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Speaker 1: On scorn Lids Australia.

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Speaker 2: This is the Reader Panicky Show.

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Speaker 3: Good evening and welcome to the Riata Panicky Show.

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Speaker 4: Coming up tonight, we take a deep dive into the

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Speaker 4: ray Gun scandal, how it happened and what your tax

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Speaker 4: dollars are funding and trust me, it's a lot worse

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Speaker 4: than that awful dancing. Also tonight, Melbourne's youth crime crisis

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Speaker 4: devastates more innocent lives.

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Speaker 3: The latest from the.

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Speaker 4: US with Josh Hammer, who will expose the Democrats propaganda arm.

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Speaker 3: And later in the hour, I will speak to a brave.

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Speaker 4: Woman making her Sky News debut, a woman who was.

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Speaker 3: Sold a dangerous lie and lived as a.

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Speaker 4: Transman for many years and of course left. He's losing

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Speaker 4: it Tonight, featuring some of Kamala Harris's biggest fans.

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Speaker 5: I'm a trans man and I'm gay, and I have

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Speaker 5: been pregnant and I've had an abortion before and I

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Speaker 5: don't want to lose that.

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Speaker 3: Joining me now is new.

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Speaker 4: He is called senior writer Patrick Carline and media writer

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Speaker 4: for the Australian newspaper Sophie Ellsworth.

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Speaker 3: Team will be getting to.

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Speaker 4: The Trump Musk Chat shortly that has shook up the

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Speaker 4: online world. But let's start with former Speaker of the

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Speaker 4: House Nancy Pelosi calling out former Australian Prime Minister Paul

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Speaker 4: Keating for his comments about Taiwan sitting on Chinese real estate.

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Speaker 3: That's what Paul Keating said.

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Speaker 4: And Nancy Pelosi did not hold back, calling the former

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Speaker 4: Labor Prime minister stupid and ridiculous.

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Speaker 6: Well, you don't want to get my description of him

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Speaker 6: for saying that that's ridiculous. It is not Chinese real estate,

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Speaker 6: and he should know that Taiwan is Taiwan and it's

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Speaker 6: of the people of Taiwan who have a democracy there.

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Speaker 6: I think that was a stupid statement with or I

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Speaker 6: have no idea about Keating, but I think it was

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Speaker 6: a stupid statement to me. And I don't know what

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Speaker 6: his connection is to China that he would say such

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Speaker 6: a thing, But it is really not in the security

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Speaker 6: interest of the Asian Pacific region for people to talk

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Speaker 6: that way.

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Speaker 3: Patrick.

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Speaker 4: She used the words ridiculous stupid twice and also questioned

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Speaker 4: Paul Keating's connection to China. That is going to I'm

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Speaker 4: sure get a response from Porl Keating at some point.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Look, I think it's firstly, it's a pity that

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Speaker 2: she wasn't nice about Malcolm Turnbul because she might have

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Speaker 2: said the same things. But in talking about Taiwan, I mean,

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Speaker 2: she's right. It's a democracy, it's about freedom, it's facing

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Speaker 2: the imperial fist if you like, of China. It's a

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Speaker 2: very important hot spot in the world. And Paul Keating

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Speaker 2: I think, compared Taiwan to Tasmania, which was described as baffling,

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Speaker 2: and it was China is not our friend. It's a

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Speaker 2: mutually beneficial sort of ally if you like. They don't

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Speaker 2: have the same values. And you have to agree with

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Speaker 2: Pelosi on this one, I think.

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Speaker 3: I think you do. Not too often I agree with her,

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Speaker 3: But Sophie.

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Speaker 4: Paul Keating still has this I don't know, reputation in

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Speaker 4: this country where he is seen as this leading light

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Speaker 4: in labor, this intellectual whose words are listen to very carefully,

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Speaker 4: and not too often do you have someone from the

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right, Reta. It's the left eating the left here.

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Speaker 7: And I think Paul Keating is doing himself for disservice

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Speaker 7: because he seems to be commenting on a lot of

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Speaker 7: issues of late. He's constantly popping up in the media,

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Speaker 7: putting his two cents out there. He's becoming, you know,

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Speaker 7: like these former prime ministers that cannot move on and

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Speaker 7: very bitter and this is showing through and it doesn't

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Speaker 7: help him when someone of Nancy Pelosi's you know, she's

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, he should try to be more like Tony

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Speaker 4: Abbott and Julia Gillard as opposed to Kevin Right and

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Speaker 4: Malcolm Turnbull. Though Kevin is behaving himself given he's got

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Speaker 4: that diplomatic posting, but we'll see how long that lasts. Now,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about the Greens. They've called for sanctions to

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Speaker 4: be leveled against the Israeli government, including Prime Minister Benjamin

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Speaker 4: Israel's ambassador to Australia, Emir Maimon Wa.

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Speaker 3: Senator for Tima Payman, who in.

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Speaker 4: July quit the Labor Party did vote with the Greens,

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Speaker 4: but the Coalition and Labor combined today to defeat this

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Speaker 3: They're talking about.

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Speaker 4: Sanctions against the only democracy in the Middle East, our

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Speaker 4: even by the Green standards.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Look, they've been grand standing on this since October seven. Basically,

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Speaker 2: I think it verges into antisemitism at times. They call

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Speaker 2: the Israeli government extremists, but they're not talking about Hamas

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Speaker 2: who happened to sort of go on massacre fourteen or

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Speaker 2: thirteen hundred innocent Jewish people. It's about getting votes in

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Speaker 2: the marginal electorates. They want to take votes off the

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Speaker 2: alp there. It's sort of dressed up in this high

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Speaker 2: minded sort of morality, but it's all about it's very

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Speaker 2: basic sort of politic of the worst kind, and it

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Speaker 2: does fan the flames of extremism, and we've seen enough

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's very opportunistic by the Greens that

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Speaker 4: see opportunity here and they're going after they know they

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Speaker 4: can wedge labor who are desperate to appease segments of

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Speaker 3: Now, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 4: Wide ranging interview that happened earlier today between Elon Mask

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Speaker 4: and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump. All sorts of serious matters,

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Speaker 4: discussed energy, security, inflation, national security, but there was an

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Speaker 4: unexpected life At a moment they were discussing the miraculous

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Speaker 4: manner in which Trump survived that assassination attempt, and he

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Speaker 4: says illegal immigration saved his life.

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Speaker 8: And I mean, speaking of the sort of slide that

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Speaker 8: got you to turn that save your life? Really, where's

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Speaker 8: the illegal immigration slade? Maybe maybe we're talking about about that.

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Speaker 8: It was it was.

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Speaker 9: The illegal immigrations dave my life an exact angle.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's that's a great.

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Speaker 3: One, Sophia.

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Speaker 4: Of course he turned his head at that last millisecond

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Speaker 4: to look at a slide that had illegal immigration figures

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Speaker 4: on it, and that's saved his life. I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: incredible to think about. What did you make of that chat?

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Speaker 4: It went for some time, a lot of issues were

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Speaker 4: covered and an enormous audience reached.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Rita.

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Speaker 7: And obviously they had the technical issues initially, but then

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Speaker 7: they recovered from that. It's quite a lengthy interview. I've

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Speaker 7: heard large segments of it. Look, I thought it was

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Speaker 3: This is obviously a very good.

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Speaker 7: Platform to Trump, for Trump to get his messaging out there.

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Speaker 7: We know that X is, I would argue, a left

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Speaker 7: leaning social media platform. It's important that he voices his

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Speaker 7: views across all platforms. Il On Musk has given him

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Speaker 7: that platform, and we know he was also back on

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Speaker 7: Twitter himself or X today posting after what a one

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Speaker 4: I think longer than that. Yeah, I don't think he's

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Speaker 4: been there since.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty maybe right, Well, it's certainly sometime since he's

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Speaker 7: been posting. So the fact that he's back on there

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Speaker 7: this shows that I think he'll be using this platform

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Speaker 7: a lot in the lead up to the presidential race.

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Speaker 4: What do you make of Trump being back on Twitter

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Speaker 4: or X as it's now called. He's created his own

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Speaker 4: social media platform that we're told is now worth billions,

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Speaker 4: but Twitter or X is where the bulk of the audiences,

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Speaker 4: and I think if you're running for presidents, you really

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Speaker 4: should make an appearance.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Look, I think he offered Elon Musk a place

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Speaker 2: in his administration during the two hours it went for

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Speaker 2: two hours. It's a long time to ask somebody to

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Speaker 2: watch something. It was basically a stump speech almost he

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Speaker 2: just talked about the Iron Dome. I mean, he's just

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Speaker 4: You know what, that sounds kind of crazy when you

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Speaker 4: look at the size of the country. Yes, but and

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Speaker 4: also because you know, you don't expect Canada to be

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Speaker 3: Nuke the joint.

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Speaker 4: But a lot of Americans would go, we're paying for

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Speaker 4: this sort of security elsewhere in the world, why don't

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Speaker 4: we also have it?

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Speaker 3: It would I think it's it would be weirdly popular.

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Speaker 2: Regardless, I'm sure it's popular, But I think I think

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Speaker 2: for Trump, I mean, look, it's important he gets his

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Speaker 2: message out. Now, I don't think it really matters so

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Speaker 2: much what he does and doesn't say, because Americans worked

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Speaker 2: Trump isn't particularly important. That's what he represents. So and

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Speaker 2: he wants to get you know, he wants to be

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Speaker 2: back in the in the gaze again. And on Karmala

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Speaker 2: Harris has stolen some of the gays last two weeks.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and I think there's a start contrast here having

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Speaker 4: a two hour chat when Kamala.

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Speaker 3: Is refusing to do interview, that's a good point.

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Speaker 4: She's only talking from prepared statements on an autoque. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: It just shows that contrast. Now let's go back to

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Speaker 4: local news and warning, my next story maybe distressing to

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Speaker 4: some viewers. Melbourne's youth crime crisis is spiraling further out

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Speaker 4: of control. Teenagers are filming themselves slicing up rivals with machetes,

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Speaker 4: there are all some reports. In one video uploaded to

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Speaker 4: In another case, the dead body of a teenager who

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Speaker 4: In the recording, you can hear one voice saying he's

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 4: This is just so disturbing, Sophie. Innocent lives are being lost,

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Speaker 4: families are being devastated, and this goes across several areas.

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Speaker 3: The justice system, the policing, the.

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Speaker 4: Effort to increase the age of criminal responsibility.

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Speaker 7: Well, that's right, Rachel, and we know that's being discussed today.

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Speaker 7: And now they've moved away from that to implement their

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Speaker 7: lifting the age to fourteen. But we have a youth

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Speaker 7: crime crisis in Victoria, only in Victoria.

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Speaker 3: But in other parts of the country.

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Speaker 7: Queensland's obviously been very vocal about it as well, and

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Speaker 7: when people try and dismiss it, or political leaders try

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Speaker 7: and talk it down, people can see through that. We're

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Speaker 7: hearing the real stories, as we say in the media,

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Speaker 7: these horror stories and reta.

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Speaker 3: It's frightening for people.

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Speaker 7: You don't want to be living in your own home.

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Speaker 4: Living in fear Patrick really touches people from all sorts

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Speaker 4: of backgrounds. It's not confined to one or two crime

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Speaker 4: prone suburbs. It's in the affluent areas, it's in the

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Speaker 4: lower socioeconomic areas. And you've got people who are no

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Speaker 2: Well, you had an eighteen year old the other day

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Speaker 2: he died. He was a motorcyclist, kids in a stolen

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Speaker 2: car allegedly, I should point out, plowed into him. There

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Speaker 2: was another one about four weeks ago, twenty eight year

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Speaker 2: and killed it can affect everybody, and it is actually scary.

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Speaker 2: There's a hardcore group group of about two hundred years

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Speaker 3: Jack Horton, Welcome to the program. Now.

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Speaker 4: You wrote a fantastic piece yesterday on the ray Gun Fueral.

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Speaker 4: A look at her work, her academic work on Sesslar

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Speaker 4: colonial structures that rely upon radicalized and gendered hierarchies.

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Speaker 3: Tell me, what are our taxes funding here?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's a really good point. The dancing. Let's put

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Speaker 11: Everything's about racialized theory. Everything's americanized, the spelling americanized because

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Speaker 11: And she somehow managed to tie breakdancing to colonial structures,

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Speaker 11: It's actually a really good point. Now I've gone deep

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Speaker 12: I think my understanding of musicality going into breaking was

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Speaker 4: Dance, and all of that was missing during those performances

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Speaker 11: Who could blame? I do not believe. First, can I

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Speaker 11: It's the fact that it's the academic work. It's the

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Speaker 11: This person is a teacher. They're shaping the minds of

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a conspiracy theory of sorts emerging as to

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Speaker 3: Zero points for every performance.

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Speaker 4: And it was a part of her academic studies. Professor

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Speaker 10: Jack.

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Speaker 4: She had her trip obviously to Paris paid foot by taxpayers,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree completely. I don't think she intentionally tanked

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Speaker 4: Time, Jack Harden, thank you so much for your insights

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Speaker 11: Appreciate it, Thanks for having me reader.

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Speaker 4: Still to come, Lefties Losing It and Josh Hammer exposes

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Speaker 4: the Democrats propaganda art.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back.

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Speaker 4: Now it's time for Lefties Losing It, and I think

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Speaker 4: She's the MVP of Lefties Losing It MSNBC's Joy Read

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Speaker 4: and here's She expresses surprise that Kamala Harris didn't pick

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Speaker 4: Mark Kelly as her VP because he's so white.

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Speaker 10: And I thought she would go astronaut keeping it real.

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Speaker 13: He to me, would have been the safest, most conventionally

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Speaker 10: Know Maynise Sandwich on Wonderbred Weight.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine a news anchor describing a black dude

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Speaker 4: a millisecond. Now, let's check in on some Kamala fanboys

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Speaker 3: Sort of a savior.

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Speaker 10: Why are y'all voting for Kamla Harris.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to lose my raights like I'm a

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Speaker 3: So your mom doesn't want you to look like this?

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Speaker 4: And here is her friend who seems to think that

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Speaker 4: Donald Trump is going to make piercings and tattoos legal.

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Speaker 14: Like, I'm very you know, alternative, alternative, and I feel

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Speaker 14: Here are the tattoos that I want. You know, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't you know that, poor dad.

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Speaker 4: Yet low information voters with paranoid delusions seems to be

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Speaker 4: overrepresented of these Kamala rallies. Let's hear some more and

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Speaker 4: that great work I should say here by Taylor Hansen

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Speaker 4: for these eye opening interviews, now get ready to lose

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Speaker 4: some brain cells.

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Speaker 15: They probably wouldn't have accommodations for someone like me, especially

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Speaker 3: I really don't.

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Speaker 15: It's the whole thing with Project twenty twenty five is terrifying.

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Speaker 15: I don't like I read through some of it and

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Speaker 10: It's bad.

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Speaker 4: That is bad that anyone allowed to vote could be

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Speaker 3: But there's more, there's always more.

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Speaker 10: Why are y'all voting for Kamala Harris?

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Speaker 16: Republicans are handling everything, it's just putting more and more

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Speaker 16: stress on us, like basically taking away everything we have.

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Speaker 16: And it's just important that we feel safe just even

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Speaker 16: living here because everyone's been wanting to leave the country

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Speaker 16: and this is like the only chance we have to

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Speaker 16: properly fix everything.

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Speaker 4: Goodness may what can you say to that? If you

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Speaker 4: allow lift us indoctrination to run unshared, that's the end result, folks.

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Speaker 3: But it's not just young women.

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Speaker 4: Who are being swept up by the Harris Walls campaign.

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Speaker 3: Check out these two.

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Speaker 10: Why are you voting for Kamala Harris because she is

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Speaker 10: a woman that we need right now. Is there any

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Speaker 10: specific policies or anything that really makes you vote for

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Speaker 10: I just believe in her.

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Speaker 1: I believed in her when I lived in California and

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Speaker 1: I still believe in her now.

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Speaker 10: Because she's all about the middle class.

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Speaker 3: She's like us and Trump is bad.

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Speaker 10: That's just Trump's bad. She's everything we're looking for. She's

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Speaker 10: just everything we're looking for by the cat ladies for Kamala.

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Speaker 10: So can you kind of explain that to me?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you got it right there. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't need to go any burden in the name.

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Speaker 1: Are you a cat lady for Kamala? I am a

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Speaker 1: cat lady for Kamala obviously.

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Speaker 4: And the Kamala Harris campaign will so impressed with this

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Speaker 4: next fan that they.

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Speaker 3: Posted this video to social media.

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Speaker 10: Do you plan to vote for Kamala Kamala and why?

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Speaker 1: I kind of disagree more with her policies that she

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Speaker 1: has ideas for and she's not a felon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what white dudes are for Kamala. That's what

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Speaker 4: they sound like and look like. As for Kamala, she

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Speaker 4: sounds great as long as she sticks strictly to the

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Speaker 4: script written for her. And that's why they haven't allowed

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Speaker 4: her to do any interviews or press conferences where she

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Speaker 4: has to think on her feet. Indeed, they are so

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Speaker 4: tightly controlling every word. She utters that she started plagiarizing

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Speaker 4: her own speeches.

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Speaker 17: So good to be back in Michigan. Listen, let me

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Speaker 17: tell you, I am clear. The path to the White

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Speaker 17: House runs right through this stea unlesson, I am clear.

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Speaker 17: The path to the White House runs right through this steep.

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Speaker 17: I took on perpetrators of all kinds. I took on

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Speaker 17: perpetrators of all kinds, and had a summer job at McDonald's.

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Speaker 4: I had a summer job at McDonald's.

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Speaker 17: So hear me when I say so. Hear me Detroit

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Speaker 17: when I say I know Donald Trump's tape. I know

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Speaker 17: Donald Trump's tape.

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Speaker 3: And are we ready to fight for it?

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Speaker 10: Are we ready.

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Speaker 3: To fight for it? And when we fight, we where?

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Speaker 3: You know what? I think? I prefer it when she

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Speaker 3: plagiarizes Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: Because when I get to office, we are going to

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Speaker 9: not charge taxes on tips people making tips.

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Speaker 17: Eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.

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Speaker 4: Now plenty more left is losing it with my next guess,

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Speaker 4: including the incredibly dishonest way the media is representing the

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Speaker 4: presidential battle. Let's start with the Kamala rebrand. The far

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Speaker 4: left Californian from San Francisco is not only stealing Donald

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Speaker 4: Trump's policy to eliminate taxes on tips, but she's now

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Speaker 4: pledging to take on big corporations, including Big Farmer.

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Speaker 17: I will take on big corporations that engage in illegal

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Speaker 17: price vouging, corporate landlords that unfairly raise rents on working families,

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Speaker 17: and take on big Pharma and cap the cost of

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Speaker 17: prescription drugs for all Americans.

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Speaker 4: Joining me now is the senior editor at large of

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Speaker 4: Newsweek and Article three Projects, senior counsel, Josh Hammer.

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Speaker 3: Josh, is she not already part of the Biden Harris administration?

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Speaker 4: Why isn't she doing this right now while they're in power.

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Speaker 13: Well, she would like you to think that she is

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Speaker 13: not currently in power for purposes of her policies. But

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Speaker 13: I guess she wants you to imaginally think that she

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Speaker 13: has all the answers come January twenty twenty five. This

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Speaker 13: is Kamala Harris's fundamental problem right now is that she

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Speaker 13: is the sitting Vice president of the United States, and

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Speaker 13: she has been responsible just as responsible, frankly as Joe

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Speaker 13: Biden for all of the policies and as you point out,

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Speaker 13: all of the non policies that have been implemented or

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Speaker 13: not implemented for the past three and a half years now.

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Speaker 13: She is responsible for the worst economy in decades, for

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Speaker 13: a formal recession in twenty twenty two. She's responsible for

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Speaker 13: the nine point one percent annualize inflation rate that was

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Speaker 13: reached two years ago on the summer in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 13: She's responsible for the box withdrawal from Afghanistan in twenty

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Speaker 13: twenty one that made America look like a laughingstock, Wars

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Speaker 13: in Russia, Ukraine, wars in the Middle East, the Middle

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Speaker 13: East of tender Box. I could go on, but Kamala

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Speaker 13: Harris is responsible for the horrific policies of this current administration,

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Speaker 13: and she is trying so hard to not talk about that.

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Speaker 13: And the media, obviously, as you're well aware of Rita,

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Speaker 13: is completely abetting this. They are not asking her about

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Speaker 13: her actual track record. They are not bringing up the

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Speaker 13: fact that she was the borders are that she is

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Speaker 13: singularly responsible, more than anyone else in the entire administration

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Speaker 13: for the absolute cataclysm of in invading legal aliens out

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Speaker 13: the American southern border. But she's trying to have her

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Speaker 13: cake and eat it too, and unfortunately, the media, like

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Speaker 13: I said, is letting her do it. So the onus

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Speaker 13: falls on the Trump campaign to ask the actual hard

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Speaker 13: questions and to try to break through this media induced

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Speaker 13: collective bubble around her. It's really quite a mass.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, the media campaign is possibly more astonishing than Kamala's

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Speaker 4: own campaign. And we know she's been as you said,

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Speaker 4: a disaster is the borders are. The media is trying

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Speaker 4: to whitewash that record. But look at this clip from

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Speaker 4: the last time she ran for president, back in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 4: where the good senator pledge to close immigration detention centers

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Speaker 4: if she ever became president. I want to know, when

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Speaker 4: you become president, would you be committing to close the

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Speaker 4: immigration detention centers?

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Speaker 17: Absolutely on day one.

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Speaker 3: On day one, Josh day one.

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Speaker 4: Again not saying much blowback or scrutiny about those comments

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Speaker 4: by Kamahala Harris, but these comments are being often unearthed.

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Speaker 3: On x by citizen journalists.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: Look, I mean this is someone who, as you and

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Speaker 13: I have discussed in the past three and this is

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Speaker 13: someone who in twenty eighteen I believed the year was

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Speaker 13: compared ice to the Ku Klux Klan here in America.

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Speaker 13: This is someone who when she was campaigning for president

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Speaker 13: in the year twenty twenty, she said that she wanted

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Speaker 13: to make illegally crossing the border not an actual crime

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Speaker 13: punishable by time in prison or in a DHS or

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Speaker 13: CBP facility, but rather just a mere slap on the

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Speaker 13: rest or a monetary fine at best. I mean, this

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Speaker 13: is someone who comes from a border state, California, but

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Speaker 13: in every position that she has ever held back in

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Speaker 13: her home state in California, whether it was DA whether

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Speaker 13: it was Attorney General, whether it was US Center, from

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Speaker 13: that date has done everything possible to abet the flow

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Speaker 13: of illegal alien coming across that very poorous southern border,

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Speaker 13: and certainly her time as Vice president of the United States.

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Speaker 10: I mean, anyone who.

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Speaker 13: Could even look even remotely objectively, even remotely objectively at

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Speaker 13: the situation at the US Mexico border would deem that

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Speaker 13: the past three and a half years have been an

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Speaker 13: unmitigated catastrophic capital f failure. And again, Kamala Harris is

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Speaker 13: now trying to embrace this tough on border, tough on

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Speaker 13: crime rhetoric. She's out there with all these ads in

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Speaker 13: these heavily Hispanic Southwestern states like Nevada, Arizona states that

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Speaker 13: are leading Trump saying that she is somehow like like

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Speaker 13: Sheriff Joe R. Payo and Arizona that she's like a

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Speaker 13: staunch border hawk. I mean, this is Soviet style provda disinformation.

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Speaker 13: I mean just THATY are just lying to you. I

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Speaker 13: do not know how else to say it. So again,

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Speaker 13: the question at this point is whether or not the

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Speaker 13: voters in the swing states, including those two aforementioned southwestern

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Speaker 13: states that I mentioned, Arizona, Nevada, are they going to

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Speaker 13: fall for the lie or is the actual record going

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Speaker 13: to come up? And again, the responsibility for making sure

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Speaker 13: that the conversation stays on the substantive issues in the

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Speaker 13: track record, in theory ought to be the media. They're

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Speaker 13: not doing their jobs. What that means is that the

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Speaker 13: Trump Vance campaign has to break through that fog and

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Speaker 13: to get the message out there. They have to remind

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Speaker 13: the voters, remind them of the moderates, independence of the

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Speaker 13: swing Steve voters, just how terrible her record is, including

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Speaker 13: on the all important immigration issue.

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Speaker 4: And on Kamala's record as a prosecutor who puts away felons.

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Speaker 4: That's something they've been very strongly pushing to some sort

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Speaker 4: of law and order crusader. Well, we all know how

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Speaker 4: that went in California. And one of the laws the

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Speaker 4: VP authored could see a pedophile who raped and murdered

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Speaker 4: an eight year old girl freed in a couple of months.

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Speaker 9: Josh.

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Speaker 4: This could be largely because of a law Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: authored when she was California's Attorney General. It hasn't reed

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Speaker 4: saved much coverage. This offender was under eighteen when this

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Speaker 4: offense took place, and under this law that has been

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Speaker 4: authored by Kamala Harris, he could be released from October. Again,

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Speaker 4: this seems to be disqualifying on its own the manner

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Speaker 4: in which she has contributed to the decay in California.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, look, I mean Kama Harris's track record when she

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Speaker 13: was Attorney General of California. I mean she single handedly

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Speaker 13: led the charge on a multiple massive jailbreak pieces of legislation,

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Speaker 13: very much including this one. She was a staunch defender

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Speaker 13: of so called juvenile justice, which results in horrifica trosties.

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Speaker 13: Much like this headline that The Daily Mail is doing

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Speaker 13: a huge public service and actually trying to bring to

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Speaker 13: the forefront of the conversation there. Look, personally speaking, I

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Speaker 13: mean as a lawyer myself, as someone who back when

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Speaker 13: I was a federal law clerk here in Texas, I

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Speaker 13: mean I saw all sorts of horrific horrific fact pattern

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Speaker 13: sex trafficking and human trafficking. I mean, my personal two

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Speaker 13: cents on this is that if you are a bad dude,

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Speaker 13: then you should be behind bars for the rest of

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Speaker 13: your life, essentially, period, full stop, end of story. Everyone

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Speaker 13: has due process, you have your right to appeal. That's

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Speaker 13: bread and butter English common law stuff. But when you

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Speaker 13: are a bad person at a certain point, you do

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Speaker 13: not deserve parole. You cannot be let out on bail.

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Speaker 13: And I sincerely worry I actually read it that there

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Speaker 13: were even some people on the American Rights actually tragedy

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Speaker 13: who have forgotten that a lot of people kind of

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Speaker 13: got swept up in the storm of criminal justice reform,

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Speaker 13: you know. Fortunately, I guess unfortunately it took really the

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Speaker 13: George Floyd riots of twenty twenty and skyrocketing violent and

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Speaker 13: property crime rates. I think for even of my fellow

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Speaker 13: conservatives to kind of come back to reality check here

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Speaker 13: on this issue. But again, it's a very, very very

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Speaker 13: crucial issue for many swing stay voters. Crime is typically

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Speaker 13: the number three issue of most of our polls right now,

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Speaker 13: behind the economy and immigration, and as long as it

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Speaker 13: continues to be the case, it is yet another issue

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Speaker 13: along with immigration that is right for the picking for

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Speaker 13: the Trump Fans campaign to procute the proscute the case

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Speaker 13: pun very much intended.

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Speaker 17: Now.

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Speaker 4: We mentioned earlier that Kamalo so desperate for popular policies

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Speaker 4: because there aren't too many policies on her official website,

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Speaker 4: that she's stealing them from Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a look at that.

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Speaker 9: When I get to office, we are going to not

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Speaker 9: charge taxes on tips people making.

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Speaker 17: Tips, eliminate taxes on tips for service and hospitality workers.

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Speaker 3: Oh Josh.

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Speaker 4: Not only did the media not slam Kamala for brazenly

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Speaker 4: stealing a Trump policy without any credit, but look at

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Speaker 4: the way they report the story in their headlines. Take CBS,

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Speaker 4: for example. This is how they reported the policy when

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Speaker 4: Trump released it, highlighting that it will cost the government

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Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty million dollars over ten years according

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Speaker 4: to a non partisan watchdog group.

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Speaker 3: But this is how they reported.

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Speaker 4: It after Kamala stole the policy and announced it. Vice

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Speaker 4: President Kamala Harris is rolling out a new policy position

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Speaker 4: saying she'll fight to end taxes on tips for service

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Speaker 4: and hospitality workers.

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Speaker 3: Media bias. What media bias?

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Speaker 13: Josh, Yeah, I mean that's just unbelievable stuff right there.

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Speaker 13: I mean CBS News bear in mind, reader, is the

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Speaker 13: exact same news outlet that that, for about two to

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Speaker 13: two and a half years if I have the time

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Speaker 13: frame right, insisted over and over again that the Hunter

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Speaker 13: Biden laptop story was just Russian disinformation, and eventually CBS

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Speaker 13: News buried in like the eighth or ninth paragraph of

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Speaker 13: some unrelated article, they did a mayor culple like you

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Speaker 13: know what are bad? Actually it was a legitimate laptop there.

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Speaker 13: So you know, this is the CBS like most of

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Speaker 13: the other major networks here, I mean ABC News, one

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Speaker 13: of CBS's major competitors. ABC News has George Stephanopolis as

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Speaker 13: their lead political anchor. This is someone who literally ran

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Speaker 13: the Bill Clinton campaign in ninety two, So you know,

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Speaker 13: these hacks definitely are not hiding it. Look, I mean,

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Speaker 13: I'm not surprised that Kamala Harris is a plagiariss when

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Speaker 13: it comes to policy, because her twenty twenty running mate

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Speaker 13: Joe Biden was actually an admitted plagiarists back when he

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Speaker 13: was in university. He was very much accused and then

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Speaker 13: ultimately decades later, admitted that he was a plagiarists. I

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Speaker 13: can't remember if it was in college or law school.

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Speaker 13: So plagiarism seems to run very much in kind of

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Speaker 13: the Democratic Party DNA at this particular point there, But

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Speaker 13: ultimately it's kind of a refresher here. That's very difficult

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Speaker 13: to kind of outpander the Democrats, even if you try

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Speaker 13: to kind of put a sound policy into place to

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Speaker 13: try to help out some blue collar people amidst this

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Speaker 13: Bidenomics terrible economy. The Democrats have no shame whatsoever. They're

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Speaker 13: gonna try to just double triple U, quadruple you up,

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Speaker 13: trying to basically just panter to as many people as possible.

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Speaker 13: That's how they buy votes, that's how they win elections.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, now let's talk about Tim Walls.

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Speaker 4: The Harris campaign is desperately trying to silence rumors that

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Speaker 4: he campaigned on stolen valor. A campaign spokesman, though, has

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Speaker 4: admitted to CNN that the governor misspoke. I love that term, misspoke.

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Speaker 4: When he talked about his time in combat. Here is

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Speaker 4: a little bit of the governor misspeaking.

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Speaker 9: Sure that those weapons of war that I carried in

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Speaker 9: war is the only place where those weapons were.

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Speaker 3: At carrying weapons of war.

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Speaker 4: Now, Battalion Commander John Colb, who ran Walls's former unit,

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Speaker 4: is accusing the VP nominee of misrepresenting his rank in

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Speaker 4: the military. Walls has claimed he reached the rank of

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Speaker 4: command sergeant major with the National Guard.

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Speaker 3: But that doesn't appear to be the full story.

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Speaker 13: Josh, no, it's very much not. And you know, look,

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Speaker 13: Tim Walls is obviously a liar. I mean, he should

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Speaker 13: be thanked for the service that he actually held, but

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Speaker 13: he should not be thanked for service that he egregiously

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Speaker 13: and falsely claimed that he hell that he did not

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Speaker 13: actually do. And the craziest thing to kind of yet

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Speaker 13: again go back to media bias, which I guess is

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Speaker 13: kind of our late motif of the show, but to

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Speaker 13: kind of go back to that, the media has been

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Speaker 13: juxtaposing Tim Walls here in America as this great military hero.

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Speaker 13: While they're doing that side by side with JD. Van's

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Speaker 13: you know, you'd be hard pressed to find any mainstream

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Speaker 13: media article here recently talking about JD. Vance's own military service.

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Speaker 3: JD.

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Speaker 13: Van served in the Marines in a rack. Unlike Tim Walls,

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Speaker 13: he was actually there. He signed up to defend his

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Speaker 13: country overseas during the height of the War on Terror,

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Speaker 13: unlike the guy on the other side of the ticket. So,

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Speaker 13: you know, this side by side comparison is really remarkable

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Speaker 13: if the media actually wants to tell the correct story there.

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Speaker 13: But you know, politically speaking, I'm wondering if this whole

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Speaker 13: stolen valor story, and it very much seems to be

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Speaker 13: outright an objective, egregious even stolen valor, I have to

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Speaker 13: wonder if this is going to play in those Midwestern states,

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Speaker 13: in particular those rust spelt sides. There are a lot

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Speaker 13: of veterans in these days, you know, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 13: There is a disproportionately large percentage of US military veterans

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Speaker 13: in these states. If there was any demographic, any voting

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Speaker 13: group out there who ought to and really really should

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Speaker 13: take offense at this egregious act of stolen valor, it

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Speaker 13: is veterans who actually did decide to fight and risk

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Speaker 13: risk dying frankly for the country. So we'll see if

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Speaker 13: it pays political dividends. But again, yet again, the media

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Speaker 13: is doing their best to fluff it off and pretend

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Speaker 13: like there's no big deal. But there is very much

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Speaker 13: a very big deal here.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, they shoot people care about.

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Speaker 3: But you're right.

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Speaker 4: If you google this topic, the top search results are

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Speaker 4: almost all gas lighting us that are all almost all

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Speaker 4: presenting Walls of some war hero who's any questioning of

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Speaker 4: his record is fake news. And then there's all sorts

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Speaker 4: of question marks over vance who was actually there and

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Speaker 4: who signed up to be there, As you said, at

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Speaker 4: the height of the battle. Now it's not just the

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Speaker 4: American media acting as the Democrats propaganda am our own

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Speaker 4: nine news nine papers have claimed the nickname tampon Tim,

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Speaker 4: which has been trending on x leveled against him Walls,

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Speaker 4: is actually backfiring because it highlights Walls's effort to combat

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Speaker 4: period poverty by putting free menstruation products in Minnesota public

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Speaker 4: school bathrooms. Now, somehow, Josh, in this piece that ran

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Speaker 4: for some thousand words, the author missed the key point

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Speaker 4: the fact that Wolves is mocked as tampon Tim, not

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Speaker 4: because he made tampons available for girls, but because he

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Speaker 4: put tampons in boys' bathrooms in schools across Minnesota. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how you write a thousand words and

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Speaker 4: somehow missed the key point.

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Speaker 3: But that's the Australian media for.

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Speaker 4: You, Josh, much better than what you've got in the US.

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Speaker 3: Thank you again for your time this evening. It's always

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Speaker 3: a pleasure.

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Speaker 13: Always a pleasure.

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Speaker 10: Thank you.

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Speaker 17: Rita.

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Speaker 4: Coming up next, a de transitioner debunks the lies.

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Speaker 3: She was fed by the gender cult. Welcome back now.

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Speaker 4: My next guest is a woman who spent years identifying

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Speaker 4: as a transman, but after moving to Israel and living

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Speaker 4: in the war zone created by October seven, Maya realized

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Speaker 4: that many of the lies told by the left about

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Speaker 4: her mass extentalize about gender ideology, lies she previously believed.

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Speaker 4: She's now living as a woman and is on a

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Speaker 4: mission to debunk the misinformation and false premises coming from

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Speaker 4: institutions that led her to transition in the first place.

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Speaker 4: My poet joins me, now, now I want to start

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Speaker 4: with a tweet you sent that caught my eye. You

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Speaker 4: talk about pediac trick gender medicine existing because adult outcomes

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Speaker 4: were so poor that Dutch researchers concluded that preventing children's

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Speaker 4: natural puberty allowed them to pass better as adults passes

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Speaker 4: the new gender, and that whole idea of trans kids

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Speaker 4: was created to affirm the idea of trans adults. Explain

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Speaker 4: that to me, because I think that's such a crucially

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Speaker 4: important point.

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Speaker 18: Yeah, absolutely, Thank you Rida so much for having me on.

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Speaker 18: So the way I see this entire revolution of gender

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Speaker 18: medicine going is essentially that these ideologues, they you know,

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Speaker 18: they subscribe to a certain ideology which presupposes that every

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Speaker 18: single person has this thing called the gender identity, or

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Speaker 18: an internal sense of their own sex. And these idea

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Speaker 18: logs argue that this sense, this internal sense of one

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Speaker 18: sex is innate. And so, you know, previously when we

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Speaker 18: only saw this phenomenon really occurring in adults, and we

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Speaker 18: really only saw this phenomenon occurring in adults who were

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Speaker 18: seeking treatments to change the appearance of their secondary and

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Speaker 18: primary sexual characteristics. You know, in order for this ideology

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Speaker 18: to work, essentially, these researchers and all of the people

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Speaker 18: who subscribed to this ideology essentially had to claim that

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Speaker 18: you know, it's inborn, that it's innate. So if there

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Speaker 18: are these transgender or as it was called back in

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Speaker 18: the time, these transsexual adults that exist, therefore, by you know,

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Speaker 18: logical extension, there need to be these children who are

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Speaker 18: also transgender. So one idea feeds directly right into the next.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Now tell me about your own story.

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Speaker 4: Why did you transition and identify as a transman for

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Speaker 4: so many years?

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Speaker 18: So I started identifying as transgender in the year twenty twelve,

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Speaker 18: at the age of twelve. So I was really an

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Speaker 18: early adopter of this identity in this ideology. And the

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Speaker 18: way I see it is that when I was twelve

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Speaker 18: years old, I really didn't know what was actually going

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Speaker 18: on with me. I was starting I was starting to

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Speaker 18: experience crushes on other girls, and I didn't know what

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Speaker 18: crushes were. I thought that crush was the orange soda,

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Speaker 18: and I thought that all the sensations that I was

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Speaker 18: feeling in my body around other girls were sensations that

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Speaker 18: I could, you know. I looked them up on WebMD,

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Speaker 18: and WebMD told me that I was either sick with

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Speaker 18: a flu or coming down with some kind of a

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Speaker 18: neurodegenerative condition. So I didn't know what that was actually

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Speaker 18: going on with me. And I went in search of answers.

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Speaker 18: I grew up in a progressive city, and so I

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Speaker 18: had seen men undergoing what was called sex changes, and

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Speaker 18: I wanted to know whether or not it was possible

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Speaker 18: for a girl or a woman to do the same

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Speaker 18: and to become a boy or a man. So I

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Speaker 18: went on the Internet because as a kid, I liked

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Speaker 18: to do medical research. I was interested previously when I

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Speaker 18: was about eight or nine in super rare brand tumors,

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Speaker 18: and so I developed a certain level of research skills

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Speaker 18: online because of that. And so when I had this

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Speaker 18: question pop into my mind, which was, well, could I

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Speaker 18: just become the boy that you know girls would want

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Speaker 18: to be with? And I just type that answer, like

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Speaker 18: that question right into the Internet, and it generated back

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Speaker 18: results from me seeing that it was indeed possible.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's incredible, And so many seem to be finding

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Speaker 4: their way into this world via the Internet social media

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Speaker 4: in particular. Now, how is trans ideology reinforcing some of

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Speaker 4: these outdated gender stereotypes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when I was growing up, you could be

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Speaker 3: a tomboy, that was fine.

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Speaker 4: Nobody suggested you were in the wrong body or you

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Speaker 4: needed puberty blockers and possibly a double misseectomy down the line.

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Speaker 4: But there seems to be now if a boy is effeminate,

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Speaker 4: likes the color pink, he may actually be a girl

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Speaker 4: and vice versa.

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Speaker 3: And it seems so backward.

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Speaker 10: It's extremely backward.

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Speaker 18: And I think that where it comes from is that

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Speaker 18: in general, you know, society seems to not take super

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Speaker 18: kindly to children or to adults who sort of buck norms.

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Speaker 18: And I think that the framework of gender ideology gives

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Speaker 18: people some kind of a conceptual understanding of why there

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Speaker 18: are certain people who tend to be very non conforming

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Speaker 18: from a young age. And so I think that you know,

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Speaker 18: when I was looking up this content online and I

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Speaker 18: saw it as a kid, the way that trans was defined,

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Speaker 18: or the way that this sort of ineffable, unprovable male

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Speaker 18: gender identity was described, was you know, just to the

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Speaker 18: te describing experiences that a lot of young girls face,

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Speaker 18: including discomfort with puberty, which is extremely natural. And also,

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Speaker 18: you know, it's particularly relevant for girls who grew up

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Speaker 18: to be same sex attracted. You know, the types of

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Speaker 18: gender non conforming behavior that a lot of gays and

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Speaker 18: lesbians are sort of known to have engaged in as children.

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Speaker 18: And it seems as if for the last you know,

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Speaker 18: at least a few decades. I mean, I just turned

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Speaker 18: twenty five, so I don't have that much understanding of

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Speaker 18: how parents were parenting their kids twenty thirty years ago.

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Speaker 18: But from my understanding, a lot of parents sort of

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Speaker 18: knew what the likely trajectory of these very nonconforming kids was,

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Speaker 18: and a lot of the studies that were done under

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Speaker 18: the watchful waiting protocol before we medicalize these kids showed

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Speaker 18: that the long term outcomes were that if you don't

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Speaker 18: come near these kids with the injections of the scalpels,

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Speaker 18: most of them, the vast majority, will grow up to

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Speaker 18: be happy gay men and lesbians, and we seem to

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Speaker 18: have just forgotten that wisdom.

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Speaker 4: My poet, thank you so much for your time, and

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Speaker 4: that's it from May. Up next is Newsnight. I'll see

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Speaker 4: you at eleven tomorrow