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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Pit Talk, brought to you by Shannons.

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Speaker 1: On today's episode, Lando Norris crashes out of the Canadian

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Speaker 1: Grand Prix after rear ending teammate and title leader Oscar

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Speaker 1: Piastri and George Russell wins in Montreal, but it takes

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Speaker 1: nearly six hours through his victory to be confirmed. In

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Speaker 1: the latest Mercedes Red Bull Racing spat, my name is

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Speaker 1: Michael Lomonato. It's great to have your company and the

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Speaker 1: company of my co host. He knows to always keep

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Speaker 1: a safe distance to the car ahead.

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Speaker 2: It's Matt Clayton.

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Speaker 3: Now, Michael, thank you for the intro. I do like

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Speaker 3: to drive safely, but I need to let you know

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Speaker 3: just ahead of time here if I don't like the

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Speaker 3: way you finish this podcast, I think you might be

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Speaker 3: trying to coax me into some sort of mistake. They're

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Speaker 3: back into this podcast. I am going to protest, and

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Speaker 3: I am going to delay the release of this podcast

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Speaker 3: for at least the next six hours with about zero

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Speaker 3: point six of an actual percent of an actual valid

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Speaker 3: reason to protest it, because that's how we roll in

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Speaker 3: Formula one these days, and to take our listeners behind

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Speaker 3: the curtain. I was so thankful that this was an

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Speaker 3: early morning Monday Grand Prix here in Australia, because if

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Speaker 3: that's a European Grand Prix, you're probably getting to bed

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Speaker 3: at about six am on a Monday morning, and I'm

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Speaker 3: probably in the same timeframe. So good times for us,

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Speaker 3: not good times for anybody else.

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Speaker 1: Yes, well, no one's crying over Europeans complaining about the

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Speaker 1: time zones for Formula one, so I.

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Speaker 3: Think that's fine, thank you very much.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, Yes, as ever, I think point six is probably

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Speaker 1: a bit generous as a percentage of success of that protest.

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Speaker 1: I talk about that a little bit later on, I think,

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Speaker 1: and how George Russell was eventually confirmed as the winner

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Speaker 1: of this Grand Prix on a Mercedes double podium not

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Speaker 1: featuring a McLaren carr. Well, let's start with a big

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Speaker 1: talking point of this weekend, which is, of course the

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Speaker 1: inevitable run in between the title leaders Oscar Piastre and

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Speaker 1: Lando Norris. McLaren has been telling us all year, going

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Speaker 1: out of their way in some circumstances to tell us

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Speaker 1: that they would crash at some stage, and that stage

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Speaker 1: was the Canadian Grand Prix. Round four laps to go,

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Speaker 1: Lando Norris rear ended Oscar Piastre, but in what I

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Speaker 1: suspect McLaren wouldn't have foreseen. It wasn't even really a

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Speaker 1: racing incident, wasn't a little bit too much aggression from

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Speaker 1: either driver. It was really quite a clumsy and costly

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Speaker 1: mistake from Lando. Norris admitted immediately afterwards that it was

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Speaker 1: all his fault in fact, and I mean immediately it

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Speaker 2: Even need to get out of the car.

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Speaker 1: It's so hard to say that this was a controversial moment,

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Speaker 1: but tell me about your immediate reaction to this crash,

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Speaker 1: because it just came across as I mean, I didn't

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Speaker 1: see it coming. They were racing very hard, but very

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Speaker 1: cleanly up to that point, and seemed very unnecessary a

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Speaker 1: little bit.

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Speaker 3: I think if you're McLaren and you've been talking all

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Speaker 3: season about this being inevitable, this is almost a perfect

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Speaker 3: way to get that box ticked and move on with it.

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Speaker 3: Because they weren't fighting over a race win. You know,

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Speaker 3: neither McLaren was in contention for a race win. Here

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Speaker 3: Norris immediately put his hand up. Piastre was still able

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Speaker 3: wasn't like he completely skewed his teammates race as well,

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Speaker 3: So there's a bit of nothing to see here, but

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Speaker 3: everything to see here. At the same time, as for

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Speaker 3: the championship lead, Piastre's behind him. I'm not necessarily sure

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Speaker 3: that's a move that Piastre makes. It was a really

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Speaker 3: low percentage move and it seemed a little bit unnecessary.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't the last lap. Norris was clearly quicker at

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Speaker 3: which I do think caught Oscar by surprise a bit,

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Speaker 3: and it was very clean. It was very well done.

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Speaker 3: it also spoke so much to the mindset of both drivers.

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Speaker 3: And this is the way I looked at this, and

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Speaker 3: I tried to imagine Piastre in a similar situation and

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Speaker 3: Oscar would have done in that situation, but I don't

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Speaker 3: is very he's not backward in giving himself a clip

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Speaker 3: around the years, but he doesn't think he's done something right,

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Speaker 3: and he's the self flagellation that we've talked about before.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I just kept thinking, Wow,

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Speaker 3: in a similar situation here, if Piastre is the trailing

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Speaker 3: and be how does he actually actually handle that situation?

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Speaker 3: I think it spoke a lot about both drivers. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it didn't cost McLaren a race win or even a podium,

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Speaker 3: so that, I guess is the good news for them,

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Speaker 3: But it revealed a lot about each driver. I think

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Speaker 3: in a high pressure situation and if this championship plays out,

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Speaker 3: the way we think it's going to If it's going

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Speaker 3: to be a race between these two, there's inevitably going

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Speaker 3: to be more high pressure situations between the two, and

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Speaker 3: this was a little bit of an insight as to

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Speaker 3: how each of them may handle it. But I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure what your thoughts were, but there was a lot

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Speaker 3: going on in those last few laps. But man McClaren

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Speaker 3: got away with it because it was a controversy with

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean my first instinct was I was sure both

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Speaker 1: clearly he's going to a punkcho spents could be damage,

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Speaker 1: Lando Norris self damaging his own race. I mean kindly

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Speaker 1: agree with that, and I think absolutely it's difficult to

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Speaker 1: imagine Oscar Piastri having tried on a similar move. But

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Speaker 1: what I think is interesting is that the precious situation

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Speaker 1: should have been reversed here because it was Oscar, who,

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Speaker 1: this situation, surely was Oscar, who started further ahead, had

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Speaker 1: seeing him in his mirrors, having recovered with a different strategy,

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Speaker 1: looking quicker, he should have been the one feeling more

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Speaker 1: who'd had a great recovery. It was going to minimize

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Speaker 1: Twenty two points are still not that much, considering there

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Speaker 1: strange that it was the guy who'd already had such

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Speaker 1: just strange that he should have been the one feeling

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Speaker 1: I can't help but wonder. You know, we joke every

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Speaker 1: get the sense that Oscar is of that mind said,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's so many races still to go, he's

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Speaker 2: You may not win every race. That's fine, which it feels.

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Speaker 1: Like already Norris is feeling a little bitout pressure, and

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Speaker 1: I think the inevitable conclusion from that must be that

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Speaker 1: he attempted to make one and he didn't pull it off.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sort of interested in the team aspect of

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Speaker 1: this as well, Matt, because, like we said, Andrea Stella

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Speaker 1: Zack Brown, I've been saying all season it was inevitable,

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Speaker 1: But they've been preaching this strategy that their approach is

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Speaker 1: we've seen that play out in a team order sense

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Speaker 1: in some situations where it's arguably detrimental to the team's interest.

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Speaker 1: Then again, teams leading the championship by so much doesn't

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Speaker 1: too unusual an incident to judge the success of that strategy.

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Speaker 1: Was actually this proving the way that Norris took full accountability.

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Speaker 1: They cleared the air immediately that actually, maybe this McLaren

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Speaker 3: The thing I thought when it happened was McLaren going

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Speaker 3: to be content with absolutely nailing the constructors Championship, which

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Speaker 3: very long time. They got that sorted. That's all completely fine.

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Speaker 3: They are going to win the Constructors Championship this year,

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Speaker 3: you would imagine. So my bigger question is does this

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Speaker 3: The driver and the ascendency in this case is pastre

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Speaker 3: because you look at the points standings and despite the

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Speaker 3: Max the Stappans still hovering at an uncomfortably close distance

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Speaker 3: here for the driver's championship, transcending what he's doing, you know,

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Speaker 3: Verstappan's still uncomfortably close. And I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: fight with a guy who's won four straight world titles

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Speaker 3: and we know there's a different level of performance and

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Speaker 3: Formula One being what it is, there's still fourteen rounds

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Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed. I like the mention of who he was

433
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Speaker 3: fighting against. The number one rule in these situations, know

434
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Speaker 3: your opponent, and you know, when you're in a fifty

435
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Speaker 3: to fifty situation and you're not a championship contender against

436
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Speaker 3: a guy who's leading the world championship, who has way

437
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Speaker 3: more to lose than you. I think Piastre made a

438
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Speaker 3: reluctant but a business is you're nonetheless. It's like, I

439
00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 3: could fight this and potentially risk my car, I'm already

440
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Speaker 3: several spots ahead of my teammate and my closest championship

441
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Speaker 3: challenger on the grid. It's not worth it, and I

442
00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,160
Speaker 3: think Antonelli really played into that. But it was very

443
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,320
Speaker 3: coolly and cleanly executed for a guy that was in

444
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Speaker 3: his tenth foot with the one Grand Prix start, and

445
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Speaker 3: you'd have to say that we haven't seen the absolute,

446
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Speaker 3: like wow, look at that qualifying la pace from him

447
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Speaker 3: that we might have thought we'd seen this year. But

448
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,000
Speaker 3: he's been super impressive and it feels like he's taken

449
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Speaker 3: advantage of most of the opportunities that he's got. He's

450
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Speaker 3: you know, he's clearly going to be here for a

451
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Speaker 3: very very long time, but wy be the last time

452
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Speaker 3: he gets moved of the week on this podcast, or

453
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Speaker 3: however long this podcast lasts but yeah, very impressive. Nonetheless,

454
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Speaker 3: and you were right. There were only two other pieces

455
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Speaker 3: of fruit, but I thought i'd leave them for you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very good.

457
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Speaker 1: Well, let's look at that Mercedes weekend and the weekend

458
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Speaker 1: a little bit more broadly overall, because while the talking

459
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Speaker 1: point was over the battle for fourth, George Russell was

460
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Speaker 1: pretty serenely leading this one from pole position made up

461
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Speaker 1: for the win he should have had here last year

462
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Speaker 1: from pole, but too many mistakes cost him to Max

463
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Speaker 1: Staffen in a pretty tricky race in the end. No

464
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Speaker 1: such mistakes this weekend led from pol. The sizzle about

465
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Speaker 1: the combat with Max Mustaffan off the line didn't even worthy.

466
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Speaker 1: I wasn't even worthy of a mentioned, considering his start

467
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Speaker 1: was just so good and controlled the race from there.

468
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Speaker 1: There were moments where it looked like Mustafan was getting closer,

469
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Speaker 1: but it was all management from Russell, who scored one

470
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Speaker 1: of his more comprehensive victories. There have been other good

471
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Speaker 1: ones as well in there. I think back to that

472
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Speaker 1: victory that doesn't count in Belgium last year. I think

473
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Speaker 1: it's probably his most impressive, ironically, but I think this

474
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Speaker 1: is a really big tick a for Mercedes because it's

475
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Speaker 1: their first win of the season in a year that

476
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Speaker 1: they started sort of optimistic about but then felt like

477
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Speaker 1: they lost their way in the last month or so.

478
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Speaker 1: So it gets them back on track, particularly considering they

479
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Speaker 1: use an upgrade that they temporarily had in the bin

480
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Speaker 1: only a week or two ago. But also, I feel

481
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Speaker 1: like I am in your position on this, Russell. This

482
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Speaker 1: been quite a good and comprehensive weekend for him, which

483
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Speaker 1: is great, But then particularly in contrast to Canada last

484
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Speaker 1: year one year ago, where he fumbled his chances in

485
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Speaker 1: a way that I think had become quite characteristic of

486
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Speaker 1: him at that point. Really good in qualifying, often would

487
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Speaker 1: qualify high up or even on pole position, but then would.

488
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Speaker 2: Almost get too excited, over excited to be.

489
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Speaker 1: On pole in a position he's not meant to be

490
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Speaker 1: in because the Mercedes never been a race winner, and

491
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Speaker 1: then do something sillier and not win the race. There

492
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Speaker 1: was no sign of that this weekend, and I don't

493
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Speaker 1: think it's something that had happened ahead of this weekend,

494
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Speaker 1: but it certainly happened in the last twelve months, and

495
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Speaker 1: I think it just emphasized that position he has now

496
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Speaker 1: as the team leader at Mercedes arriving at just the

497
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Speaker 1: right time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the evolution of a driver that

499
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Speaker 3: you know, he statistically was the stronger Mercedes driver last year,

500
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Speaker 3: but it always felt like he was driving in Lewis

501
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Speaker 3: Hamilton's team, which is understandable because of the success Hamilton

502
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Speaker 3: had had there and how long he'd been there, and

503
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Speaker 3: he was part of the furniture. It was always like, oh, yeah,

504
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Speaker 3: and our other drivers George Russell, which is a little

505
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Speaker 3: bit unfair because the guy's very, very good and very accomplished.

506
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Speaker 3: So there was there were two things for me. It

507
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Speaker 3: shows you the evolution of him as a leader and

508
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Speaker 3: a driver and a senior person within the sport. But

509
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Speaker 3: there's also that taking and like acing the big moments

510
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Speaker 3: and I think you know Q three was like that

511
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Speaker 3: absolutely fantastic qualifying that you mentioned. There's all this tension

512
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Speaker 3: off the start and Verstappans got penalty points to worry about,

513
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Speaker 3: and he's got the car angled at Russell. It was

514
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Speaker 3: a complete non story because Russell totally nailed the start

515
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Speaker 3: Forstappan didn't get a look at him in the first corner,

516
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Speaker 3: and then for the rest of that race he just

517
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Speaker 3: he controlled that race in a manner that we've not

518
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Speaker 3: seen George Russell control the race probably before, didn't overreach.

519
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Speaker 3: There weren't any lurid moments or things that we're going

520
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Speaker 3: to trip him up. He was totally in control. And

521
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Speaker 3: Canada's a funny one because it's one of those races

522
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Speaker 3: that sometimes when not a lot happens, you always watch

523
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Speaker 3: the race at Canada through the lens of there's a

524
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Speaker 3: lot of tripwise and things that can spoil your day

525
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Speaker 3: there because of the nature of the track and how

526
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Speaker 3: close the walls are and even the configuration of the track.

527
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Speaker 3: It's a pretty unusual circuit and the way that you

528
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Speaker 3: run it. And he took a stressful situation and just

529
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Speaker 3: took all the stress out of it. I thought he

530
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Speaker 3: was incredibly composed and in control. But the other thing

531
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Speaker 3: I loved about this, and we'll probably get onto this

532
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Speaker 3: in a second, was that he saw he knew that

533
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Speaker 3: he could stir Red Bull and Max for stapping up

534
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Speaker 3: this weekend, and he took the opportunity to bait them

535
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Speaker 3: and annoy them and just sort of be ever present

536
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Speaker 3: with that niggle the entire weekend. I actually love that

537
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Speaker 3: because it would have been very easy, just oh no, Look,

538
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: we're just focusing on ourselves and we're just doing our

539
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Speaker 3: own thing, and we're trying to maximize our opportunity. He

540
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Speaker 3: saw an opportunity there to twist the knife a little bit,

541
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Speaker 3: knowing how much his opponents were going to hate it,

542
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Speaker 3: and actually baiting them into a response, which is probably

543
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Speaker 3: why we waited six hours for a Steward's verdict. But

544
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Speaker 3: that's another story. But I did enjoy the fact that

545
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Speaker 3: he saw an opportunity to be a little bit mischievous

546
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Speaker 3: and decided to wrap up the volume on that so

547
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Speaker 3: great drive, very very well managed, very accomplished Grand Prix win,

548
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Speaker 3: and for a bit of bustardy as well. We'll give

549
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Speaker 3: him a tick for that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that is a great call

551
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Speaker 1: because I think, as we've learned in the last i

552
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Speaker 1: don't know, let's just say twelve months, he's certainly not

553
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Speaker 1: above the politics. Now. Mercedes isn't. Even if they preck

554
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Speaker 1: that they are the cleaner team in some senses that

555
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: you could say they were the cleaner team, they're not

556
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Speaker 1: totally clean team when it comes to politics. But Russell

557
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: certainly isn't. He's a clever guy. He's one of the

558
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Speaker 1: smarter guys on the grid, and he knows how to

559
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Speaker 1: stir people up and he's got in that sense, at

560
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Speaker 1: least I think he has Max with Stapfen's number, he

561
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Speaker 1: can get under his skin. We've learned this like probably

562
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Speaker 1: no other driver on the grid, which is pretty remarkable

563
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Speaker 1: considering Max has had several run ins with lots of

564
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Speaker 1: drivers over his time and played that to perfection after qualifying.

565
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Speaker 1: And I think there's a legitimacy to it now as well,

566
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Speaker 1: because as Red Will sort of slides backwards into the

567
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Speaker 1: pack Mercedes, it's probably too early to say they're in

568
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Speaker 1: the ascendency. They've said this is not a breakthrough, and

569
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Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely right. There's a track that suited

570
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Speaker 1: the car, condition that suited the car. We don't expect

571
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Speaker 1: them to suddenly be winning races regularly, but they're pretty

572
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Speaker 1: closely aligned now, those two teams in terms of their capacity,

573
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Speaker 1: so it's not, you know, the little guy just having

574
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Speaker 1: a crack at the big guy for the headline. I

575
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Speaker 1: think there's there some legitimacy in there, and I think

576
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Speaker 1: that they are generally the team and driver under Red

577
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Speaker 1: Bull and the staff and skin because we saw the

578
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Speaker 1: st and snap in the post qualifying press conference when

579
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Speaker 1: he's asked about the penalty points situation. And I think

580
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Speaker 1: that is a site you know, as much as some

581
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Speaker 1: people will say, well, you know, MAXI just doesn't have

582
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Speaker 1: time for whatever. I think he does snap like there

583
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Speaker 1: is that is a sign of him getting a little

584
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Speaker 1: bit irritated by it. And then let's talk about that

585
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Speaker 1: post race investigation that went for twice as long, no

586
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Speaker 1: more than three times as long, more than three times

587
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Speaker 1: as long as I think the race. Yes, red Bull

588
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Speaker 1: lodging a couple of protests against the result, for Russell's

589
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Speaker 1: alleged behavior behind the safety car and sporting erratic dangerous

590
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Speaker 1: against the rules. It always seemed like a long shot.

591
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Speaker 1: I think we were talking after the race when we

592
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Speaker 1: was just such a low percentage at best play. They

593
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Speaker 1: were clearly entitled to make it accord of the rules.

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Speaker 1: But what I really liked, Matt, and maybe you can

595
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Speaker 1: tell us about this total wolf's comments the day after

596
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Speaker 1: actually at the F one movie premiere. Even there's no

597
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Speaker 1: break for politics, even when you go to the movies.

598
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Speaker 1: I just thought he nailed it so perfectly.

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Speaker 3: Get the popcorn out when you have an open mic

600
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Speaker 3: in front of a total wolf after they've just won

601
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Speaker 3: to one o Grand Prix. This quote is funnier if

602
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Speaker 3: you read it in his accent, which I know sounds

603
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Speaker 3: like a ridiculous thing to say, but talking about the

604
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Speaker 3: way that you know obviously read Red Bull was questioning

605
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Speaker 3: the gamesmanship and Toto Wolf's comment was about the protest.

606
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Speaker 3: It's so petty and so small and the words small.

607
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Speaker 3: Actually maybe giggle when I read it when it came

608
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Speaker 3: out after the movie premiere, because A it's such a

609
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Speaker 3: Toto Wolf thing to say, and it's so dismissive. It's like,

610
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Speaker 3: this is pathetic, like what a small effort to try

611
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: and spoil and a like what is wrong with you people?

612
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: But it does sort of also speak to the there's

613
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Speaker 3: something with Red Bull with the way they handle situations

614
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Speaker 3: like this. There's this cross between a little bit of

615
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Speaker 3: desperation to try and make it look like they're doing

616
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Speaker 3: everything possible to keep verstapan on side. It sounds like

617
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Speaker 3: from what you read after the event, that Verstappen was

618
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Speaker 3: less bothered about this than Red Bull actually were, and

619
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Speaker 3: that he was probably halfway home on the private jet

620
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Speaker 3: by the time you realized that he had. She retained

621
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Speaker 3: second place at this point. So there's this desperation from

622
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Speaker 3: Red Bull management to make it like we're in your cornerbacks.

623
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Speaker 3: We're in your cornerbacks. Everyone knew what was going on.

624
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 3: Verstappan knew that Russell was trying to stir him r

625
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: Russell knew exactly what he was doing. Christian Horner came

626
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Speaker 3: out and said that they'd spoken to the stewards and

627
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 3: made them aware that they know there might be a

628
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: bit of gamesmanship and things going on here. But I

629
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Speaker 3: don't understand how that would be different to any other

630
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Speaker 3: team against any other driver in a similar situation. Let's

631
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: just say Orlando Norris had one point from being suspended

632
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: for a race because of a bunch of penalty points.

633
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: Do you think Red buller would have done the same

634
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Speaker 3: and stirred the pot for the entire week and they

635
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 3: would have taken a bigger spooed out the Mercedes did

636
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 3: and stirred the pot, knowing the way Red Bull usually

637
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: roll with these things. So I thought it was completely

638
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: legitimate from Mercedes to tweak Red Bull about it, and

639
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 3: the whole protest thing. You might want to sort of

640
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 3: take our listeners inside this a little bit. But the

641
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: problem with protests is that there they can be launched.

642
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 3: The financial outlay for a team to launch a protest

643
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: for something as tenuous as this is not enough to

644
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 3: just weigh them from doing its two thousand euro or

645
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: something ridiculous. So it's a drop in the ocean. For

646
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: some of these teams, there's no disincentive for them to

647
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 3: not launch a protest and waste everyone's time for six hours.

648
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Speaker 3: But I wonder if the procedure needs to change, both

649
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Speaker 3: in terms of how much a team needs to cough

650
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: up to initiate one of these things, and also can

651
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 3: we have a decision within like two hours? Is it

652
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: really that hard?

653
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Speaker 1: I think they're both great calls, because I think the

654
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: deposit on the protest was only introduced not that long ago.

655
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: If memory serves to ward off these really spurious protests,

656
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: or a team would lodge a protest not really believing

657
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: a rule had been broken, but just to make a

658
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: point in the wording of their protests, like well we

659
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: don't think this is right. Whatever is the case, I

660
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: think it was only a couple of years ago it

661
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: was brought in, But two thousand euros is hardly anything.

662
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: You know, it might make the most ridiculous of protests,

663
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: give it a second thought, but clearly not enough in

664
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: this situation. So I think there is that element of it,

665
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: and then I do think that it's probably time, it

666
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: has been time for a while for the FIA to

667
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: look at the way that these strace investigations going now.

668
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: To be fair, there were quite a few, probably an

669
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: unusual number of post race investigations to undertake, featuring quite

670
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot of drivers. There was a safety car based

671
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: investigation that I think involved six drivers off the top

672
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: of my head, five or six drivers after the race.

673
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 1: So there was that element. But I think the requirement

674
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: to look at things chronologically probably needs to be rethought,

675
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: because no one really cared about with due respect to

676
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: what happened to Oliver Berman, considering you finished outside the points,

677
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: if you've got a post race penalty or whatever, it

678
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: didn't matter, whereas obviously with George Russell that could have

679
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: affected the outcome of the Grand Prix, the winner of

680
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: the Grand Prix. So I think there's an element of that,

681
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: But then we've heard a lot. We're going to understand.

682
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: The system is important that you have this group of

683
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: stewards and they're the ones that make the decision because

684
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: they're from a pool of stewards. That's the only way

685
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: you can ensure any kind of consistency, not only within

686
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: a race, but from race to race. But we've heard

687
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: a lot about the Remote Operations Center in Geneva of

688
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: the FIA. We've heard about it likened to var and

689
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: that it assists during the race. And I'm sure it

690
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: does assist during the race when it comes to things

691
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: like track limits whatever, because it's.

692
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: Just more eyes.

693
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: But there's got to be a way to use more

694
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: of the resources that are apparently on offer to speed

695
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: up these situations, whether it comes to just riding out

696
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: these documents fastucause I'm sure that's part of it getting

697
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: them out there. I think there's also part of the

698
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: reason there's a delay is that teams have to acknowledge

699
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: the receipt of every time a document is sent out

700
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: before the next stage can happen, and there's probably some

701
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: slowness there when that might be five hours later and

702
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: they're all going home or on their debts already. But

703
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: there's just has to be a way to expedite this process,

704
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: particularly when we're talking about a protest against the winner

705
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: of a race.

706
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 2: It's just not a no.

707
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: Because imagine how to change Imagine the people who would

708
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: have gone to bed and assuming that George Russell was

709
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: the winner, or if you were an Australia you've already

710
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: gone to work.

711
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: You're not going to find out till you get home.

712
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: It's just not practical.

713
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: Well, and the one I always think of with this

714
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: was the Daniel Ricardo podium that wasn't at the two

715
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 3: fourteen Australian Grand Prix. And I remember this because you

716
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: were probably sitting in the same press room as me.

717
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: I think that final Steward's verdict came through about five

718
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 3: minutes to midnight for a race that had finished at

719
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: half past four, and so we all knew Ricardo was

720
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: going to get disqualified. There was nothing official, and then

721
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 3: it was announced Daniel Ricardo has been stripped of his

722
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 3: second place. It changed the podium, it changed all the points.

723
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: McLaren had two drivers on the podium. I remember I

724
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: had the story basically ready to go, hit send and

725
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 3: walked out of the press room at midnight for a

726
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: race that finished at help us four. And that was

727
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: eleven years ago, so the more things changed, the more

728
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: they stayed the same.

729
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So hopefully some change there. And just quickly,

730
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: I know we already talked about Andrea Kimi Antonelli, but

731
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: I just want to mention again first podium for him

732
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: ten races into his career, third youngest podium getter in

733
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: Formula one. I feel like you already know this, but

734
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you the question anyway, do you

735
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: know who's ahead of him on that table?

736
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: Now?

737
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: I did read this yesterday and then I got stuck

738
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 3: in six hours of Stuart's Stewart's notes, so you can

739
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 3: you can enlighten the listeners while I try and pick

740
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 3: my brain here.

741
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so undeniably and obviously Maxwastaffan is in there. Obviously

742
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: his first victory at eight I was also the youngest.

743
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Window'm pretty sure hasn't he had eighteen?

744
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: And whatever? Day's two hundred days?

745
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I know where you're going here. I've just worked

746
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: this out.

747
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, so I would say fifty percent of them.

748
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: It's a good sign to being company of the other

749
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: one though, is Lance Stroll who got that podium in

750
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: was as I think, wasn't it?

751
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: Dum finished the.

752
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: Daniel Riccardo won that race. Speaking of Daniel Riccardo, it

753
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 3: was seventeen was.

754
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: The Riccardo race. It wasn't both, but there was Botas

755
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: who passed him off the line. But there you go, Oh,

756
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,239
Speaker 1: there you go. I figured it out in the end.

757
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: It was my own got tripped up with my own

758
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: question this week remarkable.

759
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: This is the most enthusiastic either Orus have been about

760
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: Lance Stroll the entire season so far, and probably more

761
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 3: enthusiastic than Lance Stroll has been about Lance Stroll for

762
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: most of the part of this season. For anyone out

763
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: there that hasn't listened to or read the Thursday FIA

764
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: press conference with Tom Clarkson and Lance Stroll was there.

765
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say that he participated, but he was in attendance,

766
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: and it was kind of the beginning of a home

767
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: grownd Prix weekend where you forgot that he was there.

768
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: But if you're into one word answers to press conference questions,

769
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: then that's right.

770
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Daniel Alley, Yeah, I think so participation probably sums up

771
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: his whole weekend. I think finished lay out of the

772
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: points for Fernando a. Lonzo's scored points again forgettable performance,

773
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: copped a penalty as well for crashing into Pierre And

774
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I mean, if you liked his press conference performance, if

775
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: you can find his post race interview from F one TV,

776
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: it's even better and perhaps more infuriating to spending on

777
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: your defety and your perspective. So clearly worthwhile for him

778
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: to come back this so quickly after his wrisk surgery,

779
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: because I'm sure the home fans are very pleased with

780
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: his result, but a great performance by Andrea Kimi antonelli'vill

781
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: undoubtedly be more to come from him, because I thought

782
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: it was interesting about as well. Listening to Total Wolf

783
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: after the race, he said, a lot of this year

784
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: has been about, but will increasingly be about now expectation management,

785
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: because here's a young guy who's done nothing except when

786
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: on his way to FORMUD one had great expectations coming

787
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: and even if we knew it was such a big step.

788
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: But again in ten races, I know it's felt like

789
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: a long time because I guess ten races is quite

790
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: a while, but it's not really that long. It's only

791
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 1: a couple of months. Has already got onto the podium

792
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: for the first time, and not in a lucky way.

793
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: Not in a fluke deserved to be. Their performance was great.

794
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: This might be one of the few weekends Mercedes has

795
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: this level of performance in it, and he took that

796
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to Stier. Wasn't that far behind Georg Russel any

797
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: point this weekend as well. So expectation management now becomes

798
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: part of the game because we can't expect that necessarily

799
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: every week, but clearly it's becoming increasingly frequent.

800
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 3: Well, And the key thing is he's eighteen years old.

801
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 3: You know, there's so much headroom and so much time

802
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: for growth here. I don't think it's going to take

803
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 3: very long, and I don't think this will be the

804
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: last time we're having that podium conversation. He's he's been

805
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 3: just about as good as advertised. And the crazy part

806
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: about it is he might be what eight years from

807
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: his peak in Formula one of him, it's completely wild

808
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: to think that he might have a decade ahead of him,

809
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 3: but he still might be still improving.

810
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, lots to like. Yeah, alarming, isn't that.

811
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: Jackie Steward's used to say a driver peaked at thirty

812
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 1: It's a long time.

813
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: Not man, So what you're saying is lant Stroll's nearly there.

814
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: He's nearly there. He's just hag on to keep the faith. Canadians,

815
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: keep the faith. We know you can still be there

816
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: at thirty always.

817
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: Certainly before we wrap this one up, about the crystal

818
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: ball brought to you by Complete home Filtration. What are

819
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: you foreseeing in the next week or more of motorsport?

820
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 3: The key thing for me this weekend we have the

821
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 3: Italian motor GP at Magello, one of the great race

822
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 3: tracks for any sport, but particularly motor GP. Incredibly high speed,

823
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: incredibly undulating, fantastic quarter names. No thanks to you all

824
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: the things that I love about motor GP. But my

825
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 3: crystal ball this weekend is I don't think that the

826
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five motor GP World Championship is necessarily up

827
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: for grabs here, but I think if it's going to

828
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: be a run to the finish that we all want,

829
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: this is almost must win for Peco Banyaya at his

830
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: home Grand Prix on Decati's home Grand Prix against Mark Marquez.

831
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 3: He's got to stand his ground here and the good

832
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: news for Peco in the next ten days we go

833
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: to Magello, where he's won the last three years in

834
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: a row, and then we go to Asen, where he's

835
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: won the last three years in a row, and we

836
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 3: know that it's been a struggle for him this year

837
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 3: relative to his teammate. Unlocked something at the last race

838
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: at Aragon that should that transform his season. He's coming

839
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: to probably his strongest two tracks in the space of

840
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: a fortnite. This shapes to me as a super important weekend.

841
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 3: I think he's going to win his fourth Italian Grand

842
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: Prina Row. I don't think he's necessarily going to challenge

843
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 3: for the title, but I think this is the weekend

844
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 3: where he plants his flag and says, all right, I'm

845
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,439
Speaker 3: still here. I'm still really really good on this bike.

846
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 3: And you also know psychologically that Marquez, being the Spaniards

847
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: in the Italians backyard, he would love to create a

848
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,240
Speaker 3: little George Russell mischief and win this race this weekend.

849
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: But I think we might get the Intra team to

850
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: caddy fight that we've wanted all season. But I think

851
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 3: it's Spanya who wins it.

852
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: Oh look, we'd all love to see it as well.

853
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: Very popular victory and Italian winning on Italian soil, Fingers crossed, what.

854
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: Have you go?

855
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to go over to Supercars Land. We've got

856
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: the Darwin triple Crown. I'm usually close to the previous race,

857
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: only a fortnight between them, and the rules have change

858
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: this year. For anyone who's been keeping track of the

859
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: triple Crown, I don't think of you if you're not,

860
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: because it's proved almost impossible to win. I think it's

861
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 1: just because winners ever, and so the criteria has changed.

862
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: Supercars organizers have said, or Darwen organizers said, look, no

863
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: one can do it. No one can win all three races.

864
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: It's unlikes and not like supercars for one driver to

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Speaker 1: sweep an entire weekend of victories. So now if you

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Speaker 1: get the most points, so a conventional perpetual trophy rule,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's almost certainly means it's going to

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Speaker 1: be brock Phene's. He has been so good at Darwin

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, so he've been the sport

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years, but he's been so good there.

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Speaker 1: It's really it's not his home territory, but on the

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Speaker 1: quality home territory for the purposes of his level of performance.

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Speaker 1: So he's actually going to finally win this. We're actually

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Speaker 1: going to finally find out. I know you, do you

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Speaker 1: think if you have got twenty twenty and there was

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Speaker 1: a previous winner of the triple crown, perhaps I'm actually

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Speaker 1: going to find out what that trophy looks like. And

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Speaker 1: I personally hope it is a real crown. If anyone's

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Speaker 1: been thinking about this, if the winner does not get

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Speaker 1: an actual three pointed crown, then they've missed a trick.

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Speaker 3: Well, they've had five years to get it right, so

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Speaker 3: you would hope so that that's a good call. Because

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Speaker 3: how he's how he's not worn the aforementioned crowd previously

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Speaker 3: based on his results, there is a little bit of

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Speaker 3: a mystery, but yeah, you might be right. This could

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Speaker 3: be the weekend that he rights that particular wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be a crown, guys, it's right in

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Speaker 1: the name. Come on, that's all the time we've got

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