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Speaker 1: Apodjay production.

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Speaker 2: We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the

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Speaker 2: land on which we gather today and pay our respects

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Speaker 2: to their elders past and present. We extend that respect

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Speaker 2: to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara.

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Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level

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Speaker 3: up together. Let's go deep, let the emotions flow, and

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Speaker 3: find the lessons to grow and Glow.

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Speaker 1: Nothing is off the table with Grow and Glow, and

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Speaker 1: we're here to be your expander. Alrighty, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Growing Glow everybody.

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Speaker 3: We are so excited for today's guests.

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Speaker 1: I have never listened to a podcast about this. I

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Speaker 1: feel like there's nothing on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Like I tried searching because Ashley and I've been talking

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Speaker 3: about doing this and we were like, we want to

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Speaker 3: get a bit more information. Tried searching. I was like,

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Speaker 3: there's nothing out there to hear about people's experiences, what

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Speaker 1: There's only one I know that's actually even had this done,

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Speaker 1: and it's called a Yoni massage. So we have a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions. We're going to unpack it all. We've

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Speaker 1: got a beautiful guest on today to help us understand it. Also,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much for inviting me. It's really important

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Speaker 4: to get this information out there because it's a really

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Speaker 4: amazing experience.

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Speaker 1: We're just going to dive straight in, but before we do.

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Speaker 1: Every single Monday, when we do a new episode, we

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Speaker 1: ask our guests to share something that they're loving at

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Speaker 1: the moment. It could be a restaurant, it could be

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Speaker 1: a product, it could be an experience, anything that you're

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Speaker 1: wanting to share with the world.

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Speaker 4: Ye oh, my gosh, oh so many things. However, in

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Speaker 4: terms of a product, I've just found out about a

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Speaker 4: company called alf They're based in New Zealand and they're

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Speaker 4: all natural like makeup and beauty products, and they're serum.

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Speaker 4: There's serum that I'm using at the moment. Is absolutely amazing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know I'm allowed to say like brand names

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Speaker 4: and stuff. Yeah, but yeah, I'm not an affiliate. I

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Speaker 4: just went, oh, that looks really good and it's really incredible.

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Speaker 4: So that's one of my favorite things.

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Speaker 1: So, yeah, is it like a hydrating serum or something.

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Speaker 4: It's a serum oil, and it's almost like a primer

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Speaker 4: at the same time, so you put it on underneath

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Speaker 4: your makeup. Yeah, but it's all completely natural, there's no chemicals.

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Speaker 4: They've kind of blended science and nature and just made

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Speaker 4: this really high quality serum primer thing. Yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 1: First things first, what is a Yoni massage?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, we probably need to explain what

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Speaker 4: yoni is. So yoni is the Sanskrit word for the

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Speaker 4: entire female reproductive and sexual anatomy, so that includes the ovaries,

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Speaker 4: the fallopian tubes, the womb, the cervix, the vaginal canal,

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Speaker 4: and all the different parts of the vulva, so it's

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Speaker 4: miseducation and incorrec information about the female anatomy, which is

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Speaker 4: sad considering it's twenty twenty four. And then when it

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Speaker 4: comes to Yoni massage, there's the only massage and then

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Speaker 4: there's only mapping, and they're very, very different. Every practitioner

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Speaker 4: actually has a different focus and a different style. So

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Speaker 4: what I was trained in was Yoni mapping therapy, which

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Speaker 4: is an holistic pelvic wellness modality, so that's quite different.

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Speaker 4: Like I have a lot of clients coming to me

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Speaker 4: who are trying to reconnect with their body and their

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Speaker 4: yoni after birth, after boundary violations, or just to educate themselves.

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Speaker 4: So unfortunately, it's still an unregulated industry, so people can

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Speaker 4: not even do any training at all, and go on

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Speaker 4: offer yoni massage. I really encourage people to do your research,

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Speaker 4: do a lot of investigation, find out who your practitioner is,

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Speaker 4: highly trained and highly experienced, because it's such a vulnerable

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Speaker 4: and intimate experience that can have an amazing transformational positive

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Speaker 4: impact on the whole being. But when it's not that,

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Speaker 4: massage is a session that you should be a longer session.

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Speaker 4: It should include some talking and connecting and finding out

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Speaker 4: a full body massage which would also include an external

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Speaker 3: What's the difference between mapping and the massage.

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Speaker 4: Massage is like you would have a massage over the

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Speaker 4: Whereas a mapping, there's a a lot of communication and

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Speaker 4: education in a mapping, and what we do is we

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Speaker 4: how I'm touching, what do you feel? And what happens

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Speaker 4: is we create a map from the yoni and the pelvis,

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Speaker 4: the brain then has a tangible map of what's going

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Speaker 4: the mapping, rather than it being this mysterious zone that

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Speaker 4: it feels good sometimes and then it doesn't feel good

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Speaker 4: at other times, and like don't even know, you know,

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Speaker 4: doing all sorts of stuff with it. We actually the

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Speaker 3: I'm blown away, Yes, so much more in depth than

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Speaker 3: I kind of expected to be honest. That's really cool.

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Speaker 1: So do you have women that book in just for

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Speaker 1: a only massage for pleasure or just for mapping to

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Speaker 4: Of the above, all of the above. So there's still

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Speaker 4: a real lack of just basic anatomy education out there,

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Speaker 4: So a lot of women don't know their anatomy, let

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Speaker 4: alone their pleasure anatomy. For what I offer, and as

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Speaker 4: I said, all therapists have a different focus. So some

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Speaker 4: the pleasure element, whereas, because this is holistic, that is included,

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Speaker 4: pleasure in our bodies. So pleasure is definitely an element

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Speaker 1: That's really cool. I love that it's a whole experience,

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Speaker 1: the holistic approach because I assume a lot of women

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, one of the most common issues and health issues

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Speaker 4: pelvic pain and pelvic discomfort. And there's so many different

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Speaker 4: women have volvidinia, which is pain in the volver for

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Speaker 4: kinds of menstrual issues. So let alone pregnancy, birth, and

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Speaker 4: then the boundary violations, and then there's pleasure, So our

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Speaker 4: bodies are designed for pleasure. We have an amazing amount

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Speaker 4: of orogyena zones over the whole body, but the female

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Speaker 4: not just about better sex, it's about our intuition. You know.

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Speaker 4: our wombs. So it's so important for us to have

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Speaker 3: That is so amazing, so freaking so cool. So how

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Speaker 3: long does an actual session go for? So you said

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Speaker 4: My sessions are three hours.

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Speaker 4: So we start by talking about where they are at and

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Speaker 4: then there is a full body massage which includes the

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Speaker 4: breasts and the belly and the pelvis before I touch

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Speaker 4: the yoni, and then I ask permission before I touch

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Speaker 4: the yoni on the externally and internally. So many women

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Speaker 4: very very important. And in a massage, I don't talk

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Speaker 4: And everything is welcome. So many women feel very relaxed.

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Speaker 4: pain and discomfort, awkwardness. We just work with that. Everything's welcome,

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Speaker 4: and often things can shift and move and change very

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Speaker 1: So interesting, how so much can happen depending on where

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Speaker 4: people cry, yes, very very very few women actually orgasm.

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Speaker 4: Most people feel really connected and safe and expanded and blissful.

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Speaker 4: Women don't usually orgasm. I think I've had two people

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Speaker 4: and that's because it's not the focus. And this is

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Speaker 4: the thing about pleasure is that we often have this

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Speaker 4: and sexuality, you have this very narrow ideas like that

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Speaker 4: we're very goal orientated. It's like can we have all

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Speaker 4: of these different kinds of orgasms and can we squirt?

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Speaker 4: And there's a lot of pressure, whereas actually female pleasure

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Speaker 4: is extremely expansive and we need a lot longer to

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Speaker 4: get into this full state of high arousal. We need

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Speaker 4: a lot of foreplay, and we need trust, and we

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Speaker 4: need touch, and we need other kinds of emotional connection

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Speaker 4: and lots of different things for these channels of pleasure

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Speaker 4: and arousal to open up in us. And that's often

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Speaker 4: where a person will go, just to these expanded states

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Speaker 1: So beautiful, because I did have a girlfriend that yeah,

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Speaker 1: just felt like she was on a high, just so light,

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Speaker 1: so ground and so connected, so peaceful, so patient with

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Speaker 1: her daughter, Like it's like she was just literally on

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Speaker 1: a high. That was where she described it, and that's

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Speaker 1: just such a nice feeling to be able to access

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Speaker 1: That actually came up with my partner. I've heard about

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Speaker 4: And really it's not about me. I'm just a guide.

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Speaker 3: I've actually had a couple of healers telling me that

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Speaker 1: Damn, I wish I knew about that before. Kid, You're

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Speaker 1: so right. There just isn't enough education, because even with

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the next step.

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Speaker 4: And it's like no, no, no, no, no, no, back up,

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Speaker 4: And it's good to understand that our bodies work differently

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Speaker 4: And that's the other thing that everyone says once they've

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Speaker 4: Or they're empowered to say no, I don't want this. Yeah, well, hey,

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Speaker 4: those first few sexual experiences are really fumbly, we make

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Speaker 4: lots of mistakes. At least with more education and information

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Speaker 4: it won't be super damaging and wounding. And for adults,

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Speaker 4: knowing that our bodies are built for pleasure and that

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Speaker 4: we can access that pleasure, that should be a foundation

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Speaker 4: of health and well being. Just like going to the gym,

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Speaker 4: eating well, you know, getting enough sleep, we should also

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Speaker 4: be able to connect with the pleasure that's available in

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Speaker 4: our bodies in an unobjectified, unsexualized, but really normal, healthy way.

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Speaker 1: Do you mind me asking you how much a session is?

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Speaker 4: So a three hour session with me is four hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty five dollars because I want to make it

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Speaker 4: accessible for everyone.

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Speaker 1: I think when you think about it, you're getting the massage,

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Speaker 1: you're getting education, you're getting almost like like sounds like

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Speaker 1: a counseling session as well. Like it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things all combined in one. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's great val it and.

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Speaker 3: Most people only need to go once as well, So

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Speaker 3: it's not something like, you know, you have to go

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Speaker 3: back there, it's busier every month or whatever. It's like

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Speaker 3: if you haven't had much trauma, you only literally have

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Speaker 3: to go once and then you've got that beautiful concession investment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you break it down, it's the same a

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Speaker 4: normal massage that you go, you know, on your body.

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Speaker 1: So true, so true?

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Speaker 2: And where are you based?

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Speaker 3: For anyone who wants to come and see you, where

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Speaker 3: can they find you?

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Speaker 4: I live in Tasmania, but I do come up and

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Speaker 4: visit to see clients two or three times a year.

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Speaker 4: So my next visit to northern New South Wales is

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Speaker 4: in October, so late October I have availability for sessions.

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Speaker 3: Awesome. And how do people get in contact with you

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Speaker 3: if they want to book this? C in when you're up.

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Speaker 4: My Instagram account is the Erotic Alchemist and through my

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Speaker 4: website is Sacred Alchemy dot com dot au. So through

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Speaker 4: those channels that's how to get in touch with me,

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Speaker 4: ask questions and book in with me. I'm the traveling Yonimappa.

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Speaker 3: Amazing, I love it. You still come back.

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Speaker 4: I'll be there from the twenty fifth to the twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: Awesome how cool.

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Speaker 4: I think the big things for me to share was

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Speaker 4: that it's not a sexual service, it's a holistic pelvic

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Speaker 4: wellness modality. So it really does include and encompass the

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Speaker 4: full spectrum of the human being psychologically, emotionally, physically, and

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Speaker 4: sexually and spiritually. So I'm not a religious person, but

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Speaker 4: I am a spiritual person, and this experience really helps

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Speaker 4: to kind of for people to connect with themselves on

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Speaker 4: that deeper level. And it's not a new age woo

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Speaker 4: woo thing. It's just about feeling connected to yourself, to

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Speaker 4: your family, to your friends, to your community, to your environment.

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Speaker 4: And when we have more connected and empowered and integrated

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Speaker 4: people in our society, society just runs better and even

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Speaker 4: better when that is women who are operating from that place.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much of your time.

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Speaker 1: That's been so amazing, so informative way that you articulate everything,

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Speaker 1: it just normalizes it makes it seem not so scary

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Speaker 1: and actually like more exciting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I even think a lot of people think

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Speaker 3: that your orgasm, so to know that it's very unlikely

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Speaker 3: for that to happen might make people feel a little

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Speaker 3: bit different going into it as well.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of women who think that they can't

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Speaker 4: orgasm or they struggle to orgasm. Again, there's assumption that

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Speaker 4: penetration equals orgasm, and that is so not true. And

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Speaker 4: we really need to take this pressure off having to

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Speaker 4: orgasm and for orgasm to be this big mysterious thing

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Speaker 4: and really come back to just getting to experience pleasure

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Speaker 4: and from there then you know, we make those steps

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Speaker 4: and those moves towards more deeper arousal and more orgasmic experiences.

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Speaker 4: That's a good thing to educate people on too.

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Speaker 1: We thank you so much for joining us. I really

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. And we'll see you in October.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I hope so. Thank you for inviting me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. All our show notes below so

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Speaker 1: everyone can get in contact with you or ask you

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Speaker 1: any other question.

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Speaker 4: It's an incredible, beautiful experience. It's actually not scary once

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Speaker 4: you get there. It does give you that inner reference

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Speaker 4: point in your body to just normalize the healthy back

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Speaker 4: intivation of pleasure and just connection in your body. You know,

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Speaker 4: everyone knowing how it works.

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Speaker 1: Everyone wants connection. Yeah, weld you not want that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, so good to talk to you.

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Speaker 4: I'll talk to you more soon Bye, bye,