WEBVTT - The Bodzilla: "I'm Fat and Beautiful, See Me As a Whole Person" 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:07.520 I love a return you know, I love a return guest. 0:00:07.920 --> 0:00:10.920 So this guest is someone that we had on when 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:15.079 Angie and I were doing the show, and I just 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.560 couldn't wait to get her back. April Helene Horton is 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.640 her name, but you might know her as a v Bodzilla, 0:00:22.280 --> 0:00:24.439 And if you don't know who she is, go and 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:27.080 have a look right now. I think one of the 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:30.400 most inspirational people that I've ever met. I'm not saying 0:00:30.440 --> 0:00:34.280 that in a cliched way. Even if she didn't do 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.199 what she does and who she is, she'd still just 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:40.400 be a rock chick who just rocks your world by 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.080 knowing her. I just for you know, you just feel 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:45.519 lucky to know some people and to be considered a 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:46.760 friend by them. 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:47.400 Yeah. 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:49.760 So I couldn't wait to get her back on, and 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:54.600 I get the scoop on something that's just launched, so 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.520 you're hearing about it if you haven't seen it on 0:00:57.600 --> 0:00:59.240 and you don't know who she is, and you're hearing 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:00.360 about it for the first time. 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:01.360 Through her today right here. 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:07.119 So please enjoy April Helene Horton, aka the body Zilla. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.480 The last time I had you on there was a 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:12.840 wei It was really two Girls One Pod. It was 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:15.880 actually three girls that day because you were our third 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:17.119 and Angie was here. 0:01:17.760 --> 0:01:20.520 Now I've got you back all to myself. 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.360 Oh my god, you've all start two girls with just 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:25.959 these two. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:29.040 It's just us too, so and I'm really glad because 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.160 I love a returning guest and you were one of 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:37.760 our first guests on if not the first of the 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.040 two Girls one Pod, like it wasn't when it wasn't 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.520 just me and Angie and we were just like champion 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:44.880 to have you on. 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.080 So having you back because I adore you so much. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:53.240 And in between that time and this time, we've met Irl, 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.920 We've hugged, we've eaten together, I've met your husband and 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:57.560 your child. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.680 Yes, it was the best. How is my little boyfriend? 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:05.440 He is just glorious? Thank you? He is just the sweetest. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.640 I actually did canteen Judy today before our child was that. 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:12.920 Oh it was so funny. It's just I actually do 0:02:13.000 --> 0:02:14.560 I get because I work part time. 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:17.440 I get to have these occasional fun things that I 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:19.919 get to do lean into that mum life kind of stuff. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.560 And he sort of he like came to. 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.000 The door and was just like hi, Mom, and I 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:26.800 was like I love it because you know, you hear 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.160 from other parents that at some point your kid's gonna 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:31.720 be like too cool to talk to you, don't tell 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.480 anyone you're my mum. And he's still not like he's 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:37.000 in that stage of being thinking. It's rad that I'm 0:02:37.000 --> 0:02:37.480 there and. 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:40.400 He's like hi, and I'm just like, oh, it's so 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:41.200 bloody love. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:47.640 And he's such a nice human, Like he's a person, 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:48.120 isn't he. 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:52.639 He gets that from him you. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.919 Well, no, he gets her from his mum as well. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.280 You both are beautiful people, and you're raising a beautiful 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.840 little human. I'm wearing the glasses now that he popped on, 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:03.320 and I have the most divine photo of him in like, 0:03:03.440 --> 0:03:06.200 he's like a delicious looking human that you're just like, 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.240 let's exploit him and put him into modeling. 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.000 Well, this is the thing. 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:14.960 Well, so we always have funny conversations about this stuff. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:20.880 So I feel really strongly about child safety online and 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:24.400 also about their privacy. So for me, I don't use 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:27.119 his image like on my public socials. I did used 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.440 to a few times. You know, I got him involved 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:31.080 in a couple of things because he loves to be 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:35.080 part of the spectacle of creating content which who wouldn't 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:35.760 look so fun? 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.040 Right? It's all it's all gland behind the scenes, isn't it. 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.000 But ilo, Yeah, but I'm conscious also of you know, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.680 his digital footprint, his privacy, his safety because although I'm 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.960 certainly not at the scale of you know, other public 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.720 figures whose children are in the spotlight, such as you know, 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.360 he's not Northwest, but I don't want for him to 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:59.040 have to be subjected to the Internet any sooner than 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.920 he needs to be. And I also think that it's 0:04:01.920 --> 0:04:05.040 important for you know, he doesn't at his age because 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.200 he's you know, he's he's quite young. He doesn't understand 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.520 what it means to put things online and what the 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.600 ramifications are that the internet is forever that kind of stuff. 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.480 And of course all the stuff I've posted is all 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:16.359 is all sweet stuff. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:16.800 You know. 0:04:16.839 --> 0:04:18.440 I wouldn't be the kind of person to post something 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:22.599 embarrassing anyway, hopefully, although parents never really know what's cool, 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.400 do they never? 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:27.000 You know? And he would consent to it because it 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:32.480 looks like fun, and then could also say, yeah, I was. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.960 A child, I can't couldn't consent to. 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.279 Me, that's rightter in life, Yeah, it's not informed consent 0:04:39.520 --> 0:04:43.320 if the person isn't capable of understanding what it actually means. 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.719 So the other afternoon he said, we were my friend 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:48.599 and I were doing our makeup at the kitchen table 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.400 and he was like, can you do my makeup? So 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.880 I did the most gorgeous, little glowy moment, just a 0:04:52.880 --> 0:04:54.760 bit of you know, home beauty all over the face. 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:56.279 Everyone looks good with a bit of that. 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.160 Popped a little bit of you know, shimeria a shadow, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:01.200 and did his brow. I was just you know, to 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.280 make him feel like he was part of all the 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:05.440 part of the action. Pop some lip gloss on there, 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.560 and took a picture just because I want to remember. Yeah, 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.919 he literally looks exactly like me when he has makeup on. 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.760 It's like, ye, he's uncanny, how like we look. And 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:18.919 he's I took the photo, he goes. 0:05:18.880 --> 0:05:22.520 You get a filter of the younger you literally. 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.360 And he's like, are you gonna put that on the Facebook? 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:24.640 Mom? 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.599 And I was like, no, I'm not, but that's like cute. 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:30.960 So yeah, I definitely think I want to have all 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:33.120 those memories. And when he's old enough to have social media, 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.440 I'll be like, you're going to air drop you those 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.400 photos so you can post hashtag throwback. 0:05:36.560 --> 0:05:39.520 You know, I'll capture the memories, but I don't need 0:05:39.560 --> 0:05:40.080 to share them. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.000 And I'm really glad that you're doing that. 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.840 And I have a lot of friends who have their 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:50.080 children online and I don't like it. I watch it 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:52.839 and I just think, oh, this makes me really uncomfortable. 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:57.599 And if you're anyone who's listening, you know, I'm not 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.680 talking people who have a really small following. 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.839 Maybe we have more than ten k. 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:07.680 Yeah, and your public, like I know, Clementine Ford never 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:12.160 shows her small Yes, she calls him, but in her Facebook, 0:06:12.200 --> 0:06:14.400 she has a very private Facebook. 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.880 And she does show him and it's so. 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:20.839 Beautiful because we get to see him. It's you know, 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:24.880 obviously she's taking a risk, but she's doing it the 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.680 right way, I believe, Like, because we get to see 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.800 your family, gets to see your child who may not 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:33.760 be able to see them regularly, yes, in a you know, 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:35.560 in that kind of way, and everyone gets to comment 0:06:35.680 --> 0:06:36.120 and blah. 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:36.760 Blah blah blah blah. 0:06:36.760 --> 0:06:39.760 But yeah, it is especially people who are making money 0:06:39.800 --> 0:06:40.560 off their children. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:41.520 Yeah. 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.799 Absolutely, And I think that Clementine absolutely is someone who 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.320 like that that approach. For certainly, I learned from that 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:52.920 because you know, I definitely saw from my point of 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.560 view that once we had a conversation about it, and 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:57.440 I was like, you're so right about that, And you know, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.000 I do think that if you're gonna, yeah, share their 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:02.520 image and things like that, like there is a risk. 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:05.400 And I think certainly also from a safety point of view, 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.320 that I think probably applies much more in a much 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:12.280 more scary way for her because of the type of 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:17.840 very will we say, unhinged individuals who will sometimes comment 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.480 and the things they say. I think it's safer for 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.800 her to make that choice, absolutely so. But I definitely 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.960 would say that that same approach is like, that approach 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:30.800 has influenced what I do and how I do social media. 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:34.120 So for me, when I do post things same thing 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:37.680 private Facebook, there's a special list of people, which is 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.400 people who have actually met my child are on that list. 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.760 So even my personal Facebook friends who I'm like, I 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:45.320 only am friends with you because I knew you in 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.280 high school, they're not on that list because they're I 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.040 wouldn't invite into my house or have my kid hang 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:53.680 out with them. So that's kind of that's how I 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.320 measure that. That's my baseline. 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:56.600 Yeah, I like that. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.000 I have a personal one as well, and I have 0:07:59.040 --> 0:08:02.480 a public one and with Facebook, with Instagram, it's just. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.200 You know, all on and I'll put my kids up 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:08.480 all the time. And they're furry. They are furry. I 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.960 love it and no consent, not happy, but I don't care. 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.960 They're too cute. So I want to ask you. 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:22.240 There's something that you are doing and it's just launched 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.600 this week, so can you tell me and. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:27.240 Our listeners all about it? Because this is a bit 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:27.800 of a scoop. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:29.840 It is enough scoop. 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:34.000 You are you are definitely the first person two that 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:38.319 I've talked to about this, you know in this context. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:43.120 I so I am part of the really incredible let's 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:47.520 get explicit campaigns. So basically the incredible as Me James. 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.120 Some of you might know her as the author of 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:52.760 the book Kinky History or have seen her online talking 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:58.560 about Kinky History, doctor as Maos. She is now basically 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:00.880 encouraged us to be part of it because we want 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.280 to take back our bodies, take control of our bodies, 0:09:03.320 --> 0:09:06.040 saying enough is enough and put the narrative on what's 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:10.840 considered explicit, because what we've seen is that you know, 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:15.640 over the last few months, especially, this conversation around gendered 0:09:15.679 --> 0:09:19.200 violence continues and people are not talking about it in 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.760 a way, especially the media, in a way that actually 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.720 says what's going on. We see over and over again 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:28.760 that media is publications and people are writing about the 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:34.360 issue as if it's somebody's fault, but never the person 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:38.000 who perpetrated the crime. So I think being able to 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.640 take back that narrative, being able to say, you know, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:45.160 violence against women that happens every day, well. 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:47.000 Then let's have a calendar for every day. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.920 So I got together with some really incredible, iconic, gorgeous 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.960 humans and we had a photo shoot. There was actually 0:09:53.000 --> 0:09:55.480 two shoots. We did one on Gadgal Country in Sydney 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.400 and then there was one also numb in Melbourne where 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:03.240 you are gorgeous gal and so there was two groups 0:10:03.280 --> 0:10:04.480 of talent. 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:05.720 We all got together. 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.040 We got to pick our own concept of like what 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.640 we were gonna shoot for lots of us that was 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:13.560 something that meant something to us. So when you see 0:10:13.600 --> 0:10:15.640 my images, if you're kind of like, what does that 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.720 mean to you, oh, well I will tell you I 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.800 really wanted something powerful, something that almost went against what 0:10:22.840 --> 0:10:26.440 you expect in terms of pushing back against the idea 0:10:26.440 --> 0:10:29.880 that this you know that victims are the problem, that 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:34.199 you should be as someone who's a survivor of gender violence, 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.240 that you should have been smaller, you should have been less, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.240 you should have you know, changed the way that you were, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.480 rather than the person who perpetrated it not doing what 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:48.120 they did. Basically, the idea was that we would get 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:51.320 together create a calendar of important days. But instead of 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.400 them being the everyday, regular days that you mark on 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:55.839 the calendar, there are days where we know the data 0:10:55.880 --> 0:11:01.480 says that gender violence, violence against women takes place more prolifically. So, 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.760 you know, I think I saw something the other day, 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:08.559 someone talking about the fact that on things like Grand 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.880 finals and you know sports, days of significance in sport 0:11:13.040 --> 0:11:16.040 are often days where we see a rise in cases 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:19.040 being reported, or you know that the data says that 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:23.200 there are more instances of violence against women by men 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:25.120 on those days. 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:26.280 So we are. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.079 Asking everyone to mark their calendar. We're going to give 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:31.680 you a gorgeous calendar. We're going to donate the profits 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:36.760 to give it Domestic and Family Violence Appeal and they 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:41.079 are I am just so excited by the talent and 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:46.560 the images. Sosha from Full Bloom Photography has just it 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:48.120 was the most incredible experience too. 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:49.719 It was really safe and beautiful. 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:53.480 We have the best time running around in our undies, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:55.719 like during the day kind of you know, everyone was 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.480 getting their hair and makeup done. It was just you know, 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:02.120 very very Yeah, the girl moment, which was so fun. 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:05.480 And I think that, you know, we're really lucky to 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:09.280 have the opportunity to speak because I think that over 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:11.760 forty women this year have their voices taken away from 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.560 them and their lives, and so if we can turn 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.680 our expression of ourselves and our bodies into something so 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:23.880 powerful and also change that narrative, then that will be amazing. 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.360 That would be so amazing. Oh so I can't wait. 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.679 Can you tell us who else is in it? 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:33.959 Oh? I think I probably can so. 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.760 A couple of the incredible people that I got to 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.120 be on the shoot with include the beautiful Antoinette Latoufe, 0:12:41.000 --> 0:12:42.720 who we absolutely. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:45.839 Adore, love her, we do. 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:48.920 She was one of the incredible talent and we got 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.160 to also hang out and chat, which was great fun. 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:57.199 Maddie McCrae, if you are a follower of Hilarious Redheads 0:12:57.200 --> 0:13:00.199 on the Internet, then you will know who Maddie McCray is. 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.800 Maddie's a comedian, actor all round, good Egg love her. 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:06.199 I don't know her. 0:13:06.480 --> 0:13:11.199 Oh she's so, she's absolutely gorgeous. Who else the incredible 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:17.200 Bianca Hunt. If you know Bianca love yes, I'm for years, 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:18.760 She's gorgeous. 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:19.800 Of her for years. 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.000 One of the most incredible and intelligent people I have 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:24.480 ever met in my life. 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:28.360 And I have met a lot of people, but I really, really. 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:29.840 And you're an intelligent person. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.920 So I know, I know when I'm talking to someone 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:34.560 who's switched on. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.120 Girly tis one to know one yes. 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:40.600 And so if you've you might know Biancha from she 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.520 was on I'm a celebri Oh. 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:44.400 And you know what pissed me off? She was the 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:45.000 first to go. 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.600 I was so so excited to see her on there 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:52.480 and then to see her talk, and it looks like 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.760 they just got her to talk a few stories, a 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:58.200 few lived experiences, and then they were like, okay, bye, 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.559 thanks person of color, thank you goodbye. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.960 I don't know if that's the truth. I don't know, 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.320 but it's I don't know. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:08.560 It really pissed me off that she was the first 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:11.560 to go, because she certainly wasn't the one who deserved 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:12.160 to go first. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.560 Look, I think the reality is regardless of you know, 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.240 I think we all know that television productions are more 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:23.400 than just the bits you see on TV, obviously, but 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:25.680 I think the reality is if that's a TV show 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.400 where people vote, people are gonna always vote to keep 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.360 the people that they like and they resonate with because 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.360 they potentially don't want to think about the fact that 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.520 actually it would be more worthwhile for my life to 0:14:36.640 --> 0:14:39.360 listen to the stories of, hear the experiences of and 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:43.360 simply promote and be a supporter of a young woman 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:48.120 of color, a young black woman, because they're like, oh, well, 0:14:48.120 --> 0:14:51.120 I don't what's that person got to offer. Well, wait 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.480 and see, wait and see. That's my advice. 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:57.040 Yeah, what you could learn from that person. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.560 And also like, you know, and keep in mind too 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:04.280 that you know, it's not not wanting to in any 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:06.960 way like say that we shouldn't be learning from those people, 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:10.120 but also not that's not just why Bank is on 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:12.240 TV and why Bianca has been given jobs like that. 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.240 She's funny, she's smart, she's gorgeous, she's all the things, 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.840 she's talented, you know, and so it's it's also kind 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.000 of like let her have a chance because she's hot 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:24.360 new talent in the industry as well, so it's sort 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:26.320 of like it's not it's also not just about what 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.040 you get out of it from her, but giving her 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:30.920 the opportunity. You're part of the you know, I think 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:33.080 if we're talking about you know, we've just come off 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:35.680 the back of Reconciliation Week, and I know that a 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.200 lot of the conversation is about the fact that reconciliation 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:40.800 is a concept that no longer has the value that 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:43.120 it used to after, you know, following what happened last 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:48.000 year with the referendum. But I think that it's really 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.120 you know, then we go, well, what's my personal commitment then, 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:53.960 as as a person living on this country who is 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:57.880 not aboriginal or terrestrate islander and doesn't have that connection 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.760 and isn't part of that you know, big country is 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.040 part of all of the people who are the traditional owners. 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:06.680 Well then why don't we give back? 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:08.960 You know, we talk about paying the rent, how important 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:12.960 that is about allowing people to tell their own stories 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:16.960 and also being willing to get uncomfortable when they're truth telling. 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:20.040 And I think that people's discomfort with truth telling really 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.160 comes out in those situations where they go, oh, we'd 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:23.520 rather just vote her off because. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.720 Then we don't have to feel uncomfortable about that. 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:29.160 Yeah, completely, completely. 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.240 Yeah, yeah, and you know it's true what you said, Like, 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:35.680 it's not just what she can teach us, it's seeing 0:16:35.720 --> 0:16:39.840 her like us as well and giving her that opportunity. Yes, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.280 you don't don't write someone off just because you think 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.400 they're not like you when they could be just like 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:46.000 you and. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:46.760 You didn't know. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.680 Absolutely, and I think the things. 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:52.440 That that could be a lesson indeed, and I think 0:16:52.640 --> 0:16:55.040 it doesn't. TV doesn't have to be smart all the time. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.160 You know, you watch I watch. The TV that I 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.880 watch is just like something to switch the brain of sometimes, 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.080 or watching reality shows because you just think, oh, this 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:04.280 is hilarious, it's not too scripted. I want to see 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:07.480 something that's real. That's the power of reality TV. But 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.520 it's also kind of like, if it's going to be real, 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.960 it should represent everyone, and that means a diverse group 0:17:11.960 --> 0:17:14.520 of people having a chat, not just a bunch of 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.120 the same, same, same, same all around the campfire. 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.560 So the calendar sounds amazing. I cannot wait to buy 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:25.080 one and the proceeds go to WHO Again. 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.480 All of the profits will be donated to the Give 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.040 It Domestic and Family Violence Appeal. So they're released with 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.840 a retail price of forty dollars, which is representative of 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:35.800 the more than forty women who've lost their lives to 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.760 gender base violence in Australia just this year, and a 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.560 digital version will also be available with a pay what 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:46.480 you can option, So obviously if digital's your thing, it 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.399 will be pay what you can. But remembering that if 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.160 we're donating all of those profits, the more you give, 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:52.920 the more they get. 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.240 Yeah, I didn't even know there was a digital calendar. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.359 That's how old boomer. 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:02.600 May why, but I would still be getting the I mean, 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:04.640 there's nothing better than putting that up on the wall 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.720 in the bathroom, a calendar. I love doing that every year. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.359 I just love it. I never look at it apart 0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.560 from the pictures, because you know, I don't use a calendar. 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:14.680 I use a digital calendar. 0:18:14.280 --> 0:18:17.959 Now, but I still love that I have a hanging 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.359 calendar with a great you know whatever, like it once 0:18:21.480 --> 0:18:23.600 used to be the fireman with puppies and then it's 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:27.480 just puppies. But this is a really great one. This 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:30.240 is a really really good one. So I'm really glad 0:18:30.240 --> 0:18:32.119 that you made it. You were just saying that you 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.320 were doing the photoshit and you're running around in your undies, 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:37.040 and you know, the first thought that popped into my 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.480 head was, I just love how often you're in your undies. 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:41.640 I just love it. 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:46.840 I love how often I get to see me represented 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:51.560 in you on my phone, Like it's just it makes me, 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:53.920 It makes my hearts well because you know, once upon 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:57.800 a time, we never saw ourselves as beautiful. We saw 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.000 ourselves as the butt of jokes only. Yeah, and it 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:06.320 is just so beautiful because I have completely redone my 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:12.600 algorithm so I only follow inspiring people. I was driving 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.199 in the car with my friend and we pulled up 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.200 next to, you know, the wall of all different billboards, 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.639 like it's always next to you, and Minky was in 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:25.680 the latest whatever she's working on at the moment. 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.080 Cleopatra's bling dot com, wasn't it. 0:19:29.560 --> 0:19:31.280 That's it? Yeah, that's it. 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.840 Yeah, And my friend just looked and it was like 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:36.639 he was face to face with her because we were 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:39.280 so close, and he just went, oh and then just 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:44.359 continue the conversation. And I grew up with boys. And 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:48.719 once upon a time, if we saw a fat person 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:53.160