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Speaker 1: Hi, my boris and this is Straight Talks Joseph Acuso.

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Speaker 1: So Ali, welcome to Straight Talk, mate. Obviously they head

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Speaker 1: one hundred you because someone who may be able to

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Speaker 1: save the side. Do you feel pressure?

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Speaker 2: The reason I wanted to go was always I wanted

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Speaker 2: to play on a Lions tour. I still remember to

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Speaker 2: this day the kid I watched it on TV and

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I want to do

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Speaker 2: one day.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it'll encourage other younger blokes to continue

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Speaker 1: on the rugby union path?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I hope when we do play this

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Speaker 2: spring tour and a Lions tour and a home Woord Cup,

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Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of kids are going to

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Speaker 2: be inspired to play in a green and gold jersey

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Speaker 2: or warortized jersey. I feel like that's probably the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing for you know, Australian rugby.

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Speaker 1: You did get selected for Origin. In one game of Origin,

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Speaker 1: we didn't last long. Can we just quickly talk about

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Speaker 1: that what actually happened? Joseph Acuso, So a LEI get

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Speaker 1: that right? Mate? Didn't I practice morning? I want to

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Speaker 1: get right and I want to get right otherwise nickname

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Speaker 1: at the Russes at least sou welcome to straight tow mate.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's cool, really cool. So we got you on this show,

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Speaker 1: your med training. Now you're in the Wallabies. Not in

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Speaker 1: the Wallabies that they haven't announced any at least and.

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Speaker 2: Actually announced it the hour ago. So oh really yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah that's so cool. I know. Yeah. I was actually

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Speaker 2: yeah stoked. Yeah, family were calling and everyone was happy,

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Speaker 2: so mad, everyone was over the moon.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, honestly, like seasons just finished and yeah,

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Speaker 2: just straight into we had a camp on Monday Tuesday

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Speaker 2: last week and then yeah, just straight into it.

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Speaker 1: I knew you in the camp. I didn't realize it

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Speaker 1: was so it's just been announced. Man, that's mad. Yeah

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Speaker 1: are you feeling yeah?

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Speaker 2: Good? Like it's actually yeah crazy, Like I was saying

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Speaker 2: before light, it's the whole year. I was just looking

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Speaker 2: at like like this time now, I've been reflecting a

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Speaker 2: lot over like the last four years and especially this

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Speaker 2: year as well, and how everything just honestly, it has

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Speaker 2: gone so fast. It's gone way too fast. I just

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Speaker 2: kind of you know, yeah, even now just been in

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Speaker 2: the Lollaby squad, I'm just like, you know, just stoked.

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Speaker 1: And just what position did they call you out?

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Speaker 2: There's no no position. I haven't had a proper position

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Speaker 2: where I've been training or.

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Speaker 1: Anything announced twenty or what are the announced?

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Speaker 2: I think how many is it? I noticed two squads

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Speaker 2: as of Wallabys A like Wallabies A and then the

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Speaker 2: Wallabys are going on a spring tour, so yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure how many in the squad.

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Speaker 1: Do you have any idea where you might be playing that?

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Speaker 2: I think I spoke spaited a coach like thirteen fifteen

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Speaker 2: that's where like I'll be training and then they just

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Speaker 2: see where where I would go from.

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Speaker 1: There for a meneral audience. What is thirty and fifth?

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Speaker 2: Thirteen's outside center and the fifteens a full back? So

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Speaker 2: you ever a preference? Not? Not really, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I grew up playing yeah, thirteen fifteen wing. I've always

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Speaker 2: played like a lot of positions growing up in union. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a bit different league we played like growing up in

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Speaker 2: the league, I honestly just played fullback five eight, I

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Speaker 2: was it. I never ever played in the center or wing.

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Speaker 2: I was always four bout five eight like the swim psition.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was good.

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Speaker 1: So I like to go back a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of people do know you, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of people don't know you. A lot of who know you,

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Speaker 1: they know of you now. But let's go back to

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Speaker 1: young Joseph, going back years ago. Let's you're running only

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Speaker 1: twenty one. I think you're in twenty one.

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Speaker 2: Don't ye.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to when you're when you're at Penrith,

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Speaker 1: before you went off to King So what's the deal.

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Speaker 1: Like your dad samone.

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Speaker 2: From somemhow or born in yeah, born there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so your dad and he's married to your

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Speaker 1: mum obviously, but your mum's background.

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Speaker 2: As what Cambodian Australian.

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Speaker 1: Cambodian Australian. Okay, so that's an unusual mix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Yeah, some old man. He come over

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Speaker 2: from someone when he was maybe twelve or thirteen, like

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Speaker 2: we'll get quite young. And yeah, mum was, yeah, brought

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Speaker 2: up in Australia, grew up here. Her grandpa come over

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Speaker 2: War happened over there and then he couldn't go back,

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Speaker 2: my parents end up meeting at a train station now Kingswood, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think Kingswoold train stations were at a club out

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Speaker 2: there actually, yeah, Kingswood train station. I think they met

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Speaker 2: so yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then junior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Pendell Jr. Growing up played under fours or

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Speaker 2: was that? Started at s Mary's and then under fire

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Speaker 2: was that brothers, And then from there just played at

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Speaker 2: Glenmore Park. Yeah, gone Park, Brumbies.

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Speaker 1: Did you play footing in some More?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did, he did. He played. He actually played

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Speaker 2: a little bit over here too, but he had my

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Speaker 2: sister quite young, at maybe seven to eighteen. He had

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Speaker 2: my sister, and then yeah, from there he just kind

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Speaker 2: of just stopped playing foot and then after the kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: At the kids and is your mum sporty?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she played a bit of volleyball on that little

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Speaker 2: bit growing up. But she always says that My old

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Speaker 2: man always says that I'll get more athletic athletic ability

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Speaker 2: from him, But it's quietly in the background saying that

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Speaker 2: it's from me.

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Speaker 1: So who do you look more like? Though? Like I mean, because.

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Speaker 2: Actually I look like my mom a lot. Yeah, but

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Speaker 2: my old man he's like short and like stocky, so

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Speaker 2: I don't look like, yeah my dad at all hype

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Speaker 2: from it's weird. My uncle's all tall, So my dad's

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Speaker 2: like he's really short, and you look at my uncles,

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Speaker 2: they're all like tall, all like six three six four,

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Speaker 2: and then my old man's like way on six foot

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Speaker 2: but solid. Yeah, he's like yeah, he's built.

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Speaker 1: Totally built. So that's a pretty unusual combination, by the way,

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Speaker 1: sort of two totally different backgrounds. Yeah, yeah, what do

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Speaker 1: you what do you think that culturally you get from that?

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Speaker 1: Let's put sport aside, foot your what I just just

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Speaker 2: I think the from like Pacific Islands. I get a

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Speaker 2: where I'm from sometimes like what can you say, very

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Speaker 2: like outgoing. I can be outgoing, but from my mom's side,

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Speaker 2: Mum's very like intrinsic, says my grandpa is very intrinsic,

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Speaker 2: So I feel like I've got a good bars between both, yeah,

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Speaker 2: ye and yang. But yeah, I feel like I get

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Speaker 2: a bit of both from Yeah, like that outgoing and

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Speaker 2: then you know when on my home, like when I'm

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Speaker 2: comfortable around people, I feel like I'm very out there

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Speaker 2: and you know, say we go out like I'm very

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Speaker 3: But yeah, Joey runs that, as Joey runs that, so

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Speaker 3: we do a little bit of that.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like, yeah, culturally, I still want to

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Speaker 2: learn a little bit more about my converting side. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I haven't really tapped into that a lot.

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Speaker 2: My old man used to try to teach me a

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Speaker 2: I was a very I just didn't listen. I didn't listen.

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Speaker 1: I wish it's interesting, Joe, because like I come from

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Speaker 1: a mixed background mind there too, and one always dominates,

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Speaker 1: but one ends up usually when the most people are

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Speaker 1: like my dad's side's got more family, bigger family. It

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Speaker 1: just sort of dilutes my mother's side. And but as

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Speaker 1: I got when I've been start again, I just have

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Speaker 1: become much more interested in the Irish part of it.

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Speaker 1: But do you think that is it because your dad's

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Speaker 1: sides a much bigger family, because and by the way

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Speaker 1: some owns a Pacific Islands generally. I mean, I wasn't

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Speaker 1: aware of this, and part of me for my ignorance,

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Speaker 1: but I always knew that Pacific Islanders generally are very

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Speaker 1: family orienteded. But when we had recently out of the roosters,

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Speaker 1: out of the stadium, we got all the guys who

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Speaker 1: blown away by the importance of family amongst all of

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Speaker 1: you guys in our side, just in our team, particularly

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Speaker 1: the ones and particularly the ones who are leaving, and

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Speaker 1: what you've sort of looked like to me, you guys,

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Speaker 1: you've dragged along the Aussie guys as well, like to

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Speaker 1: like they've seen you guys with your family elements, and

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Speaker 1: actually you brought the best down in them. And I

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Speaker 1: don't want to the rats are the same. I don't

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Speaker 1: want to overplay it, but do you see that, like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit you could, you could say, especially

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Speaker 2: with my family, Like every game I've played, they've been

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Speaker 2: at every single game, Like even my aunties, my uncle's

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Speaker 2: my like extended family, like it've come to every single game.

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Speaker 2: Like even we're playing Brizzy, they'll drive all the way

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Speaker 2: to Brizzy to come watch. Even in Melbourne they all

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Speaker 2: drive down.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's just like I've always you always felt

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Speaker 2: out support kind of thing as you as you're playing.

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Speaker 2: It's very I don't really say much to my family,

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Speaker 2: say obviously I'll say thanks for coming and stuff like that,

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Speaker 2: but it's a big thing when you're playing knowing that

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Speaker 2: your family's in the crowd someway. Sometimes you don't see

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Speaker 2: them when you running out, but it's very it's weird,

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Speaker 2: it's like you can't really put words to a kind

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Speaker 2: of thing, but it's honestly it's very comforting. Yeah, comforting

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Speaker 2: like that you know if if my mum and dad

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Speaker 2: are in the crowd and my cousins and all that,

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Speaker 2: you know, you know forty thousand people are going to

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Speaker 2: be in the stands, but you know about the people

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Speaker 2: that you're playing for and you know why you're doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's very yeah, comforting because.

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Speaker 1: It's funny and again sort of mostly this year, I've

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Speaker 1: noticed it more than I ever noticed before. But and

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Speaker 1: it's not just us, it's you know, they do it

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Speaker 1: at Penrith, et cetera. But I've noticed and I don't

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Speaker 1: know what is it? Lay? What's that the thing they

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Speaker 1: put around your necks at the end of the game.

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Speaker 2: I should know what it's called.

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's sort of like a wreath, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a wreath. It's a lay or something like that.

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Speaker 1: And it's got like it's got lollies or something. What's

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Speaker 1: going on there?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: so a lot a lot like lollies. It's just like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of colors. Sometimes they put like tongus for

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Speaker 2: I was I wasn't at school. I wasn't. I was

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Speaker 2: And then anyway, I applied at different schools, like I

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Speaker 1: And ill, yeah, no, it's well. And of course, you know,

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Speaker 2: You, Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, I played first basketball

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Speaker 2: It was we're looking back on now. I'm just like

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Speaker 2: you know, just having fun. Just like obviously hard work too.

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Speaker 2: And then yeah, I played you know, you seven played

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Speaker 2: that's true, true, Yeah, yeah, I was playing your first

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Speaker 1: So and how much do you think playing rugby league

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Speaker 2: I feel like obviously you got the board, like the

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Speaker 2: play rugby league. But I feel like the different sports

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Speaker 2: of like basketball, AFL, growing up even league helped even

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Speaker 1: So you borrow from skills you learn from different sports

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Speaker 2: That yeah, yeah, i'd always yeah, I feel like you

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Speaker 2: subconsciously just pick up on different schools and see you

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Speaker 2: different ways of doing things on a footy field. Or

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Speaker 2: basketball court and just apply it to whatever sport I

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Speaker 2: Played at a young age, play first fifteen at a

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Speaker 1: what are one hundred and ninety something?

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00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably like I reckon six or six five? Yeah,

434
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: around your way one three, one o four, So.

435
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,880
Speaker 1: That's like a perfect weight for an outside back and particular.

436
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,359
Speaker 1: And then rugby in rugby league, were you sort of

437
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: always around those sorts of ninety late high nineties when

438
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 1: you're at school.

439
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, like when I was in nine, I was around

440
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,040
Speaker 2: there like ninety, like around there like just under ninety

441
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,040
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Like fifteen yeah, yeah, I was very torn,

442
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,280
Speaker 2: like skinny kind of thing. Yeah, And I'm just like

443
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 2: slowly just built muscle out.

444
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,120
Speaker 1: Because one of the things, I mean, I watch Plavery

445
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 1: week for the last couple of years, but like one

446
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: of the things I noticed is that you just run

447
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,439
Speaker 1: a people, you don't seem to give a shit, and

448
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: you run flat out. There's no in between. For Joseph

449
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,760
Speaker 1: Lecky's sort of you know, some guys will change their

450
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,120
Speaker 1: speed at a certain point, you just when you get

451
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,840
Speaker 1: the ball. You just got the ball and you're going

452
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,479
Speaker 1: straight for it, and whoever on the other side has

453
00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: to tackle you. Were you always like that as a

454
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 1: player as a young bloke.

455
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,879
Speaker 2: You know, it was actually funny. As a kid growing up,

456
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 2: I was always playing my full back five eight, so

457
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: I was always used to like using my hands, especially

458
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 2: well when I was younger too, like yeah, I was

459
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:17,200
Speaker 2: always just using my hands. Step in more creative, more creative.

460
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 2: Growing up. I feel like, you know, coming into the

461
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 2: rooster system, it's all about you know, like power game,

462
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 2: you know, power against the first thing and then play

463
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: off that kind of thing, and then I'll come in

464
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 2: as a winger. I was seventeen eighteen, and at the start,

465
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: I was like I remember, like you know, Jazz is

466
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,200
Speaker 2: like come on, runner, Yeah, yeah, you got to get

467
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 2: the you know, play the ball like and I'm like,

468
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 2: I'll do anything for the team. That's why I always

469
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 2: for the mentality. I've always had anything for the team.

470
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: I never used to run the ball, like like growing up,

471
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: I'm not always fast direct, yeah, fast direct. I'd always

472
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: be like, you know, step blah blah blah, do like

473
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: all this fancy stuff and then I don't know, I

474
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,439
Speaker 2: think when I was like, yeah, seven, my first year

475
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 2: and second year NRL, I was just like, I'm just

476
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 2: going to pin my ears back and just go like

477
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: every time I get the ball board, just get like

478
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 2: especially in yardage, I was always like, I don't care

479
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: who it is, It's either going to go up the

480
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,440
Speaker 2: him or the gap or you know, and just try

481
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 2: to get that quick playable for the team. And then yeah,

482
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 2: I just kind of built that reputation coming in and

483
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,119
Speaker 2: then yeah, kind of just stuck.

484
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: So everybody wanted you. I don't think you were eighteen

485
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: or seventeen. I think everybody everyone was having a crack

486
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 1: for him, because I remember hearing about it, you know,

487
00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: in various meetings in our club. And of course Russ

488
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: was successful in the end. What does that do to

489
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: a kid when you're seventeen years of age and you

490
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: know people throwing money around, you know, you're in demand.

491
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 1: How do you keep yourself in check? Like, you know,

492
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: from a ego point of view, And I will say

493
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: straight up, you never displayed any ego. We never saw it.

494
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: Is that your parents or is that your upbringing? What's

495
00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: the deal?

496
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think parents. I think parents was the big one,

497
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 2: or even the school I was at. It was actually

498
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: the school player still in school. Yeah, I was still

499
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 2: a school I was because I was boarding at school.

500
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: I was living there, so I was always around my

501
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: my good mates, my best mates. I'd always like sometimes

502
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: I'll go back on the weekend. I always see my family.

503
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 2: It was weird. It was a weird dynamic because I

504
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: was always in the media, like media but at school

505
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 2: at the same time. So I was just like I

506
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: always knew. There was a lot of talk around myself.

507
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 2: But to be honest, when I look back on it,

508
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't really know how I deal with it. It

509
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 2: was just like next job, I kind of thing like that.

510
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: It was just like I knew what path I wanted

511
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 2: to go on, and I was right with that because

512
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: I always knew, Like I was like, I want to

513
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 2: play in an NROL when I'm seventeen, Like I've always

514
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 2: had this thing in my mind. It's like, no, I

515
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: want to do this kind of thing. And from there

516
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 2: it's just always just been I want to do that,

517
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 2: then my next thing.

518
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: Do you read the papers? Though?

519
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 2: When I was when I was first coming in like

520
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: maybe I think I was in the papers when I

521
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: was like maybe third in fourteen. I was saying I

522
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 2: was the next for our coming through.

523
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 3: I remember that and I was like, at the start

524
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: is exciting, and I was like, oh cool, this is like,

525
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: this is pretty cool being in the paper and stuff like.

526
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: That, especially being sort of compared to him.

527
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, straight away because I loved him growing up.

528
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 2: I was like, this is one of my orders. I

529
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 2: was like, oh, this is cool. Like I've been in

530
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 2: the paper for the first time, and then you know,

531
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 2: now it's like it's been a couple of times now

532
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 2: and you're just like, now that the pressure starting to

533
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: come into your head a kind of thing like that,

534
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: and you're like you're thinking about it a little bit,

535
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: and then you're just like I think at the time

536
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: was just how would I say I was dealing with it?

537
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 2: I was honestly just you know, staying with family. They

538
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 2: were always you know, keeping me grounded.

539
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 1: Your dad.

540
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: My parents don't really say a lot. They're very comforting,

541
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: like the way like just their presence there is very

542
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 2: like comforting. But I've never had my parents. They're very

543
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 2: they don't talk a lot, and they're very How could

544
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: you say it very loving people. I think I think

545
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 2: just the love from them to myself always, I just

546
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: knew that that's enough, that's enough, that's all I needed.

547
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: That kept me comfort, just you know, just keep on

548
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 2: playing footy, just loving the game. Things like that. I

549
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: think that really helped me a lot.

550
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: We're aby to get you exempted to play underrated. Well

551
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 1: it's called a utrage, but earlier than most. When your

552
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: first game to anyone, who's your first game against Broncos

553
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: with the Broncos say well in the first grade, kid,

554
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: and give you a good clip.

555
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't not really honestly having like a blur

556
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: like my first NERL game, because I was I was

557
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 2: still a SCAR member, still a school Like. It was

558
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: funny because I was like any day, but we're training

559
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: boys at the off day. But I was like sitting

560
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 2: in class at school. It was actually funny. I used

561
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 2: to go into class and I used to cut me

562
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: in because I was like, I was never at school, Like,

563
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 2: I was never at school. So especially my best mates

564
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: a little bit of one who areing like, oh this

565
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: guy's back at school kind of thing like that, but

566
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: I was never there. But going back to the game, yeah, honestly,

567
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: just happened like a like a blur. I played five

568
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: games that season. Yeah, I don't have my foot injury.

569
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: So because we were worried you were going to get hurt.

570
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: Because I remember Sonny Bill when he first started playing.

571
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he used to do a lot of shoulder

572
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: charges on blokes, and I think you might have even

573
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: done a couple of should charges over you years. But

574
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: but I remember he got injured a lot because he

575
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 1: had He wasn't a man at that stage. You didn't

576
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: have a man body. You're still developing, not boy's body,

577
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: a teenagers body, I guess, because you were still a

578
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: teenager and we were concerned. I was always thinking of,

579
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: so have this kid doesn't get injured, badly injured. You

580
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: got your you did your foot, Yeah, my Liz treaking

581
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 1: my my left or some weird thing. What is that

582
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: called from.

583
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: Somebody from a whrse? I don't know something like that.

584
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: Someone tried to explain to me some small thing though. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

585
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 2: it's like a separation in a in your foot. You

586
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: go fire, you got bones in your foot and a

587
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,199
Speaker 2: little bit of separation can like do you miss a

588
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 2: kind of thing like that? And I was out there

589
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: for like five or six months.

590
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, because I thought it was like, god,

591
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, I hope he hasn't sort of sort of

592
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: done like a permanent injury. Keep repeating itself. But when

593
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: you played first played in those first five games, did

594
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: anybody give you a tickle up like our bikes they

595
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: come on, get up.

596
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: No. I was like, I remember one guy went against

597
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: It was against Pander. I think it was my third

598
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: or second or third game. I think it was Fisher,

599
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: I think because I was playing center at the time,

600
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, kickoff carries and the you know,

601
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: they run and yeah, and I was like I was like, oh,

602
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: here we go. And he's like looking over and I'm like,

603
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: oh god, here we going, and like, you know, just

604
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: trying to tackle them. But I'm got like, you know,

605
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: I've got hit and he's coming up at the top

606
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: said something and he didn't. He's in the game like

607
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: saying something. But I was just like I was the

608
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 2: first one. I was like, Okay, I'm here, like you

609
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like an RL standard kind of

610
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: thing like that. Yeah. Yeah, but that was good, probably good. Yeah,

611
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 2: it was a good thing I needed it like kind

612
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: of things. So because I.

613
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 1: Only remember you, you nailed a few blakes. I can't

614
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: remember who specifically now, but you did nail a few blokes,

615
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: particularly when you're playing out. It might have been out

616
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,479
Speaker 1: on the wing. Come he came in, and you did

617
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: hit a few like pretty hard in your early stages.

618
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: In your early stage like like full front, just full speed,

619
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: totally fearless. It was definitely a teenager like inexperienced REGU

620
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: League player, real player, but definitely a teenager fearless. Do

621
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: you remember doing that? Like did you pick out Blake?

622
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: It was someone I just want to really put him.

623
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: Down, like like now because I know like this like

624
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 2: system and stuff like that. I know when so I

625
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 2: picked my times come out come of like when not

626
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: to and what to do? You know, Like when you

627
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: first come in, it was just like all right, who

628
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 2: can I smash? It was just like, yeah, who can

629
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: I run out and kill? And who can I you know,

630
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: like a smash kind of thing. And I was just

631
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 2: like it was like that my first couple, you know,

632
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 2: the first couple of games in l.

633
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: Does somebody grab hold of you in the club, in

634
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: the team, I should say, in your team and and

635
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: sort of not becoming your mental but like I don't

636
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: know sort of your guide. Is there any one particular person.

637
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: I'd always say it's a always four people have looked

638
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: up to the club, and it's always been Jared Ria

639
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: har Grays, Luke Keary, Daniel Tubo, and Joey Minho. And

640
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: I feel like I've always gravitated towards them for I've

641
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: always I'm I'm real good mates with Daniel, I'm good

642
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: mates with all of them.

643
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

644
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I've always just taken Joey and

645
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 2: Daniel helped me like big time coming in when I

646
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: was first like during school, you know, take me under

647
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 2: a wing and just show me in the ropes and

648
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: how like I knew I could always train and stuff

649
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 2: like that, but just the little things you've got to

650
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 2: know to play playing in no role. And I was

651
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: always just asking him questions and they're always you know, good,

652
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: good back to like back to me as well, just

653
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, just show me different things and different was

654
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: that Yeah, two talks a lot. He was my room

655
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: this year, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I was. I'm always

656
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: that young kid, always just annoying him. So's he's one

657
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: of the best men, like one of the best people

658
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: you've met in your life. He's a great man.

659
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 1: I can't believe that the ones you just named other

660
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: than Tubes are just and resigned, but the others are

661
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: going like and yourself. I mean it's and then obviously

662
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: still as well, although he's going to Canterbury, but Dews

663
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: are sort of going out of the game. Well two

664
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: of them go to England. I mean, jar is going

665
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: to go. Someone said to me in England in the

666
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: in the Super League competition, you can't hit above this

667
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: part of the chest lake rope union. And we'll talk

668
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: about that for you in a moment. But I don't know.

669
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: I said to Jared, man, are you going to go

670
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: tackling below that? I said, you'll probably play three games

671
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: for a year.

672
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I are going to have a lot of holidays there.

673
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: I can see that. Yeah.

674
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: I think it's like I don't think he's ever tackled

675
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: below the chest. I don't ever in his whole career.

676
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: So you you, you've had a great career. The ruses,

677
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean you and you've met some great people. You're

678
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: an extraordinarily important part of you know how Robbo built

679
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: a team and you know out out the way we play,

680
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: you played, you did get selected for Origin, had one

681
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: game of Origin. We didn't last long. Can we just

682
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: quickly talk about that?

683
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Was that?

684
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: I know you you don't have any malice in you.

685
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: I know you don't play with malice. Yeah, I mean

686
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: they're not everyone's like that, but you're one of those

687
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: people doesn't have any malice. So I can't imagine when

688
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: it happened. I can't imagine that you went out there

689
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: to take your head off. What actually happened? Did he

690
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: slip under you? Was you just too high? What was it? Judgment?

691
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I look back on it now, and even

692
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 2: just the whole lead up towards a game, I was

693
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: very excited, Yeah, pumped up. I feel like I learned

694
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: a lot just about playing them big games, about okay,

695
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: what's my process going into the game kind of thing.

696
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 2: I feel like I was very excited. You know, I

697
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: wanted to go in straight away get a carry, which

698
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: like I always want to start the game fast.

699
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: Is it because that makes you settle down a little

700
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: bit because you've had to carry or yeah understable?

701
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. Every time I go in the game, I'm

702
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: always trying to find a carry just to get into

703
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: the game.

704
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like, is that settle your nerves down something?

705
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit. I feel like you can go

706
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 2: missing in games as well, like if you're not going

707
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: to get in, Like I remember my first couple Arrow games,

708
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 2: like you know, I'm watching the game. I'm not even

709
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: playing a game because I'm watching it. Whereas now I

710
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 2: feel like, all right, give me a carry, give me

711
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 2: a tackle, get myself involved in the game, and then

712
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 2: I'm in the game kind of things like that. And

713
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 2: I was always a thing I wanted to do in

714
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: the first the first game.

715
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: Just manage to did he say that type of thing?

716
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: Does he come to Joseph, You've got to get in early,

717
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: get started?

718
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: Not really, I feel like I was just I've been

719
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: working a lot with a sports s like I feel like,

720
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: and I always each week would go into a game

721
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: and be like, all right, how are we going to

722
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 2: target this game or how are we going to like

723
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: what's the plan going into it? And it's always been

724
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: very simple for myself just to get to carry early

725
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: and get into the game kind of thing. And with

726
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: the Origin game, I feel like I did that, got

727
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: a quick carry and then my next thing was all right,

728
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: let's let's get involved by making a decision or a tackle.

729
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: And then I saw Walsh come down the short side

730
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: and I had Gussie and my three men and I'm like,

731
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: all right, you know, looking back on it, I shouldn't

732
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 2: have went. It was a Gussie was my inside Like

733
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: it was in yardage too, so I didn't I didn't

734
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: really need to go.

735
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: It should have been his tackle.

736
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, well he would have like did it would

737
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: have went out at the back and then Gussy obviously

738
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: whilst you got speed, but I trust Gussie to get there.

739
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 2: Like looking at it now, like I shouldn't have went,

740
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: But I'm always on a back my instinct and my.

741
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: So is that an example of your you using your

742
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: instinct over your judgment? And how often do you have

743
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: to do that in rugby league?

744
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: Oh, You've got to do a lot. I feel like

745
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: I feel like you need to have that, you know,

746
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: logical and then you've got like your instinct kind of thing.

747
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 2: And I feel like the more games you play in NRL,

748
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 2: the logical starts to come up a lot. I feel

749
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: like when you first come in it's a lot of

750
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: like instinct, Yeah, but you still got to keep that instinct.

751
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: I feel like that's where you get some of the

752
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: best players in the game. But I feel like if

753
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: you have a balance between both, that's where you.

754
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: Get trying to work out where you're optimistic.

755
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to find out like what

756
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: works for you kind of thing like that. So, yeah,

757
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: like going back to the tackle, I should have not gone,

758
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: but I did go back my instinct. You can't pull out.

759
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: I can't pull out, like I'm not going to pull out.

760
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: I should have maybe had like smaller feet going into

761
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 2: contact if I look back on it.

762
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: Small feet, so.

763
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: When you tackle, you tackle with your feet, and the

764
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 2: best tackle has always have like short feet going into contact.

765
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,879
Speaker 2: I was crying short steps, yah, short steps on that. Yeah,

766
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 2: but you know I was covering a big distance, so

767
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: I should have shorter feet And then.

768
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: Can I just does that mean if you're running towards

769
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: Welsh you can take your big steps to get there

770
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: in time, but then as you get there, you should

771
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: shorten your steps down steps up to you know, leager

772
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: to give you go laterally or Yeah, if you.

773
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 2: See Stephen Crichton or Joey Man, you're very good. You

774
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: get into the space and then short feet and then

775
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: your last foot should be you know, if you want

776
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: to tackle your right shoulder and you're right, right foot

777
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: should be right where they are kind of right. Was

778
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: if you go big steps, you're gonna So it's that technical. Yeah,

779
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: it's technical too. And then yeah, back to the tackle.

780
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 2: I watched it. He did slip, he did sleep, and

781
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: more height I could have been, Like, honestly, I didn't

782
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 2: mean to hit him in the ahead. I didn't mean

783
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: to hit him ahead at all, but to hit him

784
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: in the chest, yeah, I would. I love to got

785
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: the chest.

786
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: Like, if I have the chest, are you thinking that

787
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: I want to get him in the chest?

788
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: No, Honestly, I don't really think that. Like, like I

789
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: said about that logic corn is stick. I feel like

790
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: I've been a lot, you know, on the instinct side

791
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: when I play, Yeah, and I feel like it was

792
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 2: just honestly, it was just an accident. I didn't obviously,

793
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: I go into a game saying I want to play

794
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: with an intense intensity and blah blah blah. But yeah,

795
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: when I hit him in the head, it was just

796
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: like I didn't know if I was on to get

797
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 2: I didn't because I didn't know I got him flush

798
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 2: on the head until I got back and I saw

799
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: it on the replay and I was like, I didn't know,

800
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 2: I want to get set off. He made the right call,

801
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: Like at the end of the day, he made the right

802
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: call of sending me.

803
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: Off, and you feel like, like, what's the feeling goes

804
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: through you win? He has Joseph over here?

805
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I thought, like, I don't know a slide

806
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 2: chance if I was wanting to get like ten minutes

807
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: or something like that. But I knew, like you know,

808
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: you know, once you're you know you've done something, You're

809
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, he gets sugned off and you kind

810
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: of walk in the change rooms and then you just

811
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: the first thing you think about as the team, because

812
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 2: you know, you trained that whole ten day camp just

813
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: to get to this game, and you know you want

814
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: to you want to win. Well, you want to win.

815
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 2: That's that's how I feel. And and yeah, you just

816
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 2: felt like you let a lot of people down. I

817
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 2: feel like I let the team down. And that was

818
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: the main thing. I feel like I let the team down.

819
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 2: And what do they say to you when I was

820
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: very confident, like everyone was very they knew like I

821
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: was like very like disappointed kind of thing like that.

822
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 2: So they knew, like I get around him. There's still

823
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 2: two more games. There's still two more games. So everyone's

824
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 2: very magic, say Madge magic said the same thing. He

825
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 2: didn't mean to, you know, like to go for his head,

826
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: and so like it wasn't it wasn't a thing of

827
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: anyone getting angry or its actually very Madge brought me

828
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: into like the King for game two, and I put

829
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: me an extended bench for Origin three as well, So

830
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: I saw that, which was very good, just to be

831
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 2: still part of the you know, the New South Wales. Yeah,

832
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 2: even though and he played a couple of minutes.

833
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: But by the way, should before in pride of that?

834
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: Actually you in Vegas?

835
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked in Vegas. Yeah, how good was that?

836
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: That was? I was there?

837
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: It was for me I was expected to, but like

838
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: how good was for you as a player?

839
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: Ah, like even just the whole lead up because we

840
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 2: went to l also l A. Yeah, you say label

841
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 2: training there. I feel like I was one of the

842
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 2: best experiences I've had my life. I really yeah, just

843
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: like I've always loved traveling. That was always a you

844
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: know a thing of myself I've always loved traveling and

845
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 2: just try, like, you know, I know, the world's big,

846
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: so I've always you know, I always wanted to experience

847
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: different things. And you know, being able to go to

848
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: u c. L A And train there, what else we do?

849
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: I think the Raiders facility. We train there, went to

850
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: an NBA basketball game, watched Lebron play. I'm one of

851
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 2: my favorite players. Yeah, watching Lebron play like live, that

852
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: was cool too, But I just experienced it with like,

853
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: you know, your best mates as well. I feel like

854
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: that's just even like going to dinners and stuff like that.

855
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, it look back at it now,

856
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 2: I'm just like, man, it was pretty cool, and.

857
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: I guess I really can't go past it. I have

858
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: to raise it before I get onto the rugby union.

859
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: But Nick, what do you what would you say about Nick?

860
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean, everyone you know he often referred uncle Nick

861
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff, the godfather, regul league,

862
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: blah blah. But what what was your experience with Nick

863
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: Poloit as that chamman.

864
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: I first met Nick when I was, you know, seventeen,

865
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: because I was deciding to come where I wanted to go.

866
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: I was on a union or stay at rabbit O's

867
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 2: or come to the Roosters. And I remember I was

868
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: sitting down. I went to his house, went to Nick's

869
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 2: house in Need the Opera House, and you know, went up.

870
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is not like you know,

871
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 2: this is nice, this is cool. I've never been to

872
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: one of these fancy the houses before. But I think

873
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: straight away, like Nick doesn't say it, like, he doesn't

874
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: say too much, but he's very the same thing as

875
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: my parents. He's very like confident in the way he

876
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 2: you know, approaches you your parents. It's all about family for him,

877
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: and he's always he's always included myself, but there's always

878
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: been my filming too, and I feel like that's always

879
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: hit home for myself, and I think, yeah, Nick's always

880
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 2: just if you need a hand with anything, you always

881
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 2: know Nick's always always there for not just for yourself,

882
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: but your family. And which is the biggest part of

883
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: why I gravitated, gravitated towards coming towards the Roosters, because

884
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: I just knew him straight away within meeting and Robbo,

885
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: it was just yeah, that was the first two things.

886
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: But Nick, well, honestly, he's a great man, doesn't say

887
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 2: too much. But he's very back to the word company.

888
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but he treats a club log a family.

889
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, like the whole clubveryvery every every player just

890
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: to myself, just like every player and their family. He's

891
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: the whole squad. And I feel like the best thing

892
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: we talk about as a crew to roosters even just

893
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: like we'll go from midweek lunches or midwek dinners, you know,

894
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 2: and he would take us out for dinner and we're

895
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: talking to the board, like you know, like boys would

896
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: say other clubs, I wouldn't even meet their board of

897
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 2: thing like that. And then we always say like, man,

898
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: like we got to go, you know, dinner's like you know,

899
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: a Tuesday week and just go to dinner and meet

900
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: the whole board and NIXT like you know, he's always

901
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: looking after it kind of thing like that, and it's

902
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, you don't. I don't feel like many

903
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: organizations have that.

904
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

905
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: I haven't been to any other different One'm about to,

906
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 2: but I feel like, you know, everyone having that relationship

907
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 2: with Nick. Obviously everyone knows knows him, but like I

908
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: feel like us boys get to know him on.

909
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: A That's right, because most people don't really know him.

910
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like what they read about him. Yeah, yeah,

911
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: we get a great thing because we always we see

912
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: him each week, like every couple of weeks we go

913
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: for dinner. We always see him there.

914
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: And he doesn't miss a game, and he's always and

915
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: then there's the dinners he holds down the road from

916
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: our studio down the road there, and and he knows

917
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: what everyone's family is doing too, and he's interested.

918
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: He's always he's always asking how the families are. He's

919
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: always a genuine man.

920
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

921
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: I think with Nick, even though like you've read the

922
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: things about you know what Nick has and blah blah blah,

923
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: he's a he's a good human first of all. And

924
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 2: what about Robert Robos A, he's a good man, rob Yeah.

925
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: I mean what has he done for you?

926
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 2: He Yeah, he brought me in when I was young,

927
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: like seventeen, and he's always you know, he's taught me

928
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: the tough way of footy. First, what does that mean?

929
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: The you know, the hard carries, the you know, the

930
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: yardage carries, what else? Just learning like the off off

931
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: board kind of things. I feel like when you're young,

932
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: you don't really think about that stuff. The effort areas

933
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: all that. I feel like that's the biggest thing that

934
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: you know, Robbo has taught myself in aspect, but even

935
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: just off the field, He's taught me a lot about

936
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: in a spiritual sense totally.

937
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,240
Speaker 1: Not many people know that about him, but he's.

938
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: Very spiritual and I feel like I've learned a lot.

939
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: I've always loved that spiritual stuff. I love learning as

940
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: much as I can and just like just seeing what

941
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: works for me. And I feel like he's, you know,

942
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 2: brought a lot of that into my life, which I'm

943
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 2: grateful for.

944
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: Because are you religious in your family?

945
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: Yeah? Parents, yeah, Christian?

946
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, a lot of because a lot of the

947
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: Pacific Island is very religious and in some of the

948
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: clubs you see them even praying before they go into

949
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: the game. Is your family like very religious?

950
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like it was an important.

951
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: Part of your life.

952
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so my my my dad's old man, my

953
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 2: grandpa and some more. He's a he's a past over there,

954
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,479
Speaker 2: so he's always praying for us and all that. Yeah,

955
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Like I've gone to church a lot, but yeah I haven't.

956
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 2: I haven't really been like lately, I would save for

957
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: me personally.

958
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: Your dad's listening to this soul. He's going to go.

959
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,439
Speaker 1: Don't worry.

960
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to go. He he don't worry, he's

961
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 2: not going to trash it and he's going to go.

962
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: He's going to go. Let's talk about Raaby union. Come on.

963
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: So obviously they head hundred you or hunted you to

964
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: get to other ruby union and it's there's no secret

965
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: you're getting paid a lot of money, particularly compared to

966
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: what you get paid in rugby league, and they've recruited

967
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: you as a as it to some extent, what it

968
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: looks like is someone who may be able to save

969
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: the save the side because the Australians, not Australians not

970
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 1: doing well in rugby union. We haven't been doing well.

971
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: First it was wartas and now it's well done you

972
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: in Australian side. Do you feel pressure because you know

973
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: there be other players whion't be getting this amount of money.

974
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,280
Speaker 1: Your new kid on the block come from rugby, admitted

975
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: that you played rugby union, played at school and no

976
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: one probably no one doubts your ability, but your credentials

977
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: aren't there yet as a rugby union player, your abilities

978
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: there and your credentials there. There is a rugby league player.

979
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Is that add pressure to you?

980
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: I think first with the money, I thought, I feel

981
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: like I don't play the game because of money. I've always,

982
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: I've always The reason I wanted to go was always

983
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: I wanted to play on a Lions tour. Like I

984
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 2: was always a play against the pumps. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,

985
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: like when I was because every twelve years that happens

986
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 2: a Lions tour. And I remember sitting there as a

987
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 2: kid and I was like, this is what I want

988
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: to do one day is playing a line? Yeah? Well

989
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 2: I remember as a kid, I watched it on TV.

990
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: I watched when his debut. I watched it and Curly

991
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 2: Bill had to kick the winner and his slipped and

992
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 2: I remember sitting there and I was like burning.

993
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: Well.

994
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 2: I was like I still remember to this day and

995
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: I was like no, like one day like I will

996
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: play and I will play in the on to it

997
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 2: and it's always says.

998
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: The lines store coming up.

999
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so next year twenty five And the other thing

1000
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: was the home World Cup in twenty twenty seven, and

1001
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,479
Speaker 2: even that like just a home World Cup. The last

1002
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: song was here was two and three, and that's when

1003
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: I was That's when I was born, and yeah, even

1004
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: just that for itself, and I was just like, the

1005
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 2: experience is going to have, you know, playing and travel

1006
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: and travel. I was like, this is like once in

1007
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: a lifetime kind of thing. And I'm like, especially while playing,

1008
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: I was like, this is what I'm going to do

1009
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: one day?

1010
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: And then is it just like a sunny Bill Williams

1011
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: moment like two Like, I mean, obviously wudn't play with

1012
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: the gil Blacks, but is that similar to it? Do

1013
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: you think it's a similar sort of feeling and the

1014
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: people like him reach out to you and say, hey, mate,

1015
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: this is sort of stuff.

1016
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: You should look at for oh, like to go to

1017
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: union kind of thing. Yeah, obviously I've got like a

1018
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 2: lot of support, Like you know, is he sunny Bill?

1019
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: They've always always know, having more corner to go for

1020
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: advice and stuff like that. But I've always it was funny,

1021
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 2: even before I started playing rugby league, when I come

1022
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 2: to the Roosters, I've always had like a vision plan

1023
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 2: of what I wanted to do in the next eight

1024
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 2: Like you know, I've always known what I wanted.

1025
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: To do strategically.

1026
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I sat down and I was like, sat down,

1027
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 2: I was like this is what I want to do.

1028
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: This is what I want to do like each year

1029
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: as an achievement. Yeah, like kind of like goal setting

1030
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: or experience goal setting it.

1031
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: I was like it's like goal setting but also like

1032
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 2: a vision plan of like I would sit down and

1033
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: be like, this is what I want to do in

1034
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 2: my life kind of thing. And I always knew I

1035
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: was I wanted to play on the lies to when

1036
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 2: I World Cup and yeah I a Grand Final regular. Yeah, yeah,

1037
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: that was my I was like that was my thing.

1038
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Had Union come asked me if I wanted to come

1039
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: there last year because I had an option of my deal,

1040
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:56,800
Speaker 2: but I was always ex option favorite ru Yeah, the

1041
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: favorite Rusters, because in my head I was like this

1042
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 2: is this is like this is a year like ey

1043
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: like burns me out. We didn't you know, didn't get there.

1044
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, in my head like obviously I want to,

1045
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: you know, win a premiership. That's always been as honestly

1046
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 2: burns me. I still burns you know.

1047
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: We got to the like you're only twenty one, I

1048
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: know that, but like it's just like there's anyway actually

1049
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: like yeah, I just like it's just the thing of

1050
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: you know, winning a premiership I've always you know, there

1051
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 3: was always a thing I've really wanted to do.

1052
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: Do you He is someone then who has your goals

1053
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: and you like you had to go through methodically tick

1054
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: them off and sort of say I'm playing down real

1055
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you sort of got select foraging, but you

1056
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: never have had a full games. It's probably something still up.

1057
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's always Yeah, I've always been a dream

1058
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: big guy. I've always you know, written down things of

1059
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: like this is what I want to do and this

1060
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: is and I'd write them down. And then that's why

1061
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: I've been working a lot more sports, because I've always

1062
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 2: been you know, just dreaming about different things. But I

1063
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: need to work on the process of getting that kind

1064
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 2: of thing. Yeah.

1065
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: And I supposed to being a dreamer.

1066
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, dreamer. I've always been like a dreamer, but you've.

1067
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: Got to have the dream that's got to achieve it.

1068
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to achieve it too. And I've always

1069
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 2: like now i feel like I've changed my mentality. I've

1070
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 2: been like gold driven to want to be more process

1071
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: driven kind of yeah.

1072
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because the Goali can dream up in a day,

1073
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: but the process can take years.

1074
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. I feel like I love now I'm like taken

1075
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 2: it by day by day. Instead i'd been like, I

1076
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 2: want to win. We're going to win the premiership. How

1077
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,239
Speaker 2: can I get better each day kind of thing?

1078
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: And would you think rugby union can help you become better?

1079
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: Say it regularly even understand I feel like young, Yeah,

1080
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: I feel like more kicking game will get better.

1081
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: Kicking is pretty good already, your goal kicking game especially.

1082
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's actually ye pretty good this year. Yeah, it's

1083
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 2: been good. Yeah, it's been good. I used to honestly

1084
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: stay a whole day apart like a club park. We

1085
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 2: have a field called Chasitan Reserve. I used to go

1086
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: to the whole day. I want to go to the

1087
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 2: whole day because my parents always drive to get like

1088
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 2: groceries or something. They would know where I was because

1089
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 2: I was just always practicing. And then when the opportunity

1090
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: to come to the goalkicker, I was like, sweet, I've

1091
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: been doing this. You know. I had a couple of

1092
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: shockers at the start, like getting used to the crowded

1093
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 2: and get into the process of kicking that. But now

1094
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm very confident, you know, going to

1095
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: union too. I feel like I want to I want

1096
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 2: to kick a goal kick as well. And yeah, I

1097
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: feel like that the skill of you know, learning how

1098
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 2: to kick left foot, right foot, spiral pass, your skill's

1099
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 2: got to be great to players Ruby union. Yeah, I

1100
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 2: feel like that's one of my strengths, been able to

1101
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 2: my skill. I've always loved working on my skill. But

1102
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what I can bring, you know,

1103
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: say I play Ruby le one day again, I feel

1104
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: like that's what I can bring as well.

1105
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: We're expecting you there, you know, you know union and

1106
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: every for a little while, we're expecting you to come back.

1107
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: We want your back anyway, the rooster that is, I'm

1108
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: talking about it, and I think the ame Roagay League

1109
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: wants you back to and I think Origin would like

1110
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 1: you back, and I'm no doubt the Australian So I

1111
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: would like to have it back to it, you know.

1112
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: But like let's just talk about your rugby union. But

1113
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: what to expect in terms of ready union. So people

1114
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: like Gus feel goold, not Angus, but feel gold. But

1115
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: they all had a pretty big crack at you. It

1116
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: was pretty controversial. Young Blake too. You're only twenty I

1117
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: think at the time side it. What did how did

1118
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: you sort of process that ship, like especially when someone

1119
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: feel girl said something, Yeah, here's the door showing all

1120
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 1: that NBA. I respect Phil like what he's done for

1121
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: rugby League. He's done a lot like for the game,

1122
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: you know, even now of the Dogs. Yeah.

1123
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I've always said I was like, I don't

1124
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: take it personally kind of thing like that, because it's

1125
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 2: just it's just he's heard the question. He's just he's

1126
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: going to make it about He's not having an attack

1127
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 2: on Mete. He's having an attack at Rubby Union, Ruby Union,

1128
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So I've always seen it

1129
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: in the fact of like I'm not gonna I'm not

1130
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: gonna take it personally. I'm just going to take it

1131
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: as you know, Phils just having a reaction towards something

1132
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 2: that's not doing towards me. And I've always I felt

1133
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 2: like I've always been good at dealing with things like that,

1134
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: And if I see him on the streets to day,

1135
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: I'll still go shake his hand and go talk to

1136
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: him and stuff like that, because I have no hard

1137
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: feelings of what, Yeah, I don't feel like you said

1138
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 2: anything bad anyway.

1139
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: Well, Peter Vland has sort of said, you're going to

1140
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: get bored and you'll come back to rub anyway, and

1141
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: of course ending world down very well in the rugby

1142
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: union world. But I look, you know, I've had people

1143
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: sitting in that chair ex Roby union players, the current

1144
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: coach of Ramwick Stevie Wells, who basically said Robune has

1145
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: got a problem HM and Austrain Rebune. I'm talking about

1146
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: at the probably at every level, but at this train

1147
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: at the not so much of the club level, because

1148
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: he said the club level is pretty good, it's alive

1149
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: and it's booming, but at the elite level we're not

1150
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: doing that well. And just I understand it nearly looks

1151
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: like by signing you up it looked like a poach.

1152
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: They've poached you out, one of the the up and

1153
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 1: coming rugby league players, a young guy who has had

1154
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: rugby union experience, like a bit of a superstar. They've

1155
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: plucked you out, poached out out of the rugby league

1156
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 1: system to make to try and to prove the rugby

1157
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: union system. And that therefore is nearly an admission that

1158
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 1: there's a problem by the top of administration at the time.

1159
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: By the way, it's not now. There's a different administration now,

1160
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: not the same administration nearly like an admission. You watch

1161
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: rugby union obviously, do you feel as though that they

1162
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: need to I mean we need to change the results,

1163
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,840
Speaker 1: that's for sure. They're shitty results and they're not results

1164
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: Australians are proud of got a new coach. Do you

1165
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: feel as though rugby union needs driven? If so, what

1166
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: have they got to do? Like, what do you think

1167
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: the issue is? Is there recruitment?

1168
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 2: Well, look like we were play like GPS rugby. A

1169
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,920
Speaker 2: lot of league boys do, and then you know, when

1170
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: you're sixteen seventeen, like boys are trying to see like

1171
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 2: wherever I'm going to get, you know, signed to the league.

1172
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 2: The league club has always come obviously. I think it's

1173
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 2: starting to change now too. I think Gussie was the

1174
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: first Angus Crichton was the first one of the first

1175
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 2: players to be like I'm not I'm not going to play.

1176
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wait till twenty one to play. I

1177
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: want to play when i'm eighteen. I feel like that

1178
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: was the case back then. I feel like it's changed

1179
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 2: a lot now. I feel like I think this year

1180
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 2: they signed a lot of the eight as boys that

1181
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: Freddy's boy. Yeah, Freddy's Boy. You know, they've they've signed

1182
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: a lot of players in the you know eighteen. I

1183
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 2: feel like they've signed most of them EXCEPTN one or two.

1184
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I feel like it's not for

1185
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 2: me to be like how how how are the organizations

1186
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: when I change? I feel like I'm going to leave

1187
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 2: that to them for like what I can bring, you know,

1188
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: towards you know, the war retards first and then is

1189
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 2: like for like that. I'm not going to say it,

1190
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 2: but I want to change everything. But I'm saying I

1191
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, by me, you know, helping you know,

1192
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 2: other players, helping myself.

1193
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: Just to encourage other younger blokes. You've been there and say, Okay,

1194
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go to rugby League. I'm not

1195
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: going to go to AHL or whatever the case I'm

1196
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: going to get. I'm going to continue on the rugby

1197
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: union path because you know, just.

1198
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 2: You know what I hope because I feel like when

1199
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: we do play this Spring Tour and the Lines Tour

1200
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: and a Home Ord Cup, I feel like a lot

1201
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: of kids are going to be inspired to one day

1202
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: I want to play in a green and gold jersey

1203
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 2: or warortized jersey. I feel like that's the biggest grab

1204
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 2: coming into this next three or four years. I feel

1205
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: like that's probably the biggest thing for Australian rugby. You know,

1206
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 2: we do win games and we see the young kids

1207
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 2: in the crowd or you know, fifteen sixteen year olds

1208
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: being like all right, this is what I want to

1209
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: do one day. I feel like that's the biggest And.

1210
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 1: Do you feel easy you have an obligation to sort

1211
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: of draw these younger kids along, like, you know, as

1212
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: a because you know, at some stage you already become

1213
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 1: a sort of a senior not a senior RPE union player,

1214
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: certain you're getting into that sort of league league senior

1215
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 1: area in terms of years at least. Some of the

1216
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: mine is by younger blokes to follow through in the

1217
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: rugby union.

1218
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel I love that responsibility. Yeah, I feel like,

1219
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: you know, I love that. I feel like I'm a

1220
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: good guy off the field. And then one time in

1221
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 2: the film I'm trying to win. I feel like that's

1222
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: anything not winning. I'm not going to walk walk past.

1223
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 2: I'll do everything in my in my world and my

1224
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: time to be like everything's towards or how can we

1225
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 2: win this training session on Tuesday leading.

1226
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: Up to the winter training session. What do you mean

1227
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: how do you win train well?

1228
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 2: Like for me personally, i'd be how am I going

1229
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 2: to prepare for the day, Like I'd wake up the

1230
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 2: right way I'd wake up. I'll get my good hour

1231
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: of sleep being my routine. So I'm best for that

1232
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: training and I'm set, like I feel like setting the

1233
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 2: standard for you know, I'm not setting the standard. I

1234
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: know everyone has their own processes of what they do.

1235
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 2: But if I'm best at my training session, I feel

1236
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 2: like that's just when I helped towards the game kind

1237
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: of thing like that.

1238
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: That's funny, just funny should say that because I remember

1239
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: years when sunny Bill came back to the Rousters. Someone

1240
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: told me, I can't remember aways might have been the coach,

1241
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: but said that Sunday came in before it, got in

1242
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,400
Speaker 1: before everybody else. And I remember hearing stories about you

1243
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: getting in before everybody else too, and coming in by

1244
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: train from your family's home when you're at school. But

1245
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: Sonny came in before everybody else. He had a clipboard

1246
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: and he was there doing video sessions before everyone else

1247
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 1: got in, and his there taking notes the whole training

1248
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: session and what I was told is that everyone else

1249
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: is watching him and the whole standard lifted of everybody,

1250
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,760
Speaker 1: and no one asked him to that. That's just his natural,

1251
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: perfectionist sort of personality. Are you that type of person.

1252
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I'm not a person to go

1253
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: tell oh, I do like you should do this, do

1254
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 2: that to anyone else. I've always been, you know, focused

1255
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: on what I do. I feel like I get in early.

1256
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: I feel like my preparation has always been for myself.

1257
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 2: I've always seen that as a big thing of how

1258
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: I can prepare for the game in you know, visualizing

1259
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: or you know, stretching or I've always found that there's

1260
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 2: a whole whole thing that goes around footage just just

1261
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: not been just not you know, just training and passing

1262
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 2: the ball, blah blah blah. I feel like it's a

1263
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 2: lot of things that you need to put towards the game.

1264
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 2: And I feel like, you know, do you have like

1265
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: a process?

1266
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: I mean like I mean, like let's let's pick at

1267
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: any one day, you know, you've got to go to

1268
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: training and let's say there's a game, big game coming

1269
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: up on Friday night or said day. What would you

1270
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: be a routine on like on a training day, like

1271
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: would you get about five o'clock or what do you

1272
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: do you get for a real extra run?

1273
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so say like I mean I'm in season, you know,

1274
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 2: I would get up early first of all, try to

1275
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: get everything your mental state right, uld go what do

1276
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: you do for that minute? Or go for you know,

1277
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: have a cold shower. Then I'd go for a walk

1278
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: and you know, just you know, try to take in

1279
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: pretty weird dude. I feel like I'm taken like nature,

1280
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 2: like trees blah blah blah.

1281
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 1: Makes sense.

1282
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then like walk down and go to a

1283
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 2: park and just sit there for me fifteen to twenty

1284
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 2: minutes and just sit and just like everyone has a

1285
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: different way of meditating. I feel like I just sit

1286
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 2: there and just visualize the day, like how can I

1287
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: best be best for like the day? Yeah kind of

1288
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 2: thing is that before you eat? And yeah, before I

1289
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: eat all that, And then I'll get my journal or

1290
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: journal every day and journal Yeah yeah, I a shtuld

1291
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 2: write stuff out, write stuff out of like I wouldn't

1292
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 2: say like right like oh this is why I'd write,

1293
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: like how things I want to, how I want to

1294
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 2: what I want to do today and send my energy

1295
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: towards different things, and then what else would I do?

1296
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: I would manifest different things as well about just the

1297
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: day instead of because I've always been that you know

1298
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 2: that dream, dude, I've always like how I'm going to

1299
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: attack today right now?

1300
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 1: Did you get help to learn how to do this

1301
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 1: that you do it? You as sports? So college just

1302
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:03,680
Speaker 1: help you out.

1303
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 2: I feel like just a like this is of just

1304
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: you know, reading different things, listen to different podcasts, and

1305
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: I've tried a lot of things and that just haven't

1306
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: hasn't worked out. I feel like it chops and changes

1307
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: all the time too. Don't get me wrong, I feel

1308
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 2: like there not one set routines when I've been for

1309
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 2: the rest of my career.

1310
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: I feel like, but this works for you at the moment, at.

1311
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: The moment, this is what works for me right now,

1312
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: and I feel like that's you know, just doing my

1313
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 2: process each day helps me go, all right, this is

1314
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 2: how I want to take the day, and you know,

1315
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: get the training, you know, I feel like I get

1316
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: there early and then you know, start it just depends

1317
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: what we have kind of thing like that, and start

1318
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: like stretching, and I feel like different things I've learned

1319
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 2: from my trainer and different people and just you know,

1320
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 2: combine at all. And then once I know I step

1321
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 2: on the field, like I'm ready to go.

1322
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Are you strict on diet? Like the mini style diets?

1323
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 2: I feel like coming to boys like this is like, yeah,

1324
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: they're really strict. I feel like I was a couple

1325
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 2: of times when I first came in, I didn't really

1326
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: I don't really know about you know, different foods and

1327
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:08,440
Speaker 2: that when you go up you just eat what's on

1328
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 2: the table kind of thing like that. You don't really Yeah, yeah,

1329
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: when you're a border to like eat school food. And

1330
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: then I feel like the more you learn about like

1331
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: grass for like organic foods, I feel like that's now

1332
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 2: in my diet. But at the same time, I feel

1333
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 2: like there's a there's a balance between what you need

1334
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 2: to do because you know, you can't be just straight

1335
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: the whole time. You know you've got to miss miss

1336
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: it up. Sometimes. Yeah, that's the best. I feel like

1337
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 2: that's the best thing. I have had some times where

1338
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 2: I've been, you know, too straight on and just like

1339
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: this is what I'm gonna do. I'm not going to

1340
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: touch anything else. And then I feel like You're gonna

1341
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 2: have freedom somewhere in your life as well, and I

1342
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 2: feel like that's the best way of doing it for myself.

1343
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: Anyone else are different, some people could be different, But

1344
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 2: for myself, that works for you most of me.

1345
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, But have you ever you have probably haven't played

1346
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: enough years, But have you ever off the preseason gone

1347
01:00:58,960 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: to the fest food?

1348
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: No? No, I feel like I've always see you a drinker. No, No,

1349
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: I don't drink. I've actually never had ahol at all ever.

1350
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: Really yeah, no, I never got interested, or my parents

1351
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 2: never you know, never drank. I've never seen him drink

1352
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: growing up, and I've always, don't know, I've always had

1353
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: fun without it kind of I'll go out like I'll

1354
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 2: go out still, and I always, you know, I would always.

1355
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: I feel like another person who helped me a lot

1356
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,919
Speaker 2: was Joey Mine, who, like he doesn't he doesn't drink.

1357
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 2: He's very comfortable in his own skin. And then once

1358
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: I first come into n RL and I saw him

1359
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: doing that too, and I was like, oh, I want

1360
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: to do it, bro, that's my bro. I want to

1361
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 2: do what he's going to do kind of things.

1362
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: So that's amazing though. That's interesting because the amount of

1363
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 1: influence some of Joey Man has had on you and

1364
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: then you will have on others. Yeah, like down down

1365
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: the trail.

1366
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny like Joey doesn't say too much, but

1367
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of I feel like myself, Like, well,

1368
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 2: I don't say a lot too. I feel like we

1369
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: kind of just pick up but observe, Like I feel myself,

1370
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 2: I feel like I observe a lot seeing what other

1371
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 2: boys do or even like say Daniel too, but he

1372
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,439
Speaker 2: stretches a lot and I'll see like what he's doing,

1373
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: so I can, you know, and he would do a

1374
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: lot of ash and recovery. I'm like, okay, I know

1375
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 2: that's why he's been playing for so long. Obviously other

1376
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 2: things as well, but I'm all right, this is what

1377
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to pick up on and then see different

1378
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: people doing different things, and then you just like I

1379
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: feel like that's one of my strengths as well, just

1380
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 2: observing and seeing how I can it to myself.

1381
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 1: That's interesting. You sort of like taking out the system

1382
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 1: what's best, yeah, and trying it, yeah, and see if

1383
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: it works. Yeah, if we stick to it. If it

1384
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: doesn't work, just guard it and get it onto something else.

1385
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, even like Lindsay. Lindsay's very strict with his diet

1386
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: and I always ask quite like I sometimes I would

1387
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: ask him or what I asked people around here and

1388
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: be like, oh, what's he you know what I mean,

1389
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 2: and just quickly just you know, there's like observe and

1390
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 2: then try it if it works, and then yeah, I

1391
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: feel like that's just life.

1392
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: It's funny ask things about that. And he said to me,

1393
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: he's strict. And he said to me, made I'm playing

1394
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 1: up front row. He said, I've got to give myself

1395
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: my best possible chance. He said, so one thing I

1396
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 1: can control is my diet.

1397
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

1398
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: Although Lokado sort of laid him out last week last

1399
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: Friday night.

1400
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: He's got three times I reckon now, but he's got

1401
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 2: Lindsay three times. Yeah, we got in the final. I

1402
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: got him twice in that game and got him in

1403
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: the test match test match. But yeah, he's always getting

1404
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 2: up and keep on going.

1405
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: He's a best his giant.

1406
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a giant, huge Honestly, even in the Origin cameras,

1407
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 2: this guy's huge.

1408
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: His timing is good too, such a big man.

1409
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got good time. He's got like good feet

1410
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: gone his contact as well, and he's high and he's

1411
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: just just pal.

1412
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: So, Joseph, what we're at the end now, and you've

1413
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 1: done a great job to by the way, so he

1414
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: didn't need to be nervous in the beginning. So because

1415
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: you're naturally at this and you're a good You're a

1416
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: good speaker, you're a good talker. You know, you know

1417
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: your stuff. What is the most exciting thing now that's

1418
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 1: ahead of you? Like just now, what are you thinking

1419
01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,200
Speaker 1: about right not today but not this minute, but right

1420
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: now in your life? What's the most exciting thing that's

1421
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: ahead of you? What are you really excited about?

1422
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 2: What am I excited about?

1423
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: Here?

1424
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 2: I'm twenty one now, I think I'm very confident in

1425
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: my in my skin. I know who I am. I

1426
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 2: know like I love for my family. I feel like

1427
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: I'm very excited for you know what, I well rugby

1428
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: wise as well. I'm very excited to get to travel

1429
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: the world. I'm going to go a lot in this

1430
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: next three or four years. I feel like I'm going

1431
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: to grow into I'm a man now. I feel like

1432
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 2: I went from a kid to a man at the

1433
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: Roosters and I feel like I've learned a lot from mentors,

1434
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 2: you know, Luke Eary, Jared and Daniel and Joey. I

1435
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: feel like I've learned so much from them, and I'm

1436
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 2: grateful for allder friendships I've made there. But i feel

1437
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 2: like I'm going to my next path from my journey

1438
01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 2: with rugby, and I feel like I'm a what I say,

1439
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: I think I'm a man in a sense of like, oh,

1440
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna attack every moment, but I'm going to get

1441
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 2: like playing rugby wise or I'm gonna you know. I

1442
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 2: feel like the skills I've learned and will learn, will

1443
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 2: you know, help me on the footy field and off

1444
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 2: the field. I feel like I've got to. I'm very

1445
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 2: I'm just very honestly, I'm very excited just what's what's

1446
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: to come with rugby. But yeah, I feel like even

1447
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 2: just off the field, it's as good age from twenty

1448
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: four to you know, twenty one to like, you know,

1449
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 2: in my next three four years of my life is

1450
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: very sign off the field and on the field as well.

1451
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: And You've been pretty lucky. You've only I think if

1452
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: I had one major injury.

1453
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had one major injury.

1454
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: So you've been pretty lucky in that. Not lucky. You

1455
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: obviously got the physicality not to get injured. You're probably

1456
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: also doing all the right things and probably not drinking

1457
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 1: probably helps. I think anyway, if you you know, quite

1458
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: possibly you could play to your you know, thirty four

1459
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: to thirty five, play either reunion or or come back

1460
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:00,479
Speaker 1: the league.

1461
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you could.

1462
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no reason why not. And you and you

1463
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:07,360
Speaker 1: won't get knocked about as much. And you're sort of

1464
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: playing out wide. You know, you're not doing hit ups.

1465
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: I just carry you do any yard and carries so,

1466
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: which means it'll preserve you.

1467
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1468
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that seems to me like quite a clever,

1469
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: strategically quite smart if you want to build a long career,

1470
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,000
Speaker 1: because you know, when you turn, when you stop playing

1471
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 1: footy whatever whichever code you're playing, you got to do

1472
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: something after that. Have you thought about what do I

1473
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: do after all that? I know it's a big care

1474
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: you're only twenty one, you're only just in the middle

1475
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: of it all, But have you thought about that?

1476
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: I was actually thinking about that. I feel like I haven't.

1477
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 2: I tried union for like a week, and I was

1478
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 2: very I said, I was like a zoom class. I

1479
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 2: saturned and I was like, Na, this is not for me.

1480
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 2: But at the moment, at the moment, I don't get

1481
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 2: me wrong, my Mum's always saying to me like you

1482
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: need you know, you've got to think about things outside

1483
01:06:55,000 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: of footy. I feel like footy takes on you know

1484
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 2: what I mean, like the energy of you know, like

1485
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 2: if you're off days, you think about how can I recover?

1486
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 2: How can I do this? How can I do that?

1487
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 2: How can I do that? But also I feel like,

1488
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: you know, having something else can you know, play a

1489
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 2: role in you know, having that slow part of being

1490
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 2: away from footy. But I haven't had anything that's really

1491
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 2: you know, come come to me.

1492
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:24,040
Speaker 1: Nothing really excited yet.

1493
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing's really Oh I don't I don't mind learn

1494
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,000
Speaker 2: about like property and stuff like that. I feel like

1495
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,920
Speaker 2: I've learned a little bit, like a little bit of that.

1496
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1497
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 2: I feel like.

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01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 1: Because Lindsay has just done his mortgage course, yeah, and

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01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: case Luke's done a Lucky has done a couple of

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01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 1: university degrees. And you know these boys that you're probably

1501
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: they're much older than you, but there's they've thought about

1502
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: what they're going to do post footy. They've obviously got

1503
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: families and stuff too. They got kids, both got kids.

1504
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: They're thinking about those processes and you're way, you know,

1505
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: we need that at this stage. But at some stage,

1506
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: I guess it's important that you do think about these

1507
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: sort of things, and it's good that you just sort

1508
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,320
Speaker 1: of just starting mulled over. But do your parents they say, Joseph,

1509
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 1: what happens if you get injured or Joseph, My.

1510
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 2: Parents are real like cruisy in a sense, like they

1511
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 2: trust me. Yeah, they trust me because I know I've

1512
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 2: always been just driven to do something. I live on myself.

1513
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:26,640
Speaker 2: So I said, sometimes I said, I'm like, what am

1514
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: I going to do? Like you know what I mean,

1515
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,800
Speaker 2: like besides footy kind of thing. But I feel like

1516
01:08:30,880 --> 01:08:33,560
Speaker 2: I love, you know, like meeting people and then you know,

1517
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want, you know, say I meet someone and

1518
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 2: then you know, try their industry or like just just

1519
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 2: just try different things, but work like being experience, like experience.

1520
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 2: I feel like the paper and pen has never been territory,

1521
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:48,920
Speaker 2: not my territory. So I feel like you never went

1522
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 2: to school because you're playing. I was never at school

1523
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: even in school year twelve year.

1524
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: You're playing in four different sides.

1525
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I feel like that's where my journeys

1526
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: want to go where. Yeah, well I always said it.

1527
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: If I wasn't playing food, I feel like I'd be traveling,

1528
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 2: staying in hostels and you know, meeting different people and

1529
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So I feel like something to travel

1530
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, I feel like I'm.

1531
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: Mad, Like you really love that idea of travel.

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I've always loved just you know, I'll do

1533
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 2: things by myself like I don't. Obviously I love my

1534
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 2: mates and I love my family, but I've always had

1535
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:29,560
Speaker 2: that thing of like nothing's holding me back from, you know,

1536
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 2: say something. Sometimes you know, people don't want to go

1537
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: to movies because I want to go with friends. I'm like,

1538
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 2: i'ld go to movies by myself. I'm very comfortable with

1539
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: my own skin, and I'm just like, if I want

1540
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:40,519
Speaker 2: to do something in my life, I want to do it,

1541
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 2: like I'm not going to let nothing hold me back

1542
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 2: from doing it.

1543
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,080
Speaker 1: You feel so you must feel quite free.

1544
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, like i'ld go sit down, like I always eat

1545
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 2: breakfast for myself. I'd always eat lunch or dinner. But

1546
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: obviously I love being around my mates. But I just like,

1547
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 2: I'm very very open to anyone wants a chat, but

1548
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'll sit there and you know, if

1549
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: someone's a chat to me, I'll chat to them. But

1550
01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm very not in a narc Yeah.

1551
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: At the same time, you're quite happy to be on

1552
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: your own yeaheah.

1553
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 2: I'm happy to be on my own, like I'm happy

1554
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:07,800
Speaker 2: to go.

1555
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: You know. That's a massive freedom, though, Joseph, to be

1556
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: able to be that person. Some people feel like they

1557
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: have to be attached to people all the time.

1558
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I've traveled to like Japan for two weeks for myself.

1559
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:18,799
Speaker 2: I've done. I just want to Hamilton Oland for myself

1560
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: like five or six days. Yeah. Well, I'm not saying

1561
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: I love hanging on my mates and my family, but

1562
01:10:26,160 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 2: I do love having my own time. That's what I would,

1563
01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 2: you know, That's what I'll be doing if I wasn't

1564
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 2: playing for you, I'd be traveling, traveling, staying at different hostels,

1565
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 2: meeting different people, trying to different languages. That's what I do,

1566
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,599
Speaker 2: learn different languages. Yeah, well that sounds like a really

1567
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 2: free spirited person. Yeah yeah, yeah, you really free spirited

1568
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 2: as an individual. Yeah yeah, well maybe you've done.

1569
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: It's so proud. Your mom and dad and your family

1570
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: are really proud. Everyone of the Russes is really excited

1571
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 1: for you, looking forward to your new career. We're also

1572
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: looking forward to coming back. But and it's been a

1573
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 1: delight for us to have you around in our environment.

1574
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: And Joseph Acuso Suli, thanks very much for coming on, Mate.

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01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 2: Than ver much.

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01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 1: It's been awesome talk about