1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: H'm my Boris and this is Striketalk. 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 2: The three c's. 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 3: Control what you can control, concentrate on what counts, cope 4 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 3: with what you can't control. I think we would all 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 3: live a better life. 6 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Beedro Skoulan, Welcome to Straittalk. 7 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: Mike, thank you, Mark, appreciate it. Just take me back. 8 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: What's your story? 9 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 3: The Soviet Union had occupied Armenia, so my dad did 10 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 3: whatever he needed to do to bribe the Communist government 11 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: for us to go on vacation to Italy. He went 12 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 3: to the American consult and landed in Los Angeles, California, 13 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: as political refugees. At that time, we don't speak the language, 14 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 3: we don't understand the culture. We have two hundred and 15 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 3: ten dollars in our pocket. But with that said, coming 16 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 3: to the United States so young, I believe it gave 17 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: me an advantage to build myself into an entrepreneur with 18 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 3: multiple companies, and today I get to serve humanity because 19 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: of that. At twenty one, this gentleman Jim Franco, he 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: was mentor to me. He taught me how to become 21 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: an entrepreneur, how to create value and exchange for money, 22 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 3: how to solve problems the more complex. The problems that 23 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 3: you solve, the more money you can make. We are 24 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: wired to serve, but if you don't have a sense 25 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: of purpose, routine, the need to serve, we will start 26 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: self destructing and digging holes in our life alcoholic drugs, pornography, food, 27 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 3: social media. 28 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: How do you find out where your purpose is? 29 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: Good question, Well, I'll have two purposes. I'll start there. 30 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: Your first purpose. 31 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: Is dro schooling. 32 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to Rye to Mike, thank you, Mark, appreciate it. Actually, 33 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: welcome to us, try to It is a pleasure to 34 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: be here. It's a wonderful place. 35 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: What are you guys doing You do on a tour 36 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: or something? What's happening? 37 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so we're on a tour. 38 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: The tour is called Rise to Greatness Phizz Productions, and 39 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: so tomorrow will be in Melbourne speaking there, Rise to 40 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: Greatness Brisbane the next day and then on Saturday back 41 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: to here Sydney to finish off with the sold out 42 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: crowd again. Rice to Greatness is going to be a 43 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: wonderful event. You've spoken at one like that before. 44 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: It's sold out? 45 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: Yes, well yeah, the Sydney event has already sold out yet. 46 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: Wow, that's cool and by the way, you got to 47 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 4: what you gotta do tonight. You got to watch the 48 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: New South Wales as the Queen's then we've got the 49 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 4: talking about rise to greatness. 50 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: I mean, this is the greatest clash of. 51 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 4: Unadorned warriors that anyone's ever going to see. So I'm 52 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: just giving a quick tip. Get on a nine now, yep, 53 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 4: and watch that tonight, mate, because you're going to love it. 54 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 2: And tell me who I'm rooting for. You've got to 55 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: go from yourself yourself belt, please done? 56 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: So occolion. Now, So when I hear. 57 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: Names with I A and on. 58 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: The end of it, I immediately think of our Omenians. 59 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: Are you a Meanian? I am? I mean? And our 60 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: cultures are very similar. 61 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, the Greek culture and our meaning cultures are very 62 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 4: similar in fact. But you and you guys love a 63 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 4: barbecue too, absolutely, Yeah, you love a barbecue, and so 64 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 4: we Greeks we love a barbecue as well. 65 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,279 Speaker 2: We don't call a barbecue, but we do love a barbecue. 66 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 4: But just take me back, though, because you're obviously American 67 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 4: as in USA, take me a little bit back. How 68 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 4: did you become an American? And what's your story? 69 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm actually transplant into the United States. My 70 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 3: father was a he became a member of the Communist 71 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: Party in nineteen seventy four, the year I was born. 72 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: Years whereabouts in the USA in Armenia. 73 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 2: In Armenia as part of the Soviet Union. 74 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 3: Ye as you know, the Soviet Union had occupied Armenia, 75 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 3: and in nineteen seventy four, my father became a member 76 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: of the Communist Party. Now with that said, my father 77 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 3: loves American music, loves American culture, so he was like 78 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: an American who was born in a Communist country. And 79 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: so my brother, who's older than me by sixteen years, wow, sorry, 80 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 3: by fourteen years, he was about to go into the 81 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,559 Speaker 3: Soviet Army and if you remember. 82 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: As a conscription though, like as part of conscript like force, yes, yeah, exactly. 83 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: And back then the Soviet Army was fighting Afghanistan, and 84 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: of course these young men were coming back with limbs missing. 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 3: And my dad said, there's no way that we've been 86 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: occupied by the Soviet Union, that my son is going 87 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 3: to go fight in their war and come back with 88 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: the limb missing. And so my dad did whatever he 89 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: needed to do to bribe the Communist government and for 90 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: us to escape into Rome. We spent ten days in Rome, 91 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: we went to the American consult and on day eleven 92 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: July sixth, June sixteenth, nineteen eighty we landed in lax 93 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, California as political refugees. 94 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 95 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, so literally a former Communist now in the United States. 96 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 2: At that time. 97 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: We don't speak the language, we don't understand the culture. 98 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 3: We have two hundred and ten dollars in our pocket, 99 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 3: a family of five. I'm the baby of the family, 100 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 3: six years old. 101 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: So three kids mom, yeah, correct, three. 102 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 3: Kids in mom and dad and I'm the oops baby. 103 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: So in other words, my brother's fourteen years older, my 104 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 3: sister is sixteen years older, and I was born by accident. 105 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: But of course my thank god. Yeah, my parents say 106 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 3: that I'm their biggest blessing. And so with that said, 107 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: coming to the United States so young, I had the 108 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 3: good fortune to assimilate easier I assimilated, I was able 109 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 3: to live the American dream. We certainly lived in Section 110 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 3: eight housing, which is government insisted housing, which is low 111 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: income housing in Santa Anna, California, which is southern California, 112 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: Orange County. Santa Anna is the armpit of Orange County. 113 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 3: Is the only way I could describe it. It's even now. 114 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: It's not the greatest place. Nineteen eighty ganged infested, horrible community, 115 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 3: but we were blessed and grateful to be in the 116 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 3: United States, and so the government helped us out the 117 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 3: best they could. My mom and dad, older brother, older 118 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: sister worked as much as they could and got us 119 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: out of there and moved us into Anaheim, California, cleaner, 120 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: better place. And today I live about thirty miles away 121 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: from where my dad lives. My mom passed away last 122 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 3: year from dementia. But I live in Chino Hills, California. 123 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: It's just outside of Orange County. Beautiful place to be, 124 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 3: and it actually reminds me Southern California reminds me so 125 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: much of Sydney in terms of the climate, the weather, 126 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: the water. 127 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's do you have a thing to yourself about 128 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 4: the brivery, the courage and maybe the commitment that your 129 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 4: dad had to your family to make that call to 130 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 4: just to get up and go. 131 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 3: Mark, When I think about it, and I always tell 132 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: my son and daughter. So my daughter is sixteen, my 133 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 3: son is eighteen, Andrew and Chloe, and I tell them 134 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 3: it's not even the equivalent of like if we went 135 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 3: to Japan, from the United States to Japan, because today 136 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: you have Google Translate, so you could speak English and 137 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 3: it'll translate in Japanese. I said, it would be the 138 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 3: equivalent of escaping and going to Mars, where you're meeting Martians. 139 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: You're learning a new culture, a new language. There was 140 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 3: no Google Translate. They may want to kill you when 141 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: you get there. In fact, let's say the United States 142 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: would not be happy if we left. Like when I 143 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 3: think about the severity of punishment that my dad could 144 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: have faced if he got caught. Holy smokes, Like the 145 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 3: man risked his life, He risked our life to put us, 146 00:06:58,279 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: his kids in a better position. 147 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 2: What does that mean though? 148 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 4: To like A, I mean, you may not remember because 149 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 4: you're six, but perhaps you do. Perhaps your mom and 150 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: dad sort of relate stories to you. Your dad's my mind. 151 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: Dad probably related the stories to definitely your older brother 152 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 4: and sister. World to did you have to sort of 153 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: be secreted out of the joint, like like going the 154 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: darker night or did you have to sort of hide 155 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 4: in a train or pretend to be just going on 156 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:24,239 Speaker 4: a holiday. 157 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: What's the deal? 158 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: So, so here's here's a great story for you, probably 159 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: about six months before we fled. Now I should tell 160 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: you to preface the story. My dad was in a 161 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: communist country. Everybody works for the government, right, and my 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: dad worked for a clothing manufacturing plant. 163 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: So he made. 164 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: Suits and he would put patterns like a vest, pants, slacks, 165 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: jacket on material, then they'd cut it out and make suits. 166 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: My dad got so clever he would put the patterns 167 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 3: so tight together that after making ten or eleven suits, 168 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: he had enough material and he would smuggle that go 169 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: home and he would make a pair of pants or 170 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 3: a vest or a jacket for someone to buy on 171 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: the black market. This is how he raised twenty five 172 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 3: thousand rubles to be able to bribe the Soviet government 173 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 3: to allow us to go on vacation on a holiday 174 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: to Italy. 175 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 4: So this is like a sawd hustle, an absolute side hustle, 176 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 4: the school saw hustle man Mark. 177 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: In fact, one night, I remember it was dark, there 178 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 3: was a knock on our door. Two KGB agents standing 179 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: at the door. They tell my dad they have to 180 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 3: inspect the house or the flat, the apartment that we 181 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: lived in. And we were doing well for ourselves because 182 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: once you're a Communist party member, you do well for yourself. 183 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 3: But they had gotten word that my dad might be 184 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 3: planning an escape, so they said, we have to check 185 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: your house, inspect your house. And it's not like the 186 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 3: United States or here where there has to be a 187 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 3: warrant in any of that stuff. They come in. I 188 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: remember they lined us all up against the hallway wall. 189 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: We're standing with our backs against the wall. They check 190 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 3: for everything. They look for a bimble, chalk, a meter stick, 191 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: anything that would signify that my dad is running a 192 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 3: side hustle. My dad was so good at hiding everything. 193 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: They found nothing. And my dad is fluent in five languages, 194 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 3: one of them being Russian, and these were Russian KGB agents. 195 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: So my dad said, look, let's not make this a 196 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: wasted trip for you. I've got this bottle of vodka. 197 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 3: Let's have a seat at the kitchen table and drink 198 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: and talk all night. They drank, He got them drunk, 199 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: made them happy, and sent them on their way. Six 200 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 3: months later, we were on our holiday to Italy, and 201 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 3: that was our escape. 202 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 4: And just pardon mignrance, but I don't know much about 203 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 4: Soviet Union time that time. 204 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 2: Was it okay to you on holiday. 205 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 4: So was that a thing you could say, OK, we're 206 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 4: going to get a holiday, but we're going to come 207 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 4: back them. 208 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: And how did it all work? An application? 209 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's okay to go on a holiday to a 210 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: approved country, and of course Italy at the time, being 211 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: Communist sympathizers, Yeah, that was on the approved list. And 212 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 3: the story we had to make up, as the story 213 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 3: goes like this, that my mom has a sister in Rome, Italy, 214 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 3: which she did not. 215 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: I had to make the story up. 216 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 3: Oh, we had to make up a story. And we 217 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 3: had to look like we're traveling with two suitcases. We 218 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 3: had to make it look like we're going on a holiday. 219 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: So we left everything behind to family, to cousins, aunts 220 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 3: and uncles. Now, if we said we're going on a 221 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 3: holiday to the United States, forget it, it's over. Like 222 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: obviously the Cold War was happening. There's no way you're 223 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 3: going to You're not going on a holiday to the 224 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 3: United States. So we went to Italy knowing that they 225 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 3: would approve us to go to Italy for ten days, 226 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: and like I said, we ended up spending all ten 227 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 3: days in the There were hotels there that would take 228 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 3: in political refugees like us that were privately owned. In fact, 229 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 3: here's a beautiful thing about social media. Two years ago 230 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: I met a lady from Rome, Italy. She said, I 231 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: think you and your family stayed in one of the 232 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 3: hotels that my grandparents ran. Wow, And I asked my 233 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: dad about it, and sure enough he confirmed it, which 234 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 3: was I'm getting goosebumps talking about this. 235 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: And so you know, there's a beauty of social media there, right. 236 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: And so as soon as we got there, we stayed 237 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: at one of those hotels because you know, we were broke. 238 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: We're trying to make the best of our money. And 239 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: in fact, I remember day two in Rome, Italy, I 240 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: had my first banana. My dad bought a banana. I've 241 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: never tasted a banana, yeah, And I remember my dad 242 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 3: bought five bananas, one for every member of the family. 243 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: And after eating mine and realizing how good it was, 244 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: I grabbed my dad's out of his hand and I 245 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: ate his and of course, being a good father, he'd 246 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: let me have it. But my dad and my brother 247 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: spent eight of the ten days in the American consult 248 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: pleading with them that look, we are political refugees. I'm 249 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 3: a communist party member we escape were escaping. If we 250 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 3: go back to the Soviet Union, they're sending him to 251 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: Siberia and it's a sure death. And so they pumped 252 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: my dad for information for eight nine days and then 253 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,239 Speaker 3: they said, where do you want to go in California 254 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: or in the United States. My dad only knew one person, 255 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: a friend of a friend in California, and that friend 256 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: had agreed to let us stay in his flat for 257 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,719 Speaker 3: one month, and so that's how we ended up in 258 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 3: southern California, and the gentleman was kind to us. He 259 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: had a two bedroom apartment, a flat. He and his 260 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: wife were in one bedroom and the five of us 261 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: were in another bedroom. 262 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 2: But he said, you have thirty days. 263 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: He helped my dad find a job, multiple jobs, paper 264 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: route pumping gas, helped my sister and my brother find 265 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: a job, and within thirty days we had enough money, 266 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 3: and thanks to the government assisting, we ended up moving 267 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: into Section eight housing complex, which is that government assisted housing. 268 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 3: And from there it was just hard work and consistency. 269 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: Hard work and consistency, and my dad knew so just 270 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 3: about an hour north of Orange County, sant Ana, where 271 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: we lived, there's a city called Glendale. Glendale is predominantly Armenian. 272 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: In fact, there are signs on the highway that say 273 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: Little Armenia. My dad said, we're not moving there. My 274 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: mom would beg and plead, let's move to Glendale, where 275 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 3: we speak delaying, which we can get around easier. My 276 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 3: dad said, no, We're going to stay here where we 277 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: have to assimilate, learn the language, understand the culture. And 278 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 3: I think it was one of the greatest decisions he made, 279 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: and it was harder in defense of my brother and sister. 280 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 3: It was very difficult for them. They were nineteen and 281 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 3: twenty one years old. I was six years old, so 282 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 3: I was able to assimilate to the American culture so 283 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: much better than my siblings. But because of that, I 284 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: believe it gave me an advantage to become the American 285 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: dream and to build myself into an entrepreneur with multiple companies. 286 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 3: And today I get to serve humanity because of that. 287 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny, you know, I'm the product of a 288 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: refugee family and that my father fled Grace when the 289 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 4: civil war was on between the Communisty and Greece and 290 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: the nationalists in Greece. 291 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: It was a civil war straight after World War Two. 292 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: And. 293 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 4: You know, we get these great opportunities by the virtue 294 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: of that parents making these great sacrifices for us. But 295 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: the opportunities aren't enough. And I was only just talking 296 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 4: to someone earlier on. It doesn't matter what your parents 297 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: tell you. For me, it's what I see my parents do. 298 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 4: They're the things that actually sort of form my DNA 299 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: and a lot of other people I know who are 300 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: migrants here in Australia or the kids of migrants at 301 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 4: first generations Australians. What are the things that you saw 302 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: in your dad and mum and probably your brother's is 303 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 4: given the age difference that you think formed in characteristics 304 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 4: for you that made you successful or helped make you successful. 305 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 3: I saw several things on the positive side. I saw 306 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 3: work ethic that I that I would not learn anywhere 307 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 3: else other than from my mom and dad, brother and sister. 308 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: I mean they worked multiple jobs. My dad worked at 309 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 3: a pizzeria, bussing tables, a gas station pumping gas, and 310 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: at tun in the morning he was the bring newspapers. 311 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 3: My brother Will worked two jobs and was going to 312 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: junior college university to learn English. My sister worked two jobs, 313 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 3: going to junior college to learn English. My mom worked 314 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 3: one job and was looking after me. I learned how 315 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: to manage money. I learned how to live frugally. I 316 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 3: learned that nothing can trump work ethic. Like my mom 317 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: and dad and family had work ethic beyond everything. I 318 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: also learned that and this is a negative thing about 319 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: being an immigrant to a country. And my dad in 320 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 3: Armenia would say a phrase he said, we would run 321 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 3: out of money before we run out of month, and 322 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 3: he was frustrated because he would have to make decisions 323 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 3: do we keep the gas on or the electricity on 324 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: or the water on, but we can't keep everything on. 325 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: We would run out of money before we run out 326 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 3: of month. So while I learned work ethic and how 327 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: to be frugal and manage money, I also learned to 328 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: fear money because in my head money was always scarce. 329 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: It was something that other people could come by that 330 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 3: we couldn't, and so when we came by it, we 331 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: have to hoard it, we have to be careful with it. 332 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: And so I had this. 333 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Blue collar mentality thinking that because we're immigrants, because we 334 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 3: are not naturally born in the United States, that we 335 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: don't have the advantages that everyone else did. So it 336 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: took a while for me to break that. And I 337 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 3: an American entrepreneur named Jim Franco. He was a mentor 338 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: to me. I became a personal trainer at the age 339 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: of twenty one. And when you're a personal trainer, your 340 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 3: clients are typically affluent people when they're hiring you. And 341 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: little did I know, I had built in mentors and 342 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 3: this gentleman, Jim Franco. So I was twenty one, he's 343 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 3: in his early sixties, sixty one, and he started to 344 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 3: mentor me. He taught me how to become an entrepreneur, 345 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 3: how to create value and exchange for money, how to 346 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: solve problems, and he remembered one of the things he said, 347 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 3: the more complex the problems that you solve, the more 348 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: money you can make. The other thing he told me 349 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 3: is I said, Jim, well, how do you make your money? 350 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 3: And here in a software company, he said, I take 351 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: a little bit of money from a lot of people 352 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 3: that clicked. And I can fast forward from that that 353 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 3: conversation a decade and see that the businesses that I 354 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 3: built were all about solving problems in exchange for taking 355 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 3: a little bit of money from a lot of people, 356 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 3: and so it's I almost had a rich dad and 357 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: a poor dad. The poor dad taught me work ethic 358 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 3: and money management because we didn't have a lot of it, 359 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 3: But he also taught me to fear money and that 360 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 3: none of it was around. 361 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: My rich dad. 362 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: Jim Franco taught me that money is a byproduct of 363 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: value and salesmanship. And so I was just really blessed 364 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: to have two amazing dads mentor me. 365 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: That's very interesting, And that's sort of like sort of 366 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 4: zeroing right into Robert Kiyosaki's book exactly, and that's his 367 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 4: sort of philosophy, the two ways of thinking, and they 368 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: both are valuable, both are important. If I could just 369 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: double down, because a lot of people will be looking 370 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 4: at you, bitters and saying, oh, well, it's over very 371 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 4: well for me. You know, did this, that and the other, 372 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 4: and he's making lots of money, and they just assume 373 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 4: that they can't get there, and they probably under value. 374 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 4: And that's what I want to double down on, is 375 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 4: work ethic. 376 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,199 Speaker 1: Now it's very easy for. 377 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 4: Us, you and I see to say, oh, we worked 378 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 4: hard and we watched that dad. My dad was the 379 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 4: same as your dad. Like you know worked, he was 380 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 4: a milk run then he go to his factory work. 381 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 4: Then he'd be a cleaner at They're just sort of 382 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 4: conversations like a lot of people go. 383 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 2: They don't really know what it means. We get excited 384 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: by it because. 385 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 1: We observed it sure and we lived it. 386 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: But when it comes to work ethic, maybe you could 387 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 4: just double down, as I said earlier, into For me, 388 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 4: it's not about just working hard, it's about feeling the need. 389 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: It's nearly in need. I have to work hard. Like 390 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I don't have to work in a financial sense these days, 391 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: but if. 392 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 4: I couldn't work, I would be beside myself. I would 393 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 4: be I would be like I've lost a part of myself. 394 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 4: It's part of it's my work, I think is part 395 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: of how I live my life. 396 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: Maybe you could explain that how that. 397 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 4: Sort of sits with you as a part of your life. 398 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 4: I mean, here you are in Australia. You probably don't 399 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 4: need to do this, but you're doing it because I 400 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 4: always need to draw make a few bucks. Yeah, you 401 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 4: would like it to be commostly successful. I get all 402 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 4: that part, but really there's a bigger part of all 403 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 4: This is an ethic. 404 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: You want to share something. 405 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't want to put words in your mouth, Mark, 406 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 3: but I think what you're trying to say is if 407 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: because you don't need to work, like we all know 408 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 3: who you are, you do not need to work, but 409 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: you work because your sense of self worth, your sense 410 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 3: of self worth comes from the work, your contribution to humanity. 411 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: If you don't contribute and correct me if I'm wrong. 412 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 3: If I feel like if I don't contribute, then I 413 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 3: feel worthless. 414 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: I feel like, right, yeah. 415 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 3: Here's the harsh truth that I hope I'm wrong, but 416 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 3: I think I'm right. I don't think a lot of 417 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: people have that meaning. They go, they say, man, if 418 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 3: I had half the money that, if I had half 419 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: the money that Batros did, I'm retiring. 420 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to work by holiday. 421 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: That's it. 422 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: That's I don't know if it's our parents how they 423 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: brought us up, or if it's a nature or nurture, 424 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 3: if it's a genetic thing where my self worth comes 425 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: from production. I literally feel like a piece of shit 426 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: if I do not contribute to humanity. I've raised my kids, 427 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: Andrew and Chloe, to be value adders, to be problem solvers, 428 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: to be an asset and not a liability. I was 429 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 3: teaching them a P and L report. It's six years old, 430 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: and I said, listen, you have to be in the 431 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: black column and not in the red column of humanity. 432 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 3: I'm wired that way to add value. I don't know 433 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 3: if that wiring is a byproduct of again, nurture or nature. 434 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 3: I can sense that you're wired that way. I think 435 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: it's a gift that we have, and I do believe 436 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 3: it's a muscle that people can develop, because doesn't it 437 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 3: feel good to do this podcast and to get messages 438 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 3: from people to say, Mark, You've changed my perspective about money, 439 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 3: about wealth, about generation wealth. I can change my family's 440 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: trajectory in life. That feels good. Who doesn't want to 441 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: experience that? And so I think the people who say that, man, 442 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: if I just win the lottery, or if I have 443 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: half the money that you did, I'd buy a boat 444 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 3: and retire, never to be seen again. Yes, but I 445 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: also think within a few months you would start self destructing. 446 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 3: You would find the vice alcohol, drugs, infidelity, pornography, whatever 447 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 3: it is, and we are wired to serve. I'll give 448 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: you a great example. I've got this beautiful dog. She's 449 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 3: part German Shepherd, part mastiff, a big dog. She's nine 450 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: years old now. We rescued her she was eight months 451 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 3: old and eighty pounds, a very heavy dog, big dog. 452 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 3: We live in southern California, so we flew to San Francisco, 453 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: my son and I when he was small. We rescued Cookie. 454 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: Her name is Cookie, and we drove back for eight hours, 455 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: and in those eight hours, Andrew and Cookie bonded. We'd 456 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 3: never had a big dog, Mark, and so this dog 457 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 3: was pulling my wife and kids all over the property, 458 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 3: to the point where Chloe was falling on her face. 459 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: We only had small dogs, and so I decided, I'm 460 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 3: going to get a dog trainer to come. This lady 461 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 3: comes and works with Cookie for three weeks. At the 462 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: end of the three weeks, calls me over. She says, 463 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 3: this dog right here. You have to make sure that 464 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 3: you have a routine with her. I said, we'll kind 465 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: of routine. Well, maybe you can play fetch with her 466 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 3: every morning, throw the ball ten or twelve times, make 467 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: sure she fetches it. She's already bonded with your son. 468 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 3: You have to make sure she bonds with your daughter 469 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: and that she feels like she's protecting them, shepherding them. Okay, 470 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: got it, And she says, I really want to make 471 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 3: sure you're understanding me, sir. She could tell that I 472 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: was rushed, like, come on, lady, I've paid you, You've 473 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 3: done the work. 474 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. Cookie is now, she sits, she heals, she walks. 475 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: You could leave. 476 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 3: She kept stressing the point, and she said, if you 477 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 3: don't do what I say with this dog, she will 478 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: start getting depressed and anxious, and she'll start digging holes 479 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 3: in your beautiful backyard, in that rose garden, and she 480 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 3: points to our rose garden. I said, how come, she said, 481 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 3: in the absence of having a routine and the need 482 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: to serve, she will start getting anxious and depressed, and 483 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: she will give herself something to do, which is to 484 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 3: dig holes all over your backyard. We're no different as humans. 485 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 3: If I don't have if you don't have a sense 486 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 3: of purpose, routine, the need to serve, we will start 487 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: self destructing and digging holes in our life. How that 488 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: shows up could be, like I said, alcoholic drugs, pornography, food, 489 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 3: you name it, social media. 490 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 2: There's so many. 491 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: Vices that people use to escape their realities from I 492 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: myself feel that my contribution to humanity will continue until 493 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 3: I take my final breath, because if it doesn't, I 494 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: will self destruct. I will find a way to destroy myself. 495 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: I feel you probably feel the same way. I think 496 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 3: most people are wired the same way. They just think 497 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: that if they had the money, that they would go 498 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 3: off on a boat somewhere. But we have the money, 499 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 3: and here we are creating content to serve humanity. 500 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's a very interesting take on the whole, 501 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 4: on the whole, a very interesting definition of the whole 502 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 4: process because I want to just take one step more 503 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 4: and I don't want to sort of double down too 504 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 4: much into the work ethic part. But for me, sometimes 505 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 4: these types of virtues being a hard worker, or being 506 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: a person who's prepared for give somebody, just having these 507 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 4: virtues characteristics in our makeup sometimes and there's nothing wrong 508 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 4: with this. It's nearly a selfish move because and there's 509 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 4: nothing wrong with it because it's a good selfishness because 510 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 4: there's a good outcome for everybody else, not just yourself. 511 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 4: Let's I hate the phrase win win, but it is 512 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 4: a win win, like you win, they win, And to me, 513 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 4: that's the best addiction you can have for me, and 514 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 4: I wonder whether this is the case for you. I 515 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 4: selfishly chase the work ethic. I selfishly chase helping others 516 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: because some thing happens in my brain. 517 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 2: I don't know what. 518 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 4: Hell, it is probably some sort of chemical that gets 519 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 4: expressed in my brain that makes me feel good. I 520 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 4: get rewarded, and it cased me alive and in case 521 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: me happy enough, and I mean happy, but just happy enough. 522 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: Is that? 523 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: Do you think that's the hallmark of an entrepreneur like you? 524 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 4: That selfishness that it's not self centered, yeah, but selfishness. 525 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 3: Because there's two forms of selfishness. There's a selfishness that 526 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 3: I could self destruct and go inward and obviously be 527 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 3: a bad example of humanity to my family, to my kids, 528 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 3: to the world and be hurtful and be hurtful, or 529 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: I could be selfish in creating companies and organizations. Look, 530 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,959 Speaker 3: I've donated millions of dollars to Shrine As Children's Hospital. 531 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 3: These are a seri of twenty two hospitals across the 532 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: United States that help children whose families can't afford medical procedures. 533 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: A dear friend of mine, thirteen years ago he was 534 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 3: a police officer very limited income. He had a child 535 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: who needed a wheelchair. The spine was deformed. Shriner's Children's 536 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: Hospital helped that young man, and when I found out, 537 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 3: I said, when I become rich, I will keep donating 538 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: as much as I can. Today, we've donated millions of 539 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 3: dollars to Shrine our children's hospital. I've got ninety seven 540 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: kids adopted through Compassion International. Every Christmas, we spend anywhere 541 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,479 Speaker 3: from thirty to fifty thousand dollars in our community at 542 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: the local Target store to buy Christmas gifts for kids 543 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: who would otherwise not have a Christmas gift Christmas morning. 544 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 3: That sounds very like, Gee, you're a really great human 545 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: for doing that, Betros, But it's also very fulfilling for me. 546 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: It's the most selfish thing I do because as a 547 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 3: young boy, I've dealt with sexual abuse, physical abuse, and 548 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: one of the most healing things I do is to 549 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 3: donate to these three charities that are all kid based, 550 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: child based charities. It's not lost on me. It's absolutely selfish, 551 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: but it creates a win and it allows me to 552 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 3: get that dopamine hit. It allows me to get that 553 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 3: serotonin hit, which keeps me happy enough so that I 554 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 3: don't self destruct, because I also realize I'm wired to 555 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 3: self destruct because of what's happen to me as a 556 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 3: young man. I have enough self awareness, and I've had 557 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 3: a great therapist as well explain to me that I 558 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 3: will self destruct. In fact, I asked my therapist many 559 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 3: years ago. His name is Kevin. I said, Kevin, I've 560 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 3: got seven companies and growing. We're donating millions of dollars. 561 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 3: This is fantastic. I feel like I've got a new addiction. 562 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 3: He said, great, do not stop this addiction. You are 563 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: an addict, and if you do stop this addiction, you 564 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: will be addicted to something that will destroy you. I said, Well, 565 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: then how long do I keep this going? He said, 566 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 3: and till you die? I said, check, got it. I 567 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 3: don't ask a lot of questions from people who I 568 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: feel are smarter than me. He said, keep going. He's 569 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: good for me. I'll keep going until I die. 570 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 2: So do you. 571 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: It's funny. 572 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 4: I'm glad I'm having this conversation with you. By the way, 573 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 4: the reason I do these shows is because I end 574 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 4: up meeting people like yourself and end up having some 575 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 4: brilliant conversations which I would otherwise never probably have the 576 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 4: opportunity to have and then lets me learn about myself 577 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: so selfishly. 578 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 2: Again, I'm learning. 579 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 4: About myself by talking to you about your experiences. And 580 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 4: so I mean, if we move beyond selfishness, and to 581 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 4: some extent, it's about us be coming more aware of ourself. 582 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: So you know, for me, it's an awareness. 583 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 4: So you know, I've accepted that I do these things 584 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 4: selfishly because at the end of the day, like you 585 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 4: just said, I probably would self destructed because I do 586 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 4: probably have an addictive personality in some respects. And you know, 587 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 4: I mean, I've experienced those times during my life. I'm 588 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 4: a lot older now, but during those younger years when 589 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 4: I didn't have great judgment relative to now, that I 590 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 4: would probably do things were a bit destructive of me 591 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 4: and people around me. 592 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: And which is terrible because I got four. 593 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 4: Sons and they are usually the closest people that totally 594 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 4: they are they always are ex wives. I've had three 595 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 4: ex wives, I've got four sons, these got three grandsons. 596 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 4: But like, I know what the outcomes are because I'm 597 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 4: self aware, and I think that people listening to this 598 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 4: and having the opportunity to listen to someone like you 599 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: in this environment, you know they if they want to 600 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 4: be entrepreneurs. There are a lot of traits that entrepreneurs 601 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: have in common. Probably the most important thing, though, is 602 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,719 Speaker 4: to build self awareness of yourself absolutely. And you know, 603 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 4: it's great that someone like you makes these admissions because 604 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: a lot of people, you know, someone's I don't want 605 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 4: to say that. I don't know whether they want to 606 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 4: keep it a secret or not, but they don't want 607 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 4: to talk about why they act what drives them. What 608 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: drives me is self awareness of if I don't do 609 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 4: these things, I'm going to have a bad outcome. I'm 610 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 4: going to be sitting around thinking about what else can 611 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 4: I get up to? Even at my current a I'm 612 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: sixty eight, Like even now, I was started thinking about 613 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: It's one of the reasons I wrestle with Larry, who 614 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 4: you've been wrestling with, And one of the reasons I 615 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 4: used to box, because it's sort of like a nearly 616 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 4: like a self destruct thing. I've got to get in 617 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: there and get ruffed up by someone like Larry is 618 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: much better than probably both of us at the end 619 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 4: of day. You know, he's an expert, but it puts me, 620 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 4: brings me back. 621 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: To ground to reality all the time. Mate. 622 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 4: You know, just remember how old you are, who you are. 623 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 4: You know you're not King Kong. Do you go through 624 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: those same processes yourself? 625 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 626 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 3: In fact, I currently have a torn tricept and it 627 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 3: was because last year I was boxing, testing myself, challenging myself, 628 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 3: and as I went to throw a left cross, I 629 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: got checked and pop went my tricepts. 630 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: I've done that, okay, faves. I had to get reconnected though. 631 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: There you go. 632 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: I have to get my reconnected. I just haven't made 633 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 3: time for it yet, and so that again grounds me. 634 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 3: It reminds me that who I am, that I'm not 635 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 3: indestructible like I used to think I was, That there 636 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: is repercussions to actions. We need that especially we're type 637 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 3: A tightly wound high speed. When people say describe yourself, 638 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 3: I say, type A tightly wound high speed, and I 639 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: can immediately spot someone just like me. We're cut from 640 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 3: the same cloth like I. As soon as I met you, 641 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 3: I'm like type A tightly wound high speed like this, 642 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 3: man will lose interest very quickly, or he will lock 643 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 3: onto a conversation if it interests him. And that's how 644 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: I am, and again I think most people can get there, 645 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 3: but it takes a high level of self awareness. And 646 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 3: I think the question to ask is how do we 647 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: develop a high level of self awareness? 648 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: That is the question right what you'll what show you it. 649 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 3: Is to bring down your ego defenses because as men, 650 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: especially male entrepreneurs especially, and this is where women I 651 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 3: believe are much better than us in this category, we 652 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 3: are driven, driven, driven, driven, driven to create an outcome. 653 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 3: We want to kill, fuck and conquer. That's what men 654 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: want to do. And so it takes a high level 655 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: of ego to stay focused on that, to think that 656 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 3: you're better than everybody else, that no one else can 657 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 3: do what you do, and that I'm indestructible, and I 658 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 3: will build a team, share my vision with my team, 659 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 3: and we will attack the goal. 660 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 2: But at what cost? 661 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: And so if you can bring your ego defenses down, 662 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 3: you can bring up your self awareness. Ego goes up, 663 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 3: self awareness goes down. Those two things are related. I 664 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: learned that eleven years ago at the age of thirty eight, 665 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 3: when I had a massive panic attack. I thought it 666 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: was a heart attack, and I remember thinking, Who's going 667 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: to walk Chloe down the Aisle. If I die right now, 668 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 3: who's going to teach Andrew my son to be a 669 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 3: modern Dante. And I remember thinking to myself, if I 670 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 3: could just be spared, I'll change my ways. Needless to say, 671 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't a heart attack. It was a panic attack 672 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 3: of many that I would have subsequently. But it took 673 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: reducing my ego, realizing that I'm not indestructible, that I 674 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: don't have the answers to everything that I do need 675 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: to yield at times. And also you know this, with 676 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 3: time comes wisdom. Time plus experiences wisdom. Yeah, right, And 677 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: so as the ego goes down, self awareness comes up 678 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: and you realize I am a human. 679 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 2: I need to serve. If I stop serving, I self destruct. 680 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 4: So you hit on the very topic entrepreneur and also 681 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 4: ego versus awareness self awareness. This way, I don't want 682 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 4: to be in delegate, but one of the one of 683 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 4: America's big as entrepreneurs. You know, he managed to make it, 684 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 4: get himself voted in as the President of the United States. 685 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 4: You know, there's not much more you can do as 686 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 4: an entrepreneur in life. You know, you go from a 687 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: businessman to becoming the president. Not a career politician, but 688 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 4: I'm going to become the president. That's that's the he 689 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 4: did it, and Trump did that. He got grazed. There 690 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 4: had to have been a couple of millimeters in your 691 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 4: case of centemeter in your case, and he American a system. 692 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: He might have. 693 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 4: Been in a dreadful position and USA could have been 694 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 4: in a bit of chaos because I would have thought, 695 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 4: you tell me, it seems to be division in the 696 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 4: United States. And do you think there would have been 697 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,239 Speaker 4: an overreaction if something had to happen to him. 698 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, there, let's just be honest. There was an attempted 699 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 3: assassination on former President Trump. They tried to cancel him, 700 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 3: then they tried to stop him at using the court system, 701 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 3: the legal system, and the third and five attempt is 702 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 3: an assassination. This was an assassination attempt that did not 703 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 3: work out. I don't know if God's hand, I don't 704 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 3: know if it was God's hand. I don't know if 705 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 3: it was just sheer luck that he turned his head 706 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 3: in the right moment that the bullet grazed his ear 707 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 3: instead of hitting him in the back of the head 708 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: and killing him. Whatever it was, I believe if that 709 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: bullet had hit the intended target in the head, Trump 710 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 3: in the head and he died, we would have seen 711 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 3: the breakout of civil war. Because, sadly, and it breaks 712 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 3: my heart, man, my dad risked his life, risked our 713 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 3: life to bring us to the United States. The United 714 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: States today is not the United States that I came 715 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: to the United States that I came to. Yes, it 716 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 3: still had problems, but people were somewhere in the middle. 717 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,280 Speaker 3: Today it's so divisive, it's so divided, and I believe 718 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 3: that if Trump had died, that would be the final 719 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 3: straw that would send the country into civil war. 720 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 4: Well, it maybe can help me out, he because I 721 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 4: just tend to understand where it came from. 722 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: We have a little bit to vision here. 723 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 4: No, we need to extent what we observe in the 724 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 4: US at the moment, and probably the same in the 725 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 4: UK at the moment too. 726 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 2: And perhaps other places. 727 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 4: But what do you think it is that they are 728 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 4: so diametrically opposed, Biden and Trump and the red and 729 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 4: blue and the left and the right, so diametrically imposed, 730 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 4: like it's just like so much so that when I 731 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 4: watch TV, I will go from sending to Fox like 732 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 4: your stations and they are completely different. 733 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,359 Speaker 3: Well, I'll give you a great example when it when 734 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: the assassination attempt happened this past Saturday, July thirteenth, CNN 735 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 3: said President Trump was whisked away by Secret Service after 736 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: a fall. After he fell during his press conference. You 737 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: go to Fox News and it says President Trump just 738 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 3: feaced an attempted assassinate and Secret Service wisked them away. 739 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 3: That's how far the story is. So if you only 740 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 3: if you have tunnel vision and you're only getting your 741 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: news from CNN. And just so you know, I'm neither 742 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 3: left or right, I'm right down the middle. I'm right 743 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 3: down the middle. I'm a constitutionalist. Let's just go by 744 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 3: the Constitution. And by the way, you know, my family 745 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 3: and I we went to dinner in southern California about 746 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 3: two weeks ago. There's this beautiful road car called Carbon Canyon, 747 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 3: thirteen miles of twisting turns that connects Brea and Chino Hills, 748 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: my city and the city that we were having dinner. 749 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 3: In ten o'clock at night, I said, hey, let's go 750 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 3: through this beautiful scenic road. And as we come around 751 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 3: one of the corners, we see two cars that have 752 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: just crashed into each other, a tesla and a Midsubishi hatchback, 753 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 3: a young Asian man in one, Hispanic lady, and another. 754 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 3: A white couple had just pulled over to help them out. 755 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 3: And you're probably wondering whysely naming off ethnicities. No police yet, 756 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 3: no fire department, nothing. I've got a first aid kit. 757 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 3: I'm first s aid certified. I pulled over, had my 758 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 3: wife nine one one while my son and I ran 759 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 3: out to help. In that moment, the young man with 760 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 3: the gash on his head, I could see his skull, 761 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 3: the woman in the tesla with the bloody nose, and 762 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 3: the white folks who stopped. No one asked me, and 763 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 3: I didn't ask them what is your political affiliation? We 764 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 3: just wanted to help. I believe that's most of America, 765 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 3: that's most of the citizens. The divisiveness has taken place 766 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 3: now where the extreme on the left and the extreme 767 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 3: on the right have gotten so loud, and social media 768 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 3: is a great amplifier of the extremes. 769 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 2: That's it. It's a great amplifier of the extremes. 770 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 3: And I remember driving off thinking, you know, I don't 771 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 3: know that guy's sexual orientation. I don't know if he 772 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 3: votes Trump or Biden. Quite honestly, I don't care if 773 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: he's a transsexual unicorn. He needed help, I was there 774 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 3: to patch him up. The police came, I drove off. 775 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 2: That's it. 776 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 3: Yet on social media he could very well tell me 777 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 3: to go f off and pound sand And so I 778 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: realized that social media amplifies divisiveness. Most people who are 779 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 3: in the middle, we just want to have a good life, 780 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 3: we want a secure community, we want to make sure 781 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: there's some legacy for our family, et cetera. Those on 782 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: the extremes are the ones, the squeaky wheels that require 783 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 3: the oil that are amplified. Why this has amplified so 784 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 3: much post pandemic, I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but 785 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 3: I can tell you that there seems to be I'm 786 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 3: not a conspiracy theorist, but there seems to be an 787 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 3: agenda to erode the American constitution and to get more 788 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: control and compliance over the population, and that I don't 789 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 3: agree with. 790 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 1: Do you think is it social media though. 791 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 4: Amplifying it on purpose, or is it the extreme left 792 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 4: and extreme right. 793 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 2: Leveraging social media to their purpose. 794 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 3: I think it's the latter. It's the extreme left and 795 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 3: extreme right leveraging social media. And great example of this 796 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 3: we saw when Elon purchased Twitter. He proved that certain accounts, 797 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 3: certain voices were muffled, were throttled, were turned off. In fact, 798 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: the FBI had a finger in the whole process. He 799 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 3: exposed everything. And so, now, who's given the FBI the 800 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 3: orders to reach out to Twitter and to decide who 801 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,719 Speaker 3: gets a voice and who doesn't. Because Twitter, for the 802 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 3: most part was America's town hall. It's kind of how 803 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 3: we look at it, right, and so originally originally, originally, yeah, 804 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 3: so who's giving those orders? 805 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. Is there a deep state? I don't know? 806 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 3: And so I go back to what I know, which 807 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 3: is I will take an internal locus of control. I 808 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 3: know the people who I care for. I will look 809 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 3: out for them. I will take control of my own finances. 810 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 3: I will create my own sovereignty. I will have my thoughts. 811 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,959 Speaker 3: I will curate the thoughts that occupy my mind. Whether 812 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 3: it's I listened to the radio, a podcast, television, social media, 813 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 3: news media doesn't matter. I control the thoughts that occupy 814 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 3: my mind and the people I surround myself with. Those 815 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 3: two things have the highest influence on my behavior, and 816 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 3: then my behavior determines my outcome in life. And so 817 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 3: I don't know what is going on in the United States. 818 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 3: I don't know why there was an assassination attempt on 819 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 3: our presidents. I don't know why the Secret Service for 820 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 3: a good forty eight seconds or forty seven seconds, knew 821 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 3: where the bad guy was and did not shoot him. 822 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 3: Why they waited for him to take shots off. I 823 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 3: could go down the rabbit hole like every other American 824 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,880 Speaker 3: and start wringing my hands over conspiracy theories. How's that 825 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:31,240 Speaker 3: going to help me make more money, have more meaning, 826 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: and develop self mastery? 827 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 2: It's not. 828 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 3: And so while I'm fully aware of what's going on, 829 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 3: I choose to control what I can't control, concentrate on 830 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 3: what counts, and then cope with what I can't control. 831 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,760 Speaker 3: And I think if more people did that, the three c's, 832 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 3: Control what you can control, concentrate on what counts, and 833 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 3: cope with what you can't control, I think we would 834 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 3: all live a better life, no matter if you're in 835 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: the States or in Australia. 836 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 4: So do you think in your case at least is 837 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 4: your advice then to listeners and anybody for that matter 838 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 4: who seeks your advice. 839 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,320 Speaker 1: Extract yourself from the noise. 840 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: It's the only way because people. 841 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: Do get caught up in the conspiracy because it is 842 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: sort of interesting. I mean, it's sort of. 843 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 4: More sometimes some people are obsessed by it, but there 844 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 4: also is a curiosity around it. Like, OK, can you 845 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 4: imagine that someone, as you say, like sitting in the background, 846 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 4: and there's a whole movement sitting around them, and they've 847 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 4: infiltrated all these various places and they're all acting in 848 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 4: concert at the same time, and there's a supreme ruler 849 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 4: of this conspiracy, and you know, we don't know who 850 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:33,520 Speaker 4: this person will be. 851 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: It's nearly double O seven stuff. 852 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 4: But and then it it amounts to nothing for us, 853 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 4: any one of us normal people. An extraction of yourself 854 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 4: from the noise, but at the same time still listening 855 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 4: to it. 856 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: How do you do that? 857 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 4: How do you manage extract but at the same time 858 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 4: still be engaged a little bit? 859 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, awareness, but not addiction. Be aware of what's happening, 860 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 3: but don't be so addicted to the chaos that you 861 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: forget what's happening here. And I'll give you a smaller 862 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 3: example on my show on my YouTube show. I always 863 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: talk about this, and I remant for it. I say, 864 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 3: you know your favorite baseball team, your favorite basketball team, 865 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 3: your favorite football team. You know all the players, you 866 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,279 Speaker 3: know their stats, you know who got traded where and how, 867 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,800 Speaker 3: and how much they're making and what they're at batting averages. 868 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 3: You don't know your own fucking anniversary. You don't know 869 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 3: your kid's birthdays. You don't know exactly how much money 870 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 3: you have in your bank account, you don't know what 871 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 3: your financial trajectory is. Yet you carry the name, you 872 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: wear the jersey, you wear a jersey with another man's 873 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 3: name on your back, and you don't own the team. 874 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 3: And I'm not opposed to rooting for teams. Like I 875 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 3: said todight, I'll be watching the game and I'll be 876 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,800 Speaker 3: rooting for h Who am I rooting against South Wales? 877 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 2: New South Wales? It's about to make it? Got it, 878 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 2: got it. 879 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,160 Speaker 3: But I do have a big problem when people are 880 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 3: fully invested in that, yet they're going broke here. Their 881 00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 3: relationship is a mess, their kids are addicted to social media, 882 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 3: and they're depressed. Yet yet they're fully watching what's happening 883 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 3: with Biden and Trump. It doesn't matter if Biden goes 884 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 3: back into office, or Trump goes into office, or they 885 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,720 Speaker 3: bring in Gavin Newsom from California, who gives a crap. 886 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: I control what happens in my family and my economy 887 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 3: more than anyone sitting in the White House. 888 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: And that's like that. 889 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 4: I think that's an extremely good point in terms of 890 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 4: advice to people around mindset, because because we waste a 891 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 4: lot of time and we don't have much time. Time 892 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 4: is a bit mesty precious resource. 893 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,399 Speaker 2: But I can make more money, I can't make more time. 894 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 4: And you must make as much money as you can 895 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 4: and as much enjoy as much of the time as 896 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 4: you can. So therefore you've got to eliminate those wastage 897 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 4: areas where you don't influence it. You have no control. 898 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,279 Speaker 4: Every you mentioned your YouTube, your YouTube channel. Just tell 899 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 4: me through what are you doing on your YouTube channel. 900 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 4: Let's let's hear about that. 901 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 3: I created a show called the Bedroos Cooling a show, 902 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,960 Speaker 3: and this was on the heels of the pandemic. I 903 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 3: knew something was going on. Specifically, there was an attack 904 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 3: on masculinity. There was an attack on the way that 905 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 3: men are. You're competitive, you you want to build a legacy. 906 00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 3: You want to acquire things and everything that a man is, 907 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 3: you want to speak your mind, and everything that I 908 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 3: just said that a man is is considered toxic. And 909 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 3: I couldn't figure out why, and it had gone on me. 910 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 3: One day post pandemic, about a year and a half 911 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 3: into the pandemic, I realized, I remember, we're in the 912 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 3: United States, and so Canada is right above the United States. 913 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 3: So I'm explaining this to the CEO of my company, Bryce. 914 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 3: I said, Bryce, if you and I wanted to put 915 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 3: together a military so that we can attack Canada, we're 916 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 3: going to take over Canada, I said, Bryce. Do we 917 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 3: care about the children of Canada standing in opposition against us? 918 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 3: He said, well, no, of course not. Do we care 919 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 3: about the elderly in Canada standing in the opposition against 920 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 3: our army as we invade? He said, no, of course not. 921 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 3: Do we care about the women standing in opposition against us? 922 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,919 Speaker 3: Do they have a chance? He said no, of course, 923 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 3: Not said the only opposition would be Canadian able by 924 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 3: men to stand in opposition against us as we attempt 925 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,280 Speaker 3: to take Canada. 926 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: He said, yes, that that's your target. 927 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, right. The others are what your target? Exactly? Children, 928 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 2: women early, but at the man. Yeah. 929 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 3: So if I want to not shed any blood and 930 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 3: I want them to hand Canada over to me, the 931 00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 3: easiest way will be not to march into Canada with 932 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 3: guns and rifles and missiles, but to spend several years 933 00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 3: demoralizing and deconstructing the men, making them feel that they 934 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,080 Speaker 3: are toxic. They are they are not to act the 935 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: way that God has intended them to act and behave, 936 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,279 Speaker 3: to build and to want legacies and to acquire and 937 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,840 Speaker 3: to question things and to think freely and to come together. 938 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 3: Everything that we've been seeing happening post pandemic is to 939 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: dismantle masculinity because men us men, we are the greatest 940 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 3: threat to the opposition. And if they can get greater 941 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 3: levels of control and compliance over men, then they have 942 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 3: greater control over and compla over the country. And I 943 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,840 Speaker 3: believe that's what's happening. And so I started my podcast 944 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 3: with the intention of empowering men and helping them become 945 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 3: free fingers unite as men create money. My whole show 946 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 3: is based on money, meaning and self mastery. If you 947 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,479 Speaker 3: can create money, money is a vehicle to freedom. Money 948 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 3: is a vehicle to access you and I both know 949 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 3: that there's levels to the game that we play, and 950 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 3: I'm nowhere near your level, Mark, but I could only 951 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,680 Speaker 3: imagine at the Mark level, like holy smokes, right. But 952 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 3: the quality of my life right now, the access that 953 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: I have to people. 954 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 2: I could drive up. 955 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 3: And down in any one of my cars on the 956 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 3: highway that I've adopted. My company's name is on my highway, 957 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 3: Highway seventy one and Chino Hills on both ends. The 958 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 3: litter pickup is adopted by a fit Body boot camp, 959 00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 3: and I can speed up and down that highway and 960 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 3: the police will pull me over, Oh hey, Betros, and 961 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 3: they'll let me keep going. Now, I'm not bragging about that. 962 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: What I'm saying is I use my money to influence, 963 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 3: and so I could imagine how money is used to 964 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 3: influences our politicians and to act and support specific things. 965 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 2: And I share that with you. 966 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 3: Because men need to acquire more money, they need to 967 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 3: have greater senses of meaning and purpose. We are no 968 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 3: men especially are very much like my dog Cookie. We 969 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 3: need to have purpose, We need to have significance, We 970 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,800 Speaker 3: need to have meaning. If we don't, we will self destruct. 971 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 3: And then we of course need self mastery, you know, 972 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 3: stop your addictions, your vices, pornography and fidelity, and develop 973 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 3: to the higher level self, the self that is connected 974 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,360 Speaker 3: to God, to universal consciousness, to whatever your higher power is. 975 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 3: And if we can have more money, more meaning, more 976 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 3: self mastery, we can prevent the opposition government and the 977 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: lobbying pharmaceutical companies and food conglomerates and the military industrial 978 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 3: complex from influencing the government to oppress us further. 979 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,920 Speaker 2: And it's sort of like a bitress it's sort of 980 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 2: like a bit of a new concept. Five or six years. 981 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 4: I mean, sure we had moments where men had to 982 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 4: become much more aware of had I open right, And 983 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 4: I think that's probably fair enough. 984 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: But there has been. 985 00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,760 Speaker 4: A movement against in Australia at least a white male, 986 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 4: homosex heterosexualosexual like, which is you know, I got four 987 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 4: sons and three grandsons like and all of us at 988 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,040 Speaker 4: this stage fit into that category. But like, my mother 989 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 4: is like a goddess to me when she passed away, 990 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 4: but she was like a god. 991 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 2: To be sure that my mother was the biggest influence 992 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:28,359 Speaker 2: in my life. 993 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 4: And women are extraordinarily important to me in my family, 994 00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 4: in my life, extra I might have been divorced three times, 995 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 4: but that's I'm still good mates with all of them, 996 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 4: and I still talk to my and I have high 997 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 4: regard for them, particularly those who are mothers and my kids. 998 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:50,280 Speaker 4: I'm always scratched me. Where did this whole program come from? 999 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 4: I mean, do you think is it like? 1000 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,080 Speaker 2: And I don't want to get down the conspiracy. 1001 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,719 Speaker 1: Hole, but is it? Why would anyone be trying to 1002 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 1: break down what has always been? 1003 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 2: I think. 1004 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 3: Every January first, there's new laws enacted. You've been around 1005 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 3: for a long time. You said you're sixty eight. Have 1006 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 3: you ever celebrated a New Year's Day where the news 1007 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,040 Speaker 3: didn't say, hey, there's no new laws and no new regulations. 1008 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,840 Speaker 3: Every year in the United States, I think there's thirteen 1009 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 3: hundred new federal laws that are passed on average, thirteen 1010 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 3: hundred statewide, about six hundred new laws. So I look 1011 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,439 Speaker 3: at it this way, if there's a noose around our head, 1012 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 3: around our neck, every year that news gets tighter and tighter, 1013 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 3: more regulation, more regulation, more laws. There's never a year 1014 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 3: where they say, hey, we took away thirteen new laws, 1015 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 3: old laws, and you have more freedom. You have more freedom, right, 1016 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,640 Speaker 3: you can pay less taxes. You can just go into 1017 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,040 Speaker 3: Australia without a passport or a visa because. 1018 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 2: You're a human. You're a human. 1019 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 3: Look, man, a whale can swim from Australia to Mexico, 1020 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 3: to the United States and to Vancouver, BC. I don't 1021 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 3: see a whale carrying a pass and looking for a visa. 1022 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,319 Speaker 3: You and I can't do that. We're not as free 1023 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 3: as we think. Who is trying to control us? I 1024 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,319 Speaker 3: don't know. I do know that there's controlling compliance. The 1025 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 3: noose is getting tighter for a reason. I do know 1026 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 3: that if they force again call this conspiracy or not, 1027 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 3: but if they are forcing a shot on you, a 1028 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 3: vaccine on you, and saying that otherwise you can't open 1029 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 3: up your business, your kids can't go to school, which 1030 00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,440 Speaker 3: happened here, it happened there in the United States, it 1031 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 3: happened in Canada. Otherwise it will freeze your financial bank accounts. Like, 1032 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,279 Speaker 3: wait a minute, Wait a minute, At what point in 1033 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 3: history was it okay to start doing that? And who 1034 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 3: is going to be the opposition to stop that? Men, 1035 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,520 Speaker 3: not the women, not the children, not the elderly. It'll 1036 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 3: be the men standing up in opposition against big government. 1037 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,799 Speaker 3: And the pharmaceutical companies that are lobbying, bribing. Let's just 1038 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 3: call it what it is. It's not loud, it's bribing 1039 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 3: big government. How the fuck does Nancy Pelosi have better 1040 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,719 Speaker 3: stock options picks? She can pick stocks better than one buffet? 1041 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 3: How does that happen? 1042 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 2: You have to ask yourself the question someone's telling you. 1043 00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 3: Is that insider treating? Of course it is. If I 1044 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,080 Speaker 3: were to do that, I'd be locked up. You'd ever 1045 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 3: seen me again? Yeah, And so let's let's clean up 1046 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:16,759 Speaker 3: what needs to be cleaned up. So I don't know 1047 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 3: who the puppet masters are, but I don't have to 1048 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,000 Speaker 3: know that there's a puppet master. I don't have to 1049 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 3: see the fire if I can smell the smoke. And 1050 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 3: so I'm going to react. 1051 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 4: To it, and I'll quickly give you a quick, quick, 1052 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 4: short story about it, because you just reminded me of something. 1053 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,440 Speaker 4: And again, I neither one of us want to be conspiracists. 1054 00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not into conspiracy theories. But in Australia, 1055 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 4: and in Sydney in particular, we had one individual who 1056 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 4: brought COVID into Australia by virtue of being. 1057 00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 2: A high car driver who picked up. 1058 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 4: Some people who were from an airline. They were like 1059 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 4: in a pilots and stuff like that, and had to 1060 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 4: drive them to a hotel. 1061 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 2: And those individuals had COVID. 1062 00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 4: And this particular driver stopped in a shop rand here 1063 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 4: where I lived and to buy coffee. And when the 1064 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 4: individual was in their coffee shop, I went into that 1065 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 4: coffee shop to dout myself coffee because I was going 1066 00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 4: to my farm. 1067 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 1: I was on the way. They put I just went 1068 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 1: to the takeaway and OK. 1069 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:15,640 Speaker 2: When the farm came back. 1070 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 4: Two days later, I I was getting these random phone 1071 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 4: calls by a private number, and someone had an actually 1072 00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,200 Speaker 4: American accent on the things, saying. 1073 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: That I needed to call them. 1074 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:23,719 Speaker 2: I just ignore them. 1075 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 4: In the next thing, that day, the police turned up 1076 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 4: to my house and they said, you need to call 1077 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 4: this number that's been calling you. 1078 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: And they knew me. 1079 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 4: I knew the cops, and I said okay, and they 1080 00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 4: said it's the Department of Health. So I rang the 1081 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 4: health department and they said, well, you know, you're now 1082 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,759 Speaker 4: quarantined for forteen days because you were outside the shop. 1083 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,359 Speaker 4: I said, how do you even know I was there? 1084 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 4: They said, you pay by your credit card. We rang 1085 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,319 Speaker 4: your bank, and we were the banks and got the 1086 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 4: which we got all the bank details, and we rang 1087 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 4: every single person we there, so I had who went 1088 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 4: and bought coffee from a credit card. 1089 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,319 Speaker 1: I wasn't even in the shop. I was outside of the shop. 1090 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:56,839 Speaker 4: I remember the dude in it because I remember hearing 1091 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:03,240 Speaker 4: in cough. I got locked in my house for fourteen days. 1092 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 4: It wasn't that bad. But you know, I'm luck. You're 1093 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 4: live in a nice place, blah blah. But I can't 1094 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 4: imagine want to be like if I live in a 1095 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 4: one bit of a probably like your family did when 1096 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 4: you first came to fact to America, you know, with 1097 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 4: a couple of kids, and you know, blah blah blah. 1098 00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 4: But I'm lucky. But still I was still at my house. 1099 00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 4: They would ring me every single day, the health department 1100 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 4: every day to check in to check up, check where 1101 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,560 Speaker 4: I was. And one day I thought I decided to 1102 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 4: turn my my location services off on my phone that 1103 00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 4: often the police called up. 1104 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 2: Imagine that, And I thought to himself. 1105 00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:33,920 Speaker 4: Now at the time, it was sort of not that 1106 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 4: big a deal. Like I just thought it was a 1107 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 4: bit annoying. But you know, now post COVID and post 1108 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 4: all these bloody vaccinations that we had to get in 1109 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 4: order to travel. I think to myself that was really 1110 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,080 Speaker 4: worth stealing my my freedom absolutely. 1111 00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 2: You know. 1112 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,280 Speaker 3: It was like if your sovereignty was your sovereignty was 1113 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 3: was eroded. 1114 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 4: If I had the flu, I'm still free to go 1115 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 4: to coffee. My responsibilities marked don't go to work, or 1116 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 4: don't be close to someone, or lock yourself up at 1117 00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,680 Speaker 4: the office, but not I'm going to get the police 1118 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 4: to make sure you stay home. And I think a 1119 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 4: lot of people around the world have realized are starting 1120 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 4: to realize I should say this outcome. And I think 1121 00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:14,120 Speaker 4: there are a lot of people around the world who 1122 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,200 Speaker 4: want to take more control of over our what you 1123 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,760 Speaker 4: call sovereignty, our. 1124 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 1: Rights, our actual rights. 1125 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 4: I mean, you guys got you guys got something at 1126 00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,239 Speaker 4: a Manae, your constitution giving people human rights. We don't 1127 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,719 Speaker 4: have that in Australia. We don't actually have a Bill 1128 00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 4: of human rights. We don't have that, which is scary 1129 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 4: to me. 1130 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 2: It's very scary. 1131 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,720 Speaker 4: And in each state of Australia they can operate differently. 1132 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 4: So in the United States at least things are more uniform. 1133 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,840 Speaker 4: And I often want to myself where we're going with 1134 00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 4: all this and what are our kids going to how 1135 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 4: our kids going to live their lives and our grandkids 1136 00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 4: going to live their lives? And I guess that you know, 1137 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 4: a person like you putting yourself out there having a 1138 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 4: YouTube series to talk about this sort of stuff is 1139 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 4: sort of fairly courageous because you know, people come after you. 1140 00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:58,839 Speaker 2: Sure I get my fair share of death threat. 1141 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you do it. Yeah, And in America you 1142 00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:02,800 Speaker 4: got to take that stuff. 1143 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,799 Speaker 3: Very seriously, seriously, and we have precautions for it, you do, 1144 00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:06,439 Speaker 3: he goes. 1145 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 4: You know, Australia, we don't we don't have gun. People 1146 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 4: don't have guns, and we have you know, there's laws 1147 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,359 Speaker 4: around possessing a Firearm's not that easy to get a gun, 1148 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,879 Speaker 4: mind you. You know, people getting stabbed the left fronts 1149 00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 4: and there's no rules about getting. 1150 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 3: So and they take away knives. People will get run over, 1151 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:20,439 Speaker 3: my cars totally old. 1152 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: That'll each other back of the able to battle or 1153 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,399 Speaker 1: something like that. 1154 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,280 Speaker 4: So you know, so I think it's a really courageous 1155 00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,439 Speaker 4: thing you're doing. Like, you know, having a YouTube series 1156 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 4: is called what's it called? 1157 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 2: It's just a bedroom's cooling your night? 1158 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 1: And how many episodes you've done. 1159 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,959 Speaker 3: We are now ninety four episodes in and the show 1160 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,080 Speaker 3: has blown up, which is what what made me come 1161 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,520 Speaker 3: to Australia in the first place. When Rob Theo and 1162 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 3: his wife who you know well, they found my show. 1163 00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,279 Speaker 3: They resonated with the messages said you have to come 1164 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,880 Speaker 3: out and speak in our three three cities Melbourne, Brisbane 1165 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 3: and Sydney. And so this is why I'm here. And 1166 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,520 Speaker 3: while I'm grateful for it, I hope we reach a 1167 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 3: time where my message. I hope I never have to 1168 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 3: do my show. I hope reach a time where there's 1169 00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 3: so much freedom and sovereignty that we don't have to 1170 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,799 Speaker 3: worry about big government oppressing us and forget about us. 1171 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 3: I'm worried about my kids, my grandkids. How much tighter 1172 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 3: is the noose around their neck going to get? Before? 1173 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 3: You know, Like yesterday, were at a nice restaurant. I 1174 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:22,880 Speaker 3: order a nice ribbi wagou a five steak? Are my 1175 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 3: kids going to be eating dehydrated grasshopper? Their kids gonna 1176 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,760 Speaker 3: be eat like what are they going to eat? 1177 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 2: Right? 1178 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,080 Speaker 3: I don't want that for them. I am the American 1179 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 3: dream and I believe my father bringing me here like 1180 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 3: he risked his life. I have to risk my life 1181 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,759 Speaker 3: in saving and supporting the American dream. And I know, 1182 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 3: whether you live in Sydney, Australia or if you live 1183 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 3: in Paris, France, the American dream is a worldwide phenomenon 1184 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,040 Speaker 3: and I have to support that. 1185 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh. For Australians. 1186 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 4: We look up to Americans because of the American Dream. 1187 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 4: We follow you TV show as we follow. But everything 1188 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 4: you guys do, we tend to do here in Australia. 1189 00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,120 Speaker 4: The problem is now we're tending to follow some of 1190 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 4: the stuff that's happening in America relative to politics right, 1191 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,839 Speaker 4: and you know, we are getting the divide between left 1192 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 4: and right, and it's neantly like you have to make 1193 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 4: a decision. It's nearly like in this country today you 1194 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:14,560 Speaker 4: must make a decision. 1195 00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,040 Speaker 1: You're either left or you're right. 1196 00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:17,200 Speaker 2: Mark. That's unfortunate, you. 1197 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,680 Speaker 1: Know, But I shouldn't have to make this. Don't want 1198 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,160 Speaker 1: to be in the middle. 1199 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 4: Do you think there'll be some stage a political party 1200 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 4: that will come up and say, look, we're called the moderates, 1201 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 4: so we're called the middle parties some along those lines 1202 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,600 Speaker 4: and actually garner all of those of everybody and actually 1203 00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 4: take on the left and the right, someone right down 1204 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 4: the middle. 1205 00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 2: I think we're getting there. I think we're getting there. 1206 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,320 Speaker 3: I think that here's what's happening, because of inflation, because 1207 00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 3: of high interest rates. And now, as you see, everyone 1208 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,880 Speaker 3: is experiencing the financial burden of this. No matter how 1209 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,919 Speaker 3: left you are, how extreme you are, how liberal you are, 1210 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 3: you're experiencing the financial burden. And for the first time 1211 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 3: people are realizing that, you know what, I'm left, extreme left, 1212 00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 3: but I'm barely able to pay my rent, my car note, 1213 00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,720 Speaker 3: all these things. Maybe I need to come more center. 1214 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:01,960 Speaker 2: Now. 1215 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,920 Speaker 3: I'm not saying right, because the right has its own 1216 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 3: issues as well. YEA, somewhere in the center is where 1217 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 3: the rest of us want to live. And I believe 1218 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 3: there's like seventy percent of us seventy seventy five eighty 1219 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:13,439 Speaker 3: percent of us are in the middle, and then there's 1220 00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 3: a ten percent fifteen percent on either side that are 1221 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:19,440 Speaker 3: going batshit crazy. Yet they are the loudest, they are 1222 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 3: the most vocal, and it is amplified by social media. 1223 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 3: And therefore we feel that the whole world is divided, 1224 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 3: and what do we naturally want to do as humans? Anyway, 1225 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 3: Like you said, the game is happening tonight. We want 1226 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 3: to divide into teams, and so they're using our natural 1227 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 3: instinctive desire to divide into teake trouble to be tribal. 1228 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,880 Speaker 3: And if we can divide men by you are pro vaccine, 1229 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 3: you are not pro vaccine. You're pro gay, You're not 1230 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 3: pro gay. You're pro police, you're not pro po prob. Yeah, 1231 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,840 Speaker 3: there's so many pros and cons. We can divide in 1232 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 3: faction that small clusters of men can do nothing. And 1233 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,480 Speaker 3: when men come together as a tribe, we are invincible. 1234 00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:59,560 Speaker 1: So in that regard, how do you keep their energy up? 1235 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,080 Speaker 4: You've got this business called Fit Body boot Camp, So 1236 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,160 Speaker 4: did you do that initially to keep your own fitness up? 1237 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the deal there? 1238 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 4: Because I mean because for me, I cannot operate unless 1239 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 4: I feel physically fit. Right, if I feel like shit, 1240 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 4: I will operate like shit. So I have to force 1241 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 4: myself on a routine. I have a really like I 1242 00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 4: can't live without my routine. Like last week, I had 1243 00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 4: to do a bit of traveling. 1244 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: I was in hotels, various other things that just like 1245 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: the gym, whole scene wasn't right for me. At the 1246 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: end of the week. I wasn't depressed, but I felt a. 1247 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,919 Speaker 4: Little bit flat. And I'm so good, I'm so glad 1248 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 4: to be back into my routine. What's your fit body 1249 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 4: boot camp? What's that about? 1250 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 2: And how does your routine look? 1251 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 3: So I used to be a fat, overweat young man, 1252 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,760 Speaker 3: really even throughout high school. No, yeah, yeah, yeah, true story, 1253 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,160 Speaker 3: true story. Being an immigrant to this country. My mom 1254 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 3: would fry everything, and we need it. So it was 1255 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 3: like fried bread, fright, potato. 1256 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 4: That's how you eat. That would but that'd be working 1257 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:58,960 Speaker 4: in the fields or something that'd be. 1258 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, except I wasn't working in the fields, because now 1259 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 3: it's nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty five, nineteen ninety right as, 1260 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 3: I was a fat kid. And thankfully, in one of 1261 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 3: my high school classes, in science class, there was an athlete. 1262 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:11,960 Speaker 3: He played football. His name is Dave. I said, David, 1263 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 3: you're in great shape, man. You have muscles, you have confidence, 1264 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 3: you have swagger. He wouldn't talk to me outside of 1265 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 3: the class because he was with the athletes and the jocks, 1266 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 3: the musicians were over here and the fat You know, 1267 01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 3: I wasn't even a nerd, so I can't even say 1268 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 3: I had good grades and the nerds hung out over there. 1269 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,360 Speaker 3: The foreign fat kid would just walk around. I hated 1270 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 3: lunch in high school because there you go, that's that 1271 01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:32,680 Speaker 3: was me, always one of them. 1272 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can really and I do believe that. 1273 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 3: I also put a chip on my shoulder to help 1274 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 3: me become who I am to chips help, by the way, absolutely, 1275 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,080 Speaker 3: And so Dave was kind enough to take me to 1276 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 3: the school gym and he taught me how to work out, 1277 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,200 Speaker 3: taught me how to eat. Right next next year I 1278 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 3: come back, which is my final year of high school. 1279 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 3: I'm thirty pounds lighter, more fit, more charismatic, more confidence, 1280 01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 3: making eye contact with people, getting noticed for the first time, 1281 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,640 Speaker 3: as though I never went to school there, right, I 1282 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 3: was invisible for three years. I'm in visible. So I realized, Man, 1283 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,680 Speaker 3: I love what fitness did for me. I want to 1284 01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 3: be a personal trainer and I want to have others 1285 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 3: achieve and experience this transformation. So that led me to 1286 01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 3: becoming a personal trainer. That led me to starting a 1287 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 3: group training program called fit Body boot Camp. And now 1288 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 3: we have hundreds of locations between the US and Canada, 1289 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 3: over three hundred and fifty locations and growing. Yeah, it's 1290 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 3: a fitness franchise. And to me, if I can keep 1291 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 3: my if I can have good mental, physical and emotional hygiene, 1292 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 3: I am invincible and so to me. Even this morning, 1293 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,560 Speaker 3: I woke up, I went through my morning routine. I 1294 01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 3: worked out, and I will work out again tonight before 1295 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 3: I go to bed. I have two workouts a day. 1296 01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 3: I shield myself from the outside noise that I don't 1297 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 3: want to subscribe to. I travel with only the people 1298 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 3: who are positive in terms of contribution to my life. 1299 01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 3: And I'm very vigilant with how I live my life. 1300 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 3: You know, hey, be strict, very strict, to the point 1301 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 3: of militant. 1302 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1303 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 3: And the older I get, the more militant I become. 1304 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,080 Speaker 3: You're sixty eight, I'm forty nine. As you said. You said, hey, 1305 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 3: I wasn't depressed when I came back home, but you 1306 01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 3: said I was flat. 1307 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1308 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,320 Speaker 3: Here I am in beautiful Sydney. I'm flying to Melbourne tonight, 1309 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,520 Speaker 3: going to Brisbane after that, and back to Sydney and 1310 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 3: then back to California. I can't wait to get home 1311 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,200 Speaker 3: and get back to my routine, get back to my routine. 1312 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 3: The more predictable my life is, and people ask me well, 1313 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 3: whereas the spontaneity, I don't have spontaneity. I don't want spontaneity. 1314 01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 3: I want a predictable, happy, successful, healthy life and that's 1315 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 3: what I have. 1316 01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 4: So how important, then, therefore, do you think for others 1317 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 4: if you could share this is a routine and structure 1318 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,400 Speaker 4: within your life. Like in terms of the people keep 1319 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 4: saying to me mindset mindset. For me, mindset means about 1320 01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 4: structuring something and structuring my mind in a certain way. 1321 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,440 Speaker 4: And the only thing I can think of is routine. 1322 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 4: I can't think of much more. I mean routine to 1323 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,080 Speaker 4: do different things. And I go, I'm a bit like yourself. 1324 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,400 Speaker 4: I'm extreme. I get right down to the time I 1325 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 4: got a bit at night. Not able unless we want 1326 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 4: to go to something that's like a functions something. It's 1327 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 4: normally goes if I'm home, what I actually do before 1328 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 4: I go to sleep. You know, there's a few things 1329 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:09,880 Speaker 4: like routines that go through to make sure that I'm 1330 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:11,920 Speaker 4: in a sleep mode, what time I wake up in 1331 01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,640 Speaker 4: the morning, even down to the point which gym. 1332 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Or gym's I go to. 1333 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 4: I noticed you'd For those who don't know, Vedros his 1334 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,560 Speaker 4: team reached out to me before he came here and 1335 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 4: he wanted to go to some practice jiu jitsu when 1336 01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 4: the place I recommended is a jiu jitsu dash wrestling 1337 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 4: sort of places in MMA place, which he did. He's 1338 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 4: been there already, He's only been there a few days. 1339 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 4: That's that's sort of to me. 1340 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,600 Speaker 2: Extreme routine commitment. 1341 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will keep that extreme. I mean you 1342 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 3: what you described is like my morning starts the night before. Yeah, 1343 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 3: what time I go to bed, what little rituals I 1344 01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 3: go through, the hot tub, the tea one episode or 1345 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 3: the TV show that my my wife and I watch. 1346 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 2: All of it watching. What are you watching? 1347 01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 3: We're we're currently watching Oh geez, what is the name 1348 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:02,959 Speaker 3: of the show. 1349 01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Is it comedy or is it drama? 1350 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 2: No? No, I hate, I hate drama. I love. 1351 01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,480 Speaker 3: We just finished watching right now, the fourth and final, sorry, 1352 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 3: the third part of Arnold's documentary on Netflix. 1353 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 2: Yah. 1354 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,919 Speaker 3: But previous to that, we were watching VEEP. So what's 1355 01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:26,520 Speaker 3: the VAP bet Julia Julia Luis dreyfus So, the woman 1356 01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,920 Speaker 3: who was on Seinfeld. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she is the 1357 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,480 Speaker 3: VEEP Vice President of the United States. She's hilarious. 1358 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 2: It is just foul. 1359 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 3: It is banana she can't wait for the president to 1360 01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:40,320 Speaker 3: die for her to step into his shoes, And every 1361 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,280 Speaker 3: time she gets a call, she's hoping that the president 1362 01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 3: is dead. Oh he's in the hospital. Well, I will 1363 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 3: be there to see him, to give my condolences. I 1364 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:48,600 Speaker 3: mean to make sure he's doing well. And so I 1365 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,520 Speaker 3: love good comedies, but we again make sure that we 1366 01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 3: only watched one episode and not go down the drain 1367 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:56,600 Speaker 3: of you known watching an entire season. 1368 01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 4: It's funny because I did the same sort of thing, 1369 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 4: but I something neutral to neutralize my thought processes. 1370 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what about meditation. 1371 01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,840 Speaker 3: I love meditating. So in the mornings, I'll meditate. I'll 1372 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 3: drink thirty ounces of water. I'll even turn on how. 1373 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: Much is thirty ounced water is? 1374 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:12,920 Speaker 2: It's a better liter. 1375 01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,360 Speaker 3: Thirty ounces of water is Oh gosh, it's a fourth 1376 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 3: of a gallon. 1377 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,640 Speaker 4: Quarter of a gallon, gallons quarters eight pints, So it's 1378 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 4: two pints, which is close to a LITERA yeah, yeah, 1379 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 4: that's a lot of water. 1380 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:27,080 Speaker 2: That's it. 1381 01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, within within thirty minutes of waking up, I've 1382 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,400 Speaker 3: I've drink the thirty ounces of water. I've sent out 1383 01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,919 Speaker 3: three gratitude text messages to whom to three random people 1384 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,000 Speaker 3: in my life that I'm grateful for, Yeah, who have 1385 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,160 Speaker 3: helped me. Could be Jim Franco, my first mentor it 1386 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 3: could be someone you know, one of my business partners, 1387 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 3: could be my wife, anyone that I'm grateful for. I 1388 01:05:45,080 --> 01:05:46,920 Speaker 3: make sure to put myself in a state of gratitude. 1389 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 3: You know this as an entrepreneur. No matter how structured 1390 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,840 Speaker 3: your day is, you're going to get a caller, a text, or. 1391 01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:53,400 Speaker 2: An email that's going to going to piss you off. 1392 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,479 Speaker 3: It's going to piss you off, so make you feel 1393 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,680 Speaker 3: like shit exactly. So again, remember we were talking about 1394 01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:01,320 Speaker 3: creating that win win scenario. The most selfish thing we 1395 01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 3: can do. Well, if I send Mark a gratitude text 1396 01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 3: message when I wake up sometime throughout his day, Mark's 1397 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 3: going to send me a thank you message. And I 1398 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,560 Speaker 3: don't know why the universe works this way, but that 1399 01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 3: thank you message for me will come exactly when I 1400 01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:18,120 Speaker 3: needed it, when I needed to hear it, because something's 1401 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,200 Speaker 3: going wrong in my business or in my life, which 1402 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:22,480 Speaker 3: is normal. Like I love chaos, and my problem is 1403 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:24,960 Speaker 3: to fixed chaos faster than they can produce itself. That's 1404 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:27,800 Speaker 3: what entrepreneurs do with fixed problems faster than problems can reproduce. 1405 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 3: And so the most selfish thing I can do is 1406 01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,600 Speaker 3: send gratitude text messages because that guarantees me three positive 1407 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 3: text messages every single day. 1408 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:35,800 Speaker 1: And you can bank them. 1409 01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 2: I can bank them. Yeah, that's it. It's currency. Yeah. 1410 01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 3: I listened to Jack Johnson's music while I'm showering because 1411 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 3: I happen. 1412 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 4: To object for ies. But whatever happened to Jack? I 1413 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 4: think you dot and not many new albums out. 1414 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 2: I love youself now. 1415 01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 3: Every now and again he'll randomly just put something out. 1416 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 3: But he does a concert once a year where I 1417 01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 3: surf in Dana Point, California, and so I always go 1418 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,600 Speaker 3: to you know the family, and I go to see him. 1419 01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 3: I love his music makes me happy, right, talk about 1420 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,920 Speaker 3: something neutral makes me happy. Then I'll go downstairs meditate 1421 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 3: for about fifteen minutes, and then I attack my work. 1422 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,240 Speaker 3: And I say, I use the word attack. I know 1423 01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,960 Speaker 3: it sounds extreme, but I attack my work. And as 1424 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 3: Joan is sitting there, she'll tell you money tasks first, 1425 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,600 Speaker 3: things that will make money first, and then I'll start 1426 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 3: solving problems that have come through the night via email 1427 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,800 Speaker 3: for my chain of command, my team members, et cetera. 1428 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,160 Speaker 3: And then I go to the gym, get my workout in, 1429 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:24,720 Speaker 3: go outside and walk for about three miles at the 1430 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,439 Speaker 3: local park, and then I'll go to headquarters by twelve noon, 1431 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 3: and then my second half of the day starts. So 1432 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,240 Speaker 3: part part one of my day starts at home. Part 1433 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,320 Speaker 3: two starts at headquarters, and I might coach or consult 1434 01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 3: some coaching clients. I might make some big decisions or 1435 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,520 Speaker 3: small decisions, a series of small decisions, or I might 1436 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,959 Speaker 3: make a few episodes of my podcast show. By six pm, 1437 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,919 Speaker 3: I'm at home and his family time, and my phone 1438 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 3: notifications are off because even if the building at home 1439 01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 3: at work catches fire, I'm not a firefighter. What can 1440 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 3: I do other than worry about it? So I'll find 1441 01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,680 Speaker 3: out in the morning when my CEO tells me. 1442 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,480 Speaker 4: It's very, very disciplined, and is this seven dyes away? 1443 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,800 Speaker 4: I mean, do you have a bad food in terms. 1444 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 3: Of I just follow my macros in terms of food, 1445 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 3: so my proteins, fats, and carbs, so I'll have about 1446 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:14,520 Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty grams of protein per day. I 1447 01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 3: break it up into four meals. I can't six seven meals. 1448 01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 3: I don't have time for two hundred and fifty grams 1449 01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,040 Speaker 3: of protein a day, about one hundred and fifty to 1450 01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:23,560 Speaker 3: two hundred grams of carbs a day, and sixty to 1451 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,920 Speaker 3: eighty grams of fat a day. And usually the fat 1452 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,920 Speaker 3: will come from olive oil, avocado. 1453 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 2: Et cetera. And I love routine. I love routine. I 1454 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:31,920 Speaker 2: love routine. 1455 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,960 Speaker 3: Now, yesterday we went and had steak, Like I said, 1456 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 3: I got a little dessert. I got sherbert sorbet as 1457 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,760 Speaker 3: they all might say. And I had a little bite, 1458 01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 3: a couple of bites, and I pushed a plate away. 1459 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,640 Speaker 3: I'm a fat kid, so I could eat every I 1460 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 3: don't have an off button, so I have to deliberately go. 1461 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 3: And that's why I have to be disciplined. I have 1462 01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 3: to be structured. I have to be militant. I can eat, 1463 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 3: I can out eat anybody, and I can out lazy anybody. 1464 01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,960 Speaker 3: But I love financial freedom, I love serving humanity so much. 1465 01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 3: I love being fit and athletics so much that I 1466 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 3: have to be this disciplined, in this militant, and I 1467 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,040 Speaker 3: do it seven days a week. Like why on the 1468 01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:09,439 Speaker 3: weekends would I wake up and be lazy wake up late, 1469 01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:11,960 Speaker 3: be lazy, only to set myself up to lose on 1470 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 3: a Monday. Because think how quickly our body builds habits 1471 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 3: and patterns. So if I'm lazy on Saturday and I 1472 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:19,439 Speaker 3: get a little drunk and tipsy, and on Sunday I 1473 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,320 Speaker 3: sleep in, I get a little drunk and tipsy, Monday 1474 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,519 Speaker 3: arguably the busiest day for an entrepreneur. Now I'm at 1475 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 3: a deficit. I don't want that difference is on the weekends, 1476 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm not working eight nine hours, but I'll work a 1477 01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,320 Speaker 3: couple hours before the family wakes up, still be productive, 1478 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 3: still feel some self worth, and then go out there 1479 01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,599 Speaker 3: and have fun with the family, whether it's surfing or whatever. 1480 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,280 Speaker 4: And in terms of sleep, for those are listening, there's 1481 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:44,640 Speaker 4: a lot of people in business find it to be 1482 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,360 Speaker 4: able to sleep. 1483 01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,120 Speaker 1: What's your sleep mantra? 1484 01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,920 Speaker 4: So we listen to pay Tay and Andrew Hoodman and 1485 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,200 Speaker 4: various other people like Simon Hill in Australia. You know 1486 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,160 Speaker 4: you got to get between seven night hours and it's 1487 01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:57,400 Speaker 4: going to. 1488 01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Be a certain top of sleep. What's your sleep regime 1489 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: will and a strategy look like. 1490 01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:06,720 Speaker 3: So as early as eight seven, eight years ago, I 1491 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,479 Speaker 3: would function with four to five hours of sleep, and 1492 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 3: I almost scoffed in anybody who would get seven or 1493 01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 3: eight hours of sleep today, at forty nine years old, 1494 01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 3: I require seven to eight hours of sleep, and that's 1495 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,160 Speaker 3: a non negotiable. I stopped drinking alcohol two years ago 1496 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 3: simply because it interrupted my sleep pattern. And I was 1497 01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,160 Speaker 3: not a addict where alcoholic. I would have a couple 1498 01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,120 Speaker 3: of cocktails here and there. But I noticed as I 1499 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,519 Speaker 3: got older, I would feel a little foggy. It would interrupt 1500 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,760 Speaker 3: my sleep. It wasn't a deep sleep. I like to 1501 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 3: eat earlier in the day instead of a you know, 1502 01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 3: our culture especially, we like to eat at eight thirty 1503 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,439 Speaker 3: nine pm. Right, Well, shoot, I got to be in 1504 01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 3: bed by ten o'clock. Man, I can't do that. I 1505 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,280 Speaker 3: like to eat at six pm for dinner. And so 1506 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 3: I've adjusted my my eating, my alcohol, et cetera, to 1507 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 3: help me sleep deeper and longer at night, which makes 1508 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 3: me more productive. I know if it's a by product 1509 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:03,719 Speaker 3: of getting older, or if all those years of sleeping 1510 01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 3: four or five hours have now cut up with me, 1511 01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:07,200 Speaker 3: but I require my sleep. 1512 01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 4: It's funny, you know, during that younger years, I mean, 1513 01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 4: I experienced the same thing. It was like you it 1514 01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:16,440 Speaker 4: was like a superpower of people who are good entrepreneurs 1515 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 4: to be able to go without sleep. 1516 01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:19,800 Speaker 2: In other words, how do you do it? 1517 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 4: You get four or five hours sleep at night, yet 1518 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,360 Speaker 4: you can work, you know, fourteen fifteen hours a day. 1519 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,400 Speaker 4: And I actually think it was all bullshit. I actually 1520 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 4: don't think. I don't believe anyone has said it. I 1521 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 4: mean I used to do it, but I would then 1522 01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,519 Speaker 4: crash eat seven days. And these people used to say 1523 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 4: to me, I know, I never did that. I see 1524 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 4: four or five hours, you know, and I've been doing 1525 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 4: it for years. I just I don't know. I now 1526 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,680 Speaker 4: think I don't believe them because it is like a 1527 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 4: bit of a superpower sort of, you know, I'm a 1528 01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 4: professor of business, so to speak. This is what they're 1529 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 4: trying to tell us, and that they're better than all 1530 01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 4: of us, which you make you feel like shit. Then 1531 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 4: you start saying, well, what's wrong with you? 1532 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 2: You're pussy? 1533 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,280 Speaker 4: Why can't you operate on mark on four or five 1534 01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 4: hours sleep a night for the last twenty years. 1535 01:11:59,120 --> 01:11:59,920 Speaker 1: Well, because no one does. 1536 01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,400 Speaker 2: I don't think. I think it's all bullshit. 1537 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:03,400 Speaker 3: I really think it is. And it catches up with 1538 01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 3: you sooner or later. Yeah, And there's literally pictures of 1539 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 3: me from ten years ago. People see it, they go, 1540 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 3: oh my god, you look so old there, I look 1541 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,840 Speaker 3: younger today ten years later. And I do believe it's 1542 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,200 Speaker 3: one stress management, but two I'm getting I'm getting better 1543 01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 3: and longer sleep. 1544 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,479 Speaker 4: And how does nutrition fit into all these things? Like so, 1545 01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,800 Speaker 4: you did talk about, you know, the three things you 1546 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,519 Speaker 4: want to have in terms of protein, fats, and cabs 1547 01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:28,600 Speaker 4: and that was pretty precision based. In other words, you 1548 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:34,280 Speaker 4: have a formula around it. But we keep getting told that, 1549 01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,040 Speaker 4: you know, the so called Mediterranean diet is the best 1550 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 4: die in the world, et cetera. How do you actually 1551 01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,840 Speaker 4: formulate what you actually put in front of yourself or 1552 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,400 Speaker 4: what your family has for that matter, I mean, because 1553 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 4: you know your kids are a little so like you know, 1554 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 4: do you eversit around, enjoy what your kids are enjoying, 1555 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 4: or do you try to get the whole family into 1556 01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:50,799 Speaker 4: one regime. 1557 01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:55,040 Speaker 3: We my wife and I brainwashed our kids early on today, 1558 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,720 Speaker 3: Like I said, Andrews eighteen, Chloe is sixteen. They have 1559 01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,800 Speaker 3: yet to be inside of a McDonald's. They've never seen 1560 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 3: me out of the McDonald's. They've never seen a McDonald's 1561 01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,919 Speaker 3: or any fast food restaurant commercial on television. 1562 01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,080 Speaker 2: Now, because we never had regular. 1563 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,560 Speaker 3: Television, I would realize I was brainwashed by television. I 1564 01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,760 Speaker 3: would watch Night Rider and a Team, and then I 1565 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 3: would see commercials and I would eat frosted flakes and 1566 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:15,719 Speaker 3: sugar Laiden cereal. 1567 01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:16,800 Speaker 2: And so I. 1568 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,680 Speaker 3: Realized television is a source of influence. And so if 1569 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,960 Speaker 3: I can control the influence that my kids are seeing, 1570 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,080 Speaker 3: and I can build a pattern of working out today. 1571 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,240 Speaker 3: So I started taking Andrew and Chloe to the gym 1572 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 3: when they were five six years old. And today when 1573 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 3: I'm traveling, my son will text me, Dad, what's a 1574 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:34,640 Speaker 3: good backworkout? 1575 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 2: What's a good leg workout? I could do? 1576 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 3: They're addicted, just like I came here today and thank 1577 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 3: you for introducing me to Larry right jiu jitsu, Like 1578 01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,240 Speaker 3: I can't break my routine just because I'm traveling, and 1579 01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,360 Speaker 3: so I still eat the same way. I still train this. 1580 01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 3: I have to get my two sessions a week of 1581 01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 3: jiu jitsu in because I'm so new to it that 1582 01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 3: I will forget. 1583 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 2: I will forget. 1584 01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:59,439 Speaker 1: I just just took about that for me. How easy 1585 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:01,759 Speaker 1: is it? As we get older, oh man, to forget 1586 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:03,280 Speaker 1: what they showed you. 1587 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,479 Speaker 3: What do they say? They say youth is wasted on 1588 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 3: the young. 1589 01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:08,639 Speaker 4: My god, like, like they get your in a position 1590 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,360 Speaker 4: and you know you're. 1591 01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: Supposed to do something you can't remember. 1592 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:13,200 Speaker 2: I can't remember. 1593 01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 4: I mean I could learn it last week. I could 1594 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 4: literally learn it last week. And if they teach me 1595 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,880 Speaker 4: too many things in one session, I'm just saying to 1596 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 4: just do keep him saying, just give me two things. Oh. 1597 01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,200 Speaker 4: And I lay in bed the next before I go 1598 01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,559 Speaker 4: the next time, and I'm thinking, thinking, hang on a minute, 1599 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 4: I haven't thought about this. 1600 01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:30,559 Speaker 1: Since the last my last session. What did he say? 1601 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Where's my lego? Where's my mum? 1602 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 4: Go? 1603 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:33,639 Speaker 1: It seems to be crazy. 1604 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:37,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I think Larry, he's so knowledgeable. 1605 01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:43,560 Speaker 3: He he knows more than I'll ever acquire. And I 1606 01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,920 Speaker 3: think he wanted to impress us with how much. I said, Larry, 1607 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,759 Speaker 3: just show us two things. And he showed us two things. 1608 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 3: And I said, I'd rather just drill this for the 1609 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:53,280 Speaker 3: rest of the ninety minutes that we have with you, 1610 01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,479 Speaker 3: and then roll after that, then learn four or five things. 1611 01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,880 Speaker 3: Then I'll mix them all up and know nothing but 1612 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,240 Speaker 3: jiu jitsu it is a human chess scheme. And I'll 1613 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 3: find myself doing step one and two and then I'll 1614 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,879 Speaker 3: pause and I'm thinking, and I could see my opponent 1615 01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 3: looking down at me, like seeing the wheel spin. If 1616 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:12,720 Speaker 3: there was any one thing I wish I would have 1617 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:15,559 Speaker 3: started sooner in life, it would be jiu jitsu. 1618 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:20,679 Speaker 4: It's funny, there's something about it. It's not really fighting. 1619 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:23,800 Speaker 4: It's sort of a combination of different things. But it's 1620 01:15:23,880 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 4: kind of a brain game and begetting your body to 1621 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 4: do the thing that your brain wants it to do. 1622 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:34,559 Speaker 4: And I find it quite cognitively important because someone gets you, 1623 01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:37,760 Speaker 4: especially you know, when you're one of the worst in 1624 01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,840 Speaker 4: the class and definitely the oldest. Someone gets you in 1625 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,400 Speaker 4: a position you've got to think, well, I know how 1626 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,000 Speaker 4: to get I've got out of this before. 1627 01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:47,600 Speaker 1: I know what I got to do. 1628 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 2: But then you've got to make your body do it. 1629 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:50,639 Speaker 2: It's a bit weird. 1630 01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,240 Speaker 4: Your body's not going to do it as we get 1631 01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 4: on when you're when you're twenty, you would have been 1632 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,880 Speaker 4: to do it, no worries. You get an arm by 1633 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,280 Speaker 4: something because you throw your legs up and grub But like, 1634 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 4: I know what to do a lot of times, but 1635 01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 4: I just my body just won't do it. 1636 01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 1: And I think that's a really important thing as we 1637 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 1: get older to. 1638 01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 4: For our mobility, and I think it's why people fall 1639 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 4: over as I get older. 1640 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:10,879 Speaker 2: I agree. 1641 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 4: They know that they should be negotiating a certain thing 1642 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 4: in a certain way when they're walking somewhere, maybe with 1643 01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,080 Speaker 4: a bag, or they could be carrying a grain kid 1644 01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:20,639 Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be, but they just can't 1645 01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,200 Speaker 4: do the thing they know should do. That's the reason 1646 01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,040 Speaker 4: I do it now at my age. 1647 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:26,160 Speaker 2: Now, that's exactly it. 1648 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,600 Speaker 3: And I realized that I'm not going to stretch and 1649 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,839 Speaker 3: do mobility, but if I do jiu jitsu, it forces 1650 01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,720 Speaker 3: me to stretch do mobility, and as you said, cognitively, 1651 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,360 Speaker 3: it connects my mind and body together in a way 1652 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,720 Speaker 3: that I don't think if there's anything else out there 1653 01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,000 Speaker 3: that I'd be interested in doing that would connect my 1654 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 3: mind and body together that way. 1655 01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 1: It's funny the stretch thing. 1656 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,920 Speaker 4: You're right, it's not a thing that I forces to stretch, 1657 01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 4: doesn't it. 1658 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't really dig it that much. 1659 01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,719 Speaker 4: I mean, like I did the yog for a little while, 1660 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,719 Speaker 4: mainly because my part of the time she was yoga teacher, 1661 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:57,080 Speaker 4: but it's. 1662 01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 1: Not something that really gets me. 1663 01:16:58,760 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 2: Now. 1664 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to be And this. 1665 01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,960 Speaker 4: Sounds a bit sexist, but I don't really want to 1666 01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 4: be in a class for a whole lot of girls 1667 01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,280 Speaker 4: and I'm the only dude, and there I feel a 1668 01:17:06,280 --> 01:17:09,080 Speaker 4: bit weird. I think yo is great, but it's just 1669 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,120 Speaker 4: I just don't feel comfortable doing it. I'd rather just 1670 01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,920 Speaker 4: roll around the joint like you, like we're saying in 1671 01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,720 Speaker 4: jiu jitsu, and get put into weird positions. 1672 01:17:16,280 --> 01:17:19,000 Speaker 1: And have to move my body around. And I think that. 1673 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 4: People listening to this these are new things, like jiu 1674 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,360 Speaker 4: jitsu is relatively speaking new things. 1675 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean don't know why. 1676 01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 4: What he's done is brilliantly by introducing UFC to the 1677 01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,360 Speaker 4: world and all of us now seeing jiu jitsu. We 1678 01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,240 Speaker 4: would never seen it unless we went to the Olympics 1679 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 4: and watch the judo or the wrestling or something. But 1680 01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, these are new things that have 1681 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,320 Speaker 4: been put in front of us, and they're very accessible. 1682 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 4: I don't know your country, bit. In this country, my god, 1683 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,920 Speaker 4: there are so many jiu jitsu gyms in this country. 1684 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,759 Speaker 4: They're everywhere, and it's crazy for us not to access 1685 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,599 Speaker 4: these things for the benefits we get out of it 1686 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,280 Speaker 4: and make it part of our routine, which makes it 1687 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,000 Speaker 4: part of our structure, which helps our mindset, which helps 1688 01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,519 Speaker 4: us get through the day and through the year and 1689 01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,800 Speaker 4: hopefully successfully. 1690 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Can we just talk about your tour? Yes, your tour heroes? 1691 01:18:02,320 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 2: Right, yeah, So what's the content? What do you what 1692 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 2: are you talking to everyone about? 1693 01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 3: And so it's by Fizz Productions and the event is 1694 01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 3: called Rise to Greatness and takes place in Melbourne, Brisbane 1695 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,799 Speaker 3: and Sydney, Brisbane, Brisbane, I apologize and that spelled Brisbane. 1696 01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,920 Speaker 4: And if you're out and Brisbane people just get Brisbane 1697 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 4: and we're also was it Brisbane? 1698 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,160 Speaker 2: Brisbane? God it? 1699 01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 3: Thank you for the correction Brisbane, Melbourne and Australia and 1700 01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:30,120 Speaker 3: uh and Sydney and Rise to Greatness not only great speakers, 1701 01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:33,599 Speaker 3: but it's about empowering people to rise to their higher potential, 1702 01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,760 Speaker 3: to become the best version of yourself. We all know, 1703 01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 3: we all have a conscience that speaks to us when 1704 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 3: we're you're up later than you should be. There's that 1705 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,920 Speaker 3: conversation in the back of your head, like, hey, you 1706 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 3: should be asleep right now. If you're eating something you 1707 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 3: shouldn't be eating. There's that conversation in the back of 1708 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:50,840 Speaker 3: your head. I call it a secondary conversation that takes place. 1709 01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,760 Speaker 3: That's your conscience, that's your creator. 1710 01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Speaking to you. And what do we do. 1711 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,320 Speaker 3: We ignore it and we just turn up the volume 1712 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 3: on the television, or we take another shot, or we 1713 01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:01,120 Speaker 3: eat another slice of cake. 1714 01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 2: Whatever. 1715 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,439 Speaker 3: But if you listen to your conscience, it wants you 1716 01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,799 Speaker 3: to rise to your greatness, to your highest level of greatness. 1717 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,519 Speaker 3: Think what you've done. You have developed your highest version 1718 01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:15,720 Speaker 3: of yourself, then gave yourself to the world through television, media, etc. 1719 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 3: This podcast and everything. If Mark did not take the 1720 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 3: time to develop his highest level of himself, then then 1721 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 3: you would not have the opportunities to serve humanity and 1722 01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,800 Speaker 3: to do things for yourself and your family. And so 1723 01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 3: Rise to Greatness is just an amazing event that I 1724 01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 3: think will be transformational for everyone who attends, and I 1725 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:36,160 Speaker 3: think every year that Rob and his wife put this 1726 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:39,719 Speaker 3: event on, more people should attend if they're looking to 1727 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:44,479 Speaker 3: break out of the rat race and win their financial freedom, 1728 01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 3: their mental freedom, and realize there's a better path to 1729 01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 3: life than just being a cog in the wheel telling. 1730 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,360 Speaker 4: You up in the stage foot and is it you 1731 01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:55,280 Speaker 4: an interview or you're doing a presentation. 1732 01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:58,479 Speaker 3: I'm doing a presentation. I'm doing a presentation, and we'll 1733 01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:59,840 Speaker 3: be here eight days in total. 1734 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 2: But you're on stage during anyone presentation, two presentations. 1735 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 3: I believe there's a Q and a question and answer 1736 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,759 Speaker 3: session and a ninety minute presentations exactly. 1737 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 4: And are you heating on things like mindset months of strategies, 1738 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:18,320 Speaker 4: you know, routines to put destruction. 1739 01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,519 Speaker 3: Also specifically how to make more money, how to find 1740 01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,360 Speaker 3: your source of purpose meaning right money meaning self mastery, 1741 01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,599 Speaker 3: how to make more money, how to find your source 1742 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,639 Speaker 3: of meaning in life, because let's face it, we all 1743 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:30,160 Speaker 3: need a sense of meaning. If you don't have a 1744 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,479 Speaker 3: sense of meaning, you feel like you don't belong. You 1745 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,120 Speaker 3: start feeling having dark thoughts soon after. But if you 1746 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:36,920 Speaker 3: have a sense of meaning, like you belong, there's a 1747 01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,639 Speaker 3: purpose that you're put on this planet for. You will 1748 01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 3: push through whatever is necessary. So more money, more meaning, 1749 01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:45,960 Speaker 3: and more self mastery. Become the higher version of yourself, 1750 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,719 Speaker 3: drop your ego, connect to higher self, solve through your trauma, heal, 1751 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,320 Speaker 3: stop reacting to things instead of respond to things like 1752 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 3: like an adult. Like we see great giant adults having 1753 01:20:58,479 --> 01:21:03,760 Speaker 3: temper tantrumsotionally because they are emotionally retarded and we need 1754 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,080 Speaker 3: to I should get canceled for that, I'm sure, so 1755 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,720 Speaker 3: I'll say it again. They get emotionally retarded instead of 1756 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 3: being emotionally aware. And when you're emotionally aware, you can okay. 1757 01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 3: Am I about to react to what Mark said? Does 1758 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 3: Mark have any bad intentions towards me? Or maybe Mark's 1759 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:19,240 Speaker 3: having a bad day and I should say, hey, friend, 1760 01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:20,000 Speaker 3: are you okay? 1761 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 2: Right? 1762 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:24,240 Speaker 3: But depending on where my emotional state is, I may 1763 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 3: react instead of respond and trying to help a friend. 1764 01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,280 Speaker 3: Maybe you're just having a bad day and you took 1765 01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:31,800 Speaker 3: it out on me because I'm safe. The person that 1766 01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:34,640 Speaker 3: has elevated to higher self can tell the difference. The 1767 01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 3: person who hasn't now becomes inflammatory. 1768 01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,280 Speaker 4: So just in terms of because I mean it, perhaps 1769 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 4: you and I like you, we've we live this life. 1770 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,639 Speaker 4: But to some people when you say sort of discover 1771 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:51,599 Speaker 4: or find out what your purpose is? What does that 1772 01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 4: mean to people who might be listening to this, Because 1773 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 4: you know, am I meant to be a butcher and 1774 01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:03,120 Speaker 4: serve my community where I live? My butcher shop. I 1775 01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,080 Speaker 4: want to serve my community. That's called it made possible. Well, 1776 01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,360 Speaker 4: what is the purpose? How do you find out where 1777 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 4: your purpose is a. 1778 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,679 Speaker 2: Good good question. It's actually well, I'll have two purposes. 1779 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:13,679 Speaker 2: I'll start there. 1780 01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:17,519 Speaker 3: Your first purpose is really and people will ask it 1781 01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,000 Speaker 3: this way, They'll say, what is the meaning of life? Bedros, 1782 01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 3: And I'll say, easy, easy, You don't have to worry 1783 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,960 Speaker 3: about the meaning of life. Ask what is the meaning 1784 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,479 Speaker 3: of my life? So you are your first purpose. And 1785 01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,120 Speaker 3: I believe again, whether you believe in God or the 1786 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 3: universe or universal consciousness doesn't matter to me. Whatever, whoever 1787 01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 3: our creator is made us this way with where we 1788 01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:45,360 Speaker 3: will experience trauma adversity. You didn't come with an owner's manual. 1789 01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 3: Did your mom and dad give you an owner's man 1790 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:49,120 Speaker 3: Nor did mine? Yet I can go by a microwave 1791 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,880 Speaker 3: or a refrigerator comes with an owner's manual. Yet something 1792 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 3: this complex, with emotions and thoughts and feelings and movement, 1793 01:22:55,560 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 3: I have no owner's manual. And I believe God or 1794 01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 3: our creator wants us to figure out what is the 1795 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:06,200 Speaker 3: meaning of my life? Religive to everybody else, Yes, yeah, See, 1796 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,080 Speaker 3: when we try and understand the meaning of life. 1797 01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 2: That's overwhelming. What is the meaning of my life? 1798 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,040 Speaker 3: Well, how about the meaning of my life is to 1799 01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,759 Speaker 3: first be a good father, be a good husband. 1800 01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,280 Speaker 2: What does that look like? 1801 01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,720 Speaker 3: Raise kids who are going to be an asset to 1802 01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,439 Speaker 3: humanity and not a liability. Have a wife who feels 1803 01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 3: like she's heard and understood, and a partner in what 1804 01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:30,400 Speaker 3: I do. Okay, great, manage, have patience, manage my anger, 1805 01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,800 Speaker 3: heal through the traumas that I've experienced. Like I said, 1806 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,320 Speaker 3: I've experienced sexual trauma, physical trauma, physical abuse. That doesn't 1807 01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,920 Speaker 3: make me a victim, but those things that happened to 1808 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,680 Speaker 3: me as a young man will show up in my 1809 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,320 Speaker 3: life in a negative way if I don't heal through it. 1810 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,080 Speaker 3: So the meaning of my life is first to heal 1811 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:50,120 Speaker 3: through my traumas and the adversities that I faced, and 1812 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,160 Speaker 3: to raise a family that is going to be an 1813 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,200 Speaker 3: asset and not a liability to humanity. And it is 1814 01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 3: to be myself to be an asset and not a 1815 01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 3: liability on my fellow man. And then from there, I'm 1816 01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 3: now at a place the hierarchy of needs Mapslow's hierarchy 1817 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 3: of needs. Now I'm at a place where I can 1818 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,840 Speaker 3: go all right now now that I've healed, I've got 1819 01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,479 Speaker 3: a family who is sovereign and free and free thinking. 1820 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,120 Speaker 3: How else can I serve humanity? Well, for me, it's fitness. 1821 01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:19,479 Speaker 3: When people ask me how can I get out of 1822 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:21,000 Speaker 3: my depression? I said, do you have ABS? 1823 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:21,160 Speaker 4: No? 1824 01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 2: I don't get your abs. What do you mean? 1825 01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you get your abs, you will fall madly 1826 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:28,840 Speaker 3: in love with yourself. In the process of getting your abs, 1827 01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 3: eating right and working out hard, you will suffer so much, 1828 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:34,840 Speaker 3: but you'll have to keep going to the gym to 1829 01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,080 Speaker 3: burn the fat and build the muscle. And when you do, 1830 01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 3: you will release dopamine serotonin and it will help you 1831 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 3: escape your depression and anxiety when you do, and you 1832 01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:45,400 Speaker 3: get to the best version of yourself and you start 1833 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:46,439 Speaker 3: solving all your problems. 1834 01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,760 Speaker 2: You know this when you're working out. 1835 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 3: How many times are you under rolling and someone's about 1836 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,600 Speaker 3: to get you in a rear naked chokehold or a 1837 01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:55,280 Speaker 3: guillotine chokeholder and you're thinking through a work problem, Like 1838 01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,519 Speaker 3: some of my best problems solving happens when I'm about 1839 01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:00,040 Speaker 3: to get choked out or armbard or something. Because but 1840 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,960 Speaker 3: I also realize, like I'm suffering, and I do believe 1841 01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:06,320 Speaker 3: suffering introduces a man to his highest self. And the 1842 01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:09,760 Speaker 3: world has gotten so soft, so complacent, that we try 1843 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,400 Speaker 3: and stay away from any kind of suffering, and we've 1844 01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,320 Speaker 3: become fragile. We need to become anti fragile. So to me, 1845 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 3: our second source of purpose is once you've healed through 1846 01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:21,639 Speaker 3: your shit, once you are a good friend, a good husband, 1847 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,040 Speaker 3: a good father, a good business partner. What is my 1848 01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,080 Speaker 3: source of serving humanity? For me, it's through fitness, right. 1849 01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,400 Speaker 3: I always tell people, if you can get fit physically, 1850 01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,880 Speaker 3: you will get fit mentally and emotionally. Now, someone else 1851 01:25:33,960 --> 01:25:35,320 Speaker 3: might say, I'm going to be a butcher, and I'm 1852 01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,240 Speaker 3: going to feed you good food, and that good food 1853 01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,760 Speaker 3: is going to nourish your body, and you're going to 1854 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,360 Speaker 3: feel good about yourself. You're gonna go out there and 1855 01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,160 Speaker 3: do good. I don't know what someone else's source of 1856 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 3: purpose is, but I do no mine. And I got 1857 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 3: to this. I knew what my source of purpose is 1858 01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:51,200 Speaker 3: because at first I took time to heal myself and 1859 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,760 Speaker 3: work on my first source of meaning, the meaning of 1860 01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,479 Speaker 3: my life, which is to develop, to basically develop my 1861 01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 3: own owner's manual that morning routine. You talked about that 1862 01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,040 Speaker 3: evening routine that you have the structure, the discipline. You 1863 01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:07,000 Speaker 3: have written Mar's owner's manual. I've written my own, and 1864 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,640 Speaker 3: everyone needs to write their own owner's manual first and 1865 01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 3: then go out and serve the world with that. 1866 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,400 Speaker 4: How important is honesty to yourself when you are sitting down? 1867 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:18,760 Speaker 4: You said, get your shit together, like, work out the 1868 01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:20,599 Speaker 4: things that are sort of making you feel bad. And 1869 01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 4: you know, like in your case, you suffered some traumas 1870 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,400 Speaker 4: in your life. How important is it to be honest 1871 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,120 Speaker 4: and confront those things? And do you need somebody else 1872 01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:30,680 Speaker 4: to help you. 1873 01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 2: Through that process? 1874 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,000 Speaker 4: Is it some people just can't do I think just 1875 01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:34,920 Speaker 4: can't do it on their own. 1876 01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think most people can't do it on their own. Yeah. 1877 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,439 Speaker 2: What do they say? They say, what got you here 1878 01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,599 Speaker 2: won't get you there? Right? 1879 01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,839 Speaker 3: And so you have to be brutally honest with yourself. 1880 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,720 Speaker 3: And I think most people overestimate how awesome they are, 1881 01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:53,799 Speaker 3: how amazing they are, and they underestimate how little problems 1882 01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,400 Speaker 3: they have until it's too late. You know, people who 1883 01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,840 Speaker 3: have the earbuds in and they're walking through a city 1884 01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,320 Speaker 3: at night, estimate how safe they are the former me, 1885 01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 3: the one point zero version of me, the young man 1886 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,000 Speaker 3: who was very angry. I used to carjack, I used 1887 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:10,120 Speaker 3: to do home invasion robberies, and I today I could 1888 01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,920 Speaker 3: see someone walking with earbuds in at night, I could 1889 01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:14,880 Speaker 3: see where their purses. If it's on the street side, 1890 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,760 Speaker 3: they're gonna be easier to snatch. I'm a forty nine 1891 01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 3: year old successful man. I have no intention of robbing someone, 1892 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,960 Speaker 3: but my predatory instincts still make me look, and when 1893 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,559 Speaker 3: I see it, I go. They overestimate how safe they are, 1894 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:31,400 Speaker 3: and they underestimate how deadly I can be or another 1895 01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 3: bad guy can be. And I think, if you can 1896 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,000 Speaker 3: be brutally honest, you realize most people are sitting ducks. 1897 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 3: Like several years ago, we were in my family and 1898 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:44,120 Speaker 3: I were flying back from my MAUI and my son 1899 01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:46,040 Speaker 3: and I were sitting over here in first class. My 1900 01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,240 Speaker 3: wife and my daughter were sitting here in first class 1901 01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,200 Speaker 3: across the aisle, but we were the last row of 1902 01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,480 Speaker 3: first class up front and to the left, in the 1903 01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,240 Speaker 3: second row first class, there's a gentleman hitting the back 1904 01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:59,639 Speaker 3: of the seat making the gun gesture. Now it's eleven 1905 01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:02,120 Speaker 3: o'clock at night. Man We're flying over the Pacific Ocean 1906 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 3: and I had just started training in MMA. I hadn't 1907 01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:06,960 Speaker 3: learned jiu jitsu yet, but in MMA, you know this. 1908 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:10,120 Speaker 3: You learned guillotine and renicka chokeholds and arm bars and. 1909 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:10,679 Speaker 2: Things like that. 1910 01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:13,880 Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, I see the flight attendants. 1911 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 3: They're lacing together two zip cuffs and they're coming down 1912 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,080 Speaker 3: the aisle and I stopped and I said, ma'am, is 1913 01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:23,040 Speaker 3: everything okay? Like, what's going on? He's a flight risk? 1914 01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:25,400 Speaker 3: I said, well, can I help? She said, well, by law, 1915 01:28:25,439 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 3: we have to ask him to put these on. And 1916 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 3: I look at him and he's going berserk Mark He's 1917 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,680 Speaker 3: lost his shit, And I go, that man is going 1918 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:33,080 Speaker 3: to put. 1919 01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 2: On those zip cuffs. He goes, we hope, so okay. 1920 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,200 Speaker 3: So they get in front of him and you could 1921 01:28:37,200 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 3: see the lady, hey, you know you have to put 1922 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 3: this on. 1923 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,559 Speaker 2: He stands up and starts screaming. 1924 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,040 Speaker 3: She looks at me, and I look at the guy 1925 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,640 Speaker 3: sitting behind my wife, and we had both made this 1926 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,800 Speaker 3: eye contact like if shit goes down, we're going to help. 1927 01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 3: I really thought this is post nine to eleven that 1928 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:52,120 Speaker 3: I thought. My biggest concern is I'm going to be 1929 01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,160 Speaker 3: the first one there. I'm going to be stuck under 1930 01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 3: a pile of humans. I'm going to suffocate. That was 1931 01:28:56,479 --> 01:29:00,040 Speaker 3: my biggest concern, Like, oh shit, right, little then I 1932 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 3: know that it was just gonna be me and that 1933 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,080 Speaker 3: guy and no one else. Everyone else had their phones 1934 01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:07,800 Speaker 3: out film me, and so I ran over, got him 1935 01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,880 Speaker 3: in a rear naked choke hold, then had to get 1936 01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,479 Speaker 3: him in a gillotine choke hold so we can put 1937 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,600 Speaker 3: his arms behind his back and lace him up. The 1938 01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,960 Speaker 3: whole time I'm panicking, I'm sweating. God has gifted me 1939 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:17,920 Speaker 3: with two things, a lot of body hair and a 1940 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,599 Speaker 3: lot of sweat glands. I was sweating profusely, and coming 1941 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,400 Speaker 3: back from Hawaii, I was wearing flip flops, and so 1942 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,240 Speaker 3: I'm sliding out of my flip hoops. So now whenever 1943 01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 3: I'm on a plane, I lace up my shoes really 1944 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:30,200 Speaker 3: tight because if I have to choke a motherfucker out again, 1945 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:32,400 Speaker 3: I'm never going to slip out of my flip flops. 1946 01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:34,720 Speaker 3: And he was a tall guy, so I didn't know 1947 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,720 Speaker 3: how to take him down. I just hugged his neck 1948 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,679 Speaker 3: and didn't let go until he collapsed, and then got 1949 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:40,920 Speaker 3: into a guillotine choke hold. But I share this with 1950 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,080 Speaker 3: you because it doesn't matter where I'm traveling to like, 1951 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,479 Speaker 3: I want it as old as I get. I want 1952 01:29:46,479 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 3: to be an acid to humanity. Like God forbid. If 1953 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:52,519 Speaker 3: I'm on another plane and something goes down, I don't 1954 01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,200 Speaker 3: want to be there hoping that someone jumps and saves 1955 01:29:55,200 --> 01:29:57,120 Speaker 3: the day. I want to be the one to save 1956 01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:58,800 Speaker 3: the day. In fact, jokingly I told my son as 1957 01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:02,000 Speaker 3: we were coming to Australia. He eighteen and muscular, and 1958 01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:04,280 Speaker 3: he boxes and he does jiu jitsu. I said, son, 1959 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:07,400 Speaker 3: if shit goes down, I'm delegating it to you. Only 1960 01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 3: if it gets bad, I'm gonna get up and help, 1961 01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:10,840 Speaker 3: you know, And he laughed about he goes, don't worry, Dad. 1962 01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,160 Speaker 2: I got it. He is he is. He don'tlike yourself 1963 01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,280 Speaker 2: like at eighteen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's fit unlike myself 1964 01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:19,400 Speaker 2: at eighteen. He's fit. He weighs one hundred and seventy five. 1965 01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 3: Pounds, lean, muscular, boxes, does jiu jitsu, plays it just 1966 01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,679 Speaker 3: he's I'm in awe of my kids. 1967 01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:27,639 Speaker 2: Man, I'm in all of my kids. 1968 01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,479 Speaker 4: Well, they say that, but doesn't drop far from the 1969 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 4: tree like I mean, that's got to be a lot to. 1970 01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:32,719 Speaker 2: Do with yourself and your wife. 1971 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:36,680 Speaker 4: Thank you with the mother, and I guess, by the way, 1972 01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:38,280 Speaker 4: your dad is still alive. 1973 01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:42,880 Speaker 3: My dad is alive. My mom died about ten months ago. 1974 01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:47,160 Speaker 4: Long and so, and when you sit down with your dad, 1975 01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:49,040 Speaker 4: because this is sort of where we started, when you 1976 01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,240 Speaker 4: sit down with your dad and you talk about he's 1977 01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,880 Speaker 4: no doubt very proud of what he has done and 1978 01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,120 Speaker 4: his family has done. Do you have a sort of 1979 01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:01,760 Speaker 4: sit down together and reflect on, you know, going to 1980 01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:07,759 Speaker 4: rhyme from Armenia and then off to America and WAYO landed, 1981 01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:08,599 Speaker 4: way you are today? 1982 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:09,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever sit down reflect on that? 1983 01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:10,360 Speaker 4: We do? 1984 01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:11,599 Speaker 2: We did. He's ninety one. 1985 01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:14,120 Speaker 3: Now. We did more of that when he in the 1986 01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,920 Speaker 3: seventies and eighties. Today, at ninety one, his memory is 1987 01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:21,559 Speaker 3: not as sharp as it used to be. But I'm 1988 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:25,040 Speaker 3: so glad that I was smart enough to ask questions like, Dad, 1989 01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,519 Speaker 3: what made you want to escape? And he said, oh, 1990 01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,720 Speaker 3: you don't remember when I wore jordash jeans and ray 1991 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,559 Speaker 3: banded sunglasses and listened to the beach boys in Armenia. 1992 01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:34,880 Speaker 3: I said, no, I don't remember that. He goes, oh, 1993 01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,360 Speaker 3: I was born in an American just in the wrong country. 1994 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:40,120 Speaker 3: Holy shit. So he goes, yeah, I just I was 1995 01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,439 Speaker 3: in the wrong country and I needed to escape and 1996 01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,759 Speaker 3: bring you guys with me. Like he came to America 1997 01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,200 Speaker 3: because he felt we'd have a better opportunity. But he 1998 01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,640 Speaker 3: felt that he was born in the wrong country. Like 1999 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,800 Speaker 3: what a visionary you know. And so the stories that 2000 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,639 Speaker 3: he tells me. He told me a story actually recently, 2001 01:31:57,720 --> 01:31:59,840 Speaker 3: maybe a couple months ago. I said, Dad, I think 2002 01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,640 Speaker 3: you help one of your friends stop smoking. So he 2003 01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:03,800 Speaker 3: used to be a hunter. They would hunt rabbit and 2004 01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:05,600 Speaker 3: squirrel and fox's small. 2005 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,640 Speaker 2: Game in Armenia. 2006 01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,880 Speaker 3: I said, can you tell me, because my son Andrew 2007 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:10,439 Speaker 3: was with mess can you tell me and Andrew how 2008 01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,960 Speaker 3: you stopped one of your friends from smoking cigarettes? 2009 01:32:13,439 --> 01:32:13,639 Speaker 2: Oh? 2010 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,280 Speaker 3: He goes, easy, easy, and he tells Andrew goes, Andrew, Andrew, 2011 01:32:16,280 --> 01:32:16,840 Speaker 3: you listen to me. 2012 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:17,519 Speaker 2: You listen to me. 2013 01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:22,280 Speaker 3: And so his friend, which was a chainsmoker in Armenia, 2014 01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,880 Speaker 3: my dad goes and buys a pack of cigarettes, takes 2015 01:32:26,880 --> 01:32:29,400 Speaker 3: one of the cigarettes, takes half of the tobacco out, 2016 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:33,200 Speaker 3: takes a bullet, takes a little bit of the gunpowder out, 2017 01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,800 Speaker 3: puts it in the cigarette. Puts the tobacco back in, 2018 01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,160 Speaker 3: tells his friend, Hey, you want a cigarette, and he 2019 01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,840 Speaker 3: pulls out the right one and gives it to his friend. 2020 01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,360 Speaker 3: Of course, the friend lights it up and the thing 2021 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:46,200 Speaker 3: blows up in his face and immediately he stops smoking. 2022 01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 3: And he goes, you have to be bold, son, I 2023 01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,639 Speaker 3: did bold things to help my friends. And he said, 2024 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:52,679 Speaker 3: I did bold things to make sure that you guys 2025 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:55,200 Speaker 3: have the life that you want. Like he was a visionary, 2026 01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:57,920 Speaker 3: Like he did things, he risked his life. And he 2027 01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,000 Speaker 3: has a sweet tongue and our meeni and we say 2028 01:33:00,960 --> 01:33:04,680 Speaker 3: cost Lesu a sweet tongue where he was able to 2029 01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,360 Speaker 3: finaggle his way through the American consult in Rome, and 2030 01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,040 Speaker 3: when we got here, he found a way to get 2031 01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,479 Speaker 3: people to help us and like us and not see 2032 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:13,200 Speaker 3: us as a threat. 2033 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:15,120 Speaker 2: And I learned so much of that. 2034 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 3: So yeah, we do get together, especially earlier on, and 2035 01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 3: we talk about like, like, look where we've gotten. You know, 2036 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,160 Speaker 3: the fact that my sister works for me full time 2037 01:33:23,160 --> 01:33:26,000 Speaker 3: and does nothing. That was one of my life goals, right, 2038 01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:27,200 Speaker 3: one of my life goals. 2039 01:33:27,720 --> 01:33:28,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, you heard it. 2040 01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,960 Speaker 1: If you don't agree with him, tell me when you 2041 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:32,479 Speaker 1: say he does. 2042 01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,479 Speaker 3: He just said, you do nothing, literally nothing, And I 2043 01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,000 Speaker 3: love that and I want that for And that's because 2044 01:33:37,040 --> 01:33:40,240 Speaker 3: when we came to Armenia to America, she had a job. 2045 01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,760 Speaker 3: One of the three jobs that she had, she was 2046 01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,800 Speaker 3: a waitress at a pizzeria, the same pizzeria that my 2047 01:33:43,840 --> 01:33:44,719 Speaker 3: dad was a busboy. 2048 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:46,559 Speaker 2: And the owner of. 2049 01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:51,240 Speaker 3: That pizzeria was very suggestive, was very handsy, gropie with her, 2050 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,080 Speaker 3: and she would cry to my dad like, I don't 2051 01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:54,840 Speaker 3: want to work here anymore. He said, one more month, 2052 01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:57,200 Speaker 3: just need the money, one more month. And you know, 2053 01:33:57,600 --> 01:33:59,559 Speaker 3: remember she's sixteen years older than me, so she's also 2054 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:01,599 Speaker 3: like a second mom to me. And I remember going 2055 01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:04,080 Speaker 3: to her feeling helpless, and I said, hey, sis, when 2056 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:06,280 Speaker 3: I'm rich, when i'm older, I'm going to be so 2057 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:09,320 Speaker 3: rich you'll never have to work again. So fourteen years ago, 2058 01:34:10,360 --> 01:34:12,479 Speaker 3: I told her to quit her company job that she 2059 01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 3: had and she works for me, doing nothing, and I 2060 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:17,080 Speaker 3: love that. And my dad is so grateful to me 2061 01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,720 Speaker 3: tell this day. He says, I know what you're doing 2062 01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,840 Speaker 3: for your sister and your brother, Thank you for that. 2063 01:34:20,920 --> 01:34:23,000 Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, it's no worries, it's the least 2064 01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:23,800 Speaker 3: I could do it. 2065 01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:27,200 Speaker 4: I got one stop by an Armenian friend of mine 2066 01:34:27,200 --> 01:34:29,439 Speaker 4: who passed away, and a meaning friend of mine. 2067 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:30,479 Speaker 1: He told me that, Marke. 2068 01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:32,800 Speaker 4: He said, Armenians the best traders in the world, the 2069 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:35,360 Speaker 4: best merchants in the world. And I said, because we 2070 01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:38,439 Speaker 4: sit between Europe, or we used to sit historically between 2071 01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:42,000 Speaker 4: Europe and the Middle East and of course China in 2072 01:34:42,080 --> 01:34:43,080 Speaker 4: terms of the Silk Road. 2073 01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:44,479 Speaker 1: He said, so everything had to. 2074 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,320 Speaker 4: Go through Emenia and had to get traded one way 2075 01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:48,599 Speaker 4: or the other. He said, Armenians sort of grew up 2076 01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:51,240 Speaker 4: with this over the century. He's grew up with this 2077 01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,640 Speaker 4: sort of history of being able to do deals and 2078 01:34:55,400 --> 01:34:59,559 Speaker 4: build bridges between organizations, but you know, actually sort of 2079 01:34:59,600 --> 01:35:03,680 Speaker 4: broke things to happen and build bridges between people and concepts, 2080 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:05,800 Speaker 4: people and products, prevalent services. 2081 01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:08,080 Speaker 1: And it sees to me that Bedros is. 2082 01:35:08,080 --> 01:35:11,840 Speaker 4: That what you're doing is that your your in, your 2083 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,640 Speaker 4: in your jobs and your business. Today you've sort of 2084 01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:20,519 Speaker 4: built a bridge between consumers, your audience, consumers of what 2085 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:23,280 Speaker 4: you talk about, your audience build a bridge between them 2086 01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:27,040 Speaker 4: and what can be possibly with the best version of themselves. 2087 01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:31,680 Speaker 4: So that's quite an important by the way, a big responsibility, 2088 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 4: a huge responsibility which you've adopted. That bridge is for 2089 01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:40,880 Speaker 4: some people, in particularly some people could be make or 2090 01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:44,240 Speaker 4: break for them, you know, because you're to some extent 2091 01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:47,320 Speaker 4: you're there's potentially the salvation, and they look up to 2092 01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:48,639 Speaker 4: you for that, and they will come along and listen 2093 01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 4: to you and pay money to listen to you for that. 2094 01:35:50,439 --> 01:35:52,919 Speaker 4: Do you fill a level of responsibility in that regard 2095 01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:58,360 Speaker 4: to make sure that they go away with something? How 2096 01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:00,000 Speaker 4: big is that responsibility on your shoulders? 2097 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,599 Speaker 2: There's a massive responsibility where that's concerned. 2098 01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:09,760 Speaker 3: I'm organically, I'm I'm an introvert. I'm an i NTJ introverted, 2099 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:15,160 Speaker 3: intuitive thinker, judicial very high introvert. And I think and 2100 01:36:15,560 --> 01:36:16,280 Speaker 3: people ask me, is. 2101 01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:16,639 Speaker 2: There a God? 2102 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:18,599 Speaker 3: And I go, of course, there's a god. He made 2103 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,320 Speaker 3: me a high introvert and then told me my purpose 2104 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,120 Speaker 3: is to do what extroverts do. Get in front of 2105 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,439 Speaker 3: a microphone, get on stage and speak to tens of 2106 01:36:26,439 --> 01:36:30,360 Speaker 3: thousands of millions of people. I fifteen years of speaking, 2107 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:34,120 Speaker 3: I still sweat profusely. I'm always nervous when I'm on stage. 2108 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:36,679 Speaker 3: Once I'm on stage, a sense of comfort comes over 2109 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,280 Speaker 3: me and I believe. I say, you know the universe 2110 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:41,600 Speaker 3: or God speaks through me, Source just speaks through me. 2111 01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:45,280 Speaker 3: I'm just a megaphone. When that happens, I almost go 2112 01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:49,800 Speaker 3: out of body. Sometimes it's fascinating. But the pressure that 2113 01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:52,840 Speaker 3: I feel as an introvert when I'm still stopped on 2114 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 3: the streets, I don't know how Oh you're badro's cool 2115 01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:56,599 Speaker 3: and I follow you. I didn't know what to say 2116 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,679 Speaker 3: before my wife taught me three things. Hey, what's your name? 2117 01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 2: What do you do? 2118 01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:04,640 Speaker 3: What is your favorite part of my show? Because I 2119 01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:05,559 Speaker 3: don't know what to ask? 2120 01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:07,080 Speaker 1: The three questions are? 2121 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,920 Speaker 3: Those are three questions? Okay, are you an introvert by chance? 2122 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2123 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 3: Okay, there you go, There you go. Because I connect 2124 01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:13,800 Speaker 3: one on one like this really well. I could do 2125 01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:15,439 Speaker 3: this all day long. Put me on stage. 2126 01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,200 Speaker 2: My armpits are sweating, my backsweating. Put you know. 2127 01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:22,720 Speaker 3: And so while I'm grateful for the opportunities the responsibility 2128 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 3: that I have, and I think I magnify that to myself. 2129 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,160 Speaker 3: I make it bigger than it should be. But it's 2130 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:30,760 Speaker 3: also why I might give a shit factor, as my 2131 01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,840 Speaker 3: wife says, is so high. I give a shit to 2132 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 3: the point where I'll I was telling everybody at dinner 2133 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:41,479 Speaker 3: last night I say, watch tomorrow. Before I get on stage, 2134 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:43,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to pee and pee again and pee. 2135 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,439 Speaker 2: My bladder goes out of control. 2136 01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:47,800 Speaker 3: I feel like I'm getting a sore throat, I'm running 2137 01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:51,240 Speaker 3: a fever, and as soon as I'm on stage, Mark relaxed. 2138 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:56,000 Speaker 3: It's fucking nuts fifteen years later. But it's introvert living 2139 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:56,960 Speaker 3: in an extrovert life. 2140 01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:00,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, so basically, to some extent, it's a performance. The 2141 01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:04,240 Speaker 4: content you perform, you switch on the moment you get 2142 01:38:04,280 --> 01:38:07,400 Speaker 4: on the stage, and you perform with your content and 2143 01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:09,519 Speaker 4: you deliver on your promise. 2144 01:38:10,479 --> 01:38:12,320 Speaker 3: I think I do. I have yet to hear anyone 2145 01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:14,200 Speaker 3: ask for a refund, and it's been fifteen. 2146 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,800 Speaker 2: Years andros cooling has been a great pleasure. Thank you 2147 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:17,439 Speaker 2: so much much