WEBVTT - Paul Murray Live | 4 December

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<v Speaker 1>From the Skying Center. This is Paul Murray Live. Can

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<v Speaker 1>I get even lots to talk about tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do our best with the sixty minutes that we've

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<v Speaker 2>got to tell you about the other twenty three hours today,

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do our best.

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<v Speaker 1>There's lots around. Thank you so much for watching. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I'll let you in a little secret. We are getting

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<v Speaker 1>towards the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure we don't flip stumps like some radio stations did

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, or most over at Taxpayer

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<v Speaker 2>Television will know this week we'll push a little closer

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<v Speaker 2>to Christmas. But we are starting to look at doing

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff. That's looking back at the year of which

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<v Speaker 2>we have all been living. It's not a surprise. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that time of the year, right, the best of this

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<v Speaker 2>and the worst of that, and the winner here and

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<v Speaker 2>the loser and all the rest of it. But I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to and part of that is that I've gone

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<v Speaker 2>back and.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a look at some of the things that happened

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<v Speaker 1>this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Remembering January of this year, the Prime Minister, after a

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<v Speaker 2>crappy set of numbers in twenty twenty three, particularly after

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<v Speaker 2>the voice Oh here he was, he was ready for

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<v Speaker 2>what was referred to at the time as a reset,

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<v Speaker 2>because you see he was ready to press the reset button.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything was going to get better this year. Well, how

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<v Speaker 2>is everything looking at the end of the year for

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<v Speaker 2>the Prime minister?

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<v Speaker 1>How did that reset work?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if you like looking like I do at the bookies,

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<v Speaker 2>because they were right about the American election when the

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<v Speaker 2>polls were very wrong about the American election. Tonight, the

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<v Speaker 2>Coalition favorites to be the next government after the next election,

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<v Speaker 2>most likely a minority, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Still that is what is the suggestion of the bookies.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, Poles are either fifty to fifty or ever

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<v Speaker 2>so slightly leaning.

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<v Speaker 1>The Coalition's way.

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<v Speaker 2>And today Peter Dutton was out and about talking with

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<v Speaker 2>Candadaate so he thinks will be able to take on

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<v Speaker 2>the Teals. Remember the single biggest hurdle for the opposition

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<v Speaker 2>to get over before they can get into the minority

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<v Speaker 2>government game litt alone a majority government game is of

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<v Speaker 2>course the Teals. I'll explain part of what happened with

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton today on the northern beaches of Sydney, but

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<v Speaker 2>there was another piece of information buried in the backbits

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<v Speaker 2>of the Turnbull Times.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it shows that.

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<v Speaker 2>This government is starting to get into Morrison government territory.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a government that was onto its third prime minister

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<v Speaker 2>going for its fourth term. This is the bloke who

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<v Speaker 2>of course defeated that government. Yet many of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Parallels between a government that is about to go and

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<v Speaker 1>the one that currently does.

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<v Speaker 2>Has been noted that just thirty eight percent of Australian

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<v Speaker 2>voters have confidence in the federal government. This is pretty

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<v Speaker 2>close to where Morrison was when he was voted out

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<v Speaker 2>of office with the government in May twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>The study has also got deeper concerning issues for the

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<v Speaker 2>Albanesi government. Seventeen point four percent of respondent said they

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<v Speaker 2>had no confidence at.

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<v Speaker 1>All in the federal government.

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<v Speaker 2>For four point eight says not very much, so the

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<v Speaker 2>extreme bulk.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't have much confidence.

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<v Speaker 2>You put it together with those that have none, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a clear majority of people who don't have confidence

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<v Speaker 2>in the current mob. And this is the last round

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<v Speaker 2>of polling on this subject going into the next federal election.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty two percent say quite a lot, but that's basically

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<v Speaker 2>their primary vote, and just five percent say they have

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<v Speaker 2>a great deal of confidence because presumably the pastors kept

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<v Speaker 2>ringing Kiribilly House.

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<v Speaker 1>Trust in the federal government is also eroded.

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<v Speaker 2>The proportion of total population saying they don't trust the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government has gone from forty in a bit at

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<v Speaker 2>the previous election, a change election, to forty eight point

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<v Speaker 2>one percent as a government is going for its second term. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>if there was not the tal question, we would very

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<v Speaker 2>much be talking about the likelihood of a government being tipped.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to see some data, we have to see

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. But the book you seem to have a

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<v Speaker 2>clearer vision than maybe the posters and certainly many people

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<v Speaker 2>who talk professionally about politics. And we all know why

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<v Speaker 2>this is the case. Apart from all of the many

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<v Speaker 2>frustrating things about this government, its central purpose for being

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<v Speaker 2>was the promise that I have shown you every second

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<v Speaker 2>night for the past three years, the promise that if

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<v Speaker 2>you voted for the Labor Party then cost of living

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<v Speaker 2>would get better. I keep showing you this because they

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<v Speaker 2>want to hide this. They want to hide that this

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<v Speaker 2>was their central promise, yet they have not been able

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<v Speaker 2>to deliver on it. Today in the Australian newspaper we

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<v Speaker 2>made a quick reference to this in conversation last.

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<v Speaker 1>Night, but I want to take the time here.

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<v Speaker 2>They publish a thing called the Nationwide Voter Research and

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<v Speaker 2>it showed the number one issue thirty three percent, is

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<v Speaker 2>still cost of living. We are going into our third

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<v Speaker 2>hed Christmas in a row under this cloud of cost

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<v Speaker 2>of living. I have shown you multiple times that under

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<v Speaker 2>this government a million people have come to the country

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<v Speaker 2>of iroent migration, yet barely barely enough houses are being

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<v Speaker 2>built or approved to be built to even deal with

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<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe a third of it. Thirty nine percent of

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<v Speaker 2>people in this survey said that they struggled to pay

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<v Speaker 2>their rent or their mortgage. That'd be because, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>under this government that was going to bring down the

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<v Speaker 2>cost of living, interest rates have gone up twelve times

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<v Speaker 2>when it was one under the previous government, the sky

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<v Speaker 2>was falling on was a full blown cost of living crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what do you say when it's twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirty six percent have gone without essentials like food, medicine,

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<v Speaker 2>or education. Put simply, any government in any other time

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<v Speaker 2>with numbers like this is a debt duck with an

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<v Speaker 2>almost certain bleak future in front of it. But because

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<v Speaker 2>there are a group of people in a group of seats.

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<v Speaker 2>We are not looking at that as the seemingly inevitable outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, if there is a surprise result next year,

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<v Speaker 2>there is no surprise. The government promised to make life better.

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<v Speaker 2>It has got worse. The government turns around and says, well,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be even worse if we.

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<v Speaker 1>Weren't in charge. This was the garbage from Grimjim today.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Australians would be much worse off, and growth in

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<v Speaker 3>our economy would be even weaker without our responsible and

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<v Speaker 3>balanced approach to the budget and without our cost of

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<v Speaker 3>living support.

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<v Speaker 1>But guess what we are worse off.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've heard this a bit tonight, but can

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<v Speaker 2>I give you some of the info maybe you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>heard thus far. Here the story today about economic growth

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<v Speaker 2>was there basically isn't any put Simply, if the Australian

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<v Speaker 2>economy was a car, it's out of tune and it's

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<v Speaker 2>idling at best, slightly moving forward, like when you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have your foot on the break because it's not in

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<v Speaker 2>tune properly. Or I'll let professional TV people tell you

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<v Speaker 2>their version.

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<v Speaker 4>It grew by just a fraction in the past quarter,

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<v Speaker 4>the weakest figures in thirty years outside COVID.

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<v Speaker 5>National Accounts data revealing a bleak reality, the economy crawling.

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<v Speaker 5>The economy has slowed to a crawl with the latest

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<v Speaker 5>GDP figures out today.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the enthusiasm with which they have to bring bad

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<v Speaker 2>news to people now. Of course, just in case you

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<v Speaker 2>think it's me trying to find a political way through

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<v Speaker 2>to twist the numbers and push this in that which

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do. I just give you the data, bricks

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<v Speaker 2>and mortar, and the mortar is the opinion. The bricks

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<v Speaker 2>is always the data. Here's some of the other reviews

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<v Speaker 2>about just how bad today is. GDP growth surprisingly weak,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the government spending more money than any government ever before.

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<v Speaker 2>Sad economy without hope, deepest hit to living standards on record.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh but weren't they going to make everything better?

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<v Speaker 2>Their fundamental promise is broken and they made it worse,

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<v Speaker 2>even taxpayer media. Australia's economy growing at the slowest pace

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<v Speaker 2>in decades, propped up by government spending, something that the

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<v Speaker 2>government today was said was a Liberal Party talking point. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the facts. In the Daily Mail, the brutal reality

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<v Speaker 2>of life under Anthony Albernezi as economy grows at weakest

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<v Speaker 2>payace in more than three decades. John keyah excellently writes,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no amount of lipstick on this pig that can

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<v Speaker 2>hide economic stagnation.

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<v Speaker 1>To give you again, more detail, more.

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<v Speaker 2>Information for you when you end up having to fight

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<v Speaker 2>with what seemingly seems to be a smaller number of

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<v Speaker 2>people who think, Oh, everything's great, everything's fine, everything's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>The economy grew zero point three that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how that looked in reverse.

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<v Speaker 2>It made sense to me zero point three percent in

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<v Speaker 2>the past three months. To give you an idea, since

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty, this is what the Australian economy looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh but it's all COVID, isn't it, Paul. Now, we

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<v Speaker 2>shot back after COVID and then we changed the government

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<v Speaker 2>and it's got worse ever since. Oh but that's a

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<v Speaker 2>soft landing. What the soft landing of economic growth to zero?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's happening right now. But the real story inside

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<v Speaker 2>all of this is what you are living. What the

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<v Speaker 2>opinion polls show us. But what this program and I

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<v Speaker 2>have been relentlessly focused on because I knew this would

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<v Speaker 2>be the outcome of this government. I didn't give them

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<v Speaker 2>a second chance or even a first chance. You knew

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<v Speaker 2>what was coming with this mob. You knew the a

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<v Speaker 2>mus that they made that millions of people fell for

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<v Speaker 2>was a lie.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a lie on power prices, It was a

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<v Speaker 1>lie on cost of living.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you see, while the press release today says that

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<v Speaker 2>Australia is not in a recession, the reality is that

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<v Speaker 2>per capita, Australia is in a recession and has been

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<v Speaker 2>now for seven quarters in a row. To give you

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<v Speaker 2>an idea of how this has worked, it started in

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<v Speaker 2>the June quarter of twenty twenty three zero point two

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<v Speaker 2>minus minus zero point three, minus zero point four, minus

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<v Speaker 2>zero point five minus zero point three put it all together,

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<v Speaker 2>in the past twelve months, the per capita recession is

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<v Speaker 2>minus one and a half percent. Now, the overall economy

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<v Speaker 2>that the government is going to give itself marks on

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<v Speaker 2>is one that essentially on the exists in the federal budget.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of the people who actually pay for the

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<v Speaker 2>federal budget being the companies who pay their company tax.

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<v Speaker 2>There's great difficulties out there from a small business trying

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<v Speaker 2>to pay its power bills to paying its wages or

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<v Speaker 2>to the customers of those businesses. The citizens who are

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<v Speaker 2>paying a higher percentage of tax than ever before in

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<v Speaker 2>Australia for services that we know do not increase with

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of tax take that they have in Canberra.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, we know that unless there was the seemingly

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<v Speaker 2>lucky moment when it came to iron ore and other

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<v Speaker 2>mining taxes, the government would be deeply in deficit.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the plan is, and the Treasury said it themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've said it plenty that you can say it

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<v Speaker 2>back with me, there is a structural deficit in the

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<v Speaker 2>Australian budget. That means we are going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>deficit until the twenty sixties, when forty one million people

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<v Speaker 2>will apparently live in Australia.

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<v Speaker 1>But even when we.

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<v Speaker 2>Get close to include increasing our population by such a margin,

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<v Speaker 2>creating all those workers, all of those customers, the government

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<v Speaker 2>will be wildly spending too much money because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>even with that amount of extra people have the income

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<v Speaker 2>to cover it. But the per capita recession simply means

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<v Speaker 2>that when two quarters in a row, and now it's

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<v Speaker 2>been seven, when the value of your dollar goes down,

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<v Speaker 2>the capacity for you to buy things goes down, and

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of dollars that you spend also goes down

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the effectiveness of that dollar, a point

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<v Speaker 2>Peter Dutton made today.

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<v Speaker 6>The government can sugarcoat all they want, but the fact is,

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<v Speaker 6>as the Reserve Bank governor keeps pointing out, it's the

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<v Speaker 6>government's reckless spending that drives up inflation and therefore keeps

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<v Speaker 6>interest rates.

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<v Speaker 1>Higher for longer.

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<v Speaker 2>But again, if you ask Jim Chalmers, everything is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. Sorry, that's what he was thinking. This is what he.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, rather avoid a hard landing than clean up after one.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're seeing elements of a soft landing here and

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<v Speaker 3>that gives us encouragement that acknowledging people are still doing

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<v Speaker 3>it tough and growth is still weak in the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>If we'd made the sorts of decisions urged on us

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<v Speaker 3>by our opponents and our critics, growth would be weaker

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<v Speaker 3>and people would be getting less help and they'd be

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<v Speaker 3>worse off.

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<v Speaker 2>See this, this isn't even like a shell game, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they put a p under the thing and work out

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<v Speaker 2>which one is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even a three card Monte trick. It's just bs.

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<v Speaker 2>The citizens of this country have been in a recession

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<v Speaker 2>for seven quarters in a row. The Australian economy technically

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<v Speaker 2>isn't in a recession because point one point two point

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<v Speaker 2>three point four point two point one oath, which only

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<v Speaker 2>exists because the federal government is hiring thirty thousand new

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<v Speaker 2>public servants, giving a pay rise to all public servants,

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<v Speaker 2>exemplified by the politicians getting not one to three pay

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<v Speaker 2>rises since the last election. Other private sector pay rises

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<v Speaker 2>are being supplemented by the taxpayer baking that money.

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<v Speaker 1>Into the budget.

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<v Speaker 2>Hence why it goes into deficit for the next forty years.

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<v Speaker 1>We effectively are.

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<v Speaker 2>In a recession of But the soft landing that he

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<v Speaker 2>talks about here is this idea that effectively, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that the citizenry and the household, regardless of what

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<v Speaker 2>they own and where they live, is going backwards, because

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<v Speaker 2>we can put out the press release saying that we're

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<v Speaker 2>still sputtering forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that's the soft landing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a soft landing for treasury, it's a soft landing

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<v Speaker 2>for the politicians.

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<v Speaker 1>But for normal people, their.

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<v Speaker 2>Back is right up against the world and they are

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<v Speaker 2>on the wall and they are in a world of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is part of the problem for the Reserve Bank.

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<v Speaker 2>You see, despite the fact that the citizenry is in recession,

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<v Speaker 2>but the press releases are not in recession. They won't

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<v Speaker 2>cut interest rates. Now that's not me saying I want

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<v Speaker 2>us to be in a recession. It's just saying we

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<v Speaker 2>are in a recession. But they won't. They think there's

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<v Speaker 2>enough growth there, there's enough real inflation there. Not the

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<v Speaker 2>bs that gets covered up by twenty five dollars a

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<v Speaker 2>month to everyone who lives from a mansion to a

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<v Speaker 2>one bedroom unit in Charters toowers. And I'm not picking

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<v Speaker 2>on Charter's towers. I'd move there tomorrow. I love the joint,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the driving. Say gooday to the gang for me

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<v Speaker 2>next time you go there. Good double features on Friday

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<v Speaker 2>and Sunday night, Good low prices under ten bucks to

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<v Speaker 2>good people.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reality is is that the government is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to fiddle the books.

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<v Speaker 2>They try to fiddle the books to make it look

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<v Speaker 2>like they are delivering on promises when you know that

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<v Speaker 2>they are not. The central promise, of course, that everything

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<v Speaker 2>would get better, but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Eventually, but it hasn't in the period of time that

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<v Speaker 2>the people who applied for the job said the reason

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<v Speaker 2>to give them the job was because it was going

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<v Speaker 2>to get better in their first tranch of being in

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<v Speaker 2>the job. We'll discuss whether the Reserve Bank will do

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<v Speaker 2>something different this month than they have for the many

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<v Speaker 2>months before. Because while the government plays all of these games,

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<v Speaker 2>the reality is that there's a people that are in

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<v Speaker 2>a world of pain otherwise known as us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Also when it comes to some of the politics heading

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<v Speaker 2>into this next election, and tonight again I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about the how the Liberal Party

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to put together a strategy to get the Teals,

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<v Speaker 2>what the limits to some of that is, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the candidates that are now going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>ones they're going to be taking them on. Bromwin Bishop

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<v Speaker 2>very close to some of those one of her old

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<v Speaker 2>seed of course liberal for ages went Teal. She's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be part of the effort to try to win

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<v Speaker 2>it back. But we'll get to that in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, the Poles keep telling that when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to the Prime Minister and the alternative Prime Minister, that

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<v Speaker 2>things are.

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<v Speaker 1>Relatively razor thin.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, the latest newspol says that things are as

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned before, fifty to fifty, a former Labor senator

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<v Speaker 2>says that both sides have a chance of forming a

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<v Speaker 2>minority government. And again today Peter Dudden was on the

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<v Speaker 2>northern beaches of Sydney where he unveiled two candidates who

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<v Speaker 2>he thinks will be able to knock off at least one,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe two of the Teals.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, this is what he said in James and Jamie.

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<v Speaker 6>We have two exceptional candidates who I think will do

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<v Speaker 6>a great job for the local community.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we win these seats back, we win.

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<v Speaker 6>Government and we can stop the Albanisi government from destroying

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<v Speaker 6>the livelihoods of many Australians.

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<v Speaker 1>We can get our country back on track.

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<v Speaker 2>But if there is a minority government that is built

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<v Speaker 2>of the left, it won't just be lefty Teals. It

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<v Speaker 2>will of course be the Greens who think that they

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<v Speaker 2>will be in the driver's seat when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>deciding what will happen in the next parliament.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully not, but still.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Band was out and about in the past couple

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<v Speaker 2>of days basically saying that he would like to share

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<v Speaker 2>power if he helps prop up a Labor government.

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<v Speaker 1>Now Labor, of course will say no, I will do

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<v Speaker 1>no formal deals. There will be no formal ministries.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you can't pass a single law in the

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<v Speaker 2>Lower House or the Upper House, then guests who ends

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<v Speaker 2>up having the power and by default they end up

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<v Speaker 2>being the ones to decide if the government can achieve

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<v Speaker 2>anything in the next parliament. Well, here's Adam Band talking

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<v Speaker 2>himself up in the past couple of days about what

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<v Speaker 2>his prospects are post a minority government.

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<v Speaker 1>As we go to the next election.

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<v Speaker 7>The Greens position will be keep Peter Dutton out and

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<v Speaker 7>push the next government to act on things like health

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<v Speaker 7>and housing and climate and environmental.

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<v Speaker 1>Watch this space. They are not hiding. They are in

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<v Speaker 1>plane sight.

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<v Speaker 2>They think that they can take a couple of seats

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<v Speaker 2>off the Labor Party. The Labor Party spending billions of

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<v Speaker 2>dollars trying to stop that from happening, or maybe win

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<v Speaker 2>one back because they know they're going to lose seats

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<v Speaker 2>in Western Australia because they didn't expect to win that many.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe one in Tasmania because they're in a world of

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<v Speaker 2>trouble there. Don't get me started on Queensland and constantly

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<v Speaker 2>knocking back projects in the Northern territory, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>having the old spend more time at the tennis than

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<v Speaker 2>actually going to Alice Springs and talking about the problems there.

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<v Speaker 2>People remember, they don't forget there's a good chance that

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<v Speaker 2>they will of course get to that minority based off

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<v Speaker 2>all of those scenarios, and God to help us all

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<v Speaker 2>if the Greens end up in the driver's seat or

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<v Speaker 2>being the tail that wags the elbow dog. In state politics,

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<v Speaker 2>the Cruciofoily government in Queensland is now in full swing.

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<v Speaker 2>Parliament has been sworn in and the first pieces of

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<v Speaker 2>legislation are making its way through.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate this.

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<v Speaker 2>Tradition of all the speaker doesn't want to be the

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<v Speaker 2>speaker despite the fact that they really want to be

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<v Speaker 2>a speaker. They get extra money all the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 2>so they get dragged to the seat.

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<v Speaker 1>But still whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, David Krustofoley has delivered on the promise that he

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<v Speaker 2>made all the way through the election and the lead

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<v Speaker 2>up to it, which was it is time to get

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<v Speaker 2>serious about youth crime. And that means if you are

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<v Speaker 2>somebody under the age of eighteen who commits a crime

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody over the age of eighteen would commit, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to jail for just as long.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to be clear, we campaigned on adult crime, adult

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<v Speaker 4>time we campaign that it'd be laws by Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>We will fulfill that now.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be impossible for even the most labor loyal

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<v Speaker 2>spinners in the media in Queensland to say that this

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<v Speaker 2>government does not just have a majority, but they have

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<v Speaker 2>a mandate to deal with youth crime front and center

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere we've gone in Queensland. It is the a one issue.

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<v Speaker 2>But there are some people who just don't like democracy.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd have to think that because despite the fact they

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<v Speaker 2>knew these laws were not just proposed but endorsed by

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<v Speaker 2>the people of Queensland, giving a government a majority to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to pass them in the Parliament unencumbered, they're

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<v Speaker 2>all out and about trying to tear the laws down

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<v Speaker 2>before they even make it to being gazetted by the Governor.

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<v Speaker 3>Sus just another slick forward slogan from David Crisafurli. Human

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<v Speaker 3>rights and yet advocacy groups say the policy will do

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<v Speaker 3>more harm.

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<v Speaker 1>Than good strategy at odds with international studies. According to experts.

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<v Speaker 8>The threat of increased penalties doesn't work with young people

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<v Speaker 8>because they're not thinking about the penalties of their behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>But the test of a politician is whether they are

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<v Speaker 2>willing to back their own idea, but also call out

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<v Speaker 2>the many people who fill the media with their views

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<v Speaker 2>about why the government is doing the wrong thing. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>this government is not a year old, it's not two

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<v Speaker 2>years old. We'll wait and see whether the lefty judges

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<v Speaker 2>get the message or whether it's all just about talking

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<v Speaker 2>about maximums and you need to start doing things about minimums.

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<v Speaker 2>But just like Lea Fanukiaro, the Northern Territory Chief Minister,

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<v Speaker 2>when she was confronted with a collection of protesters who

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want the many jobs that come with gas projects

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<v Speaker 2>in the Northern Territory, she said, can you just buger

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<v Speaker 2>off back to Melbourne because we know the people of

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<v Speaker 2>the territory didn't just vote for it. They gave us

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<v Speaker 2>some majority and they want these particular projects. David Crucifoilie

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<v Speaker 2>has a message for those who want to ignore what

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<v Speaker 2>the Queensland people voted for, just.

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<v Speaker 1>On some of those commentary.

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<v Speaker 4>In many cases it's the same people who led to

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<v Speaker 4>the same situation for the last decade. We are a

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<v Speaker 4>different government and we are taking a different approach that

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<v Speaker 4>puts victims first across the spectrum. And I think if

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<v Speaker 4>you reflect whilst there will be different views on some elements. There,

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<v Speaker 4>there's also been some strong views of support about our

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<v Speaker 4>desire for early intervention.

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<v Speaker 2>Now to the future of the country, education, a subject

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<v Speaker 2>that again committed to talking about all the time. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why use the Royal Wi. You just don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say I met me, me, me, me a

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<v Speaker 2>hundred times, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the point. I talk about it a lot, not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because my kids are involved with it, but because

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<v Speaker 2>it is the future of the country. And you may

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<v Speaker 2>all have seen a collection of stories today around the

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<v Speaker 2>nap Land tests, the ones that have checked in multiple

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<v Speaker 2>years about reading, writing, spelling, grammar and.

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<v Speaker 1>Mats.

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<v Speaker 2>You may have seen things like you know the best

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<v Speaker 2>results and where to and go onto this website and

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<v Speaker 2>find out how your local school did. And that's great

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<v Speaker 2>because today they broke down all of those results by schools.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's one thing we have to remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, some schools are doing okay, and some public schools

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<v Speaker 2>are doing better than some private schools, and some co

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<v Speaker 2>ed schools do better than sing I get it right,

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<v Speaker 2>but have a look at the overall picture in Australia,

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<v Speaker 2>because this is tragic. I went for the deep dive

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<v Speaker 2>into the national results today. Now there are two categories

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<v Speaker 2>that basically are the old pass fail sort of under

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent mark, and these are people who need additional support,

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<v Speaker 2>which is code for really struggling or developing, which means

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<v Speaker 2>not quite the standard yet. Have a look at this

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<v Speaker 2>about year three, year five, year seven, and year nine.

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<v Speaker 1>There are thirty one percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Of kids in year three who need help with reading,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one percent struggle with writing, thirty seven with spelling,

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<v Speaker 2>forty four percent with grammar and punctuation, thirty four percent,

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<v Speaker 2>or I should say forty four percent and thirty four

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<v Speaker 2>percent with numeracy in year five. I always get nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, because when you're trying to get on

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<v Speaker 2>your high horse about education, if you mispronounce something or

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<v Speaker 2>something's poorly spelled on the screen.

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<v Speaker 1>We all know what people, But my point stands, all right, a.

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<v Speaker 2>Small team doing an awful lot of work, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>In year five, twenty six point nine percent of kids

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<v Speaker 2>are struggling with reading, thirty point nine with writing, thirty

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<v Speaker 2>point six with spelling, thirty three point six with grammar

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<v Speaker 2>and punctuation, and thirty and a half percent of year

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<v Speaker 2>five kids struggle with basic numeracy. Once you get to

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<v Speaker 2>high school. How the hell is a third having trouble

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<v Speaker 2>with reading and writing?

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<v Speaker 1>How a quarter having trouble with spelling?

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.159
<v Speaker 2>How are thirty seven percent having a problem with grammar

0:25:32.200 --> 0:25:37.560
<v Speaker 2>and punctuation and again thirty one point three percent with numeracy?

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<v Speaker 2>So then, okay, maybe there's a little hangover from primary school.

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<v Speaker 1>What about year nine?

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<v Speaker 2>You are one year short of being able to leave

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:49.960
<v Speaker 2>school if you want to win Year ten, thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>percent are in the additional support or developing section of reading,

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven in writing, twenty six in spelling, forty three

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 2>in grammar and punctuation, thirty four percent in numeracy. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>I have said a thousand times that when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to many of the things they test at school, I

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<v Speaker 2>am as dumb as the bricks that are behind us here, right,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:14.560
<v Speaker 2>I bombed out big in school, and I am a

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<v Speaker 2>high functioning dyslexic. All right, you may well notice that

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes when I'm trying to read, or try to read

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes without our glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know what it's like to struggle at school.

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<v Speaker 2>I was one of the kids who in year twelve

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<v Speaker 2>had to ask for assistance why because my.

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<v Speaker 1>Handwriting was so bad? That's my fault.

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>But my handwriting was so bad it looked like a

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<v Speaker 2>drunk doctor's handwriting so way back when when they were

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<v Speaker 2>run by the Commodore sixty four, I had to type

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<v Speaker 2>things out rather than write them, and even then I

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<v Speaker 2>still bombed out in my HSC. It's a whole series

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<v Speaker 2>of wonderful reasons why I get to sit here tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and use what skills I have to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>make the arguments that we make each and every night.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm proud that I'm able to overcome those things.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of people don't. And that means that

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<v Speaker 2>we spend three hundred billion dollars in the past ten

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.280
<v Speaker 2>years on our schools. But all of those things show

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 2>us we're going backwards. So great, okay, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to double check whether your school went well

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<v Speaker 2>or otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are plenty of kids in plenty of schools

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<v Speaker 1>who are.

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<v Speaker 2>Going backwards, and we keep wasting money thinking that if

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<v Speaker 2>we do more of the same, somehow it will change

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>the result. That is the definition of insanity. Couple of

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<v Speaker 2>quick ones, Commonwealth Bank. We ripped into them last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and rightly so, because their decision was that they would

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<v Speaker 2>charge you to walk into their branch to withdraw your money.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a great conversation between somebody who's had the

0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:44.560
<v Speaker 2>terrible job of trying to spin this on a current

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:45.239
<v Speaker 2>affair last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done to Ali Langdon.

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<v Speaker 2>And her team for basically sort of pulling the wings

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<v Speaker 2>off the fly. Well, the good news is that within

0:27:52.880 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty four hours this thing's gone. It has now been

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<v Speaker 2>put on the backburner. The government's trying to pretend they

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<v Speaker 2>had a role in it. No, I think there might

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<v Speaker 2>be something else. I don't think grim Jum was involved in.

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<v Speaker 1>That at all.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a drug summit happening in New South Wales as

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<v Speaker 2>we speak. It is being chaired, among others by my

0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>mate John Brogden, the former boss of Lifeline, the former

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:14.440
<v Speaker 2>opposition leader and a man who would like to obviously

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<v Speaker 2>see things change for the better in New South Wales. Well, interestingly,

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.880
<v Speaker 2>there was somebody who spoke not to the conference locally

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<v Speaker 2>but from afar, and it was the boss of a

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<v Speaker 2>city in the state of Oregon.

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:28.119
<v Speaker 1>Now, Oregon is one of the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Super progressive, super lefty bits of the United States where

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<v Speaker 2>they kind of legalized everything. When it came to drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a warning for New South Wales or anywhere

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<v Speaker 2>else in Australia planning to do the same, because they've

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<v Speaker 2>actually reversed that policy.

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<v Speaker 8>In retrospect, it looks so obvious that if you don't

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<v Speaker 8>have the treatment resources available, what's the point of even

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<v Speaker 8>trying to incentivize people into detox or into sobering services

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<v Speaker 8>if they don't exist. But what the Measure one ten

0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 8>did was it almost completely eliminated law enforcement's role in

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<v Speaker 8>drug possession situations except their authority issue one hundred dollars cittion.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, also, if there are people who are expecting a

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:20.960
<v Speaker 2>drug legalization to come from both the libertarian world or

0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the lefty world like it has in the Act, it's

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>not going to be happening in New South Wales. Now

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>the laws have been loosened where some possession charges are

0:29:29.840 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>being dealt with more via caution and health. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Health Minister actually well kind of made the conference a

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>little bit useless because he's ruled out the decriminalization of

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 2>drugs in New South Wales.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>We all know that to Wikipedia not the most reliable

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:48.880
<v Speaker 2>source of information, but geez, don't millions.

0:29:48.560 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Of people go to it?

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 2>Ever so frequently, and today the list came out about

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the things that people have been viewing the most on

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Wikipedia pages around the world. The number one most looked

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<v Speaker 2>at thing deaths in twenty twenty four forty four point

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:08.040
<v Speaker 2>four million people. Then it was Kamala Harris, the American election,

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>the Menendez brothers twenty five million people double checking details

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 2>about Donald Trump. You'd imagine they would know by now,

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>the ipl jd vance, the movie Deadpool and Wolverine, Terrorble.

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 1>Project twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five, and the Indian election are what people look for

0:30:25.080 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 2>on Wikipedia. But Tonight to Night, of course, where we

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<v Speaker 2>talk to the wonderful Meghan Kelly, So a little primer

0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>about some of the American issues happening right now. Pete

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 2>Hagserth is a man who has served his country in

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.480
<v Speaker 2>the military. He's worked for many charity since and of

0:30:40.480 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 2>course most recently has been on television. He was named

0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 2>in a shock apparently to people, to be the Defense

0:30:48.520 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 2>secretary under Donald Trump. And the problem is lots of

0:30:51.560 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>people don't like his record, and there's lots of stories

0:30:54.280 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 2>about him both personally and well professionally before television, which

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.400
<v Speaker 2>are now starting to sink his chances. He doesn't exactly

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 2>look like a guy who is being embraced by the Senate.

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:07.560
<v Speaker 2>He looks like he's a naughty boy who's kind of

0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>working out that he's not going to be able to play.

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<v Speaker 1>With the cool kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So if he does not get confirmed, which seems to

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<v Speaker 2>be a bit likely, there's going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>A slam dunk choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently, according to the great people at the Wall Street Journal,

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<v Speaker 2>rond de Santis might be the person who will replace He,

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.800
<v Speaker 2>of course, served in the Navy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was a jag lawyer. Was he not well?

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<v Speaker 2>That, of course would mean that he would have to

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<v Speaker 2>leave the governor of Florida position. Now watch this for

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of musical chairs. You see, if he

0:31:38.560 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 2>goes up to the federal government, then his lieutenant governor,

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 2>basically the second in charge, would be promoted to become

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>the governor for the rest of the term, and it

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>would be her job to name a successor to Marco Rubio,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a senator from Florida who is also making

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<v Speaker 2>his way up to the big table of course, as

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<v Speaker 2>the Secretary of State, the chief diplomat for the United States,

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<v Speaker 2>Meaning that if the governor goes and senator goes, then

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 2>the Lieutenant governor will have to name a new senator.

0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 2>And that's where Lara Trump comes in. Now, remember, of course,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>Lara is not just the daughter in law, but also

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 2>is the boss of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party, a party that won.

0:32:20.000 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>She's a proud Floridian and of course you saw that

0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 2>great interview with her and Aaron Mullen available now YouTube

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>and it's sky News dot com dot AU. So that's

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 2>the primer of the musical chairs which might be happening

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>in and around Florida. Megan Kelly loves Florida, but she

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 2>doesn't live there, and we'll have her on the show

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>a bit later tonight.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh and ugly tan curtains behind her. That really did

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 5>make it look like something out of the USSR was

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 5>Have they captured her? Is she where she? Is it

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 5>Hawaii or is it Moscow? I can't quite tell.

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<v Speaker 2>I know now I've got to that stage in my

0:32:57.440 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 2>fat Guy for Zeke my dad that when I laugh,

0:33:02.440 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Google jiggle.

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:05.800
<v Speaker 1>She's the reason we're an HD.

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:08.680
<v Speaker 2>You can just split screen, but we'll pay a teacher

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 2>to everything she has to say a little bit later

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<v Speaker 2>in the show. Great debate coming up Bromen, Bishop Stephen Conroy.

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<v Speaker 2>So much to get into, from how the lips planning

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.160
<v Speaker 2>to take on the teals to will the Reserve Bank

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.720
<v Speaker 2>do anything different than they have during the country being

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>in a per capita recession, just getting started, big hour ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you we're doing the best we can with

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the hour we're got. Thanks for joining us.

0:33:33.520 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh, we always love this chat each and every week,

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<v Speaker 2>none other than the carry out a champ looking resplendent

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<v Speaker 2>in all of this color.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Bromwin, Bishop, very pre christmasy.

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<v Speaker 9>Of you, very pretty christmasy, and you know things are

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 9>looking good for the country if we get to change

0:33:45.640 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 9>the governor.

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:49.960
<v Speaker 1>She's on message. I love it and always just here

0:33:50.000 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>to help.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:53.200
<v Speaker 2>And you always know that he wants to talk about

0:33:53.200 --> 0:33:55.400
<v Speaker 2>something else when we go on the long history wander.

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<v Speaker 1>That's your version of the week, Steven Conroy. That's that

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I always know that. It's like so well, I will

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<v Speaker 1>take that.

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<v Speaker 7>I would take that as a compliment from you, given

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 7>how much you love Trump's weave.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct I do, and I love you too, mate, no

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.400
<v Speaker 2>question about all right, So let's talk about Peter Dutton

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 2>today on the northern beaches of Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>This matters not.

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Because it's a Sydney story, but because of course the

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 2>concentration of Teal seats all across Northern Beaches up into

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>North Sydney, that seat it doesn't exist, then over the

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 2>road into the eastern suburbs. So that's a pretty big

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 2>sway of Teal seats that if they can somehow flip them,

0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:33.839
<v Speaker 2>that would move them closer to the magic number of

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:37.600
<v Speaker 2>seventy six when the election takes place. Now, Bromin, one

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>of the people who is trying to take over from you,

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>James Brown, former boss of the RSL like, who seems

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.799
<v Speaker 2>to be pretty focused, pretty good. Jamie Rodgers has been

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.600
<v Speaker 2>announced as the candidate in Worringer.

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>As well, and she's a delightful lady.

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<v Speaker 2>But I just want to ask you what is the

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:59.360
<v Speaker 2>indicator that you see in and around the seat that

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:02.919
<v Speaker 2>results in anything different than where it was three years ago.

0:35:02.920 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Because we know what the Teals are going to do,

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:07.040
<v Speaker 2>we know all the volunteers are going to have all

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>the extra posters and all the extra money. But what

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:13.359
<v Speaker 2>are you noticing about one of those bricks being moved?

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 9>Well, let me tell you what's the most important indicator

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 9>for me, and that was the no vote. Now the

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 9>Liberal Party in New South Wales was the discrece It

0:35:23.680 --> 0:35:26.480
<v Speaker 9>did not back the Liberal Party per se did not

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 9>back the federal leader. So you had Speakmer not backing it,

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:32.760
<v Speaker 9>you had the state executive not backing it, but did mckeller.

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<v Speaker 9>We had seventy six people who work very very hard.

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.520
<v Speaker 9>We had good leadership from one of our branches, from

0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:46.960
<v Speaker 9>the Avalon branch and where people work very hard on prepoles.

0:35:47.280 --> 0:35:51.160
<v Speaker 9>The final vote was zero point nine percent away from

0:35:51.200 --> 0:35:52.400
<v Speaker 9>being fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, okay, so we got forty.

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 9>Nine point one percent. Every other till seat was a

0:35:59.080 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 9>yes vote all.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the play. It was a bloodshet.

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<v Speaker 9>The work was put in. The work was put in,

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.759
<v Speaker 9>and the people of Mackella are good, sensible people and

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 9>they know when someone is looking after their interests. So

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 9>I think James Bounder is a very good candidate. He's

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:19.120
<v Speaker 9>hungry to work, he wants to do the job, and

0:36:19.160 --> 0:36:23.279
<v Speaker 9>he cares about the people. So I think it's very

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 9>very good that Peter was there today. Peter Duffin was

0:36:26.320 --> 0:36:29.799
<v Speaker 9>there today. But I'll tell you an interesting historical fact.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your wave. Now you're going on the history.

0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:35.200
<v Speaker 9>Well, Keller used to be part of a Wringer. Yes,

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 9>it's a forty nine ers seat. The person who won

0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 9>the seat of Waringer in nineteen thirty six was Percy Spender,

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:47.400
<v Speaker 9>good old Percy and Percy Spender, of course is a

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:48.880
<v Speaker 9>legal Spender's grandfather.

0:36:49.000 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 9>And he wanted it as an independent because he got

0:36:54.000 --> 0:36:58.640
<v Speaker 9>kdopped off for preselection and he then joined the UAP

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.760
<v Speaker 9>under Mensies. Right, So there's a nice connection.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:03.960
<v Speaker 1>It is a lovely connection, all right. I do like

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:04.800
<v Speaker 1>the history weaves.

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't mind him at all. Don't mind him at all, Stephen.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to let you go to go on

0:37:09.400 --> 0:37:11.440
<v Speaker 2>one just quickly yet, right? Which is that I want

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:15.279
<v Speaker 2>to ask you about. Obviously, part of the theory right

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 2>about how the Teal seats fall is that if the

0:37:17.600 --> 0:37:22.040
<v Speaker 2>Labor vote falls, the capacity of Labour's preferences to get

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 2>these people elected falls with it. Is that something that

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you will be looking for as the detail of whether

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 2>this is going to happen or not.

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 7>Look, one of the things if you look at the

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 7>history of independence in a range of different seats labor

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 7>and liberal, is that after they win for the first time,

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:48.960
<v Speaker 7>the primary vote of the if you call it the

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:51.640
<v Speaker 7>third party, it's Labor or Liberal. But the party that

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 7>wasn't the incumbent before collapses and gets him behind and

0:37:56.680 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 7>locks him behind the.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Independence.

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 7>So I think that the Labor vote will go down,

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:10.000
<v Speaker 7>not because of any attempt deliberately. I think it will

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 7>actually just go down to make sure that Labor will

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 7>come third in these seats now, so it'll be really

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 7>a contest between the incumbent Teel and the Liberal Party,

0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:26.600
<v Speaker 7>and Labor will finish a distant third. Then you have

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 7>the Green preferences and a range of other preferences. The key,

0:38:30.080 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 7>of course for the Libs to try and get their

0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 7>primary vote to forty five forty six. If they're not

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 7>at forty five forty six, they're in trouble even in

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 7>what is a traditionally safe group of seats, because all

0:38:41.640 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 7>those national poles say Labor should.

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Already be dead ducks.

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.880
<v Speaker 7>What keeps Labor with the hope of forming government is

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 7>that Dutton will struggle to win back those twals.

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:55.840
<v Speaker 2>Correct, Correct, And that's our analysis. That's going to be

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.960
<v Speaker 2>our north star about how to interpret the election between

0:38:58.960 --> 0:39:00.520
<v Speaker 2>now and then. Fascinating to have a look at what

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>the bookies think right now, and again bookies they never

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 2>lost sight on Trump. Maybe it'll be the same here

0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:09.880
<v Speaker 2>in Australia. So we talk often about the economy. We

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 2>know today that we are in this per capital recession

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.760
<v Speaker 2>seven quarters in a row. The numbers that they are terrible,

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:18.759
<v Speaker 2>and it doesn't matter which section of the media you

0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:21.400
<v Speaker 2>go searching for your analysis, it all concludes the same,

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 2>which is.

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>We are in a world of trouble. But then we have,

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.439
<v Speaker 1>of course, what the Reserve Bank does now.

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Steven, I've got a feeling you're going to think they're

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>in the wrong place right now. But Bromen, do you

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 2>think that they will do anything different than they have

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>to this point? Because if we've been in a per

0:39:35.480 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>capita recession for seven of these quarters in a row,

0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 2>you need two to qualify.

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>So we've done it three times over. We're on our

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 1>way to our fourth.

0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:46.879
<v Speaker 2>At what point does the Reserve Bank say, well, maybe

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the interest rates are of part of the problem here.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 9>No, I don't think they will because their job is

0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:56.800
<v Speaker 9>to keep inflation down and everything the government is doing

0:39:57.000 --> 0:40:00.040
<v Speaker 9>is pushing it up. So you've got to understand and

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 9>that the snake charmer is doing his darndicity keeps telling

0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.919
<v Speaker 9>us to reinvent capitalism. The only trouble is he's going

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 9>down the socialist path. So his reinvention of capitalism has

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.000
<v Speaker 9>become a socialist, which of course is right in line

0:40:15.000 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 9>with elbow. But if you want to see the country

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 9>restored to prosperity, you've got to have a change of government.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 9>It's that simple, Stephen.

0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 3>If you.

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:27.839
<v Speaker 9>Look at what he's done, Look, I made a little list,

0:40:27.920 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 9>well for it. Come on, there's no productivity growth at all,

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 9>wrecking the economy the liberals and forming inflation, force up

0:40:39.800 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 9>wages to.

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>Relation country in reception all the masses.

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 9>By controlling how much electricity they can have.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:47.879
<v Speaker 1>Contain and tempt to drive.

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 9>Yes, absolutely, and this goes on.

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:55.320
<v Speaker 2>I just want to give Stephen a chance to respond,

0:40:55.320 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 2>because we're within the sixty second window before we've got

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 2>to go off to Megan Kelly. Is this if there

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.560
<v Speaker 2>don't think they're going to? I mean, at some point

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.799
<v Speaker 2>they have to change their behavior, But I don't think

0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 2>they're going to.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:08.959
<v Speaker 1>What do you think?

0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 7>No, I think the Reserve Bank and AW so locked

0:41:13.040 --> 0:41:17.279
<v Speaker 7>into their failed economic model that they will be incapable

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:21.160
<v Speaker 7>admitting over the next four months that they've got it wrong.

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.439
<v Speaker 7>I've been arguing not just because of the election six

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.120
<v Speaker 7>months you've known, Paul, I've been arguing this over eighteen months.

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 7>They've got their modeling wrong. And because they've got that wrong,

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 7>they are not going to change now. So I think

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 7>the governments have come to the conclusion that there will

0:41:36.760 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 7>be no interest rate cuts because they've got it wrong.

0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.840
<v Speaker 7>But just on the most fundamental point here, the government

0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.840
<v Speaker 7>is part of the economy where labour should be getting

0:41:45.880 --> 0:41:50.880
<v Speaker 7>credit today is they have stopped the economy going into recession. Stephen,

0:41:53.239 --> 0:41:58.040
<v Speaker 7>the economy in recession, there is no private growth, there

0:41:58.120 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 7>is no consumption.

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Probably there is no consumption. Damn it. Why did I

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.560
<v Speaker 1>lead with this topic. I should have lead with it.

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 1>You have no clue there.

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 7>You've got no clue on this. See plus in the

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 7>first year text you yes, I look it up at

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:17.520
<v Speaker 7>an economics text.

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:22.799
<v Speaker 1>First this was the time.

0:42:22.840 --> 0:42:27.080
<v Speaker 7>Now I'm saying this was the Reserve Bank are crushing

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:28.400
<v Speaker 7>the economy.

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:32.479
<v Speaker 1>The Reserve Bank, I destroyed it. Consumption reck you guys

0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>do it correct? And the sas now all all right, okay, okay,

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I call time on this. You have way more time

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:40.719
<v Speaker 1>next week. All right, quick break back the more. Megan

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Kelly joining us from the States is a funny one.

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to.

0:42:43.360 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>See our favorite person in the world at favorite time

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 2>of the week, Megan Kelly loving to see you.

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Jeez, didn't a few people notice how last conversation? Thank you,

0:42:56.680 --> 0:42:57.839
<v Speaker 1>thank you, thank you?

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 5>Little did they know we do that every week? They've

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 5>been missing all the fun.

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>Correct one hundred percent? All right, Well, I don't know.

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.399
<v Speaker 2>I am I supposed to say happy Holidays right now?

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Or is it happy Thanksgiving or happy you know? In

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 2>between relo bashes? What's the right way to talk, you know,

0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 2>to a friend giving?

0:43:15.040 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 5>We switch over to Merry Christmas. We say Merry Christmas.

0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 5>Remember that was the report. We say Merry Christmas, and

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 5>we say.

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.440
<v Speaker 1>It that correct.

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Medals for anyone who was part of the war on

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Christmas for those so many years.

0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:33.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about Hunter Biden. So the pardon

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:35.040
<v Speaker 1>is not a surprise.

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Your reaction on the show is completely correct, which was okay.

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 2>The only people who didn't see this coming are the

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:42.600
<v Speaker 2>same people who had the blinders on, who thought that

0:43:42.719 --> 0:43:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Kamala was winning. But the devil in the detail is

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.759
<v Speaker 2>what I wanted to talk to you about. So he's

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 2>completely off the book from everything from the start of

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen till a couple of days ago. That means barisma,

0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>That means all of the Russian disinformation time, and it

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 2>also means any crimes while dad was president.

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's all been wiped away. There is no way

0:44:09.040 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 5>of getting after him whatsoever, at least not with a

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:14.600
<v Speaker 5>federal government, and there would be no state government that

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:16.359
<v Speaker 5>would be going after him for or would have even

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 5>jurisdiction over these alleged crimes. But yeah, he's clearly decided

0:44:20.680 --> 0:44:23.880
<v Speaker 5>that we can't touch anything he did. I believe it

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden's behest I mean, I believe Joe Biden was

0:44:26.280 --> 0:44:28.359
<v Speaker 5>in on the whole scheme and was not just some

0:44:28.719 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, poor concerned dad wondering what his drug addult

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.840
<v Speaker 5>son was up to. I think he was well aware

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 5>of what his son was up to. Like, we're going

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:39.160
<v Speaker 5>to pretend that as a sitting vice president he didn't

0:44:39.160 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 5>have the power to say, Hunter, you may not sit

0:44:42.040 --> 0:44:44.400
<v Speaker 5>on the board of a Ukrainian energy company while your

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 5>dad is vice president is the point man for the

0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 5>administration on Ukraine energy. Like you may not. It's a no,

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 5>of course he could have. He did it because I

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 5>believe that email was right that they found on the

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 5>Hunter Biden laptop ten percent for the big guy. And

0:44:59.000 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 5>Joe Biden does have have a nice beach house in

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 5>Delaware and you know, a nice Porsche, and they don't

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:06.839
<v Speaker 5>pay the lawmakers over here very well. So where did

0:45:06.840 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 5>his money come from? And I guarantee before we get

0:45:09.719 --> 0:45:12.480
<v Speaker 5>to him passing the baton to Trump, we're going to

0:45:12.520 --> 0:45:16.479
<v Speaker 5>see more Biden family pardens, including of his brother Jim

0:45:16.520 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 5>Biden was also part of this racket, and he might

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:22.040
<v Speaker 5>even try to do the self pardon because I do

0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 5>think there's more to be found around this story. And

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 5>unless they're completely insulated, the odds are team Trump will try.

0:45:29.760 --> 0:45:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Has anyone explained why, I mean traditionally when stuff like

0:45:33.200 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 2>this happens, it happens day of transfer because it'll be

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>buried underneath all of the images of a new president

0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 2>taking the ice. Is there any suggestion as to why

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:42.920
<v Speaker 2>this had to happen?

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 1>Now?

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.359
<v Speaker 5>The speculation is that he didn't want him to get

0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:52.040
<v Speaker 5>sentenced that once the sentencing, you know, and he was

0:45:52.040 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 5>looking at three years on each charge once the sentencing

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:58.200
<v Speaker 5>was handed down, it would have been harder to make

0:45:58.239 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 5>this look like a nothing.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 8>You know.

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 5>Now it's like and it's like he was found guilty,

0:46:02.239 --> 0:46:04.200
<v Speaker 5>but come on, this is all political. Let's move on

0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.640
<v Speaker 5>as opposed to like he just dodged a six or

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 5>ten year sentence while everybody else who commits these crimes

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:14.640
<v Speaker 5>has to serve that time. So it could be that

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:16.880
<v Speaker 5>could be that they didn't want the official convicted felon

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 5>label to attach, which it does when you get sentenced.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 5>So I don't know, but those make sense to me

0:46:22.880 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 5>that he like to avoid the sentencing. He had to

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 5>do an asap.

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:29.879
<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about our dear friend Kamala. We didn't

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 2>get a chance to talk about it because of the

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Thanksgiving break. That video where she turned up like frankly

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:38.719
<v Speaker 2>as we would say in Australia or a peacet auntie.

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 2>She was just you could almost hear the bottle rattling

0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 2>somewhere because that was not her finest performance, and of

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 2>course she could have done a do over. There were

0:46:48.040 --> 0:46:50.800
<v Speaker 2>no questions why was that so bad?

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 5>I do think she looked and sounded drunk. I mean

0:46:55.640 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 5>she truly was, like don't she tell anybody. They can't

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:05.920
<v Speaker 5>leave you their power. Don't take away your power. It's

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:11.919
<v Speaker 5>your power in your dreams and your aspirations. Don't take

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 5>them away. I believe in you. I'm middle class. It

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 5>was so crazy. I don't know why they didn't do

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:23.719
<v Speaker 5>another take, or four or wait four hours until she'd

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 5>had some coffee, or maybe she's just exhausted, and this

0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:29.319
<v Speaker 5>is how she sounds when she's absolutely exhausted. But then

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.040
<v Speaker 5>if you got a candidate like this is just another

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:35.279
<v Speaker 5>example of how her whole team is so clueless. Why

0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 5>if you have a candidate who is exhausted, let's go

0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:39.320
<v Speaker 5>with that. Would you put her in a brown suit?

0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:44.400
<v Speaker 5>Like what? What telegraphs vibrancy less than brown? Can? I

0:47:44.680 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 5>like what? And then the hair was like very like

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 5>drabbing forward. It was like the sort of what Sally

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:53.560
<v Speaker 5>Field referred to as like a football helmet in Seal

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.799
<v Speaker 5>Magnolia's And like her face was very sad. It was

0:47:56.840 --> 0:48:02.560
<v Speaker 5>like very downward turning and she could yeah, and the

0:48:02.680 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 5>ugly tan curtains behind her that really did make it

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:07.920
<v Speaker 5>look like something out of the USSR was like have

0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 5>they captured her? Is she? Where is she? Is it

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<v Speaker 5>Hawaii or is it you know, Moscow? I can't quite tell.

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<v Speaker 5>And you would put her on something vibrant, you would

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<v Speaker 5>like make her seem a little warm. And let me

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<v Speaker 5>tell you, I'm just not to be too mean, but

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<v Speaker 5>I'm given those other things I just said. You would

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<v Speaker 5>zoom out. Okay, I'm just gonna say it, zoom out, ladies.

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<v Speaker 5>We've all been there. There are the days we all

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<v Speaker 5>need to be zoomed out on, just like way back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>we can take the extreme clothes up, but they're getting

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<v Speaker 5>fewer and farther between as we get older. Let me

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<v Speaker 5>tell you, for Kamala Harris, we were at the zoom

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<v Speaker 5>out portion of this race. So I honestly think this

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<v Speaker 5>team is either totally clus or mean.

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<v Speaker 2>What about So today the campaign is still asking for donations.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know that's because they broke They didn't just

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<v Speaker 2>raise a beany and it was one and a half billion.

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<v Speaker 2>We know they went into date. But who is still

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<v Speaker 2>giving money to a case that's been dead for a month.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, but they deserve it. It's like it's

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<v Speaker 5>the way we felt when we talked about on your

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<v Speaker 5>show that Black Lives Matter organizations turning out to be

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<v Speaker 5>totally corrupt and fraudulent, and they'd been taking all this

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<v Speaker 5>money and put it in their pockets, like we felt

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<v Speaker 5>any sympathy at all for the donors, like okay, good,

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<v Speaker 5>keep defrauding like I love it. Give, Give to help,

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<v Speaker 5>Kamala Harris. You should. That should be where you spend

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<v Speaker 5>your political donations this year, all of you who are

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<v Speaker 5>inclined to do it, Like I can't believe the grift