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Speaker 1: Hey coops, Hey man, the bloke, the Canadian bloke who

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Speaker 1: does the drawer? Yeah, can I just I just want

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Speaker 2: Are you sure you and your mates on the couch

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Speaker 3: Hello's fan? How are you? It's Peter All Andy's great. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's going great. Just one thing, just one

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Speaker 1: little problem. Yeah, we're six rounds in and everyone's playing

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Speaker 1: each other three times already.

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Speaker 3: Okay, what is going on?

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Speaker 2: You're normally not that funny.

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Speaker 4: That's the best joke you've done on television for a

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Speaker 4: long time. I agree with you, bar I agree with

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Speaker 4: you because, like, come on, can we just have everyone

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Speaker 4: play each other once and then work it out?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, it has been so difficult.

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Speaker 4: The Roosters play the Broncos and the Panthers twice in

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Speaker 4: the first seven weeks. The Tigers play the Knights and

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Speaker 4: the Eels twice.

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Speaker 2: In the first seven weeks.

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Speaker 4: Like, you don't need to send the document off to

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Speaker 4: wherever it is to fare Canada to work it out.

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Speaker 2: Skeat you and your mates on the couch just saw it.

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Speaker 3: I'm flthy.

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Speaker 1: I'll never go to Canada. Again, I'll never wear down

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Speaker 1: him again. Did you like Latrell and the six?

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Speaker 4: I like Gray at fullback, so I like Latrell playing

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Speaker 4: anywhere that suits a team. Obviously, Cody's at six, so

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Speaker 2: The one thing I will say is.

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Speaker 4: The game was on the line against the Roosters, he

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Speaker 4: went to six and he came out with that big play.

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Speaker 2: Yep, right.

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Speaker 4: But in terms of having an impact and really going

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Speaker 4: after the contest, Latrell had three runs for the whole game.

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Speaker 4: The games in the balance, he had one run in

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Speaker 4: the second half when he ran the ball, he created

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Speaker 4: two tries. Yeah, he had two tries cysts from three runs, Like,

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Speaker 4: if he has ten runs, what's he doing? If he

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Speaker 4: had the effort of Gray he had twenty four runs,

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Speaker 4: like he had something like that. I just think he

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Speaker 1: Probably an adjustment of hogus coops because we've said this before,

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Speaker 1: Like he did some beautiful touches of the ball. You're right,

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Speaker 1: his strength is running the football.

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Speaker 4: How many times do we see players move to the

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Speaker 1: Centric's It's the greatest challenge to take someone.

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Speaker 3: It's like always the belief Coop is that.

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Speaker 1: You take your strengths and dictate it to the number

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Speaker 1: dictate how you're going to play. Just take your strengths

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Speaker 4: Even Jerome Leweyes fighting with that at the moment, like

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Speaker 2: And for latrelle like when.

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Speaker 4: He runs a football, in terms of his run verse

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Speaker 2: So then it just comes back to doing more of

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Speaker 4: And particularly when his team was up against it with

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Speaker 3: More spoken of a few halves.

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Speaker 1: They're battling with the discipline to run the football a

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Speaker 1: little Nathan and Clearing. I can see that in Nathan's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, if you believe it's a two horse race between

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Speaker 4: So it's fifty to fifty because the Raiders have a

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Speaker 2: Have offered a two year deal.

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Speaker 4: Not sure what the money is, but there's this He's

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Speaker 1: From It's a tough one, Coops, because he's been there

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Speaker 4: And they need someone like Fogy to be that, to

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Speaker 1: Knights lost their half back Jack Cogger. They moved Phoenix

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Speaker 3: Attack was way of sort.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of it?

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Speaker 3: I think sometimes coops.

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Speaker 1: I not a lot of teams in this competition moved

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Speaker 1: When when Newcastle moved the ball sideways a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: They haven't got the foot in the door, or even

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Speaker 3: They've got a simpler look. No matter of people. I've

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Speaker 1: Been that have been out of form in their six

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Speaker 4: If it's a slow momentum back foot play the ball

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Speaker 2: Right, But they.

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Speaker 4: Played against the Dogs were kept to zero. They almost

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Speaker 2: They weren't effective in the way they did it.

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Speaker 4: And when you're trying to be effective against a team,

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Speaker 1: The line, because these days there's no excuse for that

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Speaker 1: because players are these days, i think sometimes to the

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Speaker 1: It's like the old days were blokes were just wander

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Speaker 3: To grab and stock piling around.

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Speaker 2: You should be in a position to help.

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Speaker 4: If you're being locked in a position you should be,

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Speaker 4: Goes to the line, you should always have someone in

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Speaker 1: If you're going to push the ball sideways, if that's

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Speaker 1: You've got to do what Melbourne obviously do Coop well,

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Speaker 4: One of the first lessons I learned as a half back,

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Speaker 4: a very very very old wise man once told me,

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Speaker 4: don't run it inside shoulders run it the good part

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Speaker 1: It'll get your runner at the very least a one

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Speaker 3: Coops. Let's talk about mate. Look and.

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Speaker 1: There's been a theme in this podcast almost like centralize, simplify,

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Speaker 1: the reason we say that with the speed of the rucks,

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Speaker 1: and there's enormous benefit in that.

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Speaker 3: Number one.

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Speaker 1: If you can simplify it and your centralize generally as

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Speaker 1: But the other thing coops about playing that really tight

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Speaker 1: And it's a hard discipline to keep that ball centralized

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Speaker 3: The more momentum there was, the straighter they would play

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Speaker 1: At this point this is where North Queensland would oftentimes

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Speaker 3: They just challenged in around the rucks. When they did

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Speaker 3: They were really really good on the weekend. The Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go give Robson and drink Water their leaders,

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Speaker 4: Stuff is really good and they're starting to see that now.

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Speaker 4: I've hit a little bit of form off that poor start.

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Speaker 4: But when they play bad like it's a big question mark.

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Speaker 1: Then is very much their indicator, isn't it If you

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Speaker 3: You back them all the way him.

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Speaker 4: And drink Water as well, because drink Water's got the

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Speaker 1: Tell them about Penrith, everybody's everybody's got their theories.

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Speaker 3: There's a bit going on.

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Speaker 4: There is a bit going on, and defensively, they've got

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Speaker 2: At the moment.

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Speaker 4: But I think Nathan is trying to cover for everything,

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Speaker 4: His touches have gone through the roof, his runs have

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Speaker 3: Let's often of the Johns variety that started last year.

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Speaker 1: In our podcasts, we interviewed Nathan and you got lots.

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Speaker 3: And I said to I was talking to Nathan.

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Speaker 1: I said, Nathan, when I watch you, am I right

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Speaker 1: And he said yes, And he said, Nathan said, for him,

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Going into this game the other night, I thought to myself, right,

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Speaker 3: First thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm expecting Nathan's going to run the ball first two

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Speaker 3: And that I think for me, that that symbolizes.

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Speaker 1: Where Penrith are out at the moment is the fact

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Speaker 4: We've spoken about Cleary, drink Water and Latrell, three completely

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Speaker 4: If you're a threat to run the ball, that opens

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Speaker 2: So there's a there's a lot to be said about

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Speaker 1: I feel for a lot of the young guys who

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Speaker 1: how complex Penrith attack is because you've got blokes jumping

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Speaker 3: The back your head a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So it's all these young guys getting used to that.

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Speaker 3: There's fresh faced.

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Speaker 3: So every single side that they play this.

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Speaker 1: Year are going to be just about at their best,

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Speaker 3: That's that's tough on young blokes.

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Speaker 4: And whether it's that complex system or whatever, it's your

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Speaker 2: Across the past that make that space for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: When Melbourne started rolling yesterday, coops I Melbourne are ten

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Speaker 4: of the spine their forward how balanced they are their

444
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Speaker 4: game style defense Orientaty can attack from anywhere they are

445
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,400
Speaker 4: in absolute pole position and there's some teams that are

446
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Speaker 4: pushing next to them, but they put it all together.

447
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 4: They have ingredients to a premiership right there, and they're

448
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Speaker 4: playing like there after.

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Speaker 3: Something too too. Who impressed me just with that theme

450
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Speaker 3: we're talking about about fast guys with footwork through the middle.

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Speaker 3: The guy who really caused Melbourne.

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Speaker 1: A lot of problems yesterday in the first half in

453
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Speaker 1: a side that was getting was getting belted.

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Speaker 3: It was Aaron Clark.

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Speaker 1: That's shorter, faster, middle forward with footwork. He caused Melbourne

456
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Speaker 1: a lot of problems yesterday.

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Speaker 4: So do you feel like that middle ford who's sort

458
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 4: of bulky can move with let's say a smaller frame

459
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 4: fullback than some guys are doing really well? There's a

460
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Speaker 4: bit of a shift in that trend in the game

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Speaker 4: with out.

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Speaker 1: Of doubt, without a doubt, those smaller blokes zipping around

463
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Speaker 1: the rucks against the bigger middles. I think that's where

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Speaker 1: a lot of the magic's been happening.

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Speaker 2: Because the Dogs have got that.

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Speaker 4: In terms of the middle Fords, kurk Man does it

467
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 4: really well and they've got Kinnor Tracy.

468
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Speaker 2: At the back.

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Speaker 3: Tom Starling but he's doing really well k Weeks.

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Speaker 1: Mabe, it just goes on on these Joe Gray, the smaller,

471
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 1: the smaller fullbacks, the zippy thirteen middles. Yeah, that's that's

472
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Speaker 1: where a lot of stuff's going on.

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Speaker 3: Coops.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree that if you are let's say big

475
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 4: Ford pack and your strength is just like the middle

476
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 4: third consolidation, then play to your strength.

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Speaker 2: Don't try and be something you're not capable of doing.

478
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 4: But unfortunate for other teams, Melbourne Storm have the complete set.

479
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: They can do different styles within the context of the game,

480
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 4: but don't try. For example, the Dogs don't try and

481
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,399
Speaker 4: play a centralized, dominant forward pack game because you just

482
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 4: don't have the powerful forwards to do that. So they're

483
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: playing to their strengths and other teams need to do

484
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: that as well.

485
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Speaker 3: Just wonder finishing.

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Speaker 1: I was just watching this the other day and I thought,

487
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Speaker 1: my god, he reminds me of David Peachy that try

488
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 1: the Will Kennedy's card.

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00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: Well, he's good.

490
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: To one, but the one where he just he zipped

491
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: around the rocks and go Peachy was.

492
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Speaker 3: I had one year with Peach. He was such Coops,

493
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: an amazing.

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Speaker 1: Player, like I've never seen a player be able to

495
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: have the instincts where he would feel a player about

496
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 1: to move into his space and defender like he had

497
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Speaker 1: Like I remember once watching him a training and he

498
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: scoop a ball up and he ran right and he

499
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Speaker 1: would he beat a guy coops like this, Like he

500
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: would sense simultaneously as a guy a defender moved into

501
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: his space, he'd just move around and it was just

502
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: pure instinct and just the nature of the way he

503
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 1: rolled and ran.

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Speaker 3: Kennedy very very similar.

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00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, big to the capture fits in the Sharks. Yeah,

506
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 4: because you know they've been a little bit hot, cold, inconsistent,

507
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 4: but they've gone to Vegas, Townsville, Camber and Perth and

508
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 4: they come out.

509
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: And perform that way. I thought it was solid. It

510
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 2: was really rock soil.

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Speaker 4: That's the type of performance that you can go, oh, like,

512
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: you know, bit tied or I don't really feel it doing.

513
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 4: But they weren't great, but they were good enough for

514
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 4: long parts of that game to get the job done.

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00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 4: Trindleed to Trisis Kennedy with his thing, and sometimes that's

516
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: what you need. You just need to fight through the

517
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 4: tough times and some of your best players will end

518
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: up getting the points for you.

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00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: Coop.

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Speaker 1: This Friday going to be it's more than a game,

521
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: be an event. South Sydney versus Dogs, e's to Friday,

522
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: always a big game. Initially they're expecting they said over

523
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Speaker 1: forty thousand. Last week it went to over fifty three

524
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: early over sixty. Now they're saying could be over seventy

525
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: thousand people at the game.

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Speaker 4: That's epic, mate. When the Dogs f yeah, Dogs have

527
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 4: a party. And two they're coming off a really good performance.

528
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 4: They absolutely suffocated the Knights then the bye, so they're

529
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: cherry ripe like they should be fight up for a

530
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 4: big performance because if the Dogs in the style they

531
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 4: play with their fast moving defense, get up, get back,

532
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,399
Speaker 4: get up, get back, you need to be redlining with energy.

533
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: And then when they attack they like to shift the

534
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 4: ball around. So I reckon that they're going to be

535
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 4: really up for it because undefeated, they've done a lot

536
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 4: of good things, and the Dogs fans they're ready to

537
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: have a party.

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Speaker 1: Great day Friday, Easter, eggs, church, beer, football, So which.

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Speaker 2: One of those aren't you doing? Which one of those

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Speaker 2: aren't you doing?

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Speaker 3: Church? God bless