Speaker 1: On scorn Lids Australia.
Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panicky Show.
Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panicky Show.
Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, we take a deep dive into the
Speaker 4: ray Gun scandal, how it happened and what your tax
Speaker 4: dollars are funding and trust me, it's a lot worse
Speaker 4: than that awful dancing. Also tonight, Melbourne's youth crime crisis
Speaker 4: devastates more innocent lives.
Speaker 3: The latest from the.
Speaker 4: US with Josh Hammer, who will expose the Democrats propaganda arm.
Speaker 3: And later in the hour, I will speak to a brave.
Speaker 4: Woman making her Sky News debut, a woman who was.
Speaker 3: Sold a dangerous lie and lived as a.
Speaker 4: Transman for many years and of course left. He's losing
Speaker 4: it Tonight, featuring some of Kamala Harris's biggest fans.
Speaker 5: I'm a trans man and I'm gay, and I have
Speaker 5: been pregnant and I've had an abortion before and I
Speaker 5: don't want to lose that.
Speaker 3: Joining me now is new.
Speaker 4: He is called senior writer Patrick Carline and media writer
Speaker 4: for the Australian newspaper Sophie Ellsworth.
Speaker 3: Team will be getting to.
Speaker 4: The Trump Musk Chat shortly that has shook up the
Speaker 4: online world. But let's start with former Speaker of the
Speaker 4: House Nancy Pelosi calling out former Australian Prime Minister Paul
Speaker 4: Keating for his comments about Taiwan sitting on Chinese real estate.
Speaker 3: That's what Paul Keating said.
Speaker 4: And Nancy Pelosi did not hold back, calling the former
Speaker 4: Labor Prime minister stupid and ridiculous.
Speaker 6: Well, you don't want to get my description of him
Speaker 6: for saying that that's ridiculous. It is not Chinese real estate,
Speaker 6: and he should know that Taiwan is Taiwan and it's
Speaker 6: of the people of Taiwan who have a democracy there.
Speaker 6: I think that was a stupid statement with or I
Speaker 6: have no idea about Keating, but I think it was
Speaker 6: a stupid statement to me. And I don't know what
Speaker 6: his connection is to China that he would say such
Speaker 6: a thing, But it is really not in the security
Speaker 6: interest of the Asian Pacific region for people to talk
Speaker 6: that way.
Speaker 3: Patrick.
Speaker 4: She used the words ridiculous stupid twice and also questioned
Speaker 4: Paul Keating's connection to China. That is going to I'm
Speaker 4: sure get a response from Porl Keating at some point.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Look, I think it's firstly, it's a pity that
Speaker 2: she wasn't nice about Malcolm Turnbul because she might have
Speaker 2: said the same things. But in talking about Taiwan, I mean,
Speaker 2: she's right. It's a democracy, it's about freedom, it's facing
Speaker 2: the imperial fist if you like, of China. It's a
Speaker 2: very important hot spot in the world. And Paul Keating
Speaker 2: I think, compared Taiwan to Tasmania, which was described as baffling,
Speaker 2: and it was China is not our friend. It's a
Speaker 2: mutually beneficial sort of ally if you like. They don't
Speaker 2: have the same values. And you have to agree with
Speaker 2: Pelosi on this one, I think.
Speaker 3: I think you do. Not too often I agree with her,
Speaker 3: But Sophie.
Speaker 4: Paul Keating still has this I don't know, reputation in
Speaker 4: this country where he is seen as this leading light
Speaker 4: in labor, this intellectual whose words are listen to very carefully,
Speaker 4: and not too often do you have someone from the
Speaker 4: left lay the boots in like she just did.
Speaker 3: Well, that's right, Reta. It's the left eating the left here.
Speaker 7: And I think Paul Keating is doing himself for disservice
Speaker 7: because he seems to be commenting on a lot of
Speaker 7: issues of late. He's constantly popping up in the media,
Speaker 7: putting his two cents out there. He's becoming, you know,
Speaker 7: like these former prime ministers that cannot move on and
Speaker 7: very bitter and this is showing through and it doesn't
Speaker 7: help him when someone of Nancy Pelosi's you know, she's
Speaker 7: known all around the world attacks him.
Speaker 4: Well, yes, he should try to be more like Tony
Speaker 4: Abbott and Julia Gillard as opposed to Kevin Right and
Speaker 4: Malcolm Turnbull. Though Kevin is behaving himself given he's got
Speaker 4: that diplomatic posting, but we'll see how long that lasts. Now,
Speaker 4: let's talk about the Greens. They've called for sanctions to
Speaker 4: be leveled against the Israeli government, including Prime Minister Benjamin
Speaker 4: nettan Yahoo, and they want the Albahey government to expel
Speaker 4: Israel's ambassador to Australia, Emir Maimon Wa.
Speaker 3: Senator for Tima Payman, who in.
Speaker 4: July quit the Labor Party did vote with the Greens,
Speaker 4: but the Coalition and Labor combined today to defeat this
Speaker 4: motion in the Australian Parliament. This is astonishing, Patrick, they
Speaker 4: want to expel the Israeli ambassador.
Speaker 3: They're talking about.
Speaker 4: Sanctions against the only democracy in the Middle East, our
Speaker 4: greatest ally in the region. I mean, this is nutty stuff,
Speaker 4: even by the Green standards.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Look, they've been grand standing on this since October seven. Basically,
Speaker 2: I think it verges into antisemitism at times. They call
Speaker 2: the Israeli government extremists, but they're not talking about Hamas
Speaker 2: who happened to sort of go on massacre fourteen or
Speaker 2: thirteen hundred innocent Jewish people. It's about getting votes in
Speaker 2: the marginal electorates. They want to take votes off the
Speaker 2: alp there. It's sort of dressed up in this high
Speaker 2: minded sort of morality, but it's all about it's very
Speaker 2: basic sort of politic of the worst kind, and it
Speaker 2: does fan the flames of extremism, and we've seen enough
Speaker 2: of that already on the streets in the protests.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's very opportunistic by the Greens that
Speaker 4: see opportunity here and they're going after they know they
Speaker 4: can wedge labor who are desperate to appease segments of
Speaker 4: their supporter base.
Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about that.
Speaker 4: Wide ranging interview that happened earlier today between Elon Mask
Speaker 4: and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. All sorts of serious matters,
Speaker 4: discussed energy, security, inflation, national security, but there was an
Speaker 4: unexpected life At a moment they were discussing the miraculous
Speaker 4: manner in which Trump survived that assassination attempt, and he
Speaker 4: says illegal immigration saved his life.
Speaker 8: And I mean, speaking of the sort of slide that
Speaker 8: got you to turn that save your life? Really, where's
Speaker 8: the illegal immigration slade? Maybe maybe we're talking about about that.
Speaker 8: It was it was.
Speaker 9: The illegal immigrations dave my life an exact angle.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's a great.
Speaker 3: One, Sophia.
Speaker 4: Of course he turned his head at that last millisecond
Speaker 4: to look at a slide that had illegal immigration figures
Speaker 4: on it, and that's saved his life. I mean, it's
Speaker 4: incredible to think about. What did you make of that chat?
Speaker 4: It went for some time, a lot of issues were
Speaker 4: covered and an enormous audience reached.
Speaker 3: That's right, Rita.
Speaker 7: And obviously they had the technical issues initially, but then
Speaker 7: they recovered from that. It's quite a lengthy interview. I've
Speaker 7: heard large segments of it. Look, I thought it was
Speaker 7: pretty interesting.
Speaker 3: This is obviously a very good.
Speaker 7: Platform to Trump, for Trump to get his messaging out there.
Speaker 7: We know that X is, I would argue, a left
Speaker 7: leaning social media platform. It's important that he voices his
Speaker 7: views across all platforms. Il On Musk has given him
Speaker 7: that platform, and we know he was also back on
Speaker 7: Twitter himself or X today posting after what a one
Speaker 7: year hiatus, So.
Speaker 4: I think longer than that. Yeah, I don't think he's
Speaker 4: been there since.
Speaker 7: Twenty twenty maybe right, Well, it's certainly sometime since he's
Speaker 7: been posting. So the fact that he's back on there
Speaker 7: this shows that I think he'll be using this platform
Speaker 7: a lot in the lead up to the presidential race.
Speaker 4: What do you make of Trump being back on Twitter
Speaker 4: or X as it's now called. He's created his own
Speaker 4: social media platform that we're told is now worth billions,
Speaker 4: but Twitter or X is where the bulk of the audiences,
Speaker 4: and I think if you're running for presidents, you really
Speaker 4: should make an appearance.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. Look, I think he offered Elon Musk a place
Speaker 2: in his administration during the two hours it went for
Speaker 2: two hours. It's a long time to ask somebody to
Speaker 2: watch something. It was basically a stump speech almost he
Speaker 2: just talked about the Iron Dome. I mean, he's just
Speaker 2: going to make it protect America with an iron dome
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: You know what, that sounds kind of crazy when you
Speaker 4: look at the size of the country. Yes, but and
Speaker 4: also because you know, you don't expect Canada to be
Speaker 4: trying to.
Speaker 3: Nuke the joint.
Speaker 4: But a lot of Americans would go, we're paying for
Speaker 4: this sort of security elsewhere in the world, why don't
Speaker 4: we also have it?
Speaker 3: It would I think it's it would be weirdly popular.
Speaker 2: Regardless, I'm sure it's popular, But I think I think
Speaker 2: for Trump, I mean, look, it's important he gets his
Speaker 2: message out. Now, I don't think it really matters so
Speaker 2: much what he does and doesn't say, because Americans worked
Speaker 2: out a long time ago that the content of Donald
Speaker 2: Trump isn't particularly important. That's what he represents. So and
Speaker 2: he wants to get you know, he wants to be
Speaker 2: back in the in the gaze again. And on Karmala
Speaker 2: Harris has stolen some of the gays last two weeks.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think there's a start contrast here having
Speaker 4: a two hour chat when Kamala.
Speaker 3: Is refusing to do interview, that's a good point.
Speaker 4: She's only talking from prepared statements on an autoque. So yeah,
Speaker 4: It just shows that contrast. Now let's go back to
Speaker 4: local news and warning, my next story maybe distressing to
Speaker 4: some viewers. Melbourne's youth crime crisis is spiraling further out
Speaker 4: of control. Teenagers are filming themselves slicing up rivals with machetes,
Speaker 4: there are all some reports. In one video uploaded to
Speaker 4: a page documenting Melbourne's youth gang wars, three young men
Speaker 4: armed with machetes are seen plowing their weapons into the
Speaker 4: body of an unarmed rival, who copped nearly a dozen
Speaker 4: slashes and stab wounds as he laid defenseless on the ground.
Speaker 4: In another case, the dead body of a teenager who
Speaker 4: was fatally stabbed in a gang knife attack was recorded.
Speaker 4: In the recording, you can hear one voice saying he's
Speaker 4: dead and another one saying he's not breathing.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 4: This is just so disturbing, Sophie. Innocent lives are being lost,
Speaker 4: families are being devastated, and this goes across several areas.
Speaker 3: The justice system, the policing, the.
Speaker 4: Effort to increase the age of criminal responsibility.
Speaker 7: Well, that's right, Rachel, and we know that's being discussed today.
Speaker 7: And now they've moved away from that to implement their
Speaker 7: lifting the age to fourteen. But we have a youth
Speaker 7: crime crisis in Victoria, only in Victoria.
Speaker 3: But in other parts of the country.
Speaker 7: Queensland's obviously been very vocal about it as well, and
Speaker 7: when people try and dismiss it, or political leaders try
Speaker 7: and talk it down, people can see through that. We're
Speaker 7: hearing the real stories, as we say in the media,
Speaker 7: these horror stories and reta.
Speaker 3: It's frightening for people.
Speaker 7: You don't want to be living in your own home.
Speaker 4: Living in fear Patrick really touches people from all sorts
Speaker 4: of backgrounds. It's not confined to one or two crime
Speaker 4: prone suburbs. It's in the affluent areas, it's in the
Speaker 4: lower socioeconomic areas. And you've got people who are no
Speaker 4: involvement in youth gangs that sort of world being caught
Speaker 4: up in it and losing their lives.
Speaker 2: Well, you had an eighteen year old the other day
Speaker 2: he died. He was a motorcyclist, kids in a stolen
Speaker 2: car allegedly, I should point out, plowed into him. There
Speaker 2: was another one about four weeks ago, twenty eight year
Speaker 2: old describing waiting to turn right he got plowed into
Speaker 2: and killed it can affect everybody, and it is actually scary.
Speaker 2: There's a hardcore group group of about two hundred years
Speaker 2: according to the police, and they're.
Speaker 3: Gaming the system.
Speaker 2: They're getting caught, they're getting bailed, and they're going out
Speaker 2: and doing it again, and they're getting bailed for the
Speaker 2: seventh or eighth or ninth time. And people are in
Speaker 2: danger because of this system. The system is actually letting
Speaker 2: down Melbourne as we speak.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, And I think that is one of the
Speaker 4: biggest frustrations, the ease with which these kids get bail
Speaker 4: and some of these offenses allegedly occurring by people who
Speaker 4: are out on bail. Patrick Carl and Sophie Elsworth, thank
Speaker 4: you so much for your time this evening. Joining me
Speaker 4: now is digital editor for skynews dot com dot Au
Speaker 4: and host of the media show nine pm Fridays, right
Speaker 4: before Lift is Losing It.
Speaker 3: Jack Horton, Welcome to the program. Now.
Speaker 4: You wrote a fantastic piece yesterday on the ray Gun Fueral.
Speaker 4: Your headlines set at all. I read Big Girl ray
Speaker 4: Gun's academic work on coloe structures in breaking so you
Speaker 4: don't have to, and somehow it is worse than her dancing.
Speaker 3: I've also had.
Speaker 4: A look at her work, her academic work on Sesslar
Speaker 4: colonial structures that rely upon radicalized and gendered hierarchies.
Speaker 3: Tell me, what are our taxes funding here?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Well, it's a really good point. The dancing. Let's put
Speaker 11: it to one side, because the dancing was absurd all
Speaker 11: on its own. But then when you look into this person,
Speaker 11: she has forged a career for herself at Macquarie University.
Speaker 11: It's actually just down the road from where we are
Speaker 11: at Sydney, a university which gets about two hundred and
Speaker 11: forty million dollars a year in grants, heavily subsidized. Everything
Speaker 11: they do is subsidized by the taxpayer. You've got a
Speaker 11: person who has forged this very niche career in breaking
Speaker 11: in breakdancing, and she's trying to tie it to colonial structures.
Speaker 11: Everything's about racialized theory. Everything's americanized, the spelling americanized because
Speaker 11: they need to try and publish in these americanized journals,
Speaker 11: and so everything has to be about critical race theory.
Speaker 11: And she somehow managed to tie breakdancing to colonial structures,
Speaker 11: to being institutionalized, to racism and written a paper about it.
Speaker 11: I actually think it's absurd. I think that no university
Speaker 11: which is serious, and this is a very big problem
Speaker 11: in modern academia. That I would argue is it's across
Speaker 11: not just this area, but it seems to proliferate through
Speaker 11: all these other bizarre courses where people are forging their careers. Now,
Speaker 11: I don't think the taxpayer should fund any of this,
Speaker 11: So putting the dancing to one side. You know, whether
Speaker 11: or not she should have been allowed to go on
Speaker 11: the trip, whether we should have paid for all expense
Speaker 11: paid trip to Paris, put all that to one side.
Speaker 11: Here is a person who has forged a career, turning
Speaker 11: the most ridiculous ideas into some kind of scholastic pursuit.
Speaker 4: Well, we're not allowed to show her Olympic performance beyond
Speaker 4: those steals we showed, but let's have a look at
Speaker 4: the stella dancing that saw her qualify for the games.
Speaker 4: Dear God, again, my question is how I've seen clips
Speaker 4: of her dancing in different events and it doesn't get
Speaker 4: any better, Jack, I mean, how did she qualify for
Speaker 4: the Olympic team? How was she in Paris? Never mind
Speaker 4: who's paying for it? And yes, the taxpayer is paying
Speaker 4: for that trip.
Speaker 3: How was she our representative.
Speaker 11: It's actually a really good point. Now I've gone deep
Speaker 11: into this, right, and I think there is another scandal
Speaker 11: here that everybody's missed. The woman who was dancing competing
Speaker 11: alongside her and that clip. It's a woman called Holly.
Speaker 11: Molly is her name. You can look her up on Instagram.
Speaker 11: You take a look at some of her clips. And
Speaker 11: this person, actually, this young woman, she's a very young woman,
Speaker 11: has a lot of skill. And I have no idea
Speaker 11: why we decided to send the thirty six year old
Speaker 11: academic or how the judges thought that her performance was
Speaker 11: better in this situation. Look, I'm no expert on breakdancing.
Speaker 11: I don't plan to be, I don't want to be.
Speaker 11: But just objectively looking at the skill level athleticism, this
Speaker 11: Rachel gunn Ray gun. She can barely move, I mean
Speaker 11: to be swinging her arms around doing the sprinkler and
Speaker 11: then the kangaroo thing. I mean to me, it looked
Speaker 11: as if she had choreographed some kind of act intentionally
Speaker 11: to get headlines. It's all these Australian colloquialisms. It was
Speaker 11: the most cliche kind of oh you know, gadet mate,
Speaker 11: kind of dancing act. It seemed like a stuff computed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, was none of it was executed well, even if
Speaker 4: the ideas were kind of interesting, you could say. And
Speaker 4: it was so bad that people genuinely believed that it
Speaker 4: was some sort of an elaborate joke that they couldn't
Speaker 4: believe it could actually be that bad. But let's hear
Speaker 4: from the woman herself. She was on the project talking
Speaker 4: about her art.
Speaker 12: I think my understanding of musicality going into breaking was
Speaker 12: very strong. My body awareness, my coordination, my eye for
Speaker 12: technique has been much stronger going into the.
Speaker 4: Dance, and all of that was missing during those performances
Speaker 4: and everything else I've seen now Jack, there are so
Speaker 4: many online who are now doing spoofs of regard. She
Speaker 4: really has become an international phenomenon. Adele's mentioned her on stage,
Speaker 4: Every publication from NBC to BBC is reporting on her.
Speaker 4: The world is going to think Australians can't dance. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's what I'm worried about, because they're all making fun
Speaker 4: of us.
Speaker 11: Who could blame? I do not believe. First, can I
Speaker 11: just say that anybody uses the word musicality in an
Speaker 11: interview and then talking about their skill in the way.
Speaker 11: I mean, she's got tickets on herself. She genuinely thinks
Speaker 11: that she is all there, that she's a great breakdancer.
Speaker 11: I mean, for me, it honestly isn't even about the dancing.
Speaker 11: It's the fact that it's the academic work. It's the
Speaker 11: fact that you've got somebody saying sportification musicality, and you're
Speaker 11: putting this into work to try and convince people that
Speaker 11: your work is worth being funded and it's worth being studied.
Speaker 11: This person is a teacher. They're shaping the minds of
Speaker 11: the next generation of leaders. But I don't know how
Speaker 11: many leaders are going to be studying dance theory. To
Speaker 11: be fair in her defense, but this is not a
Speaker 11: serious person. If you're going to go up there and
Speaker 11: say that you skill in breakdancing as judio musicality, it's absurd.
Speaker 11: And I do not believe that this was the best
Speaker 11: that Australia had to offer. Call me cynical, but I
Speaker 11: don't understand how she managed to win that qualification round.
Speaker 11: And I watched it, it did not seem like a
Speaker 11: fair competition to me.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a conspiracy theory of sorts emerging as to
Speaker 4: why the performance was so awful Summer, claiming she aimed
Speaker 4: to get.
Speaker 3: Zero points for every performance.
Speaker 4: And it was a part of her academic studies. Professor
Speaker 4: Meghan Davis, one of the chief advocates of the Voice
Speaker 4: referendum the Voice to Parliament, She took to social media
Speaker 4: to slam the Olympis, saying getting zero points on purpose
Speaker 4: in three rounds for an academic study subsidized by the
Speaker 4: tax payer, both at a university and Olympic level, isn't
Speaker 4: funny and isn't having a go. It's disrespectful to other competitors.
Speaker 4: I'm glad most Aussie's aren't buying the kool aid now.
Speaker 10: Jack.
Speaker 4: She had her trip obviously to Paris paid foot by taxpayers,
Speaker 4: but I don't see how she's going to get any
Speaker 4: extra money for her academic work by getting zeros. So
Speaker 4: I'm not on board with that theory at all, but
Speaker 4: it must be noted. The Daily Telegraph reports that the
Speaker 4: City of Sydney Council also gave Reygun a twenty thousand
Speaker 4: dollars grant back in twenty twenty two to research spaces
Speaker 4: for street dance. So I guess there is some taxpayer
Speaker 4: dollars to be had in this area. I'll give you
Speaker 4: the final word. Will we see more of Raygan and
Speaker 4: in what capacity? Because she's possibly one of the most
Speaker 4: famous Australians in the world right now?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree completely. I don't think she intentionally tanked
Speaker 11: it for any kind of fame. I think that is
Speaker 11: a conspiracy theory and I don't see how that would
Speaker 11: be advantageous. But I do think we're going to see
Speaker 11: more of her if you read her academic work. She
Speaker 11: writes about herself, and that's the point I made in
Speaker 11: the article. These academics turn supposedly independent research into self
Speaker 11: promotional blogs.
Speaker 3: We've run out of.
Speaker 4: Time, Jack Harden, thank you so much for your insights
Speaker 4: this evening.
Speaker 11: Appreciate it, Thanks for having me reader.
Speaker 4: Still to come, Lefties Losing It and Josh Hammer exposes
Speaker 4: the Democrats propaganda art.
Speaker 3: Welcome back.
Speaker 4: Now it's time for Lefties Losing It, and I think
Speaker 4: we should start with one about regular contributors to this segment.
Speaker 4: She's the MVP of Lefties Losing It MSNBC's Joy Read
Speaker 4: and here's She expresses surprise that Kamala Harris didn't pick
Speaker 4: Mark Kelly as her VP because he's so white.
Speaker 10: And I thought she would go astronaut keeping it real.
Speaker 13: He to me, would have been the safest, most conventionally
Speaker 13: safe pick uh waight uh super weight like you.
Speaker 10: Know Maynise Sandwich on Wonderbred Weight.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine a news anchor describing a black dude
Speaker 4: with that sort of language. You'd be off air in
Speaker 4: a millisecond. Now, let's check in on some Kamala fanboys
Speaker 4: and girls. Why are they backing a woman who was
Speaker 4: five minutes ago called a political liability but is now some.
Speaker 3: Sort of a savior.
Speaker 4: Let's hear from some of her biggest fans, starting with
Speaker 4: this young lass who identifies as a transman that got
Speaker 4: pregnant and had an abortion.
Speaker 10: Why are y'all voting for Kamla Harris.
Speaker 5: I don't want to lose my raights like I'm a
Speaker 5: transman and I'm gay, and I have been pregnant and
Speaker 5: I've had an abortion before, and I don't want to
Speaker 5: lose that. I'm afraid of not being able to be
Speaker 5: myself anymore because from what I've heard, Trump's America doesn't
Speaker 5: want me to look like this.
Speaker 3: So your mom doesn't want you to look like this?
Speaker 4: And here is her friend who seems to think that
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is going to make piercings and tattoos legal.
Speaker 14: Like, I'm very you know, alternative, alternative, and I feel
Speaker 14: like if Trump were to win, I wouldn't be able
Speaker 14: to like express myself through my looks and everything, and
Speaker 14: wouldn't be able to have the Persians of the diet.
Speaker 14: Here are the tattoos that I want. You know, I
Speaker 14: would be able to be myself. And my dad's very
Speaker 14: pro Trump, and I'm just very pro combl pro Tramela.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't you know that, poor dad.
Speaker 4: Yet low information voters with paranoid delusions seems to be
Speaker 4: overrepresented of these Kamala rallies. Let's hear some more and
Speaker 4: that great work I should say here by Taylor Hansen
Speaker 4: for these eye opening interviews, now get ready to lose
Speaker 4: some brain cells.
Speaker 15: They probably wouldn't have accommodations for someone like me, especially
Speaker 15: given that I like women. As a woman, I want
Speaker 15: to keep access to my bank accounts. I would like
Speaker 15: to keep making money. I don't want to be some
Speaker 15: man's object.
Speaker 3: I really don't.
Speaker 15: It's the whole thing with Project twenty twenty five is terrifying.
Speaker 15: I don't like I read through some of it and
Speaker 15: it was just insane.
Speaker 10: It's bad.
Speaker 4: That is bad that anyone allowed to vote could be
Speaker 4: that brainwashed and broken.
Speaker 3: But there's more, there's always more.
Speaker 10: Why are y'all voting for Kamala Harris?
Speaker 16: I just it's ridiculous how anymore? It's really hard for
Speaker 16: people like us, like queer people, and it's just really
Speaker 16: hard for us to get rights, and with how the
Speaker 16: Republicans are handling everything, it's just putting more and more
Speaker 16: stress on us, like basically taking away everything we have.
Speaker 16: And it's just important that we feel safe just even
Speaker 16: living here because everyone's been wanting to leave the country
Speaker 16: and this is like the only chance we have to
Speaker 16: properly fix everything.
Speaker 4: Goodness may what can you say to that? If you
Speaker 4: allow lift us indoctrination to run unshared, that's the end result, folks.
Speaker 3: But it's not just young women.
Speaker 4: Who are being swept up by the Harris Walls campaign.
Speaker 3: Check out these two.
Speaker 10: Why are you voting for Kamala Harris because she is
Speaker 10: a woman that we need right now. Is there any
Speaker 10: specific policies or anything that really makes you vote for
Speaker 10: I just believe in her.
Speaker 1: I believed in her when I lived in California and
Speaker 1: I still believe in her now.
Speaker 10: Because she's all about the middle class.
Speaker 3: She's like us and Trump is bad.
Speaker 10: That's just Trump's bad. She's everything we're looking for. She's
Speaker 10: just everything we're looking for by the cat ladies for Kamala.
Speaker 10: So can you kind of explain that to me?
Speaker 1: Well, I think you got it right there. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't need to go any burden in the name.
Speaker 1: Are you a cat lady for Kamala? I am a
Speaker 1: cat lady for Kamala obviously.
Speaker 4: And the Kamala Harris campaign will so impressed with this
Speaker 4: next fan that they.
Speaker 3: Posted this video to social media.
Speaker 10: Do you plan to vote for Kamala Kamala and why?
Speaker 1: I kind of disagree more with her policies that she
Speaker 1: has ideas for and she's not a felon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what white dudes are for Kamala. That's what
Speaker 4: they sound like and look like. As for Kamala, she
Speaker 4: sounds great as long as she sticks strictly to the
Speaker 4: script written for her. And that's why they haven't allowed
Speaker 4: her to do any interviews or press conferences where she
Speaker 4: has to think on her feet. Indeed, they are so
Speaker 4: tightly controlling every word. She utters that she started plagiarizing
Speaker 4: her own speeches.
Speaker 17: So good to be back in Michigan. Listen, let me
Speaker 17: tell you, I am clear. The path to the White
Speaker 17: House runs right through this stea unlesson, I am clear.
Speaker 17: The path to the White House runs right through this steep.
Speaker 17: I took on perpetrators of all kinds. I took on
Speaker 17: perpetrators of all kinds, and had a summer job at McDonald's.
Speaker 4: I had a summer job at McDonald's.
Speaker 17: So hear me when I say so. Hear me Detroit
Speaker 17: when I say I know Donald Trump's tape. I know
Speaker 17: Donald Trump's tape.
Speaker 3: And are we ready to fight for it?
Speaker 10: Are we ready.
Speaker 3: To fight for it? And when we fight, we where?
Speaker 3: You know what? I think? I prefer it when she
Speaker 3: plagiarizes Donald Trump.
Speaker 9: Because when I get to office, we are going to
Speaker 9: not charge taxes on tips people making tips.
Speaker 17: Eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.
Speaker 4: Now plenty more left is losing it with my next guess,
Speaker 4: including the incredibly dishonest way the media is representing the
Speaker 4: presidential battle. Let's start with the Kamala rebrand. The far
Speaker 4: left Californian from San Francisco is not only stealing Donald
Speaker 4: Trump's policy to eliminate taxes on tips, but she's now
Speaker 4: pledging to take on big corporations, including Big Farmer.
Speaker 17: I will take on big corporations that engage in illegal
Speaker 17: price vouging, corporate landlords that unfairly raise rents on working families,
Speaker 17: and take on big Pharma and cap the cost of
Speaker 17: prescription drugs for all Americans.
Speaker 4: Joining me now is the senior editor at large of
Speaker 4: Newsweek and Article three Projects, senior counsel, Josh Hammer.
Speaker 3: Josh, is she not already part of the Biden Harris administration?
Speaker 4: Why isn't she doing this right now while they're in power.
Speaker 13: Well, she would like you to think that she is
Speaker 13: not currently in power for purposes of her policies. But
Speaker 13: I guess she wants you to imaginally think that she
Speaker 13: has all the answers come January twenty twenty five. This
Speaker 13: is Kamala Harris's fundamental problem right now is that she
Speaker 13: is the sitting Vice president of the United States, and
Speaker 13: she has been responsible just as responsible, frankly as Joe
Speaker 13: Biden for all of the policies and as you point out,
Speaker 13: all of the non policies that have been implemented or
Speaker 13: not implemented for the past three and a half years now.
Speaker 13: She is responsible for the worst economy in decades, for
Speaker 13: a formal recession in twenty twenty two. She's responsible for
Speaker 13: the nine point one percent annualize inflation rate that was
Speaker 13: reached two years ago on the summer in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 13: She's responsible for the box withdrawal from Afghanistan in twenty
Speaker 13: twenty one that made America look like a laughingstock, Wars
Speaker 13: in Russia, Ukraine, wars in the Middle East, the Middle
Speaker 13: East of tender Box. I could go on, but Kamala
Speaker 13: Harris is responsible for the horrific policies of this current administration,
Speaker 13: and she is trying so hard to not talk about that.
Speaker 13: And the media, obviously, as you're well aware of Rita,
Speaker 13: is completely abetting this. They are not asking her about
Speaker 13: her actual track record. They are not bringing up the
Speaker 13: fact that she was the borders are that she is
Speaker 13: singularly responsible, more than anyone else in the entire administration
Speaker 13: for the absolute cataclysm of in invading legal aliens out
Speaker 13: the American southern border. But she's trying to have her
Speaker 13: cake and eat it too, and unfortunately, the media, like
Speaker 13: I said, is letting her do it. So the onus
Speaker 13: falls on the Trump campaign to ask the actual hard
Speaker 13: questions and to try to break through this media induced
Speaker 13: collective bubble around her. It's really quite a mass.
Speaker 4: Honestly, the media campaign is possibly more astonishing than Kamala's
Speaker 4: own campaign. And we know she's been as you said,
Speaker 4: a disaster is the borders are. The media is trying
Speaker 4: to whitewash that record. But look at this clip from
Speaker 4: the last time she ran for president, back in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 4: where the good senator pledge to close immigration detention centers
Speaker 4: if she ever became president. I want to know, when
Speaker 4: you become president, would you be committing to close the
Speaker 4: immigration detention centers?
Speaker 17: Absolutely on day one.
Speaker 3: On day one, Josh day one.
Speaker 4: Again not saying much blowback or scrutiny about those comments
Speaker 4: by Kamahala Harris, but these comments are being often unearthed.
Speaker 3: On x by citizen journalists.
Speaker 15: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Look, I mean this is someone who, as you and
Speaker 13: I have discussed in the past three and this is
Speaker 13: someone who in twenty eighteen I believed the year was
Speaker 13: compared ice to the Ku Klux Klan here in America.
Speaker 13: This is someone who when she was campaigning for president
Speaker 13: in the year twenty twenty, she said that she wanted
Speaker 13: to make illegally crossing the border not an actual crime
Speaker 13: punishable by time in prison or in a DHS or
Speaker 13: CBP facility, but rather just a mere slap on the
Speaker 13: rest or a monetary fine at best. I mean, this
Speaker 13: is someone who comes from a border state, California, but
Speaker 13: in every position that she has ever held back in
Speaker 13: her home state in California, whether it was DA whether
Speaker 13: it was Attorney General, whether it was US Center, from
Speaker 13: that date has done everything possible to abet the flow
Speaker 13: of illegal alien coming across that very poorous southern border,
Speaker 13: and certainly her time as Vice president of the United States.
Speaker 10: I mean, anyone who.
Speaker 13: Could even look even remotely objectively, even remotely objectively at
Speaker 13: the situation at the US Mexico border would deem that
Speaker 13: the past three and a half years have been an
Speaker 13: unmitigated catastrophic capital f failure. And again, Kamala Harris is
Speaker 13: now trying to embrace this tough on border, tough on
Speaker 13: crime rhetoric. She's out there with all these ads in
Speaker 13: these heavily Hispanic Southwestern states like Nevada, Arizona states that
Speaker 13: are leading Trump saying that she is somehow like like
Speaker 13: Sheriff Joe R. Payo and Arizona that she's like a
Speaker 13: staunch border hawk. I mean, this is Soviet style provda disinformation.
Speaker 13: I mean just THATY are just lying to you. I
Speaker 13: do not know how else to say it. So again,
Speaker 13: the question at this point is whether or not the
Speaker 13: voters in the swing states, including those two aforementioned southwestern
Speaker 13: states that I mentioned, Arizona, Nevada, are they going to
Speaker 13: fall for the lie or is the actual record going
Speaker 13: to come up? And again, the responsibility for making sure
Speaker 13: that the conversation stays on the substantive issues in the
Speaker 13: track record, in theory ought to be the media. They're
Speaker 13: not doing their jobs. What that means is that the
Speaker 13: Trump Vance campaign has to break through that fog and
Speaker 13: to get the message out there. They have to remind
Speaker 13: the voters, remind them of the moderates, independence of the
Speaker 13: swing Steve voters, just how terrible her record is, including
Speaker 13: on the all important immigration issue.
Speaker 4: And on Kamala's record as a prosecutor who puts away felons.
Speaker 4: That's something they've been very strongly pushing to some sort
Speaker 4: of law and order crusader. Well, we all know how
Speaker 4: that went in California. And one of the laws the
Speaker 4: VP authored could see a pedophile who raped and murdered
Speaker 4: an eight year old girl freed in a couple of months.
Speaker 9: Josh.
Speaker 4: This could be largely because of a law Kamala Harris
Speaker 4: authored when she was California's Attorney General. It hasn't reed
Speaker 4: saved much coverage. This offender was under eighteen when this
Speaker 4: offense took place, and under this law that has been
Speaker 4: authored by Kamala Harris, he could be released from October. Again,
Speaker 4: this seems to be disqualifying on its own the manner
Speaker 4: in which she has contributed to the decay in California.
Speaker 13: Yeah, look, I mean Kama Harris's track record when she
Speaker 13: was Attorney General of California. I mean she single handedly
Speaker 13: led the charge on a multiple massive jailbreak pieces of legislation,
Speaker 13: very much including this one. She was a staunch defender
Speaker 13: of so called juvenile justice, which results in horrifica trosties.
Speaker 13: Much like this headline that The Daily Mail is doing
Speaker 13: a huge public service and actually trying to bring to
Speaker 13: the forefront of the conversation there. Look, personally speaking, I
Speaker 13: mean as a lawyer myself, as someone who back when
Speaker 13: I was a federal law clerk here in Texas, I
Speaker 13: mean I saw all sorts of horrific horrific fact pattern
Speaker 13: sex trafficking and human trafficking. I mean, my personal two
Speaker 13: cents on this is that if you are a bad dude,
Speaker 13: then you should be behind bars for the rest of
Speaker 13: your life, essentially, period, full stop, end of story. Everyone
Speaker 13: has due process, you have your right to appeal. That's
Speaker 13: bread and butter English common law stuff. But when you
Speaker 13: are a bad person at a certain point, you do
Speaker 13: not deserve parole. You cannot be let out on bail.
Speaker 13: And I sincerely worry I actually read it that there
Speaker 13: were even some people on the American Rights actually tragedy
Speaker 13: who have forgotten that a lot of people kind of
Speaker 13: got swept up in the storm of criminal justice reform,
Speaker 13: you know. Fortunately, I guess unfortunately it took really the
Speaker 13: George Floyd riots of twenty twenty and skyrocketing violent and
Speaker 13: property crime rates. I think for even of my fellow
Speaker 13: conservatives to kind of come back to reality check here
Speaker 13: on this issue. But again, it's a very, very very
Speaker 13: crucial issue for many swing stay voters. Crime is typically
Speaker 13: the number three issue of most of our polls right now,
Speaker 13: behind the economy and immigration, and as long as it
Speaker 13: continues to be the case, it is yet another issue
Speaker 13: along with immigration that is right for the picking for
Speaker 13: the Trump Fans campaign to procute the proscute the case
Speaker 13: pun very much intended.
Speaker 17: Now.
Speaker 4: We mentioned earlier that Kamalo so desperate for popular policies
Speaker 4: because there aren't too many policies on her official website,
Speaker 4: that she's stealing them from Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: Let's have a look at that.
Speaker 9: When I get to office, we are going to not
Speaker 9: charge taxes on tips people making.
Speaker 17: Tips, eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.
Speaker 3: Oh Josh.
Speaker 4: Not only did the media not slam Kamala for brazenly
Speaker 4: stealing a Trump policy without any credit, but look at
Speaker 4: the way they report the story in their headlines. Take CBS,
Speaker 4: for example. This is how they reported the policy when
Speaker 4: Trump released it, highlighting that it will cost the government
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty million dollars over ten years according
Speaker 4: to a non partisan watchdog group.
Speaker 3: But this is how they reported.
Speaker 4: It after Kamala stole the policy and announced it. Vice
Speaker 4: President Kamala Harris is rolling out a new policy position
Speaker 4: saying she'll fight to end taxes on tips for service
Speaker 4: and hospitality workers.
Speaker 3: Media bias. What media bias?
Speaker 13: Josh, Yeah, I mean that's just unbelievable stuff right there.
Speaker 13: I mean CBS News bear in mind, reader, is the
Speaker 13: exact same news outlet that that, for about two to
Speaker 13: two and a half years if I have the time
Speaker 13: frame right, insisted over and over again that the Hunter
Speaker 13: Biden laptop story was just Russian disinformation, and eventually CBS
Speaker 13: News buried in like the eighth or ninth paragraph of
Speaker 13: some unrelated article, they did a mayor culple like you
Speaker 13: know what are bad? Actually it was a legitimate laptop there.
Speaker 13: So you know, this is the CBS like most of
Speaker 13: the other major networks here, I mean ABC News, one
Speaker 13: of CBS's major competitors. ABC News has George Stephanopolis as
Speaker 13: their lead political anchor. This is someone who literally ran
Speaker 13: the Bill Clinton campaign in ninety two, So you know,
Speaker 13: these hacks definitely are not hiding it. Look, I mean,
Speaker 13: I'm not surprised that Kamala Harris is a plagiariss when
Speaker 13: it comes to policy, because her twenty twenty running mate
Speaker 13: Joe Biden was actually an admitted plagiarists back when he
Speaker 13: was in university. He was very much accused and then
Speaker 13: ultimately decades later, admitted that he was a plagiarists. I
Speaker 13: can't remember if it was in college or law school.
Speaker 13: So plagiarism seems to run very much in kind of
Speaker 13: the Democratic Party DNA at this particular point there, But
Speaker 13: ultimately it's kind of a refresher here. That's very difficult
Speaker 13: to kind of outpander the Democrats, even if you try
Speaker 13: to kind of put a sound policy into place to
Speaker 13: try to help out some blue collar people amidst this
Speaker 13: Bidenomics terrible economy. The Democrats have no shame whatsoever. They're
Speaker 13: gonna try to just double triple U, quadruple you up,
Speaker 13: trying to basically just panter to as many people as possible.
Speaker 13: That's how they buy votes, that's how they win elections.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, now let's talk about Tim Walls.
Speaker 4: The Harris campaign is desperately trying to silence rumors that
Speaker 4: he campaigned on stolen valor. A campaign spokesman, though, has
Speaker 4: admitted to CNN that the governor misspoke. I love that term, misspoke.
Speaker 4: When he talked about his time in combat. Here is
Speaker 4: a little bit of the governor misspeaking.
Speaker 9: Sure that those weapons of war that I carried in
Speaker 9: war is the only place where those weapons were.
Speaker 3: At carrying weapons of war.
Speaker 4: Now, Battalion Commander John Colb, who ran Walls's former unit,
Speaker 4: is accusing the VP nominee of misrepresenting his rank in
Speaker 4: the military. Walls has claimed he reached the rank of
Speaker 4: command sergeant major with the National Guard.
Speaker 3: But that doesn't appear to be the full story.
Speaker 13: Josh, no, it's very much not. And you know, look,
Speaker 13: Tim Walls is obviously a liar. I mean, he should
Speaker 13: be thanked for the service that he actually held, but
Speaker 13: he should not be thanked for service that he egregiously
Speaker 13: and falsely claimed that he hell that he did not
Speaker 13: actually do. And the craziest thing to kind of yet
Speaker 13: again go back to media bias, which I guess is
Speaker 13: kind of our late motif of the show, but to
Speaker 13: kind of go back to that, the media has been
Speaker 13: juxtaposing Tim Walls here in America as this great military hero.
Speaker 13: While they're doing that side by side with JD. Van's
Speaker 13: you know, you'd be hard pressed to find any mainstream
Speaker 13: media article here recently talking about JD. Vance's own military service.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 13: Van served in the Marines in a rack. Unlike Tim Walls,
Speaker 13: he was actually there. He signed up to defend his
Speaker 13: country overseas during the height of the War on Terror,
Speaker 13: unlike the guy on the other side of the ticket. So,
Speaker 13: you know, this side by side comparison is really remarkable
Speaker 13: if the media actually wants to tell the correct story there.
Speaker 13: But you know, politically speaking, I'm wondering if this whole
Speaker 13: stolen valor story, and it very much seems to be
Speaker 13: outright an objective, egregious even stolen valor, I have to
Speaker 13: wonder if this is going to play in those Midwestern states,
Speaker 13: in particular those rust spelt sides. There are a lot
Speaker 13: of veterans in these days, you know, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 13: There is a disproportionately large percentage of US military veterans
Speaker 13: in these states. If there was any demographic, any voting
Speaker 13: group out there who ought to and really really should
Speaker 13: take offense at this egregious act of stolen valor, it
Speaker 13: is veterans who actually did decide to fight and risk
Speaker 13: risk dying frankly for the country. So we'll see if
Speaker 13: it pays political dividends. But again, yet again, the media
Speaker 13: is doing their best to fluff it off and pretend
Speaker 13: like there's no big deal. But there is very much
Speaker 13: a very big deal here.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, they shoot people care about.
Speaker 3: But you're right.
Speaker 4: If you google this topic, the top search results are
Speaker 4: almost all gas lighting us that are all almost all
Speaker 4: presenting Walls of some war hero who's any questioning of
Speaker 4: his record is fake news. And then there's all sorts
Speaker 4: of question marks over vance who was actually there and
Speaker 4: who signed up to be there, As you said, at
Speaker 4: the height of the battle. Now it's not just the
Speaker 4: American media acting as the Democrats propaganda am our own
Speaker 4: nine news nine papers have claimed the nickname tampon Tim,
Speaker 4: which has been trending on x leveled against him Walls,
Speaker 4: is actually backfiring because it highlights Walls's effort to combat
Speaker 4: period poverty by putting free menstruation products in Minnesota public
Speaker 4: school bathrooms. Now, somehow, Josh, in this piece that ran
Speaker 4: for some thousand words, the author missed the key point
Speaker 4: the fact that Wolves is mocked as tampon Tim, not
Speaker 4: because he made tampons available for girls, but because he
Speaker 4: put tampons in boys' bathrooms in schools across Minnesota. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't know how you write a thousand words and
Speaker 4: somehow missed the key point.
Speaker 3: But that's the Australian media for.
Speaker 4: You, Josh, much better than what you've got in the US.
Speaker 3: Thank you again for your time this evening. It's always
Speaker 3: a pleasure.
Speaker 13: Always a pleasure.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
Speaker 17: Rita.
Speaker 4: Coming up next, a de transitioner debunks the lies.
Speaker 3: She was fed by the gender cult. Welcome back now.
Speaker 4: My next guest is a woman who spent years identifying
Speaker 4: as a transman, but after moving to Israel and living
Speaker 4: in the war zone created by October seven, Maya realized
Speaker 4: that many of the lies told by the left about
Speaker 4: her mass extentalize about gender ideology, lies she previously believed.
Speaker 4: She's now living as a woman and is on a
Speaker 4: mission to debunk the misinformation and false premises coming from
Speaker 4: institutions that led her to transition in the first place.
Speaker 4: My poet joins me, now, now I want to start
Speaker 4: with a tweet you sent that caught my eye. You
Speaker 4: talk about pediac trick gender medicine existing because adult outcomes
Speaker 4: were so poor that Dutch researchers concluded that preventing children's
Speaker 4: natural puberty allowed them to pass better as adults passes
Speaker 4: the new gender, and that whole idea of trans kids
Speaker 4: was created to affirm the idea of trans adults. Explain
Speaker 4: that to me, because I think that's such a crucially
Speaker 4: important point.
Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely, Thank you Rida so much for having me on.
Speaker 18: So the way I see this entire revolution of gender
Speaker 18: medicine going is essentially that these ideologues, they you know,
Speaker 18: they subscribe to a certain ideology which presupposes that every
Speaker 18: single person has this thing called the gender identity, or
Speaker 18: an internal sense of their own sex. And these idea
Speaker 18: logs argue that this sense, this internal sense of one
Speaker 18: sex is innate. And so, you know, previously when we
Speaker 18: only saw this phenomenon really occurring in adults, and we
Speaker 18: really only saw this phenomenon occurring in adults who were
Speaker 18: seeking treatments to change the appearance of their secondary and
Speaker 18: primary sexual characteristics. You know, in order for this ideology
Speaker 18: to work, essentially, these researchers and all of the people
Speaker 18: who subscribed to this ideology essentially had to claim that
Speaker 18: you know, it's inborn, that it's innate. So if there
Speaker 18: are these transgender or as it was called back in
Speaker 18: the time, these transsexual adults that exist, therefore, by you know,
Speaker 18: logical extension, there need to be these children who are
Speaker 18: also transgender. So one idea feeds directly right into the next.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Now tell me about your own story.
Speaker 4: Why did you transition and identify as a transman for
Speaker 4: so many years?
Speaker 18: So I started identifying as transgender in the year twenty twelve,
Speaker 18: at the age of twelve. So I was really an
Speaker 18: early adopter of this identity in this ideology. And the
Speaker 18: way I see it is that when I was twelve
Speaker 18: years old, I really didn't know what was actually going
Speaker 18: on with me. I was starting I was starting to
Speaker 18: experience crushes on other girls, and I didn't know what
Speaker 18: crushes were. I thought that crush was the orange soda,
Speaker 18: and I thought that all the sensations that I was
Speaker 18: feeling in my body around other girls were sensations that
Speaker 18: I could, you know. I looked them up on WebMD,
Speaker 18: and WebMD told me that I was either sick with
Speaker 18: a flu or coming down with some kind of a
Speaker 18: neurodegenerative condition. So I didn't know what that was actually
Speaker 18: going on with me. And I went in search of answers.
Speaker 18: I grew up in a progressive city, and so I
Speaker 18: had seen men undergoing what was called sex changes, and
Speaker 18: I wanted to know whether or not it was possible
Speaker 18: for a girl or a woman to do the same
Speaker 18: and to become a boy or a man. So I
Speaker 18: went on the Internet because as a kid, I liked
Speaker 18: to do medical research. I was interested previously when I
Speaker 18: was about eight or nine in super rare brand tumors,
Speaker 18: and so I developed a certain level of research skills
Speaker 18: online because of that. And so when I had this
Speaker 18: question pop into my mind, which was, well, could I
Speaker 18: just become the boy that you know girls would want
Speaker 18: to be with? And I just type that answer, like
Speaker 18: that question right into the Internet, and it generated back
Speaker 18: results from me seeing that it was indeed possible.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's incredible, And so many seem to be finding
Speaker 4: their way into this world via the Internet social media
Speaker 4: in particular. Now, how is trans ideology reinforcing some of
Speaker 4: these outdated gender stereotypes.
Speaker 3: I mean, when I was growing up, you could be
Speaker 3: a tomboy, that was fine.
Speaker 4: Nobody suggested you were in the wrong body or you
Speaker 4: needed puberty blockers and possibly a double misseectomy down the line.
Speaker 4: But there seems to be now if a boy is effeminate,
Speaker 4: likes the color pink, he may actually be a girl
Speaker 4: and vice versa.
Speaker 3: And it seems so backward.
Speaker 10: It's extremely backward.
Speaker 18: And I think that where it comes from is that
Speaker 18: in general, you know, society seems to not take super
Speaker 18: kindly to children or to adults who sort of buck norms.
Speaker 18: And I think that the framework of gender ideology gives
Speaker 18: people some kind of a conceptual understanding of why there
Speaker 18: are certain people who tend to be very non conforming
Speaker 18: from a young age. And so I think that you know,
Speaker 18: when I was looking up this content online and I
Speaker 18: saw it as a kid, the way that trans was defined,
Speaker 18: or the way that this sort of ineffable, unprovable male
Speaker 18: gender identity was described, was you know, just to the
Speaker 18: te describing experiences that a lot of young girls face,
Speaker 18: including discomfort with puberty, which is extremely natural. And also,
Speaker 18: you know, it's particularly relevant for girls who grew up
Speaker 18: to be same sex attracted. You know, the types of
Speaker 18: gender non conforming behavior that a lot of gays and
Speaker 18: lesbians are sort of known to have engaged in as children.
Speaker 18: And it seems as if for the last you know,
Speaker 18: at least a few decades. I mean, I just turned
Speaker 18: twenty five, so I don't have that much understanding of
Speaker 18: how parents were parenting their kids twenty thirty years ago.
Speaker 18: But from my understanding, a lot of parents sort of
Speaker 18: knew what the likely trajectory of these very nonconforming kids was,
Speaker 18: and a lot of the studies that were done under
Speaker 18: the watchful waiting protocol before we medicalize these kids showed
Speaker 18: that the long term outcomes were that if you don't
Speaker 18: come near these kids with the injections of the scalpels,
Speaker 18: most of them, the vast majority, will grow up to
Speaker 18: be happy gay men and lesbians, and we seem to
Speaker 18: have just forgotten that wisdom.
Speaker 4: My poet, thank you so much for your time, and
Speaker 4: that's it from May. Up next is Newsnight. I'll see
Speaker 4: you at eleven tomorrow