WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 1 October 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:05.039 Welcome to the Late Debate. 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:09.080 Good evening and welcome to the program. 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.800 I'm Caleb Bond with Liz Storer and filling in for 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:16.160 James McPherson is Kel richards Well. The former British Prime 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.119 Minister Boris Johnson has made a shocking claim about the 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:21.239 death of the Queen. Will tell you what it is 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.560 later in the show. Stephen Miles, Premier of Queensland, has 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.240 backed the political trend and said he would do a 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:30.400 deal with the Greens if it comes to minority government. 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:33.880 And a father to be has landed himself a day 0:00:34.040 --> 0:00:38.080 in court after revealing the gender of his coming child. 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.200 We'll tell you why later. 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:44.559 Now we are continually told renewable energy is the cheapest 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.839 form of energy available, and you, like me, look at 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:50.640 your power bill every month and know that that is 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.760 absolutely not the case. It costs a lot of money 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.959 to get these things over from China, primarily to then 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.959 put them up on pieces of land where people generally 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.600 don't want them. But what happens when twenty twenty five 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:08.400 years down the line you have to get rid of them? 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:11.560 How much does it cost? Well, you now have people 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:14.760 and blow and behold this reporting has come ya the ABC. 0:01:15.080 --> 0:01:17.880 Yes, I'm just as shocked as you are. But you 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:19.240 now have people. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.520 Saying that, look, we could put wind turbines up on 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:26.080 our properties and they stand to gain about seven hundred 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:30.240 and fifty thousand dollars in profit per turbine over the 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:32.480 twenty five year lifespan. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.280 But what happens when we have to get rid of it? 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:40.640 Because the Australian Energy Infrastructure Commissioner now estimates that decommissioning 0:01:40.720 --> 0:01:46.399 a single wind turbine costs six hundred thousand dollars. 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:48.120 And so if you agree to have one. 0:01:47.960 --> 0:01:51.320 Of these wind turbines, or presumably many of these wind 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.400 turbines on your property, you've got a hope that the 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:56.800 company that pays to put them up in the first 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.600 place is still going to be around in twenty five 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.680 years time so they can pay to take it down. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.720 Otherwise you're going to be left up the creek. So 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.280 landowners are saying, well, we need the government to step 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.919 in here if we are possibly going to allow these 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.200 things to be built, because hell, we don't want to 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:15.720 be left with a six hundred thousand dollar bill for 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.200 every single wind turbine that we allow to be put up. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.400 But presumably all of this then if it's going to 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:24.840 be paid for by the government or the power companies, has. 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:27.520 To be factored into what you pay. 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:29.639 So, Liz, not only do we pay for the thing 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.840 to be put up in the first place, which is 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:34.600 hideously expensive, now we've got to pay for the thing 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:38.720 to be decommissioned six hundred thousand dollars per pop. Now, 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:41.040 I don't know exactly how many turbines there are across 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:41.960 the entire country. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:42.400 I know in. 0:02:42.400 --> 0:02:46.600 Victoria there's about two thousand, five hundred. I mean multiply 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:49.119 that by six hundred thousand dollars a pop for every 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.239 single one of them. We are talking about huge money 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:54.480 here for the cheapest energy in the world. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:58.240 Apparently, and quite rightly, people who are being asked to 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.320 put these up on their land saying well, hang on 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:05.760 a minute, you don't have a clear decommissioning process here. Now, 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.880 according to the math that the Australian Energy Infrastructure Commissioner 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.600 has put out there, saying well, we'll give you if 0:03:12.639 --> 0:03:16.000 you're getting seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars per wind 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:20.200 turbine on your property, and you may have to fit 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.480 the bill for the six hundred thousand to decommission it, 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:27.520 you'd still be making one hundred and fifty thousand per turbi, and. 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.720 That's seven hundred and fifty k over twenty five years. 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:34.400 Once you've accounted for inflation. Surely you're six hundred grands 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:35.320 out the wink well. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.160 Who knows what you'd actually end up fitting the bill for. 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:40.640 Quite rightly the good point, good point. 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.839 But we already have ninety operating wind farms in Australia, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.240 three hundred in total if the summer being built, some 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:52.320 are planned, they are underway, and we don't yet have 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:55.320 a clear decommissioning process. 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:58.600 How on earth is this supposed to happen? 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.480 And we know from last year you may remember this 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:05.360 when Nick Cada from Menzies Research Center took himself up 0:04:05.400 --> 0:04:10.240 to far North Queensland and discovered we already have wind 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:15.520 turbine graveyards in our own country. Check this out and 0:04:15.560 --> 0:04:18.840 tell me how renewable you think this looks. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:26.200 Just dumped here here they are. This is renewable energy. 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:32.240 By the way, remember that word renewable. There's nothing much 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:36.840 renewable about these things. These are old turbine blades, quite 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.880 short ones actually, I mean they look big but they're 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:44.040 some of the early twenty meters I think, and now. 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:44.480 They've worn out. 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:46.000 You can see you look at the quality of it, 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.440 there's not much life left. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:48.520 In that. 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:50.760 Now. 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.560 Those ones discovered last July had been lying there for 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.919 eight years already, and it bears noting that the ones 0:04:58.920 --> 0:05:00.800 we're now building are four to. 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.000 Five times bigger than that. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.440 So what kind of graveyards are we going to be 0:05:06.600 --> 0:05:10.120 having twenty five to thirty years from now and then 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:12.720 what's the cost of Obviously we won't be able to 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:14.640 just ditch them without replacing them. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.120 By then we will be very reliant on them. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.200 Indeed, I just can't believe the short sightedness of this government. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:25.440 The blades now are the length of four buses. The 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:28.640 problem is the people living in Teels electorates are now 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:32.040 near them, so they've got no idea how big they are. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.320 And they remember as kids going out to the bush 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:38.600 and seeing those cute little southern cross wind mills, wind 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.120 mills that pumped up bore water for the cattle, and 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:42.240 that's they're nice. 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:43.200 No they're not. 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.000 They're an average of four hundred and fifty feet high. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:50.080 They're huge. They're like you know, multi story buildings. As 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.000 I say, one blade fills the back of an entire 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.760 semi trailer, so they're to get rid of it. You've 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.640 got concrete and in the base, you've got steel in 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:02.000 the town and those big blades are made out of 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.600 fiberglass and bals of wood. 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:05.760 And this is not the ball. 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.880 The fiberglass is not particularly degradable or reusable stuff. 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:10.920 And where are you. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:14.000 Going to put that graveyard that nixaw was just lying 0:06:14.040 --> 0:06:14.679 on the ground. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:15.920 There's going to have. 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:18.680 To be a burial process for these things so they 0:06:18.720 --> 0:06:20.400 don't have to be put into some sort of massive 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.080 transport delivered out to the center of Australia or somewhere 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.839 and have a huge pitch together. Plus, don't forget, we've 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:32.240 also known to dispose of the solar panels. Because the 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.000 solar panels contain toxic waste material. They need to be 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.080 very deep enough to be safe. The figures I looked 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.200 at was minimum of say thirty dollars each to get 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:44.800 rid of a solar panel, even a small one, and 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:48.800 there will be millions of thirty dollars. They were saying, 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:50.760 if you don't transport it, they can they can get 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:52.680 rid of it for thirty dollars. Mind you, I went 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:58.080 to an environmentalist website, so it might have been miss cheap, and. 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.400 We are immediately I am I gift, it's in your blood. 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.320 But the point is there are millions of them, and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:07.640 they're going to have to be buried somewhere where they'll 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.000 be safe because they become toxic waste material. And you 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.720 talked about the setup cost. After we've buried them and 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.480 got rid of at the cost of six hundred thousand dollars. 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.440 Each, we then have to spend the money to build 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:20.280 them again back out. 0:07:20.320 --> 0:07:23.600 So the construction costs going on now happen every twenty years. 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:25.960 But I love that we complain, not we I mean, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.360 we obviously don't hear, but oh, we could not possibly 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:33.640 have nuclear waste anywhere in this country because it's so dangerous, 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.400 it's awful, it's bad for the environment. Yet in the 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.960 name of the environment, we put up the wind turbines 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.160 and the solar panels and whatever that are equally as 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.120 bad by the time you've decommissioned them, full of heavy 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.640 metals and all sorts of stuff that buggers up the land. 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.440 But there's no problem with that. I want to know 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:54.080 what the land looks like after they've decommissioned these wind turbines. 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:55.679 I mean, if you've said you can have my pad 0:07:55.680 --> 0:07:57.520 it to put up all these wind turbines, it's going 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:59.000 to look like a minefield by the time. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:02.160 Well, I imagine that they just rebuild on the same land, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.320 because it makes sense. Otherwise, then you'd have to go 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.360 through the whole process again. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:09.280 To build a new wind farm or solar farm. 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.480 I think we should change the language. They're not farms. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:18.280 They produce nothing that we can actually buy in the supermarket. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:20.400 They should be called wind factories. 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:25.240 These are the mills of Satanis, the dark mills. 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:29.040 They're wind factories. 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:33.200 They're not farst or bird choppers eyes. 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.040 And they also burst into flames. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.280 Exactly know, because Labor told us last year, people crunch 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:43.360 the numbers. They've got to erect a wind turbine every 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:47.880 single day, at least one until twenty thirty in order 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:48.960 to reach their goals. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:50.200 And as for solar. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.760 Panels, twenty two thousand a day. 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.120 We need new solar panels in order to reach these 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.600 twenty thirty goals that everyone has said for very good reason, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.520 is entirely impractical. You're never going to get there, and 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:06.320 in fact, we very much hope that you don't. To 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:09.640 the US now where the Carmala campaign and the Trump 0:09:09.720 --> 0:09:15.520 campaign are facing off regarding every single little detail, poking 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:19.400 holes in each other's even Twitter posts. Now we know 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:23.360 that the US has been hit by Hurricane Helene recently. 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:27.199 One hundred and twenty people have lost their lives. Countless 0:09:27.240 --> 0:09:31.800 others are unaccounted for due to the terrible communications. They 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:34.960 literally just don't have range on their phone out there 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:38.560 at the moment. So the government is getting absolutely whacked 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.319 for this, and Kamala is doing her best to make 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:45.440 sure everyone knows they're at the helm, it's all under control. 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:48.640 And to that end, she shared a picture of herself 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.559 and what appears to be Air Force too. She captioned 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:56.400 this saying, our administration will continue to stay in constant 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.560 contact with state and local officials to ensure community have 0:10:00.679 --> 0:10:05.600 the support and resources they need. But you'll notice she's 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:11.160 got the phone unplugged on the desk while having an 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:16.080 ear piece in So Donald J. Trump jumped straight on 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:20.520 Twitter and replied with this epithet. He said, another fake 0:10:20.640 --> 0:10:24.480 and stage photo from someone who has no clue what 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:25.360 she is doing. 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.480 You have to plug the cord. 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.240 Into the phone for it to work. 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:34.600 Biden and Harris abandoned Americans in Afghanistan. They have sacrificed 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:37.680 Americans to an open border, and now they have left 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:43.000 Americans to drown in North Carolina, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, and 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:47.720 elsewhere in the South. Under this administration, Americans always come 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:53.080 last because we have leaders who have no idea how 0:10:53.120 --> 0:10:58.080 to lead now. Biden, it bears mentioning was he stayed 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:01.440 in Delaware the entire time, and while this hurricane was 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:05.280 ravaging the States and copped a lot of heat for it, 0:11:05.400 --> 0:11:10.240 he did return to Washington to give this press address 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:14.440 and again convince convince the country that not on He's 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.880 still at the Helm and they're taking care of all 0:11:16.880 --> 0:11:17.160 of this. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.720 There's mat reports of over one hundred dead and consequence 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:25.000 of the storm, and there are reports of up six 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:28.040 hundred people on account for because they can't be contacted, 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:31.720 God willing, they're alive, but there's no way to contact 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.960 them again because of the lack of cell phone coverage. 0:11:34.920 --> 0:11:38.719 I've directed my team to provide every available resource as 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.080 fast as possible to your communities. 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:46.040 Every available recess except of course, the communications that people 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.080 need on the ground to be able to contact each other. 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.200 He was then asked as he left, why weren't you 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:57.320 guys in Washington? Where were you guys while this hurricane 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:02.880 was raging, leaving a trail of destructions to retaliate. 0:12:03.240 --> 0:12:04.560 I'm a hurricane is for president. 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.640 Why weren't she and Vice President Harris Sar in Washington 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.720 commanding this this weekend? 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:12.040 I was committed, and I was on the phone for 0:12:12.080 --> 0:12:15.280 at least two hours yesterday and the day before as well. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:18.800 I command. It's called a telephone. It's all my security. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.199 It's a nonmordant populacy. 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:26.559 I was delegating from Delaware. Why couldn't you. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.720 Tell us taking care of business from my beach house. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:36.640 Thank goodness, somebody is acting president, even if he isn't yet. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:41.800 Here's Trump on the ground in Georgia doing the actual 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.880 work of a president in such a trauma state. 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:48.480 And to the families and loved ones of those who 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.319 have perished, with mourn alongside of you, and we grieve 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:55.920 every single life so tragically lost. I'd like to now 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.920 ask for a moment of silence and prayer, if you would, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.560 for those who have died. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:06.560 Thank you, He's showing them up every chance, and with 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.840 this administration, it's not hard well. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.840 I mean I was going to say it's unbelievable. It's 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:16.280 entirely believable. Joe Biden has just totally checked out at 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:19.360 the president. Oh yeah, since it was taken off in 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.800 the candidacy, was taken off him. So there he is 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.440 in the middle of a natural disaster at home in Delaware, 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:26.040 sitting on. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:26.160 The b. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.400 Following the pattern of working from home in Austrica. But 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.040 I've got to say, what Biden and Harris have done 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.160 between them is they make Trump look really presidential. I 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:42.480 mean he looked presidential. In behind him was Franklin Graham, 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.600 the son of Billy Graham, who comes in on these 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.960 situation because they have a rescue team and they come 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:49.320 in and they help people in need. This was a 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.000 man doing exactly what presidents do. The only person doing 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:55.880 it is the only one looking like a president. Can 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.319 we go back for a moment to that still of 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:01.680 Kamala Harris on the plane. Can you find that that still? 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.320 Put that up on the screen, because there's something else 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:05.120 you need to notice. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:07.480 Ye have a look. 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:11.960 Not only is the phone not connected, it's all blank paper. 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:14.520 That tells what you need to know. 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:18.920 Well, I reckon that ear piece is actually plugged in. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.320 It's just plugged into the people who are telling her 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.480 what to say while she's on the phone. She's got 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.520 her master's in area telling you what to do. Every 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:30.040 time something like this happens, and they seem to happen 0:14:30.080 --> 0:14:33.160 with alarming regularity, whether it be in American politics or 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:37.640 Australian politics. Of all the people who are employed particularly, 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.120 I mean, forget about how many advisors whatever you have 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:44.080 in an Australian Prime minister's office. The number of advisors 0:14:44.200 --> 0:14:48.720 specifically working on media who sit in the President's office 0:14:48.800 --> 0:14:53.360 and the Vice president's office is enormous. How does no 0:14:53.400 --> 0:14:56.280 one look at that photo and go, oh, hang on 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:57.600 a minute, you've got a problem. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.560 It looks like tell you why. 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:03.480 The answer is found in the answer to this question, Gayla, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.640 what's the difference between Kamala Harrison artificial intelligence? 0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.560 Well, she's only artificial. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:09.960 I was going to. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:13.320 Say, artificial intelligence actually has some intelligence. I mean, Trump 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:15.080 might have had a point the other day when he 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:18.360 suggested that she's not entirely all up there when it 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:19.200 comes to these sorts of. 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:23.440 Things that all right, but it's just awful to think. 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:24.600 And she has said. 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:27.760 Camala said, I can't go down to Georgia right now 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:30.640 because it would be a distraction and I would get 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.760 in the way of the work being done on the 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:39.360 ground by the emergency. She cares, I seriously, it's not 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.920 like I was going to say, it's quite comparable. And 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:46.280 remember when Scott Morrison was over in Hawaii during bush 0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:49.600 fires here in this country, going back four odd years ago. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:51.400 Now will Joe Biden there? 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.360 He is holidaying in Delaware, back home on the beach, 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.880 while natural disasters are unravaging and unraveling, and all he 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.320 can say is, you know what a phone is. I've 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.520 got the phone that we're going while we're talking about 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:07.320 US politics. Of course, tomorrow will be the vice presidential 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.040 debate between JD. 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.360 Vance and Tim Waltz. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.880 You can watch it right here on Sky News from 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:17.280 eleven am Australian Eastern daylight time. And I think, kel 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:20.680 this is going to be a really important debate, more 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:25.240 important than the debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris, 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.680 because that just turned out to be a vanity project, 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:31.440 basically for Kamala to say, well, here here, I actually am. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:34.880 But you know, Trump is staring down the barrel of 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:38.200 being eighty and so there is of course the possibility, 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.000 much like Biden, that he could carget while he's. 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:42.840 In office, and in that case JD. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:46.880 Vance could potentially be the next president of the United States. 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.880 And so he has the opportunity tomorrow to say, well, 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:54.040 I am the guy not only who's got a hand 0:16:54.080 --> 0:16:56.760 on Trump's shoulder to keep him in line, if that's 0:16:56.800 --> 0:17:00.520 what you're worried about, but I am a potential future president. 0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.400 I suspect he will wipe the floor with Tim Watz 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.359 because he is a great orator and a good debate 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:06.919 and he's. 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:07.760 Been preparing well. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:11.960 The way he's been preparing is using something called murder boards. 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.480 Have you heard the expression murder boards? 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.840 I hadn't until today. It sounds a bit concerning. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:17.160 Well. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:19.720 It's where a panel of people sit up in front 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.119 of him and ask him the hardest questions they can 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.640 think of, and really grill him and throw things at him. 0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:27.640 Murder board is an expression born in the American Army. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:31.680 Goes back to nineteen forty four, and originally a murder 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:35.720 board was any promotions board or anything like that. Because 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.760 the soldiers hated them and they regarded them as Absolutely 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:40.120 you've got. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:41.960 A promotion because the other boat got popped off. 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.680 But anyway, but it's a lovely expression. We've now learned, 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.480 know it's the wordsmith in me. We've learned a new expression. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.400 Murder board. I think it's wonderful. 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.440 But what it means is he's actually working hard at 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:54.959 being prepared and doing the really tough stuff. 0:17:55.080 --> 0:17:56.440 He's got a very good mind. 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:59.080 He needs to convince them that at forty he would 0:17:59.119 --> 0:18:01.639 be the youngest president of the United States, even younger 0:18:01.640 --> 0:18:02.119 than John F. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:02.560 Kennedy. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.880 So he needs to persuade them. I've got the smarts 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.000 to be able to do this. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.800 What do you expect will see tomorrow, Liz Befo. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:12.000 It will be a blood bath. 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.359 It ought to be a bloodbath. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.680 But Tim Waltz, I mean, you know, we've seen her 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.560 do that interview with Kamala Harris where he essentially held 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.679 her hand his stick. 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:25.160 Seems to be the whole dad thing. You know. I'm 0:18:25.200 --> 0:18:27.439 just a knock about sort of lad. I don't know 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:28.600 that that's going to play well in it. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.680 No, especially not up against JD. Vance, because like you say, 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.080 he is a great orator. He's very well spoken and 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.800 he's no stranger to debates. So this is I genuinely 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:44.840 think we'll see JD. Vans eat Tim Waltz alive because 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.000 Tim Waltz is like this bumbling dad like figure and JD. 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:52.160 Vance has been a politician for a long time now 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:56.920 and he knows his stuff. And also it's very poor 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.240 timing for Waltz because most and you won't hear any 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:05.760 questions about this tomorrow. I don't believe he's had some 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.879 concerns raised by an oversight committee regarding his ties to 0:19:10.080 --> 0:19:12.880 the Chinese Communist Party, so. 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:14.520 Very bad timing. 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:19.520 Whistleblower allegations against him have tied him to the CCP, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.000 the oversight the House Oversight Committee has subpoened the Department 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:29.920 of Homeland Security after an internal employee group chat raised 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:33.800 quote serious concerns, So they're digging into that. It's making 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:38.520 headlines in the US again. There'll be softball questions tomorrow 0:19:38.640 --> 0:19:41.479 night at the debate because CBS is moderating it. 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:42.720 So it's Fox, isn't it. 0:19:42.760 --> 0:19:45.000 I think it's on Fox, so it should actually be 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:46.640 half a decent gun. 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:50.480 It is CBS, and can I say all that stuff 0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:53.440 about Wolves. It could be a distraction. I think Vance 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:54.560 has got to be careful about this. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:54.840 There. 0:19:55.720 --> 0:19:57.639 Wolves has told a whole lot of lies about his 0:19:57.720 --> 0:20:01.280 military service, but the rank he achieved Williams in combat, 0:20:01.320 --> 0:20:04.119 a whole lot of things like that, And the temptation 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:07.000 would be to go at Walsh and nail him on 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.720 all these lives. I think Vance has got to be 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.879 there nailing Harris. She's the presidential candidate. He's got to 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.480 keep drilling Waltz about how this woman who is clearly 0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.440 incompetent and all she can do is giggle nicely. However, 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.480 how she could ever be the leader of the free 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:25.119 world and the commander in chief. 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.960 That's what he's got to push, the Harris line. 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:29.760 I think. I'm not sure how I came to think 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.600 it was on Fox. It must have been wishful thinking. 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.359 The Harris's campaign would never allow sure moderating. 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.000 Wouldn't that be great to actually see them face They wouldn't. 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.360 Friendly's just so balling their way through the entire thing 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:50.159 and causing Americans to your nationwide, no doubt to the 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.679