Speaker 1: From the sky in Center. This is Paul Murray Live.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Charwy you join us on a tough night.
Speaker 1: There's some news that is coming out of Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: You know, I've had the helicopter and the plane the
Speaker 1: collision that took place quite a few hours ago. The
Speaker 1: main headline on the Australian's website right now is that
Speaker 1: there are, according to their information, God bless their souls,
Speaker 1: no survivors in relation to what has taken place in Washington.
Speaker 1: Our worst potential fear here is it sixty four people
Speaker 1: have died. Sixty people were on the flight from Kansas
Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. There was at least three crew
Speaker 1: members that were on the Army Blackhawk helicopter. Fox News
Speaker 1: is reporting in this hour and it's just gone five
Speaker 1: am in Washington, DC, as it's nine pm on Sydney, Melbourne,
Speaker 1: Canberra at time APM in Queensland. They are reporting that
Speaker 1: it's not referred to as a standard black Hawk helicopter.
Speaker 1: Obviously the consequences will become a lot clearer. Sunrise is
Speaker 1: due in Washington officially in the next two hours first light.
Speaker 1: We'll obviously be slightly before that. The rescue efforts happened
Speaker 1: going all night. That weather is about one degree and
Speaker 1: I've just received a message from our production team, thank
Speaker 1: you guys, that there is going to be a briefing
Speaker 1: from the Mayor of Washington, DC at seven thirty local times,
Speaker 1: so that's another two and a half hours so before
Speaker 1: midnight here in Australia. We'll get more information. If I
Speaker 1: know anything more between now and the end of the show,
Speaker 1: obviously I'll bring in more information and I'm going to
Speaker 1: have a chat to a pilot about what you do
Speaker 1: when you see something coming towards you. Are you able
Speaker 1: to make the evasive action? Is it something that you've
Speaker 1: got to wait for somebody to give you permission to do.
Speaker 1: What role does the tower play in all of this?
Speaker 1: That's the biggest story that's happening in the world. There's
Speaker 1: huge stories that are happening here at home, including what
Speaker 1: Charry just broke to you about the specific locations that
Speaker 1: were left on the note inside the caravan with the explosives.
Speaker 1: On top of that, people are being released as we
Speaker 1: speak by their captors in Hamas. These are live shots
Speaker 1: of three people that are being released in the process
Speaker 1: of it is a twenty year old woman who was
Speaker 1: taken from the idea of surveillance unit in an army
Speaker 1: base on October the seventh. One is also a twenty
Speaker 1: nine year old woman who was taken from their home
Speaker 1: on October the seventh, and one is a seventy nine
Speaker 1: year old now eighty year old man who was taken
Speaker 1: from his kibbutz again on the day when we know
Speaker 1: more and we see more pictures, but when one of
Speaker 1: the emphasis of the Israeli government was to end hamas
Speaker 1: fairly Obviously, the slow release of the hostages and the
Speaker 1: number in which people are carrying the flags, holding the uniforms,
Speaker 1: they're trying to send a message about what power they
Speaker 1: still have over the region. But obviously this is part
Speaker 1: of the process. As people leave every few days, three
Speaker 1: more out. We will tell you more about that as
Speaker 1: it all rolls on. Plus, I'm going to have a
Speaker 1: chat to somebody in and around the beer brewing community
Speaker 1: of Australia about our conversation about excise. Now, as I've
Speaker 1: spanged on about all week, sixty three percent of bottle
Speaker 1: of Bundy rum that's tax. It's a little less, but
Speaker 1: it's still a lot. When we're talking about beer. How
Speaker 1: do we fight it. The sneaky taxes, we'll talk about that,
Speaker 1: and remember Chris Bowen's promise that you'll be able to
Speaker 1: buy whatever car you want under the new environmental rules. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what, there's a good chance he was lying. On
Speaker 1: top of all of that. Big weather issues were taking place,
Speaker 1: particularly in the north of Queensland, in and around Cans
Speaker 1: A little higher, a little lower. How's this? There was
Speaker 1: so much rain that in some parts. In fact, at
Speaker 1: mant Sofia nine hundred and twenty five millimeters the best
Speaker 1: part of a meter of rain had fallen in just
Speaker 1: twenty four hours eight hundred and seventy three not too
Speaker 1: far from there as well. Here's the latest coming from
Speaker 1: the emergency officials in that part of the world.
Speaker 2: The threats not over. We asked the community up there
Speaker 2: to stay in contact with our alerts because as this
Speaker 2: tropical low forms and moves back towards the coast, we're
Speaker 2: going to see pretty well similar rainfalls again, if not more.
Speaker 1: The local officials, of course, they want you to stay
Speaker 1: across all the information that's coming from local council as
Speaker 1: well as local radio. We'll try to give you the
Speaker 1: information air support all night here on Sky News, but
Speaker 1: it on Fox still Flash or Free to Wear Las.
Speaker 3: One of cyclone Jash Park, which some of our residents
Speaker 3: still haven't actually got over. They still have houses in disrepair,
Speaker 3: so it's going to be quite traumatic if we happen
Speaker 3: to have another event.
Speaker 1: Poor buggers for an explanation of what exactly was behind
Speaker 1: all of this, and yet I get it. It's the
Speaker 1: way that things work, and sadly it's the tragic tale
Speaker 1: of a country that has always been subject to the
Speaker 1: foibles of the weather. Here is the latest from Sky
Speaker 1: on New's Weather our twenty four hour Weather channel.
Speaker 4: Four hundred and nine millimeters in the last four days
Speaker 4: and the potential to see up to a meter by
Speaker 4: the end of the week. We do have right now
Speaker 4: a tropical low and a well developed monsoon trough continuing
Speaker 4: to allow these storms to fire up and produce heavy rainfall.
Speaker 1: Now, speaking about weather in the broader issues of climate,
Speaker 1: we know that lefty people, whenever there are events like this,
Speaker 1: they're going to say the same thing over and over again,
Speaker 1: climate change.
Speaker 5: Of climate change, climate change, climate chain, climate.
Speaker 1: Change, climate change, climate change, the promise meaning that if
Speaker 1: you follow what they want to do, then somehow the
Speaker 1: weather will change. The only problem is that even if
Speaker 1: Austrated did everything that the lefties or the un wanted,
Speaker 1: we will not change the weather. Why because, as we
Speaker 1: have shown you many times, independent group the tracks each
Speaker 1: nation and how much that it produces. When it comes
Speaker 1: to CEO two, you can see that China, the rest
Speaker 1: of the world, the United States, India, or a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of other places weigh in front of us Australia
Speaker 1: one percent of the world's problem. Of course, we're supposed
Speaker 1: to be hitting the zero of one percent of the
Speaker 1: world's problem. By twenty thirty the government has signed into
Speaker 1: legislation forty three percent of one percent of the world's problem.
Speaker 1: Part of the way they were going to get there
Speaker 1: was a piece of legislation which we were told was dead,
Speaker 1: buried and cremated. It was gone, it was not to return.
Speaker 1: It was a bad deal. It's called nature positive. Now
Speaker 1: this has been building for some time. There was a
Speaker 1: deal that was done between the government and the Greens,
Speaker 1: Pocock and the rest. There was a pathway through the parliament.
Speaker 1: But because the devil is always in the detail, and
Speaker 1: people were aware of what the detail was.
Speaker 2: Whole idea of this nature positive bill. There's nothing positive
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 6: I might just say it's effectively putting the foxes in
Speaker 6: charge of the chicken coop. It's going to be a
Speaker 6: wet blanket over the WA economy and that would be disastered,
Speaker 6: not just for the WA economy, with the national economy
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 1: They killed the legislation. They also killed the legislation because
Speaker 1: the leader of Western Australia said, please don't do this
Speaker 1: until after I'm potentially re elected in a few weeks time.
Speaker 1: At the time, Roger Cook said that he'd spoken of
Speaker 1: the highest levels of the federal government to reiterate his
Speaker 1: view that the bill in its current form should not
Speaker 1: be progressed. Why because one of the reasons why West
Speaker 1: Australia was one of the strongest states that voted no
Speaker 1: at the referendum that Anthony Abeneasy was pushing for half
Speaker 1: a billion dollars a couple of years ago. That was
Speaker 1: his priority when cost of living was out of control,
Speaker 1: when his government was taking fifteen hundred dollars off ten
Speaker 1: million workers. Remember how all of this was supposed to
Speaker 1: go well. Of course, the Cultural Heritage legislation, which meant
Speaker 1: that it was virtually impossible to do anything to major
Speaker 1: properties or even your property in Western Australia were so
Speaker 1: heavily rejected that even the people who introduced the legislation
Speaker 1: who now have left the Parliament have now acknowledged there
Speaker 1: was a bad piece of legislation. Those that are critical
Speaker 1: of nature positive have said that it is a backdoor
Speaker 1: way of achieving exactly the same thing, this time not
Speaker 1: under the cover of Aboriginal heritage, but instead about trying
Speaker 1: to do our bit to cut forty three percent of
Speaker 1: one percent of the world's problem when China, remember, can
Speaker 1: pollute thirty times more than we do, and they don't
Speaker 1: have to pull in their heads at all until at
Speaker 1: least twenty thirty, and then zero is not twenty forty
Speaker 1: or twenty fifty, but is allegedly twenty sixty, as if
Speaker 1: any of the politicians that signed the deals now will
Speaker 1: be around to enforce that or punished China when it
Speaker 1: inevitably does not hit such a mark. But because we
Speaker 1: have a Prime minister who has always been the type
Speaker 1: of each way on something where understands that his government
Speaker 1: will both write the legislation and pull the legislation that
Speaker 1: he also needs to make sure that people on his
Speaker 1: left flank who will not have to live with many
Speaker 1: of the consequences of this legislation, well, he still wants
Speaker 1: them to either vote Green and then preference the Labor Party,
Speaker 1: or ideally vote for the Labour Party first. So we
Speaker 1: noticed at the time that the Prime Minister did not
Speaker 1: say that this thing was gone. He did not say
Speaker 1: that this thing will not be reintroduced. Instead, our assumption
Speaker 1: was that they would either find a way to do
Speaker 1: it before the next federal election. But that was when
Speaker 1: we didn't think Parliament was coming back. The Prime Minister
Speaker 1: dragging and trying to avoid an election for as long
Speaker 1: as possible for the most obvious of frightened reasons, might
Speaker 1: have a chance to put it back into the Parliament
Speaker 1: and well live up to the deal that he'd already done.
Speaker 1: This could be in place by election time. But mark
Speaker 1: your words, if they get re elected, especially with the
Speaker 1: Greens being the dog that's going to wag the tail,
Speaker 1: they were most certainly introduce it. And this is a
Speaker 1: big issue in Western Australia. As I've showed you in
Speaker 1: chapter and verse about the number of marginal seats in
Speaker 1: Western Australia. The Labour Party is only able to form
Speaker 1: a majority because of how well it did in Western Australia.
Speaker 1: Electoral gravity would suggest they could lose a couple of
Speaker 1: the four seats that they won over there, and that
Speaker 1: would of course push them into minority. And there's a
Speaker 1: bit about the Prime Minister and what he thinks is
Speaker 1: going to happen at the election that will shock you
Speaker 1: in a moment or two time. But while downder the
Speaker 1: front page of the West Australian, they scream loudly. Then
Speaker 1: Anthony Aberze's failure to say that this thing is dead, buried, cremated, gone,
Speaker 1: not coming back, not two point zero, not a new version,
Speaker 1: not a side door, is going to put him in
Speaker 1: a world of trouble. As they have said about nature
Speaker 1: positive put simply, this would ruin in part the West
Speaker 1: Australian economy, including many of the seats Labour already takes
Speaker 1: for granted, little ones, the ones they were able to
Speaker 1: win at the last election. Now, interestingly, the West Australian Premier,
Speaker 1: when asked about this today, has doubled down. Now, of
Speaker 1: course he's in the middle of an election campaign, or
Speaker 1: on his way to an election campaign, hoping for a
Speaker 1: second term. Of that third term, I should say of
Speaker 1: that Labor government. Well, let's have a look here. The
Speaker 1: West Australia Premier has warned East Coast Lata sippers about
Speaker 1: the nature positive laws. This was the Premier speaking today
Speaker 1: in Western Australia about the laws that Albo might bring
Speaker 1: in before the election, but beat your life he will
Speaker 1: after the election. I hope you're paying attention WA. Look,
Speaker 1: I'm barracking for Wa. I'll stand up for Wa.
Speaker 7: I always do, and on nature positive laws, I stood
Speaker 7: up for WA.
Speaker 1: Meantime, the opposition leader via The Nightly, which is a
Speaker 1: subset of the West Australian newspaper, says here that the
Speaker 1: nature positive laws are a two card trick. Dare I say?
Speaker 1: And each way albow. Here is what the alternative prime
Speaker 1: minister had to say, knowing that if he's going to
Speaker 1: get even close to minority government, he's got a win
Speaker 1: big in Western Australia. This could be the difference. As
Speaker 1: we know in WA.
Speaker 6: The Prime Minister's been playing this two card trick which
Speaker 6: hasn't worked. And the fact is that the Prime Minister,
Speaker 6: I think is being deceitful with the population in wa
Speaker 6: Wa and its economy thrives on mining and agriculture. And
Speaker 6: we now find out that there's a secret deal that's
Speaker 6: been signed between the Greens and the Labor Party about
Speaker 6: introducing a bill which will stop mining in its tracks
Speaker 6: in wa.
Speaker 1: Pay attention, don't get annoyed after the election. Be aware
Speaker 1: of what is happening right now, right now, because if
Speaker 1: Parliament does come back for a couple of weeks, because
Speaker 1: we might be towards an April or even later election,
Speaker 1: they will have a chance to go back into the parliament.
Speaker 1: If they do go back into the parliament, well, will
Speaker 1: this be what they need to keep Green's preferences watch
Speaker 1: this space Western Australia in particular, but also part of
Speaker 1: the fight to cut forty three percent of one percent
Speaker 1: of the world's global emissions. Australia is apparently going to well.
Speaker 1: Has actually put in place a new regime to make
Speaker 1: sure that the cars that you want to buy are
Speaker 1: either going to become more expensive or maybe potentially not available.
Speaker 1: Why because they pollute too much. We look at the
Speaker 1: figures today, top five cars that were sold in Australia
Speaker 1: last year. Number one the Ford Ranger, big massive beautiful car.
Speaker 1: And I'm a old man, but I can still recognize
Speaker 1: game game, recognize this game. I think they said thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, but you get my point. The toy out
Speaker 1: of highlux. Anyone wants to give me one, I'll take
Speaker 1: it in black. As long as it's got Apple car play,
Speaker 1: I'll be having a great old time. Or in Izuo
Speaker 1: Zuo Dmax ut These are some of the cars. Mitsubishi Outlander.
Speaker 1: I think it's another one, but basically not a small car.
Speaker 1: None of the top fives are anywhere near by catchbacks,
Speaker 1: and none of them are of course electric. And remember
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when on the very same
Speaker 1: day the government was increasing the tax on petrol tax
Speaker 1: to now fifty cents per liter. They increased it. They
Speaker 1: were trying to distract by saying, oh, you'll say hundreds
Speaker 1: of dollars, no, thousands of dollars under these new environmental standards. Eventually,
Speaker 1: and ridiculously there was a compromise on these things coming through.
Speaker 1: But remember bowing in the electric car. Everything was going
Speaker 1: to be excellent. This is the future now again. Can
Speaker 1: I just say this, while I am a petrol head
Speaker 1: and I love my V eights and brom brooms and
Speaker 1: old school cars, and I'll hopefully own as loud a
Speaker 1: one as I can before I die. I'm not anti
Speaker 1: electric car. If it works for you, good luck to you,
Speaker 1: all right. The acceleration pretty amazing. The electric moke that
Speaker 1: might be coming out, that'd be a fantastic car for
Speaker 1: me to drive around on the beach if I ever
Speaker 1: get the chance to do so in Queensland or Western Australia. Again,
Speaker 1: but as the market shows, the extreme majority of Australians
Speaker 1: want the cars that they are currently purchasing to be
Speaker 1: the ones that will do the job. Do the job
Speaker 1: as a trainee, do the job driving around a family,
Speaker 1: or do the job towing something when it comes to
Speaker 1: a caravan, boat trailer or anything else. Well, you may
Speaker 1: remember that as a way of trying to settle the
Speaker 1: horses that were being startled, because were the cars that
Speaker 1: Australians buying going to be the ones that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: be able to buy or would have a price increase
Speaker 1: because of the rules. This is what Blackout was saying.
Speaker 2: Car companies can continue to import any particular model they wish,
Speaker 2: they must meet.
Speaker 8: A standard across their entire fleet.
Speaker 1: No model will be mandatory, no model will be banned.
Speaker 1: Oh you can trust him, right, like Casanova's never done
Speaker 1: anything wrong, has he? I'll keep it alive for you, Rayd.
Speaker 1: Don't worry Casanova Bowen Why because everything he touches. Matt
Speaker 1: Canavan regular on the show Monday Nights. He couldn't hit
Speaker 1: it harder about how bad the idea was, about how
Speaker 1: the prices were going to go up, and he saw
Speaker 1: everything that was coming. Guess what he was right? Because
Speaker 1: I see today that there are lots of Australian cars
Speaker 1: or people that are cars that are sold in Australia
Speaker 1: the people like to buy that are now canceled. But
Speaker 1: guess what they found remarkably a different way to achieve
Speaker 1: the same goal. It's not the environmental rules. Instead, there's
Speaker 1: new design rules that just happen to rule out many
Speaker 1: of the cars that also are high polluting. Changing the
Speaker 1: Australian design rules for passenger vehicles imported into Australia means
Speaker 1: a handful of popular models will no longer be for sale.
Speaker 1: This website had already reported about the news of the
Speaker 1: Mitsubishiet motors basically getting rid of sixty percent of its range,
Speaker 1: acting the Pajero Sport that'd be a big seven seed
Speaker 1: of four wheel drive, the rather popular ASX, a small suv,
Speaker 1: and the Turbo will plug in hybrid Eclipse Cross all
Speaker 1: big cars. There's no manned. No one will be told
Speaker 1: they cannot buy the car are with this hand and
Speaker 1: this regulation. But with this hand and this regulation, we're
Speaker 1: going to say no, too arduous, and the car company
Speaker 1: say they're not going to sell them. They're also not
Speaker 1: going to be selling a Suzuki as well. So don't
Speaker 1: you love the way they do this. They come out
Speaker 1: they promise no one's going to be adverse as a
Speaker 1: result of this decision, knowing that another decision is coming
Speaker 1: down the pipe. In Canavan we trust, and obviously Canavan
Speaker 1: often is right. But because they like to other him
Speaker 1: and other us and other you and ignore the conversations
Speaker 1: that we take place here, they'll say nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: But you've got to do yourself and your mates a favor.
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Speaker 1: or go to YouTube find sky News, find this editorial
Speaker 1: this bit the thing I am saying now and post
Speaker 1: it on your socials, Send it as an email to
Speaker 1: a couple of mates. Read the word because surprise, surprise,
Speaker 1: what we always knew was going to happen ends up
Speaker 1: happening because they don't tell the truth. Speaking of, let's
Speaker 1: get to the Prime minister who's getting rather cocky about
Speaker 1: the upcoming election, which is a strange place for him
Speaker 1: to be. Now he may know the secret source, he
Speaker 1: may well have already gone to the part in the
Speaker 1: book where he knows what the outcome is. But right now,
Speaker 1: in just a couple of months before an election, the
Speaker 1: polls aren't great. Instead, Pole's pretty good for Peter Dutton,
Speaker 1: take your pick. Voters swing to Dutton as Australians expect
Speaker 1: to be worse off in twenty twenty five, Dutton catches
Speaker 1: Albanezi as preferred prime minister, or the majority of voters
Speaker 1: tip of the coalition to win the next election. Now
Speaker 1: I get it. When you are the one who's on
Speaker 1: the wrong side of those headlines, you're always going to
Speaker 1: back yourself in. And it's one thing to say, look, Poles,
Speaker 1: they come and go media. Whatever truth is, nothing is inevitable.
Speaker 1: We will achieve what we want to achieve. That's the
Speaker 1: real person's answer, right, because you've got to have the
Speaker 1: self confidence. And I understand that everyone is going to
Speaker 1: be standing for Parliament, including the independent that you've never
Speaker 1: heard of, is the feed inc be independent who will
Speaker 1: probably get fewer votes, and even members of their family
Speaker 1: they will, for a small period of time think they're
Speaker 1: going to win. As for every major party candidate everywhere,
Speaker 1: they think there's going to be a chance. As for
Speaker 1: all of the people inside all of the different political parties,
Speaker 1: including the Tels that's a party by the way, they'll
Speaker 1: think they're going to have a record election. Great confidence, confidence, confidence, Fine,
Speaker 1: but there's a very fine line between confidence and arrogance.
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure Australians don't like arrogance. Perfect example
Speaker 1: of it though, is our Prime Minister. It's one thing
Speaker 1: to be confident in the outcome of a federal election.
Speaker 1: It is confident about what you know to be the
Speaker 1: lines of attack that you haven't said yet, the television advertising,
Speaker 1: the way that you'll try to promise, bribe and bs
Speaker 1: your way to an election victory. Fine, be confident, But
Speaker 1: he went on one of my mate's podcasts. This is
Speaker 1: the Squizz podcast. The Squiz is a great podcast as
Speaker 1: well as Squids as Squiz News, Squids Kids. I promote
Speaker 1: all of them because good interesting listening about what's going
Speaker 1: on in the world and interesting way of telling news
Speaker 1: to your kids. Don't leave it all to the ABC.
Speaker 1: This is what I told my mate Kate.
Speaker 9: I think only labor can form government in our own right.
Speaker 9: I can't see any path for Peter Dutton and the
Speaker 9: Nationals for that matter, to get to seventy six.
Speaker 1: No path. There's a very narrow path. There is a
Speaker 1: very high hill. But the reality is that the maths
Speaker 1: is clear. If both of the parties end up at
Speaker 1: seventy seats, then there's a negotiation with the cross Bench.
Speaker 1: Will they be able to find the six relevant votes
Speaker 1: to essentially guarantee that they stay in power for at
Speaker 1: least the start of the term or presumably the whole term. Yes,
Speaker 1: the cross Bench would be big enough for that generally speaking,
Speaker 1: though it is a more left leaning cross bench, so
Speaker 1: it's not impossible to suggest, well, well, they'll probably go
Speaker 1: this way. But then there's a collection of people that
Speaker 1: will say because the teels represent places that used to
Speaker 1: be liberal, they're probably going to end up going that way.
Speaker 1: Who knows where Catter or SHARKI are going to go,
Speaker 1: So maybe things can push that way so we can
Speaker 1: find six there. But to arrogantly say no path, that's
Speaker 1: different than saying, look, I'm pretty sure I know that
Speaker 1: we're going to win the election, and let me tell
Speaker 1: you why. But a bloke who says no path is
Speaker 1: a guy who is going to be blind to some
Speaker 1: of the areas of attack they're going to be coming
Speaker 1: from the opposition. Now, remember we showed you even left
Speaker 1: wing journalists who say that the government may lose between
Speaker 1: seven and ten seats, they can only lose a couple
Speaker 1: before they start going into minority. A minority government is
Speaker 1: very different than a majority government. So he could be
Speaker 1: as full of himself as he likes, but he clearly
Speaker 1: knows something that the polsters don't. And if he wants
Speaker 1: to put his money where his mouth is, he could
Speaker 1: put some money down with bookie. I don't know whether
Speaker 1: it's legal to bet on yourself at an election, but
Speaker 1: it will make a pretty penny. In fact, currently today's
Speaker 1: odds for the Labor Party is more than two bucks,
Speaker 1: so he gets one back for everyone he puts down.
Speaker 1: I think maybe a little more. Anyway, you get the
Speaker 1: point the same when he goes over the lad Brokes,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. All the big bookies they're all saying
Speaker 1: right now Coalition favorites to win labor more than two dollars.
Speaker 1: In fact, two twenty five blows out to two thirty ones.
Speaker 1: You have a look at the lab Roke numbers and look,
Speaker 1: if you don't have the cash to put the bet down,
Speaker 1: you can always ask the Prime Minister. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: hardly skint. Didn't you just buy that joint for four
Speaker 1: million bucks at the Central Coast? Because whatever he can.
Speaker 1: But if it was a liberal who did it, it'd
Speaker 1: be a mansion man and all the rest of him.
Speaker 1: But maybe the reason that he is so confident is
Speaker 1: perhaps he already knows the outcome of the election. Somebody
Speaker 1: has already given him a spoiler alert. As we know,
Speaker 1: he's very close to the Chinese, and by that I
Speaker 1: mean the Chinese government, the CCP, the people who of
Speaker 1: course put all of the weights on the information that
Speaker 1: people learn back here in Australia and our very clever
Speaker 1: digital team. Well done to Jack and Tim at Sky
Speaker 1: Neese dot com that I use today. You know that
Speaker 1: new AI thing which is freaking people out. That's the
Speaker 1: Chinese version of what's out in America. They decided to
Speaker 1: ask some questions about the upcoming election, and the Chinese
Speaker 1: AI says that Albanese is the better choice for prime minister.
Speaker 1: Prompted to Skuy by Sky News as to which leader
Speaker 1: would better serve the interests of China, the chatbot said
Speaker 1: mister Aberenesi was Beijing's number one pick. Anthony Abernesi would
Speaker 1: likely be China's preferred choice, says the AI bot. His
Speaker 1: government has shown a willingness to engage diplomatically and prioritize
Speaker 1: economic ties while addressing security concerns. The write up, however,
Speaker 1: for Peter Dutton is that he is to be more
Speaker 1: adversarial by the Chinese, a little hawkish when it comes
Speaker 1: to China and our national defense. Dutton's emphasis on defense
Speaker 1: security and aligning closely with the US could make him
Speaker 1: a less favorable leader from China's perspective. And of course,
Speaker 1: China would do nothing, nothing at all to have influence
Speaker 1: over the local language media that has course signed off
Speaker 1: by Beijing. I'll have nothing over the TikTok videos that
Speaker 1: will or won't be favored. Of course, that'll be a
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory for me to even suggest it, because everything
Speaker 1: China does is above board right now, as you will
Speaker 1: have seen today, plenty more reaction to what we were
Speaker 1: telling you last night about the police, the caravan and
Speaker 1: the explosives. Charry markson tonight excellent reporting where she has
Speaker 1: actually put some meat on the bone. In fact, if
Speaker 1: we can move that up now, guys, that'd be great.
Speaker 1: Which is this was her reporting about the locations that
Speaker 1: were apparently mentioned in the note in the caravan found
Speaker 1: what ten days ago, I.
Speaker 7: Can tonight reveal the two targets of the caravan filled
Speaker 7: with explosives. The addresses written down inside the caravan were
Speaker 7: of the Great Synagogue in Sydney and the Sydney Jewish
Speaker 7: Holocaust Museum.
Speaker 1: And a little example about how the political leadership, including
Speaker 1: the bloke who thinks will be the Prime minister after
Speaker 1: the current Prime Minister, is not up to it. This
Speaker 1: was Jim Chalmers today. Remember how afraid the Jewish community
Speaker 1: is for the most obvious reasons, after the relentless intimidation
Speaker 1: and threats to their safety and damage to their property.
Speaker 10: Look, this is obviously a terrifying development, and what it
Speaker 10: shows is that the fears that a lot of Australians
Speaker 10: in the Jewish community have are not always unfounded. And
Speaker 10: what it shows is that the fears in the Jewish
Speaker 10: community are not always unfounded.
Speaker 1: What so a suggestion that there's been crying wolf for
Speaker 1: a while, but now the wolf is actually there. What
Speaker 1: a despicable thing to say. But this is a bloke
Speaker 1: who is despite the fact that he's factionately of the right,
Speaker 1: this is another lefty. When there is a generational change
Speaker 1: to this bloke or his like as leader, get ready
Speaker 1: for a far more aggressive, far more left wing, far
Speaker 1: more sort of Paloche or Andrew's style of leadership, not
Speaker 1: the Chris Min's style of leadership. That's playing it out
Speaker 1: in a bit of common sense in you so whilst
Speaker 1: right now? Of course he said sorry, But of course
Speaker 1: he wouldn't do it in front of a camera, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't tweet it anywhere. He just said it to the
Speaker 1: people who asked I apologize. My intention was to share
Speaker 1: and acknowledge the very real and understandable fears of the
Speaker 1: Jewish community in the light of recent events. I could
Speaker 1: have and should have expressed that more clearly, and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I didn't. We didn't do it once, we did
Speaker 1: it twice in fro had two different cameras at two
Speaker 1: different times from the same spot, meaning you're meant to
Speaker 1: say it, yet just annoyed you got called out. As
Speaker 1: for the actual investigation, another part that police seem rather
Speaker 1: annoyed about today was the fact that we know about
Speaker 1: this at all. Remember I'm pro cop and I give
Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt, but they are starting
Speaker 1: to push it when they're going after the media, who
Speaker 1: have every right to report on a legitimate story like this.
Speaker 1: The investigations ongoing, as the Commissioner indicated, has been significantly
Speaker 1: compromised by the media reporting on this, and.
Speaker 8: They need to get on with doing their job without
Speaker 8: people wondering what is happening.
Speaker 11: We will brief the public when we have something material
Speaker 11: to say.
Speaker 1: All right, And a second, I'm going to talk to
Speaker 1: a pilot about how you navigate close calls like obviously,
Speaker 1: what you would try to avoid by what has happened
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. What's it like to be in
Speaker 1: the cockpit, what do you do, how much are you
Speaker 1: in charge? Of versus what do you wait for the tower?
Speaker 1: What are the sounds, what are the alarms? Real good
Speaker 1: insight into that. As the story breaks in the early
Speaker 1: hours of the morning, there that apparently no survivors. I
Speaker 1: hope that to change and change for the better. But
Speaker 1: that's the early reporting and that certainly what's up right
Speaker 1: now on the Australian website. More details at skynews dot
Speaker 1: com dot au. A couple of other things worth mentioned
Speaker 1: in congratulations to the men and women of the police
Speaker 1: and Victoria because they're getting a pay rise. They're getting
Speaker 1: a bigger pay rise and the one the government was offering,
Speaker 1: and that is in part because of the campaign that
Speaker 1: they have led. I'm pro cop. I'm pro cop because
Speaker 1: these men and women, they run towards the situations that
Speaker 1: are often the worst things that will ever happen to
Speaker 1: anyone in their life. They do it all day, every day.
Speaker 1: They deserve their pay. They deserve more than what they've got.
Speaker 1: But four hundred and fifty million dollars deal four point
Speaker 1: five percent annual pay increase over the next four years.
Speaker 1: That's half a percent higher than the four percent that
Speaker 1: was rejected by the members. Each year the police associations
Speaker 1: say that industrial action taken by a police and the
Speaker 1: PSOs will now cease in accordance with the announcement that
Speaker 1: has just taken place. And what about very interesting, very
Speaker 1: interesting take on the Northern Beaches of Sydney about what
Speaker 1: their local federal MP, Zalie Stegel, of course, who defeated
Speaker 1: Tony abbott ree elect did in twenty twenty two and
Speaker 1: would think that she's a good chance of being re
Speaker 1: elected again. What's her response to the local council that's
Speaker 1: got an awful lot of deals on it big times zalibackers,
Speaker 1: that have increased the council rates on her constituents by
Speaker 1: forty percent. Local governments are experiencing the same pressures on
Speaker 1: their budgets as residents and small businesses with insurance, premiums, wages,
Speaker 1: energy and construction costs continue to rise. So you're against
Speaker 1: it or you're for it. I urge all local governments
Speaker 1: proposing rate increases to do so in a manageable way
Speaker 1: so that residents are not unfairly burdened and prioritize cost savings.
Speaker 1: Clearest mud right, Oh, they're under the same financial precisces
Speaker 1: as everyone else. Yeah, but if a business put up
Speaker 1: their prices by forty percent, you'd be the first to
Speaker 1: say these terrible profit making businesses. But because most of
Speaker 1: those people on the council are going to be the ones,
Speaker 1: they're going to try it back hurring at the upcoming
Speaker 1: federal election. Softly, softly, this is a local matter. Change
Speaker 1: the subject climate change. Pe d Dutton's about you get
Speaker 1: the play. Meantime, some good reporting from the Daily Telegraph
Speaker 1: about just how much money the Northern Northern Beaches Council
Speaker 1: is spending on the upper each lines of the Northern
Speaker 1: Beaches Council. Remember I showed you last night people from
Speaker 1: wanting the more than one hundred thousand dollars for jobs
Speaker 1: that either I can't understand a one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: for pr jobs at the council while they're wacking it
Speaker 1: up by forty percent. Northern Beaches Council fatcats are paid
Speaker 1: more than almost any other senior council staff in Metropolitan Sydney,
Speaker 1: a record spend of two point eight million dollars on
Speaker 1: salaries while having just four senior staff last year. The
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three to twenty four Annual Report shows the
Speaker 1: Northern Beaches Council for senior staff with a total of
Speaker 1: two point eight point four six eight seven seven million dollars.
Speaker 1: The figure does not include so on top of this
Speaker 1: we now can take it to three point two because
Speaker 1: for five hundred and forty four two thousand dollars you
Speaker 1: get the renuneration package of the CEO. That person's paid
Speaker 1: more than the premiere of New South Wales, certainly paid
Speaker 1: more than the local backbencher, and almost paid as much
Speaker 1: as the Prime minister. Oh, I know, but it's the locals.
Speaker 1: It's the locals who've got to end up with a
Speaker 1: forty percent rate rise. What a disgrace. Quick break back
Speaker 1: with more lots of breaking news from the United States.
Speaker 1: Also what's playing out and Gaza right now? At everything
Speaker 1: you need to know here at home. Also I'd love
Speaker 1: to know who do you think is the winner and
Speaker 1: loser of the week? Jump onto the Facebook page just
Speaker 1: go searching for Paul Murray Life our Pilot about what's
Speaker 1: happening in DC. We are again about ninety minutes away
Speaker 1: from when the sun's going to come up there? Can
Speaker 1: we take some light pictures from Gaza though, because the
Speaker 1: release of three more Israeli hostages happening as we speak.
Speaker 1: Two of the hostages being put into cars before our
Speaker 1: very eyes. We'll try and take some live sound if
Speaker 1: we can hear. Guys too happy to hear from another report,
Speaker 1: hear some live sound if we can the engines. Now
Speaker 1: three people are being released, two younger women and an
Speaker 1: older gentleman. It is the two younger women that we
Speaker 1: believe you are seeing the direct pictures of right now.
Speaker 1: Part of the hostage deal has been is that members
Speaker 1: of the IDF, female members of the IDF, they will
Speaker 1: be released first in this first phase of things, before
Speaker 1: in the second phase of ceasefire, that's when male soldiers
Speaker 1: will be released. The Red Cross have done the inspections.
Speaker 1: They are the ones that are moving people on. But again,
Speaker 1: I just want you to hear that the live sound
Speaker 1: as people are being handed over, plenty of supporters of
Speaker 1: the people who've kept them in captivity for almost five
Speaker 1: hundred days, cheering and waving their flags. The sounds of
Speaker 1: Hamas supporters is what you can hear. In about an
Speaker 1: hour's time, you'll hear things from the Israeli side. But
Speaker 1: this is Gaza right now. All right, we'll return to
Speaker 1: that when there is a little more, we'll make sure
Speaker 1: that we put it in what we call the box,
Speaker 1: which means you'll be able to see the light pictures
Speaker 1: while we are talking about everything else as it happens.
Speaker 1: If there is any further dramas on top of the
Speaker 1: obvious sense of relief that will be there for those
Speaker 1: three people, and whether they are peacefully handed over, which
Speaker 1: we would expect to be the case, you will see
Speaker 1: all of that as we discuss things here. But as
Speaker 1: we see what's happening in Garza, we know what's happening
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Which is that the sun doesn't
Speaker 1: come up for another little while, but we know that
Speaker 1: an awful lot of people have died, and they died
Speaker 1: in that collision between the Blackhawk helicopter and a small
Speaker 1: plane with about sixty people on it that was flying
Speaker 1: from Kansas to Washington, d C. Barron Bailey is a
Speaker 1: man who is well known to viewers here on Sky News.
Speaker 1: He is a former pilot, or he's a pilot. You're
Speaker 1: always a pilot. I think that's the case, like being
Speaker 1: an Olympian, you are forever and I wanted to reach
Speaker 1: out to him about the experience and some of the
Speaker 1: technical stuff here, because the tragedy is all very obvious. Byron,
Speaker 1: give us an idea. When you're piloting an aircraft before
Speaker 1: we get into the specifics of this aircraft and something
Speaker 1: is flying towards you, are you putting trust in the
Speaker 1: tower to tell the thing flying your way to get
Speaker 1: out of the way, or at what point are you
Speaker 1: able to use the controls to go up, down, left
Speaker 1: or right.
Speaker 5: Well, that's a tricky question because you're never going to
Speaker 5: be in that situation. If you're above one thousand feet.
Speaker 5: You've got a thing called TEACAS. It's collision avoidance system
Speaker 5: traffic avoidance system, and it will tell you to climb
Speaker 5: or descend. And that's what happens in controlled airspace with
Speaker 5: aircraft that equipped just clear the air. By the way,
Speaker 5: former fighter pilot there, we got Triple seven, Captain, I'm
Speaker 5: flying profit jets still, so he's.
Speaker 1: Still up up in a way. That's the main thing here.
Speaker 5: Okay, sure we talk about first of all, the original airliner.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what the pilots did. They flew from Wichita.
Speaker 5: They were cleared for the ils that's the instrument approach
Speaker 5: on runway zero one at Reagan and National Airport. That's
Speaker 5: quite a busy airport, not as busy as New York,
Speaker 5: but it's still a pretty busy airport. Oh, you disappeared,
Speaker 5: that's all right.
Speaker 1: You'll see the pictures of that are going to wear,
Speaker 1: which are the original footage, so yeah, they're clear there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and turning right and the bright object you could
Speaker 5: see it's about to explode was the airliner. Now, what
Speaker 5: happened was the airliner was coming in on an intimate
Speaker 5: landing system for runway zero one, which is the long
Speaker 5: runway at that airport. They then asked a sidestep right
Speaker 5: onto runway three three, which involves a slight jink to
Speaker 5: the right and then turnback left onto a heading of
Speaker 5: three three zero to land on runway three three. They
Speaker 5: had completed this, they were on short final below four
Speaker 5: hundred feet. Both pilots would have been looking ahead at
Speaker 5: the landing zone, totally engrossed on what they were doing.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't have been aware of the helicopter. Now, talking
Speaker 5: about air traffic control, a different frequency between the chopper
Speaker 5: and the helicopter and the airliner. It's so busy there
Speaker 5: that you have multiple controllers on different frequencies. But this
Speaker 5: is a fairly common thing for these helicopters from the
Speaker 5: military base to fly low level across the Potomac. There's
Speaker 5: hundreds of flights to day. They're generally under five hundred feet,
Speaker 5: so the only time they could ever conflict with an
Speaker 5: airliner on approach is when the airline is on very
Speaker 5: late final. What happened was the air traffic controller asked
Speaker 5: the chopper pilot, can you see the regional jet on final?
Speaker 5: The pilot of the helicopter said a pirmative, I can.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 5: The air traffic controller then said, pass behind. Now that's
Speaker 5: a pretty simple instruction. The airline is basically occupied doing
Speaker 5: an instrument approach and his head's down. He just did
Speaker 5: every thing perfectly. The chopper he is on a C
Speaker 5: and B seeing on visual flight rules. He should have
Speaker 5: passed behind, but he didn't. One of the problems is
Speaker 5: that it was a training flight. Now, helicopters are the
Speaker 5: reverse of what happens in a airline. For example, the
Speaker 5: captain or the pilot flying generally sits in the left seat.
Speaker 5: In a helicopter, the training captain would have been in
Speaker 5: the right sorry. The pilot under training would have been
Speaker 5: in the right seat instead of the left. This was
Speaker 5: a training flight. They were obviously lost sight. Said they
Speaker 5: had the guy in their lost sight of the of
Speaker 5: the airliner and flew into it. As far as I'm certain,
Speaker 5: the pilots on the airliner did nothing wrong, they were perfect.
Speaker 5: The air traffic control just did everything that he's done
Speaker 5: hundreds of times. And you rely on military guys to
Speaker 5: do the right thing, then me, being ex military, pretend
Speaker 5: to be a little bit more do our own thing
Speaker 5: at times.
Speaker 1: But okay, so give me a little bit of detail
Speaker 1: here which obviously look full investigations, all of the full
Speaker 1: absolutely hooted. What all of those moments Again, we find
Speaker 1: out those as the days and months roll along, But
Speaker 1: I would absolutely trust your sense of what's happened here.
Speaker 1: A military helicopter and a flight that's a plane that's
Speaker 1: a small regional airline. Do they have the black boxes
Speaker 1: that the big aircraft have, meaning that there is a
Speaker 1: form of data that we will get to see here.
Speaker 5: The flight data recording, cockpit boys, recorder years the airliners
Speaker 5: have that. It's all sort of modern. Even Ridge law
Speaker 5: and private jets have them. I'm not sure about the
Speaker 5: helicopter but this was definitely the military failing to obey
Speaker 5: having told traffic atro they had the airliner in site.
Speaker 5: It was up to them their responsibility to pass behind
Speaker 5: as they were instructed to do, and they didn't. So that, unfortunately,
Speaker 5: will be the finding. And it happened a short final
Speaker 5: into a major airport. It's very tragic, and the water
Speaker 5: tempts tore their three degrees celsius. Anyone that survived the
Speaker 5: actual plunge in the water would have actually hid from
Speaker 5: thermal shock within a few minutes.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, yeah, correct, I mean it's a you know,
Speaker 1: it's a one degree above let alone, as you say
Speaker 1: that the below that it would be there with the
Speaker 1: search that's going on. Byron, Thanks so much, mate, I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I always love when Borron pops up
Speaker 1: in our new services or here on the programs, are
Speaker 1: in the documentaries. How good to have an inside word
Speaker 1: there and inside about how it all works. Very grateful
Speaker 1: to have that inside Quick break back with more. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about again tax on your beer and why howboy
Speaker 1: should get rid of it?
Speaker 10: A second.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've been talking about the taxes that you don't
Speaker 1: really know that you're paying, particularly when you just go
Speaker 1: and do things like have a little drink at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, look forward to one on the weekend.
Speaker 1: Now we all know that for some time excess has
Speaker 1: been part of the way federal governments hold the whole
Speaker 1: joint together. But this federal government has upped the amount
Speaker 1: of extra little taxes on everything from petrol to bottle
Speaker 1: of booths up to the best part of forty something
Speaker 1: billion dollars. It's a difference between a budget surplus or
Speaker 1: a deep deficit. And there is something in my view,
Speaker 1: particularly that I don't like about going after people with
Speaker 1: such a high rate of tax for doing little things.
Speaker 1: I want to have a drink at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. Now there are businesses on the other side
Speaker 1: of this, and how much tax they are forced to
Speaker 1: hand back to the federal Government's all part of the
Speaker 1: conversation we need to have. Kylie Lethridge is with the
Speaker 1: Independent Brewers Association and she joins us. Now, Kylie, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for the chat.
Speaker 8: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: Paul, Now, I can't stand XS taxes because it feels
Speaker 1: to me like a sort of sneaky backdoor way of
Speaker 1: constantly hitting people. Give us an idea with your independent brewers.
Speaker 1: How much tax are they paying per bottle can or skewy?
Speaker 8: Sure thing? It's a complicated scenario called the simple facts are.
Speaker 8: It's one of the oldest taxes around excise in which
Speaker 8: is the framework in which Australian beer, spirits and fuel
Speaker 8: operates under. Wine operates under a separate arrangement called the
Speaker 8: wet tax. It is, as I said, one of the oldest,
Speaker 8: introduced originally as a syntax and increases twice a year.
Speaker 8: We are now the third highest tax beer producing nation
Speaker 8: in the world, and I'm not sure that that's something
Speaker 8: to be proud of. The reason that it was introduced
Speaker 8: to mitigate the health impacts of excessive consumption is now
Speaker 8: our argument is we're way past that, and there's a
Speaker 8: real need to relook at a fair and equitable playing
Speaker 8: field for alcohol producers. Not saying that we shouldn't get
Speaker 8: a free ride, but that we need a fair and
Speaker 8: equitable playing field. So it makes that quintessential be around
Speaker 8: a barbecue at the local meeting place at the end
Speaker 8: of the day still affordable for the average Australian.
Speaker 1: I think people absolutely understand that. You know, there's ways
Speaker 1: government can make money. But this seems to be a
Speaker 1: sneaky one which has been being dial up for some time.
Speaker 1: Give me an idea if you are a small brewer
Speaker 1: operating in a country town, is what does this high
Speaker 1: amount of tax do to your business?
Speaker 8: When you consider that our six hundred and seventy five
Speaker 8: odd independent craft brewers around the country, as I said,
Speaker 8: employing people meeting plays part of culture, part of community,
Speaker 8: very much part of community, are employing more than fifty
Speaker 8: one percent of the beer market. Should the trend continue,
Speaker 8: those jobs are lost and those important meeting places are
Speaker 8: lost as well. And the more and more our nation
Speaker 8: experience is some of these challenges, the more and more
Speaker 8: those local meeting places are important and valued. Again, just
Speaker 8: to reinforce the size and scale of who we are.
Speaker 8: Craft brewers for decades have been leading the charge in
Speaker 8: low and no alcohol with the adult beverage of moderation.
Speaker 8: And when you consider that more than half of us
Speaker 8: are producing one hundred thousand liters a year and less.
Speaker 8: When you compare that to the large foreign known multinational
Speaker 8: brews who are producing five hundred million and eight hundred
Speaker 8: million liters, it's just becoming more and more difficult for
Speaker 8: us to be able to succeed when you consider not
Speaker 8: only federal taxes and the fact that they're hyped twice
Speaker 8: a year and that long term, decades long legacy of
Speaker 8: that tax, but also state tax is another legislation and
Speaker 8: regulation that appiled up when a state or a federal
Speaker 8: government is in financial debt.
Speaker 1: I think I know the answer, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask it anyway. Do you pay if I buy a
Speaker 1: sixty from one of your brewers? Do I also pay
Speaker 1: GST on top of that?
Speaker 4: If you do?
Speaker 1: Right, so we have a tax on top of a
Speaker 1: tax that is existing right now.
Speaker 8: Then absolutely that's the case, and as I said, has
Speaker 8: been that way for many a decade. And when you
Speaker 8: know also that we then in some instances pay another
Speaker 8: tax to get it out of one vessel and sell
Speaker 8: it in a different vessel, out of a tank into
Speaker 8: a keg, out of a keg, into a bottle, into
Speaker 8: a growler, and some other ways in which we distribute.
Speaker 8: There are multiple layers of tax that we pay. And again,
Speaker 8: one fifth of that full strength six pack.
Speaker 7: Is taxed.
Speaker 1: Just at right just a starting point, What reaction, if
Speaker 1: any do you get to the calls that you've made.
Speaker 1: I know that you know other parts of the industry
Speaker 1: are trying to make their point as well. Government's going
Speaker 1: to try to delay this for as much as possible.
Speaker 1: But how to members of the public support the campaigns.
Speaker 8: We've had enormous support in the last twelve eighteen months
Speaker 8: to two years, Paul. We have researched done a few
Speaker 8: years ago, the first research with the kind which actually
Speaker 8: ask consumers that you know, if you knew if you
Speaker 8: knew that the beer was.
Speaker 11: Made by an Austrained owned business, would it encourage you
Speaker 11: to buy it over the foreign owned multinational or the
Speaker 11: supermarket home brand which many Austraints don't know exist.
Speaker 8: And seventy four percent of those consumers in those focus
Speaker 8: groups that absolutely they would buy local if they could.
Speaker 8: We did some recent consumer polling in twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 8: four late twenty twenty four which says sixty percent of
Speaker 8: soft voters would absolutely call for an agency investigation into
Speaker 8: the beer market in Australia and would also want their
Speaker 8: tax reduced on their standard beer. Again that point of
Speaker 8: the pub so where Australians do know who owns their beer,
Speaker 8: they absolutely support it where they can. But when you're
Speaker 8: facing a cost of living crisis, which we know we are.
Speaker 8: Then those disposable dollars are just not there. We know
Speaker 8: that from retailers and from our members. They might consumers
Speaker 8: might be splashing out, but they're certainly drinking less than
Speaker 8: buying a four pack instead of a six pack. They're
Speaker 8: buying individuals because they still want that flavorsome again handcrafted beer,
Speaker 8: but there's just not the disposable income to stretch to
Speaker 8: where they So we are calling on consumers as well
Speaker 8: as government of all sides and all shapes and colors
Speaker 8: to be able to support o Australian owned independent craft
Speaker 8: rulliance sector before there isn't.
Speaker 1: One good stuff Coylie, thanks for the chat, look forward
Speaker 1: to staying in touch.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Paul.
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