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Speaker 1: From The Australian. Here's what's on the front. I'm christinaming it.

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, March twenty one, twenty twenty five. Someone's doing

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Speaker 1: The Australian is revealing today the boss of Mitsubishi Motors

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Speaker 1: Australian dot com dot au. He's the former Burger flipper

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Speaker 1: who made his billions in online gambling. Lawrence Escalante is

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Speaker 1: one of the new faces of wealth in Australia, featured

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Speaker 1: in the list Australia's Richest two hundred and fifty. That's

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Speaker 1: today's episode. In the year fifty a d SO says

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Speaker 1: the Bible, the apostle Paul founded the Church of Corinth.

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Speaker 1: It was a bold play. Paul had written letters to

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Speaker 1: the Corinthians, giving them some frank feedback about their way

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Speaker 1: of life. Write. There Beside him in those early days

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Speaker 1: of the Catholic Church was Timothy, a disciple who became

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Speaker 1: one of Paul's most trusted friends, the guy Paul sent

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Speaker 1: out on his trickiest missions. Also along for the ride

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Speaker 1: was the Greek apostle Titus, a gentile from Antioch. All

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Speaker 1: three would be canonized as saints, but only the latter two,

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Speaker 1: Timothy and Titus, would reach a new generation of Christians

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Speaker 1: in video game form. A devout Catholic and avid gamer,

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Escalante, sensed an opportunity. There was Christian music, Christian movies,

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Speaker 1: Christian TV shows, but video games. Inspired by the Almighty Nothing, Escalante,

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Speaker 1: who was in the early two thousands a twenty three

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Speaker 1: year old financial planner living in Perth, bought and re

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Speaker 1: mortgaged his parents' home to raise the quarter of a

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Speaker 1: million dollars necessary to develop the game. Timothy and Titus

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Speaker 1: Saints Martyr's Heroes. Our tale begins as Saint Timothy and

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Speaker 1: Saint Titus are going to Rome to collect their letters

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Speaker 1: from Saint Paul and to hear news from their beloved

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Speaker 1: friend and father in christ. I'm looking forwards with my friend.

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Speaker 1: I've made this journey with him before. There's the shortcut

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Speaker 1: through the mountains. Follow me. But the dream of a

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Speaker 1: Christian gaming franchise died with the game's publisher, whose financial

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Speaker 1: troubles landed Escalante in a two hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollar hole of his own friend. What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: You must get out of here, not that you'd know it.

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Speaker 1: While he worked off the debt, Escalante gained his way

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Speaker 1: to a more than four billion dollar fortune and the

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Speaker 1: front cover of the list Australia's Richest two hundred and fifty.

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Speaker 2: Lawrence Escalante is a forty three year old Perth billionaire

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Speaker 2: who loves loves his fast cars, loves his jets and

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Speaker 2: loves living the high life. But he is a man.

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Speaker 2: He's made a lot of money out of essentially a gaming.

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Speaker 1: John Stenzelt is the editor of the list, which is

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Speaker 1: out in full today.

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Speaker 2: So it's a business that he calls virtual gaming worlds

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Speaker 2: combined together, so gaming being the sort of gambling or

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Speaker 2: casino games that people play online and the virtual world

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Speaker 2: where people go gamify. These experiences he's put them together

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Speaker 2: used a sweepstakes model. On top of that, I made

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Speaker 2: a lot of money, mostly in America. It's actually something

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Speaker 2: that's banned here in Australia, but Virtual Gaming WALS has

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Speaker 2: actually turned into one of Australia's biggest private companies.

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Speaker 1: Laurence Escalante got his start flipping burgers for five dollars

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Speaker 1: sixty five an hour at Hungry Jack's and later did

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Speaker 1: Shop while he studied at mcquarie University. Now older and

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Speaker 1: a whole lot wiser, he flaunce his considerable wealth on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: where he posts highly produced videos of his luxury cars,

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Speaker 1: friends first and foremost. But now that I've ad it

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Speaker 1: was like enjoying the toys and really a lot of

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Speaker 1: other people like enjoying them as as a proxy into

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Speaker 1: having fun of them. Really, the wealth that Lawrence Escalante

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Speaker 1: has accumulated is essentially a product of online gambling. As

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Speaker 1: we've just said, that's a pretty big swing for a

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Speaker 1: guy who hoped to bring his Christian values to a

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Speaker 1: How does he reconcile his wealth and his wealth from

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Speaker 1: gambling with those values? Is he still religious?

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Speaker 2: He insists that behind all that there's a quite a

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Speaker 2: pious family. His parents in the Philippines, very Christian family,

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Speaker 2: grew up with those sort of values. I suppose in

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Speaker 2: terms of gambling. What he said to me when I

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Speaker 2: asked him that question is several problem gamblers in the family.

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Speaker 2: I know what it's like. And it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 2: he's not cognizant of the fact that what he's doing.

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Speaker 2: You know, people have a choice whether they're going to

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Speaker 2: things like that. So look, you could argue that it

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Speaker 2: maybe he's being a little bit cute about it. He

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Speaker 2: exists what he's doing is legal, and he's reconciled that

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Speaker 1: He also talks about the checks and balances that they've

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Speaker 1: from going down that route. What does he say about

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Speaker 2: See, what he's done is raise the age of eighteen

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Speaker 2: He claims that they're doing quite well with artificial intelligence

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Speaker 2: and other sort of parameters where they will cut people

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Speaker 2: off if they're spending too much money. He has a

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Speaker 2: background in financial planning, one of the things he did

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Speaker 2: before getting into this business. With power planning, it sounds

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Speaker 2: pretty boring going through people's financial plans or investment plans

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Speaker 2: and giving them advice. So he claims that with that

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Speaker 2: too much or too much money is coming out of

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Speaker 2: their budget. People should be allowed to have an entertainment budget.

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Speaker 2: He says. Part of that entertainment is gambling. If you

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Speaker 2: want to do that now, he reckons it's pretty good

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Speaker 2: with keeping those checks and balances in place. He's got

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Speaker 2: the technology overlay with that. Of course, there is always

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Speaker 2: going to be critics, always is with any sort of

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Speaker 2: gambling company, whether it's crypto or horse racing or the

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Speaker 2: sweepsakes model that Lawrence employs. I think he's not hiding

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Speaker 2: to nothing with that. No matter what he says, really

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Speaker 1: Him coming up. What Lawrence Escalante's rise says about wealth

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Speaker 1: in Australia today. John Stanzeltz says Lawrence Escalante represents a

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Speaker 1: new kind of billionaire, young, driven and loving every minute

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Speaker 1: of it. He appears on this year's Rich's two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty list alongside youngster Ed Craven and Tim Heath,

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Speaker 1: both crypto gambling mavens, as well as colorful Melbourne figure

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Speaker 1: Adrian Putta. Here's the billionaire who's been splashing his cash

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Speaker 1: around for years, and today Adrian Patelli handed some of

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Speaker 1: it out, no strings attached, a drink. Chris Samsworth doesn't

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Speaker 2: It's the least we can do.

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Speaker 1: May you do you think we'll see more people from

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Speaker 1: in coming years.

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Speaker 2: I think there's two separate elements to that. With Craven

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Speaker 2: and also Tim Heath, they've gone global, so they've taken

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Speaker 2: the Australian sort of I suppose acumen. You know, we're

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Speaker 2: a nation of gamblers. It is an element of our society.

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Speaker 2: Whether you're like it or not, that's there. They've taken

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Speaker 2: that Australian acumen and gone global with it with the

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Speaker 2: new technologies that we have. So they've benefited from the

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Speaker 2: role out of it acround the world, not necessarily just

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Speaker 2: here in Australia. I think they will keep going. There's

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Speaker 2: their footsteps. I think that's here to stay. Quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: as long as people still want to put money on

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Speaker 2: a sporting event or on a horse playing casino, these

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Speaker 2: guys are going to make it pretty easier for them

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Speaker 2: to do that.

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Speaker 1: And just lastly, you've written in your editor's letter that

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Speaker 1: this new crop of billionaires represent the changing nature of

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Speaker 1: wealth in Australia. Generally, tell me a bit about that.

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Speaker 1: How has the list changed in your time as the editor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you've gone from a lot of people

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Speaker 2: that took decades to make their money, whether it was

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Speaker 2: in bricks and mortar, in real estate or manufacturing, the

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Speaker 2: slow accumulation of wealth, whereas these days, with technology, you

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Speaker 2: can create a gambling company, you can create a software company.

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Speaker 2: Here in Australia. Your market's the world and that what

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Speaker 2: that means is you make your money a lot quicker

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Speaker 2: that with the young generations upon sean, if you want

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Speaker 2: to call it that, for social media sharing, what they're

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Speaker 2: doing online, their lifestyle seems to be splashed all over

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Speaker 2: their social media and that's I think that's what really

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Speaker 2: encapsulates the modern billionaire.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they are their own brand indeed. John Stenzel is

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Speaker 1: the editor of the list Australia's Richest two hundred and fifty.

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