1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Britney Saunders and welcome to Big Business, the 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: place where business is far from boring. And today I'm 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: recording on gaddigl Land. Now I somehow manage to build 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: an empire from the garage underneath my house, and I'm 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: here on Big Business to share it all with you, 6 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: from the wins, the mistakes, the challenging times and the 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: funny moments in between. So, whether you're in business yourself already, 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: you're not in the game at all, perhaps you're looking 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: for some inspiration or you just simply want to hear 10 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: the tea when it comes to running a business. 11 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,319 Speaker 2: This is the podcast for you. 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Coming up on today's episode, we're getting a little personal 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: and talking about money. Do AJ and I take any 14 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: cuts from fate. Someone has sent me through a question 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: and it's. 16 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: Got me thinking. 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: It's got me thinking more than I thought it would, 18 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: and we kind of go down a rabbit hole of 19 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 1: thinking about what is the point of anything that we do. 20 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: It's got me questioning everything, to be honest, So let's 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: just cut to the chase and get straight into it. 22 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: I've had a great question come through in my Big 23 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Business podcast DMS that I thought, you know, what. This 24 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: is such a good question, I'm going to answer it 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: on the pod. 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 2: Curious. 27 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: Do you and AJ take dividends from Fate or do 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: you reinvest every dollar? 29 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 2: Have I spoken about this on the pod before? I 30 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: don't know. 31 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: I feel like maybe I have mentioned it earlier on 32 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: in one of my very first episodes, But to be 33 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: completely honest with you, no, AJ and I do not 34 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: currently and haven't yet, taken a cut from any of 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: the profits from Fate. And that's something that I guess 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: we do by choice. And I thought I could elaborate 37 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: on the reason why we do that, and I guess 38 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: I'll take you back to when I first started FATE 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: or even when I started my self employed journey. Now, 40 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: as you all know by this point, I worked in 41 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: a billion jobs before I became self employed. I became 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: so employed when I was twenty one, and I've done 43 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: a whole episode on every single job that I've ever had, 44 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: if you want to go and find that one and 45 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: listen to it. And I feel like a lot of 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: people people have different motivations, whether it be money or 47 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: having a great lifestyle, Like people have different motivators, and 48 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: weirdly enough, I don't think that money is my motivator 49 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: in business, even though I always call myself a cash 50 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: grabber and I have my cash Grabber's broadcast channel on Instagram. 51 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: And if you're not in on the joke, a couple 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: of years ago, I was like, I had fate and 53 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: then I think we'd started like form Our activewear and 54 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: Staple Swim. I don't know what stage it was, but 55 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: someone sent me a nasty DM and said, ugh, like 56 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: you're such a cash grabber, Like why are you starting 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: another business? And so that's where the whole cash grabber 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: term came into play, and that's why I call myself 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: a cash grabberslot. It's just been this running joke ever 60 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: since someone called me that. But even though I call 61 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: myself a cash grabber, I don't think money has ever 62 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: been my motivator. When I quit my job and I 63 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: wanted to pursue working for myself full time, and it was, 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, leaning in towards me doing the whole YouTube thing. 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: Weirdly enough, the money was never a motivator. And when 66 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: I was hopping through all of those jobs in my 67 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: late teens and early twenties, the money was never the 68 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: motivation for doing so, and you know what, Like, I 69 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: still don't think at this point in my career, I 70 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: know what my number one motivator is. You know, a 71 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: lot of people will say it's money, like I want 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: to grow this thing and make millions and millions of dollars, 73 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: but I don't, Like, yes, everyone would love to do that, 74 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I'm not motivated by money at all, 75 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: but I don't think that's my motivator. And when I 76 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: just stop and think about it now, like I can't 77 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: think of what my number one motivator is. If anything, 78 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I think my motivator might be that I'm trying to 79 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: prove something, whether it's to myself or people in my 80 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: life maybe, or it might be my inner child that 81 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to prove something to. 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is exactly. But yes, of 83 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: course everyone's motivated by money. That's what we all do. 84 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 2: We all work, we want to earn money, but it's 85 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: not the reason why I'm doing what I'm doing. So 86 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: when I. 87 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: Started Fate, I was obviously a YouTuber, and when I 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: quit my full time job to pursue YouTube. 89 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 2: Full time, I was earning nothing. 90 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: I was making just enough money to quite literally scrape by, 91 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: but at all times. I remember I was banking with 92 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: the Combank at that time, and my bank account was 93 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: always negative three dollars negative two dollars. Like, can bank 94 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: account still go into negative these days? 95 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: They can? 96 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, Like that was always my bank account 97 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: back then. It would just always be minus a couple 98 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: of dollars. And for a really long time there where 99 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: I started pursuing that you know, self employed influencer YouTuber. 100 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: I had no money, and I didn't care because I 101 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: would rather have had no money or like just enough 102 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: to scrape by and be doing something that I enjoy, 103 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: versus having a bit more money but working in a. 104 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 2: Job that I absolutely hate. 105 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: I would much rather have had nothing and be, you know, 106 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: waking up every day happy. And so then obviously, by 107 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: the time I launched Fate, I had built that you know, 108 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: having no money kind of thing into something where I 109 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: did have money and I had savings. 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: This was almost before. 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: We had all these Instagram brands, and like, it wasn't 112 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: the way that it is now. I was one of 113 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 1: the first ones to kind of do this back in 114 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: the day, and money definitely wasn't the motivator. I honestly 115 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: didn't think beyond that moment when I launched Fate. And 116 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: I've said this a million times before, but I didn't 117 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: even think, oh, where's this going to be in six months? 118 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 2: Like, I didn't have that mindset. It was just, yeah, 119 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm going to give this a go kind of thing. 120 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: And I never thought, oh, yeah, I'm going to make 121 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars in the first couple of 122 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: years or whatever. 123 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: It was just passion. I guess that was the motivator. 124 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 2: Maybe it was passion. I don't know, Sandy. 125 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,359 Speaker 1: You've got me thinking about myself here, like, what is 126 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: my bloody motivation? 127 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 3: It's funny that you're bringing up motivation because that's something 128 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: that I think has defined my journey throughout my work life. 129 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 3: And I found that for many years, the things that 130 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: I were doing because I was a dancer, I was 131 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 3: a performer, all these like kind of niche, out of 132 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 3: the box jobs. I guess now I realized I was 133 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: doing those things because my motivation was to impress other people. 134 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 2: Mmm. I'm like, is that why I'm doing what I'm doing? 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 3: Not saying that's what you do, but it's honestly, it's 136 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 3: really only been the past year and a half where 137 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: I've taken a real step back and I've gone why 138 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: am I doing all of these things? 139 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 2: What I'm thinking right now? Why why am I. 140 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 3: A podcast producer? Why am I why do I work 141 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: in radio? Before it was like, I definitely can say 142 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: it's because I wanted people to think better of me, 143 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: or that I was like achieving achieving things. But that's 144 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: not where my worth should come from. No, And you know, 145 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: I'll put this question to you, where does your worth 146 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,960 Speaker 3: come from? 147 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: That's a fucking hard question, it is. 148 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 3: I can't answer it for me yet. 149 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: No, I can't either. 150 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, my worth was my worth was in the wrong 151 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: place before. Yeah, and it's so do you know where 152 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 3: your worth is? 153 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: No, Like, that's a really hard question to answer, and 154 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: it's got me thinking as well. You now saying that 155 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: back when you were doing your dancing and by the way, 156 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: it was Irish dancing For anyone that wants to know, 157 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: I know we're always talking about you doing dancing on here. 158 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: It could be any type of dancing. It was Irish dancing. 159 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: Irish dancing, but like really good, not like Kathin Kim 160 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: top Dog. It's got me thinking as well, like you 161 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: would have to deep dive into it. But I wonder 162 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: the psychology behind me being that YouTuber and having all 163 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: those followers and feeling like you've got eyes on you 164 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: kind of thing, and then going into business off a 165 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: whim kind of thing, and then you're mentioning, you know, 166 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 1: feeling like you need to impress people. Yeah, I wonder 167 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: if some of my motivation or drive or whatever has 168 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: come from knowing that. 169 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: I have people watching. 170 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it would, And it's like a 171 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: weird motivator in a way. But then I wonder if 172 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: that's a good thing or a bad thing, because then 173 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: are people online doing all these things because they feel 174 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: like they need to continuously be impressing an audience otherwise 175 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: you'll be a failure. 176 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: I think a question that and this goes for anyone, 177 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: is in any workplace, in any business, whether you run 178 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: one or not, if you stripped all of these things 179 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: away and they were gone, is your sense of worth 180 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: still there? And is your sense of motivation to achieve 181 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: still there if these things are just not in your 182 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 3: life anymore. Yeah, And it's a really really hard question 183 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 3: to answer, and it's a really hard concept to like, actually. 184 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: Think about it, think about we've gone deep on today's episode. 185 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: We're here questioning what is the point of anything that 186 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: we are doing? 187 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, why are we doing everything that we're doing? Yeah, 188 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: that's a great question. I feel like I need to 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: do some self reflection. And I always say to Aj 190 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 4: as well, what if just tomorrow I was like, I 191 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: can't do this anymore? 192 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 3: You know, that'd be wild. 193 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we always talk about at work too. 194 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: Who was it the other day? 195 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what company it was, but just last 196 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: week it popped up on Facebook or something that there's 197 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: another company that's gone into liquidation or something. I don't 198 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: know if it was like a fashion brand or something. 199 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: They were like, oh no, like imagine if. 200 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 3: We were next Coupleway's gone. 201 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that. 202 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 3: A couple of hours of today it was announced that 203 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 3: Tuplewar's gone to bankruptcy. 204 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. I know, and that scares me too. 205 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: That's why we just have to enjoy now, because you 206 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: never know what the future may hold. What is this 207 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: episode today? We're going deep in our feelings. Anyway, getting 208 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: back to the question, you know about do AJ and 209 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: I take any money from the company. So AJ has 210 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: been with me since the very first day that I 211 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: launched Fate, AJ came to our launch party. 212 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: We had a launch party in Sydney and he's been 213 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: there ever since. 214 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: And he over the years helped me like every single day, 215 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: and then became a full time employee and gave up 216 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: his job, which was being an electrician. And ever since then, 217 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: Aj and I have never had the mentality of wanting 218 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: to build this business to make money out of it 219 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: for our own personal lives. That's never been my motivator. 220 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: And it's so fine if that is your motivator in business. 221 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: Some people want to start a business, they want it 222 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: to become super successful, and they want to reap the benefits. 223 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: They want to take all the money that you know 224 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: they can get and live a lavish lives style. And 225 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: that's so fine, Like you're allowed to do whatever the 226 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: fuck you want with your business and the money. But 227 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: for us to answer this question that came through, we 228 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: have never taken a cut from Fate yet, like yet, 229 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 1: and maybe we will. 230 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: But you do pay yourself a wage, yes, I. 231 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: Pay myself a wage. 232 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: So when I started Fate, I was still influencing so 233 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: like promoting all the skincare brands and the hair tools 234 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: and whatever. And I was very fortunate in that situation 235 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: because I was building my business and working on that 236 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: and still doing my sponsored posts on Instagram and stuff, 237 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: so that's where I made my money. And AJ was 238 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: still an electrician like in those early years, so that's 239 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: how he made his money. 240 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: Kind of thing, and you wouldn't know. It's funny. AJ 241 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: and I have never had a joint bank account. 242 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: Do you know what? Though, I respect that, and I 243 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: think that's something that is becoming more popular these days. 244 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: Is also for yourself as a woman, having that financial 245 00:11:56,000 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 3: financial freedom and financial power that is really important. So 246 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 3: I actually really respect that you haven't got a joint 247 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 3: bank account. 248 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we never have, Like we never did in those 249 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: early days when we were both doing different jobs, and 250 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: then we still haven't. Like we still both have our 251 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: own bank accounts that our pay goes into. And then 252 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: obviously now there's a bank account for the bloody house 253 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: payments that's like separate, but we still have our own 254 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: bank accounts that our pays. 255 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: Go into and that's all that's healthy. 256 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's always been that way for us. There's a 257 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: little fun fact about our relationship. And again another thing 258 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: on this topic of like, So to answer your question, no, 259 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: AJ and I have never taken like an extra cut 260 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: from our profits. So we get paid every week just 261 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: like everyone else, and that's our pay, and that covers just. 262 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 2: Our day to day life, just the essentials. 263 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: And I guess the other thing too, and maybe the 264 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: reason why I haven't taken a cut from Fate is 265 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: like Fate does fund my day to day expenses as well, 266 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: because I can put things on the company card. For example, 267 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: if I put petrol in my car, like I will 268 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: use the Fate card to do that, and that can 269 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: fall under a business expense traveling around for work and 270 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: all that, and same for my phone bill, like that's 271 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: all through the company. But in terms of us like 272 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: never taking a cart. Obviously, to get Fate from the 273 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: very beginning to where it is now, we've had to 274 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: invest all the money back into the company. And I 275 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: think where a lot of business owners can go wrong 276 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: is they can, let's say, go into business. They've started 277 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: this business and let's say it's been a great success. 278 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: In the first couple of months, it's absolutely blown up 279 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: and it's been amazing, and you've had lots of customers 280 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: or you know, lots of orders online and you could 281 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: be like wow, like look at all this money that 282 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: has has come in, you know, and it's then there 283 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: when you have that money sitting in your account that 284 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: you can choose what you're going to do with it. 285 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: You can take that money for yourself and go and 286 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: spend it on whatever it is that you want to buy, 287 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: or you can choose to completely put all of that 288 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: money straight back into the business. And by putting money 289 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: back into the business and reinvesting in your business, we mean, 290 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: for example, with fate funding our next round of production, 291 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: booking in a big, fancy phone shoot that's going to 292 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 1: bring us more customers. We use our money to obviously 293 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: pay for all our day to day things like wages 294 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: and electricity and all of our rents and everything. 295 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 3: Also like as insurance. If like there's a like a 296 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 3: low period. 297 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. I think you've got to be really careful, 298 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: especially in those early days of business, especially if you 299 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: have had a great success in the start, to not 300 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: get too excited about that money. And my mindset has 301 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: always been just every dollar and cent that we've earned 302 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 1: is going straight back into it. And over the years 303 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: we have watched our like we have multiple fate bank accounts. 304 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: You know, we have like a main account that our 305 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: online sales come into, and then for every bank account 306 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: that we have, we have a savings account attached to it, 307 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: maybe one that's structured, like you. 308 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: Earn a little bit more interest if you put money 309 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: in there. 310 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: So I would advise that to anyone if you are 311 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: setting up a business, have two bank accounts for sure, 312 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: one fee like your main money going in and out, 313 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: and another one where you maybe are saving money in 314 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: there for tax and bills and all that kind of stuff. 315 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not a financial advisor, so don't take 316 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: any financial advice from me, but set up as many 317 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: side accounts as you need, Like you might even have 318 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: separate accounts like this one's for staff pays, and this 319 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: one's for bills, and this one's for tax and whatever. 320 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: But over the years, I have watched our bank accounts, 321 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: and we have different bank accounts for all of our 322 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: stores and stuff, so the money can kind of sit 323 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: in its own little areas. But I have watched our 324 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: bank account go up and down like a fucking roller coaster, 325 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: and there has been sometimes where it gets scarily low 326 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 1: and it happens again and again. 327 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 3: Is there a link to all those times where it's 328 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: got low. Is it a certain time of year, is 329 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: it when something happened? 330 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: It definitely would be. We see a dip when we 331 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: open a new store. Yep that's when we see a 332 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: huge dip. And I've done a whole episode about that, 333 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: one of my very first episodes, and I think one 334 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: of the best ones. But I talk about all the 335 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: costs of opening a store and just how much it costs. 336 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: In the fact that you have to pay that and 337 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: kind of have six months where you've paid all this 338 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: money and you're not making any money. 339 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: I would say we've definitely. 340 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: Noticed those dips when we're working up towards opening a store. 341 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: For example, now with our Paramount store, you know, we've 342 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: kind of paid for all of our stock. We've paid 343 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: like huge deposits on our build and now we're in 344 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: that period where we're waiting for the store to be 345 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: built and we know that when we open in November, 346 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: it's going to go back up again because we're going 347 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: to start making money off all that stock. 348 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: But for now we're kind of down because of that. 349 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: But that's what reinvesting in your business is it's like 350 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: throwing money out there and hoping it's going to come 351 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: back to you tenfold. So yeah, AJ and I have 352 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:44,359 Speaker 1: definitely had some times with our finances where we've been like, holy. 353 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 5: Fucking shit, and like the bills just keep coming in, 354 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 5: And we might have a little bit of a tip 355 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 5: with one another where he's freaking out because I think 356 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 5: I'm the risk taker in our relationship and I'm like, yeah, 357 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 5: fuck it, and he's the one looking at the numbers 358 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 5: like sweating. 359 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 3: He's like you can tell that from his personality for sure. 360 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: He's a bit more logical, where I'm more just like, 361 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: let's fucking do it, like I just have no fear, 362 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: and he's the one being like, ah, like the. 363 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: Bills to just keep coming in. 364 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Also, because AJ took over paying the bills from me, 365 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: I think last year, so. 366 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 2: I always used to do it. 367 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, whatever, just like I'm playing a game 368 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: of the sims, whereas he's like holy shit. 369 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: Up until this point, we have had that mentality that 370 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: every dollar that comes in is money we are putting 371 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: straight back in the business. We're not doing what we're 372 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: doing to fund our life or live an extravagant life, 373 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: and in saying that, like, I'm so happy with the 374 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 2: lifestyle that we do have. I feel like I have 375 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 2: everything that I could ask for Sure, we could go 376 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,679 Speaker 2: on some more holidays, and I'm sure we will, you know, 377 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: in the future, but I definitely feel like we're working 378 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 2: really hard now so that we're setting ourselves up for 379 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 2: the future. And you know, hopefully in a couple of years, 380 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: I mean, am I ever going to fucking stop, But 381 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: hopefully in a couple of years we can sit. 382 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: Back and like reap the benefits a little bit more. 383 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: And we have meetings with our accountant who has been 384 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: with us since the beginning of Fate, and like, Fate 385 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: is in a position where we're profiting, which is great, 386 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: Like that's what you want to be doing in your business. 387 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: You want to be profiting. And let's say like every 388 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: year that we meet up, we meet up with him 389 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: more than once a year, but you know, once you're 390 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: going over your year from the previous financial year, he's like, 391 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 1: this is how much you've profited, you know, do you 392 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: and AJ want to. 393 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 2: Take a cut? Like I remember when was it a 394 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: few months back? 395 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: He's like, do you guys want to take a cut 396 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: and he's I'm like how much And he's like, I know, 397 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: you could take fucking like fifty grand each, one hundred 398 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: grand each night. 399 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 2: I said, for what? 400 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: Wow? For what? He's like, I don't know, you want 401 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: to give it to me? 402 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: He I literally said to him for what? Though, Like, 403 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: you know, we both have a car, we've got our house, 404 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: which we're slowly working on. 405 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 3: Do you think that this contentness and what you've got 406 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 3: comes from a place where I mean, you've been an 407 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 3: influencer and you have said in the past that the 408 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: money you used to earn as an influencer was incredible 409 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 3: and you had a lot of opportunities from that, a 410 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 3: lot of travel opportunities. Do you think this contentness with 411 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 3: what you have now is because you've experienced, you know, 412 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: another side of life that isn't normal for people, and 413 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 3: you've realized that it actually isn't everything in life. 414 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely think. 415 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: I also think it might also, in partner with that 416 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: come from a place of feeling guilt. 417 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 418 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 2: I feel I would feel. 419 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: Guilty doing that, even though that's my technically my money 420 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: through my company. Yeah, Like I would somehow feel guilty 421 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: if I was like taking these huge chunks of money. 422 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: And remember when we had Christian Whole in the studio 423 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: here recording our episode with him, and he's like, what 424 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: the fuck are you doing? 425 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 2: He's like, oh my Lamborghini. 426 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, fucking enjoy it. 427 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 2: And I so understand what he's saying. 428 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 3: And I think you're a very unique person. I don't 429 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 3: think many people if an accountant sat them down and 430 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: said you can take fifty to one hundred grand if 431 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: you want it, I don't think many people would go, 432 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 3: I'm okay, let's let's put it back in the business. 433 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 3: Ste Do you know what I mean? I think it 434 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 3: says about a lot about you as a person, but 435 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: also it says more about you as a business owner 436 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: and how invested you are within the Beast. 437 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Beast's a boost. 438 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I am very invested in I guess continuing to 439 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: grow this and I guess I have a habit now 440 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: of not wanting to take money from the company. And again, 441 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: like I, like you mentioned, you know, years ago, I 442 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: did live life as an influencer and I was earning 443 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: more money than as an influencer than I do now 444 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: as a. 445 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 3: CEO of you. You said that before, Yeah. 446 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: And again, like I could choose how much I earn 447 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: from fate. I could bump up my salary right now 448 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: if I sorry my hourly rate, I could bump up 449 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: what AJ and I get paid, and we could earn 450 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands a year. 451 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: But we don't because we don't. I don't know. I 452 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: feel like we don't. We don't feel like we need to, Like. 453 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: We're comfortable, we're happy, and I would rather all that 454 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 1: money just keep going back into funding new stores and 455 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:23,239 Speaker 1: starting new projects like Glazy and doing all things for 456 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: the for the business. So that's why we haven't taken 457 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: any cuts of profits so far. People would probably think 458 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm crazy. My accountant definitely does think I'm fucking nuts. 459 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: Every time he's like. 460 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I probably am his only client that is like, nah, 461 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: let's just keep it in the business. 462 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 2: But that's the way that we are now. 463 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: And who knows, like never say never, And that's why 464 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: I say we haven't taken anything. 465 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 2: So far, because I'm sure we will. 466 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: And it gets you thinking like why are we doing 467 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: all of this if we're not like enjoying it a 468 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 1: little bit more. And I think it's like, yeah, it 469 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: might be a bit of a guilty thing, a guilty feeling, 470 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,919 Speaker 1: And I don't know why I would feel that way 471 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 1: when this is everything that I have built. 472 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 2: But who knows. 473 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: I might take a fifty grand payout next year and 474 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: go on a holiday or something like that. But I 475 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: think it also comes down to the fact as well 476 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: that we are so happy with what we're doing every day, 477 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: Like we wake up every day and I in the 478 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: whole time that fate has existed and I've been doing 479 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: this for a job. 480 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't feel like I am working. Like I've got 481 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 2: a lot. 482 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 1: Going on, especially this time of year. We're leading up 483 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: to Paramatter and the Glazy launch and another store that's 484 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: in store that we've just signed something for. You heard 485 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: it here first. Now I've done little clues on my story. 486 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: I think we all know where it's going to be. 487 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 2: Rhymes with Smadelaide mouth Mouth Australia. 488 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: You know, we definitely feel busy, but we don't feel 489 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 1: like we're working because you know, AJ was once an 490 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: electrician and he would wake up every day so mad. 491 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: I remember when I first started dating Aj, and there 492 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: was a time like in our very early relationship where 493 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know if this is going 494 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: to work between us, because we are on two different paths. 495 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: And I was experiencing him waking up every day raging 496 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: with anger, coming home from work raging with anger. And 497 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: I remember when I was like that, when I used 498 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,680 Speaker 1: to work in full time jobs that I absolutely hate it. 499 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: But now like we're so lucky and fortunate to do 500 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: what we do. We don't feel like we have a 501 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,880 Speaker 1: life that we need a break from. I don't feel 502 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: like I need to go on a holiday to get 503 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: away from it. When we go on a fucking holiday, 504 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: we can't wait to get back because we've just got 505 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,119 Speaker 1: so much stuff that we want to do. 506 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: Hypothetical, Okay, if you took a fifty grand cut now 507 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 3: and you were like, we're going to take a few 508 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 3: months off, we're going to hand the business over to X, 509 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: Y and Z to take care of it while we're away, 510 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: where would you go and what would you use the 511 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: money on? 512 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 1: I think I would do a euro summer eurosummer, because 513 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: I've never done one really yeah ever, no, wow, yeah, 514 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: because I feel like I dropped out of school early 515 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 1: to go and work full time because that's what I 516 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: wanted to do. And then, like everyone I went to 517 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: school with they like finished school and then had that 518 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: gap year or two before UNI and that's when they 519 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: all went on the cantiques and everything, and that's when 520 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: I was like building this stuff. 521 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 2: So I feel like I just completely missed that. 522 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: Like what place in like specifically, I. 523 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: Don't even know, because there just seems to be so 524 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: many nice places to go, like Greek islands, Like I'd 525 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: like to go all around. 526 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm just going to barcelon as the best place in 527 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: the world, is it? Ye's my favorite city? 528 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: AJ really loves Amsterdam? 529 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: Oh he would. 530 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, so AJ's been twice, but I 531 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: would like to do a euro Summer And I just 532 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: feel like over the last couple of years, Eurosummer has 533 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: been become so trendy, like, oh. 534 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: That's so like post COVID though, Like twenty twenty two 535 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: was that last year? Wait? What year are we now? 536 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: Twenty four or twenty four? 537 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 2: It was twenty twenty three. 538 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, twenty twenty three. Last year was like the year 539 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: of the euro Summer. It was insane. 540 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Is it actually what it looks like on social media? 541 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: Or they're just showing the highlights? 542 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, I went to Spain and Barcelona and it 543 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 3: was insane. 544 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: I've been to Spain once, but just Spain, okay, whereabouts whereabouts? 545 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: If however you say it, I beef I beat the. 546 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: That's that's different to your summer. That's like just so one. 547 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to one spot for an event and 548 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: that was it. 549 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: No like you hear you see like the montages on 550 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 3: TikTok with like the like eurodance songs over it, Like 551 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: it feels like that when you're there, I feel yeah, 552 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 3: I like, I don't know, someone backed me up here 553 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: in the comments, but in the comment the pod comments 554 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: like it does feel like that because like there's music blaring, 555 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 3: you have margarita in hand. It just I can't explain it. 556 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: It's just like it's otherworldly sometimes when you're on a 557 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: beach in Spain, like it's just yeah, it's. 558 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: A different via. I think that's what I would do. 559 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: I would go. 560 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 1: I would go and do a euro summer. Maybe we'll 561 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: do it next year. But I feel like once we 562 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: finished renovating our house, we're never going to want to 563 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: go anywhere. Got the plunge pool, plunge pool in We're 564 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: going to be set for life. It needs to go 565 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:33,280 Speaker 1: on holidays. But we'll see, We'll see what happens next year. Yeah, 566 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: shout out to you Amy for sending that question in. 567 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: And I find people are always really intrigued. 568 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: When I talk about things like that, like money and everything, 569 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: and it feels a bit weird to talk about money. 570 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: But I think we need to normalize having conversations around 571 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 1: money and who knows, AJ and I may take cuts 572 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: from the business. I also think as well, like I 573 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: never want to seem like a wanker on social media. 574 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 2: You know how you see some people become too late sorry. 575 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: You know how, Like you see people who own businesses 576 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: or massive influences and they go from being like relatable 577 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: and then they become like super rich, and then they're like, obviously, 578 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: the more money that you come into your lifestyle is 579 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: going to change, Like that's inevitable. 580 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: Think, I think you come across real. I mean you're 581 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: laying in bed some nights with your hair pulled back, 582 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: and you're like, today was really a tough to day. 583 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 3: This is what we did. Like, like, you're not trying 584 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: to like elude people at all, whereas I feel like 585 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: some people do. 586 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 587 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I just think I've always been mindful of that throughout 588 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: my entire career on social media that I would never 589 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: want to be one of those influencers that has people 590 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: saying you've changed, you know, so I think that's another reason. 591 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: That's not a reason you have changed. 592 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: You're not earning as much money. 593 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we all fucking change. 594 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, will A J and I take some payouts 595 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: from Fate in the future. I'm going to say absolutely, 596 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: because it stuck with me when Christian Hull said that 597 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: to me, and he kind of had to go at me, 598 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: like when he said, you just need to start. 599 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: Enjoying it more read the benefits, because hey, we never. 600 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: Promised tomorrow his business did close down though it did. 601 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: You all need to listen to that episode if you haven't, 602 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: by the way, because that was another amazing episode. And 603 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: I also felt very inspired after we had Raquel Boris 604 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: in from Who was Elijah in last week's episode because 605 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: she told me how her and her husband and kid, 606 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's kid or kids. If it's kids, yeah, 607 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: they they're just packing their bags and moving to the 608 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,480 Speaker 1: UK at the end of this year. And if you 609 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: don't know what who was Elarga is, it's like a 610 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: lovely perfume brand here. Oh Xander got some freebies. 611 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 3: Yea, trust me, I'm like ab sad. 612 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: It really motivated me when she said, yeah, we're just 613 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: moving to the UK at the end of this year 614 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: in December, and I said to her, what and are 615 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: you're just going to leave the business here and she's 616 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: like yep, And she has set up her business in 617 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: a way where she could quite literally just move overseas 618 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: and it will be fine to run here on its own. 619 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: So that really motivated me as well. But that's a 620 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: whole other topic in itself, like getting out of your 621 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: business that much that it could just run itself kind 622 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: of thing. 623 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: But that's the topic for another time. Anyway, I'm leaving 624 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,239 Speaker 2: you with my tip of the week. H tip of 625 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 2: the week. 626 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: I think it should be find what motivates you outside 627 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: of your work. 628 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: That's a great bloody question. What motivates you outside of Workxander. Oh, 629 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: I'm figuring that out. 630 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 3: I'm in that process of figuring out what my worth 631 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: is outside of my achievements. 632 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a deep question. 633 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to figure that out too, because 634 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: it is really difficult. 635 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 3: It is really difficult, but I actually think it challenges 636 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: us to it actually humbles ourselves a bit. Yeah, and 637 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 3: it really puts the world into perspective. 638 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, what motivates you outside of your or like, what 639 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: is your worth outside of your achievements? 640 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 2: Because I think if I think about it, nothing. 641 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 3: That's right, you think that, But there's on something. 642 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting. Well that's the question that we're going 643 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: to leave you with. Figure it out or be like 644 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: us and have no idea. We are nothing outside of 645 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: our achievements, which mean nothing because we're going to die anyway. 646 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: All right, my friends, That is all for today's episode. 647 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: I'll be in your ears on Wednesday with a bonus, 648 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: and remember chase after your dreams as if they owe 649 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: you money. But also remember think about who you are 650 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: outside of those dreams.