.720 one hundred years. The polling going into this great reset 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:54.239 for twenty twenty four, oh so long ago and they're 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:57.200 going to need on another one soon was that more 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.799 than eighty percent of Australians believed that the government has 0:03:00.000 --> 0:03:04.160 failed to tackle cost of living crisis. That was at 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:08.720 the start of this year. So a special game changer 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:11.440 was brought in the Prime Minister who was going to 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:16.320 reset his fortunes this year by offering two little too 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.960 late tax cuts. This hasn't changed. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.080 So it's very clear when it comes to the stage 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:26.320 three tax cuts, our position hasn't changed. 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.080 We haven't changed our position on that. Well, we haven't 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:33.400 changed our position on that mark, we haven't changed our 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:39.080 position on the stage three tax cuts at all. 0:03:39.240 --> 0:03:40.720 Oh did I say that they were going to do 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.000 a tax cut change? No, no, No, that was them 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:46.960 promising they were definitely not going to do one. But then, 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.200 of course, as you know, they did one. The Prime 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:51.880 Minister goes to the ultimate home game for labor politicians, 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:54.960 the National Press Club. We're basically the same people who 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.200 are lickys Boots at the Parliament lickys Boots, but this 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.960 time at theom Mother Hill a. 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.520 I announce that from the first of July this year, 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:10.920 our government will deliberate tax cut for every single Australian taxpayer, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:17.920 all thirteen point six million taxpayers, not just some Everyone 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:21.440 who works and who pays tax will benefit. 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:25.040 But with Poles saying that eighty percent of people did 0:04:25.120 --> 0:04:27.359 not believe that the government had actually done anything to 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.400 make their financial life better, the polls in a place 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:32.360 where the Prime Minister needed to take a big swing 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.320 like this. It was his mates in the media who 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:36.680 were ready to pack a whack of this bloke back 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:40.320 to political life, and they were using the biggest possible 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:44.280 numbers to make it seem like Christmas had come twice 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.400 in just a few weeks. 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:50.640 Eleven point five million will be better off, two million 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.800 worse off for the government, more than doubling tax cuts 0:04:53.800 --> 0:04:57.040 for most bossie workers by harving them for the country's 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:00.440 highest earners the biggest winners. Everyone earning less than one 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.320 hundred and fifty k, he'll be better off. 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:05.800 The biggest is to keep the thirty seven percent tax bracket, 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.680 but raise the threshold for it from one hundred and 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:12.479 twenty to one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars. Modeling 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:16.120 by A and You economists Ben Phillips estimates that more 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.680 than six million households will be better off from the changes, 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.160 with just over a million worse off. 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.360 I know it's a serious subject, but do you even 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:29.120 have to sound that board with it? Anyway? The numbers 0:05:29.120 --> 0:05:32.760 were huge. The headline set things like most taxpayers will 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:36.400 get eight hundred and four dollars back when it comes 0:05:36.480 --> 0:05:38.960 to the tax cuts. But guess what this little TV 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.400 show was able to work out straight away? Too little, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:45.960 too late, four fifths bugger all. In fact, the reality 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:47.600 of the breakdown, as we showed you over and over 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.760 and over again, is that the great Reset, which was 0:05:49.800 --> 0:05:54.960 going to re build the prime minister wasn't really much 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:56.719 at all. In fact, if you earned about forty five 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.080 thousand dollars, you were going to get the best part 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.960 of what fourteen dollars a week. You see, that's how 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:05.040 people actually pay their tax. They pay it like they 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.920 earn their money. They do it week by week, or 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.919 fortnightly by fortnightly or monthly bi monthly. The idea that 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:12.480 you only have to pay tax once a year and 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:16.080 therefore the reduction is eight hundred dollars. It was all garbage, 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.760 and we knew it at the time. The camera bubble 0:06:20.040 --> 0:06:22.640 tried to pretend nothing to see here in their Jedi 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:26.480 mind trick way of trying to start twenty twenty four 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.599 because twenty twenty three had ended so poorly, But we 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:33.359 knew that people weren't going to connect, and slowly but 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:37.200 surely the poll started to prove that theory. Right. This 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.560 was from the Turmbul Times. This was after the tax 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:44.040 cuts had been announced, had been rammed down everyone's throats politically, 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.520 where fifty three percent of people had hardly heard anything 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.400 or nothing at all about the tax cuts even when 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:55.880 you broke it down female voters. And isn't it the 0:06:56.040 --> 0:06:58.440 Liberal party that has the problem with women. Well, in fact, 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:04.440 the best part there of sixty three percent of them, 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.839 sixty three percent of them had not heard of what 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.040 had happened here. And when you broke it down by 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:13.080 men and women, more than sixty percent, if my mats 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:16.360 are right, yeah, more than sixty percent of women had 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:19.920 not heard anything or much at all about the tax cards. 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.840 So the Prime minister's first big swing at a big 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.240 reset to put himself back on top was a miss. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.000 But he had a new excuse to say everything's okay, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.640 I'm going to win the next election, and it was 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:37.960 that he has never lost a news poll. In fact, 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:44.640 this was said how many times polls whole poles poll. Well, 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.000 of course, polls when it comes to Australian politics, it 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:50.400 is the gold standard of whether we keep a leader 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.040 or not. Now, polls aren't elections, but as we know, 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.680 when it came to Tony Abbott or Malcolm Turnbull or 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:59.240 Julie Gillard, news poll kind of mattered. So even though 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:01.600 there were other poles that were showing that the Labor 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.920 Party's vote was starting to go into the toot, including 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.800 thirty percent primary vote, according to the Essential poll, there 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:12.520 was thirty four percent according to the Resolve Political Monitor. 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.520 According to the Financial Review, the primary vote was at 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.720 thirty one percent. He said, don't worry because all of 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:21.960 those don't matter. There's only one pole that matters, and 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:23.600 it is Newspole. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.320 We haven't lost to go back to Nemesis, we haven't 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.800 lost a news poll since I've been Prime minister. 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:35.959 But guess what also happened in twenty twenty four and 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.079 the Abenz and the Labor Party lost their first news poll. 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.760 But of course didn't he say. One of the reasons 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:44.240 why he was awesome is because he didn't lose a 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.600 news poll. So how does each way Albo explain losing 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.560 a news poll? 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.440 And when people focus in the election on what the 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:56.319 choices are, I'm very confident that they'll continue to support 0:08:56.640 --> 0:09:00.640 the federal Labor government that understand the pressures say people 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:03.679 are under, and that is doing something to assist them. 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.200 Okay, so that was then, But what about the end 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.560 of the year where news poll really matters. Well, as 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:13.840 you can see, what was a clear run for the 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.160 Labor Party on top is now becoming a clear lead 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:21.960 for the coalition. And even then, when the preferred prime 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.640 minister in February, was the Prime Minister on thirty nine 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.040 percent unelectable. Dutton was on thirty two we end the 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:35.319 year dead level thirty seven thirty seven And when asked 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.160 how would you rate Anthony Aberneici's performance as Prime Minister 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:41.280 in the past few weeks, A staggering fifty one percent 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.080 of Australians at the end of two thousand and twenty 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.760 four think what they did at the end of twenty 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.760 twenty three, and that is more than half say poor 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.839 or very poor. As for Peter Dutton, who, remember the 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:58.600 press gallery believed is absolutely unelectable, how's he ending up 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:02.400 this year? According to Newspot, Peter Dutton surges as the 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:07.679 Coalition maintains a lead over Anthony Albernezi and labor that 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.320 the Prime Minister hits a new personal know while Dutton's 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:13.840 stocks rise. Nothing to see here, of course, Well, ok, 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.400 that's just the book is, that's just the polls. What 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.520 about the book is? Well, according to them. Right now, 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.960 the current odds for the federal election are on sports 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:25.800 Bet that the Libs are going to win the next election, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.360 on lad Brokes that the Libs are going to win 0:10:28.400 --> 0:10:31.600 the next election, on points Bet that the Libs are 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.360 going to win the next election. On tab that the 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:37.720 Libs are going to win the next election, that many 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.280 all in one place at one time, they must know 0:10:41.360 --> 0:10:45.560 something that we don't. And remember those pollsters much better 0:10:45.960 --> 0:10:47.960 at predicting what happened in the United States? Are they 0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.240 going to be better about what is being predicted here? 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.720 The simple thing is that the Prime Minister was in 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.800 a world of trouble at the end of twenty twenty three. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.280 Despite all that effort, all that money, all that spin, 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.960 all that bs, all that project, all that gaslighting, He's 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.920 in an even worse place at the end of twenty 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:11.160 and twenty four. So it's no giant surprise that the 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:16.520 Prime Minister is now going after gambling advertising. Well, eventually, 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:20.720 in one way or another, he would want those results 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:25.920 to never be known, right, I'll mention them for free. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.559 It is the performance review part of the Year in Review, 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.760 where we're reviewing the performance of the greatest Prime Minister 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.040 of all time, Anthony Abernezi. How did he do on 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.680 the cost of living in twenty and twenty four? You know, 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.720 it's not like that's the only thing people talk about, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.040 the number one thing, And don't forget the thing that 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.120 he promised, of course, to do better at than the 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.960 previous government. Remember Labor was going to do lower. Let's 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:51.520 go back to albert at the start of the year 0:11:51.679 --> 0:11:56.040 at the National Press Club. Now, remember he said, over 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:57.880 and over and over again, what was that one thing 0:11:57.920 --> 0:11:59.920 that was the total focus of his government. 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.280 This is a part of easing the cost of living 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:08.480 for Australians. We've done that whilst we provide cost of 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:12.079 living relief for people. At the same time, we're looking 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.560 after people where we can on cost of living pressures. 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:19.800 Consistently in the Parliament we have spoken about cost of 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.200 living pressures that people are feeling. 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:25.439 But the tax thing didn't really work. So the next 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:27.720 rabbit to be pulled out of the hat was just 0:12:27.840 --> 0:12:30.840 as dead as the other ones that they've been pulling out. 0:12:31.559 --> 0:12:35.960 At the Federal budget, the Prime Minister, his Finance Minister 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.520 and the Treasurer they thought they had finally worked something out. 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:42.640 It's if Australians are winging about their power prices, let's 0:12:42.679 --> 0:12:45.200 pretend their power prices are coming down. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.559 Speak of this government and this budget delivers for every 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:55.560 Australian a tax cut for every taxpayer, wages growing in 0:12:55.600 --> 0:13:00.240 every industry, a better deal for every working parent, fair 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.920 ago at every checkout, new help with energy bills for 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.600 every household and for small business. 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:09.120 Okay, so while he's patting himself on the back, we 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:13.480 did the numbers. Seventy five dollars a quarter equals three 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.640 hundred dollars a year, but most people sometimes get their 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:21.280 bills monthly. What this works out is twenty five dollars 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:25.600 a month, seventy five dollars a quarter. That's it now. 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.000 Of course, if you're somebody who's been living in the 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.560 real world, not like a labor MP or somebody who's 0:13:30.559 --> 0:13:33.680 writing favorably about the Labor Party in the media, you 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:35.480 may will have noticed that your bills have gone up 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.360 a little more than that since they came to power. 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.080 And that's the message that the Australian people got, that 0:13:43.120 --> 0:13:46.520 they should expect a fundamental recalibration of their electricity bills. 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.440 And what we know now is they're paying one thousand 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:51.439 dollars more a year on average. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:55.559 Power, and is twenty five dollars a month what they 0:13:55.640 --> 0:14:01.679 promised over and over and over and over over and over. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:04.800 And two hundred and seventy five dollars two hundred and 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:07.760 seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy five dollars, two 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.560 hundred and seventy five dollars, two hundred and seventy five, 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:13.679 two hundred and seventy five, two hundred and seventy five, 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.880 two hundred and seventy five, two hundred and seventy five, 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:19.880 two hundred and seventy five dollars. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:25.560 No, because according to the Treasurer, that promise doesn't matter anymore. 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.680 The number you're referring to was a forecast in twenty 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.280 one about an outcome in twenty five. We're providing energy 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:34.960 bill relief in the here and now. We did in 0:14:35.000 --> 0:14:37.320 the last budget, we are again in the next budget. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:40.680 But there'll be more relief for more people in this budget. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:45.520 Hello, you know we watch you when you talk, right. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.160 I mean, I'm not just talking about me and the show. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.680 I'm talking about the people watching this show. Who saw 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.720 you promise it? How many times? Oh? No, but it 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:57.320 doesn't matter anymore. Imagine if Tony Abbott had taken that 0:14:57.360 --> 0:14:59.800 position when it came to stopping the boats. Oh yeah, 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:03.680 but the modeling, he'd be out on his ear. And 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:05.840 there's a very good chance that the labor Party may 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.120 will be heading in the same direction. So at the 0:15:08.160 --> 0:15:11.560 end of two thousand and twenty three, eighty percent of 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.280 people had said that the government really hadn't helped them 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.360 when it came to cost of living. Too little. Tax 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.720 cuts didn't really help because they were too little, too late, 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:22.680 twenty five dollars a month when it comes to a 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:24.560 power bill despite the fact that they've gone up to 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.000 one thousand dollars and you promise me to seventy five. 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.720 That didn't work either. So at the end of the year, 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:32.600 how do people feel about the government's achievements when it 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:36.200 comes to cost of living? Seventy three percent of people 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.760 can't name a single thing that the government has done 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:42.240 to make their life better off. Oh and if you 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:45.640 think this is just heavily weighted in one particular area, 0:15:46.240 --> 0:15:50.280 even people who voted for the Labor Party at the 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.240 last election, in fact, sixty four percent of them can't 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.680 name a single thing the government has done to make 0:15:56.720 --> 0:16:02.280 them better off financially. On top of that, the reality 0:16:02.320 --> 0:16:06.160 is that almost three million people are this close to homelessness. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.240 Yet this Prime Minister wants to pretend nothing to see here. 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.880 I've never lost a newspoll until I've lost a newspoll 0:16:13.400 --> 0:16:18.960 and we've got you back and we so we've got 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:23.920 another idea how to save ourselves, and that was censoring 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:28.920 the Internet. What an idea this was in twenty twenty four. Now, 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.520 as you know, the Prime Minister wanted to seal his 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:35.440 place in Australian history by changing the Constitution to guarantee 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.640 that a powerless sort of version of a parliament would 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.920 give advice to a parliament about indigenous issues, but it 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:46.040 would change something in the constitution, So yay for him, right, Well, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.920 of course Australians went yet don't like the idea, and 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.920 he had a special response as long as other labor 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.600 MPs as to what truly had stopped them claiming their 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:07.040 spot on top of the Mount Kosiosco. Misinformation, misinformation, misinformation. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:07.440 The misinformation? 0:17:07.600 --> 0:17:09.320 Which is there some misinformation? 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.840 Ooh? Misinformation? Do I see a new thing for the 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:16.920 government to waste a lot of time on? Yes, you see. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.400 An awful lot of people get their news in lots 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.119 of different ways. I'm glad that you're watching us on 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.040 Telly right now, but there's a good chance you might 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.359 be watching this as a video somewhere later than now. 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.680 There's lots of people who get their information via social media, 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:30.639 particularly so the sky news dot com do are U 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.000 either website or to the many many millions of people 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:37.080 who interact with us via YouTube. So of course this 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.919 government would like to crack down on that sort of 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.080 information because we point out things like to little too 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.000 late tax cuts twenty five dollars a month when it 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.360 comes to power bills, not to mention all the other 0:17:49.359 --> 0:17:51.720 stuff that I've been talking about tonight. That's not quite 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.600 as good as they'd like to make it out. So 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.160 the announcement was made that it was time to censor 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.400 the Internet, to go after misinformation, to find the big 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:04.359 tech companies if they kept allowing people like you to 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:08.439 post information the government did not believe to be true. 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.280 The point here is that we're talking about a high 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:17.159 threshold of serious harms where misinformation, for example, causes people 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:21.600 to tear down mobile phone towers in regional areas. That 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.480 can mean people can't call triple zero. That is a 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:28.160 serious harm, and that is due to the scale, speed 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.879 of spread and spread of misinformation. That is what we 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.640 are attempting to deal with here, to protect the strains 0:18:34.640 --> 0:18:35.280 from harm. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:39.240 Yeah, well this idea didn't even end up getting the 0:18:39.240 --> 0:18:41.600 support of the people who always vote for them in 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:45.560 the Senate. For example, doormat Dave Pocock. He votes for 0:18:45.720 --> 0:18:48.919 everything this government puts up. What does he say about 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:51.480 this piece of legislation? Will he vote for it? 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:55.120 I've listened to the experts and to people in the set, 0:18:55.560 --> 0:18:59.320 and I'll be opposing the Combating Misinformation Distorpation Bill unless 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:03.000 major changes are made to the legislation because as it stands, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.800 I don't believe it takes the right approach to dealing 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:06.600 with misinformation. 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:13.080 Former Labor MP and now Chief Fatima payment of Fatima 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.400 payment political party? Will you vote for it? 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:20.719 Freedom of speech is a pillar of our democracy and 0:19:20.880 --> 0:19:25.480 this bill threatens that. Of course, misinformation and disinformation are 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.840 a problem, but this bill isn't the answer. The powers 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.600 it grants could lead to over censorship, with the government 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:38.040 deciding what does and doesn't count as the truth. 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:43.160 Did you just make sense? What about somebody who got 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:46.919 elected as somebody kind of liked Jackie Lamby but used 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:48.840 to work for Jackie Lamby, So that's cool, let's make 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.399 her a senator. But then she broke up with Jackie Lamby. 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:52.520 Would she vote for this. 0:19:53.720 --> 0:19:57.120 I understand the intent behind this bill, but it's important 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:00.520 to me that people feel free to express ideas and 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:04.920 opinions without fear of being shutdown, having conversations that challenge 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.639 our views. It's how we grow as community. And again, 0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.560 I'm not supporting this legislation. 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:15.359 What about Jackie Lamby? Would she vote for it? She 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:18.440 votes for most of the government stuff and she used 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.040 to swear words about Elon Musk. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.600 This bill is not going to fix it. 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:24.320 There are other ways to do it. 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:25.679 Yeah, there will be other ways to do it. 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:27.919 This is just this was turning into a mess, but 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:28.960 it is dead in the water. 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.040 Okay, Lydia thoughpe right. Surely, surely she's going to want 0:20:33.040 --> 0:20:36.040 to censor evil people who don't agree with what she 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:37.720 has to say because it's racist. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.880 The Misinformation Bill, for example, I won't be supporting that. 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:46.600 I've been talking to community members and stakeholders Black and 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:50.000 brown people could be demonized as part of that process. Well, 0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:55.400 the devil in the detail in these pieces of legislation 0:20:56.040 --> 0:21:00.280 that I'm digging into and negotiating with the government. Either 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.320 fix it or I won't support it. 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.680 So the Resa didn't work. The tax cuts didn't work. 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:10.120 The let's pay Everyone's power bill but not really didn't work, 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:13.199 and censoring the Internet didn't work. So how did the 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:18.240 other ministers do this year in twenty twenty four. Well, 0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.440 we've just spoken about the incredible successes of the Communications 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:25.840 Minister failing to censor the Internet. Of course, there is 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:30.640 the former Indigenous Affairs Minister in Linda Burney, who failed 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.919 to get the voice up in time. So she of 0:21:34.960 --> 0:21:39.360 course has decided to retire and definitely not be sacked. 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:45.600 After twenty one years as in politics, eight years in 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.359 the Federal Parliament and thirteen years in the New South 0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:54.000 Wales Parliament, it's time for me to parts on the 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:58.840 baton to the next generation. It is time for me 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:00.119 to pass on that. 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:04.479 What about other strong women inside the Labor Party cabinet, 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:09.120 the ones who really put the what did you just announce? 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:12.640 In the what did you just announce? Like Tanya Plipasek. 0:22:12.840 --> 0:22:16.320 Remember she's the one who turned around and used some 0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:21.480 local Aboriginal mysticism to deny a gold mining project that 0:22:21.520 --> 0:22:24.960 both people in the town wanted built and the Labor 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:27.280 Party in New South Wales premier wanted built. 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.160 And I've said, mister cher. I'm disappointed by the decision 0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:35.760 from the Commonwealth Government. The application was made in twenty nineteen, 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:39.359 It's gone through the Independent Planning and Assessment Committee Commission, 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.119 as well as every other government department in New South 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:45.520