1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Oh, Hello, Happy New Year. Thank you for joining us 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: on the body and soul podcast called Healthy Ish. I 3 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: am your host of Felicity Harley. To celebrate well all 4 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: things New year summer, we are dropping our top Healthyish 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: episodes from last year. Now, listeners, this is the last 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: week we are doing this, so I hope you enjoy 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: this chat. This one was with Bonnie Hancock. She's a 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: former world champion iron woman who had a dream of 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: becoming the youngest and fastest person to circumnavigate Australia on 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: a ski paddle well two hundred and fifty four days, 11 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: twelve seven hundred kilometers, sea sickness and many other things. Later, 12 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Bonnie joined us to share more stories of her adventures, 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: listening to extra Healthyish as well, where she talks about 14 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: the most terrifying ordeal of her adventure. You can search 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: for Extra Healthy wherever you get your podcasts. Last time 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: you were here, you were about to paddle, and now 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: you've done it. 18 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: Oh I was I remember speaking to you in twenty 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 2: twenty one, a couple of months before I set off 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 2: on my little ocean ski to paddle around Australia. 21 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: I am back on dry land. 22 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: I can move my fingers again, I can move my 23 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: back the boulging. 24 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 3: This sagone, so we're good. 25 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: And can I just point out it wasn't a little paddle. 26 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: He's just said little paddle. It was a mega paddle. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: Just give us a quick rundown of the amazing feat 28 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: that you achieved. 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 3: Thank you. 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 2: It certainly wasn't little, and it didn't feel like that 31 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: by the end. But yeah, December twenty twenty one, I 32 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: set off from basically my backyard on the Gold Coast 33 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: at Mermaid Beach and I did a big clockwise loop 34 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: around Australia. So it was twelve hundred seven twelve thousand, 35 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: seven hundred kilometers I should say. I managed to break 36 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 2: the world record by two and a half months, so 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 2: I had to get back in less than ten and 38 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: a half months to break that record. So I became 39 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: the fastest person male or female to puddle around Australia 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 2: and also the youngest, so was absolutely thrilled. 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: Not just one your few? Was it three? I read 42 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: three records? Or just two? What was the third one? 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: Officially it was two, so definitely the fast youngest, which 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: is an interesting little fact. Guinness World Records don't officially 45 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: acknowledge the youngest anymore, because apparently there were so many 46 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: children doing all sorts of crazy things to get records, 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 2: they've now taken away the youngest to do so. But 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: I also broke the record for the furthest distance puddled 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: in twenty four hours five females, so I meant puddled 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five kilometers in twenty four painful hours. 51 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,839 Speaker 2: So yeah, picked up like one too well done. 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: What was the highlight of the whole trip, I. 53 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: Think sort of probably two aspecs is Mother Nature and 54 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 2: experiencing the beauties and the I mean the terrifying beauty 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: too of mother nature. Being one hundred kilometers out to 56 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: sea and being told by your skipper that there's a 57 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: storm coming and that you need to paddle as fast 58 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 2: as you can so that you can get to safety. 59 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: There. 60 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 2: There's something terrifying about that, but also so empowering when 61 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,399 Speaker 2: you step up to that challenge and get it done, 62 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: and you know you a couple of times I broke 63 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 2: that twenty four hour record to basically get to safety, 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: but also the beautiful Australian wildlife and being surrounded by 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: dolphins in the middle of the ocean, having seals play 66 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: beside me, you know, hump back wales back down the 67 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: east coast of Queensland. I think Mother Nature and out 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: our fascinating wildlife here in Australia, which is just like 69 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 2: nowhere else in the world. 70 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: Did you have a favorite spot around Australia that you 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: paddled through or passed? 72 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and lucky that one's quite an easy one. Something 73 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: unexpected is Ningaloo Reef in Western Australia, so right at 74 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: the top of Western Australia, white sand, turquoise waters. I 75 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 2: remember seeing twenty five turtles in one day of paddling, 76 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: you know, and in that part of the country, I 77 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: was quite close to shore, so I was actually making 78 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: my way up the coast with a jet ski as opposed. 79 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: To when I had a catamaran. 80 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 2: In most of the sections of Australia, I was again 81 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 2: up to five hundred kilometers out to see, mainly one 82 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 2: hundred kilometers out. So to being close to shore and 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: appreciate that beautiful part of the world was incredible. 84 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: Now, aside from the bid, you obviously put yourself in 85 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: some very close call life threatening situations, encountering sharks, swells, 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: high as buildings, sharp rocks and cliff faces near runnings 87 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: with my support boat. I'm ready this from your book, 88 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: by the way, and sea sickness so severe it had 89 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: left me double over for most of the day, unable 90 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: to stop the vomiting. What was the worst of this? This, 91 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: this all sounds awful. 92 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, I'm so excited to share all of. 93 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 3: This in the book, which is out at the end 94 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: of January. 95 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: I you know, there are moments where I people often 96 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 2: asked were their moments you wanted to quit almost every 97 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: day for the last two months because I was pushing 98 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 2: back into headwinds around twenty knots, so that's like a 99 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 2: big fan being, you know, blown in front of your 100 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: face and you're trying to force your body through that. 101 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 2: I had a great white shark encounter in Western Australia. 102 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: I had three crocodiles come near me and the kimberle 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: at the top of the country, and that was nighttime 104 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: when my support crew spotted them with torches out to 105 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: the side of the boat. So there was terrifying, terrifying encounters. 106 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: And you know when the Great Australian Bye, I chose 107 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: to cut straight across as opposed to hugging the coastline. 108 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: I saved a thousand kilometers by doing that. But those 109 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: swells were five to six meters out there. 110 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 3: They were huge. 111 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: My catamaran will drop out of sight and when you're 112 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 2: out there, you can't see land. You're you know, you're 113 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: way offshore, so that catamaran is a lifeline. 114 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: It was terrifying in parts. 115 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: How did you get through that? What's the mindset when 116 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: you look down and say, see crocodiles or a shark, 117 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: or you're looking up and seeing these ridiculously high waves, 118 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: tall waves totally. 119 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: Well. 120 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 2: The funny thing was the story when with the Great 121 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: White Shark. I actually had Taylor Swift playing in my headphone, 122 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: so I had no idea. Came up and my support 123 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 2: crew saw the big fin and it dive underneath, and 124 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: I'm bopping away to Taylor's Swift and they're calling me 125 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 2: into the boat, and eventually I came into the boat 126 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: and they said get on board right now. That I 127 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: was explaining to someone the other day that the music 128 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: in your ears is so important because you choose that 129 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: backdrop to your suffering, so you know whether you've got 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: to get in the water with crocodiles and you turn 131 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: on the rap music to get you going. It's sort 132 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: of the same thing like when we take on a 133 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: hard session here, except you're in life threatening situations. And 134 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: we did so much research with marine biologists and meteorologists 135 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 2: about the lines to take. We stayed a long way 136 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: offshore in the Northern Territory to try and avoid the 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: populated areas with crocodiles, so there was eighteen months of 138 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: research involved. I was paddling as fast as I possibly 139 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: could to keep my speed up and try and avoid 140 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: the crocodiles. 141 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of research. 142 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, it's still a 143 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 2: calculated risk and I would rely on my team and 144 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: often I would tell them, don't talk about paddling when 145 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: I come on board. Let's do childhood stories, jokes and riddles, 146 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: and let's just keep it lighthearted because it was so 147 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: intense in the water. Yeah. 148 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: Good advice. Now for anyone listening who's thinking I want 149 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: to attempt something big, Okay, not a paddle around Australia. 150 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking like an ocean swim or a five k 151 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: run or I mean you've got this, you know in 152 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: your book there's a line that says, I wonder if 153 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I could do that. I mean, you thought that to 154 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: yourself way before you actually pad around Australia. What's your 155 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: advice for anyone wanting to attempt their own amazing feat? 156 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: Absolutely? 157 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: And I love speaking to audiences and in writing this book, 158 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: it's targeted at everyone. It's targeted at people who haven't 159 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 2: necessarily been in the ocean their whole life or even 160 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 2: ever seen this key. Let alone picked one up. Start small. 161 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: You don't have to. Let's take the twenty four hour record. 162 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: I did two hundred and thirty five kilometers. You don't 163 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 2: look at that whole day and go, I'm going to 164 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: paddle two hundred and thirty five. 165 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 3: You work through each kilometer at the time. And it's 166 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: the same with a goal. 167 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: If someone wants to run five columns as they go, 168 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 2: you don't set out and run that five kilometers straight up. 169 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: You might do one kilometer of running, one kilometer of walking, 170 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: and slowly build up to that five kilometers. When I 171 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: started this paddle, I don't think I was equip to 172 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: take on the Great Australian Bye and cut five hundred 173 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: kilometers out. But two months in of building resilience physically 174 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: and mentally. I was able to do that which no 175 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 2: one's done before, and I think that's it. We place 176 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: limitations on ourselves. We think that they're there, and we 177 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 2: think they exist, and once we break them, it's just 178 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: sort of like, why did I ever think I couldn't 179 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 2: do that? 180 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: And I know with this. 181 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: Paddle, my biggest fear was the regret of not having 182 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 2: done it. And I thought, even if I set out 183 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 2: and fail and don't make it, I'd have known where. 184 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: I've gotten to. I'd rather do that than not try. 185 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: So don't be afraid of failure because we often think 186 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: people are judging us, but people are too distracted with 187 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: what's going on there life often. 188 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: Oh Bonnie, you're an inspiration. Thank you for coming back 189 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: on Healthy Ish. Thanks for listening to this interview as 190 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: part of our summer series. Also, just a heads up 191 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: if you do listen to our sister podcast Extra healthy Ish. 192 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: As of next week, we will only be publishing this 193 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: podcast healthy Ish, but in a longer format and on 194 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: Mondays and Wednesdays only. If you have any feedback, we'd 195 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: love to hear from you. You can DM me at Felicity 196 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: Harley of course, Body and Soul is across social media 197 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: as well. Catch us at bodyansoul dot com dot au 198 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: and until tomorrow, enjoy the summer and stay healthy ish