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Speaker 1: Yeah, approache production for the record. I'm done trying to

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to part two of our chat with Matt

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Speaker 4: stein Wade. If you haven't heard the first part yet,

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Speaker 4: make sure to go back and check it out. In

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Speaker 4: this episode, we pick up right where we left off

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Speaker 4: as Matt opens up about family, grief and the powerful

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Speaker 5: He just had this talent that was like, well, everyone

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Speaker 6: Power he had.

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Speaker 5: So as he got older, a good looking kid looked

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Speaker 5: like he's good looking kid. He like got the golden hair,

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Speaker 5: you know, he got more of his mum's jeans.

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Speaker 4: And then it must have been pretty good because you're

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Speaker 3: So I'm not just saving a bit of a bit

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Speaker 5: he competed since he was young, but he was like

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Speaker 5: But it's like he couldn't sit still in school. I

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Speaker 3: And that's okay.

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Speaker 4: And for me, as I say, is, I didn't know

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Speaker 5: It took me a long time to process, and I

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Speaker 5: was a full blown athlete, like he was amazing condition.

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Speaker 5: The energy that kid had was unbelievable. But when COVID came,

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Speaker 5: And then the I watched it like he was living

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Speaker 6: Phoenix was playing for the Roosters in the twenty ones.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what their grades are.

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Speaker 5: I used to spend about one hundred and twenty thousand

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Speaker 4: And this is a man who's just like I say,

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Speaker 5: it's not like I made him. But he was like,

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Speaker 3: It was like, how do we continue this?

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Speaker 4: Where men were built to adapt, and especially with our background,

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Speaker 4: it fucking has to happen.

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Speaker 3: I have to produce.

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Speaker 4: Simple telling your young son that you sorry, your life's

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Speaker 4: for that matter, any of your children or yourself cooped

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Speaker 4: And for you that what now moment had a massive impact.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it did. And you know, video gaming.

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Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden we noticed all the

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Speaker 4: And then is that like a chroming matt, like the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well you know where it started from Bali. They

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Speaker 5: It actually started there. And I came home one night

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Speaker 4: you know, have a heart on for real estate today.

434
00:20:35,281 --> 00:20:37,481
Speaker 5: I've learned now that you've got to have life running

435
00:20:37,481 --> 00:20:40,041
Speaker 5: in parallel. I think being all in is great to

436
00:20:40,041 --> 00:20:41,480
Speaker 5: get you to a point, but then you've got to

437
00:20:41,481 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 5: build a life in parallel, which I didn't before. But

438
00:20:44,801 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 5: now I'm just very uncompromising in the energy side of things,

439
00:20:48,681 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 5: Like you've got to feel great.

440
00:20:50,041 --> 00:20:51,080
Speaker 6: You have to feel great.

441
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,521
Speaker 5: And I know people talk about gut health and people

442
00:20:53,561 --> 00:20:55,920
Speaker 5: talk about all this sort of stuff, but you know

443
00:20:55,961 --> 00:21:00,001
Speaker 5: there's definitely in today's society with cloud seeding and these

444
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 5: types of foods, the chemicals in the foods, you've got

445
00:21:02,761 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 5: to be careful and you've got to be committed and

446
00:21:05,321 --> 00:21:08,801
Speaker 5: diligent around this is just like a machine. Really, your

447
00:21:08,801 --> 00:21:11,521
Speaker 5: body is, and what you do to it will have

448
00:21:11,561 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 5: a result. So like drinking, forget the drug side of it,

449
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 5: but the drink, like as in spurring on the drinking,

450
00:21:17,921 --> 00:21:21,321
Speaker 5: just alcohol is poisoned, plain and simple. I'm not talking

451
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:23,441
Speaker 5: about triggering or anything. I'm talking about what it does

452
00:21:23,481 --> 00:21:26,161
Speaker 5: to in here. So what I've learned over time now

453
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,041
Speaker 5: and I've lived it, but I've also studied it with

454
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 5: through people like Tommy my nutrition Iss. He has a

455
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,281
Speaker 5: PhD in nutrition and specialized in gut health. He's unbelievable,

456
00:21:36,321 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 5: this guy. So I talk to him every day and

457
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 5: I have done for a number of years now. And

458
00:21:41,241 --> 00:21:42,481
Speaker 5: he just came up and said, all, oh to me

459
00:21:42,481 --> 00:21:44,881
Speaker 5: in a shop one day. Thank goodness. I don't talk

460
00:21:44,921 --> 00:21:48,360
Speaker 5: to people readily when I'm out in public arm things,

461
00:21:48,561 --> 00:21:50,121
Speaker 5: and something said go talk to this guy.

462
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,121
Speaker 6: And I went and found him because he walked off.

463
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 6: I said, oh, do you own the shop?

464
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,721
Speaker 5: We've got chatting and ever since then, mate, what I've

465
00:21:56,801 --> 00:22:01,081
Speaker 5: learned from gut health is it's everything. So when you

466
00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 5: eat something like a donut, your body's got to process it,

467
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,041
Speaker 5: and your body struggles. If you've got an energy problem,

468
00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:11,640
Speaker 5: it's usually a diet problem and it's not you know,

469
00:22:11,721 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 5: sleep is one thing, but you can have a shorter

470
00:22:13,961 --> 00:22:17,601
Speaker 5: sleep for quality sleep. But the motherboard is in your stomach.

471
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,481
Speaker 5: And that's where a lot of our people talk about

472
00:22:19,681 --> 00:22:22,281
Speaker 5: that feel flat or depressed. All this all that you've

473
00:22:22,281 --> 00:22:24,681
Speaker 5: got to look at what you're eating because in your

474
00:22:24,721 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 5: gut there's a whole bucket of bacteria, good bacteria, not

475
00:22:27,761 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 5: good bacteria. You decide what one you're going to feed.

476
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:36,161
Speaker 5: You feed the not good stuff with gluten, dairy, alcohol, sugar.

477
00:22:36,761 --> 00:22:42,281
Speaker 5: There is more stuff like mulsifiers and thickeners and flavors

478
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,161
Speaker 5: and this, and that you're gonna have problems and everything

479
00:22:46,201 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 5: not great stems from inflammation, yes, and inflammation is caused

480
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,481
Speaker 5: by obviously stress, but lack of dehydration, lack of food

481
00:22:57,561 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 5: quality pretty much. And if you don't believe that, and

482
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,400
Speaker 5: people are listening to this, going, oh whatever. Before I

483
00:23:06,441 --> 00:23:10,321
Speaker 5: started this, my inflammation markers were so high, like I'm

484
00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,321
Speaker 5: talking just at the end of when I started to

485
00:23:13,441 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 5: get more on this journey, it was around eight, so

486
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,041
Speaker 5: I would have been a lot higher than that. Eight

487
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 5: to eleven is where strokes happened. Oh dear, heart attack

488
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,281
Speaker 5: and strokes. That's where it is. My last blood test,

489
00:23:25,321 --> 00:23:27,761
Speaker 5: which was just a month ago, was point zero to seven.

490
00:23:28,281 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 5: Inflammation market basically gone, Wow, what's happened is my body

491
00:23:34,241 --> 00:23:37,041
Speaker 5: is humming now. But it's taken a lot of work.

492
00:23:37,481 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 5: And people say to me all the time, isn't it

493
00:23:39,961 --> 00:23:42,321
Speaker 5: boring living like that? No, not at all. Isn't it

494
00:23:42,321 --> 00:23:45,201
Speaker 5: boring sitting in a hospital getting fixed because you've got

495
00:23:45,201 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 5: a problem. And I got my appendix out and some

496
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 5: of them about taken out and that's the thing that

497
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,041
Speaker 5: actually really spurred on the gut healthing. But I was like,

498
00:23:53,241 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 5: what I've learned about it now is everything on the

499
00:23:56,001 --> 00:23:59,801
Speaker 5: outside one hundred percent relates to the inside. But you've

500
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,321
Speaker 5: got to be really committed to understanding what you're eating.

501
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,321
Speaker 5: Most of the food out there, anything that sits in

502
00:24:06,321 --> 00:24:10,321
Speaker 5: a packet, you shouldn't eat. Just about anything that is

503
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,321
Speaker 5: long life packet sits on a shelf. Even the fruit

504
00:24:15,321 --> 00:24:17,841
Speaker 5: and veggies you see at supermuke, I wouldn't buy any

505
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 5: of those. No, they are full of pesticides and chemicals,

506
00:24:22,921 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 5: and they're like if you eat an apple from one

507
00:24:25,481 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 5: of those non organic places, that apple is nothing more

508
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 5: than a cylinder full of chemicals. Your body's got to

509
00:24:33,001 --> 00:24:35,961
Speaker 5: process this stuff, and when your body processes it, it's

510
00:24:35,961 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 5: got to get rid of it. And if you do

511
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 5: that enough and enough, you eat some processed cheese, you

512
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,561
Speaker 5: eat some milk in the morning with this cereal, you

513
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 5: eat some white bread, you eat this and that, and

514
00:24:47,961 --> 00:24:51,001
Speaker 5: you eat an apple that's full of these pesticida. Your

515
00:24:51,041 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 5: body is being hammered by non stop chemicals. It's gonna

516
00:24:56,681 --> 00:24:58,801
Speaker 5: cause a problem. And then you drink alcohol on top

517
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 5: of that and then you eat ice creams and cakes

518
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 5: and this sort of stuff.

519
00:25:01,961 --> 00:25:03,521
Speaker 6: Mate, forget it. That's why you have problems.

520
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,001
Speaker 4: Speaking of problems, so I relate to it again because

521
00:25:07,041 --> 00:25:09,761
Speaker 4: I just literally have had three weeks off and this

522
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,921
Speaker 4: is why I had to deal with some health issues.

523
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: I had to a large cys in my bow that

524
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: needed to be removed, which then caused the tear and

525
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,801
Speaker 4: the hemorrhaging, and I neglected it. You know, I spent

526
00:25:23,321 --> 00:25:26,441
Speaker 4: nearly fifteen years driving b doubles around Australia three four

527
00:25:26,481 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: weeks at a time, eating shit food, the years of

528
00:25:29,681 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 4: sticking coke up my nose, and when I drink, I

529
00:25:32,441 --> 00:25:35,321
Speaker 4: don't drink beer, so I drink spirits and I don't

530
00:25:35,321 --> 00:25:38,561
Speaker 4: get drunk like I just can drink and drink and drink.

531
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Speaker 3: I mean, not so much.

532
00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 4: I'm a pumpkin at ten o'clock going oh shit about

533
00:25:42,681 --> 00:25:46,721
Speaker 4: three drinks. But what damage I had done to myself

534
00:25:46,761 --> 00:25:50,281
Speaker 4: and then put in the excessive training, not eating right,

535
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,241
Speaker 4: the body not repairing and not healing itself properly caused

536
00:25:54,241 --> 00:25:56,761
Speaker 4: me these issues. Plus the last five years, I've had

537
00:25:56,921 --> 00:26:02,681
Speaker 4: some massive stress issues that caused my health to deteriorate

538
00:26:02,761 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 4: and have this recent scare, and I've only just come

539
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 4: out of the recovery of not wearing a pad between

540
00:26:09,041 --> 00:26:12,841
Speaker 4: the bum cheeks for the last week. So you know,

541
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: you're very, very on the point of what you're saying.

542
00:26:15,481 --> 00:26:18,561
Speaker 4: And the words are the recknecologist or whatever they call

543
00:26:19,241 --> 00:26:21,521
Speaker 4: that person. And obviously they had to do the stick

544
00:26:21,561 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 4: their camera down your mouth, what they correct all that

545
00:26:25,201 --> 00:26:25,721
Speaker 4: sort of stuff.

546
00:26:25,721 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: So and I was able to visually see parts.

547
00:26:28,481 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 4: Of what was and what was after, and I was

548
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: actually shocked at the size of these cysts that had

549
00:26:34,521 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 4: grown and why I was getting these problems now. And

550
00:26:38,561 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 4: I was only talking to my son last night. He

551
00:26:40,241 --> 00:26:43,801
Speaker 4: loves kim chi, he's raised vegetarian, he's Mum's side of

552
00:26:43,801 --> 00:26:44,801
Speaker 4: the family rual veggio.

553
00:26:44,921 --> 00:26:46,001
Speaker 3: That was just what it was.

554
00:26:46,041 --> 00:26:50,361
Speaker 4: He's now started to step into another space and choosing

555
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: to eat other foods that are helping his growth and

556
00:26:53,761 --> 00:26:56,801
Speaker 4: repair his body because of the high amount of exercise

557
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: in rugby league and sporting and it's justifiable, but it

558
00:27:01,321 --> 00:27:04,561
Speaker 4: is so important. Everything you just said then is relative

559
00:27:05,281 --> 00:27:06,641
Speaker 4: better health and wellness.

560
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:07,721
Speaker 6: It's true.

561
00:27:07,761 --> 00:27:10,481
Speaker 5: And it's on that note exactly what you said then,

562
00:27:10,521 --> 00:27:12,881
Speaker 5: Brent about I had really bad low iron for years

563
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,801
Speaker 5: and years, it was just dropping to the point where

564
00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:16,801
Speaker 5: the doctor goes, mate, you've got to go get an

565
00:27:16,801 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 5: iron transfision.

566
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 6: My daughter has to have any one.

567
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,481
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm knocking one because you know, in the

568
00:27:21,521 --> 00:27:25,121
Speaker 5: iron transfusions, from what I've learned from them, they're actually

569
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,321
Speaker 5: iron violence. So they're no good for you. That's why

570
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,281
Speaker 5: people get sick after they're no good for you.

571
00:27:30,321 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 4: Can you tell me more about this, Matt, because my

572
00:27:32,441 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 4: daughter two days ago, she's legally blind and she's so

573
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: just turn dating and she's thirty six kilos. God bless her,

574
00:27:38,681 --> 00:27:43,201
Speaker 4: she's so tiny. She's now siliac disease, and she's also

575
00:27:43,561 --> 00:27:47,361
Speaker 4: iron indeficiency and has to have an iron infusion. And

576
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,761
Speaker 4: I'm just now starting to try and understand what this

577
00:27:50,801 --> 00:27:51,201
Speaker 4: will mean.

578
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 5: So if you know, please, I've been right down this

579
00:27:54,521 --> 00:27:56,921
Speaker 5: whole thing and to the point where mine was so low.

580
00:27:57,001 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 6: He goes, you're so enemy. My hands were so white.

581
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,241
Speaker 5: He goes, I really don't know how you've got the

582
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:04,281
Speaker 5: energy to keep going your I don't know what the

583
00:28:04,281 --> 00:28:06,321
Speaker 5: scale is, but it was like four. It was meant

584
00:28:06,321 --> 00:28:08,361
Speaker 5: to be like up here somewhere, But this has been

585
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 5: going for years I was bleeding out my bum so

586
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:16,281
Speaker 5: for years on and off like and then Tommy fixed it.

587
00:28:16,441 --> 00:28:18,161
Speaker 5: And I said to the doctor, just let me try

588
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,401
Speaker 5: it naturally. I don't want an iron infusion. He said,

589
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,561
Speaker 5: you'll never fix it naturally. You can't, it's too low.

590
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,321
Speaker 5: I said, just let me try. So Tommy put me

591
00:28:25,360 --> 00:28:28,481
Speaker 5: on this regime. First I had to seal up the bleeding,

592
00:28:28,921 --> 00:28:32,001
Speaker 5: which was a real problem for I'm talking like ten years,

593
00:28:32,041 --> 00:28:35,201
Speaker 5: fifteen years. And then he sealed it up first with

594
00:28:35,721 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 5: apple side vinegar, by carbonet soda and this drink that

595
00:28:39,241 --> 00:28:41,561
Speaker 5: he made me drink every day. And then I went

596
00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:45,321
Speaker 5: on this whole iron journey for two years. I got

597
00:28:45,361 --> 00:28:47,561
Speaker 5: my blood test done, not the last one, but the

598
00:28:47,641 --> 00:28:50,241
Speaker 5: last one before that, and the doctor rings me. He said,

599
00:28:50,361 --> 00:28:52,161
Speaker 5: I don't know what you've done, but it is back

600
00:28:52,201 --> 00:28:55,041
Speaker 5: to normal. And I said, I told you, and I

601
00:28:55,121 --> 00:28:58,281
Speaker 5: just did exactly what Tommy said to do. Like I

602
00:28:58,441 --> 00:29:01,921
Speaker 5: ate the exact foods. I didn't deviate. I didn't eat

603
00:29:02,001 --> 00:29:04,361
Speaker 5: one thing outside of that. I still don't now, but

604
00:29:05,041 --> 00:29:07,401
Speaker 5: he said, I am amazed. I've never seen that happen.

605
00:29:07,481 --> 00:29:09,361
Speaker 3: Ever, that's phenomenal.

606
00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:12,721
Speaker 5: On top of that, with the iron thing, Tommy said,

607
00:29:12,881 --> 00:29:15,521
Speaker 5: do not get one, because what it actually is is

608
00:29:15,521 --> 00:29:19,401
Speaker 5: they have iron filings in the serum thing. He said,

609
00:29:19,841 --> 00:29:22,361
Speaker 5: that's why people get so sick when they have them,

610
00:29:22,881 --> 00:29:26,081
Speaker 5: is because the body can't process them. Well, sure it's iron,

611
00:29:26,281 --> 00:29:28,761
Speaker 5: but they get Some people get sick for weeks after it.

612
00:29:28,761 --> 00:29:31,681
Speaker 5: It's because the body's rejecting that. The body's not absorbing

613
00:29:31,681 --> 00:29:34,361
Speaker 5: it properly. And he said, you end up rusting on

614
00:29:34,401 --> 00:29:36,881
Speaker 5: the inside. He says, it can be a real problem.

615
00:29:36,961 --> 00:29:40,001
Speaker 4: This is what's scaring me about allowing my daughter to

616
00:29:40,041 --> 00:29:42,401
Speaker 4: go through this process. If there's a better way and

617
00:29:42,441 --> 00:29:44,121
Speaker 4: she doesn't want to do it, she just said to me,

618
00:29:44,161 --> 00:29:47,241
Speaker 4: said dad absolutely tears, and she's just sitting in my

619
00:29:47,241 --> 00:29:50,761
Speaker 4: ope and she's just She's much my world. She's just

620
00:29:50,841 --> 00:29:53,761
Speaker 4: like dad. I'd rather live with a ninety fiicient. I said, Love,

621
00:29:53,801 --> 00:29:56,601
Speaker 4: you can't. This is not an option. We need to

622
00:29:56,641 --> 00:30:00,401
Speaker 4: find a way. I'll give you a number to ring, please,

623
00:30:00,561 --> 00:30:03,481
Speaker 4: because I would be so grateful even to be able

624
00:30:03,521 --> 00:30:05,361
Speaker 4: to give her peace of mind that there is better

625
00:30:05,401 --> 00:30:09,041
Speaker 4: way and we can achieve it through this natural way,

626
00:30:09,201 --> 00:30:11,241
Speaker 4: would be so so good for her.

627
00:30:12,641 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 3: That's phenomenal.

628
00:30:13,721 --> 00:30:16,841
Speaker 4: Can I just ask you, and I'm curious because of

629
00:30:16,881 --> 00:30:19,881
Speaker 4: my issues with the bleeding over the years. And as

630
00:30:19,881 --> 00:30:21,481
Speaker 4: you do, you just put it on the shelf, off shit,

631
00:30:21,601 --> 00:30:24,161
Speaker 4: you know, like push too hard or whatever, it goes

632
00:30:24,201 --> 00:30:25,041
Speaker 4: well and truly beyond.

633
00:30:25,081 --> 00:30:26,561
Speaker 5: I like going to the toilet. I sit there with

634
00:30:26,761 --> 00:30:31,641
Speaker 5: on TikTok. You know, it's like it's a long push

635
00:30:31,721 --> 00:30:33,361
Speaker 5: and it's like, no, good for you.

636
00:30:33,081 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: No, but this is the thing. Or you get up

637
00:30:34,761 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 3: and your legs and numb because you've been hang on

638
00:30:39,241 --> 00:30:39,481
Speaker 3: for you.

639
00:30:40,681 --> 00:30:45,561
Speaker 4: I'd like to know when you started the wellness program

640
00:30:45,721 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 4: to better the situation, how long did it take for

641
00:30:48,561 --> 00:30:51,561
Speaker 4: you to I guess, stop the hemorrhaging and start to

642
00:30:51,561 --> 00:30:52,321
Speaker 4: see that shift.

643
00:30:52,801 --> 00:30:53,401
Speaker 6: Two years?

644
00:30:53,601 --> 00:30:54,561
Speaker 3: It was two years.

645
00:30:54,921 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 5: About a year to stop it all properly, yeah, and

646
00:30:57,241 --> 00:31:00,521
Speaker 5: then another year to just keep moving like that and

647
00:31:00,721 --> 00:31:02,521
Speaker 5: that's when the iron fully came back.

648
00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:04,321
Speaker 6: So it's like about a two year journey.

649
00:31:04,321 --> 00:31:07,841
Speaker 4: I reckon and it must be done according to and consistent.

650
00:31:07,921 --> 00:31:08,721
Speaker 3: There's no excuse.

651
00:31:08,801 --> 00:31:09,681
Speaker 6: You have to stick to it.

652
00:31:09,721 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 5: But on top of that, Brent, like, that's for that,

653
00:31:13,161 --> 00:31:16,241
Speaker 5: but that's for life as well. Like I want to

654
00:31:16,281 --> 00:31:19,001
Speaker 5: run an optimum every day. That's the goal I've made

655
00:31:19,001 --> 00:31:22,561
Speaker 5: for myself. In life, So that requires some serious commitment.

656
00:31:22,961 --> 00:31:25,921
Speaker 5: That's why I like, I just don't do anything outside

657
00:31:25,921 --> 00:31:28,201
Speaker 5: of my meal plan. My meal plan that Tommy has

658
00:31:28,241 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 5: done is designed specifically for my bloods. So everything that

659
00:31:32,281 --> 00:31:35,921
Speaker 5: I eat has a purpose. I don't eat conveniently anymore

660
00:31:36,241 --> 00:31:39,001
Speaker 5: if I'm not home, like summer sleeps in the middle

661
00:31:39,001 --> 00:31:41,121
Speaker 5: of the day, so I make I eat twice a day.

662
00:31:41,161 --> 00:31:42,401
Speaker 6: You don't need to eat more than that.

663
00:31:42,561 --> 00:31:44,361
Speaker 4: I've seen you put something up the other day, but

664
00:31:44,521 --> 00:31:47,921
Speaker 4: it actually looked beautiful, very green. I'm very wholesome. I

665
00:31:47,961 --> 00:31:50,321
Speaker 4: looked at Wow, I'd love to eat that. And I've

666
00:31:50,321 --> 00:31:52,201
Speaker 4: seen your fridges too. I like your fridges.

667
00:31:52,801 --> 00:31:57,601
Speaker 5: Yeah, outline, and I eat these pods. These pods are

668
00:31:58,121 --> 00:32:01,081
Speaker 5: so there's Tommy who's a nutritionist, and Mike the pod

669
00:32:01,121 --> 00:32:04,681
Speaker 5: Man who's not a nutritionist, but he's come up with

670
00:32:04,761 --> 00:32:09,481
Speaker 5: this superfood with about twenty to thirty plant based ingredients

671
00:32:09,481 --> 00:32:12,081
Speaker 5: in it, and four of those a day. You could

672
00:32:12,081 --> 00:32:13,681
Speaker 5: just eat one, you don't need to eat. I just

673
00:32:13,761 --> 00:32:15,481
Speaker 5: like them, so I eat four of those a day.

674
00:32:16,401 --> 00:32:19,561
Speaker 5: Those in themselves have so much nutrients that you would

675
00:32:19,601 --> 00:32:22,601
Speaker 5: never get otherwise, Like, surely you can't eat that much food,

676
00:32:22,961 --> 00:32:27,601
Speaker 5: But these things. They've got jackfruit, dragonfruit, algae, red algae,

677
00:32:27,641 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 5: green algae, this stuff full of protein. People say to me,

678
00:32:31,921 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 5: if you eat two meals a day, how do you

679
00:32:33,241 --> 00:32:35,361
Speaker 5: stay like that? I do take testosterone these days, but

680
00:32:35,441 --> 00:32:39,361
Speaker 5: not that much, few meals a week. But my diet

681
00:32:39,441 --> 00:32:42,881
Speaker 5: is so balanced and so regular and so consistent that

682
00:32:43,121 --> 00:32:45,281
Speaker 5: I don't waiver now like I don't. My body doesn't

683
00:32:45,321 --> 00:32:47,521
Speaker 5: go up and down like because I'm eating rubbish two

684
00:32:47,601 --> 00:32:51,921
Speaker 5: days and nothing here. So these pods are fantastic. And

685
00:32:51,961 --> 00:32:55,521
Speaker 5: then also Tommy has the only license in Australia to

686
00:32:55,721 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 5: handmake these protein powders which are gut health oriented or

687
00:33:00,721 --> 00:33:03,681
Speaker 5: they're just for gut health. So there's got like four

688
00:33:03,841 --> 00:33:08,041
Speaker 5: ingredients in them, artificial, no thicken theess, no muscifies, no flavors,

689
00:33:08,041 --> 00:33:10,881
Speaker 5: no nothing. I have one of those at ten thirty

690
00:33:10,881 --> 00:33:13,001
Speaker 5: in the morning and one of those after training at four.

691
00:33:13,441 --> 00:33:15,761
Speaker 5: That's all I eat. And they don't bloat you, they

692
00:33:15,761 --> 00:33:17,481
Speaker 5: don't do anything. They are amazing.

693
00:33:18,721 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: Are you able to give us the details of that?

694
00:33:22,361 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 4: Is Tommy okay with that or is this something that

695
00:33:24,481 --> 00:33:27,321
Speaker 4: you've got to go through him specifically having a point.

696
00:33:27,241 --> 00:33:28,481
Speaker 6: Just buying one line from him.

697
00:33:28,561 --> 00:33:31,121
Speaker 3: Oh please, if you will share, they are the best.

698
00:33:31,241 --> 00:33:33,721
Speaker 5: They are the best. And like I've I could save

699
00:33:33,761 --> 00:33:36,241
Speaker 5: people a lot of time here. But as in trial

700
00:33:36,281 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 5: and error, But you don't need as much food as

701
00:33:39,041 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 5: you think you need. You've got to obviously stay at

702
00:33:41,241 --> 00:33:44,361
Speaker 5: a maintenance level. But I just snack on a pod.

703
00:33:44,481 --> 00:33:46,881
Speaker 5: I don't eat that's so good for you. I don't

704
00:33:46,881 --> 00:33:48,441
Speaker 5: eat meat. That's the other thing I was going to say.

705
00:33:48,441 --> 00:33:51,561
Speaker 5: I cut meat out of my diet completely because I

706
00:33:51,641 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 5: eat eggs and I eat fish. Sometimes meat is not

707
00:33:55,881 --> 00:33:59,721
Speaker 5: great for you, in my opinion, from what I've learned

708
00:34:00,001 --> 00:34:03,641
Speaker 5: from Tommy, because it takes eighty six hours to digest

709
00:34:03,641 --> 00:34:06,881
Speaker 5: the meat, to break it down, so it sits in

710
00:34:06,921 --> 00:34:10,001
Speaker 5: there and your colon is like a dog's tongue on

711
00:34:10,041 --> 00:34:13,241
Speaker 5: the inside. This is from Tommy, not me. I love meat.

712
00:34:13,561 --> 00:34:15,681
Speaker 5: I loved it. I eats it a lot of it.

713
00:34:15,721 --> 00:34:17,681
Speaker 5: But it's like a dog's tongue. So when you eat

714
00:34:17,721 --> 00:34:20,121
Speaker 5: it and it sits in there, it actually sticks, and

715
00:34:20,321 --> 00:34:23,441
Speaker 5: over time it starts to write in there causes problems.

716
00:34:23,521 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 3: Ye, I reckon.

717
00:34:24,521 --> 00:34:26,361
Speaker 5: That's one of the reasons my bow got Some of

718
00:34:26,361 --> 00:34:29,441
Speaker 5: my bow got taken out because I was eating like

719
00:34:29,761 --> 00:34:33,401
Speaker 5: nine times a day, every one to two hours, so

720
00:34:33,601 --> 00:34:37,401
Speaker 5: much meat and rice. Like, mate, you don't need it.

721
00:34:37,441 --> 00:34:39,841
Speaker 5: I don't need any calves at night at all. I

722
00:34:39,921 --> 00:34:42,401
Speaker 5: only eat calves at my first meal, which is sweet

723
00:34:42,401 --> 00:34:44,441
Speaker 5: potato rice and kinwa.

724
00:34:44,841 --> 00:34:45,521
Speaker 6: There's a bit of that.

725
00:34:46,281 --> 00:34:48,401
Speaker 4: I noticed. You don't eat is it after six o'clock?

726
00:34:48,761 --> 00:34:49,601
Speaker 4: After six?

727
00:34:49,961 --> 00:34:50,161
Speaker 3: You know?

728
00:34:50,201 --> 00:34:51,961
Speaker 4: And you have your structure with your sleep and all

729
00:34:51,961 --> 00:34:55,241
Speaker 4: that sort of stuff. Do you believe in like that

730
00:34:55,281 --> 00:34:58,721
Speaker 4: intimate fasting of a morning before you then you'll have

731
00:34:58,801 --> 00:35:00,961
Speaker 4: their first meal, And do you do you drink coffee

732
00:35:00,961 --> 00:35:01,801
Speaker 4: at all? No?

733
00:35:02,481 --> 00:35:05,241
Speaker 5: Yeah, I gave up caffeine completely because it's it's no

734
00:35:05,321 --> 00:35:07,521
Speaker 5: good for you. I don't care what people say. They go,

735
00:35:07,561 --> 00:35:09,481
Speaker 5: I need my coffee, Well that's great. I need my

736
00:35:09,681 --> 00:35:11,881
Speaker 5: injection of cocaine too, but I don't have it.

737
00:35:11,881 --> 00:35:13,281
Speaker 6: It's like, it's.

738
00:35:13,121 --> 00:35:16,761
Speaker 5: True, coffee does nothing for you. It constricts your blood

739
00:35:16,841 --> 00:35:20,161
Speaker 5: vessels in your head. It dehydrates you, it ages you.

740
00:35:20,441 --> 00:35:22,681
Speaker 5: It gives you fake energy. It doesn't give you energy

741
00:35:22,801 --> 00:35:26,161
Speaker 5: at all. It band aids what your tiredness is. That's

742
00:35:26,241 --> 00:35:27,481
Speaker 5: it for a moment, but then you've.

743
00:35:27,321 --> 00:35:29,041
Speaker 6: Got to put up. People say, I don't get a crash.

744
00:35:29,561 --> 00:35:29,801
Speaker 6: You do.

745
00:35:30,121 --> 00:35:34,041
Speaker 5: Your body's got process it. Caffeine is not good for you.

746
00:35:34,921 --> 00:35:37,441
Speaker 4: And everybody does bonk, whether you understand it or not.

747
00:35:37,601 --> 00:35:41,161
Speaker 4: And the word bonk it isn't like slap slap slap

748
00:35:41,201 --> 00:35:44,321
Speaker 4: slap slap bonking as in hitting the wall like you said,

749
00:35:44,401 --> 00:35:47,281
Speaker 4: you crash. It's and I use it a term only

750
00:35:47,321 --> 00:35:50,761
Speaker 4: from doing half time stuff. Oh you're gonna bonk on

751
00:35:50,801 --> 00:35:51,601
Speaker 4: the bike, mate, if.

752
00:35:51,521 --> 00:35:52,881
Speaker 3: You don't feel your body well.

753
00:35:53,081 --> 00:35:54,601
Speaker 6: In my head, I don't want to forget out just

754
00:35:54,641 --> 00:35:55,001
Speaker 6: this part.

755
00:35:55,041 --> 00:35:57,001
Speaker 5: I used to have two naps a day without fail

756
00:35:57,161 --> 00:35:59,681
Speaker 5: in the car because my energy would run out. This

757
00:35:59,721 --> 00:36:02,521
Speaker 5: is before any of this, and I would have insomnia,

758
00:36:02,641 --> 00:36:04,681
Speaker 5: up and down in the night, snacking in the night.

759
00:36:05,321 --> 00:36:08,361
Speaker 5: I don't have any energy problems. Now two o'clock crash

760
00:36:08,401 --> 00:36:10,841
Speaker 5: doesn't exist in my life. I get to seven o'clock

761
00:36:10,881 --> 00:36:14,761
Speaker 5: at night, it's still pumping away. It's changed because in

762
00:36:14,841 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 5: here is mitochondria microbiome, sorry, in your gut, and they're

763
00:36:19,961 --> 00:36:20,721
Speaker 5: all bacteria.

764
00:36:20,881 --> 00:36:22,001
Speaker 6: Your microbiome.

765
00:36:22,201 --> 00:36:26,801
Speaker 5: How you feed it feeds your mitochondria. Your mitochondria is

766
00:36:27,361 --> 00:36:30,441
Speaker 5: motors in your cell. Every cell in your body, THEUS trillions.

767
00:36:30,721 --> 00:36:33,041
Speaker 5: Every cell in your body has thrended and twenty zerousand

768
00:36:33,121 --> 00:36:35,641
Speaker 5: in every cell. So if you've got a lack of energy,

769
00:36:36,321 --> 00:36:39,121
Speaker 5: it's like your car you put rubbish in there. You've

770
00:36:39,121 --> 00:36:42,241
Speaker 5: got your motors in your body aren't running right. As

771
00:36:42,241 --> 00:36:44,761
Speaker 5: soon as you work this out and you make changes,

772
00:36:45,041 --> 00:36:48,401
Speaker 5: you're feeding your garden properly. Your garden takes the nutrients

773
00:36:48,441 --> 00:36:51,841
Speaker 5: it feeds your motors. Your energy is back big time and.

774
00:36:51,801 --> 00:36:54,641
Speaker 3: You're running on high octa BASICAE.

775
00:36:55,001 --> 00:36:57,961
Speaker 4: I love the fact that you and people will sit

776
00:36:58,001 --> 00:36:59,561
Speaker 4: here and like you said before, you know, with your

777
00:36:59,561 --> 00:37:02,041
Speaker 4: Mike Boris interview, people pull you apart. I cop that

778
00:37:02,041 --> 00:37:04,161
Speaker 4: shit all the time. There's always someone better that knows

779
00:37:04,161 --> 00:37:10,321
Speaker 4: better that whatever. But you have a structure where you

780
00:37:11,481 --> 00:37:15,481
Speaker 4: don't have a rest day. You work, you train, and

781
00:37:15,881 --> 00:37:20,481
Speaker 4: your analogy of it is because I'm training that particular

782
00:37:20,601 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 4: muscle in that group all that day, it's got four

783
00:37:23,521 --> 00:37:26,361
Speaker 4: days to recover whilst I'm working on other parts of

784
00:37:26,361 --> 00:37:29,121
Speaker 4: my body. I love that and it makes so much

785
00:37:29,161 --> 00:37:33,081
Speaker 4: sense if you now put that into context with what

786
00:37:33,161 --> 00:37:35,841
Speaker 4: we've just discussed in reference to how you fuel your

787
00:37:35,881 --> 00:37:38,281
Speaker 4: body and how your body is receiving the recovery and

788
00:37:38,321 --> 00:37:41,521
Speaker 4: the nutrients that it requires. You're living proof that this

789
00:37:41,561 --> 00:37:44,921
Speaker 4: is actually a workable way of living.

790
00:37:45,841 --> 00:37:48,921
Speaker 5: You know why people find it hard because they can't

791
00:37:48,961 --> 00:37:51,201
Speaker 5: friggin be bothered. They just can't be bothered.

792
00:37:51,681 --> 00:37:54,201
Speaker 3: Well, people like to just follow the trends.

793
00:37:54,241 --> 00:37:54,401
Speaker 4: Tour.

794
00:37:55,201 --> 00:37:57,921
Speaker 5: Yeah, they want to eat conveniently. Like it takes some preparation.

795
00:37:58,361 --> 00:38:00,001
Speaker 5: You got to rewire the way you think if you

796
00:38:00,001 --> 00:38:01,641
Speaker 5: want to do it. Some people don't care, they don't

797
00:38:01,681 --> 00:38:03,721
Speaker 5: want to do it. That's fine. But to do this,

798
00:38:03,881 --> 00:38:06,321
Speaker 5: you've got to go get your blood done, find a nutritionist,

799
00:38:06,441 --> 00:38:09,361
Speaker 5: learn the foods, buy the foods. I buy all my

800
00:38:09,401 --> 00:38:12,241
Speaker 5: foods from a farm, ninety percent of it. They deliver it,

801
00:38:12,601 --> 00:38:15,001
Speaker 5: they keep it all, chop it all up raw. That's

802
00:38:15,041 --> 00:38:17,361
Speaker 5: all I eat, the whole thing. I won't go and

803
00:38:17,401 --> 00:38:18,841
Speaker 5: eat a hamburger. Do I want to?

804
00:38:19,041 --> 00:38:19,321
Speaker 6: Sure?

805
00:38:19,441 --> 00:38:21,401
Speaker 5: But I don't because there's going to be a cause

806
00:38:21,441 --> 00:38:23,881
Speaker 5: and effect to that. And it's like, what's the effect.

807
00:38:23,961 --> 00:38:27,161
Speaker 5: There's a cost to it. It's going to make you sluggish.

808
00:38:27,401 --> 00:38:30,201
Speaker 5: Chocolate love chocolate. I want touch chocolate.

809
00:38:31,161 --> 00:38:34,961
Speaker 3: I'm guilty. I'm guilty.

810
00:38:35,121 --> 00:38:41,281
Speaker 4: I have insomnia, so I'm prescribed pharmaceutical gummies medical me.

811
00:38:41,321 --> 00:38:42,881
Speaker 4: So I just take one at night. But the problem

812
00:38:43,041 --> 00:38:45,481
Speaker 4: is I do get a little bit sweet tooth, and

813
00:38:45,521 --> 00:38:48,961
Speaker 4: I never was prior, but it's better than taking steel knocks,

814
00:38:48,961 --> 00:38:52,241
Speaker 4: and sh'd like that to try and sleep. So you know,

815
00:38:52,361 --> 00:38:56,001
Speaker 4: I would love to personally give a go these pods

816
00:38:56,081 --> 00:38:58,721
Speaker 4: and also look a little bit more into what we're discussing,

817
00:38:58,761 --> 00:39:01,081
Speaker 4: because for me, I would like to find a better way.

818
00:39:01,481 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 4: And I can see it in you. And like I say,

819
00:39:03,481 --> 00:39:06,921
Speaker 4: I was following your journey, see your life or what

820
00:39:06,961 --> 00:39:09,041
Speaker 4: you put out, what you allow us to see. But

821
00:39:09,121 --> 00:39:12,121
Speaker 4: what I do see is a very energetic, upbeat man

822
00:39:12,401 --> 00:39:15,841
Speaker 4: who thinks very very clearly, very calculated.

823
00:39:16,161 --> 00:39:17,961
Speaker 3: But also, yeah, I get it.

824
00:39:18,601 --> 00:39:20,881
Speaker 4: You admit that you know you can be sort of

825
00:39:20,881 --> 00:39:23,001
Speaker 4: off the handle at times. You know that's that way,

826
00:39:23,041 --> 00:39:27,961
Speaker 4: and but you're running a successful company that deals with

827
00:39:28,121 --> 00:39:31,361
Speaker 4: people on all levels of emotion all.

828
00:39:31,281 --> 00:39:34,121
Speaker 3: Day every day, Like you've got to be able to adjust.

829
00:39:34,161 --> 00:39:37,441
Speaker 4: So for you, you need to stay in that year but

830
00:39:37,521 --> 00:39:40,321
Speaker 4: also in a neutral position of non judgment. I could

831
00:39:40,321 --> 00:39:42,321
Speaker 4: be having a real fucking shit of a day, yet

832
00:39:42,361 --> 00:39:44,761
Speaker 4: you're my go to guy. I've got a multimillion dollar

833
00:39:44,801 --> 00:39:47,521
Speaker 4: property at for clues that's on there, and you know

834
00:39:47,561 --> 00:39:50,281
Speaker 4: you might see a foreclosure it's happening, it's on. We've

835
00:39:50,281 --> 00:39:54,201
Speaker 4: got this, this client's coming down. Blah blah, Matt, fuck off.

836
00:39:55,641 --> 00:39:58,201
Speaker 4: But Brent, I've been working with you, you know the

837
00:39:58,281 --> 00:40:01,881
Speaker 4: last two months, I've put everything Matt, seriously fuck off.

838
00:40:02,761 --> 00:40:05,241
Speaker 4: Oh okay, Brent, Look mate, no worries about it. Look,

839
00:40:05,481 --> 00:40:07,881
Speaker 4: we'll come back to it when you're feeling better. You've

840
00:40:07,921 --> 00:40:10,481
Speaker 4: got to be able to identify that, and to do that,

841
00:40:10,681 --> 00:40:13,881
Speaker 4: you can't be in that same state like you being

842
00:40:14,001 --> 00:40:17,561
Speaker 4: the pressure cooker carrying the company everything that's going on,

843
00:40:17,681 --> 00:40:20,801
Speaker 4: because obviously with all your successes, there's definitely some lows

844
00:40:21,041 --> 00:40:24,041
Speaker 4: and I watched you just recently talk about that in

845
00:40:24,081 --> 00:40:28,001
Speaker 4: reference to a certain deal that didn't go through that.

846
00:40:28,121 --> 00:40:31,601
Speaker 3: Costs a lot of your time, effort, and money. That's

847
00:40:31,761 --> 00:40:32,361
Speaker 3: the business.

848
00:40:32,441 --> 00:40:34,441
Speaker 4: So how do you then deal with that and process

849
00:40:34,521 --> 00:40:35,881
Speaker 4: that in the best possible way.

850
00:40:36,001 --> 00:40:40,361
Speaker 3: Well, be well within you. It's pretty simple, isn't it. Really.

851
00:40:40,401 --> 00:40:43,281
Speaker 4: If you want to be the best version of yourself,

852
00:40:43,441 --> 00:40:46,121
Speaker 4: then you need to take ownership of what we do

853
00:40:46,641 --> 00:40:49,281
Speaker 4: with ourselves, what we put into our body, and what

854
00:40:49,321 --> 00:40:51,601
Speaker 4: we allow to live rent free in our head.

855
00:40:52,121 --> 00:40:52,481
Speaker 6: Totally.

856
00:40:52,521 --> 00:40:54,481
Speaker 5: And I love the same preventions better than the remedy.

857
00:40:54,521 --> 00:40:57,281
Speaker 5: You know, people don't care until they have to. And

858
00:40:57,521 --> 00:40:59,841
Speaker 5: it's just one of those things, you know, young people.

859
00:40:59,961 --> 00:41:02,121
Speaker 5: I wish I knew this when I was twenty, like, gee,

860
00:41:02,481 --> 00:41:05,401
Speaker 5: it's like but young people think, oh, I've got some time.

861
00:41:05,441 --> 00:41:07,641
Speaker 5: I don't really care. That's and it's you know, the

862
00:41:07,681 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: way it is. But you know it's not still something

863
00:41:10,521 --> 00:41:12,921
Speaker 5: happens that you sort of go, yeah, I need to

864
00:41:12,921 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 5: make some different choices. Like I've had a few people

865
00:41:15,041 --> 00:41:16,641
Speaker 5: got cancer recently and then all of a sudden they

866
00:41:16,681 --> 00:41:20,001
Speaker 5: change your lifestyle. But it's like they're made to, they're

867
00:41:20,001 --> 00:41:22,201
Speaker 5: made to. I just want to give myself the best

868
00:41:22,281 --> 00:41:24,441
Speaker 5: chance of doing it without needing to.

869
00:41:24,801 --> 00:41:27,241
Speaker 4: Well, it's a saying, and I don't know if you've

870
00:41:27,281 --> 00:41:30,121
Speaker 4: heard it yourself, but you know, nobody believes in God

871
00:41:30,201 --> 00:41:32,881
Speaker 4: until they need God, you know, and when you're your

872
00:41:32,921 --> 00:41:35,321
Speaker 4: toughest times, what's the first thing that ninety nine percent

873
00:41:35,361 --> 00:41:38,921
Speaker 4: of people do, No matter what religion or you know,

874
00:41:39,161 --> 00:41:41,961
Speaker 4: God you believe in, you pray, please God, help me,

875
00:41:42,401 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 4: police Allah or Buddha, whatever it might be, bring me luck.

876
00:41:45,881 --> 00:41:50,521
Speaker 4: We all seek to ask that higher person, you know,

877
00:41:50,561 --> 00:41:53,641
Speaker 4: if you will for that help, that guidance, that spiritual

878
00:41:53,801 --> 00:41:54,721
Speaker 4: sort of enlightenment.

879
00:41:55,241 --> 00:41:58,161
Speaker 5: You're exactly right. I chase frequency now, so when you're

880
00:41:58,201 --> 00:42:02,361
Speaker 5: on this path, your frequency raises and you can actually

881
00:42:02,641 --> 00:42:05,641
Speaker 5: access a frequency that hovers. And then when that happens,

882
00:42:05,641 --> 00:42:07,721
Speaker 5: things start to go a bit easier, bit better, a

883
00:42:07,721 --> 00:42:10,801
Speaker 5: bit more exciting. The thing doesn't happen, right, it doesn't matter.

884
00:42:10,801 --> 00:42:13,841
Speaker 5: You're excited inside. And there's a thing called the emotional

885
00:42:13,841 --> 00:42:17,161
Speaker 5: Guidance scale, which Esther Hicks has. Esther Hicks is a

886
00:42:17,241 --> 00:42:19,601
Speaker 5: lady that talks about law of attraction, followed her for

887
00:42:19,641 --> 00:42:22,441
Speaker 5: like twenty years. The emotional Guidance scale basically is a

888
00:42:22,481 --> 00:42:27,121
Speaker 5: scale that shows you where each emotion sits excitement, eagerness, joy,

889
00:42:27,281 --> 00:42:30,001
Speaker 5: all this sort of stuff. But down here is worry, fear, anxiety.

890
00:42:30,161 --> 00:42:32,521
Speaker 5: There's like a I call it in the zone and

891
00:42:32,601 --> 00:42:34,801
Speaker 5: not in the zone. I just want to spend my

892
00:42:34,801 --> 00:42:38,121
Speaker 5: life in the zone. But that's not a decision, it's

893
00:42:38,161 --> 00:42:41,241
Speaker 5: an outcome. It's like it's a result. It's a result

894
00:42:41,401 --> 00:42:44,841
Speaker 5: of how you're living. And you can't pretend to be

895
00:42:44,961 --> 00:42:47,281
Speaker 5: in the zone. But when you're clicked into the zone,

896
00:42:47,441 --> 00:42:51,281
Speaker 5: well you watch what happens. Life turbo charges literally, So

897
00:42:51,361 --> 00:42:54,881
Speaker 5: my whole focus now is. I'm just excited about the

898
00:42:54,881 --> 00:42:57,081
Speaker 5: next step, the next step. I can't wait to eat

899
00:42:57,121 --> 00:42:59,441
Speaker 5: lunch today, you know, because it's so good the food,

900
00:42:59,841 --> 00:43:01,841
Speaker 5: and it's like I feel so good after it and

901
00:43:02,441 --> 00:43:04,561
Speaker 5: I don't even want to wreck it now, So I

902
00:43:04,721 --> 00:43:06,121
Speaker 5: live live on that emotion.

903
00:43:06,321 --> 00:43:09,521
Speaker 4: You found your high, You found your high totally. This

904
00:43:09,601 --> 00:43:12,001
Speaker 4: is your drug. This is And I know people go, oh,

905
00:43:12,041 --> 00:43:12,801
Speaker 4: you can't swap one.

906
00:43:12,761 --> 00:43:15,281
Speaker 3: Addiction out for another. Well and have a seat in

907
00:43:15,281 --> 00:43:17,041
Speaker 3: the corner and have a real good think about that.

908
00:43:16,961 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: Because you do need to become somewhat addicted to what

909
00:43:21,561 --> 00:43:24,801
Speaker 4: you do with passion and drive for you to.

910
00:43:24,761 --> 00:43:28,041
Speaker 3: Succeed, of course, and if you're not, if you're not

911
00:43:28,081 --> 00:43:28,481
Speaker 3: got that.

912
00:43:28,681 --> 00:43:31,841
Speaker 5: Target fifty five, I want to be the best, like

913
00:43:32,081 --> 00:43:34,281
Speaker 5: when I say the best on the planet, like michaelh. Hearn,

914
00:43:34,361 --> 00:43:37,681
Speaker 5: he's amazing, He's like fifty eight unbelievable. But I want

915
00:43:37,681 --> 00:43:39,921
Speaker 5: to be like the top one percent of fifty five

916
00:43:40,001 --> 00:43:41,761
Speaker 5: year olds on the planet. That's what I want to do.

917
00:43:41,921 --> 00:43:42,881
Speaker 5: That's where my head is.

918
00:43:43,441 --> 00:43:45,361
Speaker 4: Can we come Can we come back into this studio

919
00:43:45,441 --> 00:43:49,281
Speaker 4: again at fifty five and have this comm No, I'm serious, absolutely,

920
00:43:49,881 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 4: I want to hold you to that. I would love

921
00:43:52,081 --> 00:43:55,041
Speaker 4: to sit down with you in what are you? Fifty three?

922
00:43:55,521 --> 00:43:58,921
Speaker 6: Fifty three? That's a week ago, Yeah.

923
00:43:58,801 --> 00:44:00,001
Speaker 3: Another two years.

924
00:44:00,201 --> 00:44:03,041
Speaker 4: Let's just dissect pull it apart and have a look

925
00:44:03,081 --> 00:44:05,161
Speaker 4: at how much of a difference.

926
00:44:05,241 --> 00:44:05,921
Speaker 6: Likely to do that.

927
00:44:06,521 --> 00:44:08,721
Speaker 5: But when you've got that north Star brandt, and that's

928
00:44:08,721 --> 00:44:10,841
Speaker 5: why everyone we're talking about purpose before. When you've got

929
00:44:10,881 --> 00:44:13,081
Speaker 5: that north Star and it is my north Star, I'm like,

930
00:44:13,241 --> 00:44:16,281
Speaker 5: I want I've got this vision of that. So every meal,

931
00:44:17,081 --> 00:44:21,921
Speaker 5: every choice, every StairMaster, this every that, it's all linked

932
00:44:21,921 --> 00:44:24,841
Speaker 5: to that. It's not just because like I just want

933
00:44:24,841 --> 00:44:27,281
Speaker 5: to eat a healthy meal, I'm linking it to who

934
00:44:27,361 --> 00:44:28,521
Speaker 5: do I actually want to become?

935
00:44:29,401 --> 00:44:29,921
Speaker 3: Who am I?

936
00:44:30,521 --> 00:44:33,001
Speaker 6: Yeah? Deep question?

937
00:44:33,521 --> 00:44:35,881
Speaker 4: Well it is and you know, to everybody out there

938
00:44:35,921 --> 00:44:38,761
Speaker 4: listening today, ask yourself that question, look in the mirror

939
00:44:38,801 --> 00:44:43,361
Speaker 4: and really really answer it. Honestly, I think that if

940
00:44:43,401 --> 00:44:45,721
Speaker 4: we could do that, and a lot of people will,

941
00:44:45,881 --> 00:44:49,081
Speaker 4: many won't be truly honest with themselves. The answers that

942
00:44:49,121 --> 00:44:51,281
Speaker 4: will come back will sit your flat on your ass

943
00:44:51,801 --> 00:44:53,921
Speaker 4: and they may be good and they may not be

944
00:44:54,001 --> 00:44:58,721
Speaker 4: so good. So then start to balance it up and

945
00:44:58,761 --> 00:45:02,361
Speaker 4: bring that to a level that is good. Like you said,

946
00:45:02,561 --> 00:45:05,241
Speaker 4: you want to be here. Why because it's good. I

947
00:45:05,321 --> 00:45:08,801
Speaker 4: love it and I feel good. What's for lunch? I'm excited?

948
00:45:10,481 --> 00:45:12,481
Speaker 4: How good is that? You know? Like you and your

949
00:45:12,561 --> 00:45:15,361
Speaker 4: German shepherd, I tell you why, you must enjoy sitting

950
00:45:15,401 --> 00:45:16,921
Speaker 4: there to get out.

951
00:45:17,641 --> 00:45:21,681
Speaker 3: I'm surprised she's not sitting on your lap because she's

952
00:45:21,681 --> 00:45:23,321
Speaker 3: everywhere with you there.

953
00:45:23,361 --> 00:45:24,681
Speaker 6: I don't know how to get hear it. She's banging

954
00:45:24,721 --> 00:45:25,081
Speaker 6: the door.

955
00:45:25,681 --> 00:45:26,521
Speaker 3: Well, animals know.

956
00:45:26,641 --> 00:45:29,321
Speaker 4: It's like children that you know, if you feel that

957
00:45:29,601 --> 00:45:33,201
Speaker 4: a child doesn't have a sense about things, than you're

958
00:45:33,241 --> 00:45:36,521
Speaker 4: kidding yourself. It's like me and I'm sure you have

959
00:45:36,601 --> 00:45:38,641
Speaker 4: hens us still walking this earth today.

960
00:45:39,321 --> 00:45:43,081
Speaker 3: Our gut instinct is what's kept us here and our awareness,

961
00:45:43,481 --> 00:45:43,961
Speaker 3: you know, And.

962
00:45:44,281 --> 00:45:47,601
Speaker 4: It's it's hard because, yeah, we can change our ways.

963
00:45:48,001 --> 00:45:49,321
Speaker 3: Does the past ever leave us?

964
00:45:49,401 --> 00:45:52,401
Speaker 4: No? Unfortunately, it will always get drawn and brought back

965
00:45:52,441 --> 00:45:55,441
Speaker 4: up somewhere along the line. Someone will at some stage

966
00:45:55,601 --> 00:46:01,041
Speaker 4: throw it back in the mix. Okay, so what But

967
00:46:01,401 --> 00:46:03,681
Speaker 4: I know who I am today. I know what to

968
00:46:03,681 --> 00:46:06,401
Speaker 4: bring to the table. I know where my purpose is

969
00:46:06,441 --> 00:46:08,961
Speaker 4: and where I want to be and where I'm growing.

970
00:46:09,481 --> 00:46:11,361
Speaker 4: I think every day and I refer back to that

971
00:46:11,361 --> 00:46:14,321
Speaker 4: one percent analogy is if I can be one percent

972
00:46:14,361 --> 00:46:16,801
Speaker 4: better today than it was yesterday. That's seven percent better

973
00:46:16,841 --> 00:46:19,801
Speaker 4: over the course of a week. Take that over a

974
00:46:19,841 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: month and a year. I'm fucking good. I'm real good,

975
00:46:23,721 --> 00:46:27,561
Speaker 4: and life's good, you know, and like, can you ask

976
00:46:27,601 --> 00:46:29,801
Speaker 4: for them much more than that?

977
00:46:29,801 --> 00:46:31,321
Speaker 6: That's it, that's all life about. Really.

978
00:46:32,121 --> 00:46:34,321
Speaker 4: I want to ask you before we sort of start

979
00:46:34,321 --> 00:46:36,201
Speaker 4: to wrap up. For those out there that listening, I

980
00:46:36,281 --> 00:46:38,721
Speaker 4: always ask each of my guests to leave something in

981
00:46:38,761 --> 00:46:39,361
Speaker 4: the toolbox.

982
00:46:39,401 --> 00:46:41,761
Speaker 3: I call it the digital toolbox, because.

983
00:46:42,681 --> 00:46:45,161
Speaker 4: Over the course of a season, we can put together

984
00:46:45,201 --> 00:46:48,241
Speaker 4: from each of our wonderful guests something in their lives

985
00:46:48,281 --> 00:46:52,601
Speaker 4: that will have an impact in others. That moment, that advice,

986
00:46:53,601 --> 00:46:57,721
Speaker 4: that something that's enabled you to be sitting here now

987
00:46:57,761 --> 00:47:00,281
Speaker 4: looking at me with that smile on your face, waiting

988
00:47:00,321 --> 00:47:02,841
Speaker 4: for lunch and looking forward to you know, what's ahead

989
00:47:02,881 --> 00:47:05,121
Speaker 4: for the rest of the day. What would you do

990
00:47:05,161 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 4: you suggest to somebody whom, for example, was Matt an

991
00:47:09,441 --> 00:47:13,601
Speaker 4: addict basically not wanting to sort of come out face

992
00:47:13,641 --> 00:47:14,881
Speaker 4: of or didn't know whether he was going to get

993
00:47:14,921 --> 00:47:18,161
Speaker 4: knocked or not in debt to the eyeballs. Yet you

994
00:47:18,281 --> 00:47:20,801
Speaker 4: got that opportunity that women come into your life and

995
00:47:20,841 --> 00:47:23,081
Speaker 4: open up a door and you walk through it, hence

996
00:47:23,121 --> 00:47:24,121
Speaker 4: you being here today.

997
00:47:25,041 --> 00:47:27,521
Speaker 5: I reckon it's the bit of advice I give people.

998
00:47:27,601 --> 00:47:30,321
Speaker 5: Is that more of parenting. Logan had a school teacher,

999
00:47:30,481 --> 00:47:34,281
Speaker 5: one school teacher he loved, loved Missus Massey Dale. I

1000
00:47:34,361 --> 00:47:36,041
Speaker 5: ended up selling a house along the line. She's a

1001
00:47:36,041 --> 00:47:39,081
Speaker 5: great person. She gave me advice that I didn't actually

1002
00:47:39,081 --> 00:47:41,401
Speaker 5: listen to, and I should have. She said, when your

1003
00:47:41,481 --> 00:47:44,241
Speaker 5: kids have a problem or are problems.

1004
00:47:45,281 --> 00:47:47,241
Speaker 6: Logan had a lot. In the end, she said, just

1005
00:47:47,281 --> 00:47:48,081
Speaker 6: never leave the room.

1006
00:47:49,841 --> 00:47:55,681
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, looking back, I probably I

1007
00:47:55,761 --> 00:47:56,921
Speaker 5: left the room you did.

1008
00:47:57,281 --> 00:47:58,041
Speaker 6: So I think.

1009
00:47:59,921 --> 00:48:04,361
Speaker 5: Great advice from Missus Massey. But I think as a

1010
00:48:04,441 --> 00:48:06,761
Speaker 5: parent I've learned just don't leave the room.

1011
00:48:08,121 --> 00:48:14,121
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I'm that's enough. I don't know what to

1012
00:48:14,161 --> 00:48:14,521
Speaker 3: say that.

1013
00:48:16,561 --> 00:48:20,561
Speaker 4: Now, you know what, Like, that's a really powerful statement

1014
00:48:21,241 --> 00:48:24,961
Speaker 4: as of relating father similar situations. And I know that

1015
00:48:24,961 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 4: we're not alone, and there's probably people out there now

1016
00:48:28,001 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 4: that are in a worse situation. Because of the way

1017
00:48:30,481 --> 00:48:32,721
Speaker 4: the life is and things have changed, and the way

1018
00:48:32,841 --> 00:48:38,001
Speaker 4: society portrays and sees certain things. It's very very difficult,

1019
00:48:38,641 --> 00:48:41,561
Speaker 4: especially if you're you're going through those moments.

1020
00:48:42,921 --> 00:48:43,161
Speaker 3: Matt.

1021
00:48:43,641 --> 00:48:47,241
Speaker 4: Thank you mate, Thanks Matte, thank you for just being here,

1022
00:48:47,361 --> 00:48:51,521
Speaker 4: thank you for being so vulnerable, so open. It truly

1023
00:48:51,601 --> 00:48:54,041
Speaker 4: is an honor, and I think that everybody out there

1024
00:48:54,041 --> 00:48:56,281
Speaker 4: will definitely be able to gain something from our chat

1025
00:48:56,321 --> 00:48:59,001
Speaker 4: today and in two years time, I'm going to have

1026
00:48:59,041 --> 00:49:01,881
Speaker 4: the greatest fifty five year old back on the Clink

1027
00:49:01,961 --> 00:49:05,121
Speaker 4: podcast because I'll still going still be the best podcast indust.

1028
00:49:05,281 --> 00:49:08,361
Speaker 5: I'll send you the details for the pot and the

1029
00:49:08,601 --> 00:49:09,721
Speaker 5: shakes and stuffy.

1030
00:49:09,441 --> 00:49:12,081
Speaker 4: If you could do that, I'd be grateful. Guys, thank

1031
00:49:12,121 --> 00:49:14,561
Speaker 4: you for listening today. I hope you've enjoyed this chat.

1032
00:49:14,681 --> 00:49:17,201
Speaker 4: Season eighteen is going to be an absolute cracker of

1033
00:49:17,201 --> 00:49:22,081
Speaker 4: a season. Stay tuned and remember one percent better every day.

1034
00:49:22,241 --> 00:49:24,641
Speaker 6: Thank you very much, mate, Thanks mate, see you later.

1035
00:49:25,001 --> 00:49:28,481
Speaker 1: Cheers for the record. Don't try and make you uncomfortable

1036
00:49:29,601 --> 00:49:31,641
Speaker 1: for the record. You ain't trying world and stuff for

1037
00:49:31,681 --> 00:49:36,001
Speaker 1: your for the record, lab on me going hard away

1038
00:49:36,161 --> 00:49:38,201
Speaker 1: for the record. Ain't trying to lenk No trying to

1039
00:49:38,201 --> 00:49:39,561
Speaker 1: wash for

1040
00:49:39,641 --> 00:49:45,121
Speaker 2: The rugged for the record, for the for the ragged,

1041
00:49:46,041 --> 00:49:49,961
Speaker 2: for the redon for the regged, for the ragged,