Speaker 1: This is the US Report with James Moroar.
Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the program. Here's what's coming
Speaker 2: up tonight. We're lifting the lid on the billion dollar
Speaker 2: Somali welfare scam that's led Trump to ban Third World migrants.
Speaker 2: John Heindereker joins me from Minnesota to explain. Also tonight,
Speaker 2: Democrats go all in on insurrection. Look who's disregarding federal
Speaker 2: law enforcement now and celebrity hypocrisy. You wouldn't read about it,
Speaker 2: but you'll hear about it. Guess who's moving back to
Speaker 2: the US after storming off to Britain to protest Trump.
Speaker 2: But first, can we have a quick word about the
Speaker 2: incredible selective outrage over Defense Secretary Pete Haiksath and claims
Speaker 2: that he ordered some sort of illegal double tap strike
Speaker 2: on a boatload of alleged Venezuelan drug runners that somehow
Speaker 2: turned into the World War crime since Melie, you know
Speaker 2: the claim that he ordered the military to go back
Speaker 2: and finish off survivors of a hit on a smuggler's
Speaker 2: boat who had survived an initial missile strike by the
Speaker 2: Pentagon as part of the Trump administration's effort to disrupt
Speaker 2: drug cartels. Well, let me tell you the selective anger
Speaker 2: that has outraged out of all of this. Well, it's
Speaker 2: not surprising because it is obviously just part of feeding
Speaker 2: this week's outrage of the week. You know, last week
Speaker 2: they thought the Epstein files dropped was going to torpedo
Speaker 2: the Trump presidency. This week they're hoping drug boats strikes
Speaker 2: sink at least the defense career of Pete Hegseth, whom
Speaker 2: Democrats have detested from the moment his name was first
Speaker 2: floated for the position. And as far as this sudden
Speaker 2: retiscence about Americans in combat or when targeting enemies, Reeler imagined,
Speaker 2: where was the outrage which Obama was the drone striker
Speaker 2: in chief, ordering more than five hundred drone attacks during
Speaker 2: his presidency, including strikes that killed American citizens without trial,
Speaker 2: But hey, you know that was the war on terror
Speaker 2: in all that, or where was the outrage from the
Speaker 2: left to time Joe Biden blew up ten Afghan civilians
Speaker 2: because his botched withdrawal from Afghanistan was going so poorly.
Speaker 2: I think at that point Democrats were still claiming even
Speaker 2: that Joe Biden had full control of his faculties and
Speaker 2: that's before we get into other incidents, say the infamous
Speaker 2: Highway of Death during the First Gulf War. Now you
Speaker 2: get my point here. War is hell, and so too
Speaker 2: is trying to maintain a narrative if your goal isn't
Speaker 2: so much to advance peace or maintain adherence to the
Speaker 2: rules of war and civilization as your goal is to
Speaker 2: play politics with national security. Now, what I have found
Speaker 2: so interesting about this story and the outrage about Pete
Speaker 2: heik Seth allegedly ordering this double tap strike is that
Speaker 2: even media outlets that normally would run this story absolutely
Speaker 2: into the ground and have us all wondering if beating
Speaker 2: a dead horse was a violation of the Geneva Conventions,
Speaker 2: even some of them have started to have second thoughts. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't know, could it be the Trump's ponchamp for
Speaker 2: suing the pants off media outlets that play fast and
Speaker 2: loose with the truth has started to pay dividends after
Speaker 2: the Washington Post story claimed that Pete heg Seth was
Speaker 2: going to what has given kill orders in the situation
Speaker 2: room like some sort of overcaffeinated twelve year old playing
Speaker 2: call of duty. Well, guess what The New York Times, Yes,
Speaker 2: I know. The New York Times came out with this
Speaker 2: little not so fast been reporting. They found that no,
Speaker 2: hag Seth did not order that second strike that has
Speaker 2: been the subject of so much controversy, rather than telling
Speaker 2: the military to hit him again. The Times writes, quote,
Speaker 2: the officials clarified the sequence of events amid the political
Speaker 2: and legal upward that has followed a report in The
Speaker 2: Washington Post last week. It said that Admiral Bradley ordered
Speaker 2: the second strike to fulfill a directive by mister Hegseath
Speaker 2: to kill everyone unquote. And then there was this. The
Speaker 2: two officials also said mister Hegthath made no oral directive
Speaker 2: at the meeting that went beyond the written order. The
Speaker 2: Post article did not provide context on when mister Hegsath
Speaker 2: gave what its sources described as a spoken order to
Speaker 2: kill everyone. Quite amazing there to see one of these
Speaker 2: papers calling out the other by name. Meanwhile, academics are
Speaker 2: now shredding the idea that heg Seth ordered some sort
Speaker 2: of war crime, with one Cornell professor calling the legal
Speaker 2: analysis behind the claim dangerous. And then there was this,
Speaker 2: the Kudi grad of this so called scandal. ABC News, Yes,
Speaker 2: the American ABC sank the story like it was well
Speaker 2: a Venezuelan speedboat full of uncut cocaine.
Speaker 3: Tonight new information. According to a source familiar with the incident,
Speaker 3: the two survivors climbed back onto the boat after the
Speaker 3: initial strike. They were believed to be potentially in communication
Speaker 3: with others and salvaging some of the drugs. Because of that,
Speaker 3: it was determined they were still in the fight and
Speaker 3: valid targets, and JAG officer was also giving legal advice.
Speaker 2: Oh so, I guess that's the heg Seth outrage done for?
Speaker 2: Or is it? You?
Speaker 4: See?
Speaker 2: Heg Seth is right now enemy number one of the
Speaker 2: deep state left that is trying to take down the
Speaker 2: Trump administration. Now, if you were watching last week, you
Speaker 2: remember a video I showed you with Democrat politicians and
Speaker 2: former intelligence officers telling the military, the US military to
Speaker 2: refuse illegal orders like this.
Speaker 4: Our laws are clear, you can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 5: You can refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 6: You must refuse illegal orders.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, that video was as we've discussed, rather shall
Speaker 2: we say sedition adjacent, and the bold fellow in that
Speaker 2: video was none other than Mark Kelly, a sitting US
Speaker 2: senator and former Navy officer whom Pete Hegseth has threatened
Speaker 2: to court martial for encouraging soldiers to break the chain
Speaker 2: of command. Now you see what the fight is about.
Speaker 2: This is why they see Hegseth as needing to be stopped,
Speaker 2: and Kelly is leading the charge to undermine Hegseth and
Speaker 2: get him replaced, to get himself out of trouble. Here's
Speaker 2: Kelly earlier.
Speaker 4: He runs around on a stage talking about lethality and
Speaker 4: warrior ethos and killing people. We have the most competent,
Speaker 4: capable military this planet has ever seen by far. That's
Speaker 4: not the message that needs to come from the Secretary
Speaker 4: of Defense.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry what lethality is not a good thing for
Speaker 2: a secretary of war. And that's right they renamed the
Speaker 2: department to talk about I'm sorry. This is the Pentagon
Speaker 2: he's running, not the NYU School of Social Work. The
Speaker 2: more you look at this, though, it becomes more and
Speaker 2: more clear that the problem isn't that haig Seth has
Speaker 2: been doing his job poorly, but in fact, that he
Speaker 2: is doing it too well. Pete hagg Seth has become
Speaker 2: a lightning rod, not because he's blown up drug votes
Speaker 2: but because he is threatening to blow up the slow
Speaker 2: motion campaign to undermine the Trump administration that now sees
Speaker 2: the president's enemies who claim to be the great defenders
Speaker 2: of the Constitution, urging soldiers to disobey orders to undermine
Speaker 2: the commander in chief. To borrow an old saying from
Speaker 2: the Vietnam War, they're trying to destroy democracy in order
Speaker 2: to save it. Well, as far as I'm concerned, if
Speaker 2: it's between a guy who wants to kill the enemy
Speaker 2: and a guy who wants to give them hugs, I
Speaker 2: know who I want as my Secretary of War. Save
Speaker 2: the outrage for something that matters.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is for White House Chief of Staff
Speaker 2: and senior adviser of Bondai Partners. You know him well,
Speaker 2: Mick Mulvaaney, Mick, thanks so much for joining me on
Speaker 2: the program tonight here, great to have you with us.
Speaker 2: Want to start off by talking about this ongoing controversy
Speaker 2: that's been generating around Secretary of Defense Pete Hagsith. Now,
Speaker 2: I've been really fascinated by the way the media started
Speaker 2: out trying to take him down. But now we're seeing
Speaker 2: a bit of blue on blue violence here with the
Speaker 2: New York Times correcting the Washington Post reporting on this
Speaker 2: supposed double tap strike that Pete hegsas supposedly ordered against
Speaker 2: this Venezuelan drug boat.
Speaker 6: James, it's great to see him. First, Let's start by
Speaker 6: what a great looking new set. That looks fantastic. So yeah,
Speaker 6: look back here in the States right now. How often
Speaker 6: have you and I talked about this? It's so hard
Speaker 6: to know what to believe. So much of the press
Speaker 6: is so committed to just saying bad things about Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: You sort of have to wait three or four days
Speaker 6: to see what other stories come out. And when the
Speaker 6: New York Times and the Washington Post are fighting, then
Speaker 6: goodness gracious, who knows what's going on? So look, there
Speaker 6: was an important hearing on the Hill today. In fact,
Speaker 6: I think it may be going on while you and
Speaker 6: I are speaking, where one of the generals involved was
Speaker 6: going to testify to the Senate Forimulations Committee. So maybe
Speaker 6: we actually will find the facts, but I don't think
Speaker 6: you're going to find them much in the New York Times,
Speaker 6: the Washington Post.
Speaker 2: And Nick tell me this too. How much of this
Speaker 2: has to do with the fact that Pete Teksath has
Speaker 2: been making such a big deal about Mark Kelly, Senator
Speaker 2: Mark Kelly, the former Navy officer, and his joining the
Speaker 2: call for people in the military to disregard orders that
Speaker 2: they consider illegal, essentially breaking the civilian chain of command.
Speaker 2: He's threatened to prosecute Mark Kelly. How much of this
Speaker 2: is basically a push pull between these two sort of
Speaker 2: sides of politics here using this issue of the Venezuelan
Speaker 2: drug boat as a pretext.
Speaker 6: James, if you're asking me if there might be a
Speaker 6: little spite aimed at Pete Hesith by the liberal press,
Speaker 6: I mean, we all know the answer to that question.
Speaker 6: And it really is sad because, as you and I
Speaker 6: both know, we want to know what happened. We want
Speaker 6: to know what happened on these drug but we want
Speaker 6: to know what happened all the time. We want this
Speaker 6: transparency in government. But you're not going to get it
Speaker 6: when you just listen to the New York Times and
Speaker 6: or the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: The Post has been a little bit better recently, but
Speaker 1: not much so. Yeah, there's a good deal of Trump
Speaker 1: arrangement syndrome here.
Speaker 6: I'm as concerned about the following international law when it
Speaker 6: comes to the drug boats as anybody else, and I
Speaker 6: want to know exactly what happened, and if something went wrong,
Speaker 6: I'd be willing to talk about that.
Speaker 1: But right now, like so many people, I throw my
Speaker 1: hands up.
Speaker 6: And say, the bias is just so heavy it's hard
Speaker 6: to know who to believe.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, Nick, this is the thing
Speaker 2: that I think a lot of my viewers here in
Speaker 2: Australia are wondering, why is Venezuela suddenly cropping up so
Speaker 2: heavily on the President's agenda here? I mean he was
Speaker 2: speaking about starting land strikes against Venezuela. Have listened to this.
Speaker 7: The drugs coming in through the sea are down ninety
Speaker 7: one percent. I'm surprised as nine percent. Who's doing the
Speaker 7: nine percent? But it's down ninety one and we're going
Speaker 7: to start very soon on land. And I'm sure you're
Speaker 7: thrilled to hear that now.
Speaker 2: I mean Venezuela, Yes, it's an annoyance. Maduro the dictator
Speaker 2: is a bad guy and anti American, But why hash
Speaker 2: Isuela taken his fancy? I feel like there's something more
Speaker 2: than just drugs going on here.
Speaker 6: James, It's an excellent question, and that the short answer
Speaker 6: is I don't know, because here's what I do know.
Speaker 6: I was in the White House in twenty nineteen when
Speaker 6: John Bolton was, you know, practically begging Donald Trump to
Speaker 6: invade Venezuela on a daily basis, and Trump said no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: because it's just not what he does. But here we
Speaker 6: are today now threatening you know, attacks on the Venezuelan homeland.
Speaker 6: And Maduro was there in twenty nineteen. The drugs were
Speaker 6: there in twenty nineteen. So if your question is what's changed,
Speaker 6: I guess Bolton is out, but Marco Rubio is in.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's one explanation.
Speaker 6: I guess if you want to take a little bit
Speaker 6: more academic approach to it, it would be well, maybe the
Speaker 6: Trump administration has decided to go back to the original
Speaker 6: Monroe doctrine of sort of taking being a lot more
Speaker 6: close attention to the Western hemisphere, of a not allowing
Speaker 6: communist nations in the Western hemisphere.
Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating conversation.
Speaker 6: But Mark Mark Rubio is probably part of the part
Speaker 6: of the equation here that, as you can imagine, and
Speaker 6: rightly so, Cuban Americans have a particular problem, even more
Speaker 6: so than most folks with communism.
Speaker 1: Given their history, and I understand that.
Speaker 6: But again, everything with the drugs is the same, everything
Speaker 6: with the government of Venezuela is the same. So the
Speaker 6: only has changed as John Bolton is out and Marco
Speaker 6: Rubio's in and now we're threatening military action.
Speaker 2: It is interesting because I know that an awful lot
Speaker 2: of people who supported Donald Trump, you know, did so
Speaker 2: on the basis of no new sort of military interventions
Speaker 2: and regime changes, and yet this fight seems to be
Speaker 2: going on. And you know, I mentioned Senator Mark Warner before.
Speaker 2: Here's a little bit of what he had to say
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump's efforts in Venezuela and how locals should
Speaker 2: fight back.
Speaker 5: And I think in many ways the uniform military mate
Speaker 5: helped save us from this president and his lame people
Speaker 5: like Hagsap because I think their commitment is to the
Speaker 5: Constitution and obviously not the Trump and I expect Bradley
Speaker 5: to adhere to that.
Speaker 2: So, I mean, again, we've got this whole sort of
Speaker 2: question here about people undermining the constitution here and this
Speaker 2: sort of constitutional chain of command.
Speaker 1: Again, everybody knows.
Speaker 6: Everybody knows that you don't follow illegal orders in the military.
Speaker 6: I do a lot of work with West point cadets.
Speaker 6: They beat that into these kids at a young age.
Speaker 6: There's no reason for the senators to go on TV
Speaker 6: and talk about this. They're they're not making they're not
Speaker 6: educating anybody, and when pressed, not a single one of
Speaker 6: them have been able yet to point to a single
Speaker 6: illegal order. So you do wonder why this conversation is
Speaker 6: going on. I'm not really sure you know what Warner
Speaker 6: says when you know, when he's essentially implying that the
Speaker 6: military is going to protect the country against Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Now, look, donald Trump starts.
Speaker 6: Giving illegal orders, then I think this is a fair
Speaker 6: case to say, a fair discussion to have. But no one,
Speaker 6: not a single person has come up and say, oh,
Speaker 6: and by the way, this was an illegal order. They're
Speaker 6: doing the investigation now on the drug boats, but there's
Speaker 6: no evidence yet these were legal orders. And now this
Speaker 6: is very harmful language I expected from Senator Warner, and
Speaker 6: I hope we can get back to supporting that the
Speaker 6: president as the commander in chief.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just unbelievable to be I mean, the way
Speaker 2: that they're basically talking about undermining the Constitution in order
Speaker 2: to save it. But hey, Mick, let's shift gears a
Speaker 2: bit here because there's a lot of other stuff going
Speaker 2: on I want to talk about now. I know, special
Speaker 2: elections or by elections as we call them in Australia.
Speaker 2: You can tell some things about them, but it's a
Speaker 2: little bit tricky. However, there was a really interesting special
Speaker 2: election in Tennessee just a year out from the midterms.
Speaker 2: This week. Republican Matt Van Epps defeated Democrat aft In
Speaker 2: Bane by about nine points in a Nashville, Tennessee suburban
Speaker 2: seat that the Republicans had previously won by a margin
Speaker 2: of twenty two. Now it was a bit of a
Speaker 2: mixed bag of a result. Some people thought the GOP
Speaker 2: was going to get rinsed much harder than they did. Here.
Speaker 2: There's always a swing against the incumbent already, it's the
Speaker 2: same thing here. Do we take anything out of this
Speaker 2: heading into the midterms.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do.
Speaker 6: You've got districts that if they flip, it's a red
Speaker 6: flag for one party or the other.
Speaker 1: They got them in the UK, we've got them.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 6: This one didn't flip. I get that. The guy won
Speaker 6: by nine points. Donald Trump won by twenty two. So again,
Speaker 6: the first thing you do in a campaign is try
Speaker 6: to win, and that's exactly what the Republicans did. But
Speaker 6: as they try to sort of dig into the data,
Speaker 6: there's a lot a lot to be concerned about here
Speaker 6: for the Republicans. Keep in mind, James, this was a
Speaker 6: horrible Democrat candidate. Not only was she very very far
Speaker 6: left wing progressive in a fairly conservative state, but she
Speaker 6: was on record as saying she hated the city that
Speaker 6: she sought to represent in Congress, specifically Nashville, Tennessee. In fact,
Speaker 6: during the primary, she talked about how much she hated Nashville. So,
Speaker 6: you know, I've talked to some folks who were really
Speaker 6: worried that if the Democrats had put up the ideal candidate,
Speaker 6: they might have won this seat. There's all sorts of
Speaker 6: information here that should be worrying to Republican Here's my fear, James,
Speaker 6: is that everybody's afraid to tell the president, and the
Speaker 6: only thing the President is hearing is, oh, this is great.
Speaker 1: You know, this is a win. A win is a win.
Speaker 6: It's a special election. You don't have to worry about this.
Speaker 6: If you ignore, if Republicans ignore what happened in this election,
Speaker 6: that could bode very, very poorly for the midterms a
Speaker 6: year from now, because it was a win, but it
Speaker 6: was an ugly win.
Speaker 2: An ugly win. Yeah, fair enough. Hey, listen, before I
Speaker 2: let you go, I also want to get your thoughts
Speaker 2: on some of this reporting that's come out about the
Speaker 2: FBI director, Cash Pattel in his deputy Dan Dan Bongino
Speaker 2: from Randon Devine in The New York Post, who has
Speaker 2: reported a lot of people saying that they are quote
Speaker 2: more concerned with building personal resumes than they are about
Speaker 2: leading the FBI, and that Patel is in over his head. Now,
Speaker 2: the White House has denied that the President was about
Speaker 2: to fire Patel, but it does seem like there are
Speaker 2: some concerns, and you could say this is around the
Speaker 2: Epstein files and a number of other issues that people
Speaker 2: are concerned about. Cash Pattel.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's had some very high profile you know, things
Speaker 6: he shouldn't said, things that came out wrong, et cetera. Look,
Speaker 6: he's learning on the job, and that's always difficult to do.
Speaker 6: Keep in mind, the New York Post is a right
Speaker 6: of center outlet. They're no tremendous lovers of Trump. They've
Speaker 6: been critical of him from time to time, but they
Speaker 6: also support him as well, So it's a fairly objective approach.
Speaker 6: The Post is printing that that means they've got some
Speaker 6: information that would suggest it's true. Keep in mind, both
Speaker 6: of them are just one really good result away from
Speaker 6: having this go away. In fact, then Bongino, I think
Speaker 6: the FBI just announced here in the last few hours
Speaker 6: that they've arrested a suspect in the January sixth pipe
Speaker 6: bombing attacks or attempted attacks going all the way back
Speaker 6: to January sixth of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: That's a very high profile.
Speaker 6: Success if it turns out to go to trial and
Speaker 6: so forth and result in convictions. So yeah, look, they
Speaker 6: need to have some wins, James, don't we all life,
Speaker 6: you'd like to have more than uses, And I think
Speaker 6: a few good wins for the Department of Justice, a
Speaker 6: few good wins for the FBI would probably help put
Speaker 6: some of this conversation to bed.
Speaker 2: And Micky, we'll be fascinating to follow up on that
Speaker 2: January sixth pipe bomb attempt arrest, and we'll probably talk
Speaker 2: about that next week. Mickmulvaney, thanks as always for joining me.
Speaker 1: Thanks Yans.
Speaker 2: Now let's turn our attention to the great state of Minnesota,
Speaker 2: which has made headlines around America and around the world
Speaker 2: after revelations of a billion dollar welfare fraud scheme said
Speaker 2: to have been perpetrated by that state's massive Somali migrant community,
Speaker 2: which prompted these contentious remarks from President Trump.
Speaker 7: But when they come from hell and they complain and
Speaker 7: do nothing, but bitch, we don't.
Speaker 4: Want them in our country. Let them go back to
Speaker 4: where they came from and fix it.
Speaker 2: Tough words from President Trump about that state's migrant community,
Speaker 2: but it's also a tough problem with this welfare schanedule.
Speaker 2: Here to break it down for us is president of
Speaker 2: the Center for the American Experiment and proud Minnesotan John Hendereker. John,
Speaker 2: thanks so much for coming on the program. I have
Speaker 2: been wanting to talk to you about this issue ever
Speaker 2: since the story started to break. Here explained for our viewers, John,
Speaker 2: just what is alleged to have happened here among the
Speaker 2: Somali refugee community and many members who were alleged to
Speaker 2: have been involved with a massive welfare scheme.
Speaker 8: Well, there's been a series of scandals involving frauds committed
Speaker 8: in connection with various Minnesota government programs. The most famous
Speaker 8: one is called Feeding Our Future, and that was a
Speaker 8: program that supposedly was feeding poor children during the COVID epidemic.
Speaker 8: And it turns out that something like five hundred million
Speaker 8: dollars in fraud were committed and overwhelmingly by SAMA, and
Speaker 8: they would purport to have fed thousands of children here
Speaker 8: in Minnesota, and they would use random name generators to
Speaker 8: come up with names of children, and they would fake
Speaker 8: invoices for many thousands of dollars worth of food that
Speaker 8: they claim to have bought, and they would send these
Speaker 8: invoices to Minnesota's Department of Education and they would just
Speaker 8: pay them without ever checking to make sure that these
Speaker 8: these many, many thousands of children were actually being fed.
Speaker 8: And so this story broke almost four years ago. My organization,
Speaker 8: American Experiment has been writing about it following it closely
Speaker 8: since January of twenty twenty two. So this is old
Speaker 8: news here in Minnesota. The US Attorney's Office is the
Speaker 8: one the federal government has prosecuted these cases, not the
Speaker 8: state government, and they have indicted I think seventy eight
Speaker 8: people so far. There have been two extensive criminal trials.
Speaker 8: More than fifty defendants have pled guilty and so this
Speaker 8: is all kind of old old news here in Minnesota
Speaker 8: that's feeding our future. So in addition to that, there
Speaker 8: are four or five other scandals where money is being
Speaker 8: stolen from government programs in our state. And the assistant
Speaker 8: US Attorney who has been prosecuting all of these cases
Speaker 8: estimates that billions of dollars have been stolen from the taxpayers.
Speaker 2: That's just unbelievable. And of course this has now also
Speaker 2: created a big fight between your Congressman Ilhan Omar and
Speaker 2: Donald Trump, and ilan Omar is now trying to essentially
Speaker 2: make excuses for some of the fraud that's occurred. Have
Speaker 2: listened to what she had say to Jake Tapper on CNN.
Speaker 6: Can you shed any light on why the fraud got
Speaker 6: so out of control in Minnesota?
Speaker 9: I think what happened is that, you know, when you
Speaker 9: have these kind of new programs that are designed to
Speaker 9: help people, your oftentimes lying on third parties to be
Speaker 9: able to facilitate. And I just think that a lot
Speaker 9: of the COVID programs that were set up, they would
Speaker 9: set up so quickly that a lot of the guard
Speaker 9: rails did not get created.
Speaker 2: So let me get this straight here, John, It's not
Speaker 2: the fault of the people who committed the alleged fraud
Speaker 2: or have been convicted of the fraud, but it's apparently
Speaker 2: the state for not creating enough guardrails.
Speaker 8: Well, that explanation doesn't work, James. There were childcare frauds,
Speaker 8: for example, years before the COVID epidemic, which again were
Speaker 8: centered in the Somali community. People who had set up
Speaker 8: childcare centers and then bill a state for caring for
Speaker 8: nonexistent shouldered. A number of Somalis went to prison ten
Speaker 8: years ago for doing that, and other frauds are post COVID.
Speaker 8: For example, there's a medicaid program that for some reason,
Speaker 8: Medicaid is supposed to be healthcare, but for some reason,
Speaker 8: this program consisted of giving people advice on how they
Speaker 8: could find housing. And the program spent about one hundred
Speaker 8: million dollars and it turns out that not a single
Speaker 8: dollar was legitimate. Every single dollar in that program was
Speaker 8: a fraud, and that was all post COVID. So you'll
Speaker 8: had Omar's attempt to explain the problem a way really
Speaker 8: doesn't work well.
Speaker 2: And also, you know, I'm always fascinated by how the
Speaker 2: broader media covers these stories, and you know, of course,
Speaker 2: we you know, make clear that it's not every Somali
Speaker 2: who's involved in this, but there is a big contingent
Speaker 2: of people in this community who are have been accused
Speaker 2: of being involved in this. And I was fascinated because
Speaker 2: there's also been accusations that programs, disability programs saying that
Speaker 2: you know, kids have autism and things of that nature
Speaker 2: are also rife with that sort of behavior. And I
Speaker 2: have found articles going back to two thousand and nine
Speaker 2: in the New York Times, which with later ones in
Speaker 2: twenty eleven and twenty thirteen saying, huh, there just seems
Speaker 2: to be this weird statistical thing where huge numbers of
Speaker 2: Somali migrant children in Minnesota, just Minnesota, have been diagnosed
Speaker 2: with autism. It's kind of funny that nobody stopped to
Speaker 2: think that there could have been something beyond just some
Speaker 2: medical statistical flute going on.
Speaker 8: Well, James, you're absolutely right. One of the five or
Speaker 8: six scandals that we've seen, again centered in the Somali
Speaker 8: community has to do with autism centers that would emerge
Speaker 8: just recently. But these autism centers apparently were purporting to
Speaker 8: be caring for large numbers of kids who didn't exist
Speaker 8: or were not in fact autistic. And the thing you
Speaker 8: have to keep in mind, James, is that the numbers
Speaker 8: of children in the United States being diagnosed with autism
Speaker 8: have exploded in recent years. Why is that, Well, there
Speaker 8: may be that there are more kids who are autistic,
Speaker 8: but what we know for sure is that there are
Speaker 8: more kids being diagnosed as autistic. And part of what
Speaker 8: is going on there is that money follows the diagnosis.
Speaker 8: If you can had a diagnosis that you're autistic, or
Speaker 8: at least on the spectrum of being autistic, money will flow.
Speaker 8: And so I think that is part of the story here.
Speaker 8: And we have seen frauds associated specifically with these autism
Speaker 8: centers in the Somali community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and look that's a problem that's university. We
Speaker 2: have a very similar issue in Australia. But John, I
Speaker 2: want to ask you too about Governor Tim Waltz. Now,
Speaker 2: I mean, the more we learn about Kamala Harris and
Speaker 2: Tim Waltz and everything else, we realize what a big
Speaker 2: bullet the country dodged last November. But where was Tim
Speaker 2: Waltz in all of this? And what is he saying
Speaker 2: the governor, the Democrat governor, about this scandal that seems
Speaker 2: to have unfolded under his watch, with billions of dollars
Speaker 2: of taxpayer money going out the door.
Speaker 1: Tim Walls was nowhere.
Speaker 8: His agency heads were the ones that are proving these
Speaker 8: expenditures of billions of dollars, Tim Walls. When the crackdown
Speaker 8: finally came, it was the FBI that solved the case,
Speaker 8: was the FBI that investigated, It was the FBI that
Speaker 8: executed search warrants. It was the US Attorney's Office that
Speaker 8: has brought all these criminal cases. Tim Walls has had
Speaker 8: nothing to do with it. He went on the I
Speaker 8: want to meet the press last Sunday and he was asked, well,
Speaker 8: do you take responsibility for all these frauds on your watch?
Speaker 8: And he says, well, I take responsibility for sending people
Speaker 8: to jail, And of course everybody here in Minnesota laughed
Speaker 8: at that, because the truth is Tim Walls and his
Speaker 8: Attorney General, Keith Ellison, they haven't sent anyone to jail,
Speaker 8: no one, zero. All of the law enforcement here has
Speaker 8: been done by the federal government, by the US Attorney's Office,
Speaker 8: and Tim Walls and his administration have at best been
Speaker 8: bystanders trying to make excuses for why they've let these
Speaker 8: billions of dollars in taxpayer money flow out the door.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable. John Heinriger, thank you so much for joining me
Speaker 2: as always really appreciated. Now we're going to get a
Speaker 2: quick braink and when we come back, going to be
Speaker 2: joined by Stephanie hammil But first, remember this guy, what
Speaker 2: was the name, Pete, booty Dog, Beauty Juice, whatever his
Speaker 2: name was. He was Joe Biden's secretary of transportation, and
Speaker 2: he did such a lousy job at that job that
Speaker 2: people actually knew who the Secretary of Transportation was. But
Speaker 2: as far as his name is concerned, well you know
Speaker 2: who just stepped in to finally save the day.
Speaker 7: Was contrary to the law the Congress that A ruled
Speaker 7: it says you have to look at combustion engines.
Speaker 3: Biden and Buddha Judge actually did an analysis.
Speaker 1: Using edge edge he Judge red.
Speaker 3: Judge used evs and hybrids to come up with a
Speaker 3: sixty two mile an hour pro gallon standard.
Speaker 2: Got it? Edge edge don't get that?
Speaker 1: What wrong?
Speaker 2: Let's leave that one there for now. Anyway, Stephanie Hamill
Speaker 2: joins me after the break. Well, joining me now is
Speaker 2: political commentator Stephanie Hammill. Stephanie, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: joining me here on the US Report. Wanted to talk
Speaker 2: to you bringing up a lot of stuff that we've
Speaker 2: been talking about today already with the Somali migration crisis,
Speaker 2: this has led to Donald Trump talking about banning migration
Speaker 2: from third world countries. I think he's listed nineteen countries
Speaker 2: so far. Tell us about what he's talking about here.
Speaker 2: Do we know what countries are named? What are the
Speaker 2: implications for this and how is it being received?
Speaker 10: Well, it's being received in different ways, right. People have
Speaker 10: different opinions about what Trump has said. Obviously, some people
Speaker 10: think his rhetoric on this is too strong, while others,
Speaker 10: especially supporters, are saying that this is what they voted for.
Speaker 10: His really strong reaction to migration really came after what
Speaker 10: happened to the National guardsmen in Washington, d C. Where
Speaker 10: they were shot over the holiday weekend and Thanksgiving, and
Speaker 10: we learned out it was an Afghani who was a
Speaker 10: migrant here, and we also learned some things about how
Speaker 10: this migrant was having a hard time assimilating and supposedly
Speaker 10: he had a clean record and so on. And so
Speaker 10: this kind of goes along with a lot of the
Speaker 10: headlines we've seen over the past year's year, if you will,
Speaker 10: where there are so many immigrants, migrants who some of
Speaker 10: them are here legally, some of them illegally, who are
Speaker 10: committing crimes, and we're also learning a lot about the
Speaker 10: people who are using the safety nets here, if you will.
Speaker 10: So we've been told that migrants are a net positive
Speaker 10: on this country. But if that's the case, then why
Speaker 10: are so many of them using government assistants aka money
Speaker 10: that is paid for by the taxpayer. So, you know,
Speaker 10: there needs to be a huge conversation about immigration, migration,
Speaker 10: and then this is one of the main reasons why
Speaker 10: President Trump got elected, and so American people are looking
Speaker 10: for action and definitely a response to some of the
Speaker 10: things that we've seen so far. So if people aren't contributing,
Speaker 10: they shouldn't be here. This is America, the best country
Speaker 10: in the world, and we shouldn't have to accept people
Speaker 10: from the third world if they're not willing to assimilate
Speaker 10: and contribute.
Speaker 2: Well, look, I don't think you're going to get a
Speaker 2: lot of people disagreeing with you on that. And obviously
Speaker 2: Donald Trump's big platform coming in was fixed that southern border,
Speaker 2: and he did that very very well. But what are
Speaker 2: Trump people saying to some of the criticism that the
Speaker 2: left is bringing up now that says, well, this is
Speaker 2: a new distraction here, it's a distraction technique. Let's get
Speaker 2: everybody angry about migrants when there's economic figures and economic
Speaker 2: numbers that aren't all that hot in some areas of
Speaker 2: the economy.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I wouldn't say that it's a distraction. This is
Speaker 10: a concern that people have had for a long time, right,
Speaker 10: and this is one of the drivers for the election
Speaker 10: and electing President Trump. With that being said, when you
Speaker 10: have migration at these levels and illegal immigrants coming through,
Speaker 10: that does have an effect on our economy. Right, So
Speaker 10: let's say, let's talk about legal migration. So Americans are
Speaker 10: going to have to compete with migrants for jobs, right,
Speaker 10: We're gonna have to compete for housing and so on.
Speaker 10: And then when it comes to illegal immigration, if you
Speaker 10: talk about the crime and the cost of dealing with
Speaker 10: that in some of these areas, I mean, it all
Speaker 10: has an impact on our communities, and so yes, the
Speaker 10: housing and our economy needs to be addressed, and it
Speaker 10: is being addressed, but again, migration adds to that.
Speaker 2: Indeed, hey, another part of the economy too that that
Speaker 2: is going to change now is a change in what
Speaker 2: are called the CAFE standards, just basically the fuel efficiency
Speaker 2: standards for vehicles. And the Trump administration this week announced
Speaker 2: that they are repealing the Biden era federal fuel economy standards,
Speaker 2: which would have basically made it almost impossible to keep
Speaker 2: producing petroleum gasoly empowered vehicles. They're going to weaken these
Speaker 2: efficiency requirements, and people are already saying Ford has already said,
Speaker 2: this is great. We can make a lot more new
Speaker 2: vehicles that are affordable. But here's what President Trump said
Speaker 2: when announcing this.
Speaker 11: It put tremendous upward pressure on car prices. Combined with
Speaker 11: the insane electric vehicle mandate Biden's burdens some regulations help
Speaker 11: cause the price of cars to soar more than twenty
Speaker 11: five percent, and in one case they went up eighteen
Speaker 11: percent in one year. Today, we're taking one more step
Speaker 11: to kill the green new scam as part of the
Speaker 11: greatest scam probably well other than Russia, Russia, Russian, A
Speaker 11: few others I could name the greatest scam in American history,
Speaker 11: the Green New scam.
Speaker 2: Stephanie, this is great news for American drivers, Am I correct?
Speaker 2: And does this mean that they'll also be able to
Speaker 2: take out those stupid little buttons you have to push
Speaker 2: so that the car doesn't turn off when you get
Speaker 2: to a red light.
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Those are so annoying, aren't they. I will say I
Speaker 10: love electric vehicles. I drive a Tesla's truck. But with
Speaker 10: that being said, I don't think that electric vehicles should
Speaker 10: be forced onto the American people. It's like a fantasy.
Speaker 10: When this first went through. It's like forcing people to
Speaker 10: buy a unicorn, if you will. A lot of people
Speaker 10: are just struggling to get by, pay their bills, and
Speaker 10: then to think that they can afford expensive electric vehicles,
Speaker 10: have the places to charge them, have the ability to
Speaker 10: use those on a day to day basis, right, You know,
Speaker 10: those are things that people need to think of. And
Speaker 10: it's like, not every apartment complex, not every housing has
Speaker 10: the ability to have these electric chargers for vehicles. If
Speaker 10: you're going on long distance trips, think about how many
Speaker 10: times you have to stop. I've taken my cyber truck
Speaker 10: on an eight hour road trip and I had to
Speaker 10: stop several times to charge the vehicle. It's not for everybody.
Speaker 10: So I think the Trump administration did good on this,
Speaker 10: and this was one of their promises. And it's supposedly
Speaker 10: supposed to save about one hundred and ten billion dollars
Speaker 10: over time. And so again, it's not that people don't
Speaker 10: want renewable efficient energy and that they don't want to
Speaker 10: drive electric vehicles. It's just impossible. It's an impossible task,
Speaker 10: an impossible goal, and the government shouldn't be funding all
Speaker 10: of these programs anyway. So if electric vehicles and this
Speaker 10: renewable energy is so great, then let the market play
Speaker 10: itself out. You don't have to force the American people
Speaker 10: to subsidize electric vehicles.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Stephanie so Well said, hey, finally, before I
Speaker 2: let you go, this story here was absolutely hilarious to me. Now,
Speaker 2: you remember all those celebrities who said they would leave
Speaker 2: America and never come back if Donald Trump won, Well,
Speaker 2: guess what. At least one of them was lying. And
Speaker 2: I know this is a surprise, It has been revealed
Speaker 2: that one of those celebrities, Ellen DeGeneres, has moved back
Speaker 2: to the States or is moving back to the States.
Speaker 2: After moving to Great Britain in protest and outrage. Stephanie,
Speaker 2: should we even be surprised at this hypocrisy?
Speaker 10: Not surprised at all. I'm actually maybe just like a
Speaker 10: tiny surprise that she didn't come back sooner. But we've
Speaker 10: seen these celebrities do that over and over again. It's
Speaker 10: so embarrassing. So they did it in the first election,
Speaker 10: and then all of them came back. And then the
Speaker 10: second election, so many of them said they were leaving
Speaker 10: the country. Many of them started trickling back. And you know,
Speaker 10: it's not a surprise that she's coming back too. I mean,
Speaker 10: she resided in California, where the weather is awesome. So
Speaker 10: one of the complaints was that the weather's tough there.
Speaker 10: It's too cold, too dreary. So they're coming back. Well,
Speaker 10: you don't really need to come back to the US
Speaker 10: for that. I mean, you can go to Mexico or
Speaker 10: somewhere else on the beach, somewhere warm in the country,
Speaker 10: or somewhere else in the world. You don't have to
Speaker 10: come back to the US. So essentially this kind of
Speaker 10: gives credit to President Donald Trump, and that is his
Speaker 10: presidency is not that bad, because if it was bad,
Speaker 10: these celebrities wouldn't come back. They know that there have
Speaker 10: been no human rights violations. They know that the country
Speaker 10: is under good hands when it comes to President Donald Trump,
Speaker 10: and so that's why they're eager to come back.
Speaker 2: Stefanie Hamil, thank you so much for joining me now.
Speaker 2: Don't go away. Tons more with John Fund after the break,
Speaker 2: But first let's get into the Christmas spirit with a
Speaker 2: little side by side comparison in of how they did
Speaker 2: up the White House for Christmas under Joe Biden and
Speaker 2: how Donald and Malania have done it on the other side.
Speaker 2: Have a look. Yeah, I know they tried to call
Speaker 2: Trump weird. Anyway, don't go anywhere because John Fund's going
Speaker 2: to join me in a moment to discuss infighting in
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party the break. Welcome back to the program.
Speaker 2: Joining me now is political journalist John Fund. John, thanks
Speaker 2: for joining me here on the program. We've had an
Speaker 2: awful lot of talk this evening about the issues with
Speaker 2: Donald Trump and migration and Somali communities and Afghan communities.
Speaker 2: But what's really interesting to be here is the way
Speaker 2: that Democrats are responding. And we've now got a Democrat
Speaker 2: Congress Win Deely Ramirez saying that actually the biggest threat
Speaker 2: to the country are ICE agents. Have a look at this.
Speaker 12: The American people's anger and tolerance of DHS violations of
Speaker 12: our rights. That's what's the result of DHS unlawful, unaccountable,
Speaker 12: unconstitutional actions which put the American people in our liberties
Speaker 12: at risk every day. Let me be very clear, the
Speaker 12: Department of Homeland Security, you can quote me on that
Speaker 12: is the single biggest threat to public safety right now.
Speaker 2: So John, let me get this straight here. It's not
Speaker 2: Afghan migrants who have been brought in and not well
Speaker 2: vetted and who have been allegedly accused of all sorts
Speaker 2: of various crimes. It's not the issues we've seen in
Speaker 2: the smaller community in Minnesota. It's not all these other issues.
Speaker 2: It's the Apartment of Homeland Security and ICE that's the
Speaker 2: biggest problem. Tell me, John, how does that work?
Speaker 4: James?
Speaker 13: The cargo woman was speaking in a congressional hearing room.
Speaker 13: There's lots of security. You can't have a protest in
Speaker 13: a congressional hearing room. I would challenge her to go
Speaker 13: back to her district in Chicago, Cook County and have
Speaker 13: a town hall meeting with her constituents and say those
Speaker 13: same words, because what she would probably hear very quickly
Speaker 13: is that Cook County has a murder rate three times
Speaker 13: higher than the national average, and in fact, Cook County
Speaker 13: leads the entire country in the nation in the number
Speaker 13: of homicides per year. Have her explain to the people
Speaker 13: who have been widowed, the people who have lost their children,
Speaker 13: the people who have lost close relatives, why, somehow the
Speaker 13: greatest threat to public safety is ice versus the thugs
Speaker 13: who murdered their relatives.
Speaker 2: I think, John, that's really powerfully and well said here.
Speaker 2: But there's a bigger issue too hereation of homeland security,
Speaker 2: the demonization of ice, the demonization of the very idea
Speaker 2: that a nation that to be a coherent nation needs borders,
Speaker 2: that these boarders should be enforced. It seems to be
Speaker 2: like on the left now it's almost an article of
Speaker 2: faith that the status of being a migrant, whether legal
Speaker 2: or not, now confers upon somebody this almost unassailable goodness,
Speaker 2: no matter what they've been accused of actually doing.
Speaker 13: Well, what's the old expression, we are the world? Apparently
Speaker 13: the left's opinion is the entire world is us, and
Speaker 13: if they come to the United States will all be
Speaker 13: in it together, one big, happy family. Well that's not
Speaker 13: how the way the world works. Now. Having said that,
Speaker 13: I think ICE has to be very cautious. It has
Speaker 13: to make sure that there aren't abuses of the system.
Speaker 13: We have seen cases where people who are legally here
Speaker 13: are caught up in the bureaucracy and sent back or
Speaker 13: jailed when they shouldn't be. That shouldn't happen because that
Speaker 13: undermines the entire approach that the president is taking. So
Speaker 13: my sister, for example, she works in human services in Portland, Oregon.
Speaker 13: They have been abuses there. But the bottom line is
Speaker 13: the American people are behind this program because these people
Speaker 13: are either here illegally or they have basically stolen documents
Speaker 13: and are working under false pretenses.
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Hey, John, I want to move on to
Speaker 2: some interesting I guess infighting within the Democrat Party and
Speaker 2: it all goes back to re litigating that presidential election
Speaker 2: of last year. Now, presidential Governor Josh Shapiro, who I'm
Speaker 2: a big fan of and I thought he was a
Speaker 2: very very smart guy, and I thought he could have
Speaker 2: made a great vice presidential pick for the Democrats. Well
Speaker 2: he has unleashed on former Vice President Kamala Harris, claiming
Speaker 2: that what she wrote about him in her book One
Speaker 2: hundred and seven Days about him is an utter be
Speaker 2: s is what he said. During an interview with The Atlantic,
Speaker 2: Shapiro denied what Harris said, which included alleged discussions of
Speaker 2: Shapiro and others she vetted to be her running mate,
Speaker 2: and he said, I can tell you that her accounts
Speaker 2: are just blatant lies. Now this is interesting to me because,
Speaker 2: among other things, you still see poles that say Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris could be somebody who might be talked about God
Speaker 2: help us again as a nominee in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 13: That's all name id. The bottom line is the vast
Speaker 13: majority of the American people don't know any of the
Speaker 13: names of the other potential Democratic presidential candidates, with a
Speaker 13: possible exception of Gavin Newsom, and he's number two in
Speaker 13: the polls. Look, I think there's probably some truth in
Speaker 13: both of their accounts. I believe that Josh Shapiro really
Speaker 13: didn't want to be on the Democratic ticket. He wanted
Speaker 13: to be talked about for being on the Democratic ticket.
Speaker 13: But I think he went into the job interview knowing
Speaker 13: that he was going to make impossible demands or base
Speaker 13: sickly appears stand offish as to whether or not he
Speaker 13: wanted the job, and Kamala Harris responded appropriately and picked
Speaker 13: someone else who was obviously a disaster for other reasons.
Speaker 13: Talking about Tim Maltz, the land who represents Minnesota, the
Speaker 13: land of one thousand scandals. I believe that Josh Shapiro
Speaker 13: is running for president. I think he believes that Kamala
Speaker 13: Harris ultimately will not run for president. So he's basically
Speaker 13: separating herself from them and trying to demonstrate, well, when
Speaker 13: I run, I'm going to be a different kind of Democrat,
Speaker 13: especially a Democrat who doesn't lose.
Speaker 2: You know, John, it's interestingly you say that he is
Speaker 2: a potential go for the presidency in the next candidate,
Speaker 2: next next election cycle. I always thought there was some
Speaker 2: really interesting about Josh Peary. He kind of reminded me
Speaker 2: of some of the old New Democrats of the nineteen
Speaker 2: nineties with his you know, moderate talk. But do you
Speaker 2: think that the Democrat Party, with their issues with Israel
Speaker 2: would be able to nominate someone like Josh Shapiro who
Speaker 2: is Jews.
Speaker 13: Well there's a barrier there. On the other hand, he's
Speaker 13: from Pennsylvania, which is the quintessential swing state. He is
Speaker 13: a governor who Democrats view as being successful. I think
Speaker 13: that Israel is not the most important issue of the
Speaker 13: Democratic primary, and certainly we can't predict that it would
Speaker 13: be three and a half years from now.
Speaker 2: John Fun We're gonna have to leave it there. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for your time, as always appreciated. Now,
Speaker 2: don't go anywhere because Only in America is coming up next.
Speaker 2: But first, here's someone who wants to leave America. Open
Speaker 2: at a pro Luigi Manjoni protest. Remember he's the guy
Speaker 2: who allegedly gunned down that healthcare CEO because well let
Speaker 2: her explain.
Speaker 14: Yes, I wanted to come here to dietias. Later after
Speaker 14: being here and realizing how it's more fast, it's more
Speaker 14: smokes Ameras, I am ready to leave it. I don't
Speaker 14: I can't financially leave right now. But the first opportunity
Speaker 14: Natalie that I can get, I am leaving. And I'm
Speaker 14: leaving on principle because I feel that if I, as
Speaker 14: an immigrant, remain in a fascist country.
Speaker 2: Ah, America is fascist, so fascist that the government might
Speaker 2: even pay her a cool thousand bucks just to help
Speaker 2: her on her way. Oh the humanity. I say good riddance,
Speaker 2: bye bye, but you don't go bye bye. You stay
Speaker 2: there because Only in America is next. As Prince Harry
Speaker 2: makes an attempt head comedy. You're not gonna want to
Speaker 2: miss that. Welcome back to the program, and now it's
Speaker 2: time for a little segment we like to call Only
Speaker 2: in America. Well this week on Only in America a
Speaker 2: little reminder of why the old thirteen Colonies decided to
Speaker 2: break away from England. Now you may have thought it
Speaker 2: was all because of a tax on tea or something,
Speaker 2: but no, it was because we in America didn't want
Speaker 2: to be ruled by a family. This absolutely lame. Get
Speaker 2: a load here of the comic stylings of Prince Harry.
Speaker 8: Say the obsessive royalty, So why not.
Speaker 2: Hold on?
Speaker 12: Hold on?
Speaker 6: Look, look, I wouldn't say we're obsessed with royalty.
Speaker 13: Really, I heard you.
Speaker 1: I heard you elected a king. That's a fair party.
Speaker 2: Well I was saying blue words. That's all the time
Speaker 2: we have for this week, see you next time. Bye bye.