WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 18 March

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<v Speaker 1>Lately.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Late Bay, Well, thanks for joining us on the

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<v Speaker 2>Late Debate. I'm James Macpherson with Liz Storer and filling

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<v Speaker 2>in for Caleb Bond Freier leish a lot coming up tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>including a Melbourne council move their meetings.

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<v Speaker 1>Online to avoid ratepayers.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that a little later, plus when we

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<v Speaker 2>look at what's making news tomorrow, Victorian Premier Dicenta Allen

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<v Speaker 2>accused of corruption over the removal of top cops, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Australian notes that our debt nationally is blowing out

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<v Speaker 2>to be the worst in the developed world.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get to all of that shortly, but first.

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<v Speaker 2>The Albanezi government continues its move to create a republic

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<v Speaker 2>by stealth with confirmation today that King Charles will be

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<v Speaker 2>removed from the new five dollar note. It means that

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<v Speaker 2>for the first time since nineteen twenty three, no royal

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<v Speaker 2>will feature on any Australian banknotes. The current five dollar note,

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<v Speaker 2>which depicts the now deceased Queen Elizabeth, will be redesigned

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<v Speaker 2>as a tribute to Indigenous people. The Reserve Bank released

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<v Speaker 2>a statement today saying the imagery on the five dollar

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<v Speaker 2>bank note should recognize the enduring connection that first nations

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<v Speaker 2>people have to country as an emotional and spiritual connection

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<v Speaker 2>as much as a physical one. So most of you

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<v Speaker 2>would be familiar with the current five dollar note, not

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<v Speaker 2>that it buys much these days.

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<v Speaker 1>Will show it to you. Here's the five dollar note.

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<v Speaker 2>There it is, and here's a proposal as to what

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<v Speaker 2>the new five dollar note could look like. Now, this change,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, is at the discretion of the Reserve Bank,

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<v Speaker 2>but it must be noted both the Prime Minister Anthony

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<v Speaker 2>Albanesi and the Treasurer Jim Chalmers have for the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years been hinting very strongly that they would

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<v Speaker 2>like to see a change. Anthony Albanesi was elected to

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<v Speaker 2>government with a mandate to hold a second referendum on

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not we should become a republic. He chose

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<v Speaker 2>not to exercise that after the debacle that was the

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<v Speaker 2>Voice referendum.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't given a mandate though, to sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of unilaterally move us towards a republic minus any vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Roy Morgan Research polled as recently as last October, finding

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of Australians still supported the idea of a

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional monarchy fifty seven percent in fact, which is very

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<v Speaker 2>close to the number who voted.

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<v Speaker 1>Against the Voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yet Anthony Albanesi looks to impose republican objectives, whether we

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<v Speaker 2>like it or not. I would say that until Australians

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<v Speaker 2>vote to become a republic, we of course are a

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<v Speaker 2>constitutional monarchy. We should not only recognize that, but we

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<v Speaker 2>should celebrate it. And it's not about whether or not

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<v Speaker 2>you like King Charles. We've all got our views on

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<v Speaker 2>the individuals who comprise the royal family, but they personify

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<v Speaker 2>a system of government that is kept as safe and

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<v Speaker 2>secure for the better part of two hundred years and

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<v Speaker 2>that's made.

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<v Speaker 1>Us the envy of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>What Anthony Alberanezi is trying to do and we see

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<v Speaker 2>it in so many areas and now with the five

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<v Speaker 2>dollar note, is a republic by incrementalism. Not only is

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<v Speaker 2>it uncalled for, he has no mandate for it, but ironically, Liz,

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<v Speaker 2>it's hardly democratic.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're giving him way too much credit here,

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<v Speaker 3>because we've got to be clear, this is the Reserve

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<v Speaker 3>Bank's decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but there was a lot of press.

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<v Speaker 3>They console the government. The government says yes, we support this.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, geez, no cigar for getting that one right.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course the government did support it, but at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the day, the butt stops with the Reserve

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<v Speaker 3>Bank and this is what they've decided to do. So

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<v Speaker 3>the question is more who's pulling the strings at the

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<v Speaker 3>Reserve Bank that thinks, oh, well, we'd rather have something

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<v Speaker 3>indigenous and about their connection to land and country than

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<v Speaker 3>the monarch. But I've got to say, in recent years

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<v Speaker 3>we have seen in this country and I think we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be seeing it more sooh with young and

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<v Speaker 3>starting to vote more and more coming through the ranks,

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<v Speaker 3>those who have been indoctrinated with this anti colonialist sentiment,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot more than that, the republic people pushing

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<v Speaker 3>for Australia to become a republic have advanced in leaps

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<v Speaker 3>and bounds.

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<v Speaker 4>They are definitely seeing the numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>The numbers you quoted there from the Ray Morgan Pole

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<v Speaker 3>were actually pretty impressive for them, the fact that fifty

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<v Speaker 3>seven which is a considerable majority, but it's not mahusive

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<v Speaker 3>And I think in the coming years we will eventually

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<v Speaker 3>see Australia become a republic.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just where it's going.

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<v Speaker 3>So you do wonder if the Reserve Bank is just

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<v Speaker 3>a bit like let's save ourselves a bit of a headache,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's no use putting King Charles on the note

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<v Speaker 3>if in five or even ten years we've got to

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<v Speaker 3>swap it out again.

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<v Speaker 1>It just so happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got a young and on the desk tonight on

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<v Speaker 2>the Late Debates.

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<v Speaker 1>So Freyer, what's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Is Liz right, Will the younger generation move towards republic?

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<v Speaker 1>Was the five dollar note a good move?

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<v Speaker 5>Controversial opinion here.

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<v Speaker 6>I actually don't think young people will support a republic,

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<v Speaker 6>and we're seeing that in the polling numbers. They're actually

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<v Speaker 6>far more pro monarchy than my parents' generation were at

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<v Speaker 6>the same age. And I think that's partly because so

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<v Speaker 6>many of the institutions and the traditions and the history

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<v Speaker 6>of our country have been stripped away by these anti

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<v Speaker 6>Australian forces that you talked about, and so we want

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<v Speaker 6>to cling on to any last vestige of history and culture.

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<v Speaker 4>That we can.

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<v Speaker 6>And if we've removed the monarchy from Australia, well what

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<v Speaker 6>do we have left?

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<v Speaker 5>Like, what do we have left where a young country?

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<v Speaker 6>The monarchy is foundational to our national identity, our system

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<v Speaker 6>of government, our legal system, everything if we strip that away,

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<v Speaker 6>this is the problem with progressives. What do you replace

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<v Speaker 6>it with? Absolutely nothing? So you lead it ends up

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<v Speaker 6>with this flattening of life. Really, and I think we've

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<v Speaker 6>experienced that in so many areas, the decline of religion,

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<v Speaker 6>broken homes, the decline of meaning, and taking away the

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<v Speaker 6>monarchy is just another one of those stripping away of

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<v Speaker 6>the institutions that give life to our country. So I

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<v Speaker 6>actually don't think young people will opt for a republic.

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<v Speaker 5>I may be proven wrong.

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<v Speaker 6>I hope i'm not, But I just think that this

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<v Speaker 6>is an example of unelected bureaucrats. The elites at the

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<v Speaker 6>RBA in Martin Place sitting there going hmm, how can

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<v Speaker 6>we advance our cultural agenda?

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<v Speaker 5>And that's all this is.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you that progressives don't have an alternative.

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<v Speaker 2>They just destroy everything without providing an alternative. The only

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<v Speaker 2>problem is, I think they do have an alternative to

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<v Speaker 2>a constitutional monarchy. Listen, it's President Kevin Rudd or President

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<v Speaker 2>Malcolm Turnbull.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we're all afraid of.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's the biggest fear with a republic.

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<v Speaker 2>But this moved by the RBA, I mean, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty big deal. It really, As I said, it's the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in over one hundred years that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a monarch on any of our Australian banknotes. For

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<v Speaker 2>them to do this without public consent, when indeed the

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<v Speaker 2>majority of people still support the monarchy, I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a betrayal of the public.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't have the right to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in some ways they could argue that they do

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<v Speaker 3>were because their latest opinion poll on this very thing,

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<v Speaker 3>because King Charles became king and there was a real

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<v Speaker 3>boost in the interest around the monarchy, its relevancy in Australia, etc.

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<v Speaker 4>And so on.

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<v Speaker 3>Our helpful friends ran a poll just last year. Thirty

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<v Speaker 3>four percent of ozsi's wanted the King on the five

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<v Speaker 3>dollar note, forty three percent preferred a famous Australian of

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<v Speaker 3>any description, somebody anyone, but not the King, and the

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<v Speaker 3>rest were undecided. We make a point to that and say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we've just alluded to several polls throughout the course.

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<v Speaker 4>Of this conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>We do use them to get a gauge on popular

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<v Speaker 3>The only.

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<v Speaker 2>Poll that counts is a referendum. When we changed from

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<v Speaker 2>a constitutional monarchy to a republican you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>Going to have a referendum on who ends up on

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<v Speaker 3>the five dollar hoes, Well, exactly, Indeed, it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>worth half a billion dollars got up for debate.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a constitutional monarchy and until the Australian public votes otherwise,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it is. They shouldn't be changing our national emblems.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's certainly not up for debate because we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get one, thanks RBA. Speaking of unelected bureaucrats just doing

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<v Speaker 3>whatever the heck they want, these nameless, phaseless people. If

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<v Speaker 3>you needed further proof that Biden's presidency was perhaps one

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<v Speaker 3>of the greatest cons ever foisted on the American people,

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<v Speaker 3>look no further than a shocking revelation that we found

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<v Speaker 3>out earlier this month thanks to the Heritage Foundation's Oversight project,

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<v Speaker 3>which was able after a very thorough investigation to reveal

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<v Speaker 3>that every single edict from the Biden administration during those

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<v Speaker 3>entire four years had been signed by an autopen not

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<v Speaker 3>by the man himself, with the exception of one, and

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<v Speaker 3>that was his letter announcing he was no longer contesting

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<v Speaker 3>the presidential race in twenty twenty four. Check out this

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<v Speaker 3>tweet of the Heritage Foundation letting everyone know. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>whoever controlled the autopen controlled the presidency. We gathered every

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<v Speaker 3>document we could find with Biden's signature over the course

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<v Speaker 3>of his presidency. All used the same autopen signature, except

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<v Speaker 3>for the announcement that the former president was dropping out

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<v Speaker 3>of the race last year. Here's the autopen signature, and

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<v Speaker 3>they supply a few examples of that, and.

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<v Speaker 4>Then they say, year is the signature from.

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<v Speaker 3>The letter announcing Biden was dropping out of the race,

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<v Speaker 3>which it looks decidedly difference. Now, of course, this revelation

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<v Speaker 3>now begets the question who was running the Biden administration.

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<v Speaker 3>We asked it very often ourselves, as we noted his

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<v Speaker 3>worsening mental decline over the course of those four years,

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<v Speaker 3>but in particular for the new Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 4>They're saying, well, this calls into question.

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<v Speaker 3>All those eleventh hour pardons that he decided to give

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<v Speaker 3>on his.

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<v Speaker 4>Way out the door. But before we get into that, his.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaker of the House Johnson relaying to everyone a conversation

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<v Speaker 3>that he had with the then President Biden, showing just

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<v Speaker 3>how much this auto pen was used and the gravity

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<v Speaker 3>of the situation, Sir.

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<v Speaker 7>Why did you pause? Llen g exports to Europe, like,

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<v Speaker 7>I don't understand. You know, liquefiedinacial gas is in great

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<v Speaker 7>demand by ourn. Why would you do that because you

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<v Speaker 7>understand we just talked about Ukraine. You understand you're fuel

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<v Speaker 7>in Vladimir Putin's war machine because they got to get

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<v Speaker 7>their gas from the PM, you know. And he looks

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<v Speaker 7>at me, stunned with this, and he said I didn't.

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<v Speaker 7>I didn't do that. And I said, miss President, you yes,

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<v Speaker 7>you did. It was an executive order like you know,

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<v Speaker 7>three weeks ago. And he goes, no, I didn't do that,

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<v Speaker 7>and he's arguing with me. I said, miss President, respectfully,

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<v Speaker 7>can I could I go out here and ask your

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<v Speaker 7>secretary to print it out.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll read it together.

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<v Speaker 7>You definitely did that, and he goes, oh, you talk

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<v Speaker 7>about natural gas. Yes, sir, he said, oh no, I

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<v Speaker 7>did you misunderstand? He said, what I did is I

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<v Speaker 7>signed this thing to We're going to conduct a study

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<v Speaker 7>on the effects of energy. I said, no, you're not, sir,

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<v Speaker 7>you paused it. I know I have the terminal, the

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<v Speaker 7>export terminals in my state. I talked to those people

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<v Speaker 7>this morning. This is doing massive damage to our economy,

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<v Speaker 7>national security. It occurred to me, Barry, he was not

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<v Speaker 7>lying to me. He genuinely did not know what he

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<v Speaker 7>had signed. And I walked out of that meeting with

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<v Speaker 7>fear and loathing because I thought, we're in serious trouble.

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<v Speaker 7>Who is running the country like, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 7>put the paper in from him, but he didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>We're in serious trouble. Indeed, if these allegations prove true,

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<v Speaker 3>it means that every executive order, every pardon, every official

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<v Speaker 3>act of the president over the last four years could

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<v Speaker 3>be constitutionally void. But the first lot of issues the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump administration wants to address is those pardons, because of

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<v Speaker 3>course he pardoned a lot of people that the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration would very much like to prosecute. So here's Trump

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<v Speaker 3>addressing that a board Air Force one.

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<v Speaker 8>So I follow up on the line and the autoped

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<v Speaker 8>Are those executive orders those part ins from the former president? Now, Nolan, Well,

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<v Speaker 8>I think, so let's start my decision.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be up to a court.

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<v Speaker 8>But I would say that there nullin one because I'm

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<v Speaker 8>sure Biden didn't have any idea that it would take

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<v Speaker 8>you place. And somebody who was using an autoped to

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<v Speaker 8>sign off and to give pardons to as an example,

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<v Speaker 8>just one example, but the j six Unselect Committee they.

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<v Speaker 1>Gave think of it, they gave parts with an atopen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Biden knew anything about it.

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<v Speaker 3>He took to truth Social to make this post. The

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<v Speaker 3>pardons that sleepy Joe Biden gave to the Unselect Committee

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<v Speaker 3>of political thugs and many others I hereby declared void, vacant,

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<v Speaker 3>and of no further force or effect because of the

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<v Speaker 3>fact they were done by autopen who knew nothing about them,

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<v Speaker 3>and the people that did may have committed a crime. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 3>those on the Unselect Committee who destroyed and deleted all

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<v Speaker 3>evidence obtained during their two year witch hunt of me

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<v Speaker 3>and many other innocent people should fully understand that they

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<v Speaker 3>are subject to investigation.

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<v Speaker 4>At the highest level.

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<v Speaker 3>And indeed, we have Missouri Attorney General and many others

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<v Speaker 3>now writing into the Department of Justice saying, you guys

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<v Speaker 3>have to do a thorough investigation. We have to get

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<v Speaker 3>to the bottom of this because the implications are unspeakably huge.

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<v Speaker 3>To give you an idea of how rare it is

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<v Speaker 3>for a president to sign off on legislation and executive

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<v Speaker 3>order a pardon anything using an auto pen. The first

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<v Speaker 3>president to do so was Barack Obama, who was on

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<v Speaker 3>holiday at the time in Hawaii, and in order to

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<v Speaker 3>do so, he relied on a thirty page dossi era

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<v Speaker 3>of information that George President George Bush's legal team had

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<v Speaker 3>done up for him to validate the fact that, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>he was signing it, but he wasn't signing it in person.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how rare this is. So to find out that

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<v Speaker 3>this was the prevalence of it during those entire four

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<v Speaker 3>years is to say alarming, is a massive understatement.

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<v Speaker 6>It is absolutely shocking, And I think the worst part

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<v Speaker 6>of all of this is the way that the media

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<v Speaker 6>in America tried to cover up this entire sham of

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<v Speaker 6>a presidency. People were asking questions. Trump was asking questions

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<v Speaker 6>throughout those entire four years, and the left wing media

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<v Speaker 6>continually came out. They would post edited interviews with Biden,

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<v Speaker 6>they would do everything they could to cover up and

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<v Speaker 6>avoid scrutiny.

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<v Speaker 5>But this is the thing. Biden, over his.

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<v Speaker 6>Entire four years as president, only held nine full cabinets

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<v Speaker 6>over four years. So there was an intentional strategy by

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<v Speaker 6>his inner circle, his close aids that had been with

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<v Speaker 6>him for years. They were loyal to him. There was

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<v Speaker 6>an intentional strategy from them to avoid any scrutiny or

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<v Speaker 6>anyone else outside of their little bubble from noticing the

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<v Speaker 6>president's decline in mental state. Now, I just think how

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<v Speaker 6>undemocratic is that you elect a president to represent you,

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<v Speaker 6>and in America even more so because you directly elect

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<v Speaker 6>Joe Biden to be the president of the United States,

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<v Speaker 6>only to now find out that for the last four years,

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<v Speaker 6>we actually have no idea who has been running the

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<v Speaker 6>most powerful country in the world. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 6>there's been a strategy to cover up the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>the president is literally senile. So I just think this

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<v Speaker 6>throws the entire country of the United States into complete

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<v Speaker 6>chaos because what happens to yes, the pardons, but also

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<v Speaker 6>every single executive order, Like where does the law stand

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<v Speaker 6>right now? We need some legal scholars on here now

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<v Speaker 6>to interpret this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the question is not whether or not an

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<v Speaker 2>autopen was used, who was using the auto exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>And I get the idea of an autopen.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose a president must sign hundreds and hundreds and

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of documents. It be difficult to do, not to

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<v Speaker 2>mention inefficient, but when you've got problems with mental cognition

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<v Speaker 2>and question marks over that seem to be the height

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<v Speaker 2>of foolishness to use an auto pen when people are

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<v Speaker 2>questioning your mental acuity, because you're going to open yourself

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<v Speaker 2>up to charges such as Trump has made. Now, The

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<v Speaker 2>New York Post wrote a very interesting editorial arguing that

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<v Speaker 2>Trump should leave this alone. They said, Trump's doing so well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's getting the country behind him, and this just reeks

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<v Speaker 2>of Trump trying to settle personal vendettas area. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a bit unwise by the New York Post

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<v Speaker 2>because this isn't a matter of personal vendettas, though I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think Trump is above that. It's a matter of justice,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a matter of accountability, and it's a matter of governance.

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<v Speaker 2>But talk about a can of worms. This isn't just

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<v Speaker 2>about the January sixth committee. This is about every decision

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden ever signed off on. As Trump said in

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<v Speaker 2>that grab that we watched, it will end up in

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<v Speaker 2>court because Trump doesn't have the power himself to make

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<v Speaker 2>all of those pardons null and void. It would have

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the Supreme Court. Whether or not they

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<v Speaker 2>want to take that on and open up that can

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<v Speaker 2>of worms be a very interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 6>But my question for that is, if it did end

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<v Speaker 6>up in the Supreme Court, could Joe Biden actually testify

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<v Speaker 6>that he was aware or is he too senile as

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<v Speaker 6>he was found earlier to even be in testifying about

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<v Speaker 6>his own cognitive ability while he was signing.

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<v Speaker 1>These Wait, did he sign off on the US Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court justices?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh? My god, we don't know anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if they should be there.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know what anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, thankfully some countries do have their head screwed on,

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<v Speaker 6>and one of those seems to be hungry. The Hungarian President,

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<v Speaker 6>Victor Auburn has announced an income tax exemption for mothers

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<v Speaker 6>of two and three children and said he would cap

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<v Speaker 6>interest rates on housing loans at five percent. Now, this

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<v Speaker 6>is they're heading into this national election, but I personally

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<v Speaker 6>think there's a lot of merit in these ideas.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's check it out.

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<v Speaker 9>Actually, we are launching the largest tax cut in Europe

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<v Speaker 9>and indeed the entire Western world. With this, we are

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<v Speaker 9>opening a new chapter in the history of the Hungarian economy.

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<v Speaker 9>We are creating the world's first family centered economy. Mothers

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<v Speaker 9>with one child will be exempt from income tax until

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<v Speaker 9>the age of thirty, while mothers with two or more

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<v Speaker 9>children will never pay income tax again. Even by the

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<v Speaker 9>modest standards, this is a global sensation. With this, we

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<v Speaker 9>are securing the future of Hungarian families for decades to come.

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<v Speaker 6>In early twenty twenty two, the global fertility rate fell

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<v Speaker 6>below replacement rate. That means around the world we are

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<v Speaker 6>not having enough children to replace ourselves. In developed countries,

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<v Speaker 6>it's even worse. Every single developed country has a fertility

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<v Speaker 6>rate below replacement rate except for Israel. Even India is

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<v Speaker 6>now at a sub replacement rate fertility level. Now, the

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<v Speaker 6>problem with this is that when you have a declining

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<v Speaker 6>word population, the age dependency ratio shifts, so more young

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<v Speaker 6>people have to support a whole lot more old people.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of countries like Australia will look to migration

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<v Speaker 6>to fix this. Well, let's just bring in more people

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<v Speaker 6>and we can boost our population that way. But those

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<v Speaker 6>migrants also get old and after one or two generations

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<v Speaker 6>they tend to have the same amount of children as

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<v Speaker 6>the country that they're now in, so sub replacement level

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<v Speaker 6>fertility again. One country that is taking this into their

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<v Speaker 6>own hands is Hungry, and I think this is exactly

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<v Speaker 6>this sort of thing we need to be looking at

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<v Speaker 6>in Australia because the challenge for women, particularly and all

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<v Speaker 6>families in Australia is that one it is extremely expensive

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<v Speaker 6>to have children, but two it's not something that is

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<v Speaker 6>valued by our society. The extent of family policy is

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<v Speaker 6>childcare subsidies, which effectively says to women, pump out a baby,

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<v Speaker 6>ship them off to institutional care and get that to work.

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<v Speaker 6>That is not what a lot of women want. They

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<v Speaker 6>want choice in how they raise their children. So I

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<v Speaker 6>think this is something we need to be looking at.

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<v Speaker 6>What do you guys think.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Prime Minister of Hungary said, we want to

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<v Speaker 2>leave our country to our children, not to foreigners. And

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<v Speaker 2>as you said, if you're not going to produce your

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<v Speaker 2>own children, then you've got to import other people. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the welfare state is premised on the fact that you

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<v Speaker 2>will have enough young to support the old. Hungry have

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<v Speaker 2>tried various measures. They've offered interest free loans to families

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<v Speaker 2>with children, housing subsidies, they offered tax exemptions to mothers

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<v Speaker 2>with four or more children. Now it's mothers of two

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<v Speaker 2>or three children will get all one child.

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<v Speaker 3>Also until you're thirty If you have one child, your

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<v Speaker 3>tax exempt.

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<v Speaker 1>It's for the rest of your life. If it's two

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<v Speaker 1>or three children.

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<v Speaker 2>I should point out the Prime Minister of Hungary's got

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<v Speaker 2>five children himself, so he's leading by example. Their birth

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<v Speaker 2>rate's been falling since the nineteen seventies. As mark Stein says,

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<v Speaker 2>demography is destiny. If you don't address this one way,

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<v Speaker 2>then your country disappears. And this is probably the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>story I think of our time, that what's happening in Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not allowed that. You've got to be very careful

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it because it's such a fraught subject.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is the big story because Europe will cease

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<v Speaker 2>to be Europe if it's just full of different people.

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<v Speaker 2>So whether it's Italy or Hungary or Austria, they need

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<v Speaker 2>to produce their own children if they want to keep

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<v Speaker 2>their own culture as we know it, otherwise it will

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<v Speaker 2>become something different. Hungry have decided we want to leave

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<v Speaker 2>our country to our children, so we'll offer incentives. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a great move, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it sad that this is being heralded as the

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<v Speaker 3>world first, family first economy. Shouldn't every economy, especially in

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<v Speaker 3>the Western world, which is fighting for survival. As we

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<v Speaker 3>know it, shouldn't every economy be family first. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>take a rocket scientist to know. We've always known the

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<v Speaker 3>new clear family is the building block of any functioning,

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<v Speaker 3>certainly flourishing society. You prioritize healthy families and the state

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<v Speaker 3>becomes less and less depended on because families meet their

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<v Speaker 3>own needs as people look after people, and that translates

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<v Speaker 3>to childcare, that translates to elderly care when the grandparents

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<v Speaker 3>are too old to look after themselves and maybe require

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<v Speaker 3>someone around the house. If you prioritize families a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things. Just take care of themselves as they did

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<v Speaker 3>previous decades when the state didn't look after half of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're all perfectly fine. I absolutely love this move.

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<v Speaker 3>It should be this is so simple. Yeah, And it

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<v Speaker 3>should also be said that this is on top of

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<v Speaker 3>his government already announcing a doubling of income tax benefits

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<v Speaker 3>to families, and not only that, he's capped housing low

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<v Speaker 3>the interest rate on housing loans in Hungary at five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>If you make life affordable, people will have children. Healthy

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<v Speaker 3>flourishing couples one to have children. It is simply in

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<v Speaker 3>societies like ours, where everyone's like, heck, we're renting, we

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<v Speaker 3>can We'll.

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<v Speaker 4>Never scrape together enough for a deposit. They're scared to

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<v Speaker 4>have children.

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<v Speaker 3>If they had the money, they'd be like, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>let's go. But it's the fact that no governments have

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<v Speaker 3>prioritized this to the extent that they ought that we

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<v Speaker 3>see this is like, oh, this is just revolutionary. This

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<v Speaker 3>ought to be the ABC's of government.

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<v Speaker 2>What you've just said comports with studies that have been

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<v Speaker 2>done in Europe as to why our birth rates so low,

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<v Speaker 2>and the number one reason is economic pressure. People are

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<v Speaker 2>concerned if we have children, how are we going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to afford them.

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<v Speaker 1>The other three were interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Environmental concerns was a reason why the birth rates are

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<v Speaker 2>so low in Europe, And of course we've been bother

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<v Speaker 2>we don't mind if I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't have children about you know, relive yourselves from the

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<v Speaker 3>gene pool.

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<v Speaker 4>If that's how you're going to raise.

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<v Speaker 2>Your well, I mean, people seriously believe if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a child, you are contributing to global warming, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>better off not having children. Evolving social norms was another

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<v Speaker 2>one where you've got the demonization of the family unit.

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<v Speaker 2>In favor of other models. And the final one was

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<v Speaker 2>the intense focus on individual autonomy, that it's transformed from

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<v Speaker 2>not about family or the future, but all about the

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<v Speaker 2>here and now, what I.

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<v Speaker 1>Want for my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to make any sacrifices, so there's a

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<v Speaker 2>bit to overcome.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the prevalence of that third one, though, these

0:25:43.920 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 3>social norms that a lot of people are like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think I want my kids subjected to all the

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that I'm currently struggling to deal with in a

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:56.200
<v Speaker 3>modern day society that we're pummeled with every single day.

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<v Speaker 3>Because Victor Auburn, this guy is so based. If you

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<v Speaker 3>get a chance, check him out, because this guy outwardly

0:26:04.800 --> 0:26:08.919
<v Speaker 3>overtly talks about the fact that for fifteen years his

0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.360
<v Speaker 3>government has been slammed by what he refers to as

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:17.679
<v Speaker 3>the Soros Empire, the liberal globalists, the Brussels bureaucrats. He's like,

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 3>they've thrown money at us, they've thrown threads at us,

0:26:20.160 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 3>they've thrown blackmail at us. But we have prevailed in

0:26:24.160 --> 0:26:27.760
<v Speaker 3>keeping Hungry to Hungary, and this is how it's done.

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 3>He says that quote, this is the battle for the

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<v Speaker 3>soul of the Western world quote, and they're seeking to

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<v Speaker 3>replace Europe's people and raise our Christian values. Would in

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<v Speaker 3>you trade your two front teeth for a leader in

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<v Speaker 3>Australia who talks like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about leadership in Australia. Because Peter Dutton

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>announced a new well I'm not sure if he announced

0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 2>the new policy or not.

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 1>He was a little bit sort of wishy washy on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds good if he's going to do it, but

0:26:57.520 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 2>who would know. The idea is that he would hold

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>a referendum like we need another one to change the

0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:08.919
<v Speaker 2>constitution giving politicians the power to revoke Australian citizenship for

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>criminals who have dual citizenship. Here he is on morning

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.640
<v Speaker 2>television sort of proposing what might be a policy.

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<v Speaker 10>We can do as much as we can by legislation,

0:27:19.840 --> 0:27:22.320
<v Speaker 10>but as they say, you can't out legislate the constitution.

0:27:22.440 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 10>What we're proposing here is a discussion about whether we've

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 10>got adequate laws, whether the constitution is restrictive. If you

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.440
<v Speaker 10>want to keep your kids safe, and we want to

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:34.200
<v Speaker 10>keep kids safe in our community, then I don't think

0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 10>you can put a.

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<v Speaker 1>Price on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, current laws do allow someone's citizenship to be revoked

0:27:40.080 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>if they commit a serious crime. The problem is that

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.480
<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty two the High Court rule that a

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:49.439
<v Speaker 2>minister can't revoke someone's Australian citizenship because that would be

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>seen as punitive or as punishment, and that's a role

0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>for courts, not for politicians. Hence Peter Dutton is starting

0:27:57.560 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 2>a conversation. I'm not sure why you start a conversation

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 2>six weeks out from an election.

0:28:01.720 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>You either do it or you don't.

0:28:03.280 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 2>But he's started a conversation about whether or not we

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 2>should change the constitution to deal with this issue. As

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 2>you can imagine, Anthony Albaneze had a field day.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, this is another thought bubble from Peter Dutton that

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 11>hasn't made it to lunchtime. This morning you had Peter

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 11>Dutton on one TV channel calling for a referendum, Mecaalia

0:28:24.359 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 11>Cash on another TV channel ruling it out. This has

0:28:28.040 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 11>not been thought through. There is not clear where this

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 11>has come from. Peter Dutton wants to talk about anything

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:36.760
<v Speaker 11>but cost of living.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I just say it's a little bit rich of

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Anthony Albanesi and his Treasurer Jim Chalmers to say Peter

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Dutton wants to talk about anything except cost of living

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.880
<v Speaker 2>when they spent most of last week talking about a wombat.

0:28:49.000 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So good on you for that.

0:28:51.040 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 2>As for a thought bubble, well at least it's a thought.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure Elbaneze he's had one of those bubble

0:28:55.680 --> 0:28:56.720
<v Speaker 2>or not for a long time.

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>He went on to say Liz that Peter Dutton's trying

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>to divide public. Well, exactly, that's the point.

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Of deporting people who keepit crimes. You divide them from

0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the rest of the Australian population. And again for Anthony Albernezi,

0:29:08.720 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 2>who proposed a referendum to divide Australians by race, to

0:29:12.720 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 2>now accuse Peter Dutton of dividing Australians because he wants

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>to remove criminal elements from our country is a little

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:20.840
<v Speaker 2>bit rich.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think it's a good idea. I'm in favor

0:29:24.280 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>of it.

0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I just wish Peter Dutton would nail his colors to

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<v Speaker 2>the mast and say this is what we will do,

0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>or don't talk about it. But to start, what does

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:35.560
<v Speaker 2>it even mean to start a conversation?

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 3>I mean, look, I think he hit the nail on

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 3>the head unwittingly in contradicting himself when he said in

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 3>that crab we.

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 4>Can do as much as we can using legislation. Yeah,

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 4>but you haven't.

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 3>You haven't look at the detainee debarcle. You guys can't

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 3>even deport people who came here illegally committed crimes.

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:00.600
<v Speaker 4>Got released about.

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:03.560
<v Speaker 3>Rapists and murderers, not low level like oh they robbed

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 3>a granny of her coffee money. No, no, you won't

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 3>send those people back to their country of origin. I

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 3>think this is a nothing burger because when we see

0:30:15.240 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 3>those headlines of people committing these heinous crimes here in Australia,

0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 3>they're not dual citizenships anyway, They're not well citizens.

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 4>We just own them like they're our citizens. They go

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 4>in our jails, end of story.

0:30:29.760 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 3>That's our problem, that is our circus, that is our monkeys.

0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:36.200
<v Speaker 4>But these dual citizenships, who's he talking about?

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 3>When we read those headlines on a weekly basis and

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 3>discuss in detail this person should be sent home. We're

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 3>not talking about duel citizens. So I don't even know

0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 3>who he's talking about in this dual citizen category that

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>we'd spend half a billion dollars to have a referendum on.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 3>And when you talk about, oh you can only do

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 3>so much with legislation. How about you exhaust that first,

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 3>because right now none of the legislation around this is

0:31:06.640 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 3>working for us as a nation. It desperately needs to

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.160
<v Speaker 3>be amended. You guys haven't even tried that on. It

0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 3>ought to be exhausted before you spend half a billion

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 3>dollars sending us to the polls for a referendum.

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<v Speaker 6>I have a few thoughts on that, Liz. I mean, firstly,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 6>there are ways you can do referendums that don't cost

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 6>half a billion dollars. You could just add this as

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 6>a question to a normal election and you could do.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:31.320
<v Speaker 4>It that way.

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 3>You'd have to have bipartisan support for that, which is

0:31:34.120 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 3>never going.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 5>To guess so well, that is one way you could

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 5>do it. I mean, secondly, I think it's good that.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 6>Dutton is even putting forward ways to deal with our

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:42.880
<v Speaker 6>immigration crisis.

0:31:43.160 --> 0:31:44.080
<v Speaker 5>It's better than Albo.

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 6>It's under their watch that we saw over one hundred

0:31:46.840 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 6>hardened criminals released into the community because the High Court

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 6>decided that it was unconstitutional to indefinitely hold people into tention.

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.160
<v Speaker 5>And in that case that you're referring, it's.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 4>Not dules but not or nothing.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 6>But that's the thing that was not a case of

0:32:02.800 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 6>legislation failing. That was a case of legislation falling afoul

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 6>of the Constitution because you can't indefinitely detain people. This

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 6>is the problem you come up against with migration. With

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 6>ministerial power. There are a lot of guard rails that

0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 6>the Constitution has on what ministers can actually do.

0:32:21.320 --> 0:32:22.760
<v Speaker 5>I think the smartest way.

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 6>I totally see the problem that Dutton is trying to solve,

0:32:25.520 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 6>which is that we do have criminals in this country

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.480
<v Speaker 6>that are deal citizens committing crimes. Why should we spend

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.480
<v Speaker 6>hundreds of thousands of dollars a year housing them in

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 6>our first world prisons when they should just frankly get

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 6>sent back to where they've come from. That is a

0:32:40.800 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 6>very fair point. I think the probably the more strategic

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 6>way he could handle this is by amending the legislation

0:32:48.840 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 6>in the Citizenship Act so that it's not the minister

0:32:52.600 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 6>that deports or cancels the citizenship of these criminals, but

0:32:56.320 --> 0:32:59.560
<v Speaker 6>you lower the threshold at which the High Court, which

0:32:59.600 --> 0:33:01.960
<v Speaker 6>the Court could do that. So you say, for any

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.840
<v Speaker 6>offense which involves you know, a prison term of over

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 6>one year, for example, which is significantly lower than what

0:33:08.520 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 6>it currently is. The Core could decide to strip you

0:33:12.160 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 6>your citizenship. We don't need a referendum for that. I

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 6>do think maybe this was just a media sort of moment,

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 6>but there are ways you could do this, and I

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 6>think he's onto something and most Australians would support tougher action.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I was going to ask you, do you think people

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 2>would be warm totally? I think they would be. People

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>recognize the problems and as you pointed out this, look,

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.959
<v Speaker 2>you've had sorts of stuff ups from this current government

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 2>with regards to people who aren't citizens.

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 4>And he's capitalizing on that.

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's sick of that. He's capitalizing on that. I just

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.680
<v Speaker 2>wish you'd be strong on it. Don't make a thought bubble,

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 2>make a policy.

0:33:45.480 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, the fact that it was a thought bubble was

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 3>made abundantly clear when, as Elbow pointed out in that

0:33:50.120 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 3>video we just showed you, Dunn's own Attorney General, Makalia Cash,

0:33:54.040 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 3>was minutes later being like, yeah, no, this isn't a thing.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 3>So if this was a grab for votes, may it

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 3>sound like something's awesome?

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.280
<v Speaker 4>Then that fell over really really quickly.

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 3>It sounded like he hadn't even discussed it with the

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 3>party room, mate, try it on with legislation first. You

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.160
<v Speaker 3>can do better by us as a nation without sending.

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.359
<v Speaker 4>Us off to a referendum.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 3>To another issue that we're seeing grow in greater and

0:34:19.560 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 3>greater prevalence here in Australia, and that is the question

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:29.240
<v Speaker 3>of over diagnoses of children, whether it's with autism adhd

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 3>add The numbers in Australia have shot through the roof

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:38.799
<v Speaker 3>in recent years, prompting experts to now say, look, are

0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:43.320
<v Speaker 3>these conditions as prevalent as the money we're out putting

0:34:43.480 --> 0:34:48.440
<v Speaker 3>into these, especially by the NDAs, into these issues. Are

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.640
<v Speaker 3>they growing more prevalent or are people simply more aware

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 3>of them and taking the government for a ride in

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:59.720
<v Speaker 3>terms of becoming a cash cow. Some of the latest

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 3>stat out of the ABS, which is a little bit

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 3>old now but will still be absolutely hair raising. It's

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:08.759
<v Speaker 3>the first time you've heard of it. According to the ABS,

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 3>there were two hundred and ninety thousand, nine hundred all

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:17.440
<v Speaker 3>these with autism back in twenty twenty two, which was

0:35:17.600 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 3>a forty one point eight percent rise on the numbers

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 3>from the latest ABS statistics back in just twenty and eighteen.

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:32.879
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that is mind blowing. How on Earth.

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Do we get an over forty percent increase in just

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>four years time.

0:35:39.280 --> 0:35:40.319
<v Speaker 4>It's unthinkable.

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 3>The same goes with adhd add The numbers are hair

0:35:45.320 --> 0:35:49.799
<v Speaker 3>curling and according to a really comprehensive study done by

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.960
<v Speaker 3>A and U just last year, Australia's autism rates are

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 3>among the highest in the world. So for me personally,

0:35:58.320 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 3>I look at stats like this, I look at numbers

0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 3>like this, I look at the concerns being expressed by

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 3>these experts and I say, look whether people are taking

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 3>the government for a ride? And I do find it

0:36:08.239 --> 0:36:11.640
<v Speaker 3>hard to believe that that many parents would be doing

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 3>so knowing that their kid isn't unwell, but just heading

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 3>up the government for some cash. Where are the studies

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.880
<v Speaker 3>being done on why these numbers are going through the roof?

0:36:23.920 --> 0:36:27.640
<v Speaker 3>In America, we have the Make Australia, Make America Healthy

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Again movement vowed to look into this. Is that if

0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:33.800
<v Speaker 3>we win the election, we are going to look into

0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:38.240
<v Speaker 3>why these rates are also rising exponentially in our populations.

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 3>We just don't seem to have anyone remotely interested here.

0:36:42.560 --> 0:36:45.239
<v Speaker 2>The Australian Institute of Health and Welfare have said that

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 2>one in seven Australian children aged four to seventeen have

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 2>experienced a mental health issue, which is quite extraordinary, and

0:36:53.960 --> 0:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>as a parent of kids, it's a difficult time to

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 2>raise kids. I think the world is far more complicated

0:36:58.600 --> 0:37:02.120
<v Speaker 2>now mainly because of this then when I grew up,

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 2>So I can understand that kids would be having challenges,

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.319
<v Speaker 2>but not to the extent that we're seeing. And at

0:37:07.320 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 2>the same time, you've got parenting which has undergone a

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 2>transformation which is more child centered, where we try and

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.839
<v Speaker 2>empower the child, and with that goes the whole trying

0:37:18.840 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 2>to protect them from every ill and every ailment. And

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.719
<v Speaker 2>so instead of teaching resilience and teaching them you know what,

0:37:24.760 --> 0:37:26.839
<v Speaker 2>you can fall over, you can skin, you know you're

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 2>going to be all right, we're trying to protect them

0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 2>from everything, and we assume it must be a pathological

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.640
<v Speaker 2>problem rather than just a behavioral exactly.

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:37.200
<v Speaker 6>And I think there are a lot of incentives to

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:40.759
<v Speaker 6>find a diagnosis for your child. In fact, in so

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 6>many areas we've pathologized behavior, so that if my child's

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<v Speaker 6>playing up, oh no, it can't be because they're a

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<v Speaker 6>naughty kid. It's definitely because they've got something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And that because of your parenting.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're a parent, it is much easier to live

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<v Speaker 6>with yourself if you just tell yourself that your child

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<v Speaker 6>has some sort of disorder, rather than some sort of

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<v Speaker 6>disorder parenting.

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<v Speaker 2>Which makes parenting incredibly complicated because you're trying to work out, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>is this an issue that I need to go and

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<v Speaker 2>seek professional help or is a behavioral issue that I've

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<v Speaker 2>got to address with discipline and that can be a

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<v Speaker 2>real nightmare for appearents.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 2>including the Victorian Premier just sent to Allen in all

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<v Speaker 2>sorts of trouble over allegations regarding the sacking of top police.

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<v Speaker 2>And we'll look at that and more in just a moment. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's take a look what's making headlines tomorrow. Liz will

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<v Speaker 2>start with the Canberra Times.

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<v Speaker 3>What a rarity the Canberra Times recruitment rates wholly deficient,

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<v Speaker 3>says minister. We're talking about the ADF tell us something.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>The company in charge of turning around Australia's moribund defense

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<v Speaker 3>recruitment rates was told by the responsible Minister, its performance

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<v Speaker 3>was quote not satisfactory end quote, and targeted recruitment rates

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<v Speaker 3>were wholly deficient. Less than a year from taking on

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<v Speaker 3>the one point four billion dollar contract, The Camera Times

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<v Speaker 3>has obtained correspondence between Defense Personnel Minister Matt Keoh and

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<v Speaker 3>Swiss recruitment giant a Deco, exposing the depths to which

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<v Speaker 3>the relationship had sunk. Now we know that the ADF

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<v Speaker 3>actually did receive sixty four thousand applications just last year.

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<v Speaker 3>That sounds incredibly impressive, doesn't it. But less than one

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<v Speaker 3>in ten is getting accepted, and so obviously applicants are like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me. Now Australians, much to their shock, are reminded

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<v Speaker 3>that this really really important job. Hello, we need to

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<v Speaker 3>get our numbers up. Times are perilous. Nobody's joining Our

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<v Speaker 3>defense force was outsourced to a Swiss company, And then

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<v Speaker 3>we wonder why maybe they didn't care enough to do

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<v Speaker 3>a good enough job.

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<v Speaker 2>The Swiss company basically had two KPIs. They said they

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<v Speaker 2>would recruit ten thousand or thereabouts new soldiers. They say,

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<v Speaker 2>now it'll be about seven thousand. So they've only met

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<v Speaker 2>seventy percent of their target and the other KPI was

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<v Speaker 2>they would within one hundred days take someone from application

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<v Speaker 2>to enlistment. They're now saying, oo, it'll be more like

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty days. But what really gets me is,

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<v Speaker 2>as you pointed out, they've been told their performance is

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<v Speaker 2>not satisfactory and wholly deficient, and then their contract's been

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<v Speaker 2>extended by another six months.

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<v Speaker 6>Indeed, peak government bureaucery exactly right there. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 6>have not hit a single defense force recruitment target since

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<v Speaker 6>I think about nineteen ninety six, and the average time

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<v Speaker 6>it takes to process and application is over a year.

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<v Speaker 5>People have moved on with.

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<v Speaker 6>Their lives in over a year, so it's no wonder

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<v Speaker 6>people are applying, but they're not actually joining the defense

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<v Speaker 6>force because who would wait around for that long. But

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<v Speaker 6>in the Herald Sun, we've also got some interesting headlines.

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<v Speaker 6>Corruption bombshell. Acted deputy police chief accuses premier, minister and

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<v Speaker 6>new top cop of conspiracy, misconduct and retribution in explosive

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<v Speaker 6>iback claim. Premier just sin to Allen and Police Minister

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<v Speaker 6>Anthony Carmines and Acting Chief Commissioner Rick Nugget have been

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<v Speaker 6>accused of corruption and misconduct in public office over the

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<v Speaker 6>acting of the states to top cops, at what point

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<v Speaker 6>will Victorian labor reach a point of no return? How

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<v Speaker 6>many more corruption scandals can they possibly have? The CFMU

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<v Speaker 6>earlier this week, Now the top cops go and iback like,

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<v Speaker 6>is this just it's reaching fast levels?

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<v Speaker 2>And this is bad for sin to Ellen of course,

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<v Speaker 2>because the crime crisis is the number one issue in

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<v Speaker 2>Victoria and she has been like an Olympic gymnastream backflip

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<v Speaker 2>after backflip with tougher bail laws, banning machettes. For her

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<v Speaker 2>now to be accused of having dealt wrongly with the

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<v Speaker 2>former Commissioner Shane Patton, especially when it was revealed the

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<v Speaker 2>other week that Shane Patten, shortly before he was removed,

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<v Speaker 2>had proposed tougher bail laws and been told can't afford it,

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<v Speaker 2>not enough room in prisons. Then he's out the door,

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<v Speaker 2>presumably because there was a vote of no confidence by

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<v Speaker 2>police officers. That was the reason given by the premier.

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<v Speaker 2>But now of course you've got the former deputy commissioner

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<v Speaker 2>saying no, no, no, there was something else going on.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just bad on every level for Jacinta Allen.

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<v Speaker 2>But one quick thing is before we get to the Australian.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember last night we're talking about Brad Batten, the

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<v Speaker 2>Victorian Liberal leader who was making the front page because

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<v Speaker 2>he said he was visiting family in Queensland went on

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<v Speaker 2>a cruise talk about the Liberal This is the headlines

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<v Speaker 2>that the Liberals want on the front page, not their

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<v Speaker 2>own stupid squabbles.

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<v Speaker 4>So they glad to have the spotlight back on the Alan.

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<v Speaker 1>Government where it should be, Yeah, should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. They're like, yep, please keep magging us look good.

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<v Speaker 3>No more of those front pages about us, Thank you

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<v Speaker 3>very much to the Australia Now where the biggest splash

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<v Speaker 3>reads keeping coal state seas Light. One of Australia's biggest

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<v Speaker 3>coal power stations in Victoria's Latrobe Valley, is set to

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<v Speaker 3>stay open for four more years, amid fears of devastating

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<v Speaker 3>electricity shortages. In an extraordinary u turn for the State

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<v Speaker 3>Labor Government's renewable energy only blueprint, a decision to keep

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<v Speaker 3>coal in the power system for longer underscores Australia's volatile

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<v Speaker 3>transmission from fossil fuels to green power, Even as Federal

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<v Speaker 3>Minister Federal Energy Minister rather Chris Bowen insisted a move

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<v Speaker 3>to double the amount of renewable energy by the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the decade remained on track. Mate, when you're going

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<v Speaker 3>to give up on that line, nobody is agreeing with you,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>and they're the ones running the energy companies, so nobody's

0:43:57.760 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 3>listening to you anymore. And when Victor, the most devoted

0:44:02.400 --> 0:44:07.760
<v Speaker 3>state in the country to your renewable energy's dream, dominated

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<v Speaker 3>by labor left, is actually turning around and saying, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to have to keep the call up and

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<v Speaker 3>running for an extra four years.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch that drag out.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, let's replay this clip in four years

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:23.279
<v Speaker 3>and see if it's been closed by then. You can

0:44:23.360 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 3>beat your bottom dollar. They'll be extending it once more.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this call is unreliable and unaffordable and we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to need it for a lot longer.

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<v Speaker 1>And then put those two things together.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing in Tomorrow's Australian there's a story hidden

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<v Speaker 2>away that five solar farms in regional Victoria have been

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<v Speaker 2>told to shut down because of bushfire risks.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got these two stories in the paper Tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>Coal extended for at least another two three four years

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<v Speaker 2>in Victoria, while solar farms, which are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>supplying all the power are ordered to be switched off

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<v Speaker 2>because of bushfire Risksen just would be loving this.

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<v Speaker 4>I know. And to make matters worse for labor.

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<v Speaker 3>We read also on the front page of the Australian

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<v Speaker 3>debt blowout worst in developed world. Australia has recorded the

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<v Speaker 3>sharpest increase in public debt in the developed world, with

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<v Speaker 3>government liabilities as a proportion of national output growing almost

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<v Speaker 3>fourfold over the past two decades. Of course, we can't

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<v Speaker 3>blame them for a fourfold increase after that many decades,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're the ones holding the corn shell while.

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<v Speaker 4>This is making the news.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not a good look when you're looking at an

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<v Speaker 3>election in just a matter of months.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, yeah, well, that's what happens when you spend an

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<v Speaker 6>extra three hundred and forty seven billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>What do you know? The budget blows out.

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<v Speaker 6>But over in the bulletin, a council puts a pin

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<v Speaker 6>in jumping castles. There is a ban on bouncing. Townsville

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<v Speaker 6>Council has taken the extraordinary step of banning jumping castles

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<v Speaker 6>in council hearts and venues in response to changes made

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<v Speaker 6>by the state's Safety Watchdog, but Townsville amusement rides operator

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<v Speaker 6>says local businesses were blindsided by the move, labeling it

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<v Speaker 6>un Australian. I cannot tell you how many birthday parties

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<v Speaker 6>I had on a jumping parcel. I think it is

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<v Speaker 6>outrageous that the kids in Townsville will not get to

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<v Speaker 6>experience that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was one terrible accident some years ago

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<v Speaker 2>which is an absolute tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>But surely the answer is not to ban it.

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<v Speaker 2>As it appears the Townshill Council have done in response.

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<v Speaker 2>The answer is to have good safety regulations and make

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<v Speaker 2>sure people do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let the kids bounce. We're going to go to a commercial.

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<v Speaker 2>Break, but when we come back a Melbourne council bans

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<v Speaker 2>people from attending. Of course, they're the people that are

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<v Speaker 2>paying the rates. Talk about that in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Last month the Melbourne Council in Casey had to have

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<v Speaker 2>police escort councilors from the chamber after local residents boom,

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 2>shouted and swore at them over land permits, which require

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 2>people to pay to store their own vehicles on their

0:47:07.600 --> 0:47:10.360
<v Speaker 2>own properties. Here's what happened at that meeting last month.

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<v Speaker 8>The council meeting.

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<v Speaker 12>Will resume at seven point thirty five. We'll all councilors

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<v Speaker 12>and staff vacate the council chamber for ten minutes under

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<v Speaker 12>Clause seventy nine of the City of Casey Governance Rules.

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<v Speaker 12>I'm adjourning this meeting tonight and it will resume at

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<v Speaker 12>a date to be determined. We'll all counselors and staff

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<v Speaker 12>vacate the council chamber.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do when local ratepayers aren't happy

0:47:44.400 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 2>and they behave like that at a council meeting? Where

0:47:47.160 --> 0:47:50.600
<v Speaker 2>you move the next council meeting online so ratepayers don't

0:47:50.600 --> 0:47:53.960
<v Speaker 2>get to attend at all. These councilors list have completely

0:47:54.000 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 2>forgotten the ratepayers are paying their salari sool then and

0:47:57.480 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 2>they're hiding from.

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<v Speaker 3>Just get rid of the people you were unhappy with

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:01.839
<v Speaker 3>your performance.

0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.320
<v Speaker 4>It's that easy.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, today, Carolyn Levitt, Press Secretary for the White House,

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.239
<v Speaker 3>was asked what she was going to do about a

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<v Speaker 3>request from a random French MP to return the Statue

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<v Speaker 3>of Liberty.

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<v Speaker 7>There is now a member of the European Parliament from

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<v Speaker 7>France who does not think the US represents the values

0:48:22.160 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 7>of the Statue of Liberty anymore.

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 10>They want the Statue of Liberty back.

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<v Speaker 7>So is President Trump going to send the Statute of Liberty.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to France?

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 13>And my advice to that unnamed, low level French politician

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 13>would be to remind them that it's only because of

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 13>the United States of America that the French are not

0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:46.640
<v Speaker 13>speaking German right now, so they should be very grateful

0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:48.120
<v Speaker 13>to our great country.

0:48:49.080 --> 0:48:52.799
<v Speaker 3>She clearly hasn't read New York Times bestseller church Hill

0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:57.000
<v Speaker 3>Hitler and the Unnecessary War How Britain Lost its Empire

0:48:57.160 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 3>and the West Lost the World. Highly recommend it. But

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:02.359
<v Speaker 3>you thought it was a cool comeback, didn't your mack?

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.480
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a great burn I haven't read

0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:07.759
<v Speaker 2>guy edition. I mean, you'd hate to be that guy

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 2>who absolutely got burned.

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<v Speaker 1>She does a great job. She's a good White House secretary.

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<v Speaker 5>She's so good.

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<v Speaker 6>But that's just the Europeans for you at the moment,

0:49:14.560 --> 0:49:18.440
<v Speaker 6>always complaining, always winging, and then requesting America to rescue them.

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<v Speaker 4>Iconic friend, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>All we've got time for stick around. Coming up is

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<v Speaker 1>Therena Penny Show. Good Night