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Speaker 1: Welcome to three sixty regular from every angle, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Regain joining me again the Great Gordon Taller

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Speaker 1: broke in the journals in Paul Crowley and Dean, Ridgie

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Speaker 1: and Doggie.

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Speaker 2: You've done it again?

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Speaker 3: What have I done?

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Speaker 2: This time?

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Speaker 1: Queensland are set to dominate Grand Final day?

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Speaker 2: This was one of you call them?

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Speaker 4: Ah right, that is what you were talking about in the

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Speaker 4: green room behind my name right holidays for the Sunshine Case.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever happen to think that maybe.

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Speaker 4: I inspired Queensland to go to another level of excellence

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Speaker 4: because at that very point they were on their backsides

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Speaker 4: Gordon were we?

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Speaker 3: Yes, you were? Look at the look at the percentages.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of strange.

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Speaker 6: You know how many New South Wales teams you have

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Speaker 6: in the finals this weekend?

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Speaker 3: New So Cup?

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Speaker 5: How many is that? What is?

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Speaker 4: Know?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 5: You got one?

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Speaker 2: Did you call them the biggest loser?

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Speaker 5: You've got one?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 2: Was that another article?

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Speaker 6: So dog I want you to buy a Rooster's jersey,

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Speaker 6: go there and support Well, you know I won't be

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Speaker 6: supporting queens Ans because I don't want to support anyone

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Speaker 6: where you came from, because I don't respect you.

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Speaker 4: Nor your state Wow, nemesis for forty years. That mob

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Speaker 4: up north and I think the storm will win.

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Speaker 2: Go to the storm eryld W two Brisboe.

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Speaker 5: So where's Melbourne, Victoria? That's around south.

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Speaker 3: You're up north right, That's what they said on the platform, mate,

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Speaker 3: Melbourne Storm is.

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Speaker 6: A bad You can't bury for anybody from your own Harry.

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Speaker 6: I don't need that Gordon run the legs.

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Speaker 2: You see it in the paper. You don't know who

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Speaker 2: to go for.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that new Southwest fans are going to

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Speaker 1: be a bit torn over this one?

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Speaker 3: I think they will break.

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Speaker 4: I speak to my mates and they're a bit fifty

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Speaker 4: to fifty. A lot of people don't like Melbourne Storm

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Speaker 4: from the old days and they thought they wrestled too much.

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Speaker 4: Success also brings a lot of people to the point

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Speaker 4: where they get to be exasperated. The Broncos Queensland, except

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Speaker 4: it goes on and on.

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Speaker 3: It'll be split down the middle. But I think more people, well.

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Speaker 4: You know, we'll go for the Broncos because of the

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Speaker 4: blake with green eyes in the number one jersey.

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Speaker 7: I reckon on the contrary, I reckon, I reckon for

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Speaker 7: the first time in history. The storm almost going as

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Speaker 7: the people's team because of the state of Brisbane and

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Speaker 7: the fact that the origin comes into the equation. I know,

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Speaker 7: Storm We've got a few Origin Queensland origin players there.

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Speaker 7: I truly believe most people who don't have their team

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Speaker 7: in it will go for this.

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Speaker 1: And even though there aren't no New South Wales teams

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Speaker 1: in the Grand Fall, it is officially sold out.

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Speaker 2: That's huge, right, Yeah, well.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's just the style of footy. The

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Speaker 6: final series, as I mentioned last night, it's the best

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Speaker 6: that I've seen. So if this there's any indication of

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Speaker 6: you know where the finals are at, you think Melbourne

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Speaker 6: and Brisbane.

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Speaker 7: It's funny you say that, though good unbelievable game because

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Speaker 7: you got.

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Speaker 3: You played in a great era like a lot of.

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Speaker 7: Old school journos like us go back to that ninety

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Speaker 7: four period as I remember that, as I look back

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Speaker 7: at that as the best era of rugby league, and

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Speaker 7: you actually think that the game right now is better

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Speaker 7: than it was it you look at.

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Speaker 6: The Raiders Brisbane, you look at even like when Penrith

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Speaker 6: played the Bulldogs, that was still an unbelievable day. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: and just watching Penoth's dominance last Sunday, was as good

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Speaker 6: as any game.

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Speaker 1: We said last night, it's up there with one of

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Speaker 1: the best final series up to the Grand Final that

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Do you guys agree with that?

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Speaker 4: And I think that's why break the crowd is sold

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Speaker 4: out already. You might not have your side in there.

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Speaker 4: You might have bought tickets being a Raiders fan or

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Speaker 4: a or a Panthers, but whoever has missed out the

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Speaker 4: fan will still go because of the standards.

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Speaker 2: When we've started the.

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Speaker 7: Football in that in that Raiders Broncos game really kicked

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Speaker 7: it off, didn't it. And then last Sunday was the same.

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Speaker 7: The Sunday before was the same. It's like the Sunday

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Speaker 7: foot has had a lot to do with it.

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Speaker 1: I can't confirm people are still searching for tickets because

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Speaker 1: everyone's hitting me up, so there's none left to carry.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Grand Final teams thanks

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Speaker 1: to sports Bet. In the Melbourne Storm are unchanged. Ryan

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Speaker 1: Papenhou's in a fallback, go through all of them, Kemra Munster,

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Speaker 1: Jerome Hughes in the half, Stefano, you Toy Kaman who.

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Speaker 2: Has lit the fuse.

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Speaker 1: Harry Grant the captain there in the number nine Jersey

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Speaker 1: Josh Keen. The other front row on the bench is

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Speaker 1: unchanged for Melbourne.

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Speaker 2: The tablock of the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: They have a change because Carrigan comes in, which I'll

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Speaker 1: get Torye Walsh fullback.

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Speaker 2: What a player he has been this year.

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Speaker 1: Ben Hunt and Adam Reynolds retain their spots in the halves.

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Speaker 1: Pat Carrigan comes into the team after that suspension and

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Speaker 1: Ezra Man is still on the bench. After we spoke

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Speaker 1: about it last night, which we'll get too soon. Tyson Smoothie.

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Speaker 1: He moves back to the bench and tlty is the

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Speaker 1: man that is out in our match, holds his nerve

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Speaker 1: with Hunt at six and man on the bench.

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Speaker 2: Is this the right call?

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Speaker 5: I think it is.

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Speaker 6: I think, you know, keeping Ezra away, you know from

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Speaker 6: the first twenty minutes he come on last week and

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Speaker 6: it worked. You know, they were a little bit tied Penrith.

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Speaker 6: He started to run the ball and I hated a

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Speaker 6: running threat in front of me because they were so dangerous.

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Speaker 6: So I think if it worked last week against the

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Speaker 6: defendant parameters, but why not try it again this week

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Speaker 6: because it wasn't broken.

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Speaker 7: They've come back from fourteen kneel down in back to

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Speaker 7: think to beat the Storm they need to start fast.

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Speaker 7: I would still not surprised. I would have had six

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Speaker 7: Jumper and I would have had Ben Hunting.

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Speaker 3: I think that's their best team.

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Speaker 2: That's a good point you make. It is a good point.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to keep coming back and that that that

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Speaker 1: win would take a lot out of them.

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Speaker 2: Even though that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: And you know, adrenaline and the fans were pumped and

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Speaker 1: they've proven in themselves they can come back now and

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Speaker 1: they've done it so much this year, but.

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Speaker 2: It is hard to do it into Melbourne, very hard.

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Speaker 3: And especially three weeks in a row.

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Speaker 7: And I think that, look, you didn't think mil Penrith

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Speaker 7: would give up a fourteen point league, but to do

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Speaker 7: it again, I think if I think the Broncos are

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Speaker 7: playing with such belief now that if they can start fast,

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Speaker 7: they're also going to be hard to beat.

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Speaker 3: When they're on top.

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Speaker 4: You'd have to be insane to change your halves between

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Speaker 4: the prelim and the Grand Final after you've just won

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Speaker 4: a big game.

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Speaker 3: I just think that that's their best team.

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Speaker 4: It may well be calls, but it's a seventeen man game.

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Speaker 4: Ezra was used so effectively off the bench last week

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Speaker 4: and he will be used effectively again this week. But

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Speaker 4: to change your two halves who have set the standard

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Speaker 4: during the final in the week of the Grand Final would.

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Speaker 3: Have been mad.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree that, but there's an argument definitely to

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Speaker 1: change it, and we just heard it and it.

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Speaker 2: Was a good argument. You know, the only won by

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Speaker 2: two points.

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Speaker 6: They come from thee but Gordon, you said all the

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Speaker 6: time it wasn't broken brace, So why would you try

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Speaker 6: to change your winning.

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Speaker 2: Song saying they should.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying that there's a fair argument there with the

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Speaker 1: quality of players.

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Speaker 7: Let's call it for Ben Hunt, right, is a pretty

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Speaker 7: good half. He's a great hooker, That's how I see it.

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Speaker 7: When he plays for the Queensland side plays nine mates,

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Speaker 7: you lose punch off the bench.

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Speaker 4: So if you start because was so good off the

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Speaker 4: bench last week, you know to one area, but you're

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Speaker 4: going to waken another area.

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Speaker 3: Of course it made a difference.

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Speaker 7: I just think from the comeback perspective, to try and

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Speaker 7: do it three times in a row, you could see

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Speaker 7: the game change when he came on the the threat

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Speaker 7: that he creates.

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Speaker 2: Could there be a laid switcher?

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Speaker 3: No, I think there could be.

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Speaker 2: You never know, budd he spoke in the Mansion.

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't spoken the mats this week, but I

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Speaker 4: don't think he'll change anything both.

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Speaker 3: I think they were so good last week.

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Speaker 4: They're on such a high that their spirits are up,

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Speaker 4: their camaraderie is up there on a roll.

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Speaker 2: He won't change anything, fair Cornew.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Carrigan comes in Ben Tolty, the one that misses out.

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Speaker 1: This is the obvious one, right, But how good is

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Speaker 1: it that he's back in Carrygan the thin well.

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Speaker 6: I thought he was going to be really missed, you know,

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Speaker 6: because he's the one two punch with pain has.

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Speaker 5: But the Broncos for did a great job. He's probably

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Speaker 5: probably Rismond's greatest number thirteen.

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Speaker 6: So to have someone like that the comeback in big

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Speaker 6: game player, you need him if they want to win.

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Speaker 7: He is He's a big game player. That's what Pat

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Speaker 7: Carrigan is. He'll he'll make so difference. You've seen him

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Speaker 7: do it in Origins. He goes on the field and

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Speaker 7: he changes games. I think it's a massive massively for

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Speaker 7: the Broncos.

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Speaker 4: I know we're going to talk about hears later in

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Speaker 4: the show, but what about him playing eighty minutes last

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Speaker 4: week essentially to cover for the loss of Karragan.

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Speaker 2: Just extraordinary he is and we will talk about him own.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Doggy Green Atkins to the referee the Grand Final

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Speaker 1: and Kline is in the bunker.

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Speaker 2: Is this the right call?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? You know why.

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Speaker 4: It's a reward for a referee who's stuck his whistle

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Speaker 4: in his pocket.

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Speaker 3: I was getting worried with the whistle break. No, I

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Speaker 3: wouldn't go show.

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Speaker 4: But last Friday night kleinb twenty two minutes ball in

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Speaker 4: playing that first half down in Melbourne eighteen penalties. I

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Speaker 4: think Ashley Klein butchered his chances of referee a Grand Final.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday we saw an epic game.

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Speaker 4: This bloke decided to let it flow a bit like

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Speaker 4: Adam g did in the twenty twenty three Grand Final.

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Speaker 4: And there's a reward. That's a message, clean message to

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Speaker 4: all referees. Yes, you've got to pick up infringements, but

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Speaker 4: if you let the game flow, and you let it

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Speaker 4: roll along at its own speed, you have a feel

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Speaker 4: for the game and for the occasion you will referee

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Speaker 7: Final cliin blew It week on week. Go back to

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Speaker 3: And then in this Cronulla game, the penalties for.

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Speaker 7: Mine just ruined the game like it was just like

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Speaker 3: Everything right, like he got a few wrong.

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Speaker 7: They're probably on the precedent that Klein said in the

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Speaker 3: But I like the fact that he didn't sinnbin.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather watch thirteen on thirteen and the way this

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Speaker 2: Do you think this should Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 3: Look, I know you give it to Buzz last night.

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Speaker 7: I actually thought Cleary or.

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Speaker 3: Penriff should have got the penalty there.

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Speaker 7: And you know, I had a crack at Cleary being

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Speaker 1: If they blow the penalty there, right, and it goes

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Speaker 3: It's the way to go. That's the way that it

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Speaker 1: Wrong with because it was a critical it would be saying, well,

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Speaker 1: they've got that wrong because we're going to slow it down.

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Speaker 5: And touches his leg. That's the thing. It's a penalty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's around and what you're supposed to do.

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Speaker 5: And he got there on time's right and the rules.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad it was.

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Speaker 4: It's a brilliant final for exactly it's a preliminary final

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Speaker 4: and I know, you have to be the letter of

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Speaker 7: That's been the problem though, because the bloody precedent, but

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Speaker 7: stuff clients now, I know, But but that's the consistency.

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Speaker 7: The consistency of the competition is why people will look

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Speaker 7: at that and say, well, Liam Martin should have gone,

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Speaker 7: Nathan should have and I.

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Speaker 3: Think Akins, I think, but I'm glad he did.

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Speaker 6: Most of the time you're watching the players sorted out.

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Speaker 6: I think the players get a chance to win the game.

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Speaker 2: You really picked it up, and I loving your last year.

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Speaker 3: I've got nothing to lose. But everything going all right.

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Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, there's a long way to goin this whole

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Speaker 1: I manage the batement viral last night Crawls was we buzz.

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Speaker 2: Of course you think it's one of the great comebacks.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to like Michael McGuire, but you have

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Speaker 7: He came back, he picked his wall with Billy Slater

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Speaker 7: and everything else that goes with Madge, they've come back

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Speaker 7: coming back from fourteen points behind. So all the work

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Speaker 2: There it is. There's the headlines three easier you know.

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Speaker 5: What, breath.

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Speaker 4: That's as low as you can go to be dumped

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Speaker 4: by the Tigers who won three wooden spoons. Let's be fair, Nick,

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Speaker 4: you cannot go any lower. He then flumbs the new

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Speaker 4: he's coaching the biggest rugby league team in Australia into

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Speaker 4: And I know Buzzer has been very anti Madge in

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Speaker 3: Spew buckets what you talked about.

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Speaker 4: But the fact they've come back from twelve points down

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Speaker 4: you that the hard work that they did pre season

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Speaker 6: I think that they're just fifty games older than the

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Speaker 7: I look at the hypothetical you're saying, though, is a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great squad.

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Speaker 1: What about Madge and Belly Is.

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Speaker 7: There is history. There was history early on. I think

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Speaker 5: There was story like each other.

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Speaker 7: Madge had the sheep with the story that got leaked,

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Speaker 7: that because he didn't, and there was a heated exchange,

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Speaker 7: don't think there's any drama ongoing. I do find it

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Speaker 7: interesting though, that we spend so much time analyzing Madge's

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Speaker 2: Who traditionally has an army camp every single year.

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Speaker 7: No one trains a team harder than Bellamy, but for

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Speaker 3: Poor On Madge goes the other way.

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Speaker 4: Belli Aks sends his new recruits to work for a

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Before every year they're out in the tools for four weeks.

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Speaker 4: So that's really rolling the sleeves up and being taught

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Speaker 2: Good on it? Right?

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Speaker 1: What about Reynolds's coming up on the show a little

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Speaker 7: I was thinking about it today, and you go back

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Speaker 3: Alfie Kevin all these great players come.

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Speaker 7: But of the NRL era, I can't think of a

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Speaker 3: Glenn Yeah, but of.

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Speaker 7: The NRL era, Yeah, I think after ninety eight Reynolds,

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Speaker 7: I think if well, I think he's hard to beat

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Speaker 7: as it is the fact that he's Can you think

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Speaker 5: On the.

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Speaker 6: Coming through And I haven't that came as an established

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Speaker 5: But it'd be like Lazarus.

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Speaker 6: Probably Gil must have come back and Adam rend him

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Speaker 6: and yeah, because I've never had to go outside the farm.

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Speaker 7: And I thought, this moment that's one of the bravest

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Speaker 3: Oh, mate, I hope you get this.

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Speaker 7: Given what happened at South Sydney in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 4: It was on his bad side too, wasn't it where

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Speaker 4: So Reno is actually showing more courage by saying I'll

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Speaker 4: he's one. Sorry, he's been in two Grand finals in

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Speaker 4: That's pretty handy. I mean Reynolds were now on going

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Speaker 4: Having said that, sixty percent that is a very very

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Speaker 1: And Debbey started the Panthers dynasty and now he's ended

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Speaker 1: it right, Well, I think he has ended the dynasty.

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Speaker 4: Well, firstly, when you say he started and ended it,

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Speaker 2: It was in.

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one and he pushed it to the right

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Speaker 6: As it's just ending the street, not the dynasty, for sure,

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm asking.

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Speaker 3: It's it's words, Gordy.

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Speaker 4: Look to me, a dynasty is a street you lose,

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Speaker 4: you have ended the dynasty. When New South Wales meet

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Speaker 4: back to start another dynasty, and Penrith may well do that.

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Speaker 3: But for me, the dynasty technically is over. It doesn't

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Speaker 7: He played for a team called the Broncos at one

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Speaker 7: and then two thousand. That Broncos dynasty that era Canberra

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Speaker 7: one thing. Penrith won't be sitting last after twelve rounds

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Speaker 7: next year. And Nathan clear is he twenty seven years

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Speaker 7: our game's history, play their best football after that age.

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Speaker 6: It's about time you picked on a New South Wales team.

448
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Speaker 4: Picking on them, I'm not picking on them at all.

449
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Speaker 4: I can't determine the word you.

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Speaker 2: Put a line through them for next year is incredible Already.

451
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Speaker 3: Define the word dynasty.

452
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Speaker 4: Then if they lose next year, we did well. If

453
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Speaker 4: they lose next year, is that the end of the dynasty?

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Speaker 7: No, No, as I saidst dynasty is is these these

455
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Speaker 7: group of players what.

456
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Speaker 3: Edwards's that's their rear.

457
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Speaker 5: That's the end.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I remember that. We've got it down in my diary.

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Speaker 4: Sure dynasty ends twenty thirty five.

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Speaker 1: Today's breaking news thanks to byd Shark six, Lewis Didde

461
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Speaker 1: has been released by the rabbit Os effective immediately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll going back to Adam Reynolds again.

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Speaker 7: God, you know Souse let him go at the end

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Speaker 7: of twenty twenty one and we've spoken about it chapter

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Speaker 7: and verse over the last few years, but it's just

466
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Speaker 7: it just reinforces what a rotten decision it was to

467
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Speaker 7: let Reynolds go at that time. There was question marks

468
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Speaker 7: about his body and him training in a pimp bib

469
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Speaker 7: and not being able to last and four years down

470
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Speaker 7: the track, two Grand finals. This poor bugger's come over

471
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Speaker 7: from England and it just hasn't worked out for him.

472
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Speaker 7: It's been an unfortunate buy for the club. I'm glad

473
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Speaker 7: that he goes back home and he finds he finds

474
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Speaker 7: a future, but Souse is still looking for the answer.

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Speaker 4: I feel sorry for the twelve new so Whilst Cup

476
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Speaker 4: games six and a rule, but of those six only

477
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Speaker 4: one was a starting halfback, which his preferred position. I

478
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Speaker 4: don't know who's signing. No one's come forward to say it,

479
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Speaker 4: but I will say.

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Speaker 3: This, Wayne Bennett good signing.

481
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Speaker 4: Wayne Bennett wasn't coaching saus at the time, but he

482
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Speaker 4: had been appointed South Sydney coach. You cannot tell me

483
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Speaker 4: that he was bought for eight hundred thousand dollars a

484
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Speaker 4: year and they did not consult Wayne Bennett, who was

485
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Speaker 4: coming in the following year as coach, so Wayne would

486
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Speaker 4: have had to given it some form of approval. I

487
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Speaker 4: think the situation was the deal had pretty much been

488
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Speaker 4: done and Wayne took their advice and said, that's what

489
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Speaker 4: you've done, that's what you've done. I don't think he

490
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Speaker 4: was the one that recruited Lewis did. I'm pretty perfident

491
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Speaker 4: I'm right in saying that I've heard the same thing.

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Speaker 7: And you know, Doggie, like you know the fact that

493
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Speaker 7: people are still trying to push it the blame this way,

494
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Speaker 7: and this play shows that no one's taken ownership of it,

495
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Speaker 7: and they probably do an explanation because this kid has

496
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Speaker 7: gone back with his reputation intact. And I don't hold

497
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Speaker 7: it against Bennet not picking him too. You've got to

498
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Speaker 7: pick your best at all but cup.

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Speaker 4: Game, you know what you're playing with New South Wales. First,

500
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Speaker 4: he struggled, but he wasn't even much of a chance

501
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Speaker 4: one game in.

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Speaker 2: His preferred position.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's a fair I think one of

504
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Speaker 1: the greatest coaches in the history, if not the greatest,

505
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Speaker 1: he gave him a few chances and obviously worked out

506
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Speaker 1: he's not he's not there. Look whether or not he's

507
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Speaker 1: not going to keep playing him just to appease everyone

508
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Speaker 1: else or him.

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Speaker 2: Give him opportunity.

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Speaker 3: Go back to the start of the didn't get a chance.

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Speaker 7: But you go back to the start of the season

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Speaker 7: right in the Charity Shield, it was Humphrey starts on

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Speaker 7: the bench, Dodd starts the game. They had that sin

514
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Speaker 7: bin at the time where they could go back retrospectively,

515
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Speaker 7: and he got taken off for the second half.

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Speaker 3: That's when South started clicking.

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Speaker 7: You can't then go and drop Humphreys and then this

518
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Speaker 7: guy has gone back to New South Wales.

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Speaker 2: Cup.

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Speaker 7: I think he got an injury after that, but maybe

521
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Speaker 7: he just didn't fire. Like you can't blame the coach.

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Speaker 7: It's a recruitment decision that has really gone belly up.

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Speaker 2: Story for everyone to move on.

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Speaker 1: Peter Blandy's house today shut down. Concerns over R three

525
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Speaker 1: sixty is speculation over the breakaway rugby competition continues.

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Speaker 8: Anything that doesn't have a business model or a finance

527
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Speaker 8: or a backer you can't take seriously. The clubs want

528
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Speaker 8: the NRL to take some pretty harsh action and we're

529
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Speaker 8: considering it because they're wasting their time with this one,

530
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Speaker 8: but there's probably going to be one in the future.

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Speaker 8: And who's to say that they're not using this NRL

532
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Speaker 8: three What is the cause for three sixty? That's just

533
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Speaker 8: a stalking horse to get more money. If you've got

534
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Speaker 8: a contract with the NRL, we expect you to honor it,

535
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Speaker 8: you know, and if you don't, there's going to be consequences.

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Speaker 2: And R all three sixty. No R three sixty, Peter,

537
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Speaker 2: how good is he really? Does that mean he does

538
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Speaker 2: it with the AFL? What does he called the AFL? Anyway?

539
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Speaker 1: This is interesting because there has been rumors around Papa

540
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Speaker 1: here Nelson.

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Speaker 2: As for Solomona, I've heard as well, and.

542
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Speaker 1: I've been doing a bit of digger lately around this

543
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Speaker 1: and talking to people close to R three sixty. You know,

544
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Speaker 1: I heard a rumor today from those people, and this

545
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Speaker 1: is pure speculation. But what I'm hearing is is that

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Speaker 1: Zach Lomax is about to sign a deal with them,

547
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Speaker 1: and there is a big chance that he played his

548
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Speaker 1: last game for paramatter. Now that, as I said, it's

549
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Speaker 1: pure speculation. I've heard it from someone close to R

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Speaker 1: three sixty. I don't know if it's true or not,

551
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Speaker 1: but it's something that we've got to keep an eye

552
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Speaker 1: on here because I believe this is starting to get serious.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are rumors around Papaernows, and there's rumors

554
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Speaker 1: around Big Nelson. I've heard, but this one was the

555
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Speaker 1: strongest i'd heard yet.

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Speaker 7: Yes, Dry Gray like, you can't ignore that there is

557
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Speaker 7: a threat there. And if it comes to fruition and

558
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Speaker 7: you had a player, and again it's speculation about Lomax,

559
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Speaker 7: but if you had a player that walked out on

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Speaker 7: a current NRL contract, I would like to think the

561
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 7: game drew a line in the sand and says that's fine, mate,

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Speaker 7: Go and play this and I hope you have a

563
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Speaker 7: really good time because you're not coming back to our game.

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Speaker 7: You can't break a contract if the deals are of contract, contract,

565
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Speaker 7: no dramas, no dramas whatsoever. It's a free world, you

566
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Speaker 7: know what I mean. But if you're going to break

567
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Speaker 7: a contract.

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Speaker 6: The last got to do this, Sonny bill Willis when

569
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Speaker 6: he went to France. Didn't he have to pay the

570
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Speaker 6: bull dog?

571
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Speaker 2: Did so?

572
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Speaker 5: Would that would that be the same situation?

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Speaker 7: Look, I think I think because it is, it is

574
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Speaker 7: a threat, and we wait to see how big a threat,

575
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Speaker 7: you know what I mean. But I think we have

576
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Speaker 7: a great game here and we have so much talent

577
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Speaker 7: out there looking for an opportunity. I think we can

578
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Speaker 7: live without one or two players. But if they're breaking contracts,

579
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Speaker 7: don't let them back.

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Speaker 1: It's easy tough one because the players, you can't grabe

581
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Speaker 1: them for any double their wage, just like leave golf.

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Speaker 2: You know it's it's it's such a big tent.

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Speaker 7: Take can know if there's a contract in place, like wait,

584
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Speaker 7: wait till your contractors finished and then go What about compensation?

585
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Speaker 1: If the clubs are willing to be compensated by R

586
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Speaker 1: three sixty.

587
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Speaker 5: Make some expensive players.

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Speaker 1: These guys don't care about money. I mean, if you

589
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: talk about you look at that. I mean again I

590
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: refer to live golf. They don't care about money, you know,

591
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, where do you see live golf. You've got

592
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: to go on seven mates to even watch it, like

593
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 1: it's barely visible. It's not about TV, right, deals and

594
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: these guys, It's just about something bigger.

595
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Speaker 7: You tell me, though, Broth, you're a manager, do you

596
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 7: see this as a genuine threat to our game or

597
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 7: taking quality players?

598
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Speaker 1: I didn't until recently when it's starting. The noise is

599
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: starting to get louder, and I'm starting to hear the

600
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Speaker 1: players signing non disclosures and you know, all that.

601
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Speaker 2: Sort of thing at the moment. So I'm starting to

602
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Speaker 2: worry with it. But I still We've got the greatest

603
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Speaker 2: game in the world.

604
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Speaker 1: I'm not worried about our game. Our game will survive anything,

605
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: which we've shown that. Look look at it right now.

606
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Speaker 2: If we lose a few big guns, who cares? We

607
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: move on?

608
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Speaker 1: Like, We've got so many talented players in our competition

609
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: and the brand is so strong right now. I don't

610
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Speaker 1: think it's because it's rugby unit anyway, so they're only

611
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: going to take a handful of lead players.

612
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:04,920
Speaker 2: We will survive.

613
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Speaker 4: If we do lose Zach Lomax and if your male

614
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: is right, Broth, that's a big loss. He is a

615
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: genuine rugby league star. He's a state of origin player.

616
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Speaker 4: He'll go on the Kangaroo tour or he was going

617
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 4: to the Kangaroo too, or I guess whether he is

618
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: picked may well break determine whether this depends. It's a

619
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Speaker 4: it's all speculation. I get that, but it's something we

620
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 4: have to keep monitoring. But I'm with you, Cruls. If

621
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 4: they break a contract, it's disrespecting the game of rugby league.

622
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Speaker 4: Go and earn your money, but you're not welcome back.

623
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 4: Then the line in the sand, you are barred for life.

624
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: You go back over time. We've lost some pretty good

625
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 4: players over the years. Gordon Wendell, Sailor, Lottie Dakiri Israel

626
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Speaker 4: for low Carmichael Hunts Sawali last year.

627
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

628
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Speaker 7: The game goes on when we where someone goes, someone

629
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Speaker 7: replaces them.

630
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Speaker 3: That's not a drama.

631
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Speaker 7: It's a contract situation and you've got to stand for something,

632
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Speaker 7: all right, Up.

633
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Speaker 1: Next we cross live to Adam Reynolds and tomorrow Australia

634
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Speaker 1: face New Zealand in the first T twenty. You can

635
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Speaker 1: catch all the action live from four pm on Fox

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