1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: On Scorn Louds Australia. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: This is the reader Panety Show. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the REATA Pannecky show coming 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: up tonight. Premier disenter Alan jard at the Bush Summitt 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 3: in Bendigo. Why will locals in our own electorate fed 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 3: up with the Victorian premieur speak to doctor Joanna Howe 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 3: about the disturbing, chilling testimony of a brave nurse who 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: detailed how Australian newborns who are unwanted are treated in 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: our hospitals. We'll bring you the latest from the US 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: with James Morrow. 11 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 4: And we always leave a little time. 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 3: For lefties losing it. Even the lefties are mocking the Democrats. 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 5: The Democrats and people who prosecuted sexual predators and. 14 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 3: Joining me now a Sky News contributor prove mcswede prove. 15 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 3: Victorian Premier just Inter Allen was at the Bush Summit 16 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: in Bendigo, her electorate and it didn't go well. She 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 3: gave a lengthy speech, but then she was heckled by 18 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: locals furious with the high cost of energy and the 19 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 3: manner in which renewable projects are impacting their communities. 20 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 6: It also provides not just a more secure form of energy. 21 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 6: It's a cheaper form of energy. We're nearly at forty percent. 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 6: So how do we get excuse ladies and generains. 23 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: What are we going to do to get this sector well? 24 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Jameson of the. 25 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 6: Community, with respect to the audience, I am going to 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 6: finish that sentence. Victoria has the lowest amongst the lowest 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 6: wholesale energy prices in the national energy market. 28 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: National Senator Bridget McKenzie was also at the Bush summit 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: and she responded to Premier Allan's claims. 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 7: For the Premier to sit in this town and tell 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 7: this audience on the TV and in this room that 32 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 7: being serious about climate change means you need to. 33 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 8: Trash our ability. 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 7: To produce food in this country, I think says everything 35 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 7: you need to know about the Labor Party. If you 36 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 7: want to be a prosperous, sustainable and sovereign country in 37 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 7: twenty ninety, you're not going to do it with wind 38 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 7: and solar renewables. You're going to do it with a 39 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 7: baslow power generation that is net zero emissions like nuclear 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 7: power generation. 41 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 3: Prue. This is a huge issue in regional areas throughout 42 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 3: the country where they're not being consulted. When they are consulted, 43 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: their views are disregarded and they're having these projects inflicted 44 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 3: on their communities. And as an Australian, I don't live 45 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: in the bush, but I do travel around the country, 46 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 3: and the damage being done to the natural environment, never 47 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: mind the cost of it, is a I just wonder 48 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: if city people don't really know what's happening out there, 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 3: and once they find out, I think they're going to 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: be just as furious at the damage being done to 51 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 3: our beautiful countryside. 52 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Rita. You know, the Regional Australia. 53 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: Regional Australia has been the poor cousin of the city 54 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: slickers for so long, but it's great to see that 55 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: they're now starting to become more vocal. I mean, they're 56 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: not buying this clap trap that this government and all 57 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: the labor governments are selling, which of course is that 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: renewable story. The narrative just doesn't work. They're seeing with 59 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: their own eyes how the environment is being destroyed, how 60 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: they have been relegated to second class citizens, that they 61 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: can't even afford to produce because of the cost of energy, 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: and the fact that their farms in a lot of 63 00:03:54,960 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: cases are being decimated, you know, obtained by the government 64 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: for the environment, and then they plow through kilometers of 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: Christine Environment great agricultural land to put in their transmission lines. 66 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: So it's happening in the bush. But I think also 67 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing as we did in Northern Territory, and we'll 68 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: see in Queensland. I think Australians generally are onto the 69 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: scam and it won't be long before labor will learn 70 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 1: a very hard lesson. But of course in the meantime 71 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: they're ruining this country and the economy. 72 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: Well, I can tell you I was there in Bendigo 73 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 3: this morning. The crowd listened politely for quite a length 74 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: of time to the speech and then the interview that 75 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: we saw a little bit of there. But when she 76 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: started talking about this is a cheaper form of energy, 77 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 3: I think it was just it was all they could 78 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: cope with. And I don't blame a few of them 79 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 3: for making their feelings known because they've been ignored. This 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 3: is what what we keep hearing, that they are actually 81 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 3: voicing their opinions, and those opinions they don't care about 82 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 3: it that the city slickers come in. They've got a 83 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 3: plan and they implemented and the locals are really they're 84 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,239 Speaker 3: treated like a nuisance. Now let's go to the UK. 85 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: A woman in London is fighting for her life in 86 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: hospital after being one of three people stabbed actually Nottinghill Carnival. 87 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 3: Former Scotland Yard detective Mike Neville said the notting Hill 88 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: Carnival is the ultimate example of two tier policing that've 89 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 3: had lots of problems at this particular event over the years. 90 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 3: There's allegations offices are too scared to make arrests or 91 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 3: check for weapons at the Caribbean Carnival for fear of 92 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: looking racist. The same goes for segments of the media. 93 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 4: It has to be said, prou. 94 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: Here is a report from sky News UK last hour. 95 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 9: They've given us an update that they've made thirty eight 96 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 9: arrests and recovered four knives and they said a man 97 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 9: believed to be in his twenties has been stabbed. His 98 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 9: injuries are not life threatening, but overall it's been a 99 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 9: really peaceful and enjoyable. 100 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: Day for people, mostly peaceful stabbing Prough. I mean, it's 101 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: almost a comedy routine, but they just have got this 102 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: approach where they were treated very differently. If the ethnic 103 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 3: background of those party goers was different. How did the 104 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: UK get here? May mean this is just racist, is 105 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 3: what it is. You can call it reverse racism, positive discrimination, 106 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: it's all the same thing. 107 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 8: It's racism. 108 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: Well we're seeing it here too, Reta. I mean in UK, 109 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: of course, we've seen so much tolerance by the police 110 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: turning a blind eye to what's going on with all 111 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: the protests and they're concerned about allegations of racism or 112 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: racial profiling. They're racially motivated protests and this is the 113 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: problem that we're seeing it here in Australia and around 114 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: the world, where police tiptoe around it, and you know, 115 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: it all comes down to the question of whether there 116 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: is enough ability to integrate in these countries anymore. With 117 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: this alarming amount of immigration, the are porous borders that 118 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: people who live in the West are wondering how these 119 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: cultures are ever going to blend and live in harmony. 120 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 3: All they need to do is just treat everybody the same, 121 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: So you just apply the law and you don't make 122 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 3: special compensations for people because of their background. I mean, 123 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: that is the least we should be expecting from authorities, 124 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: including the police force. But You're right, we're seeing signs 125 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 3: of it right here Australia and should it be stamped 126 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 3: out very quickly. Let's talk about the ABC. We're getting 127 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 3: an insight into what led to the resignation of Managing 128 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: director David Anderson. The Australian reports Anderson had a difference 129 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 3: of opinion with ABC check Kim Williams over the recent 130 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 3: Four Corners investigation into the workplace culture at seven seven networker. 131 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 3: Multiple sources told The Australian that Williams expressed a view 132 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: that the episode, fronted by investigative reporter Louise Milligan, failed 133 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 3: to meet the high editorial standards of Four Corners. Mister 134 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 3: Anderson and his Director of News and Current Affairs, Justin Stevens, 135 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: thought otherwise, well, Anderson. 136 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 8: Is gone or going? 137 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 3: What do you make of this development? 138 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: Well, having seen Kim Williams in action before, I found 139 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: it really interesting and refreshing that this government appointed him 140 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: to that position because he wouldn't tolerate the nonsenses going 141 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: on in the ABC. And yeah, he was very quick 142 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: to specify what the rules the new order was going 143 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: to be and from that, of course, David Anderson was 144 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: a dead man walking as will probably some of the 145 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: so called stars of the ABC, who I think feel 146 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: that they are born to rule and that it's their 147 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: way or the highway for anyone who wants to change it. 148 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: Kim William Williams is a force to be reckoned with. 149 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: So I think it will be fascinating to see what 150 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: happens and how this unfolds. But we may be as 151 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: taxpayers starting to get more bang for our buck down 152 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: the track. 153 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 3: I think you're getting very optimistic there proof. I think 154 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 3: the ABC is by the staff for the staff, and 155 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 3: I think in the end they always get their way. Now, 156 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 3: this is a worrying story, not surprising. Afghanistan under the 157 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 3: Taliban continues to be a horror show for women. They're 158 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: now banning women from even looking at a man who 159 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 3: she's not related to, and girls remain banned from secondary school. 160 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 10: Afghan women are now banned from showing their faces or 161 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 10: speaking out loud in public, and they can't even look 162 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 10: at a man that they're not related to. It's part 163 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 10: of a new law passed by the Taliban, the hardline 164 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 10: Islamic group that has ruled Afghanistan since Western forces left 165 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 10: in twenty twenty one. The rules say a woman must 166 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 10: cover her body and face in public to avoid tempting others. 167 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 10: They also ban women from singing or reading aloud in 168 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 10: public and make it illegal for anyone to play music through. 169 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: The Taliban claim that this new set of laws is 170 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: going to promote virtue. 171 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: You know, the patriarchy is alive and well and thriving, 172 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: not just in the Middle East, which is more like 173 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: the Middle Ages as we know, but also in the West. 174 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: This oppression of these women in the Middle East is 175 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: just so distressing, but it is part of their culture 176 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: and I cannot see you know now the Western forces 177 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: left what in twenty twenty one, leaving billions of dollars. 178 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: This was Biden, of course, leaving all this million, multimillion 179 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: dollar equipment for them to avail themselves of. And we 180 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: of course are seeing here in Australia women are being oppressed. 181 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: They're being denied their actual female the feminine biological birthright 182 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,119 Speaker 1: these days. So it's alive and well and thriving throughout 183 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: the world. But you obviously feel very sad for these 184 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: women in Afghanistan, These young girls who can't go to school, 185 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: have no real future, while Talaban are in power and 186 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that America or any of the Western 187 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: countries would have the fortitude or willingness to step in 188 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: and try and change it now and prove. 189 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 3: One of the things that has always appalled me about 190 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: the feminist movement, the modern feminist movement, not only are 191 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: they not standing with women in the West who are 192 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: fighting for their sex based rights, trying to protect their sports, 193 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:29,239 Speaker 3: their areas where the we're talking about change rooms, shelters, 194 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 3: websites that might want to be women only, but they're 195 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 3: not doing anything to really advocate for the most oppressed 196 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: women in the world, and that is the ones who 197 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: are living under Islam, where they are second class citizens, 198 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: they are systematically subjugated. You look at the treatment of 199 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 3: women in Afghanistan and you don't see rallies, you don't 200 00:12:55,679 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: see efforts to put pressure on that government to have boycotts. 201 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 3: It just doesn't seem to be top of mind for 202 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: the Sisterhood. 203 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: Well, I think the Sisterhood's very selective, aren't they about 204 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: who they will advocate for, and very much pick and choose. 205 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: But you're right, the world's standing by appalled at what 206 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: we're seeing. But whether they think it's just too hard 207 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: Biden and the West tried to take on well clear 208 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: out the Taliban, but of course cut and run and 209 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: empowered them even more. 210 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: Pre McSween thanks for your time tonight. This year's Naplan 211 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 3: results revealed one in three Australian students are failing to 212 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 3: meet basic proficiency benchmarks, with nearly half a million pupils 213 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: requiring intervention to help them catch up. Joining me now 214 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 3: is the IPA's national manager of that class action program, 215 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 3: Colleen Harken. Colleen Education Unions and more than one state 216 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 3: education minister says the answer to this is more funding. 217 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: Is that how you say it? 218 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 11: No, Look, in the last fifteen years, the budget for 219 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 11: education has more than doubled, so we're at seventy nine 220 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 11: billion dollars a year now, and in that same period 221 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 11: our results have gone backwards. So a teenager, a fifteen 222 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 11: year old is now about fourteen or fifteen months behind 223 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 11: where they were sixteen years ago. So money is actually 224 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 11: clearly not the issue. What really needs to happen is 225 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 11: an address of how the teachers are taught. IPA's research 226 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 11: shows it about a year and a third of an 227 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 11: university teacher training course is full of woke decolonization, all 228 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 11: of that sort of stuff. So the teacher has not 229 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 11: been trained properly to do the job that they're supposed 230 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 11: to be able to do, and explicit teaching is not 231 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 11: being a focus. So it's the effect of money versus 232 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 11: results is not there. What actually has to happen is 233 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 11: an address of where the problem starts and that doesn't 234 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 11: cost money, that will actually save us money. 235 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: But we've known this for so long I think anyone 236 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 3: who is not a leftist activist would acknowledge the curriculum 237 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 3: is a problem. It has just been hijacked by social 238 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: engineering and politics and isn't really focused on academic excellence. 239 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: But how do we do something about it because we 240 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 3: had a supposedly conservative federal government in for decade and 241 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: didn't really do much to fix the curriculum. 242 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 11: No, and the national curriculum actually specifically states that Aboriginal 243 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 11: and Torres Straate Island's history and culture and sustainability are 244 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 11: the priorities. Yeah, it doesn't state that children learning to 245 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 11: read and write and be competent and not have a 246 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 11: third of the nation's children. Failing that doesn't sort of 247 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 11: seem to be that the message is not getting through. 248 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: And the contentious, divisive activism that is pushed onto vulnerable children, 249 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: impressionable children, often with their parents really ignorant. A lot 250 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 3: of parents don't know what's happening in the classroom. Of 251 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 3: course they speak to their kids. I might see the 252 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: homework they're doing, but the day to day content of 253 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 3: their curriculum. I think a lot of people would be 254 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 3: shocked by just how political it is when you'd expect 255 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: them just to be taught facts and how to think 256 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 3: about things critically rather than what to think. 257 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 258 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 11: Absolutely, most parents would be quite unaware of what their 259 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 11: children are being taught. And that's because what they call 260 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 11: the cross curriculum priorities, that it is mandated that there's 261 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 11: no subject that's called ideology or colonization or climate emergency, 262 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 11: but it's embedded into every subject, at every year level, 263 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 11: at every opportunity. And no young child is going to 264 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 11: come home and say, I learned how to count today 265 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 11: through aboriginal dance. But that's actually what's happening. And the 266 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 11: parents who do, who are alluded to this, are actually 267 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 11: finding out after the damage has already been done, When 268 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 11: young children as young as five and six are going 269 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 11: home crying about the Stolen Generation, for example, and they've 270 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 11: been taught that within reading or within equity inclusion and 271 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 11: all these sorts of things. So it's highly politicized, or. 272 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: They're needing psychological care because they have climate anxiety. I've 273 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: spoken to child's psychologists about this. They actually treat kids 274 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 3: who should be well. They are the most privileged, luckiest 275 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 3: kids in the world really to be living in Australia 276 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 3: at a time of peace and prosperity, but their mental 277 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: health is damaged because they're basically told the world's ending 278 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: and them and everyone they love is going to die. 279 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 12: It is just. 280 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 3: I mean, it's borderline child abuse if you ask me. Now, 281 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 3: I want to ask you about this University of Melbourne 282 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 3: study that has found some classroom layouts, including the very 283 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: fashionable open classroom model, well it's apparently negatively affecting literacy. 284 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 3: The lead researcher, Professor Gary Rand, said he was shocked 285 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 3: by the strength of the findings and the clear difference 286 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 3: in academic achievement between the two settings. So sixty five 287 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 3: percent of the kids developed their literacy at a faster 288 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: rate when they were in an enclosed classroom. So the 289 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 3: results were very really quite striking and surprising. He said, 290 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 3: this is pretty compelling data. What percentage of classrooms do 291 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 3: we know are this open plan model? Because I know 292 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 3: it is fashionable and popular. 293 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, so it's a i'll call it a fad that's 294 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 11: been around for decades and it's based on an allegiance 295 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 11: to a flawed ideology that children are actually the masters 296 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 11: of their own learning. So this inquiry learning sort of 297 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 11: scenario where you sit around in groups and there might 298 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 11: be multiple groups and multiple classrooms. Some of these classrooms 299 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 11: have up to one hundred children Oh great in them, 300 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 11: and I mean we've all been in busy restaurants and 301 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 11: shopping centers that make it very difficult to hear, and 302 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 11: how exhausting that is, and how exhausting it is to concentrate. 303 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 11: And what's really interesting is most of these open playing 304 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 11: classrooms are found with young children whose auditory skills are 305 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 11: still developing and they don't even yet have the language 306 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 11: skills to fill the gaps if they didn't hear. So 307 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 11: that research has there's been you know, research previously, but 308 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 11: that's a Melbourne based one and again it reinforces the 309 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 11: fact that these environments are not helpful to the children 310 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 11: in those classrooms. 311 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, this whole student led teaching is recipe for failure. Now, 312 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 3: a review into the future of Victoria's into school sporting 313 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 3: program is underway, aiming to shift the focus away from 314 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: year round team sports and competitions things like football and rowing, 315 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 3: and instead focus more on things like yoga and plati is. 316 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: The Associated Public c School's sporting program is seeking to 317 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: remove heightened senses of competition amongst private schools by embracing 318 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: more recreational sports and activities. Calling this one has got 319 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: parents at private schools fired up like nothing else. What 320 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: do you make of this? 321 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 11: And understandably because parents who choose to send their children 322 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 11: to an independent school they know well ahead that Saturday 323 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 11: morning sport is part of the deal. And it's been 324 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 11: known for a long time sporting activity is good for 325 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 11: mental health and physical health, and that there's a lot 326 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 11: to be learned from competitive sport, resilience, team effort, failure, 327 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 11: all of those sorts of you know, good skills, expl 328 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 11: turning up to correcting, being on the getting out of bed, 329 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 11: no off you go. So they're all terrific skills. But 330 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 11: what this is really interesting is it's an example of 331 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 11: another breakdown of social cohesion, because what these schools do 332 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 11: very well is build a sense of positive community spirit. 333 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 11: Children who go out of these schools love to represent 334 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 11: their school. Where there's school colors, they go and support 335 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 11: each other. You see it all the time in the 336 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 11: people don't like to refer to it, but the old 337 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 11: boys they love it right. So they're building a positive 338 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 11: framework about their community. And this is just an example 339 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,679 Speaker 11: of breaking down that social cohesion. 340 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 3: I just do not see the upside. I don't know 341 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: why they would even contemplate this. There's a plenty of downside. 342 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: And you know, at the end of the day, if 343 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: there's a particular kid who doesn't want to participate, then 344 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 3: that's a choice the family can make. But like you said, 345 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 3: you send your kids to these schools partly because of 346 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: the sporting programs and everything that brings to a child's life. 347 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 3: Colleen har Can thank you so much for your time. 348 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 3: It's no problem still to come. Left is losing it 349 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: and lies, damn lies, and the Democrats. James Morrow will 350 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: be here to unhappily later to make. 351 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 8: Years welcome back. 352 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 3: Now it's time for lefties losing it. Let's start lefties 353 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 3: with a little frivolity, and you know, despite the North 354 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: Korean style media campaign, the Democrats are in trouble when 355 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,919 Speaker 3: even John Stewart is mocking the DNC and he's lefty 356 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: crowd are lapping it up. 357 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: They had a guy yelling screw the billionaires. 358 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 13: Followed immediately by a very happy billionaire. 359 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: It's all okay. 360 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 10: If it's our billionaire. 361 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 3: They had guys. 362 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 10: Making fun of people for going to Yale, and a 363 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 10: bunch of people who. 364 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 3: Went to Yale. 365 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 13: The Democrats had people who prosecuted sexual predators. 366 00:22:54,119 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: And that was actually funny. I'm as shocked as anybody now. 367 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what this next clip is, but I 368 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: find it weird and wrong. Can we stop trying to 369 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 3: sexualize kids? Just who is this aimed at? 370 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 8: I am gay? Are your name? And if not, would 371 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 8: you like to. 372 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 14: Try to be gay? 373 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: We're taking new applications and it's really fun. 374 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 14: You get magical powers and free honey buns. Your mom 375 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 14: is gay and so is your dad. 376 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 10: If you're not gay, it's. 377 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 3: Really too bad, weird, weird. You'll remember the infamous reporting 378 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 3: from CNN claiming that the BLM riots were fiery but 379 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: mostly peaceful. What's more, peaceful than entire buildings destroyed. But 380 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: over in the UK they are also borrowing from this playbook. 381 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 9: And in the last hour they've given us an update 382 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 9: that they've made thirty eight arrests and recovered four knives, 383 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 9: and they said a man believed to be in his 384 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 9: twenties has been stabbed. His injuries are not life threatening, 385 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 9: but overall it's been a really peaceful and enjoyable date. 386 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: Mostly peaceful and enjoyable. Stabbings wonderful, and guess what, there 387 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 3: are a couple more stabbings later that day. Now to 388 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 3: more words lefties losing it want to ban by deeming 389 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 3: them racist akin to using the N word. It won't 390 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: surprise you that the list is utterly ridiculous and designed 391 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 3: to protect race bats and DEI advocates from criticism. 392 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 15: Ten ways you say the N word without seeing the 393 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 15: N word. If you use any of these terms or 394 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,959 Speaker 15: phrases in reference to black people, you are just as 395 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 15: racist as the person that actually uses the N word. 396 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 15: Here are the words doug, ghetto, welfare, queen, lazi, spader, 397 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 15: race scrifter, threatening, angry, dangerous, or you say that we're 398 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 15: playing the victim, or we are a diversity higher. What 399 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 15: you actually mean to say is the N word. Just 400 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 15: stop it. If you say these words are phrases, you 401 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 15: were calling us the N word. If you say these 402 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 15: ignorant racist terms or phrases around your children, you're also 403 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 15: teaching your children to be racist, just like you. 404 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 3: Now, more lefties losing it with my next guess. We 405 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 3: heard a lot of lies of the DNC, from Biden 406 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 3: repeating the fine People hoax again, to Kamala's Pinocchio performance, 407 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 3: to Michelle Obama telling the crowd Trump wants to outlaw IVF, 408 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: but Trump seems to climb. 409 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 7: Otherwise taking away our freedom to control our bodies, the 410 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 7: freedom to become a mother through iv F, Like I. 411 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 5: Did, we want to make it easier for mothers and 412 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 5: families to have babies, not harder. That includes supporting the 413 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 5: availability of fertility treatments like IVF in every state in America. 414 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 5: Like the overwhelming majority of Americans, including the vast majority 415 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 5: of Republicans, Conservatives, Christians, and pro life Americans, I strongly 416 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 5: support the availability of IVF for couples who are trying 417 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 5: to have a precious baby. 418 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 3: Joining me now is Guy News, host of The US Report. 419 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 3: Am I Outsider's co host James Morrow. James, there was 420 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 3: a great deal of victriol at the Democratic National Convention, 421 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: a lot of lies. But what sort of a boost 422 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: did it give the Democrats? And who do I believe there? 423 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 3: Because I'm hearing two very different accounts about the Republican 424 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 3: stance on IVF and Donald Trump's stance on IVF. 425 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 2: Well, you know, Donald Trump laid it out right there. 426 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: And there's this whole thing that the Democrats are trying 427 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 2: to lean into, this idea that the Republicans have some 428 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: whole plan to ban abortion, that Donald Trump's a huge 429 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,479 Speaker 2: social conservative on that score. I mean, if you look 430 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 2: at Donald Trump in his personal life, you know, I 431 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 2: just don't think that he's a kind of a medal 432 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 2: in the bedroom with government kind of guy. But the 433 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 2: thing is that the Democrats, they are leading very much 434 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 2: into the whole abortion reproductive rights issue simply because for them, 435 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: they've decided to rebrand themselves as a party of freedom. 436 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 2: And yet this is literally the only thing where they 437 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: want to remove restrictions on anything. You know, the Democrats 438 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: are all about creating new rules, new bureaucracies, new restrictions 439 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 2: on all sorts of human activities. I mean, you know, 440 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 2: right down to you know, the showerhead you use and 441 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: what you use to cook your food and what car 442 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: you drive to work and all of this sort of thing. 443 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: So there's a real double game they're playing there. And 444 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: the thing is they can get away though, with these 445 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: sort of lives about what the GOP platform is because 446 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: they are not being fact checked on this at all. 447 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: The President care the press is carrying water for them, 448 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 2: and they say, oh, well, you know, like whatever, our 449 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: job now is to get Harris over the line. 450 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: That seems to be the number one priority for the 451 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 3: overwhelming majority of the US media. They're not even shy 452 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 3: about it. It's North Korean style antics. Really, it's this 453 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 3: sort of thing you would expect from state media in 454 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 3: North Korea. Now let's talk about Robert F. Kennedy endorsing Trump. 455 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: I'm still unsure about what this will mean for the 456 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: Trump campaign, and I don't think you can expect to 457 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:33,479 Speaker 3: see all his supporters simply switching to Trump. Maybe I 458 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 3: know some of them won't even bother voting. But before 459 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 3: I get your analysis, let's listen to Kennedy explain why 460 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 3: he left the Democrats. 461 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 14: It'll become the Party of war, censorship, corruption, big farmer, 462 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 14: big tech, big egg and big money. Wanted abandoned democracy 463 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 14: by canceling the primary to see you that I decline 464 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 14: of the sitting president. I left the party. 465 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: The Party of war, censorship and corruption. James, what impact 466 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 3: will Kennedy's endorsement have, Well. 467 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: I think what it's going to do. The analysis that 468 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: I've seen shows that Kennedy voters will probably break about 469 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 2: three to two for Trump. So there's a small boost 470 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,239 Speaker 2: there in some of those swing states. It could make 471 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: quite a difference, of course, because you know, it's like 472 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 2: with our marginal electorates in Australia. You know, this is 473 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: this is where it actually matters. It's not about the 474 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 2: popular votes but getting over the line in different states. 475 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 2: But what Kennedy said there was a complete break with 476 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, and I think the diagnosis that he 477 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: made was largely correct. I mean it is, as I 478 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 2: suggest before, the Democrats, who really are all about, you know, 479 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 2: controlling the narrative, controlling the media, controlling social media, controlling 480 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 2: what people can say, controlling what people can think. You know, 481 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: whether it's through wokeness and political correctness in HR or 482 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 2: whether it is through more sinister things you've seen, like 483 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 2: you know, the way the White House worked with Twitter 484 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: before it was owned by Elon Musk and Facebook to 485 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: dial down stories that were unflattering to the Biden family 486 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 2: and stories about COVID and things like that. You know, 487 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 2: so Kennedy is really right there. I mean, he's basically 488 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: taking a kind of a libertarian position possibly on some things, 489 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 2: will be you know, further out there on a lot 490 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: of other things. But you know, like I kind of 491 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: not hugely bothered by that because he's not doesn't have 492 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: an official position. He's throwing his support to Trump. And 493 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: if you want to talk about Bonker's positions, just look 494 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: at the Democrat Party platform, which Kamala Harris has inherited. 495 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: Well, look at her VP pick and his track record 496 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: never mind hers. But again, the media uninterested in really 497 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 3: scrutinizing any of that. In fact, they've gone out of 498 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: their way to rebrand Kamala as some amazing leader when 499 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: a couple of months ago she was the problem. She 500 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: will one of the Biden Whitehouse's biggest problems. 501 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 8: How long will. 502 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 3: This honeymoon last? Though, because there has to be a 503 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: point where you would hope that questions would be asked 504 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 3: about her track record, her performance, what she really stands for, 505 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 3: because we're getting again this play where she's the tough prosecutor, 506 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 3: But then we know the state of California and law 507 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 3: enforcement there and the impact she had whilst she was 508 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: a g So, I mean, that's at odds with her 509 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: being a law and order figure. How are they going 510 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 3: to bamboozle the American people all the way to November. 511 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: Well, they're using the vibe. This is all politics of 512 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 2: the vibe. It is the vibe of the thing, as 513 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: we say in Australia. Know, this is the thing. They 514 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 2: are basically actively avoiding doing anything that might break this 515 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: spell of you know, joy and the other people are weird, 516 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 2: you know, and all this kind of mean girl in 517 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 2: group high school politics, which is basically what it comes 518 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 2: down to what they're trying to practice here. It's now 519 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 2: I think was it's the twenty twenty sixth of August. 520 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 2: They had said a couple of weeks ago that Kamala 521 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: Harris would do would do a sit down interview by 522 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: the end of the month. Well, the end of the 523 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 2: month is coming up on us fast. I don't see 524 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 2: the media much except for a few people really baying 525 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 2: for that sort of scrutiny. I don't think they want 526 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: to give her that scrutiny because Kamala Harris as soon 527 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 2: as she starts to talk off script, you know, and 528 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 2: has to start defending things, and we're talking about things like, 529 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: you know, price controls. She floated that the other day, 530 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: taxes on your unearned or unrealized capital gains, which is bonkers, 531 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: higher corporate taxes, and a lot of stuff in the 532 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: DNC platform, including things like basically a huge amnesty program 533 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 2: for illegal aliens to get them to become eventually citizens. 534 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 2: And you'd assume Democrat voters she's gonna have to own 535 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: all that, she's gonna have to answer to that. She's 536 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 2: also running away from debates. I don't even know that 537 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: if they're going to wind up doing one with Trump 538 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 2: now when Trump and I think agreed to three with Biden. 539 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 2: So that's where we are. Early voting is going to 540 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 2: start in some of these states soon. So this is 541 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 2: really it's just you know, our last quarter of the game, 542 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: running out the clock, hoping that they can get over 543 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: the line. But it's really sinister, and really, these are 544 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: the people who keep banging on about threats to democracy, right, Well, 545 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't see them really engaging with this in the 546 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 2: spirit of democracy at all. 547 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: Well, they invalidated fourteen million votes when they installed Kamala 548 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: and yeah, ran Biden out of town. So that's a 549 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 3: pretty big threat to democracy right there, undermining the democratic process. Now, 550 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: you mentioned fact checking sites and how they take the 551 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 3: day off whenever the Democrats say something, and that's seems 552 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 3: to be the case here with PolitiFact insisting that Donald Trump, 553 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: well haven't taken a day off. They've gone out of 554 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: their way to find something false that is actually true. 555 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 3: They're saying that Donald Trump is false to assert that 556 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris ever supported abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement 557 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 3: ICE as we call it, but even CNN reported on 558 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 3: her support for that in twenty eighteen. 559 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 13: Have a look a bol of schase. This is a 560 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 13: refrain that we've heard increasingly from your democratic colleagues, some 561 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 13: even potential twenty twenty contenders, like Bernie Sanders, Senator Kamala Harris, 562 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 13: Senator Elizabeth Warren, Senator Kirsten Jill Brann. They've all called 563 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 13: to a ball of shade. 564 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 3: Who is fact checking the fact checkers. But this is 565 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: a case with a range of policies, isn't it. James fracking, 566 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 3: for example, which is a massive issue in the crucial 567 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: swing state of Pennsylvania. She was on the record, there's 568 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 3: so many videos of her saying I would ban fracking 569 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 3: on day one, and now apparently she's done a complete Again, 570 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 3: is that credible? 571 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 2: Well, it's not credible. And you know, Rita, there's another 572 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 2: example of this. We had this a couple of weeks 573 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: ago when everybody was saying, you know, Kamala Harris, you 574 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: were the borders are. Joe Biden named you the borders are. 575 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: Your responsibility was to deal with stuff with the southern border. 576 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: She never went and visited the southern border. And then 577 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 2: you know, once she started getting caughd all that you 578 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: suddenly had the press go in on a full court 579 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: press sect. Oh no, no, no, no, she was never 580 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 2: the borders are. When thankfully the internet hasn't gone full 581 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four yet and you can still go back 582 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 2: and find you know, all the same ount let's end 583 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 2: mecc and then all these guys say, you know, Kamala Harrison, 584 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 2: name borders are by Joe Biden. You this back in 585 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty or twenty one, and then of course she 586 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:50,399 Speaker 2: absolutely nothing. Remember Rita when she was asked about why 587 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 2: she hadn't been to the border that time, and she said, well, 588 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 2: I've never been to Europe either. I mean, this is 589 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,360 Speaker 2: you know, like, this is what we're dealing with. That's why, 590 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 2: that's why they don't want to put her in front 591 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 2: of the press. But the press also doesn't want to 592 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 2: have her put in front of them because they might 593 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 2: actually have to ask a hard question. 594 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 3: Well, the press, you would think, would least try to 595 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 3: be a little bit more balanced after the debarcle of 596 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: well being exposed about lying about Biden's cognitive decline, because again, 597 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: for three and a half years, if not more, they 598 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,280 Speaker 3: presented any doubts about Biden's cognitive abilities as right wing 599 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 3: conspiracies and disinformation and a threat to democracy until that 600 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 3: infamous debate where suddenly, for about two weeks, actually did 601 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,720 Speaker 3: their job. Now I want to ask you about piece 602 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: he wrote that has inspired a fairly bizarre response I 603 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 3: would say from the editor of New Matilda, Chris Graham, 604 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 3: he is a taking issue with your piece on Labour's 605 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 3: immigration policy, where you use data from the IPA to 606 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 3: illustrate how labor is bringing in a tsunami of migrants 607 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: one point one five million since they took power under 608 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,720 Speaker 3: a Big Australia by stealth program, he wrote. Chris Graham wrote, 609 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 3: the author of the IPA report is a man named 610 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 3: doctor Kevin You and speaking of you, if you like me, 611 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:26,720 Speaker 3: saw that surname and thought to yourself, hmmm, you sound 612 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 3: pretty migranty to me. You'd be correct. He's a photo 613 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 3: of doctor You. He's from South Korea, Nolvy in Sydney. 614 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 3: And here's a bonus punchline. The author of the Daily 615 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 3: Telegraph story is their national affairs editor James Morrow. 616 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 8: Morrow is also an immigrant. 617 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 3: Well this is very interesting, James. I think I knew 618 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 3: Matilda seemed to think migrants to this country are obligated 619 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 3: to support open borders Big Australia. 620 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: What sort of I mean, Rita. They you know they 621 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 2: caught me out here, yes, oh you know you couldn't 622 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: tell me my voice in constant talking about New York 623 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 2: that I actually don't come from here. But you know, 624 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 2: this was a really bizarre hit, or attempted hit by 625 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: these guys, because if you think about it, you know 626 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 2: what is the left always say, oh, well, you know, 627 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 2: we're all immigrants to this country, you know, unless we're 628 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: you know, Aboriginal or indigenous. You know, we're all migrants 629 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 2: to this country, and so we don't really have any 630 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 2: sort of standing here. And then suddenly it's sort of 631 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 2: like they're running the whole. You know, we grew here, 632 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,319 Speaker 2: you flew here. Line on myself and the doctor from 633 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: the IPA who did the numbers, they can't, by the way, 634 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 2: RITA criticize the numbers. The numbers are one hundred percent 635 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,879 Speaker 2: spot on that more migrants have been brought in under 636 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 2: this term of government than in any other previous term 637 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: of government, you know, in a century. So the numbers 638 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 2: are completely correct. So what do they do on the left, Well, 639 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 2: they attack the person who's saying it, and they say, well, 640 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 2: you don't have the right to talk about that because 641 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 2: you're a migrant. Well i'll tell you something. The reason 642 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 2: why reader, I talk about migration and a lot of 643 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: other issues in this country and involved and I'm involved 644 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: in public life here is because I'm a migrant and 645 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: I love this country and I want to keep it 646 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: great and I want to see him become greater. 647 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: Well, It's such a lefty tactic, isn't it. 648 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:24,920 Speaker 2: Total. 649 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 3: Don't dispute the data, just say you're not allowed to 650 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 3: hold that opinion because, like you said, you flew here, 651 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 3: I a grew here about it. Just the most bizarre piece, 652 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 3: James Morrow, thank you for your time this evening. 653 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: Thanks reader. 654 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 3: Coming up next, chilling testimony from a brave midwife blowing. 655 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 4: The whistle on I want to Babe's. 656 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 8: Blow in my life. 657 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:01,080 Speaker 3: You're watching the reader Penny show my next topic. Distressing 658 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 3: to some viewers. A parliamentary hearing in Queensland heard horrific 659 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 3: accounts from a courageous midwife who explained what happens when 660 00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: unwanted babies are born alive. 661 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 12: To give you a first example, a mother made a 662 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 12: decision to a born a baby at twenty one plus 663 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 12: week's gestation. The process began in the morning with music 664 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 12: prostyl given throughout the day. The process took all day 665 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 12: and the baby was only delivered early hours of the 666 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 12: night shift where skeleton staff was on. 667 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 3: Judy Louise Atseatt, who is a clinical midwife and has 668 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: worked in maternity and birthing units for around fourteen years, 669 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 3: also told the hearing about how babies cling on to 670 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 3: life for hours, receiving no medical assistance to save their 671 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,399 Speaker 3: lives or to alleviate their pain. 672 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 12: This baby moved vigorously, gasp for breath and had a 673 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 12: palpable heart rate. To make it clear, this baby was 674 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 12: alivee it was over four hundred grams, so the baby 675 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 12: was a good way the parents of us to not 676 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 12: desire to see or hold this baby. Midlis and doctors 677 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 12: were left holding this little life while it continued to 678 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 12: While they continue to provide cares for other women we're 679 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 12: birthing and walking them babies into the world. This baby 680 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 12: boy fought for his life for five hours before taking 681 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 12: his final breath. This is not uncommon occurrence. 682 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,360 Speaker 3: Five hours, five hours. The inquiry into Babies Born Alive 683 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,880 Speaker 3: was looking into enthrining legislative protection for babies to survive abortion, 684 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 3: either in the form of palliative care for those who 685 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 3: will not live long or medical care for those who will. 686 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 3: Joining me now, as professor of law at the University 687 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 3: of Adelaide, doctor Joanna Howe, doctor how that testimony is harrowing. 688 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 3: It certainly moved United Australia Senator Ralph Babbett to introduce 689 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: an urgency motion asking Senators to vote on the importance 690 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 3: of medical care for babies who survive abortion, but it 691 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 3: was defeated. 692 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 16: It's unbelievable, reader, thirty two votes to eighteen that was 693 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 16: voted down, which tells you something about the quality of 694 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 16: people that are in our Senate. Universally unanimously, Labor and 695 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 16: the Greens voted against that motion, and it was a 696 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 16: simple motion. 697 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: It was a motion that. 698 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 16: Said, if a baby is born alive after an abortion, 699 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,319 Speaker 16: they should be entitled to equal protection under the law. 700 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 16: So it is absolutely it's just disturbing, Like, I actually 701 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 16: can't understand how anybody, any Australian could vote against emotion 702 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 16: calling for equal treatment for those children, especially after the harrowing, groundbreaking, 703 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 16: courageous testimony of Louise ad Set the day before, who 704 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:48,879 Speaker 16: blew the lid on this whole thing. 705 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,720 Speaker 4: Well, why aren't we seeing other midwives, nurses, doctors speaking 706 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 4: out if this is happening regularly, and surely Moore would 707 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,720 Speaker 4: be speaking out. 708 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 16: Reader, they can't. So Louise ad Set had parliamentary privilege. 709 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 16: She was she was giving evidence to a parliamentary inquiry 710 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 16: in Queensland, and so an employer can't take punitive action 711 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 16: against you for something you say to a parliamentary inquiry, 712 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 16: but any other midwife who speaks out about this will 713 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,960 Speaker 16: lose their job. That is just the reality of this. 714 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 16: Immediately after Louise gave that extraordinarily brave testimony, doctor Alicia 715 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 16: Broom from the same hospital, who's an obstrician, gave evidence 716 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,360 Speaker 16: to the inquiry saying babies are not born alive and 717 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 16: left to die, so essentially disputing the very credibility of 718 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,799 Speaker 16: this incredibly brave midwife who came forward to say this. 719 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 16: The reality is the peak bodies ranscog Ama. They're all 720 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 16: lined up, and any midwife or nurse who's on the 721 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 16: ground dealing with these babies who are gasping for air, 722 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 16: who are struggling to breathe, who are left on metal 723 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 16: plates for up to hours, these midwives and nurses are 724 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 16: not protected. But I have now, since Luiz gave that testimony, 725 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 16: I've actually had five more midwives come to me and 726 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 16: to speak to me about this. So I'm going to 727 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 16: be airing these on my YouTube, but I'm going to 728 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,440 Speaker 16: have to disguise their voice and their face because otherwise 729 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 16: who knows what will happen to them. So you know, 730 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 16: this is a tragedy occurring under our very noses in 731 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,919 Speaker 16: our hospitals every single week in this country. It has 732 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 16: to be fixed. We do need more people to come forward. 733 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 16: But the reality is the medical profession is not safe 734 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 16: for people like Louise to talk about this in ordinary life, 735 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 16: to people like you and me on camera. It just 736 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 16: won't protect them because this is legal, and you can 737 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 16: only blow the whistle on stuff that's not illegal, and 738 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 16: so so sorry, it can only blow the whistle on 739 00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 16: things that are illegal. And the reality is it is 740 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 16: legal in our country and it happens once every seven 741 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 16: days that a baby is born alive and left to 742 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 16: die with our right to medical care. 743 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 3: The nurses you've I've spoken to the midwives that have 744 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 3: come forward since Louis's testimony. Are they also in Queensland? 745 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 3: What have they told you? 746 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:11,560 Speaker 8: So? 747 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 16: I've had one come forward from Victoria and the others 748 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 16: are from Queensland and they have told me about these 749 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 16: little babies who are born and one of them actually 750 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 16: offered to adopt the baby, and she fought with the 751 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,879 Speaker 16: people above her to say, look, I want to take 752 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 16: care of this baby. This baby can live and she 753 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 16: was shut down and the baby was left to die. 754 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 16: And that is just a heartbreaking story. But I've had 755 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 16: other midwives and has come forward to tell me stories 756 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 16: of these babies who they want to hold them, but 757 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 16: they're not counted as patients. So under Queensland law, the 758 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 16: Miles government actually did change the midwife to patient ratios 759 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 16: in a positive way a few weeks ago, but these 760 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 16: babies who are born alive after an abortion, they're not 761 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 16: counted as patients. So one midwife told me of a 762 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 16: situation where she wanted to hold this baby that was 763 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,799 Speaker 16: born alive and she wrapped them in a blanket, but 764 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,399 Speaker 16: then the coll bell rang, so she had to put 765 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 16: the baby down and just leave that baby gasping for 766 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 16: air in the dirty you know, and they go in 767 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 16: the dirty pan room, so they go where the dirty 768 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 16: dishes are and that's where they're left gasping for air 769 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 16: until they passed. So it's an absolute natural disgrace. These 770 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:21,959 Speaker 16: senators who did not vote for this last week. It's 771 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,200 Speaker 16: just hard to comprehend and it shows you that we 772 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,839 Speaker 16: need it. And it wasn't a massive wake up call 773 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 16: in this country, and. 774 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,280 Speaker 3: It wasn't just the Greens and Labor. We had liberal 775 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 3: senators and what is the concern from these people? I mean, 776 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 3: it seems to me insane not to be giving assistance 777 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 3: to a baby that is gasping for breath, that somehow 778 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 3: holds on to life for five hours despite not getting 779 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 3: any medical assistance. Are they scared that if you acknowledge 780 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 3: that this happens and have some sort of a pro 781 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 3: says where they have to receive treatment, that it will 782 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 3: put late term abortion under threat. Is that why they're 783 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:10,239 Speaker 3: voting against this motion. It's hard to understand why anybody 784 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,840 Speaker 3: would be against giving assistance to a baby that is 785 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 3: struggling for breath. 786 00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 16: There were four liberals Senator Hume, Senator Birmingham, Senator Bragg 787 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 16: and Senator Mariakovichik who voted against giving ecal treatment to 788 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 16: children born alive. Senator Maria Covidchick stood up in the 789 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 16: Parliament and gave four reasons as to why she was 790 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 16: voting against ecal treatment for these babies. She said that 791 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 16: we haven't had enough time to discuss this. She said, 792 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 16: this is not urgent, She said, these babies, the data, 793 00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 16: she questioned, the data on this not being one baby 794 00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 16: a week, and she also said this is a decision 795 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 16: between a woman and her doctor. Now, the reality is 796 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 16: the Senate has had a Born Alive Protection bill for 797 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 16: eighteen months on the books, so Covidchik needs to do 798 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 16: a job and get up to speed. The data is 799 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,279 Speaker 16: very clear. It's one baby a week, and that's justin 800 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 16: Queensland and Victoria, one baby a week who is born 801 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 16: alive without a legal right to care. And this argument, 802 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 16: but doctor How, it. 803 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 4: How it doesn't make sense. Reader, I just think it. 804 00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you think that data is wrong, if you 805 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: think it's been overstated, fine you can still pass the legislation. 806 00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 3: The legislation isn't related to data. It's related to making 807 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,480 Speaker 3: sure a baby that's born alive after a failed abortion 808 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 3: gets some medical care. So, whether it's one a week, 809 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 3: one a year, why would that prevent you from passing 810 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 3: the legislation. I think we need far more scrutiny, particularly 811 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 3: from those liberal senators you mentioned, doctor Joana How, thank 812 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 3: you for your time this evening, and that's. 813 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 8: It from now. 814 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 3: I'll see you at eleven tomorrow. 815 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 8: Good night,