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Speaker 1: Appod Shape Production. Welcome back to you another episode about

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Speaker 1: my Bad Mum podcast. And we're on Instagram too. At

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Speaker 1: am I a bad Mum. We're trying to get the

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Speaker 1: Facebook back up.

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Speaker 2: And running uns.

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Speaker 3: On my to do list for today is update Facebook

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Speaker 3: and just activate life through Facebook again.

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Speaker 2: Technology is not our strong point. We've been very clear

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Speaker 2: on this. When we're in the zone.

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Speaker 1: We're pretty good at socials, but I feel like this

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Speaker 1: is for all moms. I feel like we need a

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Speaker 1: day to do life admin, to get shit done. Even

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Speaker 1: on the way into work today, right, I caught up

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Speaker 1: and I made an appointment.

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Speaker 2: For my dog to have a dental check.

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Speaker 1: It's that type of shit you just don't do. I

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Speaker 1: like the dog's breath stinks, she's obviously got some sort

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Speaker 1: of rotten we haven't cleaned the teeth in ten years.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we neglecting this poor dog. We just spent

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Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars hats on an operation for the cat

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Speaker 1: so he didn't die, and we don't even really.

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Speaker 2: Like that cat. Imagine if that's it.

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Speaker 3: I just spent you know, two grand on that kid.

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Speaker 3: I don't even really like that kid of mine.

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Speaker 4: Could you imagine that's not even my favorite.

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Speaker 1: A lie abad mum before being the one they hate.

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Speaker 2: No, I am that person.

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Speaker 3: There's always one person within the parenting dynamic that has.

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Speaker 2: To be the bad guy, hold that flag. It's annoying.

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Speaker 1: Like we've spoken about this before about not in every situation,

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Speaker 1: but often Dad's the fun one.

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Speaker 3: I find it a bit of a cop out sometimes

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Speaker 3: that dads get to continually be the role where kids

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Speaker 3: just love dad because Dad is the fun one and

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Speaker 3: dad's like us because dad's funny and.

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Speaker 1: The rules aren't normally as strict and little things like

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Speaker 1: Dad will be the one that goes well just get

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Speaker 1: Macius Bricky on the way to school. I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: the strict one. They take the piss out of me, right,

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Speaker 1: soel I know I get the same thing through that,

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Speaker 1: But this particular situation is unrealistic and I'm being.

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Speaker 2: The realistic person. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, as we know, my girls are obsessed with Billie

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Speaker 1: Eilish all concerts. To be honest, at the.

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Speaker 3: Moment, I was gonna say, I don't know, I was

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Speaker 3: thinking about this when we're talking. Is it just Billy

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Speaker 3: or is it just concerts? I know Billy is the

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Speaker 3: number one but like they seem to be fatting overgoing

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Speaker 3: to concerts. Yeah, so it could be anyone, but Billy is.

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Speaker 1: Billy's the idols favorite. Anything she does, any release, new merch,

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Speaker 1: we have to buy it, Like I have to reduce

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Speaker 1: access to their bank accounts so they don't or Amelia

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Speaker 1: in particular, so she doesn't just buy shit because money

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Speaker 1: burns a hole in her pocket.

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Speaker 2: She gets it, she spends it.

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Speaker 1: They woke up the other morning and she had announced

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Speaker 1: more concert dates. Now these aren't concert dates in Australia. Rage,

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Speaker 1: these are not Brisbane concert dates that they've announced.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh my goodness, she's.

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Speaker 1: Coming back to Brisbane. We can get a ticket for

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Speaker 1: the show. No, No, these are in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. Yeah, I mean that's around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we were looking at not long ago if I'm correct,

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Speaker 3: didn't get those missed down on those now.

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Speaker 1: The problem is, as we know with tickets, is that

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Speaker 1: when they go on sale, you have to be super

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Speaker 1: quick because they sell out for these big artists.

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Speaker 3: Also, San fran you've got a few more people to

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Speaker 3: go up against, not saying Britain and Sydney, Melbourne at

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Speaker 3: like any easier, but your numbers are outnumbered in America

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Speaker 3: even more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now, for anybody with a full time job to go,

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Speaker 1: We're going to go to San Francisco in six months

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Speaker 1: time is a stretch. You need real flight, accommodation, spending money.

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Speaker 2: This is in addition to tickets.

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Speaker 1: Now, my girls seemed to think that they are going

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Speaker 1: to buy the tickets for the concert this week. Now.

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Speaker 1: The problem is is that I'm so wild before. It's

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Speaker 1: that fine line between being realistic going that's absolutely not

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Speaker 1: going to happen yea, and crushing their dreams and being

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Speaker 1: the bad one. This morning I was texting Holly and

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Speaker 1: I was getting messages.

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Speaker 2: You're getting sprayed, like.

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Speaker 1: What the hell have we been saving our money for?

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Speaker 1: You said that we can go for our dreams. Blah

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Speaker 1: to go to London. You said, no, it's school holidays.

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Speaker 1: It's a flight with no stopovers. And I sent a

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Speaker 1: text back and I started off nice and I said, Darling,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be a Debbie Downer, but there

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Speaker 1: is no way we can all go to San Francisco

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Speaker 1: in six months time. It's over six thousand dollars in flights,

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Speaker 1: around fifteen hundred in accommodation. Because you can't just go

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Speaker 1: to San Francisco for two days travel spending money tickets

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Speaker 1: unless we win lotto. We are not going, and you

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Speaker 1: two aren't going by yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not coming.

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Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm buying them. This is what we've

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Speaker 1: been saving for. It's not six thousand dollars. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: go there by ourselves. All of this stuff is coming

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Speaker 1: back at me because I am the bad one. I

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Speaker 1: just want It's a hard no. I ended up going.

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Speaker 1: It's a hard no. Yeah, I'm not going to say

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Speaker 1: it's just go by yourself.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if this is a twin thing, Rachel,

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Speaker 1: whether this is just siblings. Do you ever have moments

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Speaker 1: where your girls are both on side because they both

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Speaker 1: want something, Yeah, yeah, and they both attack you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they come at you, yeah yeah, and then you

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Speaker 3: just give them that spray of like, mate, there's two

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Speaker 3: of you and want to meet, Like, this is unfair.

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Speaker 3: If we're in a fight right now, this is unfair.

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Speaker 3: This is a disadvantage, This is a disadvantage and I've

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Speaker 3: still gonn to whoop the.

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Speaker 2: Asses and it's elder abuse. It's abuse, it's abuse.

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Speaker 3: I one hundred percent I'm with you, like I was

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Speaker 3: saying to you though, Like as this started to Unford,

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Speaker 3: I would always like, apart from the fact that you're

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Speaker 3: their parents, you're the one that is going to be

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Speaker 3: footing their costs for the flights because there's no way

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Speaker 3: they can. It's unrealistic of them to think that they're

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Speaker 3: going to a be able to pay for all of

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Speaker 3: this on their own back. Like if you want me

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Speaker 3: to do some quick maths, how much do they earn

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Speaker 3: Amelia doesn't mind a bit of cash coming in. They like,

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Speaker 3: this is the unrealistic part of it. You know, when

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Speaker 3: you're eighteen, go for God, spend your money however you want,

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Speaker 3: travel whenever you want. But until then, what's going to

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Speaker 3: happen is your passport looks like this, your date of

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Speaker 3: birth is on there, and unless you've got my approval

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Speaker 3: to say that you're flying internationally. I think in her

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Speaker 3: head she's just like we're just popping over down to

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Speaker 3: Sydney for an hour. The no, no, you're not Sam

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Speaker 3: Fran and camping out in San Fran waiting for your

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Speaker 3: tickets like going to be the same as sleeping at

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Speaker 3: Boondle in my car, Like it's just not the same.

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Speaker 1: And they haven't even thrown in the exchange rate for America.

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Speaker 2: Everything's everything, everything right now is double. It's so funny.

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Speaker 3: I love the way that their brains work, and I

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Speaker 3: don't want to be the person also like you, that

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Speaker 2: Dreams have to be achievable. Number one.

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Speaker 3: Dreams have to be somewhat of a stepping stone of

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Speaker 3: understanding realistic components to it. Because this one needs realistic

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Speaker 3: components to it. I am this age. I need this

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Speaker 3: person to trouble with me or their approval like this

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Speaker 3: shit like that that's in this.

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Speaker 2: So as much as you feel really.

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Speaker 3: Bad right now, like I get it, I get it,

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Speaker 3: but I think you're doing the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd stick with it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The other thing is, you know, another concert will come

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Speaker 3: to town and they'll be so excited about that.

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Speaker 1: It's more realistic to get them to buy a lotto ticket.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and.

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Speaker 3: Think about how good to say you bought a ticket

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Speaker 3: to Billie Eilish in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: But how the hell are you going to get there?

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Speaker 2: Because like, let's think about this.

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Speaker 1: But also they're planning out how long they've got until November?

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Speaker 1: We got six months? Well, no, you can't leave flights

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Speaker 1: till the last minute. They give me so much more experence.

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Speaker 3: I know that's right because they think they're going to Sydney.

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Speaker 3: San Franz is not Sydney. Girlfriend. Also, I got a

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Speaker 3: bit of backlash the other day, and it was similar

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Speaker 3: to this right where I've told you before. I make

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Speaker 3: Gracie iron her uniform and she goes, why do you

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Speaker 3: have to be this? Because she was tired, she was angry,

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Speaker 3: she was aggressive. Why can't you just iron my And

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Speaker 3: I looked at her and I was like, because.

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Speaker 2: This is real life, this is real life. Do your

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Speaker 2: own to walk away from that, KD. I was like,

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Speaker 3: But the other day and another argument off the back

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Speaker 2: Got angry at me about I just want you to

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Speaker 3: I looked at her, I said, I know, I said,

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Speaker 3: and I really want to be just your friend. I

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Speaker 3: this lifetime. I'm your mother, so then therefore I need

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Speaker 3: to be your mother. And I hope at the end

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Speaker 3: of it week can have an amazing friendship because you'll

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Speaker 3: be a wonderful human being. I said, but right now,

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Speaker 3: if I don't be true to this part of being

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Speaker 3: your mother, it's not going to work. Yep, you won't

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Speaker 3: want to be friends with me because you'll question why

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Speaker 3: I didn't be a mother to you when you were

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Speaker 2: But that will come later, yeah forty Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was like, that'll come later. But I got that,

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Speaker 3: why are we worry you have to be so strict?

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Speaker 3: I was confused, Katie, You're in the same ball with this.

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Speaker 3: The girls just want you.

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Speaker 1: To yeah, and they don't want the discipline. However, I

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Speaker 1: have also noticed that if there are no boundaries, that's

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Speaker 1: not comfortable for them either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Holly had a moment of saying to me, there

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Speaker 1: want to go, and Amelia really did want to go,

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Speaker 1: and Holly didn't want to go, and Holly turned around

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Speaker 1: to me and said, why are you even letting us

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Speaker 1: go anywhere there's alcohol?

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: There's no parents like reeled off. All this stuff about

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Speaker 1: why I shouldn't This is just purely.

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Speaker 2: Because she didn't want to go. You need it.

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't be allowing her to go because it's inappropriate

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Speaker 1: and I'm a bad parent for letting her go. I

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Speaker 1: was like, oh, interesting, Okay, let's tighten up this ship,

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Speaker 1: shall we.

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Speaker 2: Let's get a little bit stricter.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday, Holly, can you put the dishwasher on?

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Speaker 2: Don't know how? Excuse me. Okay, let's have a.

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Speaker 1: Think about how we're going to be treating you from

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Speaker 1: now on where you want to be treated like an

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Speaker 1: adult and you want.

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Speaker 3: To be yeah, like now when you want to be

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Speaker 3: going to Billie Eilish in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: But you can't dishwasher. I think it's a hard I

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Speaker 2: think that in the show is I know, mhm