Speaker 1: Hey coops, Hey man, the bloke, the Canadian bloke who
Speaker 1: does the drawer? Yeah, can I just I just want
Speaker 1: to give him a call of it some one second.
Speaker 2: Are you sure you and your mates on the couch
Speaker 2: don't do the drawer?
Speaker 3: Hello's fan? How are you? It's Peter All Andy's great. Listen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's going great. Just one thing, just one
Speaker 1: little problem. Yeah, we're six rounds in and everyone's playing
Speaker 1: each other three times already.
Speaker 3: Okay, what is going on?
Speaker 2: You're normally not that funny.
Speaker 4: That's the best joke you've done on television for a
Speaker 4: long time. I agree with you, bar I agree with
Speaker 4: you because, like, come on, can we just have everyone
Speaker 4: play each other once and then work it out?
Speaker 3: I don't know, it has been so difficult.
Speaker 4: The Roosters play the Broncos and the Panthers twice in
Speaker 4: the first seven weeks. The Tigers play the Knights and
Speaker 4: the Eels twice.
Speaker 2: In the first seven weeks.
Speaker 4: Like, you don't need to send the document off to
Speaker 4: wherever it is to fare Canada to work it out.
Speaker 2: Skeat you and your mates on the couch just saw it.
Speaker 3: I'm flthy.
Speaker 1: I'll never go to Canada. Again, I'll never wear down
Speaker 1: him again. Did you like Latrell and the six?
Speaker 4: I like Gray at fullback, so I like Latrell playing
Speaker 4: anywhere that suits a team. Obviously, Cody's at six, so
Speaker 4: there's that mean Theatrell plays center or whatever.
Speaker 2: The one thing I will say is.
Speaker 4: The game was on the line against the Roosters, he
Speaker 4: went to six and he came out with that big play.
Speaker 2: Yep, right.
Speaker 4: But in terms of having an impact and really going
Speaker 4: after the contest, Latrell had three runs for the whole game.
Speaker 4: The games in the balance, he had one run in
Speaker 4: the second half when he ran the ball, he created
Speaker 4: two tries. Yeah, he had two tries cysts from three runs, Like,
Speaker 4: if he has ten runs, what's he doing? If he
Speaker 4: had the effort of Gray he had twenty four runs,
Speaker 4: like he had something like that. I just think he
Speaker 4: just needs to work harder when his team needs him.
Speaker 1: Probably an adjustment of hogus coops because we've said this before,
Speaker 1: Like he did some beautiful touches of the ball. You're right,
Speaker 1: his strength is running the football.
Speaker 4: How many times do we see players move to the
Speaker 4: harves and all of a sudden become past.
Speaker 1: Centric's It's the greatest challenge to take someone.
Speaker 3: It's like always the belief Coop is that.
Speaker 1: You take your strengths and dictate it to the number
Speaker 1: on your back, not the around. Don't let the number
Speaker 1: dictate how you're going to play. Just take your strengths
Speaker 1: to the jersey.
Speaker 4: Even Jerome Leweyes fighting with that at the moment, like
Speaker 4: just a little bit too much of a game manager
Speaker 4: as opposed to that forward thrust runner.
Speaker 2: And for latrelle like when.
Speaker 4: He runs a football, in terms of his run verse
Speaker 4: being effective, he would probably have the highest percentage.
Speaker 2: So then it just comes back to doing more of
Speaker 2: the running.
Speaker 4: And particularly when his team was up against it with
Speaker 4: no Cody and a few other injuries in the halves,
Speaker 4: he just needed to concentrate on his strengths.
Speaker 3: More spoken of a few halves.
Speaker 1: They're battling with the discipline to run the football a
Speaker 1: little Nathan and Clearing. I can see that in Nathan's
Speaker 1: game at the moment. Jamal Foggerty the name is as
Speaker 1: we're recording this, he's got a big decision to make.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you believe it's a two horse race between
Speaker 4: the Raiders and Manly, look, Jamal has been a good
Speaker 4: servant to Canberra. That team is on the up, like
Speaker 4: they've got, yeah, a dominant experience forward pack, but then
Speaker 4: there's got this really young and youthful, exciting outside backs
Speaker 4: and Jamel seems to be that the key glue in
Speaker 4: between that. But the Raiders almost want him to hang
Speaker 4: around for twelve months so they can usher someone else
Speaker 4: in and then maybe be in a position to dominate
Speaker 4: the competition. Whereas if he goes to Manly, Jamal's a
Speaker 4: solid player, but he needs a bit of strike around
Speaker 4: him to make him more effective. He does, and you
Speaker 4: look at Manly, there's Tom, but if Tom's not fit,
Speaker 4: what does Jamel do with Luke Brooks and things like that.
Speaker 4: So it's fifty to fifty because the Raiders have a
Speaker 4: one year deal and the Manly.
Speaker 2: Have offered a two year deal.
Speaker 4: Not sure what the money is, but there's this He's
Speaker 4: probably got more ingredients and recipe at the Raiders, but
Speaker 4: then keep him.
Speaker 1: From It's a tough one, Coops, because he's been there
Speaker 1: through where there's been some tough times and now I
Speaker 1: can see them coming out the other side. And I
Speaker 1: know they're only offering him one year, but if he
Speaker 1: gets there next year and he brains them and they
Speaker 1: make a top four finish, then you would expect there'll
Speaker 1: be another year on the table. And I said last
Speaker 1: night on the show, this young crop of Raiders coming
Speaker 1: through simultaneously remind me very much of the crop of
Speaker 1: youngsters which led into the Green Machine era, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's a big statement because she had
Speaker 1: blokes like you know, Lazarus, Stuart and whatnot. But this
Speaker 1: is this is a great crop of young players they've
Speaker 1: got coming through.
Speaker 4: And they need someone like Fogy to be that, to
Speaker 4: be the leader and the influence over group.
Speaker 1: Knights lost their half back Jack Cogger. They moved Phoenix
Speaker 1: Crossland to seven. I thought, I thought yesterday there not
Speaker 1: because of Phoenix, but they just.
Speaker 3: Attack was way of sort.
Speaker 2: What do you make of it?
Speaker 3: I think sometimes coops.
Speaker 1: I not a lot of teams in this competition moved
Speaker 1: the ball sideways. Well, well, in a minute, we'll do
Speaker 1: some stuff on Melbourne and we'll do stuff on particularly
Speaker 1: North Queensland because North Queensland have adjusted their style of
Speaker 1: football or just the way they're attacking.
Speaker 3: I thought, I just think.
Speaker 1: When when Newcastle moved the ball sideways a lot of times,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, they move it sideways.
Speaker 3: For the sake of it.
Speaker 1: They haven't got the foot in the door, or even
Speaker 1: sometimes when they get the foot in the door that
Speaker 1: I look to push the ball east west.
Speaker 3: They've got a simpler look. No matter of people. I've
Speaker 3: said a lot about a lot of good good sides
Speaker 3: that have.
Speaker 1: Been that have been out of form in their six
Speaker 1: rounds do less centralize your attack.
Speaker 2: And one thing that.
Speaker 4: Is hard to pick apart when you're watching foot is
Speaker 4: when a halfback makes the smartest decision to shift on
Speaker 4: the right play, not the wrong player.
Speaker 2: There's a big difference in that.
Speaker 4: If it's a slow momentum back foot play the ball
Speaker 4: and you still go sideways, means the defense is going
Speaker 4: to be a couple of meters up off the line,
Speaker 4: forcing Calen Ponger into tougher decisions.
Speaker 2: Right, But they.
Speaker 4: Played against the Dogs were kept to zero. They almost
Speaker 4: looked like they were playing on a smaller field. They
Speaker 4: would just run out of space all the time. And
Speaker 4: against the Tigers on the weekend, they just didn't have
Speaker 4: any answers.
Speaker 2: They weren't effective in the way they did it.
Speaker 4: And when you're trying to be effective against a team,
Speaker 4: particularly inside the red zone, when the fullbacks in the line.
Speaker 4: As a golden rule, you need every play behind the
Speaker 4: football running an effective line. Right Melbourne Storm and they've
Speaker 4: got accountability across the team because Craig Bellmy here in
Speaker 4: the red zone, Craig Bellamy makes every player player. So
Speaker 4: when Munster passes the ball to Hughes and Papenhausen, have
Speaker 4: a look at the middle forwards all doing something to
Speaker 4: engage Penriss line. They're in the right hole at the
Speaker 4: right time time in intent quick play the ball. They
Speaker 4: get up even on this side back to Harry Grant,
Speaker 4: they're in position, but they go this side to Jerome
Speaker 4: Hughes and it's effective. They score the try in the
Speaker 4: corner Jerome Hughes. Good decision making and the tries in
Speaker 4: the corner with the Newcastle Knights against the Tigers, similar shape.
Speaker 4: But just watch this here, Croslin to Kaylen Ponger, the
Speaker 4: Thompson Brothers, Tyson, Frazelk, Pierce Paul completely ineffective, not doing
Speaker 4: anything to disconnect the Tiger's line. And it's why the
Speaker 4: ball goes backward, sideways and around and abouts because there's
Speaker 4: just zero help from those middle guys that are meant
Speaker 4: to do something by engaging defenders in.
Speaker 1: The line, because these days there's no excuse for that
Speaker 1: because players are these days, i think sometimes to the
Speaker 1: detriment of the team, are locked into.
Speaker 3: Channels, so there's no reason.
Speaker 1: It's like the old days were blokes were just wander
Speaker 1: around the fields up to the half.
Speaker 3: To grab and stock piling around.
Speaker 2: You should be in a position to help.
Speaker 4: If you're being locked in a position you should be,
Speaker 4: and the general rules are half when you go to
Speaker 4: the line, you really shouldn't throw the pass across a
Speaker 4: gap without a runner going into it. The reason why
Speaker 4: I say that is if you do that, it means
Speaker 4: that defender just slides off because he's not being held up.
Speaker 2: So when a half.
Speaker 4: Goes to the line, you should always have someone in
Speaker 4: that whole outside your target defender and the knights. It
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if you're finixed crosslin or the best half
Speaker 4: back in the world that having in effective shape is
Speaker 4: not going to help.
Speaker 1: If you're going to push the ball sideways, if that's
Speaker 1: what you're going to style the football, you've got to do.
Speaker 1: You've got to do what Melbourne obviously do Coop well,
Speaker 1: you know yourself when you played is great attack in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways is an exact science. Little things
Speaker 1: like you ps, you're sitting there. You're sitting there with
Speaker 1: the gap there, And the difference between being able to
Speaker 1: be two sideways and playing nice and straight and stripping
Speaker 1: and team short is sometimes a subtle as hitting the
Speaker 1: right half of the hole. You know, there's the hole,
Speaker 1: you know, hit that side of the hole to pull
Speaker 1: this defender out, it out of shape, as opposed to
Speaker 1: hitting that side of the hole, which basically just that subtly,
Speaker 1: just that much makes a big difference to what you're
Speaker 1: trying to achieve down the line.
Speaker 4: One of the first lessons I learned as a half back,
Speaker 4: a very very very old wise man once told me,
Speaker 4: don't run it inside shoulders run it the good part
Speaker 4: of the whole, good smart, The good part of the
Speaker 4: hole opens up the defender to make it asision.
Speaker 1: It'll get your runner at the very least a one
Speaker 1: on one tackle.
Speaker 3: Coops. Let's talk about mate. Look and.
Speaker 1: There's been a theme in this podcast almost like centralize, simplify,
Speaker 1: do less when sides are struggling a little bit and
Speaker 1: the reason we say that with the speed of the rucks,
Speaker 1: the vulnerability is around the ruck and those type defenders,
Speaker 1: and there's enormous benefit in that.
Speaker 3: Number one.
Speaker 1: If you can simplify it and your centralize generally as
Speaker 1: really you have a lower error rate. Second thing is
Speaker 1: is that the engine that drives a football team are
Speaker 1: the middles. So if you centralize and you're making the
Speaker 1: opposition middles may tackle after tackle after tackle, and you
Speaker 1: start to dominate possession, then you're burning out their engine.
Speaker 1: But the other thing coops about playing that really tight
Speaker 1: stuff around the ruck and the challenging those big blokes
Speaker 1: there is that it doesn't allow the defense to defend
Speaker 1: as a collective.
Speaker 3: That makes sense.
Speaker 1: Teams, as you know, are taught to defend as a
Speaker 1: collective as a group. With your man you're inside and outside.
Speaker 1: So when you push the ball down the light sideways
Speaker 1: you are. You are allowing a team to defend as
Speaker 1: a collective communicate when they're on the back foot and
Speaker 1: you're just coming out of them like that, it's almost
Speaker 1: each man to themselves.
Speaker 3: That is the benefit.
Speaker 2: Of the fast ruck in terms of consistency.
Speaker 4: Understand what you're talking about, because centralizing your attack around
Speaker 4: the nine through the middle part of the field. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it does, it's reliable, and it does less than the
Speaker 4: er account. But I think in today's game, you've got
Speaker 4: to be able to do both.
Speaker 3: Yes, you can't just.
Speaker 4: Be one demensional down the center of attack. You'll win
Speaker 4: most games that when you come against the good ones,
Speaker 4: you won't beat them. And then if you're two fluffy
Speaker 4: by the way you go sideways. It's whether you can
Speaker 4: execute your players to beat the teams on the day.
Speaker 4: But someone like Melbourne probably perfectly built. The Broncos are
Speaker 4: perfectly built where you can within the trend of ten
Speaker 4: or fifteen minutes of a game, you can change. You
Speaker 4: can go centralize them all of a sudden they tighten up,
Speaker 4: then you go wide, or vice versa. So if you
Speaker 4: were to build something from the ground up, yes, centralized,
Speaker 4: let's get that model downpat first and then we'll start
Speaker 4: looking someone like the Tigers tend to go two sideways
Speaker 4: too early. Yeah, but when it works, it's pretty, but
Speaker 4: it can be shut down if that offensive line moves
Speaker 4: around well.
Speaker 1: And it's a hard discipline to keep that ball centralized
Speaker 1: because growing up as far as regularly get education right,
Speaker 1: for any young kids years go forward and when the
Speaker 1: foot's in the door, we we get momentum push it sideways.
Speaker 1: So we neatinally had that algorithm a side who's got
Speaker 1: the balance right? Who started to and I thought on
Speaker 1: the weekend against South All the Cowboys are very good.
Speaker 1: There was more upfilled punch far less unnecessary sideways ball movement.
Speaker 1: What really impressed me was when the foot was in
Speaker 1: the door and they were punching through, they kept put
Speaker 1: it this way.
Speaker 3: The more momentum there was, the straighter they would play
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: Robson was great at dummy half drink water was great.
Speaker 1: Cotter chipped in and did was floating around there. There
Speaker 1: was one in the second half where you watch and
Speaker 1: probably tympertize it and then I has a tremendous run
Speaker 1: by the way is starting to come out of his
Speaker 1: shell again.
Speaker 3: He goes forward, punches through.
Speaker 1: At this point this is where North Queensland would oftentimes
Speaker 1: scale Okay, foots in the door, let's push it sideways.
Speaker 1: Didn't just goes bang, takes the next play gun barrel
Speaker 1: straight and that was the theme of how they played.
Speaker 3: They just challenged in around the rucks. When they did
Speaker 3: go sideways coops when they did mate.
Speaker 1: If you look at the difference what they're doing a
Speaker 1: few weeks ago to what they did in the weekend
Speaker 1: when they did decide to advance the ball towards the sideline,
Speaker 1: made the straight runners, they were just peeling off gun
Speaker 1: barrel straight and just they just stripped them short of numbers.
Speaker 3: They were really really good on the weekend. The Cowboys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go give Robson and drink Water their leaders,
Speaker 4: a big rap, because at halftime it was yeah, they're
Speaker 4: okay sort of, and drink Water said they weren't really
Speaker 4: happy at all. But to then shift the mindset and
Speaker 4: the game planned to be way more direct, way more dominant.
Speaker 4: It shows that they've got footy IQ.
Speaker 2: So they're good.
Speaker 4: Stuff is really good and they're starting to see that now.
Speaker 4: I've hit a little bit of form off that poor start.
Speaker 4: But when they play bad like it's a big question mark.
Speaker 4: Whether the Cowboys can dominate septem.
Speaker 1: Then is very much their indicator, isn't it If you
Speaker 1: could get if you hit to Jeremiah and then I
Speaker 1: before a game and go how you're feeling and look
Speaker 1: at his eyes if he's up for it, If he's
Speaker 1: up for it.
Speaker 3: You back them all the way him.
Speaker 4: And drink Water as well, because drink Water's got the
Speaker 4: X factor that you need.
Speaker 2: And when he's like sideways.
Speaker 4: Risk versus reward over the top passes, you think you've
Speaker 4: got him hooked. But when he's left foot back inside,
Speaker 4: like scheming around looking for an opportunity through the middle,
Speaker 4: that's when he starts dominating the rugget the game.
Speaker 1: Tell them about Penrith, everybody's everybody's got their theories.
Speaker 3: There's a bit going on.
Speaker 4: There is a bit going on, and defensively, they've got
Speaker 4: their issues, and this is a team that lives and
Speaker 4: breathes defense. I'm not going to try and solve that rubisque,
Speaker 4: but I think part of the issue with their attack
Speaker 4: is to me, I feel like they've run very similar
Speaker 4: plays and shapes for the last sort of let's say
Speaker 4: two years, three years, and the strength of that as
Speaker 4: that everyone knows their role. We spoke about everyone's in
Speaker 4: the right place at the right time. But when the
Speaker 4: pass goes from Yo to Cleary to Lewis like it
Speaker 4: used to, there was just this beautiful motion of the
Speaker 4: ball being put down in the corner by top because
Speaker 4: everything was moving, every pass was on the spot, every
Speaker 4: player was super effective. Take you know, maybe clearing out
Speaker 4: it with an injury. Edward's out with an injury, but
Speaker 4: definitely Leui out of it as well. They run the
Speaker 4: same plays in the same shape, yet the people in
Speaker 4: those positions aren't as effective getting that pass across all
Speaker 4: the show and go or hiding the ball, just all
Speaker 4: those little things.
Speaker 2: And the reason why they don't.
Speaker 4: Put the ball on the corner now, I believe is
Speaker 4: because they're running the same shape, but they're less effective.
Speaker 4: At the same show, every team was running the two
Speaker 4: forwards with Isaiao passed out to the halfback. But now
Speaker 4: of a sudden, that's not as effective as before because
Speaker 4: it's not the play, it's the nuance within the play
Speaker 4: that is missing out. And it could be a player
Speaker 4: with less skill. It could be a middle forward not
Speaker 4: actually connecting to a defender and engaging someone for Isaiah.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a little bit of a maybe
Speaker 4: rework their plays and their shapes a little bit the
Speaker 4: better suits some of their players.
Speaker 2: At the moment.
Speaker 4: But I think Nathan is trying to cover for everything,
Speaker 4: every little gap they got.
Speaker 2: He's trying to do it like.
Speaker 4: His touches have gone through the roof, his runs have
Speaker 4: dropped a little bit, and he's becoming sort of the
Speaker 4: guy that's trying to do everything at once, but sort
Speaker 4: of not being great at the things he's great at.
Speaker 3: Let's often of the Johns variety that started last year.
Speaker 1: In our podcasts, we interviewed Nathan and you got lots.
Speaker 3: And I said to I was talking to Nathan.
Speaker 1: I said, Nathan, when I watch you, am I right
Speaker 1: in saying this, I said, when I watch you and
Speaker 1: I know you're on, I said, the first two or
Speaker 1: three times you get the ball, you challenge the opposition,
Speaker 1: you take him on, you come off.
Speaker 3: Left or right foot, and you're really drilling.
Speaker 1: And he said yes, And he said, Nathan said, for him,
Speaker 1: running the football is a discipline. He's got to keep
Speaker 1: reminding himself that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Going into this game the other night, I thought to myself, right,
Speaker 1: they've got to win this one.
Speaker 3: First thing.
Speaker 1: I'm expecting Nathan's going to run the ball first two
Speaker 1: or three times, and he didn't. And there was a
Speaker 1: moment late in the game, Coups he received the ball
Speaker 1: on the right hand side of the field and I
Speaker 1: could see there was space off of right foot if
Speaker 1: you come off the right foot just there was a
Speaker 1: half gap there that I reckon if he'd had his
Speaker 1: running INSTI there, he would have he would have come
Speaker 1: off the right foot and he would have went through
Speaker 1: and scored the try. He caught the ball, I thought,
Speaker 1: here he goes and he went for the double cut
Speaker 1: out out of the top, winning the sideline.
Speaker 3: And that I think for me, that that symbolizes.
Speaker 1: Where Penrith are out at the moment is the fact
Speaker 1: that they are very past centric. They are trying to
Speaker 1: create by pushing the ball sideways. Not enough thrust, not
Speaker 1: enough running.
Speaker 4: We've spoken about Cleary, drink Water and Latrell, three completely
Speaker 4: different players in terms of way they go about it.
Speaker 4: But the key part to all of them is a
Speaker 4: run first mentality. Yes, because what run first mentality does.
Speaker 4: If you're a threat to run the ball, that opens
Speaker 4: up passing lanes, Whereas if you go to passing lanes first,
Speaker 4: you've lost the threat of running the ball. Like there's
Speaker 4: guys like when Karen Monster plays in a big game,
Speaker 4: are you grand final Origin, He's a fullback that plays
Speaker 4: five to eight. Mostly he will go to dummy half
Speaker 4: and run. You watch him, he just gets the ball
Speaker 4: and has a because he wants to get into the
Speaker 4: groove in the game.
Speaker 2: So there's a there's a lot to be said about
Speaker 2: and is a discipline thing. It is a discipline. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel for a lot of the young guys who
Speaker 1: have come into the site. Two aspects. So the young
Speaker 1: guy like Blaze and the other night we saw the
Speaker 1: micd up vision of Penrith in Vegas and there's an
Speaker 1: aerial shot above a scrum and when you watch that
Speaker 1: sequence at one play, it gives you an idea of
Speaker 1: how complex Penrith attack is because you've got blokes jumping
Speaker 1: and one bloke swinging here Nathan swinging around the other side. Now,
Speaker 1: if you're coming into that site as a young guy
Speaker 1: off one preseason I think he missed a lot of
Speaker 1: the preseason through injury. You'd be out there with all
Speaker 1: these people moving around, your eyes be rolling in.
Speaker 3: The back your head a little bit.
Speaker 1: So it's all these young guys getting used to that.
Speaker 1: And the other thing too, Coops, is all these young
Speaker 1: guys are coming into first grade.
Speaker 3: There's fresh faced.
Speaker 1: Playing in the premiership winning team where everyone's after him.
Speaker 3: So every single side that they play this.
Speaker 1: Year are going to be just about at their best,
Speaker 1: were preparing to be at their best.
Speaker 3: That's that's tough on young blokes.
Speaker 4: And whether it's that complex system or whatever, it's your
Speaker 4: role within that system will play that makes the ball
Speaker 4: put down the corner. I've always said when a winger
Speaker 4: puts the ball down in the centimeter of space in
Speaker 4: the corner, it's because of the multiple little centimeters.
Speaker 2: Across the past that make that space for that to happen.
Speaker 4: And Penith at the moment, are not just getting those
Speaker 4: ten centimeters of time and space in the middle part
Speaker 4: to get the ball out to the fringes.
Speaker 1: When Melbourne started rolling yesterday, coops I Melbourne are ten
Speaker 1: out of ten entertainment. When they like that dry Sunday
Speaker 1: afternoon football may they just zing the ball around. The
Speaker 1: level of skill right across the park, their back rowers
Speaker 1: you know, to catch and pass and everything.
Speaker 3: It was just beautiful watching.
Speaker 4: Look at Melbourne this year in terms of losing last
Speaker 4: year's Grand Final, they've got redemped shit and in terms
Speaker 4: of the spine their forward how balanced they are their
Speaker 4: game style defense Orientaty can attack from anywhere they are
Speaker 4: in absolute pole position and there's some teams that are
Speaker 4: pushing next to them, but they put it all together.
Speaker 4: They have ingredients to a premiership right there, and they're
Speaker 4: playing like there after.
Speaker 3: Something too too. Who impressed me just with that theme
Speaker 3: we're talking about about fast guys with footwork through the middle.
Speaker 3: The guy who really caused Melbourne.
Speaker 1: A lot of problems yesterday in the first half in
Speaker 1: a side that was getting was getting belted.
Speaker 3: It was Aaron Clark.
Speaker 1: That's shorter, faster, middle forward with footwork. He caused Melbourne
Speaker 1: a lot of problems yesterday.
Speaker 4: So do you feel like that middle ford who's sort
Speaker 4: of bulky can move with let's say a smaller frame
Speaker 4: fullback than some guys are doing really well? There's a
Speaker 4: bit of a shift in that trend in the game
Speaker 4: with out.
Speaker 1: Of doubt, without a doubt, those smaller blokes zipping around
Speaker 1: the rucks against the bigger middles. I think that's where
Speaker 1: a lot of the magic's been happening.
Speaker 2: Because the Dogs have got that.
Speaker 4: In terms of the middle Fords, kurk Man does it
Speaker 4: really well and they've got Kinnor Tracy.
Speaker 2: At the back.
Speaker 3: Tom Starling but he's doing really well k Weeks.
Speaker 1: Mabe, it just goes on on these Joe Gray, the smaller,
Speaker 1: the smaller fullbacks, the zippy thirteen middles. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: where a lot of stuff's going on.
Speaker 3: Coops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree that if you are let's say big
Speaker 4: Ford pack and your strength is just like the middle
Speaker 4: third consolidation, then play to your strength.
Speaker 2: Don't try and be something you're not capable of doing.
Speaker 4: But unfortunate for other teams, Melbourne Storm have the complete set.
Speaker 4: They can do different styles within the context of the game,
Speaker 4: but don't try. For example, the Dogs don't try and
Speaker 4: play a centralized, dominant forward pack game because you just
Speaker 4: don't have the powerful forwards to do that. So they're
Speaker 4: playing to their strengths and other teams need to do
Speaker 4: that as well.
Speaker 3: Just wonder finishing.
Speaker 1: I was just watching this the other day and I thought,
Speaker 1: my god, he reminds me of David Peachy that try
Speaker 1: the Will Kennedy's card.
Speaker 3: Well, he's good.
Speaker 1: To one, but the one where he just he zipped
Speaker 1: around the rocks and go Peachy was.
Speaker 3: I had one year with Peach. He was such Coops,
Speaker 3: an amazing.
Speaker 1: Player, like I've never seen a player be able to
Speaker 1: have the instincts where he would feel a player about
Speaker 1: to move into his space and defender like he had
Speaker 1: Like I remember once watching him a training and he
Speaker 1: scoop a ball up and he ran right and he
Speaker 1: would he beat a guy coops like this, Like he
Speaker 1: would sense simultaneously as a guy a defender moved into
Speaker 1: his space, he'd just move around and it was just
Speaker 1: pure instinct and just the nature of the way he
Speaker 1: rolled and ran.
Speaker 3: Kennedy very very similar.
Speaker 4: Yeah, big to the capture fits in the Sharks. Yeah,
Speaker 4: because you know they've been a little bit hot, cold, inconsistent,
Speaker 4: but they've gone to Vegas, Townsville, Camber and Perth and
Speaker 4: they come out.
Speaker 2: And perform that way. I thought it was solid. It
Speaker 2: was really rock soil.
Speaker 4: That's the type of performance that you can go, oh, like,
Speaker 4: you know, bit tied or I don't really feel it doing.
Speaker 4: But they weren't great, but they were good enough for
Speaker 4: long parts of that game to get the job done.
Speaker 4: Trindleed to Trisis Kennedy with his thing, and sometimes that's
Speaker 4: what you need. You just need to fight through the
Speaker 4: tough times and some of your best players will end
Speaker 4: up getting the points for you.
Speaker 3: Coop.
Speaker 1: This Friday going to be it's more than a game,
Speaker 1: be an event. South Sydney versus Dogs, e's to Friday,
Speaker 1: always a big game. Initially they're expecting they said over
Speaker 1: forty thousand. Last week it went to over fifty three
Speaker 1: early over sixty. Now they're saying could be over seventy
Speaker 1: thousand people at the game.
Speaker 4: That's epic, mate. When the Dogs f yeah, Dogs have
Speaker 4: a party. And two they're coming off a really good performance.
Speaker 4: They absolutely suffocated the Knights then the bye, so they're
Speaker 4: cherry ripe like they should be fight up for a
Speaker 4: big performance because if the Dogs in the style they
Speaker 4: play with their fast moving defense, get up, get back,
Speaker 4: get up, get back, you need to be redlining with energy.
Speaker 4: And then when they attack they like to shift the
Speaker 4: ball around. So I reckon that they're going to be
Speaker 4: really up for it because undefeated, they've done a lot
Speaker 4: of good things, and the Dogs fans they're ready to
Speaker 4: have a party.
Speaker 1: Great day Friday, Easter, eggs, church, beer, football, So which.
Speaker 2: One of those aren't you doing? Which one of those
Speaker 2: aren't you doing?
Speaker 3: Church? God bless