1 00:00:05,921 --> 00:00:07,801 Speaker 1: Approject production. 2 00:00:12,441 --> 00:00:16,241 Speaker 2: And then I just leave and my way from her 3 00:00:16,361 --> 00:00:19,681 Speaker 2: place to home, I take a bus and I should 4 00:00:19,761 --> 00:00:23,081 Speaker 2: to go to Bondi junction and take train. So I said, okay, 5 00:00:23,601 --> 00:00:26,961 Speaker 2: it's a good idea. Go to Bondai Junction, shopping by 6 00:00:27,001 --> 00:00:31,041 Speaker 2: a volleyball and then go home so I can start 7 00:00:31,321 --> 00:00:35,961 Speaker 2: practicing at least at home and looking for some different 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,961 Speaker 2: place with different like. I don't know focus because my 9 00:00:40,081 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 2: focus is not training to competition. I just want to 10 00:00:43,801 --> 00:00:46,641 Speaker 2: have fun and meet people. No competitions. I don't need 11 00:00:46,641 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 2: any want to push me and saying you are slow, 12 00:00:49,881 --> 00:00:53,601 Speaker 2: you're not doing this well? Yes, I know, thank you. 13 00:00:54,441 --> 00:01:01,761 Speaker 2: I know. That's why I'm here. So that's what's the way. 14 00:01:01,921 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 2: Have I end on the shopping center? 15 00:01:05,041 --> 00:01:06,401 Speaker 1: And did you realize something was wrong? 16 00:01:07,241 --> 00:01:07,281 Speaker 2: You? 17 00:01:07,521 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Did you not? When you went to that shopping center? 18 00:01:09,601 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: Did you know anything was wrong? Could you send any 19 00:01:11,481 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: could you see anything? Or did you just You're in 20 00:01:13,601 --> 00:01:14,081 Speaker 1: your own world. 21 00:01:14,481 --> 00:01:20,121 Speaker 2: That's the problem with someone like me. I'm just disconnect 22 00:01:20,401 --> 00:01:23,761 Speaker 2: of my body. Yes, I not tie. Some people on 23 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:28,121 Speaker 2: the right side and I say, maybe some kind of promotion, 24 00:01:28,321 --> 00:01:30,761 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't care. When there are so 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,121 Speaker 2: many people in one side. I just remember when I 26 00:01:35,161 --> 00:01:37,801 Speaker 2: go out of the bus, I crossed the street. I 27 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,161 Speaker 2: drown right and I said, near the Lego store. So 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:45,441 Speaker 2: many people. I said, oh, something's going home there. I 29 00:01:45,521 --> 00:01:48,681 Speaker 2: don't want to be involved in any kind of problems. 30 00:01:48,841 --> 00:01:51,681 Speaker 2: I don't care. I just want to have my volleyball, 31 00:01:52,041 --> 00:01:55,481 Speaker 2: go home and drink my beers. So I crossed the 32 00:01:55,521 --> 00:01:58,041 Speaker 2: street to the left side, and I come into the 33 00:01:58,081 --> 00:02:01,401 Speaker 2: shopping center listening to music. 34 00:02:01,121 --> 00:02:04,921 Speaker 1: On my own headphones on yes, and I. 35 00:02:05,241 --> 00:02:10,321 Speaker 2: Never listened now like in high, always low. And because 36 00:02:10,321 --> 00:02:13,041 Speaker 2: I was waiting to talk with my friend, she said 37 00:02:13,161 --> 00:02:15,361 Speaker 2: maybe ten to fifteen minutes, you can call me blah 38 00:02:15,361 --> 00:02:18,761 Speaker 2: blah blah. So I just come in. I went to 39 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: the scream to find where I can buy a volleyball. 40 00:02:24,041 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: It was maybe two three minutes, no more than that. 41 00:02:26,881 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: I just write why I need. I saw the instruction 42 00:02:31,201 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 2: go to left, take the escalators, and I don't remember, 43 00:02:36,361 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: and I said okay. And when I walked to left, 44 00:02:39,721 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: I did maybe three steps I don't know how many 45 00:02:43,841 --> 00:02:47,321 Speaker 2: steps by I feeling like three. And then I felt 46 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:53,601 Speaker 2: like the guy who were walking to my side front 47 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,281 Speaker 2: on the left. I remember that I looked at him 48 00:02:58,481 --> 00:03:01,681 Speaker 2: and all his body language was saying he's going out 49 00:03:01,921 --> 00:03:06,161 Speaker 2: through the same door I come in. I remember that. 50 00:03:06,881 --> 00:03:11,201 Speaker 2: And then he was on his face was looking so weird. 51 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,481 Speaker 2: I said, something is going on on his mind? He 52 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,761 Speaker 2: looked he just glimpsed, and then at some point his 53 00:03:20,001 --> 00:03:24,921 Speaker 2: expression changed, and it changes in one second, and I 54 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,561 Speaker 2: remember feeling like someone crushed on my body, and I 55 00:03:28,641 --> 00:03:34,361 Speaker 2: realized he was the person who crushing my body. And 56 00:03:34,441 --> 00:03:37,521 Speaker 2: in seconds, I just thought, so aggracive man, what's wrong 57 00:03:37,561 --> 00:03:42,921 Speaker 2: with him? Because just like I don't know, I remember 58 00:03:43,001 --> 00:03:46,561 Speaker 2: everything slowly, but it's happening in seconds. He crushed on 59 00:03:46,601 --> 00:03:48,761 Speaker 2: my body. And then I feel like burning on my 60 00:03:48,841 --> 00:03:49,321 Speaker 2: left side. 61 00:03:49,401 --> 00:03:51,281 Speaker 1: So you never felt that knife going? 62 00:03:51,841 --> 00:03:54,961 Speaker 2: No, never, And then I said, like my first question 63 00:03:55,081 --> 00:03:57,401 Speaker 2: was what he did to my body? And then I said, leah, 64 00:03:57,481 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: this is not something good. And then I just remember 65 00:04:04,121 --> 00:04:06,441 Speaker 2: just a guy who appear in front of me, who 66 00:04:06,521 --> 00:04:08,881 Speaker 2: take on my shoulders, who shacked me just a bit. 67 00:04:09,001 --> 00:04:12,881 Speaker 2: He said, you have been stopped. Do you understand what 68 00:04:12,921 --> 00:04:15,081 Speaker 2: I'm telling you? And say yes? 69 00:04:16,121 --> 00:04:20,521 Speaker 1: And do you remember dropping? No, don't remember, so you 70 00:04:20,561 --> 00:04:23,241 Speaker 1: don't remember anything after you knew you've been stopped. 71 00:04:23,561 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: I just remember him running away. Yeah, but that memories 72 00:04:29,161 --> 00:04:35,441 Speaker 2: come back after the operation in the hospital. I remember 73 00:04:35,481 --> 00:04:39,481 Speaker 2: after the operation when the policies asked me some questions, 74 00:04:40,041 --> 00:04:43,961 Speaker 2: and I remember he run away. And also I remember 75 00:04:44,201 --> 00:04:45,721 Speaker 2: that he said me, I catch you. 76 00:04:46,561 --> 00:04:47,281 Speaker 1: Is that what he said? 77 00:04:47,521 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 2: Yes? Because in my mind that moment is black. Yeah, 78 00:04:52,921 --> 00:04:55,041 Speaker 2: it just black. It just like I closed my eyes, 79 00:04:55,081 --> 00:04:55,841 Speaker 2: I opened them. 80 00:04:56,001 --> 00:04:57,721 Speaker 1: I was there a lot of screaming. Could you hear 81 00:04:58,121 --> 00:05:00,361 Speaker 1: people screaming? Or you couldn't hear anything? You were just 82 00:05:00,601 --> 00:05:01,641 Speaker 1: blank to everything. 83 00:05:02,281 --> 00:05:04,401 Speaker 2: As I told you, I'm disconnect from these words. 84 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,841 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just couldn't hear nothing. 85 00:05:05,961 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: You just no way. Because Whine, the man who helped me, 86 00:05:11,681 --> 00:05:14,801 Speaker 2: he said that he had been screaming and there are 87 00:05:14,841 --> 00:05:18,121 Speaker 2: people who running her around. I never not tice anything 88 00:05:18,161 --> 00:05:21,561 Speaker 2: of that. What was the pain in what moment? Well, 89 00:05:22,161 --> 00:05:23,561 Speaker 2: at the beginning or the end? 90 00:05:23,761 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: No, let's go at the beginning, because you didn't know 91 00:05:26,801 --> 00:05:29,721 Speaker 1: you'd been stabbed, okay, But when when you did figure 92 00:05:29,721 --> 00:05:33,681 Speaker 1: out you'd been stabbed and you're on the floor, what 93 00:05:33,761 --> 00:05:36,761 Speaker 1: was the pain? Were you panicking? Were you panicking? Were 94 00:05:36,761 --> 00:05:37,601 Speaker 1: you thinking this is it? 95 00:05:38,041 --> 00:05:38,441 Speaker 2: No way? 96 00:05:39,281 --> 00:05:40,161 Speaker 1: You didn't think this is it? 97 00:05:40,241 --> 00:05:44,841 Speaker 2: No I never panicked, Okay, I'm not that kind of person. 98 00:05:45,121 --> 00:05:46,641 Speaker 2: Did you so? 99 00:05:47,001 --> 00:05:48,721 Speaker 1: Did you think this was it? That you this was 100 00:05:48,761 --> 00:05:49,561 Speaker 1: the end? Look? 101 00:05:49,601 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: I didn't remember that, but after talking with mine he said, 102 00:05:54,081 --> 00:05:56,681 Speaker 2: I remember you just take off your air pots. You 103 00:05:56,761 --> 00:05:58,441 Speaker 2: put them inside of your leg. 104 00:05:58,601 --> 00:06:00,241 Speaker 1: You're talking about. 105 00:06:00,241 --> 00:06:03,041 Speaker 2: Because when he started too, you've been stabbed and you 106 00:06:03,201 --> 00:06:07,281 Speaker 2: you're still listening music. I take them off. I put 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,361 Speaker 2: them in my box. Yes, I'm serious. You can ask 108 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,241 Speaker 2: him if you want. 109 00:06:11,721 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: You were stabbed that viciously and you took your I 110 00:06:15,281 --> 00:06:20,561 Speaker 1: put out calmly, yes, and put them in they container 111 00:06:20,641 --> 00:06:21,241 Speaker 1: that they go in. 112 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,281 Speaker 2: Yes, and then the container on my back. I closed 113 00:06:25,281 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: my back. I look at him and say, yes, I 114 00:06:27,601 --> 00:06:32,641 Speaker 2: understand what you're saying. Yes, I can walk. Tell me 115 00:06:32,681 --> 00:06:39,001 Speaker 2: what to do. I never feel nervous, never, But. 116 00:06:38,961 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: You've just been stopped by what was it? A thirty 117 00:06:40,921 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: inch thirty inch blade? How long you reckon? You're on 118 00:06:43,761 --> 00:06:44,641 Speaker 1: the floor for I. 119 00:06:44,641 --> 00:06:48,361 Speaker 2: Thought it was at least two three hours, but it 120 00:06:48,521 --> 00:06:51,681 Speaker 2: was twenty five minutes. But I feel it like a 121 00:06:51,681 --> 00:06:53,681 Speaker 2: long time, long time. 122 00:06:53,761 --> 00:06:55,921 Speaker 1: Did you did you think it was a serious cut? 123 00:06:56,201 --> 00:06:59,441 Speaker 2: I knew it, sounds of it, I knew it. I'm 124 00:06:59,521 --> 00:07:00,001 Speaker 2: on yours. 125 00:07:00,081 --> 00:07:02,601 Speaker 1: I knew it, so you knew it was. 126 00:07:03,281 --> 00:07:06,041 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm on yours. Oh, I knew it. I can 127 00:07:06,121 --> 00:07:09,961 Speaker 2: breathe deep. So he didn't cut any of my pullmans. 128 00:07:10,721 --> 00:07:14,201 Speaker 2: But he got from left to right. I'm still breathing 129 00:07:14,441 --> 00:07:18,201 Speaker 2: and my heart is still working, so it could be 130 00:07:18,441 --> 00:07:22,161 Speaker 2: near to my heart and near the artery. Who is 131 00:07:22,201 --> 00:07:25,801 Speaker 2: going like from I have already imagined in my brain. 132 00:07:25,761 --> 00:07:28,401 Speaker 1: How much blood we surely you listen A lot of 133 00:07:28,401 --> 00:07:31,081 Speaker 1: blood in the medical. 134 00:07:33,041 --> 00:07:37,041 Speaker 2: Records is set seven point five liters. 135 00:07:36,801 --> 00:07:41,961 Speaker 1: Seven point five lists. And you're still calm as anything. Yes, okay, 136 00:07:42,001 --> 00:07:46,241 Speaker 1: the guy is trying to keep you conscious yet and here. 137 00:07:46,081 --> 00:07:49,721 Speaker 2: He asked if I can walk? I said yes. He said, 138 00:07:50,241 --> 00:07:52,321 Speaker 2: I will put you in a safe place. So I 139 00:07:52,401 --> 00:07:54,841 Speaker 2: walked from the place where I have been stopped to 140 00:07:55,081 --> 00:07:55,681 Speaker 2: the store. 141 00:07:56,001 --> 00:07:58,881 Speaker 1: How is that, I don't know. He got you up 142 00:07:58,921 --> 00:08:00,201 Speaker 1: with a stab to walk. 143 00:08:00,881 --> 00:08:03,961 Speaker 2: I walked, yeah, and you walked because I said that. 144 00:08:04,121 --> 00:08:05,841 Speaker 2: I just put my my arm like this. 145 00:08:06,601 --> 00:08:07,921 Speaker 1: Was anyone trying to stop the bleeding. 146 00:08:09,041 --> 00:08:12,521 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I put my arm like this, and then 147 00:08:12,601 --> 00:08:16,041 Speaker 2: I pressed my wood and I said, yes, I can walk. 148 00:08:17,121 --> 00:08:21,601 Speaker 2: So he was like, you know, she's crazy, so he 149 00:08:22,321 --> 00:08:25,361 Speaker 2: stepped near me. He takes on my shoulders to help 150 00:08:25,401 --> 00:08:30,041 Speaker 2: me walk, and we went inside of one store. There 151 00:08:30,041 --> 00:08:33,201 Speaker 2: were women's and some men's. I don't remember how many 152 00:08:33,241 --> 00:08:38,321 Speaker 2: of them. They locked the door. They put me on 153 00:08:38,481 --> 00:08:41,561 Speaker 2: the floor, and one of the ones I remember, she 154 00:08:41,641 --> 00:08:44,521 Speaker 2: started to make a pressure on my wood. Yeah, I 155 00:08:44,561 --> 00:08:47,601 Speaker 2: remember that. And they remember, like lying on the floor. 156 00:08:48,441 --> 00:08:51,681 Speaker 2: The guy when he asked me if I have someone 157 00:08:51,761 --> 00:08:54,961 Speaker 2: to call, and I call one friend where I'm leaving 158 00:08:55,081 --> 00:08:58,801 Speaker 2: right now, and all this stuff stuff, like all of 159 00:08:58,841 --> 00:09:01,441 Speaker 2: them start to be on the phone trying to get 160 00:09:01,481 --> 00:09:05,801 Speaker 2: some help. And in that moment, after I lie on 161 00:09:05,841 --> 00:09:09,081 Speaker 2: the floor, in that moment, I start to feel pain. 162 00:09:09,681 --> 00:09:15,201 Speaker 2: And each second, each minute, it was growing. Actually because 163 00:09:15,601 --> 00:09:19,481 Speaker 2: a lot of I start to was a lot of blood. Yeah, 164 00:09:19,761 --> 00:09:26,081 Speaker 2: because he could an or they so much liver, the 165 00:09:26,361 --> 00:09:27,841 Speaker 2: damage was so severe. 166 00:09:28,201 --> 00:09:30,721 Speaker 1: Did anyone know what was going on? Just a panic. 167 00:09:31,281 --> 00:09:34,321 Speaker 2: All of the people who were insight in the store 168 00:09:34,361 --> 00:09:38,281 Speaker 2: with me, No once knew what was going on. Yeah, yeah, 169 00:09:38,841 --> 00:09:42,561 Speaker 2: I just remember lying on the floor. My pain started 170 00:09:42,641 --> 00:09:46,841 Speaker 2: to grow and I focus on the pain, how to 171 00:09:46,921 --> 00:09:53,001 Speaker 2: manage the pain. And there were me like women's the 172 00:09:53,081 --> 00:09:58,161 Speaker 2: right side, one of them taking my hand and trying 173 00:09:58,201 --> 00:10:01,281 Speaker 2: to like she was trying to calm me down, but 174 00:10:01,361 --> 00:10:04,761 Speaker 2: she was more stressful and crying and in the worst situation, 175 00:10:05,201 --> 00:10:10,281 Speaker 2: me emotionally saying, then I had another woman in front 176 00:10:10,321 --> 00:10:13,281 Speaker 2: of me pressing on my would then I remember why, 177 00:10:13,761 --> 00:10:18,961 Speaker 2: like talking on the phone, one woman who was trying 178 00:10:19,001 --> 00:10:23,081 Speaker 2: some clothes and she just opened the courteen. She saw everything, 179 00:10:23,241 --> 00:10:26,041 Speaker 2: and why I like, just stay there. She sit there 180 00:10:26,121 --> 00:10:30,241 Speaker 2: near the mirror, and she was there all the time. 181 00:10:30,361 --> 00:10:34,361 Speaker 2: She never moved from her place, just so shocked. And 182 00:10:34,441 --> 00:10:37,001 Speaker 2: on tea side, I remember some people, but I don't 183 00:10:37,041 --> 00:10:41,841 Speaker 2: remember well. So I remember everyone on the phone calling 184 00:10:41,961 --> 00:10:48,081 Speaker 2: the police an ambulance, and I just remember when saying like, yes, 185 00:10:48,121 --> 00:10:51,721 Speaker 2: there are already policies in the place. We have police, 186 00:10:51,881 --> 00:10:57,921 Speaker 2: we have ambulance. They already near trying to get inside 187 00:10:58,001 --> 00:11:00,881 Speaker 2: in the shopping center, but we didn't have any answer, 188 00:11:01,561 --> 00:11:08,161 Speaker 2: still be waiting, and in some point we hear the gunshots. Yes, 189 00:11:08,241 --> 00:11:11,721 Speaker 2: and in that moment, some of the people inside of 190 00:11:11,801 --> 00:11:14,681 Speaker 2: the store, they just started to running around. It was 191 00:11:14,921 --> 00:11:22,001 Speaker 2: just yeah,