WEBVTT - The Late Debate | 28 November 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:00.640 Lately. 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:05.240 General, welcome to the Late pay. 0:00:07.120 --> 0:00:07.280 Well. 0:00:07.280 --> 0:00:08.039 Thanks for joining us. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:11.320 I'm James Macpherson with Joe Hildebrand and Liz Sto. Great 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:12.120 to have your company. 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:12.680 We've got a. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:16.200 Lot to get through tonight, including a woman accused of 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:20.720 race hate for playing a Bob Bob Marley record. I reckon, 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:22.880 if you're going to engage your hate, you'd probably pay 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:25.480 us Taylor Swift record or something like that. We'll talk 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:27.600 about that later. Plus, when we look at the papers, 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:32.240 a new South Wales school slammed over sexually explicit questions 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:36.640 being asked of students in a classroom, and Victoria Park's 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.920 boss loses his job over the controversial closure of climbing 0:00:41.000 --> 0:00:43.559 routes in Victoria. We'll get to all of that when 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.280 we look at the papers. But first, it's Islamophobia Awareness 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:51.080 Month in the United Kingdom and to celebrate, Prime Minister 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:56.360 Keir Starmer has left open the possibility of introducing blasphemy laws. 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.840 He was asked in Parliament today. 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.320 By one of his own Muslim mp if you would 0:01:01.320 --> 0:01:06.440 commit to criminalizing the desecration of religious texts and the 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:11.280 prophet and Kirstama seemed way too inclined to oblige have 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:11.720 a listen. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:16.839 Will the Prime Minister commit to introducing megas to prohibit 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:18.319 the desecration of. 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:21.600 All religious texts and the profits. 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:24.320 Of the Abrahamic religion. We are, as I said, the 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:27.200 foremost to speaker, committed to tackling all forms of hatred 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:31.520 and division, including of course Islamophobia in all of its forms. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.200 Just before we get into the discussion on this, just. 0:01:35.200 --> 0:01:39.000 Should point out the sleight of hand by Tahir A 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:43.960 Lee who asked the question he's a Muslim MP. He 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:50.080 talked about can we outlaw disrespect for religious texts and 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.440 for profits of the Abrahamic religions? And of course what 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.680 that means is he's talking on behalf of Christians, Jews 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:02.160 and Muslims. Interesting, of course, is that neither Christians nor 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:08.280 Jews are calling for the criminalization of anybody disrespecting their religion, 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.440 but he pulls them in to make it seem like 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.360 he's doing this for everybody. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.919 He's worried about criticism of for the prophet Isaiah. Sure, 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.840 every obviously Isaiah, that was the first one that came 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:23.000 to mind. Mind, who are you thinking of it? 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:27.120 Well, it's also nonsensical because Christians believe Jesus is God 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.080 in human form. Muslims do not believe that at all. 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.200 They just believe he's a mere man, though a very 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:35.960 good one. And Jews think he was a total blasphemous. 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.560 So you've got all of these contradictions. But here's the 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.440 big thing. What he's asking for is not for people 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:45.600 to be protected. He's asking for ideas to be protected. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:48.400 And the one idea that should never be protected, and 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.359 I said this is a Christian is the idea of religion, 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.160 because religion is your answer to the big questions in life, 0:02:55.200 --> 0:02:57.760 where do we come from, what's wrong with the world, 0:02:57.960 --> 0:02:59.840 how do we fix it? How do you define right 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.720 and wrong? What happens when you die? If you can't 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.880 discuss those questions openly, then it pretty much makes it 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:10.680 impossible to talk about anything meaningful at all. And that's 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:13.200 what he's asking for, and that's what the UK Prime 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:14.799 Minister is saying he is. 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.440 Open to doing, to outlawing. 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:21.760 Any disrespect of religious ideas. You can't have a free 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.800 society in which religious ideas are unable to be critique, 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.320 criticized and if you want mocked. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.560 Indeed, and the Prime Minister, of course, no one would 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:35.400 expect this from kir Starmer should have responded by saying. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:36.119 Mate, get stuffed. 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:37.200 This is the UK. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:40.560 We have freedom of speech here and that includes people 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:43.320 being able to say things that you might not like. 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:47.480 Boohoo, so sad, this very weird would have. 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:47.960 Been a weird thing. 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:55.680 Is utterly ridiculous, right, because a phobia isn't an irrational fear. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:04:00.040 And I genuinely get hot under the collar when I 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:03.760 consider that people in the UK are being lectured on 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:09.440 is Lamophobia on the daily, when these guys have copped it, 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:13.800 when we talk about terrorist attacks on their own soil, 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:18.400 all by radical Islamist Back to two thousand and six, 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.360 we've got fifty two dead in. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:21.880 The July London bombings. 0:04:21.880 --> 0:04:22.600 In the tubes. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:27.440 We all remember that one May twenty seventeen Manchester. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.520 Arena bombing, another twenty two dead. 0:04:29.560 --> 0:04:34.200 A month later, eight dead in the London Bridge attack. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:38.320 And this is to say nothing of the individual instances 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.880 of people being beheaded in the street, as was the 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:46.920 case with Samuel Patty in twenty twenty, a teacher in 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:51.239 France going about his own business beheaded in the street, 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.799 and the twenty sixteen case. These are just the ones 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.280 that came to mind, by the way, the twenty sixteen 0:04:58.400 --> 0:05:01.000 case of the pre least his name was. 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.200 Jack Hammel who's beheaded during Mass. 0:05:04.440 --> 0:05:07.839 And of course most recently they're still coming to mind, 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:11.920 ladies and gentlemen, the Southport case where we had three 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:15.880 little girls killed by a guy who had in his 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:18.880 possession an El Qaida training manual. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:20.880 So how dare. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:25.760 You lecture people in the UK on being Islamophobic when 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:30.000 any fear they have is bloody well founded if they 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:34.560 have concerns relating to Islam. That is a country who 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:37.239 can say, don't lecture us, mate. 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.240 And this is nothing to do with a phobia. 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.240 This has nothing to do with racism, This has nothing 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.680 to do with us hating Muslims. We've simply had a 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:49.400 gut full of you gaslighting us into believing there's something 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.440 wrong with us when we simply keep looking at these cases. 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.200 And I'm sure if I lived in the UK I 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.360 could name far, far more. I haven't even got started 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.360 on the grooming gangs have been making a lot of 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.920 headlines in the UK recently, and their Prime Minister just 0:06:05.960 --> 0:06:08.320 wants to be like, oh, yeah, well, we're just going 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.520 to keep you know, putting the screws in you guys, 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.440 we can't have Islamophobia. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.440 I think he's actually doing something a bit cleverer than that, 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:20.120 I think because so he's obviously got his MP who said, 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.039 all right, will you commit to laws banning the desecration 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.880 quote unquote of religious texts? That is not what Keir 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:31.039 Starmer agrees to. So kis Dama says, oh, we're committed to, 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:33.600 you know, to tackling Islamo phobia, just. 0:06:33.520 --> 0:06:34.400 Something fun. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.200 A lot of forms, in all its forms, in. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:40.240 All its forms. That's right, But he's not actually committing 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.520 to And again this is sort of politics. One oh one. Yeah, 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:44.560 I answer the question that you want to answer, not 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:46.560 the questions that's actually been asked. So it's a bit 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:50.360 like the very famous example in New South Wales was 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:51.680 when there was a bit of a law and order 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:56.159 auction and the coalition was demanding minimum sentences of twenty 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.760 five years for murder, and the state government under bobcast It. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:02.360 You say, minimum sentence of twenty five years for murder, 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:06.320 we are proposing maximum sentences of thirty five years for murder. 0:07:06.400 --> 0:07:08.440 Because yeah, but we're talking about minimum centers is twenty 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:09.960 five years. Yeah, but we're saying, we're going to have 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.840 a maximum sentence of thirty five years. So you place 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.880 the So you're you're responding to a question he's not saying. Now, Islamophobia, 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:21.040 like homophobia or like you know, anti Semitism or whatever, 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:28.400 is not the irrational fear or hatred of religious texts, 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:29.440 which is. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:33.080 It's not of the text. You're falling for the same trap. Again, 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.200 it's not of the text. It's of the people, rights 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:38.400 of the So it's the mistreatment of Muslims based on 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.120 whatever you think, just as antisemitism is the mistreatment of 0:07:41.240 --> 0:07:43.640 Jews based on what you think of them. And so 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.880 he answers a completely different question to that, and I 0:07:46.920 --> 0:07:49.720 think you can. You can. And again, you know, there's 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.600 Muslims and there's actual Islamness, which is the extreme form 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.120 of Islam that results in terrorism and extremism and fundamentalism. 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.560 And again that is a sort of different thing. Again, 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:01.560 so you can tackle you can. You can still have 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:04.600 measures that apply to zonophobia, just as they would to 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:08.920 anti Semitism without touching which is vital, Without touching the 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:11.160 ability of people to be able to criticize the Koran 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.600 or indeed, you know, make jokes about it like they 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:14.000 do about it. 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:17.640 That's very clever politics. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.559 Then, from Kirstar, if it is as you described, except 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.280 this is not a time for clever politics. This has 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.560 made front page news right through the UK because people 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:32.079 have said he's clearly given an obtuse answer. He's given 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.960 a clever answer when what people want is clear direction 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:38.320 that we've got leadership who won't put up with the 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.840 sorts of things that you have described and the kind 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:42.360 of retrick that leads to that. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:43.959 But he's not given clear leadership. 0:08:43.960 --> 0:08:47.160 He's trying to play both sides of defence and in 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.840 doing that all he does is give you encouragement to extremists. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.320 That's right. Sorry, if you look at and I dare say, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.400 if you look at the election result we've just had 0:08:54.440 --> 0:08:56.560 in the US, and I dare say Labor would have that, 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.880 and it's got its own problems as well with the 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.440 budget have just passed. I think I think they would 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:07.400 be very sort of I suppose they would be have 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.319 one eye on that. They would have one eye on 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:11.719 their constituents. And again there are a lot of very 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:16.839 very Muslim heavy seats in the four million four million. 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.640 There are also I think five seats that were won 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:24.040 by Muslim voice or Muslim votes matter type candidates either. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.760 I don't think they ran as an actual party, but 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:28.880 people who are aligned to that movement, so they are 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.520 going to have half an eye on that as well. 0:09:31.559 --> 0:09:33.720 But I totally agree that it should be absolutely no 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.040 place for blasphemy laws. I mean, look at the number 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.760 of jokes that people have made throughout the centuries about 0:09:39.840 --> 0:09:43.600 characters in the Bible, including Jesus himself. Now the idea 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:47.720 that you would add a stroke effectively ban all of 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:50.839 those because imagine the law fare that Christian groups would 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:53.600 engage on. Imagine the mass class actions they would if 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:57.280 there was the same applied to it. And again, does 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.439 this means that you know that Kiostama or you Calaber 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.000 says Charlie, hebdo had it coming. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.760 The reason you can tell so many Christian jokes is 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.840 because Christians don't believe in shutting down any critique. 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.840 People know that they're not going to be beheaded in 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:16.079 the street if they criticize Christianity, Catholicism, et cetera, et cetera, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:19.520 and so on to the US now, and perhaps the 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:26.000 biggest confirmation that most Polsters are absolutely pathetic at their jobs. Today, 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:31.960 we learned from one of Harris's main campaign guys that 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:37.560 their internal polling actually never showed Harris out front of 0:10:37.600 --> 0:10:40.880 Trump in any way, shape or form. 0:10:41.120 --> 0:10:41.680 Check it out. 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:45.079 Hear it from him here he is talking to Pod 0:10:45.280 --> 0:10:47.480 Save America podcast. 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:49.680 You can hear it from the horse's mouth. 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.400 When we got in. My recollection is some of that snapback. 0:10:54.480 --> 0:10:56.520 But you know we were behind. I mean, I think 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.600 it surprised people because there was these public polls that 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.040 came out in late September early October shown us with 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.440 leads that we never saw. I think even after the 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.959 debate we might have gained what point five to one. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:10.400 It wasn't a race that moved a lot. You know, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:12.520 you've got to have bun decided to break your way 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:14.679 more than your opponents, and you've got to get a 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.160 little benefit from turnout, which we weren't able to do. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.880 Thank you, David Plof. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.480 So how was it that the public polls which he 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.480 made reference to there were so out of step with 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:30.440 their own internal polling, whereby they knew there was more 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.120 than one other guy on their campaign who joined him 0:11:33.160 --> 0:11:35.840 on that podcast, and they said, look, we knew we 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.760 actually knew it was a lost cause, which begs the question, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:43.320 had everyone known it was a lost cause, do you 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:48.480 think Harris would have had a billion dollars to incinerate? 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.320 I think not. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.440 Can you imagine being one of her donors right now 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:57.760 and learning that these guys always knew that it was 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.920 a jolly lost cause. Check out this great of just 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:06.000 how out of touch the average polster was with what 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:10.400 was actually going on behind the scenes in the Harris camp. 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:13.079 In the right hand column there you can see how 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:19.400 badly the end result deviated from what they projected was 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:23.560 going to happen. This is an absolute embarrassment. And we 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.400 had David Plouf there saying that. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.559 It didn't even change. 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:31.400 Much after she took after dementia Joe. Now we were told, oh, 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.400 Harris is at the wheel. Now she actually did really 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.120 well during the debate. Don't you think that was amazing? 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:41.040 She's doing incredibly. The Trump camp should be worried. She's 0:12:41.120 --> 0:12:44.640 actually skyrocketing and popularity, and we all said, oh, maybe 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.680 it's just a honeymoon period. You know, she's just taken 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.600 over from Joe. She didn't actually crash and burn in 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.719 the debate as we were expecting, and we just thought, oh, 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.080 you know, she's has got a bit of a pump 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.920 in the polls. Maybe this will be tighter than we thought. 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:04.440 Turns out it was all a nonsense. So much for 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.240 suppression polls being a conspiracy theory. Another great day to 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:09.520 be a conspiracy theory. 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.480 I mean, well, this is private internal party polling. They're 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.440 not going to make a public they never do, never have, 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:19.640 never will. Otherwise, what's the point They're not going to 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:22.720 do it before during the actual election campaign. No, of course, 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:24.880 that's the whole point of having your own internal polster. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:26.600 And then you've got the public poles. If you actually 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:30.240 looked at the public polls throughout the entire campaign, as 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.280 I was doing obsessively, they showed pretty much the same 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:36.199 thing he was talking here, mostly about the battleground states, 0:13:36.360 --> 0:13:38.760 which is also the ones that matter, that's right, And 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.520 you know there's about seven of those that really matters, 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.880 Pennsylvania being the most important, but you know, Wisconsin, Michigan, 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.680 and a handful of others, Georgia, Arizona, those sorts of 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:51.560 things if you actually looked at them, if you look 0:13:51.600 --> 0:13:53.880 at the average of polls, that the real clear politics. 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.600 Who are five thirty eight puts up all the time. 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:59.760 Trump was marginally ahead, a tiny bit ahead in most 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:03.120 of those most of the time. And that's why, that's why, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.880 and that's why you saw and that's why you no 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:10.040 Trumps mostly and again. And Paul Murray, you know, was 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.760 constantly drawing attention to this fact. And it was a 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.320 white knuckle ride. But Trump won by much much, much 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.120 more than those poles predicted. So those poles still got 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.360 it wrong. But this is what I found really strange. 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:23.600 It was that even when I think I mentioned it 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.080 on my podcast, the real story with Joe Hilda Round 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:30.480 download it now, which is the gas sliding. And this 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.760 is what makes it even worse, the obsession of say 0:14:33.760 --> 0:14:36.240 the MSNBC types or the CNN types, or we had 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.800 certain you know, Twitter raadi here, you know, saying I 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.560 predict it's going to be Carmela by this and that 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:45.600 we sat the ridiculous Iowa pole. But it was right 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.840 there in front of their faces. This is this wasn't 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.920 even like in twenty sixteen where everyone's saying, oh, it's 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.480 definitely Hillary Clinton, it's all over bar the shouting. The 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:58.840 poles were still showing it was incredibly close. The battleground 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:03.480 states edged towards Trump more than Harris the vast majority 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:07.400 of the time, and the bedding market had Trump pretty much, 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:09.480 you know, fifty five forty five. 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.480 So how do you for the whole time parody because 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:15.280 between the internal polling and all the other polling. 0:15:14.960 --> 0:15:16.960 Well, no, this is what I'm saying, though their internal 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.720 polling actually matches up pretty well with the public polling. 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:25.280 What neither matches up with is the result, and neither 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.480 matches up with the commentary of. 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:27.640 People who thought it was sad. 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:31.240 He said, the public polls had us ahead, and we 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:33.880 never saw that in our internal poll didn't you. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.520 He said that we were always behind the battleground. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:40.400 Rod about post debate famous right. 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.880 And that that polster has actually resigned. That showed up 0:15:44.920 --> 0:15:47.280 something like a ten to fifteen point turnaround. It was 0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:51.080 absolutely bonkers, right, So that was some weird, crazy anomally 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.040 and that should have just been put on the scrap 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.520 heap and just burned alive, because that was clearly just 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:58.240 a crazy, crazy outlier. And yeah, maybe the pub and 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.920 the public poles I think were probably a bit more 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:03.960 favorable to Carmla because I think a lot of Trump 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:07.720 voters were gaming the polls and just not answering. And 0:16:07.720 --> 0:16:10.120 there was some anecdotal evidence after that. Say here a poster, 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:11.760 I say, no, f you, I'm not talking to you, 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:13.520 don't trust you. You're part of the system. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:17.920 But they don't explain that people are watching these polls 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:20.400 unfold on MSNBCC and. 0:16:21.360 --> 0:16:24.240 What I'm saying, even those false hope, but even those 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:27.360 but even the polls, if you actually look at them, 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.520 weren't giving them pulse. You had people talking about them, 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:32.760 talking about Karmala mentor. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.560 Internal polling clearly disagree with you, Joe. 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:43.000 So no privately knew they that to stay privately knew 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:45.760 that things were not going as well as all Karmala 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:48.160 Harris's cheerleaders were saying they were going. That is exactly 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.240 what I'm trying to tell you that you had people 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:55.120 who were so blinded, it was so completely dissociated from 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.920 the possibility that Donald Trump could actually win, that they 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:02.160 were talking about Karmala Harris having this rollicking campaign, having 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.600 all this Famouskama momentum and being ahead and going to win, 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.960 when even the public polls that were published were saying 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.600 in most cases the opposite of that. That is how 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.359 deluded they were so again, it wasn't like Hillary Clinton 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:16.960 in twenty sixteen, where they were following what the Poles 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.240 were actually telling them. Well, poles never pointed to They 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.520 didn't point to a Trump landslide, but they sure as 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.080 hell never pointed to a Harris landslide. It was always 0:17:25.160 --> 0:17:27.920 at most a white no you. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:31.240 Mentioned disassociation from reality, which is a perfect way to 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.480 describe Kamala Harris. 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:35.120 She's still talking to. 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:38.159 Americans saying, don't lose your power, even though she of 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:39.560 course has lost hers. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:41.800 He is a recent video she released and a look 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:42.040 at this. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:47.159 I just have to remind you, don't you ever let 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:51.119 anybody take your power from you. You have the same 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:55.919 power that you did before November fifth, and you have 0:17:56.040 --> 0:18:00.840 the same purpose that you did, and you have the 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:07.679 same ability to engage and inspire. So don't ever let 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:10.600 anybody or any circumstance take your power from you. 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:14.680 Now, she's still speaking in word sounds, but to help 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:18.240 us understand what's really going on in that video, someone's 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.480 just added a few little parts to make it a 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:22.240 bit more obvious what's actually happening. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:27.159 Would you ever let anybody take your power from you? 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:31.480 You have the same power that you did before November fifth, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.480 and you have the same purpose that you did. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.440 You know, when your friends are drinking, you typically take 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:45.320 away their keys. Maybe take away their camera, Liz, that would. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:45.840 Be very kind. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:48.840 The funniest part of all of this the video goes 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:52.200 for almost ten minutes, her full address to the nation, 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.919 first we've heard of her since the failed election bid, 0:18:56.680 --> 0:19:00.560 and the full length is so much more painful to watch. 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:02.720 I do not recommend it. 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.960 Back to Australia now, where medical cannabis is taking the 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:08.560 nation by storm. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.240 Get this, we are expected to. 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:15.400 Spend a billion dollars on medical cannabis this year as 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.119 use of the drug sky rocket. 0:19:18.320 --> 0:19:19.600 That's just Kamala Harris's use. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:23.960 I was gonna say, maybe we shouldn't have put alcohol 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:25.320 in the AI version of that. 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.440 Someone could have just easily put a bong in there instead. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.840 But this spending correlates with usage, which jumped from just 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.280 three point nine percent of survey respondents in a twenty 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.800 nineteen survey to almost thirty percent admitting they. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.080 Use prescription marijuana. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:49.040 Now, it's true, this is a wonder plant for people 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:54.760 with a plethora of physical and mental issues. Anyone who 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:56.919 knows much about medical marijuana knows that. 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:58.880 Yeah, it's it's referred to as. 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.080 The wonder drug, although so I don't really call it 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.200 a drug because it ain't appeal. It is a plant, 0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:09.640 thanks God. And so people are getting I'm not surprised 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:14.120 by this at all. People are getting incredible results from 0:20:14.119 --> 0:20:16.879 it that they have not been able to see from 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.440 drugs from Big Farmer. 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.080 And it's interesting because this is. 0:20:21.080 --> 0:20:25.120 At a time as well where legalized cannabis type parties 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.520 have got quite a foothold in nearly every state parliament now, 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.800 so it's an interesting. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.119 Time and that they're using the popularity of medicinal cannabis 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:39.000 to make the case that cannabis should be legalized recreationally, 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:43.800 and that as medicinal cannabis is used so to the 0:20:43.920 --> 0:20:47.160 acceptance of it in the general community is becoming more 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.320 important common This is not being lost on the green 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:50.480 or the cannabis part. 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.920 Ironically, early their use of medicinal cannabis, for the most part, 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:55.840 is meant to be in such a way that it 0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:58.160 doesn't actually produce a high. You don't actually go high 0:20:58.160 --> 0:20:59.960 for it, to which I think most people would say, 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.199 what's the full point? But yes, no, that is exactly 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:07.360 what's happening, and it is and it is. It's basically 0:21:07.400 --> 0:21:10.600 just one party, which is the Legalized Cannabis Party, which 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.080 has done deals or is about to do deals. It 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:16.919