WEBVTT - "It Could Break the Broncos" — Is Payne Haas Just the Beginning? 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:07.480 Welcome to the Code NRL Show as always Dave Rickio 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:10.520 with Brent Reid and Tyson Jackson. Let's get into it. 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:12.240 Biggest story of the year. 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:16.400 Payne Hears to the South Sydney Rabbit os the contract 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:20.560 done in stealth like mission by Paynhars and his management. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.000 I'm still wrapping my head around this. 0:00:24.200 --> 0:00:26.960 I've heard so many rumors and speculation about why pain 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:31.480 Ass is leaving. He's now addressed the situation via an 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:35.120 in house club interview. I'm always a little bit skeptical 0:00:35.400 --> 0:00:38.120 over an in house club interview Fellas. However, that has 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:42.400 happened over in the UK. Paynes explained his situation and 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:45.800 basically has attempted to water down everything that's been suggested 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:47.920 on why he's leaving. He says he loves the club 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.400 and basically he's doing it for his family. How are 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:52.680 we seeing it? It came as a huge bombshell. 0:00:53.120 --> 0:00:55.520 Yeah, there's a big, big story. Day broke on Sunday 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.920 by Mickey Carianas. He got the tip and we firmed 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:02.040 up got it out there. I think it shocked everyone. Look, 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:05.880 I mean a lot of talk about pain situation and 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.000 why it's happened. As you mentioned. It has been talk 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.360 about his relationship with Madge training too hard. You know 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:15.600 Wayne Bennett, Wayn Bennett's influence on the whole situation. I 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.920 don't think you can underestimate the relationship between Pain and 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.720 Wayn Bennett. It's been long standing. Wayne gave me a start. 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.280 The story has been told that naughs him about how 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.320 Paine was in a car with his father heading to 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.000 the airport to join the Melbourne Storm. Wayne rings him 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.280 and says, get yourself to Redhill. His signs with the 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.640 Broncos makes us to be under Wayne, and they've had 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:38.360 a long standing relationship. They stayed in touch, and Pain 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.119 explained today it's also about family and new challenges. And 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.720 look got to take him to his word, Dave. I 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.360 mean I spoke at length to his manager yesterday and 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.400 he said similar things. This is all about Wayne Bennett 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.240 and Pain looking for fresh challenges. And he raised a 0:01:54.240 --> 0:01:58.120 good point, David. People want to talk about Pain being 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.760 frustrated potentially with the the regime under Michael mcguen. How 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.200 hard it is. This is a guy who his whole 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:08.040 life has been hard work. I mean his dad when 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:10.720 he was a teenager was getting him doing roadrun road 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:12.640 runs to get him ready for his first grade career. 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:14.560 This is the guy has never been afraid of hard work. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:17.280 No one in the NRL works harder, I would argue 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:19.960 than Payn Hass. So that sort of I can understand 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:25.440 their view that that that rumor, that hypothesis doesn't stack up, 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:28.720 because it probably doesn't. Because if you're want a bloke 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:31.680 who's not a verse or afraid of hard work, it's Payin. 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.799 Hasf one thing surprised me, and again I need a 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:40.040 little bit more convincing on this is that In your 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:46.639 interview with Paynehas's manager, Amed Merhe he explained the overwhelming 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:47.800 motivation of what you've. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:49.160 Just explained was Wayne Bennett. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.680 Today on the in House Club interview with pain Ass, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.160 Payne explains that the overriding reason was family. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.639 We can't give Wayne too much for a rap Kenny 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.760 because that would that would know, because that would them 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:05.359 reflect on his current coach. Don't you think if he's 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:07.720 coming out going I wanted to play for Wayne Bennett. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:09.400 He's the greatest coach in the government. 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:10.400 Manager has already done it. 0:03:10.520 --> 0:03:12.600 I know he has. But if Pain's coming out on 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.280 and as you said, it's a Broncos in house video 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.960 and going Wayne Bennett got me too, Sydney. I want 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:21.320 to play Underwayne. That doesn't look great for it should. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.320 Just be like Payins won Set of Origin with Madge. 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.160 He's won a premiership of Madge. How much more can 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:28.800 they do together at the end of the day. You know, 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.880 Wayne was Paint's first four complo. 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:35.040 Another way, he wants he wants a challenge and anyone. 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:37.720 I had a massive chat with Pain last year about 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:40.360 his relationships and what he has going on in Sydney 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:42.280 and he's still just as much here. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:44.160 As he is over in Brisbane. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.600 You know, Like I have no doubt that family played 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:50.720 a big part because there's always been the amount of 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:53.360 work that that bloke does with you know, his his 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.520 siblings and. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.520 He's got he's got a family of his own. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:01.840 Like it's it's pretty amazing the age that he is 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.240 as well and the responsibility that he's taken on. It 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:07.280 does not surprise me one bit that there is a 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.560 massive overarching theme of family here. But like you said, 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.440 Wayne Bennett was probably the the selling point and everything 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:17.000 else just made the decision easier. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.839 And he's taught himself to Wayne and he's got to 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.880 get out, get out of option, tied to Wayne's future 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:24.160 at South and Wayne's only got one year left at 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:27.880 South Sydney and talks of an extension. Paines tied himself 0:04:27.920 --> 0:04:32.560 to that. So you know, I tend to take pain 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:33.120 at his word. 0:04:34.320 --> 0:04:36.719 He's an honest guy. He's not like I'm not saying 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:39.400 I'm not saying he's being dishonest. I'm not saying that 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:39.800 at all. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.719 I just think that the rumors about the coaching stuff 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.200 and situation like he's he had matched before he was 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.560 at the Broncos. He had madged at the Broncos. I 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.520 don't know how all of a sudden there's all these 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:52.840 rumors that there's there's this overarching issue in manage because. 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:58.479 He's the premieri front rower and happy players stay to 0:04:58.560 --> 0:04:59.320 play under the. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:00.520 Coach that they love playing under. 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:02.880 He wants a challenge. That's that's what's pushing. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.839 That's how I'm the biggest believer in coaches have the 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:08.600 ultimate influence over the place. 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.240 I can understand why the rumor is a bit like you, Dave, 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.440 I can understand my first reaction when we got the 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:18.839 news on Sunday was was drama here because a the 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:22.440 Broncos don't traditionally lose players and want to keep and 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:27.280 b He's a powerful club that is going to continue 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:30.719 to contend for years to come. If you're really happy, 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.240 why would you leave? Right? So my reaction is the same. 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.200 Initial reaction was the same as yours. But having spoken 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.200 to his agent and sat back and considered it, right, 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.920 I can see that pain potentially is looking at something. 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:48.039 I mean, Wayne's obviously we've all dealt with Wayne Bennett. Man. 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:50.960 Wayne Bennett sits you down the room. He's a pretty 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.119 convincing guy to be like, he can make your bullet 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.200 leave in anything, right, so I can't. And they have 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.360 a very close relationship. And Latrell's been in his ear, 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:04.480 Dave for Fea's been in his ear telling him how 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.039 good Souse is. I'm sure at the same time they go, mate, 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:10.480 get yourself out of Brisbane. It's a fish bowl. Get 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.960 yourself to Sous. You know you'll love it here. And 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:14.520 I'm sure that's played the part as well. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.039 We've got a snack of clearly, it's been the biggest 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:18.880 story of the week, so we've got heaps of questions 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.200 came through and one was and make sure you do 0:06:22.880 --> 0:06:25.600 write any question you want, send us a comment on 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.279 the comment session. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:28.839 Of the YouTube clips. 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:32.800 But also this one comes through Hals is disloyal. It's 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:36.720 all about the money now if the Broncos can't find 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.559 the money to keep paying ass if you think money 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.159 is the reason, I don't think that for one second. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.760 No, it's definitely not money. And like Payne could walk 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.000 in and name his price at any single. 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:50.960 Club, and particularly the Bronco Yeah, and any. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.000 Club would would give him exactly what he wants because 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.240 he's worth that. It's not about money, and disloyalty is 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:59.120 not how many one club players do we have in 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:00.960 the NRL like that? 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:03.800 I can't think of any of the top of my head. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.360 Really, I disagree a little bit because I think it's 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.120 always about money to extent. 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:09.320 Is he on more money? 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.800 You got more more money at House? Yes, I believe 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:14.400 you got more money at House. Yeah, I'm sure Brisbane 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:19.320 could have come to the party. But I don't think 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.240 it's all about money. But it's always it's to an 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.280 extent about money because the bank is not going to 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:30.280 move for nothings. I reckon he got more out of house. 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.640 I reckon he could have asked the Broncos for more. 0:07:32.560 --> 0:07:35.520 And would we could have on this. I think he 0:07:35.600 --> 0:07:39.680 went this, this is the Brisbane not a situation where 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:40.720 we're not going to go tip. 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:42.960 We've seen in the past where clubs come out and 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.840 declare we simply couldn't go to that level of offer 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:47.600 that the rival club offered. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.240 The Broncos haven't said that. I haven't said. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:52.840 That, and they're not a club that would. But they 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:56.720 would ring the boss of Bloody petrol stations and say, mate, 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:57.640 can you help tip in. 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.880 He'll make a lot of money. They'll find a way 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.120 a lot of money down here and TBAs yeah, yeah, 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:03.800 a lot of money. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.280 I think it's more about the challenge for pain The 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:08.360 Rabbits have struggled for the last couple of years. They 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:10.320 haven't been able to find their feet since they made 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.080 that Grand Final in twenty one. He gets to come here. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.880 I think that they're still not quite there for this year. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.680 Pain Hoss comes Next year, they all of a sudden 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.440 look like a way different team. Just with his inclusion, 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:25.400 they might get more inclusions. They can push for a premiership. 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.360 What if they win the premiership? Actually, Painting Hoss comes 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.680 and completely changes that. You could be a second Premiership 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:31.440 with the Brisbane it's all about money. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.680 I'm saying money always plays a part, but I don't 0:08:34.679 --> 0:08:37.360 think it's the major factor, the most significant factor, not 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.640 by any stretch yet, But I think it is a factor. 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:43.280 How can it be? How can it be a factor when. 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:46.440 You you wouldn't come play, but you just said, you 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.560 just said that. He just said, you just said that 0:08:48.600 --> 0:08:51.280 the Broncos would have matched it, or they would have 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.360 offered him more. So how can that be? If it's 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.640 about the money, then he would stay at Brisbane because 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:59.280 he's on because it is easier to stay in Brisbane 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:00.800 than to come then to come to. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.199 With a massive deal by South. 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.440 You just if it's about money, ready, then he can 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:05.280 just stay because he. 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:07.240 Gone off from Brisbane, he got a big offer from Souse, 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.400 his mind standing and he didn't go. Tip didn't want 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:09.720 to get. 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.920 To me. It's not about money, it's about his decision. 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:18.320 Like did you say that? Because if South softy eight 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:19.720 hundred grand, you think he's going there? 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.280 No? No, but he's not worth one hundred grand. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:27.439 He's not worth money. He's worth the money, but Brisbane money. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:30.360 If Brisbane offered more money and he then goes to Brisbane. 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:31.320 Then that's about the money. 0:09:32.720 --> 0:09:33.600 Obviously they didn't. 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:35.760 He didn't want to give him a chance though, he said, 0:09:35.800 --> 0:09:38.920 he said, I've made a chance with your interview with 0:09:38.920 --> 0:09:42.240 the Armored. Armored said that he made his decision and 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.160 no matter, they're not going to backflip on it, no 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:44.520 matter if. 0:09:44.480 --> 0:09:46.560 They come to table now. So it's not about the money. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:49.160 So he got initial offer from Brisbane, he clearly got 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:51.760 offered more by Souse and he went with that. He 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:52.920 wasn't going to go back to them. 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.760 He made his well to me that says it's not 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.320 about moneys, saying. 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.680 It's all about money, saying money is a part. You 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.880 cannot ignore money. You're going there for nothing. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.680 Do you fear this is the tip of the iceberg 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:06.960 for the Broncos. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:08.360 Not really, because a lot of them are locked in 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.880 long term peasants locked in long term. As was locked 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.520 in long term, Reese is locked in long term payments 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.040 coming off contract, is in a different situation. All those 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.600 other guys, Yeah, Paddy Kagan's locked in long term, who 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:23.600 also got Catoni just one new deal. So it's not no, 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:24.240 I don't think. 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:26.720 Because that's what the cynics are trying to tell us 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.400 down the phone line. The calls have come through that 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:32.880 this blokes are unhappy, could break up the Broncos. 0:10:33.040 --> 0:10:35.400 Yeah, well, inspect to Billy Walters a couple of days 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:38.439 ago and he said that there's yeah he wants He said, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:39.960 he wants to be a Bronco for life if they 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:42.280 will have him. But he said the club's not stressed 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.360 because of the Brisbane Broncos. They'll get players now, they 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.360 might not get another pain ass, but they'll get someone. 0:10:46.200 --> 0:10:46.760 To do the job. 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.400 And he sees them, you know, going on those steps 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:52.440 that that Penith did. They'll lose players and they'll just 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:54.640 they'll just fill gaps and keep plugging away. 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:56.720 This will be a story we keep talking for weeks 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.320 to come. Hey, fellows, I say this every week, but seriously, 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.480 this is out of troll right. Actually, really, you got 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:04.800 a dollar on you If you've got a dollar. 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:09.120 A hold on what's that? What's on your ears? 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:09.600 A dollar? 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:14.880 Multi talented read man, You can now go get a 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:17.280 Code Sports subscription for a dollar. 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:18.160 For one month. 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.280 You get it all videos, prediculars, behind the scenes of training, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.760 the latest features, all the exclusive and breaking news for 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:30.520 dollar one dollar for the first month. Subscription the Zachlmac's affair, 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:36.319 it continues, latest is ready that we are headed for. 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:40.560 Cord only three days before round one eels the Storm. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.280 Yeah, so there's five days set a side and that 0:11:44.559 --> 0:11:49.520 that week for this hearing. Melbourne again this week tried 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.160 to resolve it. Matt Tripped, the chairman of the Storm, 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:56.360 met with Paramatter's chairman, Matt Beach. I think it is 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.920 and they are unable to reach an agreement. So basically 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.760 they're saying now that was the last chance saloon. Now 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:05.240 we go to court in the court room or the 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.160 side Zach Lamos, I find it hard to believe. I 0:12:08.200 --> 0:12:11.240 think they'll speak again before then if they don't March 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.599 two in court. Baby, I really. 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.640 Like the Melbourne Storm and have a lot of respect 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.400 for them as an organization. 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:22.400 How can't you but Jesus stunned how deep they're taking this. 0:12:24.240 --> 0:12:26.520 That Zach's a good player, right, he's a very good player. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.199 He's a good player, right, but he's now walked out 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.160 on the last two clubs. And I just find it 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:37.640 how you wouldn't do a long term they're spending You've 0:12:37.679 --> 0:12:38.640 just answered my question. 0:12:39.440 --> 0:12:42.400 They're spending thousands and thousands and thousands. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.960 Because they're covering this court covering as well as legal fees. Yeah, 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:47.520 well that trip's got plenty. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:54.360 We're not talking about Nathan Cleary. Yeah, but outside back, 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.960 we will add a little bit to their team. 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:59.680 Add a lot to their team. I reckon Dave a lot. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.679 He's a match winner, do you. 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:03.520 Think, Yeah, he's got goal kicking as. 0:13:03.440 --> 0:13:04.760 Well elements of match winning. 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:05.000 Yeah. 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:08.680 I just think they'll be down on what Zach done. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:13.280 I'm just a little bit stunned. 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:14.600 How deep Melbourne taking it. 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:17.400 We got some money to spend, they're looking to spend it. 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:19.680 How do you How can you pull out? If you're Melbourne? 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:21.400 How can you pull out? Now? After you've you've gone? 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:26.559 You can call it off. There's other players they can 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:27.160 keep fishing. 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:27.760 Not many. 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:31.160 I'm a bit, I'm a bit in the whisper going 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.640 around that Paramatt is trying to get Melbourne to take 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:37.040 Ryan Madison as part of the deal, and that seems 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.079 to be a roadblock as well. 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.000 I think that was there was talking about doing a 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:45.600 deal where so to get Madison off their books, Paramount 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:50.680 paid him some money, then Madison, Melbourne signs Madison pays 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.520 him out as well, Right, so Madison becomes a free agent. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.199 But with that payout, Melbourne eats some of the payout. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.400 Apparently you're allowed to do that. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.960 Wow, had enough to get to get this still over 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:02.600 the one just. 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.600 Because I haven't got it done? Is that potentially on 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:07.080 the table? 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:07.560 Is that? 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:10.160 Is it not getting done because of paramatter? Is it 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.320 not getting done because of Melbourne? 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.960 It's not getting minus? Thing is because well, paramatter aren't 0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.560 accepting what Melbourne's proposing. So you could say it's both 0:14:18.640 --> 0:14:19.280 ways right. 0:14:19.120 --> 0:14:22.600 Because but I guess what is paramatter is paramatter saying, hey, 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.640 you take Ryan Madison and we can almost get this done. 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:26.640 Or is there more to it? 0:14:26.840 --> 0:14:28.680 I think there's more to it because I said they 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.160 still want to play it. Melbourne's happy to eat a 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.880 chunk of Madison, pay him out and he'd be free 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.480 to go. But there's obviously more to it. 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.680 So yeah, we're going to rule a line through round one. 0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:40.720 He's not playing around one. 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.200 We should rule a line through. Talking about Zach Lamax 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:48.760 on the show, Are you with Me? I find it 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:52.320 very hard to believe he hasn't even okay, So I 0:14:52.720 --> 0:14:56.520 think they requested permission for him to train the storm 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.160 until the hearing was when they said no, I said no. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.640 So we got heaps of comments. Here what we got 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:03.160 there's one consistent one. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:03.760 What's that? 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:08.040 And it's why the NRL threatened ten year band for 0:15:08.120 --> 0:15:12.600 players signing with R three sixty isn't being enforced against 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.120 Zachi Lomax. 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:16.320 Because he's a good player, Dave, And you're making exceptions 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:19.840 for good players. It's pretty simple. Yeah, pretty simple. He 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.680 was bloggs he'd probably get ten years. But Zach Lomax 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:24.000 is a very good football. 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:25.640 So in the NRL. 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:27.880 Yeah, but Peter said, you. 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.720 Know, in the NRL Card of Conduct and all their 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:31.960 rules and regulations, there's a little asterix in a bracket 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.360 that says, if you're a good player, yes, this rule 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:34.680 does not. 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.960 That's the way all sport works, that's the way life works, Dave. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:43.480 You've got far, you're very available. I'm sure they let 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:45.040 all the maount of things slide with you. 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:50.840 Yeah, be quiet, So no ten year being for that? 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.240 No ten year? I reckon. I still think you'd be 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.160 playing in Melbourne by round two. 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:55.800 Round two. 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.640 We should have I thought overs and unders, we. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.920 Should do a little market share. What do you reckon? 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.400 If it all goes well, in week one, I reckon 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.080 probably round three, round four, I wouldn't. 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:08.920 Put him if he hasn't trained. 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.120 You got around four or five. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.400 I reckay. I'm still an outside hope. But what day 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:18.400 are we now, twenty twelve, I still thinking outside hope 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.440 around one, I'm going to go around one. 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:21.040 With no training. 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:23.960 Well, if it gets done, if it gets started at 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.080 some point within the next seven days, that that's enough time. 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:29.120 You don't think the Eels will enforce the block. 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:32.200 Oh that's true. I forgot about the block idea. Okay, 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:35.080 around two, I reckon, all. 0:16:35.080 --> 0:16:39.280 Right, and then until then we may put a close 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:39.920 on all that. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:41.760 No more Zach Boma's conversation. 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:43.120 Keep your questions coming in. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.640 It's actually quite disappointing to say this because I was 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:50.600 always a massive fan of this contest and the concept, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.720 and that is the NRL All Stars, both Indigenous and 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.800 Maori All Stars. We've had the World All Stars also 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.480 included in the in the fifteen fifteen year life of 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:05.400 the All Stars. Yeah, Preston Campbell initiative, and it has 0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:08.399 done so much good for the game, unbelievable. What the 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:13.360 players do in the community for their cultures and promoting 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:18.440 the pathway system for the next gen players has been significant. However, 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:24.080 when the All Stars concept was first introduced, the Rugby 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:28.280 League calendar did not have the amount of football that 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.760 we have currently in the schedule. And it's my opinion 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:35.720 that either the All Stars needs to go or moved 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.200 to another part of the season, and I certainly think 0:17:39.200 --> 0:17:42.840 the NRL will give it serious consideration whilever Vegas is 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:45.560 still going, while ever we throw more support into the 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.760 international game at the end of the year. There has 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.479 to be something has to give, and unfortunately, I think 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.160 it's the All Stars. And I say it, guys, I said, disappointingly. Again, 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.560 we've hardly we've hardly mentioned you know what's on this weekend? 0:17:58.800 --> 0:17:59.080 Is it? 0:17:59.400 --> 0:17:59.960 Yeah? 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:01.000 Oh wow? 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.000 You might struggle to name more than five players in there. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.800 That's the other big thing too. The coaches aren't supporting it. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:13.480 They reluctantly support it. We have preseason trial matches live 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.520 on Telly now that never used to be the case. 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.760 It is such a congested preseason. 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:21.240 What do we do? I think I think we have 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:22.679 to move it or scrap it. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:24.840 What do you got? Are you putting it? 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.160 I went I went down to Mascot the other day 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.640 where the Indigenous team was training. I spoke to Jack 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.480 Whiten about this and he's so adamant that it needs 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:36.359 to stay and whatnot. He said that if we're going 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:40.200 to trial anyway, why can't the Indigenous boys, the Maldi 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:44.439 boys and girls just trial in this game. So I 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:45.560